Bush Praises Veterans on Veterans Day
ABC News Jennifer Duck Reports: President Bush spent his final Veterans Day as president in New York aboard the USS Intrepid Sea, Air, & Space Museum, which left active service in 1982 and officially was reopened as a museum today.
The president first joked, then took time to reflect on his last term and what he will miss after January 20th when his powers are passed to President-elect Obama.
"Oftentimes they ask me, what are you going to miss about the presidency? And first reaction is, I say, no traffic jams in New York," Bush said to the New York-centric crowd before getting serious. "The truth of the matter is, I will miss being the Commander-in-Chief of such a fabulous group of men and women — those who wear the uniform of the United States military."
"Thank you for your courage, thank you for your sacrifice, and thank you for standing up when your nation needed you most," Bush said to the veterans.
The president was presented a plaque with "43" engraved on steel from the inside the USS Intrepid.
Before the ceremony, President Bush made a short statement alongside five service members who flew down on Air Force One with him. The president said he was inspired and raised by a veteran, his father Former President George H.W. Bush.
"Veterans have inspired me," he said. "I was raised by a veteran. I appreciate the commitment to our country that the veterans have made. I am committed to making sure that today’s veterans get all the health care and support they need from the federal government for agreeing to serve in a time of danger."
Vice President Cheney also thanked veterans and troops for their service and laid a wreath at Arlington National Cemetery.
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Vets – Thanks for your service. Now let’s make sure we end discrimination in the military by allowing gay and lesbain americans to serve openly as President Clinton intended in 1993.
Bush – Thanks for nothing. Don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
Posted by: ch | November 11, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Vets – Thanks for your service. Now let’s make sure we end discrimination in the military by allowing gay and lesbain americans to serve openly as President Clinton intended in 1993.
Bush – Thanks for nothing. Don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
Posted by: ch | November 11, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Our trite ceremonies have nothing on the Canadians.
Posted by: Donna Ascalon | November 11, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
I resent bush posing as CIC to the military when in fact he has spent his entire term screwing up. He should be ashamed to appear before a military assembly. He has imposed “strategy” when, in fact, his role is to propose goals and leave strategy to those whose business it is. Shame, shame!
Posted by: roger smith | November 11, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
How dare this slimeball Attend any veterans day or Military function this WAR CRIMINAL SHOUL BE IN JAIL,He has done nothing for our veterans, and has done nothing for our troops other then use them for his lying war,HELL IS WATING FOR YOU BUSH!70 days to go and I hope i never have to look at your slimy face again!
Posted by: Angie | November 11, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Bush thank you for your service. While I have not agreed with all the choices you made. Thank you. Obama will be a sad excuse for a president to honor our veterans. How can you honor/lead our military when you have never served. I personally believe in order to run for president it should be mandatory that you served this country in the military. Again, thank you President Bush.
Posted by: Shawnda | November 11, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Thank you, Veterans!
In Rememberence to my Father-in-Law that was in the Navy in the South Pacific in WWWII who passed away just a month ago.
In Rememberence to friends and to all lost on Oct. 24, 1983
Semper Fi
USMC 1978 – 1988
Posted by: ajax | November 11, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Thank you everyone who served this great country. Thank you for your sacrifices. God bless, and a special prayer to those who never returned home.
Posted by: Shawnda | November 11, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
@Angie,
Evidently a liberal that knows nothing of our Military.
NO MATTER who the President is, whether you agree with him or not, he is the Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces.
He is elected by the people, NOT APPOINTED by the Military.
Plus, I thought this was a Forum to HONOR OUR VETS. Not for Left Wing or Right Wing Bull!
Posted by: ajax | November 11, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Your words are meaningless and empty. You are not now, nor have you ever been worthy to be Commander in Chief. You’ve shamed me, my service, my country and the sooner you leave the better.
Posted by: John Smith | November 11, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
The president must answer as to why this war was necessary. Before the imbecile negotiates his way into oblivion he should be made to answer the veterans who survive and the American people. Why are over 4000 Americans dead and tens of thousands wounded? What was it for?
Posted by: Buddesatva | November 11, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Thank you President Bush for honoring our troops today. They really are why we have the freedom we have today. And I am so sorry that some people are so hateful with there remarks about you…they are to be pitied. God bless America…..
Posted by: Esther | November 11, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
4054 killed since “Mission Accomplished.” May you rot in hell bush, you imbecile.
Posted by: samurai | November 11, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
<> One simply needs to be a great strategist, that’s how…many great CIC’s never served in the Armed Forces…but back to the IMPORTANT ISSUE at hand…to all my brothers & sisters in uniform, thanks for what you do…for my former shipmates on USS Iowa, thanks to all of you for being the best shipmates in the Navy…nothing but the best…remember our 47 lost brothers…haze gray & underway…
Posted by: Jazz | November 11, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Kinda hard to swallow a “thank you” from a president that has continually tried to reduce veterans benefits, even while calling for more and more troops and longer and longer deployments.
Posted by: FemaleVeteran | November 11, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
samurai
What a terrile thing to say.
How about in the last 5 years that our doctors and hospitals have made mistakes and 500,000 have died.
Do you have outrage for that?
Posted by: jane | November 11, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Thank you for our Americans that are willing to place thier lives on the line. It was their CHOICE.
Posted by: jane | November 11, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Bush was not my favorite president, and Obama won’t be either!
But I suggest you malcontents stop the hate rhetoric!
Try finding something constructive to do or say! :)
I left the republicans because of the hypocrisy of the far-right and the pseudo intellectuals who forgot what conservative principles are all about!
I left the hypocritical far-left because they don’t have a clue what “the least of these” means and because of the pseudo intellectuals who forgot what true democracy is!
I am an Independent who wants to see authenticity! Don’t just tell me – show me!
For these reasons, I think Sarah Palin is the hope of the future! She is the real deal, and she walks the talk!
Follow her lead and our global community will be a much better place to live in! :)
Posted by: aware2u | November 11, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Again, THANK YOU Veterans for your Sacrifice so idiots like Samurai can have the right to spread their hate filled speech.
Posted by: ajax | November 11, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
This day is about the veterans who have served our country, not the vitriol stored up for the last eight years in a certain sect of people. Remember the veterans, not your hang ups.
Posted by: Nikkea | November 11, 2008, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
I like how President Bush says ” I am committed to making sure that today’s veterans get all the health care and support they need from the federal government for agreeing to serve in a time of danger.” Yet us Americans that are not in the service cant’ even afford it for ourselves. What about the rest of us Mr. President?
Posted by: Jonathan | November 11, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Thank you President Bush. Your presidency was thrown into the most tumultuous of times and events and you tried your best. The liberals never gave you a chance and sabotaged your efforts from the very start. With all that you still are a true American and support our military with no reservations. We remember you down on the pit on 9-11, that meant the world to us. Hats off to you sir. God bless all the Veterans, you and this great country.
Posted by: Sal | November 11, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
…maybe that’s an issue better taken up with your Congressional representative…
Posted by: Jazz | November 11, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
“Veterans have inspired me,”
and if I have my way, you folks will be dying for decades. Thank you for appeasing my fathers honor in Iraq wit your blood, sorry so many of you had to die but, you know how it is, Bush’s come first, hee hee hee
Posted by: JR | November 11, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
My grandfather served in WWII, my father in Korea. I have two uncles I never met who lie in honor at Pearl Harbor. My brother flew missions in both Gulf Wars.
The greatest gift we could give to our veterans is a world where war is an unthinkable relic of the distant past.
In the meantime, it wouldn’t hurt to make sure they’re getting the best medical, psychological, educational and vocational assistance available. The need transcends ideology, and our failure to address it is shameful.
Posted by: Yukon Sam | November 11, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
@JR,
And I would take my chance at dying just to have a chance to meet up with you.
That is why we serve, because of the chance to snuff out the Evil (like you) in this world.
Posted by: ajax | November 11, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
As I woke up this morning a strong thought crossed my mind. I had to go and find my bible. Now mind you I do not consider myself religous. I believe in God, just have taken my own direction with things as I see it. So what is up with MMP here? What is his point today, this veterans day 2008? The nation seems to be one that has very much glorification for war. I know a lot of you are going to come after me here. That will only prove a point of how so many really have a mind set I cannot understand. There will be those who will tell me because of the wars is the reason I have it like I do here. Okay, So did anyone really want to go to war and die? I will move on here and let you all know why I started off here as I did. There will be a lot of prayers and honoring going on today, but I could not help but to go and seek out my bible and go to this part of the bible.
Isaiah 2:2-4
2
In the days to come
The mountain of the Lord’s House shall be established as the highest of the mountains, and shall be raised above the hills;
all the nations shall stream to it.
3
Many people shall come and say
“Come let us go up to the mountain of the Lord,
to the house of the God of Jacob;
that he may teach us his ways and that we may walk in his paths.”
For out of Zion shall go forth instruction, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
4
He shall judge between the nations,
and shall arbitrate for many peoples;
they shall beat their swords into plowshares,
and their spears into pruning hooks;
nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
neither shall they learn war anymore.
I only want to make a point here that as we start a new future with a new president.
Can we ever get to the point of listening to a good source of information?
