Boehner to Face Leadership Challenge

Two trillion dollars missing,Paulson breaking the bill by not using the 750 billion for its intended purpose. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac want more money-after the way they were pilfered through by Dodds,Franks, Kerry, & Obama-without any repercussions–no wonder the backroom deals would replace anyone who questions the activities in Congress-the auto manufacturers do not need a bailout—research people research–THE ONLY REASON THEY WANT THE BAILOUT IS BECAUSE THE UNIONS REFUSE TO MAKE CONCESSIONS!!!!!

I have every intention of voting for Paul Ryan as the next Wisconsin governor. There’s gotta be someone suitable from Oklahoma (aka the redest state in the union).

Seriously, folks, let us Republicans decide who should be our leader, NOT the media. Be on alert for how and when they start telling us just whom they think should be our leader!!! Seriously folks, are Brian Ross and Rick Klein going to guide us?

I can’t believe republicans are silly enough to believe that they can somehow sell us on what they represented in the past. Wake up and start looking to the future! Otherwise we will have a permanent democratic majority and republican minority. FYI, my issues with the GOP are that they have no solutions and they are always shoving their religious views down our throats. Enough with the republican social engineering and we might give you a chance.

Flake or Mike Pence for Majority leader. Pence is stellar!

Wasn’t it not very long ago Boehner was telling us we had to pass the bailout. He reminds me of the sleazy lawyer played by Micky Roark in the movie Rainmaker.

Ditto on Paul Ryan.
Must be the new image & face of the party.
We gotta get smart, folks.

If ONLY ABC had been so quick in ferreting out damaging items behind boma. IF ONLY. IF ONLY.
If only ABC had been so quick and decisive in ferreting out damaging items on Pelosi. If only ABC had been so quick in ferreting out the inner workings of Reid’s fast buck land deal in Nevada. IF ONLY. IF ONLY.

So many Questions — So Few answers… Keep ‘em smiling.

#1: If ABC had that video of Lundgren handy they must dislike him. This means he must be a pretty good guy!

Lungren is an idiot who believes in government unions, neoconservative fascism and bigotry.

Pence? The Georgia moron who compared Obama to Hitler? Absolutely brilliant! He would definitely turn the party around and around and around. I suspect he will be defeated in his next election. Georgia’s demographics are slowly changing.

There was a rumor online yesterday that Mike Pence had made a deal with Boehner not to vote against him if he, Pence, could be #3.
Since I saw it once and never again, it probably was put forth by someone who simply wanted to mess up Pence.
He, Ryan, Issa, just about anyone else looks good. The football coach analogy fits: if a team has a losing record in 06 and again in 08, boot the head coach.

For Conservatives, replacing Boehner with Lungren is like replacing Bill Clinton with Hillary Clinton. Bill or Hillary is not a desireable choice and Boehner or Lungren is no better a choice.

Boehner has got to go. But Lungren is not the man to replace him. Let’s get it right.

Mark D,
There isnt anyone that can turn this “slide” around? Please. they said the same thing in 1992, and in 1994 Newt took the Republicans on an obliteration ride of the Dems in the House, where they ruled for years and kept Clinton impotent. Only once in our lifetime has a party won 3 presidential terms in a row (Reagan/Bush), and now that it didnt happen (the majority of the time), you believe this is the end of conservatism. Give it a break. The Dems will poorly rule, and the Conservatives will be back. Its not a slide, its a dip. And someone can stop the slide, just not Boehner. I respect the others for stepping down, I dont think Boehner can defend the party’s poor leadership in this race.

Hey Steve, who’s going to pay the penalties and interest if I don’t pay my taxes until October?

Paul Ryan Paul Ryan, Paul Ryan

sorry Cogs
The quote from my last post is from
Posted by: Marylou | Nov 14, 2008 3:41:02 PM

kerrrrryrynn
you only incur penalties if you DONT pay.
interest would apply.
APPLY FOR A BAILOUT ON THE INTEREST!

Ted Poe (Texas) would be outstanding – and would be tough with the democrats and obama.
And Ted would get the border fence built and our illegal immigration fiasco solved, after freeing Ramos and Compean.
Elect Ted!

Hey, how about Joe the Plumber…LOL

Anybody who says that we need to kiss up to the Republican Party, without checking their basic values at the door (which should be conservative values)needs to turn around and walk out that door. Reaching across to include other than conservative ideas, needs to stop now and for all times. We need to clean house and make the Republican a Party of Conservatives. Not Neocon, Not Libertarian, Not a Big Tent. That is what made us lose the elections in the first place. I from CA and Lungren is not the man.

Posted by: Imapoliticalgirl | Nov 14, 2008 3:50:53 PM “They can straighten themselves out or they can FAIL. Leave me out of it. I like my Hyundai anyway and built in Alabama.”
Bravo to you…
I am the same way with my Honda Civic built right here in Ohio by my neighbors.
Sempre Fi

I’ve got a suggestion: Congressman PETE HOEKSTRA (R) of Holland, Michigan. He has a wealth of experience, is still young, and is a solid conservative. Check out his Facebook page, even.

Greg Walden? Oregon… Take a look…

Newt’s day is past; One of the members like Flake should place their hat in the ring; you know this weekend there will be meetings and decisions; it’s Friday, and there will be plenty of decisions before next week’s vote; I”m just glad that Lungren challenged Boehner, it’s those cigarette breaks that have taken his eyes off the prize; do us all a favor and follow Hastert into retirement.

Republican leadership….
oxymoron

Anybody but Boehner -with that fake Ohio tanning bed color! He was a miserable failure from what I could see from Texas.
Instead of coming out whining about
Pelosi ‘s speach – he should have stated the reason why the first bailout package was unacceptable – naming the ACORN giveway first on his list.
He’s a typical weasel who has held his seat too long and gotten way to comfortable.

The samething is going on here in Ohio where the old dinosaurs are still wanting to destroy the party for their own self serving interests. Alex Arshinkoff has been in for 30 years using the phalicies of a long dead party leader. I say good riddance.

Anne: I agree with you. I don’t support assisted suicide or gay marriage. As far as Prep 8 I believe marriage is between man and woman only however I don’t think the government should try and control other people’s lives. I am against abortion and that’s very important because every child should have a chance at life.

The responses to this story have become critiques on what went wrong for republicans.
I can tell you what went wrong. Carl Rove and Ralph Reed and Haley Barbour and a few others decided in 1994 they were going to abandon principles and conservativism in order to try to get a bigger share of traditionally liberal minorities to vote Republican.
For instance, they aimed to increase their share of the black vote from 10 percent to 25 percent (that’s from 1.3 of the vote nationally to maybe 2.6 percent of the vote nationally).
Fortunately, in 2000 they put that plan on the backburner and instead created the red-state majority of conservative, bedrock americans which kept the Republican Congress in power and elected George Bush.
Once in office, instead of building on the Red State Majority, Reed, Rove, Bush, and other neo-rockefellerites went back to courting liberal minorities and illegal immigrants, and wall street freetraders intent on shipping what is left of american production offshore.
McCain is a great cheerleader for this disastrous policy, and look where it has got the Republican Party and country.
The Republicans out of power in Congress and a marixist President. I think he will find John McCain his most supportive Republican in the Senate, by the way.

How about John Linder, he authored HR25, the fair tax bill. He needs to take the lead.

Just in: The Taliban gave Obama a warning and they said they don’t have faith in him. Whose giving the next warning. Hamas bombed Israeli today and Obama was going to talk to Hamas. Emanuel is Jewish and that’s not going to work.

HEY, WAIT A MINUTE!!!
If we post on this website, aren’t we in violation of the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE???

Re: Whitneymuse
Obama voters went for a slogan, not substance. They will find out the hard way soon enough that words are easily spoken to deceive the uninformed.Obama had to bring in hard party Dems because of the deals he made, and if he was for real change, why pick Biden? Hate to say this, but President Bush did the same thing. We should all learn from these mistakes. Vote for fiscally conservative center position leaders and something might get accomplished.

The failure of conservativism while in power is the reason for their defeat. They don’t need to get back to basics. Their basics are flawed.

Lee: I agree with you. We should not bail out the auto industry. We should not have bailed out Lehman either. Next it will AIG. Let them all claim chapter 11. As far as higher taxes, I believe we are all going to pay the same tax no matter what the income is. However, I don’t feel that we should get a tax increase because of the three big failures. Senators need to take a pay cut and no more raises. They make too much money as it is for doing nothing.

Linda Crowley: I agree. I favor Palin also. I think she is a smart aggressive woman that’s why she made it as governor. There are many people both men and women who have said nasty things about her on the message boards however, I believe them to be severely jealous of the fact that they never accomplished what she did and they never will. She earned where she is today. Those commentor’s are no doubt too lazy to advance themselves. They want it on a silver platter.

Duncan Hunter.

Since becoming Majority Leader in February 2006, John Boehner has overseen a 20% loss of Republican seats in the House. If a commander lost 20% of his soldiers, he would not continue leading men in the field. Boehner must go. It is insane for Republicans to even consider keeping him as GOP leader. The fact that they would shows just how lost and out of ideas they are.

PLEASE have a conservative leading the GOP House! Rep Boerner was strong for awhile on the bailout & then slipped into the RINO part of him. We need someone like Pence who is true conservative. THe conservative Rep are going to be leaving the party & I hope forming their own party if Reps continue to act like Demos.

Obama ran on change yet everone he surrounds himself with are architects of every failed liberal program in the last fifty years.
EVERYONE in GOP leadership needs to go, they have failed miserably. The Republicans had a mandate and a plurality seven years ago and flushed it in the name of bipartisanship.
And I really loved the comments by an earlier poster about how Ginrgich treated his wife. I bet that guy was the biggest Bill Clinton supporter in the world.
Besides if we elect a democrat that could not even work at the lowest level filing job in the FBI or CIA I think we could trust Gingrich with the GOP.
And a question why is it okay for Rahm Emmanuel to be a hatchet man for the Dems but someone like Tom Delay is despised for doing the same thing for the GOP.
The GOP will be back. Everything the Dems want to do has been tried before and failed miserably.

Virtuesofalostcitizen:
Yes, Mike Pence should be the next leader of the Republican Party.
But Boehner offered Pence the #3 leadership spot as a preemptive strike against a Pence lead coup.
This is the kind of politician John Boehner is.

Paul Ryan would be good. Young and fiscally conservative.

Rick “Tom Delay should never have been run off, he was perfect for the job”.
You seem to forget Tom Delay is a crook indicted for money laundering and conspiracy to launder money. Whether you’re Democrat, Republican or Independent “We the People” need to have zero tolerance for corruption. Stevens is now a convicted felon and may have won the race. Until the American people wake up and stop voting for criminals we will have criminals representing us in Washington.

I would like to strongly endorse my own Congressman, Mike Pence of Indiana.
He is a rock solid conservative with great rhetorical ability, principles, and skill.
Having once hosted a radio talk show here in Indianapolis, he is also the foremost of the Orwellian named “Fairness Doctrine” that would forcibly muzzle talk radio.
He would also resurrect a flailing conservative movement besieged by the same Rockefeller blue bloods who have attempted to wrest control of the Republican Party from the Reaganites.

gotta love the media…why he lost to Gray Davis is not germane to the story unless you want to plant these thoughts in the readers heads…you would never see the reasons why a dem lost a election

Those with those memories of Gray Davis
his campain used PUSH POLLING against Jane Harmon and included Lundgren through the primary and continued throught the General against Lungren he demonized them both. They didn’t know what hit them. Calif. has urben control
by Democrats. Just look at the likes of Pelosi and Waxman.

BOEHNER NEEDS TO GO!!
This is a loser that heads up the minority representation in the House, and he has nothing but bad ideas. Sweep him out with the rest of the Congressional Republican leadership, and let’s get real conservatives in place.

Shiloh a grand jury indicted the man, now that’s a conspiracy. The man is so arrogant that when indicted he was flown to Texas on a plane owned by Philip Morris, that should say something about who’s pocket he is in. Stevens is not guilty also I guess it’s a big ploy by everyone to get them. Whether you’re Democrat, Republican or Independent “We the People” need to have zero tolerance for corruption.

Shiloh,
Please don’t make wee on lawyers…I’m one, proud of it, a former USN fleet sailor AND a lifelong conservative. Attorney does NOT equal douchebag. We’ve got some good lawyers for our side, too, and we should be glad of it.
‘Preciate it.

John Boehner is a loser and as leader bears the responsibility of losing so many seats. He doesn’t have the sense to know what hit him. That’s exactly what we need: to keep the same idiots running the GOP so we may lose more seats in the House and Senate in 2 years.
Somebody tie Boehner to a chair and give him all the whiskey he can drink until the elecetion of the leaders is completed.
Ryan is far the best choice but doesn’t want to take the time from his family. I fully understand that but our party and our country need him.
Please, please vote Bohner out of ths important office. He is a leader of defeat.

Ricky1234, Tom Delay was indicted, but not convicted. We are innocent until proven guilty in this country, lest the Democrats have made you forget.
Tom Delay will beat the charges, because they are trumped up and paper thin.
The indictment already served its only real purpose, which was to get Tom out of congress, because Democrats couldn’t beat him on the floor of the House.

I can only laugh at how truely pathetic the Republican party has become.
You let the neo cons hijack the party.
You stood by while this administration shredded our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.
You believed the lies you Bush fanboys.
I however voted my country over my party when I cast my vote for
Dr. Ron Paul
and my friends thats something I would put my 263 combat missions on.

