Comments on: Halperin Decries ‘Disgusting’ Pro-Obama Media Bias in Election Coverage

By: Noketch

Noketch — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:34:22 +0000

Why do people keep saying Obama has not released his birth certificate? He did already and it has been verified. Note:
“Allegations raised on the Internet say the birth certificate, showing that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, is a fake.
But state officials in Hawaii say they checked health department records and have determined there’s no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.
The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document.
In addition, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama’s birth, including his parents’ address in Honolulu, that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961.”
How could factcheck have verified it and the state of Hawaii have verified it, if it was never produced?
Further how would his parents have had the foresight to publish a fake birth announcement when he was born in an Hawaii paper?
I just don’t understand why people keep saying he hasn’t produced his birth certificate. It simply isn’t true.

By: Skipperdog

Skipperdog — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 15:24:47 +0000

If Michelle had illegally obtained perscription medications like Cindy I’m sure the media would have pointed it out. If Barack had shamlessly divorced his first wife I’m sure the media would have pointed it out. If Obama had signed an anti-american statement while held prisioner I’m sue the media would have mentioned it. If Obama had finished near the bottom of his college class I’m sure the media would have mentioned it. If, like Palin, Barack had gone to 4 different colleges I’m sure someone would have dug into what he was running from. If Michelle was given almost 200k to buy clothes and then talked ad nausium about it I’m sure it would have been covered. If McCain had run a discplined and coherent campaign I’m sure the coverage would have been different. If Obama had fumbled the economic crisis I’m sure the coverage would have been different.

By: Erika

Erika — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:54:32 +0000

Actually, the article is, “FAQs About Children Born Abroad to a U.S. Citizen Parent or Grandparent,” not “of Grandparent.” But I just copied and pasted the title from the Greencardlawyers site, so I’m not sure if search engines pick up both.

By: Erika

Erika — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:48:49 +0000

Noketch,
It just can’t make sense not to just release the birth certificate if there’s no problem there. That’s really nothing more than common sense, isn’t it? And I certainly don’t think Arnold Schwarzenegger could even think to try to run for President without amending the Constitution first to allow it, but in cases that aren’t black-and-white like that, I do believe it could be possible. A New York Times article discusses McCain’s birth in Panama and how that might have affected him: “McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out.”
On your own situation, you might want to consult with an immigration lawyer or someone with Immigration. It doesn’t exactly seem very simple. The article “FAQs about Children Born Abroad to a U.S. Citizen Parent of Grandparent” discusses different possible situations and circumstances.

By: Don

Don — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:07:51 +0000

If McCain had engaged in the same race-baiting, character-smearing, falsehood-fest that Obama did in the “Dos Caras” ad, we would’ve heard about it from that day through the end of the election. It’s just a bit ironic, given the circumstances, that McCain was the one compared to George Wallace. Of course, the saddest fact isn’t that the Obama campaign ran that advertisement — it’s that they ran that advertisement knowing that criticism from the press would be minimal.
No campaign would ever risk running such a racially-charged ad without knowing they were safe from press criticism. Obama knew he enjoyed such safety — and felt free to run it. Why?

By: Noketch

Noketch — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:32:47 +0000

Steve,
Thanks for clarifying what you meant. I still however say that we don’t qualify as a Third World Nation by any definition. Picking one characteristic of a Third World Nation and assigning it to us does not make us a Third World Nation, whether or not the one characteristic is true. Anymore than it would be accurate to say that everyone who has a big, red nose is a clown. Now if they had a big red nose, a big curly wig, big floppy shoes and wore a loud costume that looked like pajamas.. well then we might be getting somewhere. :-)
I just hope we don’t turn into a Third World Nation. I love this country. It is my home.

By: Noketch

Noketch — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:26:54 +0000

Erika,
All other arguments, logical and otherwise aside,do you really think that Obama would have been able to run for President if he were not a natural born American Citizen? In these days NOTHING is private and ANY information can be found.
A massive number of people would have had to have been involved in a conspiracy to pull this off, including as I mentioned before his parents who would have had to have had the foresight to start using a fake birth certificate at birth to make sure no other one existed.
I do have a question though, as I seriously do not know the answer and figure this would be as good a place as any to ask since there seem to be a lot of experts on the matter here. Seriously, not sarcastically.
I am currently pregnant and am a natural born American citizen born in the US and lived here all my life. If I go on vacation to a foreign country and give birth there, will my baby be an American Citizen? Or will I have to go through a process to make her a citizen?
If anyone knows the answer, I’d appreciate it. Thanks!

By: runnerin1

runnerin1 — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:40:59 +0000

‘Moderate’ claim things weren’t that bad the last 8 years, and thing just recently went awry. Please, do a little research, before blogging such ridiculous comments.

By: Erika

Erika — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:48:27 +0000

And for a little less serious look at this issue, see “Is this Obama’s real birth certificate?” (WorldNetDaily).

By: Erika

Erika — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:58:00 +0000

Andrew,
Yes, I know that a person doesn’t necessarily have to be born on American soil to be considered “natural-born.” See this article on the question about McCain: “McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out,” (NY Times).
As for Obama, he’s never released his birth certificate. The few media reports on the subject and the judges involved in lawsuits brought about it have never said that he has, either. Instead, he put a so-called official copy on his web site, gave one to Daily Kos and then later to Factcheck. Then, right before the election, Hawaiian officials vouched for him. But no simple release. Doesn’t all that strike you as a little fishy, just on the face of it? Why release it to just a couple of places if there isn’t some problem? And what possible reason could there be for that? If nothing were different except he had been a Republican, perhaps the problem would stand out more.
As for your other points, research them for yourself and see.