Hillary’s $7.5 Million Problem
ABC News’ Tahman Bradley Reports: Hillary Clinton continues to carry $7.5 million of debt owed to vendors from her failed presidential bid which ended in early June, her campaign finance report covering the month of October shows.
Even though the election is over, Clinton can continue to raise money for unpaid bills, as long as contributors clearly designate their contributions as being specially for retiring presidential campaign debt. There’s no time limit on how long a candidate can carry debt.
The campaign retired a few hundred thousands dollars of debt in October after bringing in $774,299 last month.
Clinton lost all opportunities to get back the $13.1 million in personal money she loaned the campaign. Campaign finance law restricts the amount of time a candidate can pay back personal loans in an effort to limit candidates from self-financing campaigns. Clinton needed to pay herself back by the final day of the Democratic convention.
If Clinton accepts the position of Secretary of State, or some other post in the Obama administration, she would be barred by The Hatch Act of 1939 from soliciting and receiving political contributions. The Clinton campaign organization, however, can continue to raise money for the purpose of retiring debt even if the senator accepts an appointed position in government. Raising a small amount of money from loyal donors without help from Clinton might be doable, but raising $7.5 million without the candidate seems like a tall order.
Campaign finance law is pretty flexible in a candidate’s ability to retire debt after a presidential election is over and a little innovative campaign treasury maneuvering could yield a faster way for Clinton to erase most of the remaining debt. On August 28, Clinton’s Senate account received $6.4 million in contributions that were first designated for the presidential campaign for use in the general election. That money could theoretically be transferred back to the presidential campaign and used to knock out vendor debt.
The Clinton presidential campaign this week was still hunting for help with unpaid bills, sending supporters an e-mail asking for money.

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Maybe we should all help to retire her debt at this point. She has put her own money where her mouth is (finally!) and she did step up to help (not double-cross Obama).
Posted by: Common Sense | November 20, 2008, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Clinton’s debt is her own problem and, frankly, who cares. Clintons are not suffering from lack of finances. Her situation is similar to GM’s. The campaign was mismanaged and failed. Deal with it.
Posted by: J Robinson | November 20, 2008, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
It’s not entirely their fault-the media is obsessed with the Clintons-diverted momentarily by Witless From Wasilla-but
this whole affair has become another Hillary and Bill Drama, at the expense of Obama’s prestige. Putting it bluntly, the world’s in a mess and we can’t afford this distraction. Obama should “cut her loose.”
Posted by: B. Bear | November 20, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
What about the Clinton supporters who said they would turn coat and vote for McCain because their loyalty to Clinton overroad any other issues?
They claimed they retained the better part of her 18 million voters. Obviously they were not willing to go so far with their their loyalty and pony up a few dollars each.
Come on P.U.M.A and Just Say No Deal. Five or ten bucks each and she would have this debt thing behind her.
Posted by: Joe C | November 20, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
just send bill out on the talking circuit. With all his hot air they should be able to easily retire her debt. If not there are a lot of American suckers out there that will send in their children’s food money for her. Or better yet have her go out and get a real job..Paul/Bethesda
Posted by: paul sweeney | November 20, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Wow, I guess this proves she was fit to run the country after all (since it seems that fiscal irresponsibility how this country operates…)
Posted by: Stewie | November 20, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
So Hilary, who, along with her husband, have made over $100 million since Bill left the White House, wants some help paying for $7.5 million worth of debt? Talk about a sense of entitlement…
Posted by: Jake | November 20, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
Gosh, the prima donna syndrome is back with us again! Why the Clintons have to make something out of nothing is again a reminder to why she was defeated in the primaries and why so many of us turned away from supporting her. As for being the SoS, either she wants it, or she will turn it down, but she should quit trying to make her debts a bargaining chip. We are all grown-ups and it’s time for all these infantile games to stop NOW/
Posted by: Sareena Jones | November 20, 2008, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
What happened to the ‘true” Democrats? Isn’t that how Obama Supporters described themselves?
If you are a “true” Democrat, you will help to retire Hillary’s debt.
After all, no one can deny that she worked hard to elect Mr. Obama – far harder, in fact, than any previous defeated rival in a Democratic primary.
Between the unity rally in New Hampshire last June 27 and Election Day, she undertook roughly 130 separate campaign events, including speeches, fund-raisers, press interviews and conference calls all over the country AND brought more than $10 million into the Obama coffers — while her own debt remains unpaid.
Obama said he would help Hillary to retire her debt. His help was mentioning her name at two fund-raisers.
Real “true” Democrat, that Obama. Looks like “support” works one way for him.
All of you claim to be “true” Democrats, but after Hillary was worked damn near to death campaigning for your candidate, your “support” for the Democrat Party only applies if it is for Obama.
Party of Hope, Unity and Change – well,
I’ll believe it when you all put your money where your mouths are!
Posted by: leelee.again | November 20, 2008, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm
Have her 18 million supporters give
her a buck. All talk no action.
Posted by: spacerook1 | November 20, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Your comment says a lot about you and the “New” Democrat Party.
Like Obama, I guess you all are users.
Posted by: leelee.again | November 20, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
You know, I’m sick to death of the villification of Hillary. I don’t know of one other politician who could withstand the same microscopic scrutiny she and Bill have withstood.
The drama surrounding the SOS is purely media driven for ratings. There is no actual drama per se. The media decides to report on every sneeze, ponderance, opinion any and every advisor might have, and report it as “breaking news”! Good grief!
Hillary and Obama had a pledge to one another. Hillary would work hard to get him elected, and he would help to retire her debt, which btw, is customary to do, not atypical! Hillary also raised over $10 million for BO’s campaign. He never followed through on his word, but she did. I know for a fact, I had reservations about BO, and if not for the sincerity Hillary showed while campaigning for him, I was fully prepared to vote against him as a protest vote to the DNC, the RBC, and media. Hillary seemed to really want us, her ardent supporters, to back BO, so I reluctantly did.
People who continue to bash Hillary do not even “know” Hillary. They know an image that was bottled and sold for years ad nauseum. I’d put Hillary’s integrity, intelligence, stamina, compassion, passion, loyalty, and work ethic up against any other national political figure.
Posted by: kmb08 | November 20, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
She can just have Slick Willie give a speech to a bunch of retired Florida snowbirds and he can help her make up the campaign deficit. She can also hit up some fellow leftist illuminati cabinet members so she won’t have to tap into the multi millions that she and Bill have in the bank.
Posted by: Jeff | November 20, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
And another thing: With regard to the millions the Clintons “earned”, they paid more in taxes and gave more to charity than most others do in their tax bracket. The Obama’s gave a piddly 3% to charity from their millions earned. What will you all say when Obama gets out of office and begans to earn hundreds of millions?? Will you all be just as dispicable as you are to the Clintons?!?!
Posted by: kmb08 | November 20, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Here is a better idea – why don’t Obama just give her back that $10 million she raised for him? Only one part of the bargain was completed – her part. Obama did not follow through on his part, so he should give her the money back so she can retire her debt. Obama has plenty of money, he can afford to give it back.
Posted by: leelee.again | November 20, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Yes leelee, good point! Obama also received $200 million in campaign donations that have come under suspicious fundraising, so maybe he could tap those questionable sources…
Posted by: kmb08 | November 20, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Once again our American system at work. How dare the Clintons ask for one red cent. They have milked the taxpayer for a number of years and believe me they can afford to pay their 7.5 million dollar debt alot easier than most people that are hurting with the economy that the Demorcats have caused over the last 2 years. You Bush bashers can cry all you want but GW did not cause this…..Pelosi, Clinton, Waxman, Harry Reed….they are all Democrats…Wake UP AMERICA!!! But dont worry….Once Obama gets in office then we will be back in the days of Jimmy Carter…..soft on National security and interest rates of over 21%….Now thats change!!
Posted by: Mike Litaker | November 20, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Lol kmb08- You are right, although I know he is trying to spend that money as fast as he can before the cops come knocking to confiscate those questionable funds. :D
Posted by: leelee.again | November 20, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
I feel her pain!!!! We have problems making mortgage and monthly bills which is considerably much less her $7.5 million. But she could lobby the Senate for a minimum of $20,000 stimulus check to each working taxpayer to help them pay bills and out money back into the economy. The average “Joe The Plumber” is having a hard time making their bills. We need to take care of those people who are supporting the government by paying their taxes.
But she still got to campaign for President and still receive her salary as a senator(did she work all those months for her salary???) and got to solicit campaign donations. We all need to be in politics. Maybe her and Former President Bill Clinton would like to donate $10,000 to our charitable cause. That would be would be a good will donation to helping out a distressed homeowner in the Midwest.
Posted by: kteske | November 20, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Obama also received his salary as a Senator and is also a multi-millionaire.
Quit making excuses for Obama. He made a pledge, he should follow through on it.
The Clintons’ personal finances have nothing to do with this. Obama gave his word – he should keep it.
But then again, it is Obama we are talking about – just another failed promise on his part.
Posted by: leelee.again | November 20, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
I am in debt too. So what. Pay your bills Clinton.
Posted by: Sara | November 20, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
NObama raised a record amount of money. Let the “messiah” contribute. She ain’t getting a single penny from me.
Posted by: MyFellowAmericans | November 20, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Maybe she should ask for a government bailout. har har!
Posted by: Jason | November 20, 2008, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Hey LeeLee,
Once again I have to agree with your perspective. Obama has yet to prove anything, the least he could do is keep his word to Hillary, or basically he’s word is worth nothing. That’s pretty much the best we can expect from him based on his actions so far, nothing.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | November 20, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Let Obama give Hillary her 10 million back – he did not keep his part of the deal, so he should give it back.
You can hate on Hillary all you want, but one thing is for sure, during this election, Hillary WAS a “true” Democrat and she showed it by campaigning her heart out for Obama.
You can ignore that fact if you want and make all the smart remarks you want, no biggie.
Obama should not have to rely on his Supporters excuses for him or their distraction attacks on Hillary to cover up for his inaction and dishonesty.
The one fact that is indisputable in this matter is that Obama should be man enough and honorable enough to keep his given word.
Posted by: leelee.again | November 20, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Mrs. Clinton incurred the debt. It is her personal responsibility to repay it. Just like every other citizen.
In regards to the country’s financial crisis. Business are being force to reduce operating expenses and even cut salaries. Maybe our elected representative should lead by example and cut their pay and operating expenses by %60 or better and put those funds back into the economy? Naa it will never happen.
Posted by: Average American | November 20, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
WestCoastMessenger – Wow, it’s been a while!
Looks like we might want to hang on – the next 4 years are going to be a real bumpy ride!
Posted by: leelee.again | November 20, 2008, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Average American – I agree with your second paragraph.
However, I stand by the fact that Obama should pay up for services rendered.
Posted by: leelee.again | November 20, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
In regards to President elect Obama. He is not America’s first black president. He is America’s first mulatto president”
“a person whose ancestry is a mixture of Negro and Caucasian” dictionary.com.
Why has little attention been paid to his “white” side? If racial issues tend to dived people, Why is so much attention given to the President Elects race? What the country needs is a leader of unprecedented honesty, integrity, humility and well in-tune with the working man.
Posted by: Average American | November 20, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
Others running in the election quit when they ran out of money. Not Clinton, she stayed in knowing she wasn’t going to pay or maybe thinking Richard Melon Scaiffe would pull her out. WHY else did she go to him? If she had 18,000,000 that she say’s voted for her, why didn’t they support her with money, IF they wanted her to stay in? Matter of fact if those 18,000,000 sent her ONE dollar now, she would be out of debt, plus have some left over. What happened to her P.U.M.A supporters? (Put UP Money Are) shut up. Couldn’t they have done a fund raising for her? This is rediculous. They sound like beggers.They sure didn’t manage their finances well. AS many big problems that we are having after the last eight years what happened? All of the big CEO’s that got the tax breaks are the ones that are broke and begging us for help? And are they the first ones to help the ones that really need it? No, they call that a bleeding heart liberal. Now they aren’t ashamed to ask them for “help?” Just where is it going?
Posted by: Aly | November 21, 2008, 12:51 am 12:51 am
Hillary supporters should understand that many of Obama’s supporters did contribute to Hillary’s debt retirement. Unfortunately, there have been many financial needs for the Party that have been crucially important. I’ve donated many times to Obama,the DSCC and the DCCC as well as to individual campaigns that were important around the country such as the Senate races in Minnesota and Georgia. I have also donated to Mrs. Clinton several times, but not in the amounts I might have if the needs of the general election were less. I’m a single nurse. I’ve never donated to any political campaign before this year and I didn’t do it just because I thought Obama was a great candidate (though he is). I did it because I had become very, very worried about what was happening to my country. I’ve sacrificed and done without a lot of things to be able to do this. I’m not the only one. It would be nice if once in a while a few of Hillary’s supporters would recognize that we did the best we could for her while simultaneously fighting a hard fought general election. I’m tapped out and tired. If there are those who have sacrificed less over the past year or two, it would really be nice if some of you could step up to the bat and take a turn. Obama had 3 million people who donated, but there are 300 million Americans. Some of the other 99% of the country might like to hold up the tent for a little while and let the weary warriors rest a bit. Thanks
p.s. I’m not even a Democrat, but I’m glad I helped.
Posted by: karela | November 21, 2008, 4:03 am 4:03 am
When you read these comments you have no idea about the motives of the person talking.
“Let Obama give Hillary her 10 million back – he did not keep his part of the deal, so he should give it back.”
Wow, you might say that Obama is a mean man or you might say the person who posted that is a lying partisan hack who cares nothing for facts. Facts like the fact that Obama can not donate more than anyone else can to another candidates campaign.
Posted by: one thing | November 21, 2008, 4:08 am 4:08 am
People are losing jobs and holding back on buying christmas presents. writing a check to a rich politician (clintons made 100 mil in 8 years) is the last thing i would do.
Posted by: Kumar | November 21, 2008, 4:29 am 4:29 am
Once again, (still) the Clintons are thumbing their noses at playing by the rules and daring someone to make them do the right thing and pay the vendors who extended credit to her campaign. They need to be GONE.
Posted by: james | November 21, 2008, 6:53 am 6:53 am
Why don’t the Clintons just pay it themselve’s” Who cares. They will still be eating lobster for brunch. Still fly anywhere in the world on a whim. Still have armed guards on hand protected them. Still have more money than they can shake a stick at. Still leave plenty of money when they die to their daughter. Please stop begging for money. Pay it off. Bill can do a few lectures and make it all back. Quit asking the poor and middle class for money. How disgusting.
Posted by: Jerry in Northern CA | November 21, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am
When Bill and Hillary first ran I voted for them. I really didn’t have that much of a choice. Deep inside there was a sneaky element to the Clintons. Sorry, but I just don’t trust either of them. Yes, they campaigned for Obama and believe me, it wasn’t because they had any love or respect for PE Obama. They had to unite the party. It was to their interest. To be honest, I can understand that. But, I don’t feel sorry for the Clintons. By the way, I contributed a little money to Hillary’s campaign to retire her debt because PE Obama wanted his supporters to do so.
I don’t dislike the Clintons, I just don’t trust them.
Posted by: Carol | November 21, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Bill Richardson is much more qualified to be Sec’y of State than Hillary “Tuzla Dash” Clinton.
Posted by: Clintonista | November 21, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Most of the money is owed to Mark Penn, the Clinton campaign chief strategist who is responsible for advising her to throw the kitchen sink at Barack Obama after it was clear that she could not win enough delegates to get the nomination.
That’s why the small donors who gave PE Obama his campaign funds do not want to pay Mark Penn’s bill. Barack will need all of us small donors in 2010 and we are not likely to want a dime of our hard earned dollars going to pay Penn.
If Barack had lost, Hillary would not be asked to pay David Axelrod’s bill. Instead, the Obama nation would have gladly retired the campaign debt even if we had to send $5 every month.
Posted by: Michaele | November 21, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
I really don’t understand this at all. I think it’s more than Hillary needing $7.5 million dollars. Are they, (the Clintons) BROKE? I received a letter from Hillary asking to help after she had lost and chipped in. How rediculous on my part. Don’t you think a lot of people did? And they still need $7.5 million? $7.5 million dollars and she can’t get it from her supporters? BTW, why does she need that? Is she losing her home or what? This is crazy!
Posted by: Aly | November 21, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
I for one will continue to contribute to the first women to take on that glass wall of moving women on in this country.
If you do not look at MSBNC and CNN to tell you what you think and think for yourselves, 7.5 is a small price to pay
Posted by: alorick | November 21, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
I heard it from Hillary. I didn’t hear it from the other 6 that decided to drop out because they ran out of money, not one time!
Posted by: Aly | November 21, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
If Hillary would have stopped campaigning when she ran out of moeny like the rest of the other Demacratic hopefulls, she wouldn’t be in this mess.
If Hillary felt she needed to stretch out the Democratic primaries past the point of rediculous on credit, I feel she deserves to find a way to pay it back. Lesson learned.
Posted by: Nate | November 21, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Come on, Dems help the Lady out…remember, “sharing is caring”!
:-)
Posted by: Grand Old Party | November 21, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
Hillary was well within her rights to run as long as she did and take it to the convention if she so desired. Just like Kennedy and Jackson.
It is customary for the nominee to retire the losing candidate’s debt. Maybe Obama, being a “New Democrat” just does not know how to be a gracious winner. Or maybe, with all those millions left over, he is just being cheap.
He’s already distanced himself from the Democratic leadership as well. After they selected the unqualified, unvetted guy—because, in part, they thought he would be an ATM for the Party—they, too, have been left in the cold. Cash-flush Obama turned down Harry Reid’s appeal for money to help grow the Senate majority. Neither could their selectee find any pre-election time to do joint fund-raisers with Senate or House Democrats.
This is unsettling not just because it echoes his refusal to help Hillary Clinton pay down her campaign debt (while still expecting her to win it for him without giving her credit for doing so), but also because what POTUS doesn’t want the strongest possible majority to move his agenda
You can bet if the shoe was on the other foot, Hillary would have done the right thing and paid off her opponent’s outstanding campaign debt.
Obama made a bargain with Hillary. She fulfilled her part, so he needs to do his part and do what he promised he would do – help her to pay off her debt. If he didn’t want to help her to pay it off, he should have not made the bargain with her. Well, I guess that means he lied – again.
Obama has enough money left in his coffers (including the $10 million she brought in for him) to do what he promised to do. It is only right.
Posted by: leelee.again | November 21, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
That’s rediculous! The Obama supporters were happy to send him the money because they wanted him to be the president. Why didn’t Dodd, Biden, Edwards, Kucinich and the one in Alaska all stay in and ask for the same thing? Why did they get out of the election? They had the same right. THey just ran out of money. If Obama had ran out of the money, he would have done what the others did. I still think Hillary went to see Richard Melon Scaiffe for some reason. The one that paid to tear the Clintons down in the 90′s and then he endorsed her. He has enough to try and ruin them, he can sure help her now. Hillary basically endorsed McCain during the primaries. That I’ve never seen in politics before, ever.She used to be my favorite.
Posted by: Aly | November 21, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Not ridiculous at all. You must be a “New” Democrat.
Obama should give Hillary back the $10 million she earned for him. It is wrong of him to keep it when he did not uphold his end of the bargain.
Fair is fair.
You might also take note of what I wrote about how he treated other members of his party.
The fact that he blatantly lied to her and used her to further his campaign speaks to his lack of character.
Your defending him when he is so clearly in the wrong does not speak well for your own character.
Pity.
Posted by: leelee.again | November 21, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Make her pay off the debt from her own personal money. I would love to see a woman president but not her. If she doesn’t have enough respect for herself to leave her cheating husband then I don’t have any respect for her to run our country.
Posted by: NoHillary | November 21, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
Just because you don’t like her does not excuse Obama’s not fulfilling his promise.
Furthermore, Obama reportedly has had a few affairs himself. Are you applying the same standards to him? To Michelle?
Nah, probably not. This is 2008, not 1808 – women can choose to stay married or not without consulting anyone else for their approval. Get over it, it happened many years ago and it didn’t even happen to you. LMAO!
Posted by: leelee.again | November 21, 2008, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
It must just chap you that she didn’t get enough from her supporters!
Posted by: Aly | November 22, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
She never should have gone that far in debt during the campaign. It displays a recklessness we frankly don’t need in our national leaders. She should pay the money back herself, as I assume the family has the resources to do so.
Posted by: Paul | November 22, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
As someone who supported Hillary Clinton and wanted her to fight on, I felt it was my personal responsibility to help where I could, even after the campaign was lost. There were many people driving her on.
She’s lost over $13.2 million of her own money. That’s a big bite for anyone to take.
Also the Clinton’s have donated millions and because of their foundation have raised north of $100 million dollars.
Just because someone else is wealthy, doesn’t mean their human. And just because someone is wealthy, doesn’t mean it’s on the back of the poor as long as they contribute to society. (It’s the people such as Enron who did it on the back of the poor. Not everyone is like that.)
Posted by: Greg | November 22, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
correction. I meant to day “doesn’t mean their NOT human.”
Posted by: Greg | November 22, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
If Mrs. Clinton had conceded in April, when it was obvious that it was mathematically impossible for her to win the nomination, she would not have incurred the additional debts that accrued as she pursued a unattainable goal. The debt was a result of her own selfish and egotistical ambition and she should not be bailed out for her ill advised behavior.
Posted by: WawaLisa | November 22, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Hillary should have called into the Suzie Orman show to see if she could afford to run a presidential campaign. Suzie’s response would be: “You have been DENIED”!!
Posted by: Jeff W. | November 22, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
The election is over. Obama has money left over – millions. So Obama Supporters do not need to contribute any more of their money. Meanwhile, Obama needs to give Hillary her money back – all $10 million of it. After all, she worked for it, not Obama.
People on this blog continue to trash Hillary who, at least, kept her promise, yet say nothing about Obama’s lying and using her and other people.
They can’t say enough bad things about Hillary, yet they excuse everything Obama does, no matter how bad it is.
Rather than address Obama’s poor behavior, they use “distraction” arguments about Hillary and what She should do or not do.
The issue is, and let’s stay focused here, is that Obama entered into a bargain with Hillary. He got what he wanted, but once that was done, decided to welsh on his part of it.
It is amazing to me that none of the Obama Supporters bothered to even mentioned anything about what else I wrote, how he stiffed the Democratic Party after they helped him to win, even to the point of taking delegates from Hillary and giving them to him.
I guess it is a good thing that Obama is not a businessman.
Posted by: leelee.again | November 22, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Oh please, Obama made a promise to help retire her debt if she campaigned for him. She followed through, he didn’t as usual.
He did not raise almost $700B for this election by small donations that is such BS. if the economy is so bad and so many people struggling to keep their jobs and hoses that money did not come from the average person. You all believe what you want, however there is no way the average person could afford to send an do nothing, nobody junior senator with no record, $700B for a presidential election. And if you all did then, if you lose your house or whatever you deserve it. Obama has never kept his word on anything in his career, he has never brought about any change in his career, yet you all bought that change BS. All he cares about is how high he can climb up the power ladder. Thin resume and all, you people gave it to him. The dumbing down of America.
Posted by: Cathy6224 | November 23, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am
You all weren’t bashing Hillary Clinton when she was campainging hard for Obama. Now that he won, its back to bashing her? You are all hypocrites who believe Obama will accomplish something. I certainly believe he has the potential to go down in history as the first president (in a long time) working truly for the people, however I don’t think he will do that, he will just do what he is told, because he doesn’t take a stand on anything until he is told what he should think. If I am wrong about him I will apologize. In the meantime, layoff the Clinton Bashing you all are sad.
Posted by: Cathy6224 | November 23, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
leelee: “The issue is, and let’s stay focused here, is that Obama entered into a bargain with Hillary.”
Agree with staying focused, but disagree with what you say the “issue” here really is.
To me, the issue is that Clinton was not fiscally responsible as a candidate. Period. She ran up her debt.
Her debt – her responsibility. And Obama did help her. I know I got at least three fundraising e-mails from the Obama campaign asking me to donate to Clinton. I decided not to donate. Don’t know what anyone else decided.
And by the way, many Clinton supporters continue to rail against the Clinton bashing. Read the above posts. There is just as much Obama bashing by Clinton supporters, if not more, as there is Clinton bashing by Obama supporters.
And that’s fine. Its politics. Its not mature politics, but its politics. To all sides, I say bash away if that’s the level of your thinking. But please don’t whine about your sensitivities to the Clinton bashing when in the same post you are bashing Obama, who now is our president-elect. I mean, of course you are free to do that, but remember the rest of us are free to roll our eyes at it.
Posted by: Paul | November 23, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am
leelee: “I guess it is a good thing that Obama is not a businessman.”
I don’t know. Seems to me Obama knows how to assemble a team that can handle money and think in terms of cost-benefit analysis, strategic planning, etc.
And, you know, its funny. A big part of business is selling. Most of our CEOs – they aren’t accountants who rose through the ranks. They started in sales. I thought one of the Obama bashing themes is that he’s someone who sold the nation a bill of goods. If that’s true, then it would seem he’d do very well in business.
Posted by: Paul | November 23, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
No, the issue IS that Obama entered into an agreement with Hillary. Don’t try to spin it any differently.
I bash Obama because he bailed out on the deal after he got what he wanted. Obama did wrong and despite the fact that his supporters do not like Hillary the fact is that HE is the one who made the deal with Hillary, regardless of how they feel.
Yes, the issue is that he did not do his part, but got paid anyway.
That’s not politics – that’s just plain wrong.
No more excuses, please, about what Clinton “should have done.” The fact of the matter is that Obama entered into the deal, despite what “Clinton should have done.”
That means he should have upheld his
end of the bargain. If he was a businessman and did stunts like that, he would very soon be lacking in business.
No one wants to deal with a crook.
Posted by: leelee.again | November 23, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
leelee – what exactly is it you think Obama agreed to do?
And the issue is that Clinton didn’t manage her campaign finances, regardless how you try to spin it.
Posted by: Paul | November 23, 2008, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
That’s just the cost of doing business as a politician and Hillary should just pay off the debt herself. The Clinton’s did report assets exceeding $100,000,000 during the campaign so they can well afford it. Besides, she brought most of this on herself by refusing to drop out of the campaign when her camp was out of money and when it was obvious that Obama was going to win. She’s beginning to look greedy.
Posted by: Drew Hoffman | November 24, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am
Strikes me as a narrow escape for America – hard to balance a nation’s books when you can’t stay above water during a well-supported campaign.
Posted by: Matthew Pearson | November 24, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
AFTER 73 APPEARANCES FOR OBAMA , HE COULD NOT PAY HER DEBT WITH HIS QUESTIONABLE $700 MILLION IN CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION.
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | November 24, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Enough already. I’m sure Senator Hillary Clinton and President-elect Obama have worked this whole thing out. This is why I like President-elect Obama, he doesn’t waste his time on petty stuff. While most people are bickering and dealing in he said, she said, President-elect Obama is working on his 10th project. This is why we have the problems we have now is because most people just sit around and bicker and heckle and don’t get a darn thing done. Viva el Presidente-elect Obama because he is a visionary leader and knows how to not let this or that keep him from what he has to do.
My question to all Americans is, “What are you doing to help make America and the world better?” Having said that, I rest my case. Have a very happy day!
Posted by: Luvenia C. Coleman | November 25, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am
I am so sick of people dissing the Clintons. She is not getting back the money she lent herself this will not line her pockets. All she is doing is continuing to raise money like she is allowed to. Barack raised millions with fundraising and he is STILL fundraising and the election is over why cant Hillary continue to fundraise without beign villified.
Posted by: rachel | November 25, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
So how much does the Sec’y. of State gig pay…maybe she could go on a payment plan!
I thought she owed the money (or most of it) to Mark Penn…just tell Mark to go pound salt…
This is ridiculous.
Posted by: 818 | November 25, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
The “New” Democratic Party.
Enough said.
Posted by: leelee.again | November 25, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
He did both and that is all he can do.
Where are her big money backers now?
PUMA? The women who bash Obama? 18 million cracks in the ceiling but they do not donate 1 $ each to pay off the debt?
Obama’s vaunted fundraising operation hasn’t reciprocated by planning new events or an Internet campaign to help Clinton pay off the $7.9 million
OBAMA gave the maximum he could under the law for donations. He gives 20% to Charity. It is mccain who gives 3% and that is to his own Foundation.
It should be 1.1 mil according to the above article. READ:
Clinton’s Senate account received $6.4 million in contributions that were first designated for the presidential campaign for use in the general election.That money could theoretically be transferred back to the presidential campaign and used to knock out vendor debt.
Posted by: Katerina Deligiannis | December 3, 2008, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm