How About Never — Is Never Good For You?

Great image, Jake. Never doesn’t really work for me, though, unless we’re talking about Palin never making it to the White House.
This woman is the most opaque Veep candidate ever, all the while talking about how open she is. I’ve had enough of Cheney’s non-disclosures, and executive privilege invoked to cover up the nations’ interests.

Obama Khalidi tape? Is never good for you?

I’m guessing they’ve decided to wait to see if she wins or not.
Women’s medical records are quite…detailed. You know, the OBGyn stuff is pretty personal.
At this point, why not wait to see if it’s even necessary before she has to put all of that out in public?

RELEASE THE RECORDS
how can she get away with this??? i mean what is she hiding?

I’m thinkinn’ maybe there’s an abortion on the record that they need to purge???

maybe she should have her doctor write a letter like Obama did.

Never is fine with me. All Obama submitted was a one page letter saying he was in good health. Why should Sarah Palin have to provide the Obama loving MSM with private information.

Sarah Palin looks pretty healthy to me. In fact I can’t think of very many people who look that healthy and have that much energy. And I think pretty much every woman in American knows why those records have not been released.
Leave her alone. She never should have promised them to begin with.

Palin will probably go back to Alaska soon. She can gave quality time with the kids by gazing at the sky, looking for those Russian planes that are red with scythes.

I would like to see them. Hay, you run for high office of our Nation, nothing should be overlooked.

Whats up with this is she trying to hide a secret is something in the closet in Alaska,what is she afraid of?

Just for comparison, did Hillary Clinton ever release her medical records?
I really think it’s different for women.

Something big has to be there. Why else would they hide everything?

I can’t believe the venom that Sarah Palin garners. Bad enough that Kos nutters question Trig’s paternity, but now there are secret abortions that she’s hiding? Based on what, praytell? Your fine sleuthing into Obama and his past? A one page letter for the guy in the one slot is A-OK, but the woman in the two slot..sorry, she gets pure hatred.
Honestly, I’ve followed this election closer than any in my lifetime and knew the political climate was fractured, but had no idea it had gotten so volatile.
If there was anything more than conjecture to back your accusations, trust me, the Obama squad would have had some full donation making spy sharing it with you via HuffPo.

Prozac…zoloft…?

geevill, Khalidi got money from McCain, so stop crying!!

So much for that new form of transparency/open book she was bringing to Washington! What a joke this woman is! WHAT ARE YOU HIDING SARAH?

“pretty much every woman in American knows why those records have not been released.”
yes and every man also, something is in there that would make her look bad.
neo-cons always try and hide in the dark corners, they do just worse work there.

That we have a potential vice president who’s never done a sunday interview show or given a press conference; who blatantly lied in her introductory speech to the American people (bridge to nowhere); and who has made serious factual errors almost every time she opens her mouth is a fact that truly terrifies me. Palin thinks she’s been wrongly hounded by the press. She’s damn lucky she got off so easy.

good- I hope it’s a one page Dr’s note. I’m required to send more than that for my 9 year old. Why are you so interested in her report, so the media can start telling the world how many pap smears and yeast infections she may have. We have seen how vicious the media has been on her, why should she open herself up to foolishness that you would not even look at for the male candidates. I don’t give her wrong.

Can someone say… Abortion?

karen: “how about Biden’s records? how about O’Bama’s records? I mean other than his one sheet that says he’s fine and this is acceptable. When will the bias end.”
So Palin released a one sheet summary with test results from her doctor (who would lose their professional license and livelihood if revealed to be lying)? And Obama and Biden both agreed during a televised interview to release their records?
If that’s the case, you’re right. If neither of the above are true, the cases are not similar and you are just making up something to whine about.

Jeff said, “The media bias has destroyed our country.”
I love this kind of hyperbole. Our country, destroyed, burning, crumbling in ruins, and all that’s left is enough power and technology to power ABC News blog sites…
I’ve have about 1 billion times too much exaggeration this election cycle.

How about a psychological exam of Obama to see why he is so in love with himself?
And to see why he is so thin-skinned and cannot handle criticism.
Or to see why Obama/Biden crave the spotlight so much?

she’s lucky to HAVE medical records. some of us can’t get health insurance and don’t have a doctor.

For the ones saying a women’s medical records are different, give me a break. If a man’s medical records mentions a normal sized prostate, you know how the doctor figured that one out. There is nothing in a women’s medical record that is any more personal than a man’s. Also to the one saying Hillary did not release her’s, Hillary did not get the nomination, so did not have to release her records.
The main point of the problem is that Palin claims she is open and honest, but then does not release her medical records after saying they will be released. And I am sure if the McCain campaign asked for the records, it would not take over a week to get the proper forms filled out and the files copied.
(And before people claim sexism. I am a woman.)

Have you ever tried to round up all the medical documents. I have done it and it takes over a month.
You can’t just do it.
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I would imagine that a VICE PRESIDENTIAL candidate might have a little more pull that you do. (Even one like Palin)
Doctors can get records in hours if needed.
It’s the fact she once again LIED to the camera. Surprised she didn’t wink.
Probably just a boob job or something. Doubt there’s anything really scandalous.
But hiding it after syaing you’re an “open book” leads people to think there’s a few chapters missing.

I don’t care about her medical records. There are more obvious problems with a Palin candidacy than her health. Like her inane views on foreign and domestic policy.
Worrying about her medical records is like telling a crack addict they should really think about cutting back on tobacco.

We got lots of detail about Bill Clinton’s private medical information while he was president…

Libs are worried about medical records? You should be worried about BHO’s radical affiliations. Probably would have been a good idea to vet that. Ah, what the heck, who cares. He is the U.S. savior. Anybody see his new pastor from Trinity on the trail with him?? Priceless

Obama Khalidi tape? Is never good for you?
Posted by: geevill
Mac gave a lot of money to Khalidi. Records, please! Is never good for you?;)))

You don’t suppose she doesn’t want to admit that she got absolutely ZERO prenatal care while she was hiding her last pregnancy. Not exactly a formula for family values, that.

Say, Jake, did Obama (D-ACORN) ever turn over anything more than a single page on his medical history? Well, no
Did Crazy Joe turn over his medical records concerning his history of aneurysms? Well, No.

So good thing me and my family decided to vote for Obama/Biden. We went for early voting here in Texas last friday.Otherwise we would regret voting for McCain/Palin when her medical records will be released because America will know how a big Liar this snakewoman in Alaska is.

“Anybody see his new pastor from Trinity on the trail with him?? Priceless..”
Posted by: jody
How about this pastor served this country as a soldier? Is it good enough for you, Princess..? Bush or Cheney were chickens during Vietnam but I am sure you voted for them.
How about 1st Amendment? Maybe Mr. Wright doesn’t have this right, from your point of view?

Ohh, let Palin have her birth control pills alone. She’s born five children for Heaven’Sake!

I am not worried about Palin’s medical record as such. I am just worried that maybe she is again hiding or lying about something that she doesn’t want anyone to know about her medical history.

