By Lindsey Ellerson

Nov 13, 2008 5:46pm

Dodd: Dems Can’t Pass Auto Bailout This Year

ABC News’ Z. Byron Wolf Reports from Capitol Hill: An architect of the original bailout bill said Thursday Democrats lack the votes to pass bill giving auto companies a piece of the $700 billion bailout pie next week.

"I want to help them if we can, but I’m not going to give anyone a blank check, so we’re going to try and do something if we can next week. I don’t think the votes are there. Candidly, I don’t think we have the votes to get that done. With no big change between now and next Wednesday, I’m skeptical," said Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., who chairs the Senate Banking Committee.

Even after January, Democrats will have to gain some Republican support in the Senate to pass a new rescue package for the automakers — and that is looking less likely.

Republicans worry that every time Congress passes a rescue package for a new industry, others will line up to create a bailout soup kitchen line.

"Those are not illegitimate concerns obviously," said Dodd, "And you want to put conditions on any resources provided to an industry that hasn’t managed itself very well, but its not going to serve any of our interests if a major automobile manufacturer goes out of business between now and Jan. 20th if we could step in and keep them vibrant, we might allow them to survive."

So, while the aim and focus of the TARP is elastic and evolving, it is looking less likely that the auto industry will get in on the action.

Democrats in the House and Senate made clear earlier this week that they’d like to see some of the $700 billion go to help the troubled U.S. auto industry, which directly and indirectly employs 1 in 10 U.S. workers.

But, Republicans Thursday indicated they will be less willing to sign a big new check for Detroit than they were to prop up the financial industry earlier this year.

"People up here don’t get it," fumed one Senior Republican Thursday. "Bailouts are less popular than Congress."

Be it a rescue or a bailout, any new loans to the auto industry would represent another huge outlay of taxpayer dollars and that is what frustrates Republicans, when there are no taxpayer guarantees the new money would keep the auto industry solvent.

"Spending billions of additional federal tax dollars with no promises to reform the root causes crippling automakers’ competitiveness around the world is neither fair to taxpayers nor sound fiscal policy," said House Republican Leader John Boehner in a statement Thursday.

And if Republicans band against a bailout for the auto industry, Democrats admit there is no way it can pass this year, and it might be tough next year too.

House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., an architect of the $700 billion rescue package, is said to be crafting a sub-rescue package for the auto industry, which would cut a check from that $700 billion to the prop up the U.S. automakers. Frank’s committee will grill the CEOs of the Big Three American automakers in a hearing next week.

But, Congress authorized $25 billion in preferred loans to the auto industry earlier this fall. The money is tied up in red tape and must be used to update facilities for production of more fuel efficient vehicles.

Rather than dipping into the $700 billion originally aimed at Wall Street and the financial industry, Republicans would rather re-tool those loans to make them more immediately available and not constrict their use to creating more fuel efficient vehicles.

Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader in the Senate (and the most powerful Republican in the land when President Bush is no longer president) has not rejected the idea of a bailout for the auto industry.
But his spokesman Don Stewart said Thursday that Congress should consider how to use the billions in loans already thrown at the auto industry before allocating new money.

“Earlier this year, Congress acted in a bipartisan way to help the auto industry and protect jobs. The Congress passed and the president signed legislation authorizing $25 billion in low-interest loans to help American automakers re-tool their facilities to make the fuel-efficient cars of the future. It may be that there are changes that need to be made in order to expedite these low-interest loans. Other ideas have been floated and all will receive a review as we approach the Senate’s return next week," said Stewart.

Democrats realize that until January, when Barack Obama becomes President, they can’t get anything done without the cooperation of Republicans first in the Senate and ultimately in the White House, where President Bush is no fan of another bailout/rescue.

User Comments

just keep bailing out aig the corruption is obvious–as for saving millions of jobs,its a no go–are we all to be that stupid as to not see what is going on—–millions in bonuses for the same people responsible for the failure—hope in my lifetime i never see another repub as president..some things never change,now they want a free trade agreement with colombia—what the hell is wrong with these people.

Posted by: rodney | November 13, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

I hate to say this but GOOD! Let the Dems take all the heat when this goes down the drain! For years we have been bailing the Auto Industry out! It is time for the Auto Industry to kick the Unions out! It is the Union cost that make them uncompetitive! For years the Union has rapped the Big 3! For all you union workers, I am sure that the Big 3 will be very happy to hire you back, might be less per hour but you would still have a job! Better than collecting unemployment!

Posted by: chuck | November 13, 2008, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

watch what happens as the gas prices drop–the dummies will be running to buy the old guzlers.—glad we have honda and toyota in this country.freaking american cars are junk anyway.

Posted by: rodney | November 13, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

We must not as a nation forget the role the high cost of our dependence on foreign fuel played in the demise of our automakers. The exorbitant cost of gas the past year has done serious damage to our economy and society. We need to take lessons from our mistakes.WE also need to get out from under the grip our dependence on fore gin oil has on us. Why not take some of these billions and invest in America becoming energy independent. Driving an electric car would cost the equivalent of 60 cents a gallon. The electricity could be generated by solar or wind power. Green technology would create millions of badly needed new jobs. What America needs is a green revolution. It is time for us to move forward with alternative energy. I just read Jeff Wilson’s new book The Manhattan Project of 2009. I highly recommend this book to anyone who is concerned about the downward spiral of our economy and it’s effect on our society and would like to see our country become energy independent!
http://www.themanhattanprojectof2009.com

Posted by: Harry | November 13, 2008, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm

hey harry
next year germany will produce a car 4 seats 3 cyl diesel-bio diesel ok—-over 100 mpg—what ever happened to the us being on top of tec.

Posted by: rodney | November 13, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm

If one of the automakers goes under it will cost the US about 2 million jobs when you count the peripheral companies that will be affected. That will cost the US about $20 billion in a 6-8 month period in unemployment (aren’t many automakers looking to hire) and about another $20 billion in lost tax revenue. If the Republicans balk at this they are just plain stupid. There should probably be some codicils attached to the bailout but if it doesn’t go through every Republican should be voted out of every office.

Posted by: Steve | November 13, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

It took a two-day strike, extraordinary solidarity and more than two months of tough bargaining for 73,000 UAW members at General Motors to bring home a new contract with unprecedented product and investment commitments.
With the protection of U.S. manufacturing jobs at the top of the union’s bargaining agenda, UAW negotiators insisted on — and won — solid pledges from GM to build specific products in specific plants.
The agreement will deliver more than $13,000 in economic gains for a typical UAW member, including a $3,000 signing bonus, two 3 percent lump sums and a 4 percent lump sum.
Active workers will see their comprehensive health care coverage continue, with dental, hearing and other benefits improved. Retired workers will have their health benefits secured by a Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Association (VEBA), prefunded by GM with $29.9 billion in cash and other assets. The fund can only be used to pay retiree health benefits, and will remain solvent for decades regardless of the financial condition of GM.

Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 13, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

HEY HIPPIE
WANT TO BUY MY CHEVY TRAILBLAZER—-within 30 thousand miles—-four wheel drive quit working—brake rotors fell apart—alternator quit—-door hinges wore out—–ball joints had to be replaced-POWER STEERING LEAKING-and a light is on check engine.i may have missed something to much to remember—–WHAT A PIECE OF JUNK.
60 THOUSAND ON OUR HONDA AND NOTHING WRONG.

Posted by: rodney | November 14, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

WHY IS THE CAR INDUSTRY SO IMPORTANT—check how much of the parts are coming from canada and mexico—WHERE WERE THESE IDIOTS WHEN NAFTA TOOK MILLIONS OF JOBS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY,sound like a bunch of hypocrites..the garment and shoe industry were destroyed,along with others and no one gave a crap about it,we have paid a very deep price for what mr nafta did–(SLICK WILLY)

Posted by: rodney | November 14, 2008, 8:47 am 8:47 am

WHY ARE WE GIVING ANYTHING TO MISMANAGED BUSINESSES—-LET THEM FAIL AND START OVER AS SMALL BUSINESS HAS TO DO—–YOU DONT SEE THEM BAIL THE SMALL BUSINESS OUT–BUT DO TAX THEM .WE ARE REWARDING –FAILURE

Posted by: rodney | November 14, 2008, 8:58 am 8:58 am

Nows the time to break the back of the UAW. Let the Big 3 fail, reoranganize and go the way of Toyota and Honda.

Posted by: Joe | November 14, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

The auto industry has marched to its own drummer for years. When America needed fuel efficiency they gave us the Hummer (no pun intended). GM once built an electric car that, had they continued with it, would be a mega-seller today. Instead, they recalled each and every one of them and systematically crushed them (see “Who Killed the Electric Car”). That speaks volumes about the foresight of the auto industry. And keep in mind… declaring bankruptcy does not mean going out of business. It means they will have to restructure and, hopefully, come back leaner and stronger. Maybe then they’ll start building fuel efficent cars that America needs.

Posted by: Nad Drag | November 14, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Dodd needs to be escorted out of his senate office in hand cuffs and sent immediately to jail. This man is a under criminal investigation for his sweetheart mortgage deal with Countrywide, not to mention he was number 1 on the Fannie/Freddie money list. Dodd is the poster boy for term limits!!! GET THIS CROOK OFF THE NATIONAL STAGE!! Dodd your a joke!!

Posted by: grumpyoldmanintown | November 14, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Chris Dodd – you are missing the point. Your reference to adding management improvement conditions to any “rescue” for a poorly managed business is, at best, ignorant. It is the mismanaged that should be allowed to go under while the fit companies survive.
We must rescue the banking system despite its mistakes because the financial system is the lifeblood of any economy. We had no choice with them, BUT PUT THE GENIE BACK IN THE BOTTLE — YOU CANNOT USE THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES AS THE EXCUSE YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR TO SPEND YOUR WAY INTO A PERMANENT SENATE SEAT. It is my money (God knows I pay way more than my fair share since I have the gall to work hard and earn a lot) — do not spend it in such a fool hardy way.
No bail out for Detroit. Not now. Not Ever.

Posted by: Alan | November 14, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am

BAIL OUT. Senator Dodd is among many who is lining his pockets first. There are many articles in the criminal investigation of this Senator. Basic rule in life: The rich get richer when the poor get poorer.

Posted by: CHARLIE | November 14, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

First we’ll cover up the giveaway to investment banks and other assorted thieves under the TARP, then we’ll launch the Car Rescue Action Plan (CRAP), and then we’ll inflate housing prices so there are no mortgage defaults. Next year we’ll repeat that cycle over and over until everyone’s broke. This is not at all surprising given that we are looking at a one-party welfare state (That party by the way is neither of the two labels sold tous as a two party “system” it is the incumbent party.) Every election is a contest between the wealthy and influential Demublicans and the influential and wealthy Republicrats. Both have shown themselves all too willing to bail out people like them so long as it’s your money not theirs that gets “invested” in these schemes. The reason it doesn’t matter that the bailout plan has changed and was never explained before the money was handed over is that there never was a plan beyond let’s throw taxpayer money at this and see what happens.

Posted by: dem-dog | November 14, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

roscoe02…just go to Ford’s & GM’s website and look at ALL the benefits that the auto worker gets…pay child care, medical benefits that are unbelieveable, • Supplemental Unemployment Benefits: Entry-level workers with at least one but less than three years seniority will be eligible for 26 weeks of SUB. That increases to 52 weeks (which can be extended) for workers with three or more years seniority. Survivor Income Benefit Insurance (SIBI) has been increased $50, from $650 to $700 per month. The bridge benefit (24 months) has been increased $50 per month, from $650 to $700. In addition, the Mothers and Fathers Benefit will increase by $25, from $350 to $375.Life insurance coverage will increase with base hourly wage increases (see chart). In addition, members will become eligible for life insurance on the day of hire. Previously, they became eligible the first day of the month after hire.The interim supplement is paid to retirees who retire prior to their Social Security 80 percent date and who have fewer than 30 years of credited service. This benefit is paid until that date in addition to the basic benefit described above, but is reduced for early retirement. The amount per month per year of credited service, under the current agreement, payable at retirement ages 60 and 61, is $47.30. The corresponding amounts negotiated under the proposed agreement are $48.25, effective Oct. 1, 2007; $48.45, effective Oct. 1, 2008; $48.65, effective Oct.1, 2009; and $48.85, effective Oct. 1, 2010. Reduced amounts will be paid for retirees at younger ages.

Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 14, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

I am a small business employer with 40 dedicated hard working employee’s. We are not a union shop. If I fail my company would the government bail me out, of course not. The unions and the greedy blood sucking CEO’s did this to themselves. Why should we bail them out they make a product that is so far beneath their foreign competitor’s. If they manafactured a product that was in demand and was superior like Toyota, BMW, or Mercedes then I would not be writing this Email. Our standard of work ethics and quality needs to be looked at…..this is the problem..and no politician can fix this. Only Americans 1 by 1 can fix this and try to gain back the business that we basically handed over to the foreign companies.

Posted by: AL | November 14, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

As a CT transplant, I can tell you first hand that Chris Dodd is a lying pile of garbage, and belongs in jail. This Kennedy wannabe along with Barney Franks and Maxine Waters all had plenty of chance to avert the Fannie/Freddie meltdown and did nothing about it other than to say there were no problems(sic), everything was fine. Of course it was, FOR THEM, they made some serious money and didn’t want to give it up. They ALL need to be investigated and prosecuted and put in jail. Of course, with their party in charge, that’s NOT gonna happen even with pinhead Pelosi’s promise of having a “more ethical congress”. Yeah right.
The scarier thing is, these same morons who drove it down are the ones who’ll decide who gets the bailout money, how the hell does THAT make sense? The bail out is a scam and I’m really pissed off, will do everything I can locally and with the power of the internet to make sure all these idiots are NOT voted in again. Time and time again WE get screwed, and it’s about time we hold them accountable, for NOT doing the will of the people, THEIR EMPLOYERS! Pardon me for not being a lying, self serving, scumbag that thinks I know what’s better for my constituents, to whom I took an oath to represent. “Just words, just speeches”… tell me about it.
The “BIG 3″, Wall St and the insurance companies are victims of their own greed and stupidity and can all go to hell. What? An un-regulated mortgage system pushed to loan to un-qualified clients is a taxpayers issue? I think not. Let them sell their yachts, mansions and other niceties they scammed us for over the years and make do like the rest of us, “spread the wealth around”. Unions killed the US auto business, plain and simple, nothing anyone says can convince me otherwise. NAFTA, with US business sending their labor out of the country for cheap labor and to keep their profit margin high and tax liability low, was the killing blow. As I work in the auto parts aftermarket industry, for example, I can tell you that there is almost NOTHING made in the US anymore, even though the “brand” stays American. Can you say China, Japan, Taiwan, Mexico, Canada, Korea, Turkey, Pakistan, Poland, Germany, Italy, India… and these are just a sampling of suppliers for AMERICAN cars. So don’t tell me how NOT bailing GM etc will cost so many jobs, that’s total bull. Dump the unions and get proficient at making cars people WANT to buy at a fair price. Not the over inflated prices (to cover union perks) for junk you wouldn’t (or shouldn’t) sell to your own mother…

Posted by: Gooch | November 15, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

I DEMAND GONGRESS AND THE SENATE DO SOMTHING NOW , THE REPUBS MUST AGREE HAVEING BEEN DEFEATED . THE GOP AND THE DEMS IN BOTH HOUSES MUST HELP MAIN ST BY HELPING THE AUTO INDUSTRY . NO PROBS WHEN THEY HELP THE WEALTHY BANKING MOGALS WAS THERE.THIS IS JUST AS URGENT.