Now before a lot of you come after me, remember a lot of you go to church and have the cross as part of your jewelery or decoration or you have bibles like I do.
Rememeber one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind this morning.
Peace and Blessings to all, all over this world.
nuff said—————-MMP
Posted by: MMP | November 11, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Yes Bush you thank the men and women of the service for sacrificing their lives for your ego. Thank them for spilling their blood in a country who will spit on their graves and not appreciate their sacrifice.
Posted by: cupidsrevenge | November 11, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
I agree with you, Sal. And thank you to all of the men and women who served/are serving for this great country. God bless America!
I found a post on Peterman’s Eye about Veterans Day that gave me some more insight today…really made me thankful… Thought I’d share.
http://www.petermanseye.com/anthologies/dates-in-history/375-a-day-to-remember
Cheers!
Posted by: Tina Marshall | November 11, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
God Bless all of our Soldiers!
Now, Bush needs to riot in prison for this war.
Posted by: becky (the real one) | November 11, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
@becky (the real one)
How about Hilary?
All the other Democrats that voted for it?
Oh, I forget, they could not think for themselves, they were misled. They could not dig, or check, or find out for themselves.
It is so funny how you Liberals speak so lowly of President Bush. That does not say much for all the Democrats that followed right along and voted for this war.
Posted by: ajax | November 11, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
ajax: Lets not mention the fact that Bush pushed this war thru with all his lies, and, if in fact, he thought he was being told the truth, he is President of the United States, he is commander in Chief, it was his job to make sure it was the truth. It was his job to wait for the backing of the UN. I honestly believe he started this war based on lies that he and Chaney made up to do what the h*ll they wanted to do.
Posted by: becky (the real one) | November 11, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Posted by: Jonathan | Nov 11, 2008 4:34:05 PM
“I like how President Bush says “I am committed to making sure that today’s veterans get all the health care and support they need from the federal government for agreeing to serve in a time of danger.” Yet us Americans that are not in the service cant’ even afford it for ourselves. What about the rest of us Mr. President?”
Jonathan, as a veteran, I would like to address your comment specifically.
I am in FULL agreement with you that the health care system in this country NEEDS a full overhaul. EVERY American should be able to get decent health care.
However….
I have a titanium heart valve. It requires me to take “blood thinners” so that the blood doesn’t clot around the metal and make it clot closed. This requires me to have blood tests approximately every two weeks, and it also means that I must take warfarin every single day for the rest of my life.
In addition, I had a stroke while I was on the operating table having the titanium valve (and a dacron splint put around my aorta) put in, which left me brain damaged enough that I am unable to work to support myself. So I am on a VA disability pension.
I have also had breast cancer. Now it’s true that there has been no direct link established between Agent Orange and breast cancer, so I might have gotten it anyway. But there are also a suspicious number of female Vietnam vets who have developed either breast cancer or pre-cancerous conditions in their breasts (severe enough to justify mastectomies). Enough to suggest that there MAY be a link. At any rate, I received all of my breast cancer care, surgery, chemotherapy, radiation therapy and follow-up care, through VA hospitals.
Now, if Bush had been able to accomplish what he wanted to, my health-care benefits would have been cut off, and probably my pension as well. That would have resulted in my certain death before too long because I would be unable to afford the blood tests, the prescriptions, etc.
It was the US government that decided to put this titanium valve in my chest, and I allowed that because I believed that — having done so — the US government would also be willing to provide the follow-up care required.
Yes, ALL Americans deserve access to health care. But you simply cannot back out on a promise to provide health care to veterans who put their very lives on the line AT YOUR ORDERS. And that is exactly what Bush has been trying to do for the past several years. He knows this war is costing more than the US government can afford to spend, so he’s been trying to figure out a way to reduce the cost of the war. And reducing veteran’s benefits as been one of his prime targets.
If you’re going to send people off to war to get shot at, injured, and killed, you have to take the responsibility for doing that. And this nation has a history of doing just that. From the Veterans Administration website:
“The mission of caring for veterans traces its roots to benefits administered by the first U.S. Congress in 1789. The country’s recognition of its responsibility followed precedent set by English law and enacted in 1736 by the Pilgrims of colonial America. It read “If any man shall be sent forth as a soldier and shall return maimed, he shall be maintained competently by the colony during his life.” The concept of service earned through service has long been part of the American consciousness. It is for this reason that the first U.S. Congress in 1789 passed a law to provide pensions to disabled veterans and their dependents.”
Only Bush would decide that this war was costing too much money and to reduce costs he could stop health care to veterans. So his statement “”I am committed to making sure that today’s veterans get all the health care and support they need from the federal government for agreeing to serve in a time of danger” rings very hollow to a lot of veterans. How can he say that while continuing to push for reduced veteran’s benefits? The man is a liar.
Posted by: FemaleVeteran | November 11, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Bush killed our soldiers by sending them to a unnecessary war and making our country weaker.
Justice should be made. Let’s call for a trial. The Nazis had one in Nuremberg, so should have Bush’s administration. A wrong decision shouldn’t be let unpunished, especially when hundreds of thousands have died in two wars.
Posted by: justice | November 11, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Thank you President Bush for your hard work. First Lady, Laura, has been nice to watch as she served these last years. She has been an excellent first lady and I love her. You have two beautiful daughters who must hurt when they hear what some folks say about their father. Our family has veterans in cemetaries and I pray those of us who have enjoyed the blessing of freedom they did not have opportunity to to see so live as to honor their efforts in our behalf.
Posted by: Lillian | November 11, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Our military is over-stretched, under-recruiting, and at its weakest point in modern American history. Our soldiers were sent off to die and be maimed in a bogus war that was sold on lies. No administration in American history has done greater damage to our military than the Bush administration. And no administration has shown our military greater disrespect.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | November 11, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
MMP – thank you
One of my favorite songs “Highway to Heaven” it’s a highway to heaven, none but to pure in heart… I have to pray that song every morning, especially when I think of peace-loving people who verbally assault others (ie. comments above). I wonder how people verbally slaughter those that they don’t understand in the love-ing name of peace. We are, because of life sacrificing, alive to slaughter, once again, a leader. Remember, while you read the Bible that the Gospel ends with the slaughter of the Lamb. Bush is not Jesus. And neither am I.
Posted by: Beulah Mayberry | November 11, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
Today is a day of remembrance, and yet, many of you are using this as an opportunity to bash. How sad for you. I truly feel sorry for anyone who has so much anger and disrespect in their heart to use this day, Veteran’s Day, as a forum of ignorance.
God Bless the President, the fallen, our troops, our friends and loved ones who have family, husbands, wives, children in the military. For it is because of you and your sacrifices that we are allowed the freedoms of today.
My children’s father is heading to Iraq in February. He is proud to serve his country. Proud of the freedoms that he has, and proud to be a soldier. He is honored to be chosen.
God will take care of him no matter one happens.
Posted by: Pat | November 11, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Thank you to all our brave service men and women over the last 230+ years who have stood up to defend us, our country and our freedoms in war time and peace time. Your devotion is commendable beyond words. Bless every one of you.
Posted by: Hoping for a better Future (formerly:This is SO Old) | November 11, 2008, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Is it possible for Bush to be a bigger embarrassment? Not only is he not qualified to be President, but he’s not qualified to give a speech in front of Vet’s.
Posted by: ckh1213 | November 11, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Thank you Veterans past and present. Thank you my dear baby son who died in Viet nam. And thank you brave young men and women who are gay and serve your country while we give you medals for killing another man, but a less than honorable discharge for loving one. And President Bush who lead an Administration that spun fact and fancy to engage in a war of choice, invade a soverign nation that had not attacked this one (against our own Constitution which you swore to uphold and defend) while using kleig light opportunity and a cod piece to stroll across a aircraft carrier beneath a banner designed by Karen Hughes (“Mission Accomplished”) while 4,000 would die as VP Cheney and Halliburton steal away into the night (complete with a pardon list to come) may I say respectfully – don’t let the door hit you in the arse as you exit. I love my family, my home and this country and after 83 years I can proudly say we on the end of the trickle down stream know what being trinkled on (word begins with a “p” and ends with “ed”) while you sipped away, had drunk driver records esponged, missed the military medical exam, swaggered into the twenty-first century leaving the country with two words, a failed economy and an international image far from what it was when you entered office and enemy number one strolling the hills of Pakistan (absent billions in the pockets of a corrupt administration) as you plead for Columbian “free trade” in exchange for what you know is nothing more than buddy up to another President who killed Ecuadorians innocently and who was condemned by every single Latin American country – but your “war on drugs” has a price to pay and what the hay – just another day with the upper income bracket won’t hurt your image one bit. You used this day to say you’ll “miss” the most treasured thing we as a nation has ever had – something your miserable Administration couldn’t get enough guts to muster up the money for adequate medical coverage and the misery of long lines and waiting lists, but then what the hay, just another day at the ranch – sure will “miss” those men and women. Why? I have seen sanctimonious people in my lifetime, but God help me, you probably top the list.
Posted by: OnTheGloryRoad | November 11, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Sad that this got less play in the press than Obama’s remembrance.
Posted by: BaxterJ | November 11, 2008, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Can we please stop blessing God. If there was a God up there guiding us and looking out for us, we wouldn’t need Veterans Day!
Posted by: ckh1213 | November 11, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
I love how some people turn a great day of remebrance and pride of our Vets into a gay and lesbian discussion forum. Y’know gays and lesbians talks all have a place but not here, not today, I am sorry but something more important has taken place of all issues today. I commend President Bush for his presence at the mueseum today and CHeney at Arlington to honor our Vets. Atleast someone had their hearts in the right place and I dissapointed in anyone who feels that their issue is of more importance today. Thank you Vets! We live the way we do today (atleast the good ways) because of all of your sacrifices. Thank you again and again!
Posted by: Becky | November 11, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
This coming from a deserter from the Champagne Unit of the Texas Air National Guard. How sickening! This boy should be up for a court martial, instead he commands those who do the service he shunned.
Posted by: Mike | November 11, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
“Thank you Vets! We live the way we do today (atleast the good ways) because of all of your sacrifices.”
If you’re talking about WWII vets, you are correct.
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Posted by: drey | November 11, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
Bush started this insane war with the backing of most of Congress and most of the American people. I am sick of the much too late indignation of the latter two groups who supported the invasion.
Bush’s lies and deception are not excuses for the support he got. No lie he told could have justified an invasion even if it had been true.
Most Americans need to be looking in the mirror, and at Bush and Congress, when they slam this illegal and murderous war.
Posted by: bugg | November 11, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
This is a day not about Bush and not about Obama. It is a day for all of us to reflect on our right to post some of the things posted today. It is not a day for your rants or mine. Today is a day for honoring our veterans. At times I get discouraged about the direction our country is heading. It discourages me that people act is if they are owed a better life and the government is responsible for providing it. Our soldiers have the traits that made our country great. Courage in the face of danger, teamwork to accomplish the mission, and self-reliance. If the Sergeant goes down the Corporal steps up. If he is removed the private takes charge. Our military is composed of men and women who set the example for all of us to follow. They are unselfish and determined to complete the task assigned to them. These are Americans, these are the people who still possess the frontier spirit and rugged independence that made our country an nation to be proud of. We owe them our lives, liberty, and happiness.
Posted by: mark | November 11, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Becky, I would say that a mother that lost her son in Vietnam probably has earned the right to say “And thank you brave young men and women who are gay and serve your country while we give you medals for killing another man, but a less than honorable discharge for loving one” as well as her opinion of Bush’s war on these forums.
Quite self-sanctimonious, aren’t you?
Posted by: FemaleVeteran | November 11, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I hate having a coward, who used his daddy to cop out on his generation’s war speak to this veteran on Veteran’s Day. George crawl back under your rock.
I really despise conservative who lied about supporting our troops while they waffled on paying for the wars they fought in.
Where were you when I got out? I have never gotten so mush as a thank you. I never have gotten a break on a job for serving. If I died on the street you conservatives could give a damn.
Posted by: Mike Johnson | November 11, 2008, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm
I visited the Naval Academy today to honor my father, a 30 year career USNA officer. Thank you to all in uniform–they are the best of America.
Posted by: NewCongress2010 | November 11, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
On the 11th Day of the 11th month each year, Americans come together to honor those in uniform, the ones who sacrificed for our nation, on Veterans Day. As a veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan, War on Terror, I urge everyone to take this day to not just thank a veteran, but to talk with veterans. Learn about how our experiences have shaped our lives and what issues we face as we make our transitions back to civilian life. I would like to explain my side of the story, my own experience.
When I joined the military I was a young, confused kid, who did not know much about life, due to being sheltered for most of my life by my over protective parents. I did not know much about the war, just that I was enraged at the hatred those terrorists had for all Americans and me. I wanted to help my country, to protect it at all cost, even giving up my life to do so. It may sound funny but when I initially tried to enlist in the military, I was to be a military post-man, but the job had already been taken. Since I am color-blind, I wasn’t able to have a range of opportunities in the military. My placement was therefore in Mortuary Affairs Specialist. I felt that I grew up quicker in my years in service than most people do in their whole lifetime.