Perhaps there may be an abortion tucked in there. Or, perhaps some “mental health” issue that almost all families deal with — but Palin would probably see that as some sort of weakness.

My cats and I have been watching Faux News all morning.
Apparently Rush Limbaugh has got some new poll numbers and it’s looking reel good fer McCane.
Don’t ya just wish Rush would run? Rush would win this thing…

Did Sarah Palin have a secret abortion? That is the only thing that could hurt her if she releases her medical reports.

billthomson: “Shouldn’t have agreed to it if she didn’t want to provide anything though.”
This is the big deal to me – she can’t even handle a reporter without getting browbeaten into a lie. Obama or McCain would never agree to something they did not want to do in this manner. Do you want Palin sitting across the table from Putin? Or even Gordon Brown for that matter.

a) Abortion
b) STD
c) Not her baby
d) Mental health issues
e) Sex change
f) All of the above

Oxycon: “”Never” is apparently good enough for the Obama supporters when it comes to the disappearance of his Illinois state records, his college records and his medical records, why should different standards be applied to his opponents?
We all want to be treated equal in this country, right?”
His Illinois state records, over 3000 votes, are open for anyone to peruse. So there’s a lie. John McCain has refused to make public his Academy records too, so there you are applying a different standard to Obama – not a lie, just hypocrisy. And as already noted over and over in this thread, most would be fine with Palin simply offering the same basic summary and recent test results (endorsed with the weight of her physician’s license) as Obama did.
So lets take score: One lie, one case of holding Obama to a much tougher standard than McCain, and one case of incredibly poor reading comprehension. All in one sentence.
As I believe the election is pretty much decided at this point, I really am just here for the amusement value and I have to say you didn’t fail me in that post!

I guess Never is good enough for Obama’s medical records so why not Palin’s?

LIES she was in the mental ward and does not want anyone to know this….

How about the presidential candidate, Obama, only releasing a brief statement of “He is in good health” from his doctor!
Forget the silly stuff!
Vote wisely!
Which is better for our economy: Obama redistributing our wealth or McCain growing more wealth?
Obama will take more money from the Americans who already pay the great majority of income taxes and “spread the wealth” to many who don’t even pay taxes to begin with in the form of a government check.
Obama thinks it is his right to redistribute wealth, but it certainly isn’t the view of the average American worker, and it is obviously wrong.
McCain thinks the way for America to prosper is to leave Americans with more of their income, allowing them to do what they do best — create the businesses, jobs, and opportunities that drive our vast economy.
Government has to be paid for, and that money comes from guys like Joe the plumber. Politicians can either bleed him dry to fund their programs, or they can encourage Americans to create more jobs and more wealth – and keep government limited and effective.
Obama does not include survivors of botched abortions in his “the least of these!”
It is your choice!
This former democrat and Hillary supporter voted for McCain/Palin 08! They are America’s only choice for authentic reform!

I say she has Mental Issuses or a learning Disability it did take her 4 colleges and 6 years to get a degree

tiaa: McCain has proposed the exact same cap and trade type of scheme. About three years ago, George Voinovich (R) of Ohio said, “The McCain amendment will put coal out of business by forcing fuel switching to natural gas.” This was in reference to an amendment by McCain to institute a similar cap and trade scheme as Obama was discussing.
Republicans count on their base to be ignorant of reality.

It’s pay back time baby,can you feel it. For the Iraq war, Wall Street, free trade, NAFTA, the bail out, opened border, illegal immigration, hundreds of billions in foregin aid, and for giving us the finger the last eight years. Yeah we put you in office and now it’s pay back time, @#%$#$%#$.
Ex Republican

Obama’s birth certificate. Is Never good for you Jake?

no need to be rude JR.. that one sheet said exactly that.. nothing!

“Video: Obama scratches mouth with middle finger, earns banner treatment on Drudge”
This time it is for McCain. Not the two times he did it to Clinton. and yes again it was in front of a crowd of black people. Obama and his Will Smith MIB flip the bird move.

Leds one to ponder if the humor of the baby being her daughters is true. Perhaps theres no birth reported after Piper…..hummmmmmm.
If she had nothing to hid then she should not have promised to release them.
Lets face it she is always opening her mouth and inserting her foot. I can not imagine how she got where she is today….I just hope she goes away. If I never hear her name again that would be GREAT.

If there were a significant health issue in regard to Gov. Palin then the army of invetigators the Democrats sent to Alaska would have uncoverred it.
But nice try, anyway. Now you can all go back to ferreting through Joe the Plumber’s trash cans.

Sarah Palin keeps proving herself a liar. Like after she was sited for having an ethics violation and had the gall to say it vindicated her, do she live in an alternate universe?

karen: “no need to be rude JR.. that one sheet said exactly that.. nothing!”
Why can’t Palin release a similar nothing? All it takes is something similar to what Obama released and a licensed doctor signing it (putting their professional license and integrity behind the statements). A little excerpt of that “exactly nothing” below so readers can decide for themselves actually how much credibility to put in your words and opinion.
“The following is a summary of his medical records for the past 21 years.
During that period of time, Senator Obama has been in excellent health…On physical examination, his blood pressure was 90/60 and pulse 60/minute… His physical examination was completely normal.
Laboratory studies included triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.”

Guess the tricksters haven’t had enough time to ‘doctor’ up poor Sarah’s records, or else haven’t figured out how to do it without getting caught.

geevill: “Obama’s Columbia records.Is never good for you Jake?”
How about at the same time McCain releases his Academy records? Or his military records? Is that good for you geevill?

It is odd so much interest in medical history. Of the four running for office more questions about Obama not releasing his medical records—maybe due to heavy smoking habit or results from drug use which he admitted to. Joe Biden had several anyurisms which may attribute to his thought process resulting in multiple gaffes. Both would be very worrisome running the country. John McCain does seem to be the most honest and forthright, makes sense when he speaks and really loves America with no question. Sarah Palin seems to be in great health and vigorous in presenting facts that should concern us. Her medical records have been released I heard.

Palin does not matter anymore, she has already lost the election for McCain.
I say she had or has a medical issue that won’t be known until after the election. And a note from a doctor would be good enough, but she can’t even get that..VP..I don’t think so!

Mike Carey, president of the Ohio Coal Association (OCA), today issued the following statement in response to just-released remarks from Senator Barack Obama about the nation’s coal industry.
“Regardless of the timing or method of the release of these remarks, the message from the Democratic candidate for President could not be clearer: the Obama-Biden ticket spells disaster for America’s coal industry and the tens of thousands of Americans who work in it.
“These undisputed, audio-taped remarks, which include comments from Senator Obama like ‘I haven’t been some coal booster’ and ‘if they want to build [coal plants], they can, but it will bankrupt them’ are extraordinarily misguided.
“It’s evident that this campaign has been pandering in states like Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Indiana and Pennsylvania to attempt to generate votes from coal supporters, while keeping his true agenda hidden from the state’s voters.
“Senator Obama has revealed himself to be nothing more than a short- sighted, inexperienced politician willing to say anything to get a vote. But today, the nation’s coal industry and those who support it have a better understanding of his true mission, to ‘bankrupt’ our industry, put tens of thousands out of work and cause unprecedented increases in electricity prices.
“In addition to providing an affordable, reliable source of low-cost electricity, domestic coal holds the key to our nation’s long-term energy security – a goal that cannot be overlooked during this time of international instability and economic uncertainty.
“Few policy areas are more important to our economic future than energy issues. As voters head to the polls tomorrow, it is essential they remember that access to reliable, affordable, domestic energy supplies is essential to economic growth and stability.”