Posted by: BOB | November 15, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am

We should all as a nation show our true patriotism and support our country, while being “Conservative”.
You should be saying “Yes” on a vote to Bailout the “American Auto Makers”. I know Ford and GM both met the request of “President Clinton and VP Gore” to build hybrids that ran on the unlimited supply of natural gas here in the United States. Many of our countries municipalities have purchased their vehicles and benefited from the cost saving “CNG” provided, while cleaning up the environment with virtually no Emission. Massachusetts has shown the initiative to “Go Green” with Mass Highway Department vehicles. I believe Mass has over 15% of their vehicle now running on “CNG”. Why haven’t the news programs and the rest of the conservative radio shows talked about the easy ways to fix this country’s economic headaches. You guys use words like Pro-Growth, Conservative, Patriotism and Environmentally Responsible. Do the people of this nation, news channels and conservative radio industry believe in any of those words or just like saying them? I think all of them could be used in the same paragraph believe it or not regarding the U.S. Auto Industry.
We need someone to finish mandating the installation of “CNG” gas stations that the Republican Party has side tracked for so long (twelve years). So that they could keep collecting their dividends from their Exxon Stocks. That was a shame! We could have freed of the U.S. need from foreign oil a long time ago. Which would have lowered our home heating oil costs, the price of diesel fuel to the trucking industry, as well as this nation’s consumption of gas as we know it. That would lower the cost of gas worldwide. Not to mention if congress required each town to have as least one gas station put in the “CNG” (Compressed Natural Gas) pumps, there would be construction jobs created nationwide (Massachusetts too), taxes, building permits and fees collected by cities and towns to spur every State’s local economy. Drilling for more oil will only continue the oil industry’s strangle hold on our nation. Gas stations could bid for the rights to their city or town’s “CNG” station. If that was not fair we could draw straws, LOL.
Each station willing to install the “CNG” pumps could receive a tax break for their trouble and a thank you from the “Green Team of America”. Maybe the rest of you would stop bashing each other and take this fight to your State’s Congressman or Senator. There must be someone on the other side of this monitor of mine that believes in rebuilding America from the ground up. It starts with the “CNG” tanks for the public to fill up at being installed all around this great country of ours. GM, Chrysler and Ford have been patiently waiting for almost fifteen years for our government to follow though with the promises to the “Big Three” to go green with “CNG” within the next ten years (Said in 1997/1998). Electric “Hybrids are nice, but do not create enough power for larger vehicles for long over the road trips with a load in or behind them (Towing). “CNG” engines have virtually the same amount of pulling power as a similar equipped gas engine. Well, ten years have come and gone for the “Big Three” and no government support yet to go green. Let’s get started for once instead of just talking about it!!!
The U.S. Auto Makers are building quality autos. If the world thought as negatively as you and the general pubic, Mercedes Benz would have never purchased Chrysler several years ago. They could see the quality, but had to sell off Chrysler when they realized how the media in this country are bias in their belief that only foreign automobile manufacturers build a competitive/quality car or truck. They saw the market share of Chrysler continue to drop off even with the Mercedes “High Quality” name tag behind them. That is also a shame!
After 9/11 the “Big Three” donated 12 Million plus dollars to the relief efforts, Toyota and Honda Gave Zero. There is something to be proud of, true “Patriotism”. During World War II, GM shut down their Plants and changed over to build the United States of America tanks to protect our country. Maybe it is our turn to return the favor.
The Big Thee deserve a “Bailout” and the media support for once in the last ten years! We as nation should stop being our own worst enemy! That is why the world has stopped looking at the United States as a leader.

Posted by: KP | November 15, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

The only reason possible to bailout the auto industry is 1: to alleviate the impact on the mutual funds owned by millions through personal accounts, ira’s and pensions and 2: to prevent a larger increase in unemployment if the auto industry goes under. The auto makers by all rights should go bankrupt for the mismanagement, giving in to the UAW each time there was a contract, perpetuating the nanny state endorsed by UAW and the Dems, and for creating products that no one wants to buy. Of course the Dems will give the unions exactly what they want as a payback for the union support. Unions are special interests and they only want as much money as they can get and the Dems will cave in every time. Welcome to the world of Democratic control.

Posted by: jschmidt | November 15, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

I make about $14 per hour and it infuriates me that taxes might be taken out of my check to pay for some walking-dead dinosaur company like GM and $73 per hour UAW workers. They refuse to make quality vehicles with good gas milage that are more affordable than the completition. They are just an international company like Honda in Ohio (Mexico plants, etc). When our kitchen puts too much salt and ruins a dish we don’t pick out each grain -easier to wipe the slate clean and start over again without all the baggage. If they get a bail out, I want one too. Bailing out is moral hazard -it rewards bad decisions -look it up. We need to put our efforts into fresh new companies that have a more environmental focus. It makes me want to almost cry that the guuvment just wants to reward the status quo of wall street fat cats auto execs & UAW members that feel entitled. Sure the transition will be painful -but as the song says it has to be a catastrophe (temporary) TO GROW!!! Go USA -down with GM. If GM is gone it does not mean that people will stop buying US cars so the domino effect is overstated.

Posted by: Matt Boynton | November 16, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

There should be No Auto Bailout, Ever!
Let the Little Three go into Bankruptcy!
Force them to streamline their
operations, cut the outrageous wages
paid to workers from $78 an Hour at
least in half and cut the benefits
big time! Then Force the Little Three
to actually compete with Toyota, Honda
etc by making fuel efficient cars that get at least 30 MPG, 35 MPG would be
better! No More Bailouts!

Posted by: reaganfan | November 16, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Thank you Ashley, you are correct. What makes me laugh is how people keep said how GM and Ford are not building fuel efficient car and trucks. GM has the most vehicles getting over 30 MPG. Ford is not far behind. Honda Ridgeline is small truck, but only gets 16-17 miles per gallon. Say what you want, but both full size Ford F150 Pickup and Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Pickup are much larger and still get 21 MPG. Do you know this is the only country in the world that sells itself short when looking at the quality of their Automobiles. Mercedes Benz sold off Chrysler after they realized, no matter how good the quality has become, the media and the idiots in this country that listen to them will make it hard to overcome market conditions. That is a Shame!!

Posted by: KP | November 17, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

I can’t wait to see and listen to all of you baby boomers starting to collect Social Security and will have a shortage sooner, rather than later. Only you morons belief there is ever a surplus in the Social Security Trust Fund. You need jobs here in the U.S. to pay in each year for the money to be there next year. They Zero that account out every year after they calculate who qualifies to recieve it the following year. God you guy know so little and claim to know so much. LOL, as they say, the person to speaks the loudest/most, most likely knows the least.

Posted by: KP | November 17, 2008, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm

I’ll laugh when the rest of you have your mother and father living with you. Not, because their no longer of sound mind. It will be because their Social Security check isn’t enough to cover their average living expenses. You voted to finish off their IRA/Mutual Funds invested in the U.S. Auto industry. Hope you have an extra bedroom and a few extra thousand dollars you can throw their way. They’ll need it, LOL

Posted by: KP | November 17, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm

i heard that there was a suggestion to give the taxpaying people 60 thousand dollars to each person or family to buy an american made green vehicle instead of just giving the money to the auto dealerships and this way the autodealers would still get the money threw us buying a car , and i also heard it would cost less to do it, i personally think if i am going to pay taxes on some bail out , it would be nice to have a piece of it

Posted by: nicci | December 9, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

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