I was nineteen years old on February 8th, 2002. It was kind of cold for Phoenix as I reached the Airport headed to Fort Jackson, in South Carolina for basic training. Upon reaching Fort Jackson, referred by some in the service as relaxant Jackson, I found that the life I had chosen would not be as easy as I thought. Those first couple of days I got a hair cut, issued uniforms, and learned the waiting line for training was long. During this time, since 9/11, there was a mass influx of new recruits; the Army had problems finding them units to train in. For me I was lucky kind of, since I had a school date that did not come around very often, they tried to offer me another job, but I turn them down, I was shipped from Fort Jackson, then to Fort Lenderwood Missionary. The Ozark Mountains are cold and during winter, it was unbearable. It was an extreme change for me because I was mostly familiar with the hot weather in Phoenix, AZ. Exercising and running in extreme weather with being out shape was horrible. There was no special treatment for anyone but the drill sergeants made me work twice as hard. The treatment I received was something similar to a movie, where the fat kid got picked on and abused, but it was some thing I needed in order to become who I need to be. Despite this, I worked hard, did everything I was ordered to do, and eventually I graduated from boot camp with a new physique. During graduation, my fellow recruits honored me with “The Most Changed Person” reward, the Order of the Dragoon.
I was off to my next challenge, training for my MOS. When I reached Fort Lee, Virginia, I missed my start date and had to wait for the next one. This meant that I couldn’t get a pass to go anywhere; I had to just sit at the barracks, clean the floors, and do KP duty. After awhile this routine got incommodious. I was so happy on Memorial Day 2002, because the next day I was scheduled to start school. Then all of a sudden, I had horrible stomach pains, and could not figure what it was. So I was sent me off to the ER, the doctors initially diagnosed appendix problems. The one-hour surgery was then scheduled immediately, however it took five hours to complete. Apparently, my appendix had been ruptured for over a month including basic training. The surgeons said I am so lucky to be alive. I got a month off to recover and relax. When I got back to Fort Lee, I had to wait another month for class, so eventually when I got to school; I did my best to learn about my job and almost graduated at the top of my class. The reason why I did not graduate at the top of my class was due to my stomach muscles not fully recovering, which made doing sit-ups very hard. I did it because I wanted to join my unit at Fort Lee.
My feelings of excitement and wanting to serve were still in tact even after months of prolong waiting and recovery. In order to be all that I could be, to be the best, I exceed my own abilities by 120%. The mindset I had, came a long way (physically from Phoenix and mentally from the first story I heard about the terrorist attacks), I had really changed for the better. In the first year, I received my first (minor) medal, the Army Achievement Medal. With this acknowledgement from the Army, I wanted to speed up my deployment overseas to Afghanistan, but that wasn’t going to happen until March 18th 2003. According to orders, my team that I was assigned to from my unit wasn’t schedule to arrive in Iraq first. Instead, I worked in the Theater Mortuary Affairs Evacuation Point, a place that went nonstop for the first three months.
Sleep was limited to when I did not hear a helicopter, and when body’s slowed down coming in. In the states I had worked at the Richmond Morgue, but war was different. Instead of just seeing some one you did not know in the states, in Kuwait you learn to know every one, due to them wearing the same uniform, and inventorying all their personal effects, you knew who they wear when they left. Not only was our job to process Americans, but we also helped process British, and any other Allies. During this time I saw the mistakes we made, such as shooting British helicopter down with Sam missiles, and killing Brazilin journalist when we hit the wrong building, during that time I saw the horrors that mankind was possible of. I start experiences, problems, and tried to seek medical help, but I was deferred and told I would be fine. My excitement had come to an end, and I start to get in trouble, pretty soon my 1st Sgt, thought that I was not experiencing enough of the war, so he sent me to the Iraq, Camp Alsad. In Camp Alsad, was slow, but became difficult. Some of the soldiers I ate with at the chow hall, and knew were head on a rest and relaxation mission, but instead of making it, their helicopter was shot down. My team had to go clean the site, recover the bodies, and inventory their belongings. Man life is tough, but even tougher if you know the people. There were two other tough missions. The first were, when three Special Forces soldiers had been killed, when they were given orders not to shoot into a crowd even if they were receiving fire, not only did we have to process their bodies, but we also had to process the bodies of the people who had killed them. We are mortuary affairs first, and as such we have a moral obligation not to look at uniform, or lack of one, but to look at the person and understand their journey had come to a end, and it was our job to treat them with respect because every one has family and friends that care for them, it was not are job to judge right or wrong, which is very hard. The second tough mission was when we went with a convoy head to a site, that they had reportedly killed Sadam Husain, but in fact the compound was filled with animals and women and children. I do not think the Air Force meant to kill them, they were trying to do there job in following cell phone singles, and when they split, they went after the most likely target. On this mission two things had happened. One back in Alsad I was having bad night terrors, but the person in charge of my team figured the answer was not sending me back, but instead was to put me on night duty, and to change the location I slept on, in the location I was, this almost spelled disaster for me and my friend, when I woke up and started to scream at the top of my lungs, the people sleeping around the truck react and were about to shoot in the back of the truck, when my Sgt yelled stop he is just dreaming, oh thank god. The second thing is as I stated before, we are trained to respect the dead, and their belongings. This did not transfer to the people there, instead they were ordered to bury everything, destroy all evidence and move on. That pretty much covers Iraq.