How about Michelle Bachman of MN? She was one of the very rare few that had the balls to vote NO on both bailouts, she’s sharp, ans doesn’t put up with BS.

After WHAT! Eight Years of NEOCON Republicans who don’t have a clue as to what conservatism is, and now listening to a half wit (want to be social-democrat who hasn’t a clue as to what they just themselves into) describe what NeoCons did, and then claim that the Democrats are the true conservatives is a FARCE!!! Get real your party is as close to conservatism, as Global Cooling is to Global Warming. Wait until you find out that many of those in Obama’s cabinet will also be NeoCons. What are you going to do then CRY! When are you Democrats going to start learning how to use that hollow thing between your ears? Just listen to this nonsense….
“At the end of eight years we have seen out of control spending, more big government, corruption even the Democrats couldn’t match, poking their nose into matters that should be resolved on a state level, handing billions of tax payer dollars over to the Pharmaceutical Ind. by not negotiating Medicare drugs, wanting to tax our income we pay for health insurance, pandering to the extreme right religious groups for more laws and I could go on and on. You can’t legislate morality! Does that sound like conservative values? Those issues are why the Republicans lost but they can’t figure it out duhhh!”
Get it right Obama used Reagan’s methods like no other that I have seen in years. A perfect Reagonite before the election – but a NeoCon/lib after he gets into Office – Just like Bill Clinton. It has always been NeoCon/Libs who do all the big spending. It is always the NeoCons whose morality looks pitiful. It is always the NeoCon/Libs who demand health care be pushed onto the American public. Most of the NeoCon/Lib are the owners of Pharmaceutical companies, News Media companies, Hollywood, Banks. etc.
The Ron Paul Guys have it Right; they just don’t have a candidate that will attract the bulk of the American people.
Get a Reagonite conservative who has the energy (duh sounds like Sara Palin) and the Ron Paul crowd will be feeling like they just won the lottery. Don’t take it personal Ron Paul guys us conservatives like the ideas!!!! Give us a candidate who looks like he going to live for about 25 more years and has the energy, speaking ability, and guts and we conservatives will follow you almost anywhere.

Jeff Flake is a libertarian Republican like Ron Paul, but without the CRAZY.
Jeff Flake can lead Republicans back to their principles as party leader.

Why do all you wingnuts think you need a conservative leader for the Republican party? The voters just handed all you conservatives your hat and told you to leave. Why would offering up more of the same improve GOP prospects? I’m convinced Republicans are not just slow learners they are ineducable.

Ron Paul would have done himself a favor to avoid foreign policy issues, that is where he marginalized himself.
Also if you stood Ron Paul next to BO he loses the American Idol vote (single women) like McCain did.
Also after hearing many Ron Paul supporters call in talk radio shows I realized that Ron Paul actually attracted many angry anti-war people who got crapped on by the Hillary wing, I don’t really want to recruit those people in the Republican Party in the middle of two wars.

Jeff Flake would sell his soul to get ahead. He is typical of all career politicians who should be purged from office. Once all are purged, we are left with no one to serve as a leader – in either Party! As it is with a condemned building, it’s time to take it down and start all over. We would all be better served if we took the local butcher and a housewife and sent them to D.C.

Kathleen,
I find your observation concerning a condemned building hard to refute.
Question: how do you propose we get the housewives and butchers into Congress?
By the way, I truly love your Irish-origin name…no untoward meaning intended. A mere compliment.

My aunt Matilda could do a better job than Boehner. He’s like a cry abby every time the Dems do something. Get rid of him, Bachmann, and a few others and you might start putting the party on the right track.

I voted for Bush twice and think the liberation of Iraq was a good thing. Aside from that George Bush has been the biggest useful idiot in history. I don’t see how he could have done more damage to the Republican party and to conservatism if he had been trying. He is largely responsible for the upcoming inauguration of America’s first Communist President. The GOP Congressmen might have averted this disaster had they had any integrity, will, and courage but they did not. It really does not make a hill of beans difference who the GOP chooses for its leadership positions – it will never be anything but a fringe party. It IS possible to screw up so completely and for a long enough time to destroy yourself.

John Boehner is absolutely right to oppose the bail out of GM and the US auto industry as should all Republican’s.
It’s time for the big three to reorganize and finally get a grip of their legacy costs and high wages that make them uncompetitive. Toyota, Honda and Nissan make money building quality vehicles in the US and it’s time GM, Ford and Chrysler did the same.
Chapter 11 might be the best thing to happen the the US auto industry in the long term.
Boehner should go and McConnell stay.

imapoliticalgirl…
I love how these liberals get so sanctimonious about Republicans but have no problem with their guy hanging with terrorists and racist preachers. Very disgusting double standards.

Brice,
Thanks…I must admit, being a lawyer myself, that I like the idea of one or two of us being involved in law-making. However, I wholly agree that Congress should reflect a diversity (shudder- how I hate that word) of EXPERIENCE. I could care less about diversity for the sake of EEO.
I gotta confess, though, I hold firmly to my Republican party because I share with all my heart the views of its conservative wing. I’m like TDPro…just not willing to give up on the GOP. I believe there is good in the people of the party.

Either you all are posers or ignorant…Either way you have no idea what your talking about. Boehner is one of the only true conservatives left in the party willing to at least make an attempt to stand up to the democrats. Try doing some research on members of congress before you blast them.

We need a leader with a backbone that can articulate our Conservative Principles, I suggest Lynn Westmoreland from the 3rd District of Georgia. Newt was from GA. Georgia has the biggest Southern City, Atlanta. It is the true leader State of the South (which we must return to as our geographical base).
Westmoreland or Paul Broun from GA 10th District, but only if he takes back the apology for calling Obama a Marxist, since he and the Democrats are just that.

Get back to conservatism and clean these worthless blue blood country club republicans out of our party people like McCain when you cross the isle this time you stay. And that goes for all the others moderates don’t work here thank god for Palin or it would have been worse.

Ron Paul was ’08′s Ross Perot

Bush and the Neocons ruined the conservative brand. The GOP will always lose a bidding war with the democrats. Anyone who supported the bailout should be discounted. There needs to be a change.
This election was largely a referendum on Bush. Obama will get his chance. The Republicans could be on the outside looking in for quite a while if the democrats don’t overreach too quickly.

DAN LUNGREN HATES GUNS AND GUN OWNERS. He would confiscate privately owned firearms if he had the power.
He was overwhelmed in his bid for CA Governor.
Since he has no skills to earn a living he went back to a lifetime paid vacation CONGRESS.
Now he wants to be Minority Leader so that he can continue his quest for a Socialist America.
LUNGREN HATES FREEDOM AND AMERICA!

I totally agree, the Republican leadership…well there is no Republican leadership. There is nobody to blame but the Republican leadership for the last 4 years for the shredding of our party. I cannot believe how they totally blew a chance to change our country and govt. to be more responsible. They sat on their ^&* and enjoyed the power we gave them. They didn’t speak up when attacked, they allowed earmarks, they didn’t do anything that represented what the people put them up there for.

I’ve always though Lungren was one of the denser politicians. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a backdoor play by some members who want Boehner out, but don’t want to go through the door first. My hunch. Boehner steps aside when a “white knight” comes to the conference’s “rescue.” I.E. someone who is less of a dolt than Lungren but seen as more of a conservative than Boehner.
Paul Ryan anyone?

Pence is from Indiana!!

Even when republicans get a true constitutionalist conservative (Ron Paul) they marginalize him. Then wonder why they lose to a socialist leaning candidate.
Ron Paul and his “Campaign for Liberty” will hopefully lead the GOP into the future of actual conservative policies.
Anyone who thinks that Ron Paul is finished as a voice for common sense, has been swayed by the proaganda machine of the GOP and the left.
I am grateful that Dr Paul will still be in the House representing true conservatism. And fighting to keep our beloved Constitution from being nothing more than a relic from the past.
Those in the GOP who have ignored the limits placed on government, are responsible for the demise of the GOP.

As a former GOP voter, now independent, in order to get the party back, they need to abandon the GAYS, GOD, GUNS mantra. While that appeals to the base, the vast majority of American’s don’t vote on that issue. The sooner they figure that out, the better off they will be. After the resounding spanking they got on Nov 4th, they don’t seem to have figured that out….oh well.

Congressional Treason has brought our country to the brink of economic collaspe. And will extend to the office of the Presidency on 20 Jan.

So Lohengren thinks he can keep more Republicans out of jail than Boehner?
Mmmm, that hard to call. It’ll be every man for himself before to long. Well, not every man, just every Republican.

Dan Lungren is an ideologue whose town hall teleconferences I’ve simmered through while sitting quietly on the line. I did not vote for this man, yet he claims to represent my CA district. Universal health care is not in Lungren’s vocabulary. Taxes? Forget it. Just another Republican who doesn’t understand that starving government without providing a revenue stream through fair taxation makes countries collapse. Why be in government if you hate the idea of governing?