Hillary, Sturm undt Drang

sounds good. I have a hard time even wait unitl Hillary except the secratary of state job.

can you tell me what journalistic service you do by informing of this back and forth? … NYtimes just published she accepted – let it be…

I want any reader to know that this is my very first Hillary-bashing in life, ever.
From what I gather, Hillary kinda likes the “what does Hillary want” suspense. Remember the primary speech? Altho I find that a bit repulsive for a public person (no drama, always go with no drama), if that’s what gets her going, then so be it. And I have a feeling the Obama people know and understand the Clinton need for drama which would probably explain why her pick is the one getting most of the hype. So it seems like they understand each other, which is nearly half the work in working together.
On an unrelated subject: JAKE, when are you going to report on Geithner so that I can comment on it like I just found about it from you?

Big mistake for Hillary to accept the SoS job. Obama will ignore her. In the meantime he sidelines both Bill and Hillary.

what are hillarys great achievements—-she could not handle childrens lunch program when willy was in office.

I think both Hillary and Barack like one upping each other. This stuff is not created by Hillary Obama sources leaked info first and never even official said they offered her the position as a matter of fact on CNN Obama sources say that it was never officially offered. So then senate wants to get involved and offer Hillary something to stay on. Its not an easy decision people this is probably the rest of her life we are talking about.

I copied this from another site. I love it:
Always remember the Clintons are not stupid and always remember that they have long memories………..
Chris Matthews, Bob Woodward……….ect. etc. etc….. you may be worshipping at the altar of Obama, but the high priestess is back.
Guess who she is going to fillet.

I hope this report is right. I had more than enough of the Clintons in the 1990s.
We don’t need any more drama either Bill or Hill. And we can’t trust Bill not to undercut Obama every chance he gets.

I agree that enough of the clintons are just ENOUGH!! I thought Obama ran on a change ticket? Where is it? I don’t follow politics as much as I should but even I recognize some of the names being bandied around.
And what background do some of these people being put into high places? Are they cabable of running Homeland Security,Treasury.?

the war in iraq is nothing compared to how the clinton administration sold out our country –and hillary was willys erand person and helped hin do it—nafta and chinese trade agreements were and are devistating

Anyone who voted for Obama in order to get “change” wasn’t thinking straight. His background clearly showed that he’ll do or say anything to win. He got rid of the competition in previous elections based on questionable legal technicalities; he voted “present” instead of taking a stand, etc. I know you all remember that stuff.
One change I’m hoping for: I hope Obama offers Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick a job (Obama’s close friend and also a “change” candidate). That’s the change we need in Massachusetts before Patrick breaks us all with gambling and redistribution of wealth via taxation and higher Mass Pike tolls.

So “undt” would be German?
Why not “andt” in your language then? Would be just as illiterate.

“Sturm und Drang” is one of those German expressions that have come into common use (there is no “t” in “und”, btw). It refers to the “storm and pressures” involved in coming to a final resolution (teenagers experience this as they mature). Another similar word is “angst”.

Anyone who voted for Obama in order to get “change” wasn’t thinking straight. His background clearly showed that he’ll do or say anything to win. He got rid of the competition in previous elections based on questionable legal technicalities; he voted “present” instead of taking a stand, etc. I know you all remember that stuff.
Posted by: tina | Nov 21, 2008 4:58:41 PM
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Yeah, I sure do remember all the Republican BS.
Obama for Change! How so?
1. Giving the boot to Republicans for one. Check.
2. Instilling hope, nationally and globally. Check.
3. Acknowledging and supporting science. Check.
4. Encouraging Unity. Check.
5. Etc. Check.
Positive change has already transpired. End-result change will come in time. Obama’s selecting smart, experienced people for end-result change.

And another tabloid-style article courtesy of Jake Tapper and ABC…..

richardson is much better qualified for the job.
Posted by: josh | Nov 21, 2008 5:48:06 PM
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How so? Anyways, it looks like he may be SOC.

She is a brilliant womean and she will make an amazing Secretary of State. Anyone who covered and listened to her during the campaign knows she has the command of all the issues and has plans and a strategy to carry them out.
i’m very excited to have Hillary Clinton represent my country to the world.

I can only wonder if the new Hillary will sport a new hairdo and wardrobe as well.
Posted by: Robert5000 | Nov 21, 2008 6:45:32 PM
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Why do you wonder about this?

I’m glad that Richardson took the SOC job. Somebody needs to mind the tomato stand. Excellent choice for this position.

I hope I’m not the only one that noticed this. I was seeing this story on the television, and Clinton Advisor Harold Ickes was being interviewed. Apparently someone thought he would look better facing right, so they reversed the video. Not so good when there’s a world globe right next to the man. Florida in the West and California in the East. I wonder how many kids that little faux paus will mess up.

Good choice.

Smart move on Obama’s part–this way she can’t run against him in 2012 without quitting the SOS job. If Obama fails to keep his approval rating over the next fours years or makes any major screw ups, Hillary has the ability to effectively use it against him in the primaries in 2012 and spoil his run for re-election. However, sidelining the Clintons may not solve Obama’s re-election run if the Republicans manage to come up with a candidate that steals the show from him. Remember, the GOP is analyzing why they lost this year and will spend the next four years giving Obama as many migraines as they can. Remember Newt in the 90′s and his constant needling of the Clinton Adminsitration?

We’ve seen so much of this back and forth over the past week, I won’t believe anything until I hear him offer her the job publically.
Frankly, I’d love to see Hillary stay in the Senate and continue fighting for universal health care – 47 million people are counting on her to take this fight all the way to the finish line.
She’s proven time and again over the years that she’s our champion and that she doesn’t give up easily. If anyone can FINALLY get results, it’s Hillary.

Personally, I would like her to stay in the Senate. Independence is good, being a part of O’s rip off of a 3rd Clinton term where she does the work and he gets the credit…no good.

Who replaces her in the Senate? Robert Kennedy Jr? The younger Cuomo (sorry can’t think of his first name)? It’s going to interesting.

Just wait until Hillary gets SOS. She can travel the world setting up profitable deals, and Cigar Bill can come in the back door and sign the contracts. As an add on, he might be able to sell them some shares in White Water Properties. People of the world beware, lock up your daughters, ole Cigar Bill is about.

This explanation makes the most sense to me, Jake. Thanks.
I honestly don’t think Hillary Clinton planned on getting a spot in the Obama administration.
And I for sure don’t think she imagined STATE, so I think this was a shock to her.
Now that John Kerry apparently wanted it (a no-brainer) and was apparently turned down (a surprise), I think I’ve figured out how Clinton got this job:
After the primaries, Barack had everyone campaigning for him — including Kerry, Richardson, Clinton and Clinton. What better way to figure out who can actually move people to action and to come together for a cause that they are not sure they even support (the very job of Sec of State) than to watch these candidates for his cabinet jobs in action.
I think the Clintons showed their greatest strength AFTER the primaries — their loyalty to the cause of making America a better place for everyone, no matter who was on the team helping.
Who helped Barack Obama win the nomination — Kerry, Richardson or Clinton?
After their endorsements of Obama, she still tied him in votes. They didn’t help.
Obama appeared with Bill Clinton in Florida for a major — and unbelievably eloquent — speech about Hope.
The first person he sent to Florida was Hillary.
Hillary in Nevada.
Hillary in PA.
Hillary in OH.
Bill in New Hampshire, THREE straight appearances, all day long, on the Sunday before the election on Tuesday.
Where were Richardson and Kerry those last days?
Once she was out of the race, she never made a mistake in behalf of Obama or the Democratic ticket.
Kerry did.
(The Depends joke was disgustingly un-diplomatic).
And I have no idea where Richardson disappeared to… Hillary Clinton was the one sent to Texas to try to rally Hispanics (which she did).
I also think Obama just laid out the gauntlet to all of us. (Yes, msm and netroots, ALL of us).
I’m a Clinton supporter who still doesn’t understand the cult appeal of Barack Obama.
Obama’s supporters still don’t understand the cult appeal of the Clintons.
Obama just told both groups to get over the cult worship and get to work repairing the damage that The Worst President Ever and The Worst Vice President Ever did to America.
Let’s try, okay?
It’s change everyone who is not a Loyal Bushie can believe in!
Democrats, Republicans, Independents, fiscal conservatives, defense conservatives, and maybe even a few evangelicals…
Let’s rid ourselves of the stench that Bush-Cheney brought to America, by working together for the Common Good.
Congratulations to the Obama TEAM!
It’s going to be a very bright new year this year for everyone in the entire world except the Bush and Cheney families.
Pop the corks!!!!!!

this is a pay back,
obama knows hillary should be president.
he knows she is smarter than he is.
after he OUTSMARTED her in the campaign,
he still realized he needed sen.clinton
and this is the way he thanks her, draws her in, and gets a chance at her brain power

Hillary Clinton makes Sarah Palin look like the princess Snow White.

Madam Secretary-Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the best Secretary of State American has ever had. America will regain its respect with the rest of the world and we will have good relations once again with other nations.
In eight years she will be President Hillary Rodham Clinton. The first woman President. Our best days are still ahead of us all.

After leaving office they have stashed millions in offshore Turks and Caicos bank accounts and continue with their shady dealing. The Clintons have alledged ties to Columbian drug cartels dating to their connection with Arkansas Mena Airport drug trafficing and lobbying for the Columbian government. As chairperson for the India Caucus, Hillary was intrumental in outsourcing millions in US jobs to India. This is not change we can depend on.

Great Choice. Hillary will be fantastic in this role. What an asset for America and the Obama Administration. Well Done.

I copied this from another site. I love it:
Always remember the Clintons are not stupid and always remember that they have long memories………..
Chris Matthews, Bob Woodward……….ect. etc. etc….. you may be worshipping at the altar of Obama, but the high priestess is back.
Guess who she is going to fillet.
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Great blog!

A decision borne of true strength and leadership. Bravo Obama. Hillary Rodham Clinton is near and dear to our hearts here in Iowa. She and I had a conversation when she was campaigning here and I have never been more impressed with a politician in my life and I’ve met a number of them over the years, as you tend to do when living in Iowa.
Hillary will be a SUPERB Secretary of State. She will help make the world love America again. She will make all of us proud.
God bless President-Elect Obama and his beautiful family.

If Secretary of State is a figurehead, I guess Hillary is as good as any. If this is a real job, maybe somebody without the knives out and willing to work for and support Obama, get somebody else. Hillary can’t or won’t do it.

He had to put her someplace. She wasn’t good enough to be VP.

I bet S. Palin is seething with envy. Or I hope so anyway!

The Clintons are capable people without all of the manipulation by media, surragates, and old timers.
I think the Clinton appointment was a bargning chip to get the support that the Obama campaign was convienced it needed to win. To really be “CHANG”, if the Clinton’s chose not to be involved they should have been left alone and the Obama campaign should have taken the risk. I think they would have been suprised.
If the truth was faced, Obama started to move up with women and the working man’s voters before the Clinton drama.
This has the over tones of “calling in favors”.
With the push of the media and the oldtimers there was no trust that the new guy was capable of doing the job.
This is the unspoken evidence of the insidious racism in our country. AND THIS IS NOT THE RACE CARD.