When I got back to the states, I faced many hardships under the care of the Army. I am like millions of other veterans dealing with mental and physical scars of war. Most Americans will never know about these issues because it is not covered in the news or articles. The Army has become a two-sided issue for me; it was once a place where I wanted to succeed at being a great solider and fight for our rights and our country. Now that I came home I am still fighting another battle, however, this fight, I fight alone. I am trying to cope with sudden flashbacks, traumatizing combat events, hyper-vigilance to the recurrence of danger, feelings of numbness, low self-esteem, rage, and lapses in concentration. All of these have caused me to descend in my quality of life. I thought the Army and my unit would continue to care for me, treat me as a fellow solider, and assist me with finding resources for coping and healing. However, this was not the case, my unit classified me as a troublemaker, an unfit solider. As a result, they discharged me out of the Army abruptly without taking responsibility for the causes of my PTSD illnesses. Like other soldiers, I tried to reach out for help but once the system failed, I tried to commit suicide twice during my service. Luckily, both times, one of my few friends stopped me. This incident put me in a mental hospital involuntarily, where they doped me up on strong medicines, and no one cared to seek the reasons behind the action. I wasn’t allowed to receive my care at the Army hospital, because if procedures were followed, there would have been a long investigation and no one wanted to take the time to take care of their wounded soldiers with PTSD. Instead, I was discharged immediately with personality disorder. This seems to be the common practice for the Army, not just in my case but also 20,000 other veterans. At 5 P.M. September 16, 2004, my last official orders from the Army were, TO GET OUT!! Heavily medicated, I received my car keys, and was told to drive over 5000 miles, all the way home to Phoenix, Arizona. My feelings that proscribed afterwards are indescribable.
Even though I am still in my own body, this whole experience has shaped my life. Following my physical return home to Phoenix, AZ, I, however, didn’t return home with my state of mentality. My homecoming wasn’t what I imagined, that is because it was based on tv and movies I’ve seen about returning soldiers as hero’s. I became hospitalized time and time again.
Don’t worry, my story gets better and does have a great beginning. This new chapter in my life begins with the chance meeting the love of my life, my wife. With her continued support, I am able to handle some things on my own. A great support system, love, understanding, and patience, is what I think all soldiers should have and receive upon their return home. After all, the important issue is that we are all humans! With the good and the bad, we will always have our memories.
So on this Veterans Day and every day the best way to honor our veterans is to connect with them. So please remember and honor our fellow humans, our veterans. Without recognition from our family and friends, it doesn’t seem like all of our efforts make a difference. Many of us new veterans are being left behind, we have honored you by defending your rights, and all we ask is to welcome us home.
Sincerely,
Joshua C. Poulsen
Iraq and Afghanistan Veteran
Posted by: Joshua Poulsen | November 11, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
I am free today because American soldiers fought and died for me and they didn’t even know me. I grew up in a communist country dreaming about American fighter jets that would come to blow up every corner of that cursed land and do whatever they needed to do in order to free us. Why Americans? Who else would sacrifice themselves for the oppressed? Only an American! They are the hope of every oppressed person out there. Thanks to them the American flag is the symbol of freedom. What kept me from going in sane under communism was a picture of the American flag. I’d just stare at it dreaming of America until I could feel the hope in my aching soul. I got caught but I didn’t surrender the flag picture because I knew they would have destroyed it. I was ready to die if need be because I didn’t want to live without the hope it gave me. Vietnam was not for nothing. With every move they made in Vietnam I felt the iron grip of communism loosen allowing us enough air to stay alive. They gave me and others like me a second chance to life, a real life. Are we nothing?
I am dreaming the American Dream and it’s so much better than I could have ever imagined.
The simple fact that Saddam Hussein is gone justifies the Iraq war too. There’s no question that the world is a better place because he’s not in it anymore. We owe it to our military.
Today is about them not about politics.
Thank you for fighting for me. Thank you for sacrificing your best years of your life for me. Thank you for rescuing me. Thank you for taking me in and then sharing your great country with me. Thank you for always being ready to give your life for me. I feel honored and proud to be an American. That’s all I’ve ever wanted to be and I couldn’t ask for more.
I also need to apologize for the people who don’t appreciate you. Please forgive them because they just don’t know better. They don’t know what is like to live in a different country having to control not only your every word but even your thoughts in order to stay alive and still not be sure if you’ll see tomorrow.
I’ll always support you no matter who is president, no matter who sends you to war, no matter what you might need to do in order to stay alive to protect us and free the oppressed. You are my heroes and I love you.
God bless you and God Bless America!
Forever grateful,
Mariana
Posted by: Mariana | November 11, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
I am full of gratitude for all the veterans who
Unselfishly
Served
America
My heart swells with appreciation, and my eyes swell with tears for the sacrifices that you made for my freedom!! I realize that war brings untold suffering, and that every battle has its scares. Yet, I pray that the souls of soldiers would not be scarred by bitterness. I salute your courage on the battle field! For all you’ve been thru, please don’t lose the battle with bitterness. Never surrender to this enemy of the soul. Don’t let bitterness steal away you r heroic efforts, or defeat you on the home front. My father was a Marine in the fox holes of Korea, where he learned to persevere courageously thru a later battle with Parkinson’s. And, He is the one who gave birth to my patriotic gratitude. Always remember, that your season of service is an honorable legacy to America’s future generations.
Posted by: Grateful Heart | November 11, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Mariana, I remember well the threats of communism here in the early 60’s, and I remember having to hide under my school desk for bomb drills. I hope you’re first hand testimony of freedom from communism will speak volumes to young Americas today. Freedom should never be taken for granted. Not so long ago in the eighty’s, I remember praying for pastors who were still being imprisoned for printing the Bible in Russian. The religious freedom that America has, we owe to those Puritans who first sailed here seeking it. Revisionist history has down played the original story of America’s founding fathers. And, God has been censored out of our pledge of allegiance. My ultimate allegiance is to the God of the Bible. Whenever a nation neglects God’s laws, that nation gradually becomes lawless. Many Americans have forgotten that originally Harvard Law School was a school of theology, based on the precepts found in scripture. I still pray that America will not go the way of godlessness.
Posted by: Grateful Heart | November 11, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
I want to honor a veteran president. President Bush’s term was a timely one. For those who had ears to hear, his speeches were profound. And, I‘ll always be glad that he was the one we elected to lead us. He did so with great discernment and wisdom, epically in light of looming terrorism. The book he plans to publish will shed insight on policies of protection. I for one felt confident and comfortable under his leadership. And, I will miss him the way someone misses one to whom they owe a dept of gratitude. I know President Bush holds our safety close to his heart, and it is with prayer that he passes this responsibility on to the new president elect.
Posted by: Careful Listener | November 12, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Here, here, Careful Listener. Couldn’t agree more.
Posted by: Grand Old Party | November 12, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Dear “Grateful Heart”,
It’s so refreshing to hear you speak, to know that you’re one of the Americans who appreciate America as much as me.
You’re right, we are a nation under God and nothing can change that.
My grandfather was a priest back where I come from. God was banned. We weren’t allowed to even say the word “God”. I grew up with threats, yet that only made me go to church even more and I am not religious. I really don’t know how come the communists let me live anyway:).
And then I come to America and to my shock I see similar things here. It’s scary, it’s diturbing and it’s dangerous. I had to take my daughter out of the public school and put her into a private one. I wanted her to grow up with God because I wasn’t allowed to. I speek on different occasions, for different groups of people because I want America to understand how great and loved she actually is all over the world.
I was told that I can’t wear my cross pendant at work and of course I didn’t take the job…and I really need a better job, but I didn’t go through hell to come to the land of the free and not have the freedom to wear it.
I ran away from this a long time ago to come here and now there’s nowhere else to run anymore because this is it. This is as good as it gets. So I’ll stay and fight for her. She’s worth it! America might make mistakes but in the end she always comes around and is just as great in spite of them, do you know why? Because she is a nation under God whether some people like it or not and God watches over us.
Do you know how good it feels to be able to speak my mind like this without being afraid that I’ll pay with my life for it?
This country really is blessed.
Thank you for your thoughts “Grateful Heart”.
Good night America and pleasant dreams. Rest assured that you are loved and you will be ok.
Mariana
Posted by: Mariana | November 13, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
If Americans want to help veterans help their families by having a good healthcare system for everyone. If this was done the VA would operate with less stress and could focus on the new GI Bill, Traumatic Brain Injury, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and combat injuries cause by explosions and gun shot wounds. Since it’s founding the VA healthcare system has taken the brunt of American lack of general healthcare policy. So if you were and are a peace time veteran and broke you can use the VA healthcare system. But if you are a 70 year old woman, paid taxes all your life you are out of luck.
Give the VA back to those veterans hurt in war and help the American people with a good healthcare system for everyone.
Posted by: Archie Haase | November 13, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
As a disabled Vietnam Veteran, any claim by Chicken Hawk Bush claiming to support Veterans after they return, is an insult to our intelligence. The disaster at Walter Reed Hospital, is not the exception, it is the standard.
Posted by: Larry Linn | December 2, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm