Does Obama Support Pelosi/Reid Request For Aid To Auto Industry?
Yesterday House Speaker Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Leader Harry Reid requested Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson use the $700 billion economic bailout for the auto industry.
This morning when I asked Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill, President-elect Barack Obama’s newly named White House Chief of Staff, whether Obama would support such a move, he explained, "First the auto industry is an essential part of our economy and an essential part of our industrial base. Second they should look at accelerating the $25-billion that was offered for re-tooling for the industry going forward. Third, there are other authorities within the administration that they should use at this time and forth, President-elect Obama has asked his economic team to look at different options at what it takes to help bridge the auto industry so not only are they apart of a revived economy but part of an energy policy where America is less dependent of foreign oil."
Emanuel said that Obama believes he can use the government’s existing authority to aid the auto industry. A signal that Obama would support the Reid/Pelosi proposal?
–George Stephanopoulos

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The U.S. auto industry should be allowed to fail. They’ve had 35 years to design more fuel efficient vehicles and now they are crying because no one wants the ones they do build?
Posted by: ellsbells930 | November 9, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Pelosi and Reid should not and I repeat NOT be making the calls .Pelosi, I wish someone would strip her of her position in the Senate Reid has a big mouth too>>>>>>>
Posted by: indp voter | November 9, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Plays right into the Democratic Play book.
The more business and industry they control. The better it works into their plans with out much work and lessens it being obvious.
They have half the citizens under control. They will be working on the rest as they go.
They have the economy where they need it.
Taking over a Government has never been so easy, since they set up all the ground work in Advance, and set up a scapegoat.
The Progression was begun 2 years ago.
So forget the popcorn, buy groceries and what you need, turn your money into gold or silver. This kind of ride never turns out well for the people.
Posted by: seah | November 9, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Aren’t we missing a couple of things? If we expect to help the housing markets we need to put people to work. The bail out money is coming from us the people who aren’t working. Bail the automotive companies out with the stipulations that they need to bring the jobs back to America. Indirectly or directly depending on how you see it they are part of the reason we are crumbling.
Adam Gross
Posted by: Adam Gross | November 9, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
seah: “They have half the citizens under control.” – Yes, we call it democracy.
Posted by: jock59801 | November 9, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Obama knows who the boss is. He will do what Nancy Tells him to do.
Straight and Simple!
NO BAILOUT for the Car Industry!
Posted by: ajax | November 9, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
@seah
I agree. People need to wake up. We are screwed. :)
Posted by: ajax | November 9, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Yea, no bailout. Screw the 3 million jobs. They might be able to find new ones at McDonalds. Of course we’ll all pay anyhow through unemployement benefits, failed pension, paying 100% of retiree heath care, and lower tax collection. But at least we didn’t bail them out.
Posted by: George | November 9, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Wow! I really want to bail out an industry that pays $22/hour for someone to sweep the floor, pays for workers not to work, and hasn’t found their way into a generation’s drive way in well, a generation. This is a bailout for the labor unions and the failed experiment that is organized labor. The years of Detroit Auto Exec in-breeding (a parking lot puddle deep gene pool) coupled with the paralyzing impact of labor unions hardly needs a bail out. They need a clean out. Fire the Auto Executives and provide them with the same parachute the $22/hour janitor gets. Then remove the union leaders and provide them with the same parachute. After the “clean out” then we can discuss the bail out. Personal responsibility is the first step on the road to recovery. To think that this group of “boneheads” even have the nerve to ask for help speaks volumes about their character and willingness to accept responsibillity. Educated idiots…you make me sick!
Posted by: Lee | November 9, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Lee – I like your ideas.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | November 9, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
While I think the labor unions are inflexible, it wasn’t their fault that Detroit was building only gas guzzling cars when gas prices spiked. Toyota has been working on fuel efficient cars for years and had product in the market to meet the demand. Ford, Chrysler and GM had nothing to offer the consumer. That is espcially annoying when GM used to be the market leader in hybrid cars and gave that up with a strategy that focused solely on gas guzzlers. Don’t blame the unions for the failed leadership at the top. The problem we have now is that this country can’t afford to have our entire auto industry wiped out. The unions will have to take a haircut in salaries and the execs will need a complete buzz cut as they have shown a willingness to pay themselves huge bonuses even in bad years.
Posted by: Todd | November 9, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
its nice….
Posted by: seo test | November 9, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
The problems with the US auto industry are twofold: First, US auto makers have been utterly irresponsible with the money that should have gone toward employee pensions (they signed contracts in good faith and must legally uphold those contracts). Second, US auto makers signed onto labor contracts they couldn’t live up to in the first place. Looking through that lens, the reduction in quality makes sense since the industry must sacrifice investment in itself to pay for pensions. As a solution, US auto makers ought to either be allowed to fail or allowed to merge (and thus renegotiate their labor contracts). Obviously merging is probably the least-bad option. Going for another government dole is the worst option since it discourages essential “creative destruction” – a central tenet of market economies – and encourages an infantile attitude among actors in the economy.
Posted by: Andrew E. | November 10, 2008, 10:10 am 10:10 am
“Pelosi and Reid should not and I repeat NOT be making the calls .Pelosi, I wish someone would strip her of her position in the Senate Reid has a big mouth too>>>>>>>
Posted by: indp voter | Nov 9, 2008 11:21:50 AM”
Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is the Speaker of the House of Representatives and Harry Reid (D-NV) is the Majority Leader in the Senate. The Democrat party would be hard-pressed to remove them, even though they represent the radical fringe of their party – Pelosi especially, since she represents a far far-left district in San Francisco. They were a major reason I voted for McCain this election.
Posted by: Andrew E. | November 10, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
I just listened to that video….WHAT A JOKE ALREADY!
If Obama wants to be President, He had better call Pelosi & Reid in do some serious b!tch slapping! This was exactly the kind of thing I feared about an Obama presidency. It has not been a week, and already Pelosi/Reid are off ontheir own trying to broker deals like this.
He should be telling both of them to SHUT UP, PUT UP & SHOW UP.
You can see its going to the same BS politics as usual in Washington. If Obama had handled this right, Emanuel should have been telling George that at this point, Pelosi & Reid are out of line trying broker deals before the President elect has had a chance to review what they want to propose to the auto industry.
They needed to get i swift kick in the ass, but on test of power #1, Obama has failed to make it clear who is really in charge!
Posted by: Mike_C | November 10, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
they should do so on the promise the auto industry will replace the jobs they let go.
Posted by: mary | November 10, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
The American auto industry knew there was an energy crisis back before I graduated high school in the 1970s. Like a lot of businesses, though, they put their eggs in one basket: whichever basket was selling. They held on to only what sells, without an eye to what future needs might be. Maximizing profit was the name of the game, which is why the only interior color you can get these days is black! And, they felt it really wasn’t their place to tell people not to buy cars with V8 engines and be more like Europe. Americans are spoiled and used to getting what they want, when they want it, without regard to economic or environmental consequence. Doing the right thing is “inconvenient”. GM pulled station wagons and the electric car because they weren’t pulling the strong sales numbers trucks and SUVs were. So now the government is faced with a problem – reward the ants who ran proactive businesses who budgeted for technological innovations that help reduce dependency on fossil fuel, or bail out the grasshoppers who only lived for today’s sales? You could form a line for all the industries that need help today – why not bail out the failing newspaper industry while we’re at it? What makes auto workers’ jobs more important than anybody elses? We’re ALL in a bind…
Posted by: Iris M Gross | November 10, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
To: ellsbells930 and the rest of you frauds that claim to be patriotic! Read this and get educated for once in your life. Both GM and Ford built fantastic vehicles. Not to mention the other brands that you consider fine automobiles, such as Volvo, Jag, Land Rover, Austin Martin, Cadilac, Hummer, Saab, Opel and more. All of those are owned by american manufactures you blockheads.
GM & Ford answered the bell when President Clinton and VP Al Gore requested the domestic auto makes to build “Hybrids”. They are not based on “Electric”, they run on “CNG” (That’s Compressed Natual Gas of which the United States sits on already one of the largest fields of in the world) and burns completely clean emmission wise. In fact many of the municipalities nationwide already run on it. The only reason we as the public are not able to buy the “CNG Hybrids” ourselves is beacause the Republican Party were making to much money investing in Exxon and taking their dividens to the bank. They chose to side track mandates to for gas stations nation wide to put in the “CNG” pumps for the public to fill up at. The Republican don’t care about the environment, never have, never will. Ask a few firefighter/police officers how many of them have been sent to the hospital from “Electric Hybrids” that have burnt rescue teams and occupants. “CNG” provides the same power as a “Gas” engine with virtually no emmissions. You can’t power a bus, truck, Etc. with electric. It doesn’t last long enough or make enough power. Tell your senator and congressman that you want to support the american auto maker that gave hundreds of millions after 9/11 (Toyota gave Zero ($0) you idiots). This is why were broke as a country; “The people who talk the most, know the least”. I hope Obama and re-educate the vast number of you that forgot what america is about. “Support your country and it will support you”
Posted by: KP | November 10, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Excuse me KP, but I AM educated. And my experience has shown me that GM & Ford build crappy vehicles. Every vehicle I have purchased from an “American” car company has had shoddy workmanship. The trim comes off, handles & knobs break easily, the transmissions die. We had a Honda Accord for 18 years and the only reason we got rid of it, was the body was finally starting to show some rust. We never had ANY problems with it. We currently have a Honda CR-V and Chevy Colorado…. guess which one is constantly in the shop? Not the Honda.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | November 10, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Oh – and my Accord was built in Ohio. (As for the other vehicles you mentioned, I NEVER said they were fine vehicles – so do NOT put words in MY mouth).
Posted by: ellsbells930 | November 10, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
These car manufactures do not need a bailout, neither did the banking.
The bailout is equivilent to a heart bypass when a person is suffering from the flu. The economy is a living organism that will adapt without outside stimulants.
If the companies would have crashed, others would have thrived.
The real issue with the economy was that every was overinflated.
Posted by: James | November 10, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Over twenty years ago, the government requested that the auto manufacturers make small cars as they were aware of the problems with oil and what could happen down the line. However, they never followed up on it and the auto manufacturers started this trend and then when back to making full size cars and then on to the suv’s which were the biggest gas guzzlers. No incentives were made to the auto manuf. nor were any penalties imposed for making these cars. Everyone went back to “as is” living. Now, we are suffering. If the government had followed up on the making of small cars instead of taking money from the auto lobbyhista maybe we would not be in this mess. Both are to blame. I hope Obama will straighten this out.
Posted by: Pat Napolitano Marietta. Ga. | November 11, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Thank you Pat Napolitano Marietta. Ga., you are correct. The U.S. Automakers were force to spend millions to create the vehicles requested by congress. I live in Massachusetts and many of our State’s department vehicles such as “Mass Highway Dept” run on “CNG”. Those vehicles include everything from small cars up to larger pickups. Ford and Chevrolet already have ten plus years of their cars and pickups sold to my State. I am angry that I don’t have the opportunity to purchase the same cars as they do. Simply because I would have no place to fill my tank after taken delivery. So my local dealership couldn’t sell me one know matter how bad I want to protect our environment. That is a shame. But, we can’t keep blaming our domestic auto companies for something they have had no support from our country.
Posted by: KP | November 11, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
A couple of things to consider:
1. If your customers are demanding Trucks and SUV’s you make Trucks and SUV’s. The demand for the fuel efficient cars is a recent development and until 2008 auto makers were making the cars that were being demanded. Until 2008 the Ford F-150 was the number 1 sold vehicle. These companies are a business- their bottom line is Revenue and criticizing them for doing anything different is ignorant. They are not a non-profit industry out to help the greater good they are out to make money.
2.Many of you must not live in Michigan or know anyone who does because if you did then you would know the DEPRESSION that Michigan is already in. Every company in Michigan has already cut jobs, auto related or not- if the Big 3 go out of business the entire state of Michigan will basically be bankrupt. If GM, Chrysler, and Ford fail 5 million jobs will be lost. Don’t you think that is eventually going to trickle down to everybody else in country and create the second Great Depression??
3. They auto makers are currently working on switching current U.S. plants to make smaller cars. But anyone how knows anything about production management that takes time and $$$$.
We are at a point as a country where pointing the finger has got to stop; everyone has played a part in getting us to where we are today- whether it was the banks, government, industry, or you and me.
I am a student in Michigan, I have lived here my whole life and the majority of my family is here. It feels awful to know that when I graduate in May that I will have to pack up and leave my family and the life I’ve known to find a job in another state or at this rate another country.
Please people have some compassion in your hearts and logic in your brains.
Posted by: Ashley | November 17, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Thank you Ashley, you are correct. What makes me laugh is how people keep said how GM and Ford are not building fuel efficient car and trucks. GM has the most vehicles getting over 30 MPG. Ford is not far behind. Honda Ridgeline is small truck, but only gets 16-17 miles per gallon. Say what you want, but both full size Ford F150 Pickup and Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Pickup are much larger and still get 21 MPG. Do you know this is the only country in the world that sells itself short when looking at the quality of their Automobiles. Mercedes Benz sold off Chrysler after they realized, no matter how good the quality has become, the media and the idiots in this country that listen to them will make it hard to overcome market conditions. That is a Shame!!
Posted by: KP | November 17, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
I can’t wait to see and listen to all of you baby boomers starting to collect Social Security and will have a shortage soon rather than later. Only you morons belief ther is ever a surplus in the Social Security Trust Fund. You need jobs here in the U.S. to pay in each year for the money to be there next year. They Zero that account out every year after the calculate who qualifies to recieve it the fiolloing year. God you guy know so little and claim to know so much. LOL, as they say, the person to speaks the loudest/most, most likely knows the least.
Posted by: KP | November 17, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
I can’t wait to see and listen to all of you baby boomers starting to collect Social Security and will have a shortage sooner, rather than later. Only you morons belief there is ever a surplus in the Social Security Trust Fund. You need jobs here in the U.S. to pay in each year for the money to be there next year. They Zero that account out every year after they calculate who qualifies to recieve it the following year. God you guy know so little and claim to know so much. LOL, as they say, the person to speaks the loudest/most, most likely knows the least.
Posted by: KP | November 17, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
So George, or should I say, Mister Press Secretary? Obama seems to have a workable plan, and he has the advantage of connecting former rivals. In the last downturn, lets just call it GD1, most countries were treated more like combatants than trading partners. Then protectionism choked commerce, the blood supply needed for necessary institutional evolution. Obama has stuck his head into the hornet’s nest “taking a look” at all government spending. He is either diabolical or spot on about what has to be done. He’s a sharp man at a time when that is exactly what we need. I think he is free enough of ideology and old political debt or legacy and no old friends, he has no choice but to win on merit. As he had few real enemies in the past, now, because of his position, they abound. He seems to be the real deal, a real “people’s President”. God help him.
Posted by: JH | November 26, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am