Bill Clinton Weighs in on His Wife Being Secretary of State

Simple solution: Hillary can finally get that divorce she’s wanted since the early 90′s!

Goodness Jake,
What’s all this antipathy for ‘international dealings’? I am no huge fan of the Clinton man (I don’t know him frankly, I was somewhat young when he was president), but it seems to me that the man needs to catch a break from all this scrutiny he is receiving. If anything, I would think all his international affairs (NPI) would make him a wonderful [free] spy for the US and his wife will be a much more informed SOS because of it. So please, stop acting like it is a deal breaker. He WAS president of the country for 8 years, its not like he would suddenly decide to do something that would compromise the interests of the nation. If anything, he should be the one worried about the effect of this on him; its not like countries would feel very comfortable at having a husband of an SOS privy to their inner dealings. But if they allow it, then more power to this country.

Stop making Bill Clinton such a “distraction.” He’s done a ton of good with his “dealings.” Please, let’s get the lowdown on where all of Obama’s campaign money came from. And why those high level finance people are being selected for high level advisory positions in Obama’s administration. Why are longtime members of the Chicago Way being transported to Washington, D.C.? And what about all those credit card donations from names like Mickey Mouse and Osama Bin Laden. We know that those contributions were phoney and need to be returned. How did Obama return money to Mickey Mouse et al? We need to know this. Obama raised a ton of money. Where did it all — all — come from?

How in the world is Barack going to name Hillary as his Secretary of State when he convinced us during the primary season that she represented too much of the status quo and we needed change? Isn’t this the same lady who wanted to “obliterate” Iran?
What about people like John Kerry and Bill Richardson who supported Barack when the Clintons were telling everyone that Barack’s career was the fruit of political affirmative action? What the hell is wrong with OBAMA!!!!!!!!!
I feel betrayed that he’s even considering her. Say what you want about W but he sure was loyal.

To concerned in Ohio. You must be one of those Republicans that can’t accept that your boy lost. It is time that this country awakened. Craig is an attorney-that is what is job is!
I’m from Ohio, a man, 64 years old, white-in the group that should have voted for McCain by all of the statistics. However, I also think I am smart-so that is my reason for voting for Obama.

How ironic that the same reason I thought would make BILL Clinton the perfect SoS could disqualify Hillary. We need someone who can get money, er investments back to the United States. Panhandling comes almost second nature to President Clinton.

Concerned in OH -
Could you at least restrict your vitriol to the subject at hand? What on earth does John Hinckley’s defense have to do with Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State?

Under 0bamanation, America has become some sort of cosmic joke.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Nov 17, 2008 10:42:34 AM
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What a negative attitude you have.

it’s absolutely brilliant. she can’t say no. the senate can’t say no. she’d be out of everyone’s hair for good. she’d be under joe cool’s direct orders. she could be fired at any moment. and she could cut emperor facebook in for a slice of the “dubai pie.” lieberman uber alles!

I thinnk Sen Clinton is a fantastic lady but I do not think a female can do the job with all the middle east problems add all the additional countrys that do not respect women. Right now we need the strongest State department we can get and I feel this is a slight reduction to that end.

Uhhh. A Citizen… the speaker of the house is supposed to be a member of the House of Representatives (congressperson). Hillary is a senator.
Moving to the house would be a demotion.

Hillary should stay in the Senate where she is and will be a big force in the party and in the country. Obama is offering the job to pander the Hillary followers and a “political” move to neutralize her and any opposition.

Obama is no dummy. He wouldnt have asked her if he didnt already do his homework. Obviously there isnt any meat on the bones of the Clinton foundation.
There is no law against any x prez getting donations for his foundation. The whole thing is stupid.

Bill needs to SHUT UP and GO AWAY!!! If he could keep himself AWAY from a camera Hilliary could have won by now! GO AWAY BILL!!! And let Hilliary run in ’12 by herself PLEEEASE!!!

It’s becoming obvious that the negatives cons will complain and accuse every step of the way without a Republican in the WH. Here’s hoping their leadership is more willing to help than these talk show followers.

a citizen: The only problem with your reasoning is that HRC is not a congressman. She is a senator. Therefore, she cannot be speaker of the house. Yet another grossly uninformed liberal.

One of the unique and great things that Hillary brings to the table is the international respect, good will and yes, contacts that the Clintons have built up over their decades of good works. In terms of doing the job well, that is a tremendous asset for Sec. of State which virtually no one else could match. It’s sad and troublesome for our future that in this day and age, that may be a disqualifier.

To all Obama lovers:
Obama is just another dirty politician that is a good speaker, and that is all folks. HOPE is a figure of your imagination. This economic mess will become worse with presiden Obama. Hillary is part of that world.

With Obama now soon to be in office we must stop acting like he is the only one needed to change the country. It is us that we must change. Bring it on. I voted for Obama and I will keep working as in the election to do whatever he tells me to do for the country. Reasonable people think of others first. Obama was the top of his class in school and now holds the top office credentials. We are large in numbers and will walk the walk for our country. We are a force for change. Help us make the changes we need or get out of the way before you get run over by progress, electric cars, battery storage for homes with or without solar and advanced systems not yet made public will come into play in the next 48 months. It is going to be a wild ride so hold on.

I totally agree with Black Voter FL. Why choose her when she wanted to obliterate Iran? TERRIBLE CHOICE! Bill Richardson should be a much better choice. Just leave Hillary where she is!

Hillary is under consideration simply to keep her under control. She should decline any appointment from Obama and fight for her agenda as an influential senator. She’d be wasting her talents under Obama.
Obama proved that he can turn on people, on a dime. Who would want to work for a creep like that?

Obama should say: My election has set a new low in standards by which we elect the leader of the free world. I have no experience, I have no accomplishments, I have no “trustworthy” mentors or inspirations, I spent my youth on drugs while studying Marxism, communism, socialism and black theology. My resume wouldn’t even have impressed bozo the clown. I have opened the door for all community organizers to aspire to be potus. But they do have to speak soooo eloquently that everything they say, no matter what it is, is believable. However, I’m the prez now! And I will spread the wealth until we are a third world country! But I need the “Hill” to help.

Show me the money! Is that the catch-phrase of the obama dynasty?

Before you phrase the Clinton administration and want Hillary back, take a look at their administration Record.
- The only president ever impeached strictly on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most convictions and guilty pleas
- Most Cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most witnesses to die suddenly
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
Historical Context
- Number of independent counsel inquiries since the 1978 law was passed: 19
- Number that have produced indictments: 7
- Number that produced more convictions than the Starr investigation: 1
- Median length of investigations that have led to convictions: 44 months
- Length of Starr-Ray investigation (7/00): 67 months.
- Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions to date (including one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners): 15
- Median cost per Starr investigation conviction: $3.5 million as of 3/00
- Total cost of the Starr investigation (3/00) $52 million
- Total cost of the Iran-Contra investigation: $48.5 million
- Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5
- Number of Reagan cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 4
- Number of top officials jailed in the Teapot Dome Scandal: 3
Crime Stats
- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton’s presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of imprisonments: 14
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122 (9/99)
Smaltz Investigation
- Guilty pleas and convictions obtained by Donald Smaltz in cases involving charges of bribery and fraud against former Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy and associated individuals and businesses: 15
- Acquitted or overturned cases (including Espy): 6
- Fines and penalties assessed: $11.5 million
- Cost of investigation: $22.2 million through 9/99
- Amount Tyson Food paid in fines and court costs: $6 million
- Amount Tyson Food still has in annual government contracts: $200 million
- Reasons individuals other than Espy went free: Concealing knowledge of gifts to Espy and his girlfriend (1), providing illegal gratuities to Espy(4), illegally supplementing the salary of a government official (2), concealing receipt of illegal funds on behalf of Espy (1) (Espy’s chief of staff was sentenced to prison in this case)
Crimes for Which Convictions Have Been Obtained
Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.
Is the Change you are looking for? If it is, don’t forget to add Monica.

You need to check yourself with those off the wall comments stemming from bitterness and resentment and maybe jealousy. I think anyone who gives up their life for public service for this Country is patriotic and it should have nothing to do with appearances if you get my drift. So before you sit around judging without thinking, read up and understand the wonderful people who were elected overwhelmingly by the American people…and Michelle Obama will make a great first lady and I can’t to see it and have the thousands of American welcome her and President-Elect Barack Obama make history and a difference! Oh happy days!!!

Sarahswati:
You make a good point – How come Hillary was such a qualified candidate for president, but not good enough for Sec. of State? That’s a good one. Well, the answer is that had she won the nomination, the Repubs would have fried her at Bill’s barbecue of – shall we say questionable – financial dealings. Americans were yet to be informed on that – so hence her continued popularity; it didn’t help matters that the Clintons were doing everything possible to cover their dealings up either. People forget that. Thankfully, the Obamacons will hold a higher standard; and they probably see a real problem. ‘don’t know why Barack offered it to her – perhaps to defang her political claws once and for all, and then drop her off when the media finally figures it all out with the Clintons.

Get over it. Obama is the president-elect so just suck it up and try to take a more mature stance. Personally I don’t care whether Hillary is asked or not or even if Hillary accepts or not. I do care about getting this country moving in the right direction and I know that Obama is “that one.” (smile)

I don’t care at this point who he chooses. Its gonna be the same old garbage. If he chooses Hillary, he probably won’t let her do what she wants anyway. It will only show he made a deal with her for her suppport. Politics as usual.

Most of posters don’t seem understand the basic concept here….this is a win,win,win.
A win for the President-elect. A formidable centrist women in the most prominent role in his Cabinet as SOS. With instant credentials worldwide, respected by Israel and the Arabs.
A win for Hillary Clinton. After running a strong campaign it is hard to go back to being the junior Senator from New York with no committee chairmanships…a definite step up.
And finally a win for the complete unity of the Democratic Party.
Obama in just two short weeks is showing why America needed someone like him. Only the far left and the far right are going to continue to be ###### off as the USA will finally be led by someone with a good heart and cool hand.

It will be a blessing.

ll
Barry is not my president…
54,000,000 people saw him for what he is. A racist, anti-American, socialist,liberal-media darling. Sorry he will never be my president. (Why should I respect someone who clearly doesn’t love the US and who is married to someone who is only NOW proud of this great nation simply because her husband Barry got elected.
Regular ol’ hicks like me have been proud to be here for as long as I can remember… (and I never got hundreds of thousands of dollars in scholarships and loans from the gov’t to go to ivy league schools like the nobamas)

ok jill,
obama will never be your president,
i am sure you feel better everytime you get a chance to say that.
but no matter obama will be the president of the usa.
but not Jill and her crew.
no matter the number who voted against him.
the number of people who voted for him, was more.
god speed to you jill, i will just think jill’ president is still george bush, or mccain, or palin, just without the damage they can cause the country.

Jill I did not vote for Bush either time. I thought he was a terrible president. But he was the president of the United States, and therefore he was my president. I think you listen too much to Hannity. He sprews such hate in this country.

Clinton said his wife “worked very hard for his election after the primary fight with him, and so did I, and we were very glad that he won and we have a lot of confidence that he can do a good job”
That’s rich. Hillary spent 18 months campaigning on how Obama was NOT the right guy to be president and all the reasons why he would make a bad president! I guess that wasn’t really how she felt. Or maybe it was and the above statement isn’t really how she feels. How can she change her position so quickly about the man? Does she know what she really believes anymore? Blah blah blah

mystery… Obama will not be the president for 49% of the country, just like Bush was not for the democrats, the democrats wasted 8 years of bashing him instead of doing something positive for the country. Bunch of spoiled brats, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.” that That is why I am not a democrat anymore!

jill, you don’t like college professors?
did you go to college and learn from professors?
if you did not go to college, what would you know about them?

W
Bush did nothing to tear down our economy or country no matter how bad they media tries to force that notion down our throats.
Groups like ACORN, who Barry O has a long history with that was IGNORED by the media, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, and Jimmy Carter have destroyed our economy by trying to play Robin Hood with the housing market.
Also liberal nutjob environmentalist groups would rather watch $500,000,000,000.00 be sent out of our economy and be sent to countris that HATE us then keep that $$$ here in our economy..
So if you did any research at all, outside of CNN and ABC, you would see that “voting for the same equals voting for obama”

wow,
haven’t you people had enough of the divided we fall era?
we tried it karl rove and bushes way, and look where it has gotten us.
if you don’t want to join in and help rebuild this country after bush and co. has torn it down (not to mention what we will have to do to help iraq)
ok, fine, stand back and watch, and be sure to keep the hate divided talk coming, it gives those of us who do what to rebuild this country more energy.
helping rebuild this country, after the bush tear down, will be a really cool and patriotic thing to do.

US REBUILDERS-CAN WE DO IT?
US REBUILDERS-CAN WE DO IT?
CAN WE REBUILD IT?
YES, WE CAN!

To Sam,
The ignorance of some of the people in this country never seem to amaze me. The bible says to keep your friends close and enemies closer. How can you keep anyone one close if you don’t communicate with them. LOL, relations between Dem and Reps alone would be mush better if they would simply talk without trying to force their opinions and views on one another. Truth be told both sides have valid theologies of government. However, neither works all the time. Now more that ever this country and this world needs leaders that are willing to diplomatically discuss the issues at hand and come to peaceful resolutions.
It’s so easy to knock those in power when you feel you have none. You openly criticize but have yet to offer one alternative solution… none that I have seen at least.
I find it extremely repulsive the comments I hear come out most R month how “Barry” is gonna “run this country in to the ground” and “he’s not my president”! Huh, how could possibly run it into the ground any more than the current president… who, by chance is ( R ). For the times, the current policies in place ARE NOT WORKING!!!!!!! Only a fool continues to do the same thing and expect different results!

W: If you want this country to be reunited maybe you should stop critizing the republicans with every other word. Take your own advice and start the healing process and stop the school yard games!

first of all bill is not in retirement
he has been doing much good all around this world.
in every area that bush has wasted our goodwill with the rest of the world,
bill has been doing good in the world.
and second, if there were more qualified people out there, they would have found them by now.
there are i am sure a lot of qualified people out there, and they still turn to the brains of hill and bill.
i believe that is one of the reasons the clinton’ have so many haters,
they are jealous- they wonder
“why were they given such smarts, and the ability to understand, and articulate”

Obama has proved that he wise and knowledgable. He is too smart to Hillary and Bill in any position of importance.

jankman,
not that it is any of your business,
but my entitlement, comes in a business I have built up over many years of my life, and have put two children through college on, and about the put two more through college.

W
Then you need to get off your behind and START SPREADING THE WEALTH AROUND!!!

obama will be president for 4 years, maybe 8 if things go well. this country needs the best people in place and everyone knows hillary is the favorite and mccain since he was also up there with american voters. this is not a game and some people will find any reason to say why or why she shouldn’t be picked. she would be president right now if many of us didn’t give obama the chance. it’s only fitting that he give her the job or this will backfire for him during next election or even during. no question the women is well deserving. kerry and richardson didn’t get the votes from americans, she did. bill clinton has the right to persue his own thing. he was president already of the usa and no one expects him to play dead just to console others. he has earned his position. others haven’t, so please seperate the two. both the clintons have been for the people and for peace so why do we have a problem. do not play games with this woman as it will backfire for sure. no one is more deserving, no one, than she is. do you think obama will play dead when his 4 or 8 years are over? no, i think he will continue to do all he can to serve country he loves, especially if successful as bill was. i have all faith in obama but when i hear this or that may be a conflict of interest i can help but wonder if the woman is being made a fool off and that is not ok. what now, someone needs referrances, or proof. she has experience and enough is enough and she’s too good for any administration. if not picked we will raly around her in years to come and karma will be a bitch.

0bama’s new White House Counsel is the guy who got John Hinckley, Jr off on an insanity plea. 40 President’s are rolling over in their graves.
What a complete and utter vile man 0bama is.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Nov 17, 2008 10:08:08 AM
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Is this the same guy that defended Bill Clinton in the impeachment trial?
Well, guess he could have the experience he might need….just in case. Looks like the Clinton cabinet is returning….some “CHANGE”, huh.

Lydia,
The word “really” in michelles unamerican quote means that she had pretended to be proud up to that point and then when her man seemed to be getting support she “really” became proud, on the outside as a front. Thats the meaning. I’d bet she still harbors bad feelings for non-AA’s in her heart.

Exposing liberals for what they are is not hateful. They really don’t like America (as confirmed by Michelle, Hollywood, Michael Moore, most college league professors, ect)
Posted by: jill | Nov 17, 2008 12:41:20 PM
That’s a bunch of crap sprewed by Hannity. Liberal love this country just as much as anyone else. Oh but because Hannity says it isn’t so, must make it true. According to him no one but conservatives love this country. What a crock. It’s even worse that people believe him. How sad.

“0bama’s new White House Counsel is the guy who got John Hinckley, Jr off on an insanity plea.”
Hinckley has been committed to a mental institution ever since.
What is strangely coincidental about Hinckley is his family was friends with the Bush family.

ll
You just voted for someone who would not wear the flag pin or say the Pledge of Allegiance until he was forced to do so. His wife said she has never been proud of America, and the Obama family sat if one of the most anti-American churches for 20 years. Also, B. Huessein Obams had his political coming out party at Ayers house.
My conclusion, the obamas HATE America and LOVE power..

Hey Dave, I reserve the right to weigh factors / issues as I reason through them. I am retired and I do read a lot and, I do not think the same as you do. I don’t give any of you quotes in you post any credence because I find them irrelevant. What is it that you don’t understand about that.

Jill,
i do not have a problem with spreading the wealth, it is the christian thing to do.
i am not one of those christian who say
“I’ve got mine, now you go get yours”
I have always, helped my neighbor,
also, i think i will mention in addition to my hard built business putting my children through college,
i should mention the unlimited people over the years who have worked with me, and put their children through college also.
spreading the wealth-no problem for me.
I love paying it forward.
remember you bible,
give with a free heart and the lord will repay, shaken, pushed down, and flowing over.
no problem with spreading the wealth here.

“You just voted for someone who would not wear the flag pin or say the Pledge of Allegiance until he was forced to do so. His wife said she has never been proud of America”
ROFLMAO.
I love these lies that right wingers tell themselves to justify their hatred.
Obama wore a flag pin during the debates. John mcCain did not. I guess McCain hates America.
The Pledge of Allegiance story was debunked a long time ago.
And 3rdly, you seem to have to lie about Michelle’s quote to make it more inflammatory.
I guess that’s a symptom of right wing impotence.

Jill says:
The fact that Michelle and Barry (especially Michelle) are two of the most unhappy millionaires this country has ever seen.
The fact these 2 attended a black liberation theology church and brought their CHIILDREN TO HEAR “goddamn America and “America created the AIDS virus” to name a few.
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Did you actually listen to Wrights entire sermon or are you just spewing Hannity’s propaganda?
Wright did not mean GD America in the sense you insist on tagging him with, but you would be a great example of why someone might be driven say something like that.
Fortunately, the US is filled with down to earth, more logical people and you are just an extremist.

Hillary should not take SoS if offered. She should stay in the Senate and tend to her own power base. Obama is trying to take over the entire Clinton machine, and Hillary joins his administration it will be easier to take the machine over. Once he has the machine he will cut Hillary loose. Obama has shown himself completely untrustworthy. He has shown no loyalty to Chicago friends who stood in the way of his ascendancy. In an Obama-centric world only the Messiah matters.
Obama wants Hillary on his team only so he can control her. She will not be part of his inner circle. As SoS she will be told what to do by Obama’s White House gang, in the same way that Colin Powell was told what to do by Bush, Cheney and Rice.
In order to permanently take over the Clinton machine Obama will have to destroy Hillary, and if she is in his cabinet he can do it. Look at what Bush did to Powell. Bush sent Powell to the U.N. to lie for him. Once the lies were uncovered Powell’s reputation was shot, and he was no longer of any use to Bush. After this Bush cut him loose. Obama will do the same thing to Hillary.
In the Senate, Hillary can tend to her own power base and exert influence on those still loyal to her and Bill. Many of those loyalists will be in influential positions in the White House and cabinet. They will report to Obama, but Hillary and Bill can provide direction from outside.
Hillary will be far more effective outside of Obama’s control than under it; and she will not be at risk of being destroyed by Obama. For these reasons she should steer clear of any appointment to his administration.

isn’t it a great feeling we can all talk and have our own opinions, and spreak freely, again?
remember the days, not to long ago,when if you said anything against what bush and co. were doing, you were labeled as being unpatriotic.
bush and co. caused the clamp down on this whole country.
and now that the black night is almost over.
we can all speak freely again.
what a wonderful feeling.
about 60 days left, our national nightmare is all most over.
all i want to see is bush walking up those steps to the plane, turning and waving, and flying away.

My conclusion, the obamas HATE America and LOVE power..
Posted by: dave | Nov 17, 2008 1:24:40 PM
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Right on!!!! My concousion also…what
a mess this country will be in with the continuation of the Clinton adm with this guy in charge.

well, still holding with my christian values,
i cannot speak to mr. biden’ heart and his giving, and i surely cannot say he is unpatriotic-he has worked for the govt. all of his working life. and from what i understand, when his wife was killed and sons in the hospital, he would not leave their side to be sworn in. and he told them they could have his senate job. because he sons needed their dad. i think that speaks a pretty decent person, at the core.
and once again, i don’t think it is the amount of money given, (because all and any amount is needed-but the spirit behind the giving)

no problem with spreading the wealth here.
Posted by: W | Nov 17, 2008 1:28:23 PM
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I believe in helping folks also, but some that want help can’t even spell
“JOB” or “WORK”. I believe these are the folks he is talking about spreading the wealth to.

“a mess this country will be in with the continuation of the Clinton adm with this guy in charge”
8 years of relative peace and prosperity while being respected in the world.
After Bush, I find it laughable that right wingers try to cast the Clinton years as some sort of hellish time.

“Please go have a kool-aid toast to barry obama. You are about to kiss US of KKK A goodbye!!”
Awww the right wingers don’t like it when their lies are exposed.

Why would Hillary want to be Secretary of State? in 2012 she can run against Obama
and probably win.

Approval ratings for pass President and incoming President were high. Which means only one thing. Over 50 millions of people are or should be on medication. Do you really think one person has that much power? It is so easy to blame the top dog.

Conservatives just need to sit back and enjoy the ride, hell the country has been enjoying the conservative ride the past 4 years… not! The same people that say Bush wasn’t smart enough to cause this mess will be the same people to say Obama’s policies worked because of Bush… mark my words. The man is in office… get over it just like others had to get over the fact Bush got in to office. To all those complaining… when was the last time you protested something you were opposition to or wrote your congress person or senator?

Someone who thinks their opinion is fact is seriously delusional.
Par for the course for right wingers.

I like Hillary as SoS. I think if Obama had picked her as his VP candidate, there might have been a chance of a power struggle between them. This is a much better alternative.

Hey Jill…You realize that Joe Biden is Catholic? Last time I checked, Catholicism was the original Christian denomination.

Moline,
How come Bush ignored the Aug intelligence briefing that said Al Queda was going to strike soon and that the activity looked like a possible hijacking and New York as a possible target to go on vacation for most of the month of August?
Why did he do nothing to stop 3000 people from being killed?

“-liberals hate America and love our enemies”
Which is why the Bush family is very close to the Houase of Saud and Reagan sold the Iraqis chemical weapons….
Liberals love America.
Liberals hate what right wingers do to America and in America’s name.

If Obama is selling cool aid then Bush sold Jungle Juice and if the last thing you remember is Clintons’ being impeached then the jungle juice put you on the floor the past 8 years! Clinton back in the spotlight must be a hell of a déjà vu for you.

Jason
I’m a Catholic, Biden supports Barry, which means he supports Barry’s 4 votes against the “infant born alive act” (only guy to do so in the senate).
Biden maybe Catholic but he is choosing political expediency over moral judgements.

Posted by: Ryan C 2:07:26 PM
Someone who thinks their opinion is fact is seriously delusional.
Par for the course for right wingers.”
Agreed!.. on the first part. C’mon Ryan, you know it’s par for the course — judging from reading a lot of posts -for A LOT of people regardless of perspective(s). That sounds reasonable doesn’t it?

Everytime I read a comment, it seems that the right-wing is so insecure and self indulgent they have to swing out at any other opinion or program that they do not find in their liking, it is a constant onslaught to find fault, never do the conservative find answers or solutions it is easier to bad mouth others, and spew blame rather than look at themselves and see the real problems

Jill…who are you to say that one person’s morals are better than someone else’s? The legislation you are referring to had so potential problems attached to it that he’d be foolish not to vote against it. By the Hypocratic oath, a doctor must preserve the life of an aborted infant that is born alive. Moreover, that bill was in the Illinois Senate, not the Congressional Senate. By the way, do you realize that John McCain is pro-choice? If you had followed his political career over the past 30 years, you’d know that.

Angel ,
That’s proable the most mature thing said on here all day.

Ryan
Actually “The infant born alive act” has to do with giving medical care to babies born ALIVE due to botched abortions. Obama said it “would make the mother revist her original decision and inconvenience the docotor”…wow
And as far as Iraq, I would bet that the families of the 700,000 dead kurds murdered by Saddam are happy that we are there, too. Not to mention the prisoners that were released from the HUNDREDS of torture chambers Saddam built (and I ain’t talking about guantanamo either where our troops got em naked and messed with them). I am talking about the Iraqis olympic torture chambers where you fingernails were ripped off for missing a field goal( but I am sure you never heard about that on ABC)

Angel, you can do my share of praying
for this empty suit. I will pray for
you that you are safe and not hungry
since your money will be gone.

Sam,
You can’t just make up the meaning of a word.
“The word “really” in michelles unamerican quote means that she had pretended to be proud up to that point and then when her man seemed to be getting support she “really” became proud, on the outside as a front. Thats the meaning.” Sam’s post.
It is dangerous to twist someone’s words, guess what they are thinking and then state it as truth.
And as my grandma used to say, action speaks louder than words. Michelle has given over her privacy and that of her family for the next four years, as well as being in the ‘fishbowl’ for the last two years. Michelle and Barack could both have taken big paying lawyer jobs years ago, worked far less hours and maintained their privacy. Think about it. She is as patriotic as any of us.

“And as far as Iraq, I would bet that the families of the 700,000 dead kurds murdered by Saddam are happy that we are there, too. ”
I bet they would have been happier if we had actually helped them when Saddam was actually attacking them. Same thing with the Shia who we left to be slaughtered.
“I am talking about the Iraqis olympic torture chambers where you fingernails were ripped off for missing a field goal( but I am sure you never heard about that on ABC)”
So Iraq was a humantarian mission then? If so why did we kill so many Iraqis? Why did we plan so poorly for the post Saddam Iraq?
Most of the recent scary Iraq stories were told by Chalabi and have been proven false.
“Not to mention the prisoners that were released from the HUNDREDS of torture chambers Saddam built”
You mean the torture chambers that we then used on Iraqis in places like Abu Gharib?
Right wingers shamed this nation and continue to shame it by embracing torture.

Bonnie
I am converted liberal!
You changed my mind!
I guess I really don’t like America,
I believe America’s enemies now when they say just want to play nice,
I believe that Barry O had no idea rev wright was a racist,anti-American nut,
I belive Barry when he says “bill ayers was just a guy who lived in my neighborhood”
I believe that the democrats trying to play robin hood with housing market like barney frank, chris dodd, chuck schumer, ACORN had NOTHING to do with the economic collapse.
I belive Al Gore when he says my carbon foot print must be reduced even though he flew in on his private jet and has $30,000 monthly utility bills!
Where do i get my “Change we can believe” in bumper sticker??

Bonnie, I have to agree with you. I just can’t understand the why of their hatred for liberals or as I prefer, progressives.
I’ve voted for presidents and then been disappointed. It wasn’t hard to say I wish they hadn’t made bad decisions or to acknowledge they made bad decisions. But some who post here seem in complete denial of how much damage Bush & co. has done in the last 8 years. Loyalty that blind is never, ever a good idea.

some of you haven’t heard or are in denial. OBAMA WON!!! Like it or not he will lead this country for 4 or 8 years. you don’t have a choice. He is your president and will set the rules for you to follow. brake the rules and you will REALLLYYY know he is president. do your thing within the law and you don’t have to participate since being american to you is the losing side. someone needs to remind you that in this country the majority rules and reason why we vote. OBAMA IS PRESIDENT ELECT and is now building his administration. couldn’t care less who he nominates just think hillary is one person he should not forget but again, we all get to vote again. maybe next time you’ll luck out with whom you like as president but for now OBAMA WON!!!

What a combination, Clinton Sleaze and Chicago gansters. Clinton for Secretary of Sleaze.

I would be happy to send you a bumper sticker! Obama is the president. Get used to it.

That being said, you have no respect for dissenting opinions when you tell me to “shut up.” I want the troops to come home safely; in fact, I want them home NOW. Who is the enemy anyway?
Posted by: Jason 2:53:35 PM
Jason, admittedly you are not real well read on geopolitical perspective. I am a graduate of strategic and operational level war fighting colleges. Area of focus South West Asia. Additionally, if I have a sniper bearing down on my men, my last thought is what your opinion is — I want my country to support me in unity and let me don my job and what I’ve been trained for. This whole notion of “I want them home NOW” — based on what center-of-the universe opinion – is woefully ignorant and naive. In my professional opinion. Yes shut and let them do there job.

IMO to all “liberal” or Obama supports, there is no need to explain our views. This is our game now and all we have to do is point to the score board. Let the loosing team do all the talking they want. But let use be graceful in our victory and gracefully point to the score board. Even if thousands of dollars were put in their pocket as of direct result of Obama “liberal” policy… they would still find something to complain about. Point to the score board.
Clinton… national surplus, job increases, global peace.
Bush…national deficit, job decrease, global recession, war.
Point to the score board.

“I want my country to support me in unity and let me don my job and what I’ve been trained for.”
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Isn’t that what the Germans said at the Nuremburg Trials? That they “were just following orders”? I understand that a soldier must defend himself on a day-to-day basis. However, he should also think about the bigger picture. Why is he over there in the first place? Did you ever consider that Bush sent the troops to Iraw because he’s in bed with the Saudis and wants easy access to oil? If you are just following orders, then you aren’t doing any good for the world at large.

I am a Democrat for Clinton formerly an independent Democrat and for the first time in my life I’m now voting Republican for John McCain because Obama is a terrorist and a socialist and wasn’t born here.
Obama will never win the election. Go McCain!

I haven’t smoked in about five years. Obviously, the fraternity hazing has had a bit more of a traumatic effect on you than my smoking has had on me.

poor slick willy —he may have to disclose his finances—-that should be very interesting

Let us not give any excuses. She is best qualified for the jobs. There is bilateral approval for her confirmation. Let us not give any excuse. She should be the nations top diplomat, hands down. Richardson does not match up.

Bottom line Hillary loves this country and BO does not. She won’t have dinner with ahkmadenijacket and BO will. She will keep us safe while BO will be looking to give bill ayers a high position in education. NOBAMA!

All too often, people misundestand what Bill Clinton really cares about. He was prepared to do all of this if she became President and he will do it now. He will not stand in the way if his wife wants this job.

“Now with the media in his pocket he could very easily silence talk radio just like Chavez did”
Yes what would Bund leader Hannity do without radio?
How would Rush be able to afford his Oxycontin?

To Dave
I don’t think obama is evil, i think he is fake.

Let me get this right… and you beleive McCain and Bush were sincere?!!!! WOW… like I said… your just searching for attention! Your just mad that the children got more of it than you. To Dave signing out!

“He did what he thought was right to keep this country safe and looking back at the past 8 years without a terrorist attack on the homeland-”
9/11 happened 7 years ago.
And if you think a President who presided when we had our worst terrorist and the perhaps the largest economic meltdown in history will be vindicated by history, I have a bridge to nowhere to s4ell you.

As an American born and bread in the USA, I find looking to this man who was voted hands down to be the “One” to make change..Former President Clinton is astounding…There is no man alive who has not had some form of fall…whether it be sexual, racial or stupidity…Why is that! Men will always rise to the occassion because of powers known only under God..and with that, the news will stand for or against…Healing one’s wounds is hard to do…but when people pull together to give reverance to mercy and Hop..this is something “all” should do…Its about Honor…and fidelity of what is true! Hope! The key ingrediant to helping America work towards improvement! It is not always fashioned in those who have faced the tyranny of peace…there has never been Peace! Contempt for those who are different and bring something to the table have always been washed out by money and greed…Why! I am thankful for “a new relief that comes” time is what brought us to this revelation, and it will take time to change the derelictions! Clinton did not add to the wrongs, the wrongs were already in place because Men reach a power status and are inclined to forget the right side of purpose and bearing what is for the good of all…None have been without self…none have been for giving all the time…But I would rather be on the side of the giver not the taker! OBAMA…A New Face and New Generation! Apachecheynne

“his vindication will come with the arrest of barney frank, chris dodd, chuck schumer, all the leaders of ACORN and any other democrats who tried to play robin hood with the housing market.”
ROFLMAO.
This is the problem with swallowing right wing propaganda whole.
You simply have no idea what you are talking about.

Ryan C, people like you are the reason liberal-media bias has a choke hold on this country…….
During the 2000 election, with Bill Clinton as president, the economy was viewed through rose-colored glasses. According to polls, voters didn’t realize that the country was in a recession. Although the economy started shrinking in July 2000, most Americans through the entire year thought that the economy was fine.
But over the last half-year, the media and politicians have said we were in a recession even while the economy was still growing.
Gas prices are going up. The economy is slowing. Talk of recession is seemingly everywhere. While the majority of people rate their personal finances positively, consumer confidence in the economy has plunged to a 16-year low, well below what it was during the last year of the Clinton administration when we were in a recession.
A Nexis search on news stories during the three-month period from July 2000 through September 2000 using the keywords “economy recession US” produces 1,388. By contrast, the same search over just the last month finds 3,166. Or, even more telling, take the three months from July through September last year, when the GDP was growing at a phenomenal 4.9 percent. The same type of Google search shows 2,475 news stories.
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A little perspective on the economy would be helpful. The average unemployment rate during President Clinton was 5.2 percent. The average under President George W. Bush is just slightly below 5.2. The current unemployment rate is4.8 percent, almost half a percentage point lower than these averages.
The average inflation rate under Clinton was 2.6 percent, under Bush it is 2.7 percent. Indeed, one has to go back to the Kennedy administration to find a lower average rate. True the inflation rate over the last year has gone up to 4 percent, but that is still lower than the average inflation rate under all the presidents from Nixon through Bush’s father.
Gas prices are indeed up 33 percent over the last year, but to get an average of 4 percent means that lots of other prices must have stayed the same or gone down. On other fronts, seasonally adjusted civilian employment is 650,000 people greater than it was a year ago. Personal income grew at a strong half of one percent in just February.
Despite all that, this last week, Barack Obama proclaimed “As most experts know, our economy is in a recession.” Hillary Clinton made similar staements last fall. Yet, as any economist knows, a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth, and we haven’t even had one single quarter of negative growth reported. The economy slowed down significantly during the end of last year, but that was after a sizzling annual GDP growth rate of 4.9 percent in the third quarter.
Housing has obviously been a big drag on the economy, but many other sectors of the economy, such as exports, have been doing well, some extremely well. For example, aerospace exports increased by over 13 percent last year.
The media’s focus on the negative side of everything surely helps explain people’s pessimism. In a recent interview Fox’s Neil Cavuto claimed this bias “is all part of the media’s plan to get a Democrat in the White House.”
Indeed, research has indicated that media bias is real. Kevin Hassett and I looked at 12,620 newspaper and wire service headlines from 1985 through 2004 for stories on the release of official government releasing numbers on the unemployment rate, number of people employed, gross domestic product (GDP), retail sales, and durable goods.
Even after accounting for how well the economy was doing (e.g., what the unemployment rate was and whether it was going up or down), there was still a big difference in how positive or negative the headlines were. Democratic presidents got about 15 percent more positive headlines than Republicans for the same economic news.
Yet, the hysteria created by this coverage can have another cost. It creates pressure for government to “do something,” even if that rush to do something actually ends up hurting the economy. For example, Obama’s promises last week “to amend our bankruptcy laws so families aren’t forced to stick to the terms of a home loan” will only further drive down the value of mortgage-backed securities, making any unstable financial institutions that hold them even more likely to fail. In the long term, who is going to want to loan money when the contract can be rewritten at a later date?
The news media have generated a lot of fear. Ben Stein has a point when he says “The actual economic conditions are not that bad. I think if we have a recession, if we have a serious recession, a great deal will lie at the media’s feet.” Hopefully a little perspective will enter the picture before even more harm is done.
John Lott is the author of Freedomnomics and a senior research scientist at the University of Maryland.

“During the 2000 election, with Bill Clinton as president, the economy was viewed through rose-colored glasses. “According to polls, voters didn’t realize that the country was in a recession. Although the economy started shrinking in July 2000, most Americans through the entire year thought that the economy was fine.
But over the last half-year, the media and politicians have said we were in a recession even while the economy was still growing.”
ROFLMAO.
So according to the right wing,
Economic growth slowing under Clinton (towards the end of his 2nd terms as the Bush campaign constantly spoke of a coming recession) but never going negative even for a quarter, why that was a recession!
Record joblessness, debt and puny growth for years followed by the worst economic meltdown possibly in history? Why that is the Bush economic miracle!

Let me see how this works, Cheney works for Halliburton for 5 years and gets a $20 million ‘retirement package’ and goes immediately from there to the White House.
While Cheney is in the White House, Halliburton receives single source contracts totalling billions or dollars to aid the ‘war effort’ in Iraq.
Hmmm . . . all the time the economy is corroding at the roots as the rich get richer and richer. Then the big sell-off happens and all the little people lose half their retirement savings, while those who sell early make their killing.
God bless America.

“ROFLMAO. This is the problem with swallowing right wing propaganda whole. You simply have no idea what you are talking about.”
Better you should do like Ryan C. and swallow LEFT wing propaganda whole.
You’ll still have no idea what you are talking about, but no one in the media will ever call you on it, and your liberal friends will all love you. (And if you get in a tight spot, just shout out “Obama is the King of Kings!” and you’ll be OK!)

To Dave
I brought up education to show that Al Gore flunked out of lawschool and Bush got higer grades at Yale then Kerry.

“Haliburton was only 1 of 2 companies who could do what was required there with regard to the oil.”
ROFLMAO….so they had to get the job right? With no bid?
Besides Haliburton’s more lucrative contract came thru logistics planning for the military not the oil.

“I brought up education to show that Al Gore flunked out of lawschool”
Gore did not complete law school because he decided to campaign for his dad’s old seat.
He graduated cum laude from Harvard with a BA of Arts.
“Bush (the idiot, as you liberal loons like to call him) got higer grades at Yale then Kerry”
Some perspective:
“In fact, Bush’s were a tad higher. His four-year average was 77; Kerry’s 76. Both were C students. Kerry graduated from Yale in 1966; Bush in 1968.”

Ryan C
Since you are truly all-knowing, can you tell me where Al Gore will be giving his next $300,000 speech on global warming? I love to hear liberals tell me to turn my thermostat down after they just flew in on a private plane having just gotten off their private yacht. Will it be at one of his mansions where the utility bills exceed $30,000 per month. Hurry up and check the facts from the huffington post or daily kos!!

“Since you are truly all-knowing, can you tell me where Al Gore will be giving his next $300,000 speech on global warming?”
What’s wrong with someone making money off their knowledge? Isn’t that the American way?
“I love to hear liberals tell me to turn my thermostat down after they just flew in on a private plane having just gotten off their private yacht.”
ROFLMAO.
Yeah how dare Gore offer simple suggestions that we can all do to reduce our energy demands!

“I just find it ironic that the messiah of global warming wants us “peasants” to live like the indians did,”
Keeping the thermostat at 68 is living like the indians?
BTW are you familiar with carbon trading and that Gore buys offsets?
“we on the right still call that hypocritical”
The right wing is aware of hypocrisy to the point of recognizing it?
Most evidence points to the contrary.

what some people don’t realize is the clinton’ make a good couple.
why should she divorce him.
they have a lovely daughter together
and they both still have very good jobs.
they seem like the typical american family to me, with one exception.
they are famous.

Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton. Someone wrote, this is the typical american family. Lets see, two lawyers married to each other, one gets a (#%)at his job, both are rich and have a daughter who had plastic surgery. This is nothing near the typical american family.

What makes you say that, Reilly?