Lark: “Palin seems to be in great health and vigorous in presenting facts that should concern us. Her medical records have been released I heard.”
Her medical records have not been released, not even a cursory one pager from her physician. Read the top of the page – there really isn’t much excuse to be ignorant.

How about when we get a brain scan from Biden and actual health records from the big O. Is that good for you?

Jake, how about a news story on this Civilian security force, that’s to either equal to,or rival our military? What’s that about? I’m sure you’re in the know, comrade.
Is it much like the KGB?

As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state.

Liberals are what this country is made of, most of the country is liberal, that’s why your losing baby.

Shirley said: Jeanie, how do you expect us to become energy smart continuing to depend on dirty coal? He was simply referring to our need to move on to cleaner fuels.
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Right now, coal is essential in fueling 50% of our electric needs. Shut them down, and electric rates will skyrocket, and become scarce. Everything we buy, that’s going up, will skyrocket. Every company, or business that relies on electricity, will have massive lay offs, or shut down.
I agree we need alternatives, but shutting down an essential, that’s needed to produce electricity, is not the answer. It has to be a phasing out, as we ease into the new….and from what Obama said…he plans to use cap , and trade, to the point, he’d drive them to bankruptcy.
This is a complete turn around from what he’s told the people of coal producing states. Shutting them down will render those workers without jobs, and possibly hundreds of thousands more.
Also…it would lead to all of us not being able to afford to use electricity in our homes.
But since we’re all so selfish, I’m sure we’re all willing to make sacrifices, while Obama sits in the White HOuse, all cozy warm in the winter, and nice and cool in the summer.
Also note…think what this will do to schools. Taxes pay for that as well. Your local taxes will skyrocket to pay for electricity for public buildings.
How about Congress making a sacrifice, and cutting the budget. First to go, is their utilizing free cars, and gas courtesy of the tax payers.

I suppose some name calling of candidates will happen during an election, it seems a bit fourth grade playground, but it does happen. However, whatever someone might think of Gov. Palin, I think a line should be drawn at calling her 17 year old daughter some of the names I have seen in this posting. This child (and yes, she is still just a child) did not ask to be placed in the public eye, did not ask for her mom to run for vice president. She has, perhaps, made poor choices, but they should never have been made so public. To post such horrible names in a public forem where she could read them is just plain wrong. It doesn’t matter what you think of her behavior, she is not the one running for office. What if it were your daughter, sister, etc.
By the way, I am a STRONG Obama supporter and its still wrong.

Mike Carey, president of the Ohio Coal Association (OCA), today issued the following statement in response to just-released remarks from Senator Barack Obama about the nation’s coal industry.
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Also just happens to be a contributing member of the Republican party and one of the 5% who will see a tax increase under Obama’s tax plan.
Sure, his opinion is credible.

Gosh Jake, I thought you already knew that Palin is a LIAR just like McCain who released his medical records with provisions and no time to understand them even IF YOU WERE A PHYSICIAN. I can’t understand why you were waiting for her to release those records since I figured you too smart to take her word on anything! Over the years I have learned ONCE A LIAR, ALWAYS A LIAR!

Jeanie
You DO know McCain supports the same carbon emission cap policy that Obama was talking about right?
Nice rant, but BOTH McCAIN AND OBAMA support the cap.

breezyday, i believe families, including the obama family, should be treated as “civilians.: however, i do not believe “preganancy and child” should be ever, ever used in the same sentence. if you choose to give birth and care for a baby – you are a woman – and you’d better be prepared to act like one. i have no opinion on bristol palin, and i wish her all the happiness in the world and all the suport she needs. but children do not give birth. women do.

I don’t care about any of their medical records. We all know that McCain is a creaking door, Palin is a nutcase, Obama smokes and Biden had aneurysms.

Fact Check:
Despite the fact that both candidates support clean coal technology, the McCain campaign tried to make the case that Barack Obama wanted to take away jobs from coal country in Ohio and Pennsylvania, and both Drudge and FOX were happy to oblige.
But just three years ago on the floor of the United States Senate, John McCain’s Republican colleague George Voinovich of Ohio took to the floor to argue against a proposal by McCain to curb greenhouse gas emissions. McCain’s proposal, Voinovich said, would “put coal out of business” and cost thousands of jobs, an argument that McCain did not contest.
In fact, McCain agreed that his plan would require sacrifice, but he also argued (correctly) that in the long-run, America would be better off. In other words, he made the exact same arguments as Barack Obama

Palin would have no trouble getting her medical records. She gets all of her medical care in Wasilla–that’s why she insisted on flying back there to have Trig.
For everyone screaming murder about Obama “only” releasing a letter, a letter would work for me.
I had dismissed the idea that Trig is Bristol’s son, although I wondered why Palin didn’t just release his birth certificate and end the rumor.
When Palin was asked to release her records, she immediately became defensive–as if it isn’t standard practice. When she said, “I’ve had five kids — that’s going to be in the medical records,” I began to wonder. Maybe it’s just that I expect all of her statements to be lies.
Perhaps her reticence stems from something as simple as being pregnant when she married Todd. Does she think people don’t know?

What OPEN BOOK? Nothing about her and family is “open”. She keeps everything about herself to herself because she knows she can’t afford to have people find out what she is really like or about. She is hiding a lot. She thought she would come down to the lower 48 and just be accepted at “face value” since she has gotten away with using her face and body as her meal ticket her entire life. But it just didn’t quite work out that way and ‘if’ they should manage to win this election, she figures she can keep the rest of what we don’t know about her under wraps by using that good old stand by, “executive privilege”! Ain’t America grand????

She told Brian Williams of ABC
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Doesn’t Brian Williams work for NBC?

Some of us are a lot more concerned about Palin’s propensities for personal vendettas in office, such as Troopergate. She continues to show her tendencies for politicizing the personal by complaining about journalists and most recently, her claim that her first amendment rights have been violated by journalists. It’s indeed frightening that a potential veep doesn’t understand something as basic as the first amendment rights and which countries the US is at war with. During her Fox interview several days ago, she talked about “shoring up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win the wars.”

Concerned in OH: “0bama wants to bankrupt the coal industry. Not made up.”
Yes, yes it is in fact. Anyone with a reading level over the 6th grade can (and should) look up Obama’s actual statement and verify you are lying. It should be noted that Obama was discussing coal and the need for clean coal power plants under a future CO2 cap and trade system, the same system as the one proposed by John McCain.
Republicans have no integrity left to sell a Big Lie at this point. Don’t you have anything, anything at all, good about the McCain/Palin ticket to promote?

Tom Brokaw on PBS even said he knows nothing about Obama. Who he is, or what he’s about.
Most of the press on his plane, don’t have a clue about Obama after all this time.
Who’s lying, and keeping secrets?
The Times of London were the ones who discovered the news about Obama’s aunt living in Boston. Want to know how they did it? They found the info in Obama’s books. He spoke in his own book about he had relatives living here.
So he lied the other day, when he said he didn’t know.

John McCain gave the same said terrorist 480,000 dollars, let’s play guilt by association.

Really love how the MEDIA and Obama want a citizen of the UNITED STATES to release private medical records.
But at the same time say nothing about Obama’s aunt living here illegally and collecting welfare fraudelntly.
Is this his idea of spreading our wealth.
Plus lets see the video of Obama attending a PLO Terrorist party the LA TIMES has. How about demanding that.

Shirley…
What PLO terrorist? That was a McCain campaign hoax.
The supposed terrorist has been defended by national Republicans… and McCain even gave the guy money for his work.
So much for that smear…
But, don’t worry… you’ll probably be getting another one soon. Maybe about Obama’s “conspiracy” against coal miner’s daughters…. Or maybe the one about Obama’s conspiracy to hide his mistress in a secret bunker… Or maybe that Obama is a transdimensional being from the Planet X.

Perhaps her reticence stems from something as simple as being pregnant when she married Todd. Does she think people don’t know?
Posted by: Diane dp | Nov 3, 2008 3:38:07 PM
I didn’t know… Do we really care?
Wasn’t Michele pregnant when SHE got married?
Who cares?
But what I DO care about is :
WHERE ARE OBAMA’S MEDICAL RECORDS?
The REAL ones!
The ones which include ALL the blood tests and organ checks. The ones which contain more than just the signature of his M D friend.
That’s what most of us want to see.
We KNOW Sarah is healthy; she just passed her physical in April and probably has had one even since!.
STICK TO THE ISSUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh… and that smear too… that Obama’s aunt is an illegal alien.
(Actually, she came here legally… and is pursuing asylum status through the legal channels… but don’t let that stop you.)
No low is too low….
If you cannot find a legitimate issue… just make one up.
Do anything you can to “turn the page on the economy”… change the subject… drown out the American “whiners” with an overwhelming tidal wave of slime.

byy: “Really love how the MEDIA and Obama want a citizen of the UNITED STATES to release private medical records.
But at the same time say nothing about Obama’s aunt living here illegally and collecting welfare fraudelntly.”
Say nothing about it? IT WAS HEADLINE NEWS. Do you think we’re complete morons? It was only a few days ago, we know you’re blatantly lying when you say the media said nothing about it.

“If you cannot find a legitimate issue… just make one up”
…. like Obama’s minyans do!

No press conference and no medical records from Gov. Palin.
Regarding Sarah Palin in the White House, never is good enough for me.

Im a jewish mcCain supporter BUT IF PEOPLE KEEP TRYING TO USE “Khalidi” AGAINST OBAMA IM VOTING THE OTHER WAY!
Khalidi was never a spokespeson for the PLO NEVER.. He does support the two state solutions so move on!
IM SO SICK OF THESE ATTACKS TRYING TO USE US JEWS LIKE WE ARE STUPID!

It will no longer matter soon. McCain is scheduled to hold a rally today at Rosswell, New Mexico
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Larry, don’t joke about that!
The Weekly World News had an article stating that the space alien had switched from supporting Obama to supporting McCain!
They could be planning an ambush, or conspiring to rig the election! Here’s the link:
While some may question their journalistic inegrity, they are certainly every bit as credible as Fox these days.

Obama hasn’t even seen his aunt for two years… she is a distant family member to him.
You cannot blame him for her legal troubles.
But even if he did stay in contact with her… She has been trying for the last two years to get her visa renewed… She is applying for asylum for political persecution. But she has not been hiding from the law.
But whatever it takes… you gotta make stuff up about the other guy… because McCain doesn’t have an agenda worth voting for.
So just dig deep and try to conjure up as much hate as you can… and then put it into words.
See if that gets you anywhere.

Jeannie. That is not what Obama said. I have listened to the audio. It is available. Obama said the same thing John McCain said about cap and trade – and made the same argument that McCain made with automobile manufacturers. The ones who have been getting awa with too much are going to face higher regulation and fines. Listen to the transcripts. The real ones – not from the Maimer. They’ll make it clear. If what you are really worried about is the coal industry – it will put your mind at rest. If what you really want to do is slime Obama – then it really doesn’t matter.

“But even if he did stay in contact with her… She has been trying for the last two years to get her visa renewed… ”
WHY DIDN’T HE OFFER TO HELP HER?

JR – The medical records might not make Sarah Palin look so good. I agree. But I just think it is a private issue. If she had a chronic disease, it would be different – but she sure doesn’t look like it. She just has something in her medical past that will hurt her as a candidate, and I wish the press would concentrate on other issues.

She either has mad cow disease or hoof and mouth.

RELEASE THE RECORDS
how can she get away with this??? i mean what is she hiding?
How can B O get away with this?
I mean what is H E hiding?
Even his birth records are questionable.
And why are his school and state senatorial records sealed tighter than the proverbial drum?
And what is that enormous thing growing out of the side of his nose?
Is it cancerous?

jhw: Obama attending a going away party with an AMerican-born professor who has criticized Israeli polcies towards Palestine. DO you know a lot of Israelis? A lot of them criticise Israeli policies toward Palestine, too. Jake just posted a description of this man. It wasn’t a closed door-revolutionary meeting. It was a party. They probably had cake.
The source of the piece was not the Times reporter – it was a bottom feeder of the blogosphere who no self-respecting journalist would touch. Way below Drudge. Every major journalist know who is was – and no one quotes this source (at least publically). The source doesn’t have the tape. My guess is that there isn’t one. The LA Times is owned by a billionaire who gives millions to Israel. DO you really think he would put the state of Israel at risk if he had evidence that showed it was at risk?
This whole thing is just more baloney from Sarah Palin, who seem to be good at nothing besides spreading lies and slander. Why is everyone so interested in this dessert party? We have a lot more to worry about. Anyone look at the 401Ks lately? How many families do you know who won’t be able to send their kids to college now – because they have lost all their savings?

I have been thinking about why it is she won’t release those records after saying she would. The only thing I can think of is that at some point she had an STD and is embarassed by that. Maybe her Dr. wouldn’t agree to delete it from her file? She wouldn’t want all those holy rollers knowing she has herpes or warts right?

Obviously Sarah Palin is hiding something. She is such a hypocrite. She claims her life is an open book but actions speak louder then words. She refuses to release her records because it will show that she did not give birth to her latest child. If not that which I see is pretty iffy..then what? Has she had some horribly embarrassing ailment that she doesn’t want anyone to know? Is she suffering from depression or a heart condition?? What is she hiding. She’s two faced. Not even a note from the doctor released, something? Anything…how about a doctor step forward and say she is healthy?

You notice Dufus in Ohio disappeared.”
Sorry, Jwench. I gotta work so Senator Government can punish me and give people like you my hard earned money for free.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Nov 3, 2008 4:14:21 PM
I really do hope he wins tomorrow. I for one will be glad that we will have a future to look forward to. Here’s a thought. Move to Alaska with Sarah baby and join the AIP and then you can secede from the union.

How about if after the election we ask her to go to Never Neverland.
Never come down again to the lower 48 and pollute our airwaves with her nonsense and we’ll get the late night comics to never deservedly ridicule her again.
Sounds like a fair trade to me.

Cindy Palin stole pain pills from her own charity to feed her addiction. That’s pretty messed up. McCain finished near the bottom of his class…not the brightest one you think?

SARAH PALINS CAMP LEAK EMAIL THAT MCCAINS CROWDS ARE TEN TIMES SMALLER THAN PLANED FOR!!
PALIN WANTS THE GOP TO KNOW MCCAIN IS THE DRAG ON THE CAMPAIGN NOT HER!

My question is why the big deal over the release of her medical records.
It is the right of every American to have Private health care.
Or let me elaborate. Is that another right the Liberals do not believe in.
Posted by: dos | Nov 3, 2008 4:28:35 PM
The Republican’s keep yapping about Obama’s, so it’s not one sided. I could care less if we never see any of them

Look, at the bare minimum she could have gone the Obama route. She is young, appears healthy, has had five children and could have issued a short summary with some basic test results. For the campaign to take this route there must be something. It may not really be much, but anything would change the story line back to poor vetting by the McCain team and since they are being roundly accused of political malpractice at this point they may just figure that its best to just play it out.

Obama’s grandma has died. I’m sorry she didn’t get to see him win. :(

Posted by: Blip | Nov 3, 2008 4:33:12 PM
Watch how they turn it around that we are the one’s spewing hate and lies. Obama/Biden all the way!!

She is probably afraid that they will find that she has no brain. Obviously she has something to hide. And if not, then my initial statement of her not having a brain is true. She knows what everyone has been saying about Trig possibly being her grandson and not her son. What better way to put those rumors to rest.
This woman is an idiot and I cannot wait for her to go home to Alaska for good. Good riddance!

Posted by: Wade | Nov 3, 2008 4:34:59 PM
“Obama released a 276-word summary of his health signed by a doctor…fine…maybe we don’t need every drop of info…what can really be in there?…also, think about it, everyone who has ever had an embarrassing exam or a or something…I don’t see what the big deal is for any of the four running for high office.
Please afford Palin the same standard of respect for privacy.”
Because of the stance and platform Palin is running on (Pro-Life, etc) we need to know that she is just not ‘talking the talk’ but ‘walking the walk’, to be an informed voter this is very important.

This woman Sarah Palin is a idiot. Almost as big an idiot as John McCain but not quite.
Holding up her medical records now speaks volumes. She’s been stalling for weeks because she knows their sorry campaign is in the tank. So why release medical records when you’re not going to win anyway?
Please Sarah, hurry up and go on back to Alaska -a place where you will appear smart, because the majority of your constituency is ignorant trailer-trash.
The best thing to come out of your failed campaign is that it is the end of John McCain’s political career. And you will go the way of Dan Quayle, out of politics forever.

I cannot believe that Republicans are now calling the death of Obama’s grandmother a “sympathy ploy”.
That woman tried desperately to hang on and see her grandson’s historic victory…
And people are willing even to call this an election ploy.
How sad!

Wow… there is no limit to which Republicans will go to smear a Democrat.
(It conjures up all the horrible lies that people told about Bill and Hillary.)

If I were a McCain supporter… I would just offer Obama my condolences and focus on why McCain is a good candidate.
I fail to see how accusing Obama of making his grandma die on November 3rd to help him on November 4th is going to help you at all.
It won’t help you a single bit.
So just drop it.
And show a little sympathy for the guy. Nobody is asking you to vote for him. Only to behave as though he is a human being…. Nothing more.
Can’t you even do that much?
Please?

“I question the timing.”
You didn’t question the timing of the Ashley Todd hoax.
In fact you flogged that long after it was proven a hoax.

STILL NO RECORDS I GUESS THAT BABY ISNT HERS AFTER ALL

When somebody dies… the newspapers publish an obituary.
If that person was recently in the news, it usually makes national news. I can see why McCain would want to sit on such a story for political purposes… but usually the passing of a loved one transcends politics.
For Obama not to acknowledge his grandmother’s death with a brief statement would be cold.
To act like it didn’t matter until Wednesday would be barbaric.

It isn’t interesting that she hasn’t released the records. Obama hasn’t released a ton of documentation.
It is interesting that Jake felt he had to write about this today. Surely being on the plane, he could have found many topics with something interesting.
But then they would kick him off the plane.
2008 – Bush put modern journalism on the ventilator. Obama pulled out the cord and filled the hoses with sawdust.
R.I.P Fourth estate.
You do understand the level of pure cynicism and mistrust of the MSM this campaign has created, right Jake? When Fox is said to be by media watchers to be fair and balanced by comparison, you know ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN have surrendered their credibility to history’s ashcan. Unbelievable.

my bad…. Madelyn Dunham

Do you know who the real loser in all of this is going to be? Us. We have allowed the media to take sides and cover for these candidates, and we have not held them accountable for all the stuff they have kept hidden from us about the candidates, and what they actually stand for. When Americans vote for “change”, and they have done it numerous times without asking what that “change” is going to be, it
will be too late, and America is going to be weakened yet again. No matter who wins, there is going to be massive job loss in America, because our politicians don’t have the backbone to free us from foreign oil. If you think gas prices were high this summer, just wait until next summer when all this cap and trade nonsense takes effect. I just talked with a woman whose son is in the construction business in FL, and works for a huge company there. They have just layed off their whole “middle class” work force, but because her son was so good at his work, they have offered to keep him for HALF the salary he was making. This is only the beginning. Our automakers losses announced today were huge. That bailout is coming – who pays for that – you guessed it – us again. If the candidate who wants to unionize America again wins, you will see prices at non-union stores skyrocket – groceries, goods, services, etc. You may delude yourself into thinking that the middle class will be protected – think again. How can it not effect you when you pay double or triple increases on gasoline, groceries, services, etc.? This time next year, America will be reeling from the policies of CHANGE – and America will say this is not what we thought was meant by change.

I can’t wait to vote for McCain tomorrow!!!!

Concerned “right on cue”
I totally agree. Nonstop drama.
McCain/Palin 2008

The death of a family member is not an object of political convenience for anyone. I have not mentioned the topic accordingly.
You do realize that if Obama wins he has to put distance between his campaign and supporters such as yourself, right? See Garfield (the President, not the Cat).

McCain supporters should offer Obama their condolences…
and focus on why they think McCain should be president.
They should not accuse Obama of exploiting his grandmother in what is clearly a time of loss and grief.
If they cannot do that, then you shouldn’t vote for their candidate… because he has nothing to offer.

Some of you people are so EVIL…
My heart goes out to Obama and his family and supporters!
She was a good lady and raised a good grandson!
On a positive note in Todays Australian news papers even the ones owned by Ruppert Murdoch polls show:
If Australia was voting:
Obama 95%
McCain 2%
Dont care 3%
=/- 3%
Sample size 3500 people by phone.
Good luck to all the Obama supporters The World is on your side!

Concerned in Ohio,
You are a pathetic low-life. Here is what Mike actually said:
I hope everyone who hasnt voted yet..
Votes tomorrow on behalf of Maelyn Dunham….
Obama 08
To the normal person that means in her memory because she didn’t live long enough to see her grandson elected.

Kim… You are right. It is a personal family matter. It’s up to you, who you want to vote for.
What makes me angry is how quickly people are willing to accuse Obama of causing his own grandmother to die from cancer as a political stunt.
Most McCain supporters are decent folks… but I really do wonder about the merits of a candidate when their supporters rely strictly on attacking the opponent.
Clearly something is out of whack when McCain supporters feel like it is appropriate to speculate about such a conspiracy.
It should make reasonable people doubt all of the other stuff that they say about Obama.
If they are willing to exploit this tragedy without any evidence or any decency…. what else are they willing to say to support their candidate.
All day I have been reading the most ridiculous smears about Obama… but this latest one just takes the cake. It really says it all. Spells it out in capital letters: AT THIS POINT IN THE CAMPAIGN, MANY MCCAIN SUPPORTERS ARE WILLING TO MAKE STUFF UP TO WIN.

Mike NC I agree with you… Some sick people on this blog!
R.I.P. Madelyn Dunham
Madelyn Dunham was just like my grand parrents who built planes here to fight the Japs! Shared history… Im sorry for Obama’s lose!

Thanks for the chuckle, Jake.
You didn’t really think the medical records were ever coming did you?
It was a lot like troopergate: “I encourage this investigation and I promise to cooporate every step of the way”. And she did too, right up until the investigation actually started and then WHAM, the door slammed shut.
Shall we just say Honesty can no longer be considered a Republican trait and leave it at that.

Linda Douglass, a senior aide, said Obama learned of her death about 8 a.m. Eastern time today. She said Madelyn Dunham, 87, a woman who helped raise Obama, passed between 4 a.m. and 5 a.m. Eastern time.

For all those who infer Obama didn’t release his records, here’s the article form MAY – clearly outside your retention abilities.
Obama releases medical information: “excellent health.”
By Lynn Sweet on May 29, 2008 10:54 AM
WASHINGTON–Likely Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is in “excellent health,” according to a summary of Obama medical records released on Thursday. The 276-word summary was written by Dr. David L. Scheiner, the Chicago doctor who has been Obama’s personal physician since March, 1987. Obama has not had a check-up in more than a year. Scheiner described Obama as “lean and muscular with no excess body fat.” Obama is still using Nicorette gum to stay off cigarettes–he has quit smoking several times, his doctor notes.
HIghlights:
*Triglycerides of 44(normal under 150), cholesterol 173 (normal under 200), HDL 68 (normal over 40), and LDL 96 (normal under 130). Chem 24, urinalysis and CBC were normal, PSA was 0.6, very good. An EKG was normal.
The Obama campaign decided to release this summary of Obama’s health status at this time to contrast with the long medical history of GOP presumptive nominee Sen. John McCain (R-Az.). The McCain campaign last week allowed a select group of reporters to study McCain’s more complex medical history, complicated because of his skin cancer and injuries suffered while serving in the military and as a prisoner of war in Viet Nam.

“The White house under Obama will be very empty since all of Obama’s family is conveniently dead or being deported.”
Don’t. It’s beneath McCain and Palin and it just inflames people to no purpose. Anger is an addiction and one way or another, half the people in the world are junkies right now.
Tomorrow, one way or another, this thing is settled and we do what we are honored for throughout the world and modern history: transfer power over the most powerful republic in the world without bloodshed.
Be proud of it. This was the hardest election in my memory. Let’s make it shine in our grandchildren’s memories.

Concerned in OH
Thats OK I love America Ill be so glade when she is free from leaders supported by you.
Ill be happy when America is once again respected!
When America is the good guy again the world will start working right again!
When you get your economy in order and take it away from Bush/McCain… The rest of the world can get back to work…
Australians lost Billions in your share market…So did the rest of the world!

SD:
The 276-word summary was written by Dr. David L. Scheiner, the Chicago doctor who has been Obama’s personal physician since March, 1987. Obama has not had a check-up in more than a year.”
OBAMA HAS NOT HAD A CHECK-UP IN MORE THAN A YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama’s grandmother just died.
Here’s prayer for the Obama family, I hope the love that held you together through this year together through the weeks to come. And Toots? You were like my mother – poor, tough and straight. I know that you are still with us – and you cannot believe what love and hope and work can make happen.

Posted by: tiaa | Nov 3, 2008 5:30:00 PM
Funny I don’t recognize the America we hve now. It wasn’t like this 8 years ago!

Jwench which is your other handle.
Posted by: Kim | Nov 3, 2008 5:31:13 PM
I use ONE name and it’s JWENCH! You and Concerned think you are so intelligent that you have it all figured out. IF I a going to say something I don’t have to hide behind another name.

Len,
Why would our grandchildren give a rats ass about this election? Please, most of these kids can’t tell you who Gerald Ford or LBJ is. Every election is the biggest, most historical, etc. Actually Gore/Bush was more exciting in my book. Gore was a much better candidate than Obama. That when it was exciting for me that my party had a good candidate and you were excited about voting for them. Obama is a good speaker but weak in every other respect. I had to cross party lines and go Mccain.
Obama more than likely will be indicted at some point. I have never been wrong about that. I was correct when I said that about Nixon, and I was correct when I said it about Clinton. I can smell a crappy president a mile away.
I begged people not to vote for Bush. He has turned out to be the worst. Now I am telling you Obama, will be a terrible president. If he wins. He will be a 1 term president and expect a scandal within year 3.

tiaa
Al-Qaeda supports McCain after seeing how he handeled the Economic crisis!!!
Your post doesnt stand up to facts!

“do you realize what a weak presidency speaks to the terrorists who seek to strike America again”
Unlike Bush who ignored warnings of impending attack, Obama will actual take steps to protect this nation.
McCain would likely get us involved in a war between Russia and Georgia based on the advice of his top foreign policy adviser who happens to be on the payroll of Georgia.

len, of course not.
But I do wonder why Republicans would hire the folks who made “the Clinton Chronicles” to create anti-Obama propaganda.
It’s one thing when some whacko on a blog cooks up a theory about a candidate.
It’s another thing entirely when those people are paid large sums of money to produce such conspiracy theories professionally.
And, I might be wrong, but I think that Republicans have spent enough money on opposition research, robocall firms, and sketchy smear merchants to say that maybe there is something deeper than just the freak sparks of irrationality that occasionally pop up when we talk politics.
Maybe there is something deeply rooted in a campaign which pushes smears that leads their followers to embrace almost any theory as long as it says something despicable and dehumanizing about Democrats.
I sure don’t think that rank and file Republicans are that corrupt. Maybe it’s naive of me to want to blame someone for this kind of embarassing behavior… But I don’t think Republicans are bad people…
I think they are being manipulated by individuals desperate to hang on to political power.

Ryan actually I can see IP addresses on this blog. You wish I did not.

“Ryan actually I can see IP addresses on this blog. You wish I did not.”?
ROFLMAO. Sure you can.
The lesson as always? Right winger lie.

Aussie is in Melbourne Australia
Local time 950am Tuesday 4th November
Today is Melbourne Cup day a national holiday!

The Republican party is imploding and the right wing is putting the last nail in the coffin by supporting Sarah Palin.

What are you talking about Kim? You make things up left and right…
Why would anyone believe you when you say you are an independent?

Nice try Blip, but it is the same address. Here is a tip. Might be more convincing if the two of you did not come and go at the same time.

Just when you think the right wing nuts have gone about as low as they can go, they manage to hit you with some new low.
Your mean spiritedness, paranoia have robbed some of you of your humanity. I can’t believe that some of you are peddling conspiracy theories about Mrs. Dunham’s death. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
My prayers are with the Obama family. I wish that Mrs. Dunham had been able to live to see her Grandson elected.

Kim
NO truth in your posts why bother!

what does palin have to hide—perhaps an obortion—some exotic desease—-you do not hide for no reason-
i would expect anything.

Sarah Palin should post her medical records.
She doesn’t need to show everything. But the American public deserves to have minimal information about her health history.
Her silence is proof she has something to hide.
Her handlers have calculated that publishing them would hurt more than resisting the requests.

Posted by: Kim | Nov 3, 2008 5:59:49 PM
I happen care what foreigners think. Did you ever stop to think that a) he was schooled in the US or b) he is an american living abroad? Of course not you aren’t that intelligent.

wow this is a new one –a part of my post was removed –i guess someone also knows what i do—–but the public really should know.

Ralph,
How do you know that it is a McCain supporter that is writing such? Do you really believe people represent themselves truthfully on this blog? Americans are so gullible.

Thank goodness that in a little over 24 hours, this will all be over and good will win over evil. I hope Obam wins this election so that we can move into the future and once and for all heal this country and pull it out of the sewer that the Republicans have put it in.

rodney
I was online when you and Mike NC had your whole posts removed! Poor Mike NC was banned from the site for 72 hours that day.. After he told you he saved your posts that they removed! He was looking for you after it! Did he talk to you ?

aussie
whenever i get detailed about some of the crap with mccain and palin i get stopped.

“I think they are being manipulated by individuals desperate to hang on to political power.”
And that is true of both sides of this election. That is true of politics. It is worse this time because of the significant changes of kind and type of media enabling levels of unprecedented participation.
@kim: Because it is true that having an African-American represent a major party is historic regardless of the outcome. Because this election has many significant structural changes particularly fund raising and use of alternative media. Talk radio begat that trend, but now it is the web. Because the voter turnout is likely to be higher than we have ever seen and there are several looming scandals over this that will penetrate deep both into the campaigns and into the Washington machinery. That iceberg is barely understood at this time. My informed guess is this will uncover a lot of tendrils and some will be very hard to accept.
Also because the emotions in this campaign fed by the rage machine created with feedback on the Internet and the surrender of the MSM to the Obama campaign are the worst I’ve experienced since the 1960s.
But as to indictments, my sense is that you are right or we are headed for a Constitutional crisis. Given the irrationality of some of the supporters, that can turn very ugly.
Since you remember those elections, you know what it means for America to set her cities on fire. It’s been my worry for over a year now, and I don’t know if we will back away from this.
America has whipped up a lot of anger and it has to go somewhere because like other addictions, there is a transference. The Civil Rights movement begat… and so on. What we do this time is anyone’s guess.
This one is a bad stew. If we overcome it, we are stronger. If not, we will weaken unacceptably at the very time we need strength and resolve.

jwench,
“Thank goodness that in a little over 24 hours, this will all be over and good will win over evil”
I hope that these blogs aren’t an example of what these people will be like in the real world. If they are, we could be in for some troubling times.
There are some real nut cases here.

hey len
you mentioned the 1960s that was when the white sheet freaks were blowing up churches—the most shamefull part of our history-

I am flabbergasted at the amount of money Obamanauts poured into B O’s hands
at a time when thousands… maybe millions of people were on the brink of losing their homes…. and their jobs….
I am flabbergasted that Obama did not see fit to return some of this money to his supporters….. or to charities like food pantries (which are mostly empty)…
Instead, he chose to show off his big ears and enormous ego in the largest arena he could find…..
Well it was YOUR money….. but if this is an example of his compassion for this country and a prophecy of his brand of leadership for our nation……. I find it sorely lacking.
What we do NOT need at this time…. is a spendthrift at our helm.
We can’t afford it!
VOTE FOR
MCCAIN AND PALIN
COUNTRY BEFORE GLITZ!

Concerned,
I am tired of your snide, smarmy comments. “He says as he clamors for Palin’s medical records and calls every non-disciple racists.”
One, he has never called anyone a racist and two he has not asked about her medical records. If he has personally done either please provide proof.

It was on October 22 when Palin told NBC, “My life has been an open book.”
Since then, we’ve learned it’s a very thin book, with a lot of ripped out and redacted pages. Much of what there is to read has been ill-conceived and sloppily written, interwoven with sugar-coated venomous talking points.

Well, what do you know. Not only is he Austrian, he’s a regular fortune teller!
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Nov 3, 2008 6:35:47 PM
Oh look Einstein doesn’t know that Aussie is short for Australian…lol

Hey Jake,
Why pick on Sarah Palin? Neither McCain nor Obama gave out comprehensive medicals either.

jwench
you have to give them credit –but very little—wackos are running rev wright ads—-i would like to have some of these people suffer as they did back in the early days.–and this is a very white guy saying it-

Well. I suspect that Palin does have something to hide.
However, after going through a few posts on other sites, I suspect it is something of a very private, family nature which has no bearing on her ability (or lack thereof) to serve as VP.
So I’ll stop being hypocritical and let her slide on this one.
I always believed that the whole Clinton-what’s-her-name scandal should never have been made public. He should have just refused to enter into any discussion on his private life.
So, I’ll cut Sarah Palin some slack here, even though I admit a desire for revenge against the GOP.

Rodney,
Remember back in the primaries I (jethro…as you called me) said I would never vote for Obama. I have found that he is actually a decent guy and I like a lot of his ideas. There are some things I don’t agree with him on, but who agrees 100%. What a difference a few months can make!

McCain 273 Obama 265

jwench
i had a good feeling about him from the first time i heard him—–sorry for the previous harassment—
Posted by: rodney | Nov 3, 2008 7:03:52 PM
What matters in the end that we get him elected. You were pretty fun though….lol.

My previous comment has gotten excised, so I will say it in a more politically correct manner. Palin has a very clear reason for having failed to release her medical records, and I am sure that many of you would be surprised to find out what that reason is. The case is stronger than one thinks, …

tired republican——i truly know–and she is mccains soul mate–kind of funny at best–he should have done his homework.

Sarah Palin Medical records will not be released. So therefore we assume something is in her medical records McCain does not want out. Stop and think and think about my conclusion! This is only reason why they haven’t.

McCain lost me at Palin.
Posted by: Karen | Nov 3, 2008 7:17:14 PM
She lost you at hello….lol. Reminds me of a song with a few minor changes.

McCain is not very old, but yeah, he lost me at Palin.
As all things, so much of any race is about timing. Perhaps Palin would come across differently in four years after she has done the homework necessary to understand the significant national and international that any voter (okay, maybe now that gets amended to most) would insist a candidate understand.
Still, a certain predilection for half truths or worse – clear even that she kept certain things from the McCain campaign until they had no choice but to proceed and prevaricate.
Ultimately, that sits on McCain and the unraveling of what once earned my respect as well as many others. I liked 2000 McMaverick. 2008 McAin’t, not even not so much: not at all!

Maybe her life is an open book but some of the pages are stuck together…?

Posted by: tjp8 | Nov 3, 2008 7:35:49 PM
His grandmother who raised him passed aaway. IF it had been a family member of McCain’s they would have done the same thing.
ABC has covered the coal thing as well.
It’s really not the big of a deal because Obama and McCain basically have the same stance, if you don’t take what Obama said out of context or just use a snippet of what he says like Fox does.

tjp8, problem is that the coal thing is an imaginary issue, just another attempt by a man I once respected and planned to vote for to use a non-existent policy difference as a wedge issue.
The only way you get to the “attempted bankruptcy” quote is if you strip it completely of context. Why? Because save a couple of free pollution credits, there is no real difference between the stances of each candidate. Sean Hannity can pat himself on the back for his cynical “cunning” but all he’s done is cut until he got his preferred meaning.
What’s truly sad is that there was no serious discussion of what must happen to ween our addiction to the oil produced by terrorists and maintain an environment that even us conservatives cannot deny is imperiled.

Jwench – You really believe McCain and The One have the same position on coal? You need to diversify the sources from which you receive your news…
BTW, while I’m going to miss the coverage the Dallas Morning News, NY Post, and Washington Times since they’ve been booted from Obama One (these papers should’ve known better than to endorse – gasp – Johnny Mac), I’m very confident that their replacements (Essence and Jet in particular) will provide the same in-depth and balanced covered provided by the aforementioned dailies.
Jake – Given you are on the plane with The One, I would expect that you have already covered this…but as stated previously, I’ve lost all need for the MSM – This blog is the only exception that I check on an infrequent basis.

you have to admit—palin and mccain on snl are the best—as pres and vp –they are second best—-perhaps they will find a new career on snl.

You really believe McCain and The One have the same position on coal? You need to diversify the sources from which you receive your news…
Posted by: tjp8 | Nov 3, 2008 7:58:08 PM
Look up their actual stances. They are virtually the same. Quit listening to FOx and the band of smear bandits and fid out the information on your own.
They provide snippets of what he says and not the entire quote. Most of the right wing sites take his remarks out of context, which I find pathetic.
By calling him the “One”, and using “Essence and Jet in particular” your words, not mine you show the real reason you won’t vote for him. Get over you narrow mindedness.
I am not going to argue with somebody who would never think of voting him for obvious reasons.

since she was found guilty previously—and now not guilty –what do we do ,flip a coin to break the tie.
Posted by: rodney | Nov 3, 2008 8:08:50 PM
I bet he heard it from Sarah herself. You remember she wasn’t guilty the first time according to her..lol

During his election campaign and throughout his eight years in the White House, Bill Clinton never once released his medical records. And, how many of you reading this even know that fact? And, here again, when it comes to Sarah Palin, her wardrobe, her children, her husband, and now her medical history are used as weapons by our pathetically biased mainstream media not to challenge any of her positions, but rather to attack and slander her personally.
When the history of this election is written, one of the signal features of it will be the sad and pitiful death of the American media.

“you mentioned the 1960s that was when the white sheet freaks were blowing up churches—the most shamefull part of our history-”
And your point is? No one here is defending that.
I don’t think it is the most shameful part. The shameful part was when the Constitutional convention refused to outlaw slavery.
The church bombings were despicable. Then there was Bill Ayers blowing up police stations and killing innocent Americans. The most shameful part is Bill Ayers is now a teacher in chicago ‘free as a bird’ whereas the bombers of the 16th street church were brought to justice. When Ayers is brought to justice, then talk about white sheets might have more meaning.
One law, Rodney, blind to persons and political persuasion, that is the ideal of the framers of the Constitution.

len
ayres did not actually do any of these things himself—i was around then and the nam war was a massive pustile eating at the country usa..as for your defending the bombings or trying to justify it with ayres– is far beyond the scope of disgusting—–and trying to pass obama off as ayres is beyond my belief— iam fully aware of mccain and his escapades when in the military-first hand—–so dont bother to attack me for the truth –vote for mccain tomorrow as i know you will —simply let it end at that.

goodnight.

One set of laws, Rodney, just as Barack Obama said today in reference to his aunt. If you have a problem with the Constitution, take it up with your representative or Senator.
No one is defending the 60s bombers of any political persuasion here except you. Bill Ayers is precisely the same as the men who blew up the churches. Precisely. The only difference is he is walking free.
I will vote proudly tomorrow. It’s a great country with a great future if that is what we work toward. As for who wins, may having be as good as wanting.

Sen. Obama has never actually released his birth certificate and other important records, and Sen. Dodd hasn’t released documents related to his loans from Countrywide, as he promised and has been criticized for not doing (“If Not Now, When? (Hartford Courant), and “Senator Dodd’s Notion of Courtesy,” (NY Times), and “Dodd and Frank, step down,” (Providence Journal).

mccain lost because of the financial crisis and his actions. a true maverick would , like most of america, been against it. the bailout would’ve still happened, but this was his chance to win and he blew it. as for palin, well, america hasn’t heard the last of her.anyone that the media hates that much has a good future.

Cold plate of CROW!

“I’m afraid you’re wrong. Had McCain’s mother or grandmother died, the reaction from the “other side” would not have been the same as the hateful, paranoid drool that I see in this thread.”
Actually, yes it would be. The statistics on that are quite clear.
It isn’t right, but people can be very mean when made angry for a long period of time. It’s time to get over it.