Loose Ends II: Oy-bama and the Jewish Vote
Despite all the talk of racist old Jews in Florida, the middle name "Hussein," Muslim heritage, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and how Obama’s position on Iran would lead to another Holocaust, President-elect Barack Obama not only won the Jewish vote yesterday with 77% of their vote, that was an improvement on the Jewish vote numbers earned by Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., four years ago.
And yet, the Republican Jewish Coalition is today trying to paint this as a victory, in what might be the worst spin of the day.
"Compared to John Kerry’s results four years ago, Obama increased his level of support among all voters," says RJC executive director Matt Brooks. "Yet, Obama’s gains among Jewish voters were smaller than among other key demographic groups."
Brooks argues that Obama bested Kerry on the percentage of Catholic voters, African-American voters, and Latino voters he won by anywhere from 7 to 13 points, "(y)et, his increase among Jewish voters was only 4 points ahead of Kerry’s numbers in 2004…This data clearly shows that there are still nagging doubts in the Jewish community about how President-elect Obama will lead on important issues affecting the Jewish community and our national security."
"Nagging doubts" so much so that Obama won more than three out of four Jewish voters and did better than Kerry among them?
I believe the word for that is meshugenah.
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Posted by: Lisa S | November 5, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
maybe it’s finally time to move beyond ‘groups’ and just start thinking of ourselves as Americans,
part of a greater global community…we don’t have to all agree, but, we can actually work together for the common good……..
if we want to……
Posted by: Blue | November 5, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
This jew says the chosen people have chosen.
Posted by: dem in chicago | November 5, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Obama’s chief of staff will be Rahm Emmanuel who is Jewish.
Posted by: Nancy | November 5, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
Blue, I couldn’t agree more and you said it all so much better than I could!
Posted by: InWantofaUnitedNation | November 5, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
I was so surprised that Obama won so much of Jewish votes and other types of votes. What are his x-factors that, though he got plenty to be argued on, he still won the hearts of Americans?
Posted by: ashley | November 5, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
I do hope this is the last time we have to read about either Matt Brooks or the Republican Jewish Coalition until 2012.
Posted by: Matthew B | November 5, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
response to blue; thank you for your thoughtful comment…you are right if this election teaches us anything it is that moving beyond group/party/race/ is the mandate that won last night-if not a mandate at least a huge surge in that direction.
a mccain supporter
Posted by: nevada 2 | November 5, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
I can’t believe he carried that much of the Jewish vote. I sure didn’t vote for him. And I do believe all his Obamaites will be wishing they had made a different decision before it’s all over with. They are going to see he’s for no-one, but himself. It’s like he brainwashed so many people. But it’s going to be hard to feel sorry for all these people when they see the real Obama.
Posted by: Janet | November 5, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
last nights election ushered in a new era, we can either embrace it, give it a chance, or get left behind.
as a mccain supporter i chose to give it a chance. and i embrace the opportunity to live in this historic period.
God Bless America and God Bless OUR new President.
Posted by: nevada 2 | November 5, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
JakeT,
did you get your Wednesday interview??? You better. Tell Obama we have said to give Jake Tapper his Wednesday interview or else…
About the Jewish vote: all these demog. groups, its like this president will now owe his presidency to the American people or something. what a thought
Janet,
I believe you will be among the masses who will be seeing the real Obama. So he displays a real Obama that turns out not to be pretty, no need to try to feel sorry for the pathetic bunch of us since i would imagine you would be among the masses in need of sympathy. So you better join the rest of us in praying that he better does a good job
Posted by: Question | November 5, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
All I can say is GOD help us becouse Obama not going to. It’s going to be a hard four years
Posted by: Iserv4JC | November 5, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Jake -
Thanks much for your insights in this space. I think everyone that reads this would agree that you have been fair, and balanced. Sorry Fox, Jake gets it, you don’t.
Signing off for 2008, Steve from NH
Posted by: Steve from NH | November 5, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
The national numbers are what I care about.
Charisma 51 percent, Character 48 percent, Intoxicated 1 percent.
Posted by: OBAMANATION [uh-bom-uh-NEY-shuhn] | November 5, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Wonderful article, Jake!
I agree with Blue in his 1:27 post that we should “move beyond ‘groups’ and just start thinking of ourselves as Americans.”
I feel like Obama’s win was a big step in that direction.
Posted by: Lydia | November 5, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Janet,
I am Jewish and so very proud that I voted for Obama and that he won, handily! If you think that Sarah Palin supported or even liked Jews, you did not do your homework. The naming of Rahm Emanuel as his Chief of Staff should only validate the fact that Obama not only supports Jews/Israel and values our ideals and ideas. He is now your president too, liek it or not! I , for one, am ecstatic not to have to listen to McCain or Palin.
Posted by: Debbie | November 5, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
I am surprised and gratified that Obama held on and increased the Jewish vote. It is a tribute to how well informed Jews are, a stunning reality check to how gawd awful George W. has been, and that despite the fear and smear of the McCain campaign, more Jews were likely more fearful of the lovely but unworldy creationist Sarah ending up in the driving seat, than of a President Obama.
Let us not forget that the vast majority of Jews have always been against racism and persecution of all kinds and Jews were the highest percentile of white groups that participated in the civil rights movement of the ’60s. Finally, there was an ultimate consensus that Obama would not willfully do harm to Israel and end some of the conflict our country is having in the middle east, which will take the pressure off of Israel as well. Some Jews may have been frightened into veering off their liberal tradition of defending the persecuted, but, clearly, they have risen to this great occassion in our nation’s history, and proudly come home.
Posted by: Madeleine | November 5, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
For the first time in 8 years, I’m proud of my country and feel a sense of hope for America.
Thank you Obama and thank you Sarah Palin for killing McCain’s chances.
Posted by: JR | November 5, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
hello! has anybody seen what Obama accomplished first they said he would be our financial nightmare yet this man has managed to have the best of the worlds finacial money advisors scratching ther heads. talk about money management skills! then they talked about organizational skills Hello! he showed us how to pull together and what the American people can do when we pull together as one I worked like a dog yesterday driving people to the polls that ask for a ride and I seen a light in the peoples eyes like never before I seen kids that were not playing video games glued to the tv I heard discussions and questions asked to define what was going on so that day alone helped towards motivating some of our younger generation on what they can do people can say what they want I just thank god for sending us Obama for the change we need.
Posted by: sharon tolbert | November 5, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
At the end of the day, if he screws it up, we can vote him out in 2012. The same way “we” as a country got him in, we can get him out.
However, I think the man is brilliant and will be able to help turn this country around. Hes already done what most said he couldnt!
Posted by: OSupporter | November 5, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Good call, Pull My Finger. What we need is more patriots like you. Then we’ll be in great shape.
Posted by: DKNY | November 5, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Thankfully, the Jewish voting bloc in this country was not fooled by the stupid attacks on Obama. There is hope.
Posted by: Chima | November 5, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Pacific moderate,
I agree. Conservatives won’t admit it but Palin is the reason McCain lost. Yes she created excitement with the base but completely drove Hillary democrats and Independents to the Obama camp.
I hear Palin 2012. Why would she run in 2012 when it’s her fault McCain lost. McCain’s best bet was Romney and I bet years from today McCain will write a book and state chosing Sarah Palin was the biggest blunder of his political career.
Posted by: Vanessa | November 5, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Glad to hear this result. The Jewish people have always been against discrimination and persecution. The Civil Rights Movement could never have happened without their assistance – some gave their lives,i.e. Schwerner and Goodman to name but two young men from New York who were participating in a Voting Rights drive in Mississippi. God Bless them. They did not die in vain.
Posted by: geecee | November 5, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
The first Kenyan/Caucasian POTUS!
We are all equal in God’s eyes but as in every election many Americans were disenfranchised, intimidated, cheated, bullied, coerced, discouraged and/or defeated in 08!
American money and media did buy a president, and Russia did present the stealth president elect with his first test! :(
And Hillary blew her best chance!
But look to the future! POTUS is not a permanent job!
Sarah Palin 2012 and /or 2016! She is an authentic reformer and will be well prepared to be POTUS in either 4 or 8 years! :)
Posted by: aware2u | November 5, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
janet – why don’t you move to Kenya? Do us all a favor.
Posted by: geecee | November 5, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
aware2u – get real. Palin is the reason McCain lost so badly. And you think we would elect her in 2012? There are simply too many intelligent, capable women (both Republican and Democrat) who would be much better at the job of President or V.P. to pick this airhead. You can’t learn common sense – you either have it or you don’t. She just doesn’t.
Posted by: geecee | November 5, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
McCain now owes America the duty to clean up the mess he made in this country with his poisonous campaign.
As you can see from some of the posters here who have swallowed the poison, the ugly effects linger on beyond their DECISIVE DEFEAT.
JOHN: IF YOU TRULY LOVE AMERICA YOU MUST CLEAN UP THE MESS YOU LEFT BEHIND.
Posted by: Ed from MA | November 5, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Vanessa:
This former democrat and Hillary supporter voted for McCain/Palin 08.
Governor Sarah Palin was the only breath of fresh air in this election! She is an authentic reformer with charisma, courage and wisdom! She was thuggishly attacked for this very reason!
McCain lost because of Bush, his age, his erratic campaign and the economy!
Obama won because of Bush, money, media, charismatic speeches, the economy, his turn to the right in the general and his Alinsky style community organising strategy!
Now he has to do the job he is not prepared for! good advisors will hopefully give him on-the-job training!
He has four years to prove himself?
Posted by: aware2u | November 5, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
another by-product of this election is that citizens now understand that it’s their voting that determines who gets elected….all politicians from this point on, regardless of party affiliation are on notice that if your not taking care of ‘biz’… you will be voted out of office.
problem solving and solutions are the new de-facto reality
Posted by: Blue | November 5, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
OBAMA WINS…..market down 444points, oh well
Posted by: like it or not here I come | November 5, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
If you look at the poll numbers, Jews overwhelmingly supported “Baruth” Obama by a margin of over 70% throughout the race, regardless of socio-economic group.
In this regard, the Republican Jewish Coalition is, and has always been, the odd man out.
United States Jews as a whole are in the liberal side of the Democratic party and always have been.
Posted by: Stephen Gianelli | November 5, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
geecee:
Get over it!
Sarah Palin was McCain’s best choice, and she will be back!
Just remember how bad Obama was in his first debates/interviews! He was pathetic! :(
Governor Palin is authentic, courageous, smart, intuitive, well versed in her areas of expertise, and a quick study in new areas. She did exceptionally well in the extremely short time she had. :)
And Sarah Palin kept smiling! She did not whine everytime she received another thuggish attack!
Senator McCain made many mistakes in his campaign but Governor Palin wasn’t one of them!
Sarah Palin 2012 and/or 2016! :)
Posted by: aware2u | November 5, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Mazel Tov indeed.
A good word for Obama: Hamisch
Posted by: Tungsten | November 5, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
HOORAY FOR PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!!!
HOORAY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!
GOD BLESS OUR DEMOCRACY!!!
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!!!
Posted by: Ed from MA | November 5, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
And I’m out. Thanks for putting together a good blog. Sorry the comments section seems to get so out of hand, but that’s the intertubes for ya.
Posted by: Tungsten | November 5, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
I am Jewish in the great State of California and Obama got my vote.
Mazel Tov, Obama!!!
Posted by: Jeffrey12342001 | November 5, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
3/4ths of the Jewish community voted for Obama…. the other 1/4th did not vote at all…..
Posted by: Levi | November 5, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
I am disappointed the Republicans are still attempting to play down the Jewish vote in Florida an dhow they overwhelmingly voted for Barack Obama. Am I surprised? No! Republicans, and this person is a Republican and found truth, somehow can not admit or tell the truth.
That is why I am changing my party affiliation. I voted for Barack Obama – Joe Biden!! I am so happy I was able to see this historical moment!!
God bless everyone!! Let’s all come together now and support our new President Barack Obama!! We still have more of history to make. United, yes we can!
Posted by: Sharonklim | November 5, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
As a Jew, I am proud, elated that Obama won. I cried, I screamed. I am a mom of 2 children and I have raised both of my kids not to see color as I do not. Funny this article shows up. I was telling my husband why do we see the African American percentange in each state, white vote, woman vote, Hispanic vote but where are the Jewish vote? Why were we not included on TV?
Sarah Palin in my opinion did not get as much of the Jewish vote b/c yes we are a liberal bunch. We believe a woman has a choice, creationisom would impose on not only our religion but many others of this melting pot of a world if those of you have forgotten. There are a multitude of religions here in the United States. She worried alot of people.
Obama, mazel tov on your victory. Make us proud! I know it will not be over night to clean up the mess the Bush Administration has made. I as a citizen of the United States support you in your very tough up hill battle.
G-d Bless you and your family.
Posted by: JewforObama | November 5, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
aware2u – stop deluding yourself. Sarah isn’t going anywhere but back to Alaska to stay. She doesn’t need “polishing”. She has plenty of that. She needs brains. That’s her problem. And she talks hateful rhetoric and her voice is screechy and shrill.
Posted by: geecee | November 5, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Janet
Obama didn’t “brainwash” anyone. Why don’t you join us as we try to move America to a place where people can disagree while maintaining civility and respect for one another.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 5, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
It appears very few groups bought the McCain/Palin fear message.
Posted by: DMR | November 5, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Why would anyone be surprised that Obama received such a large percentage of the Jewish vote?
Jews have always been in the forefront of the Civil Rights and Human Rights movements.
They are far too intelligent to have been fooled by GOP smears.
They have seen it all before.
Savy Republicans are lamenting being left with the Confederacy rump and sparsely-populated white states which are changing.
Definitely–Mazel Tov.
Posted by: susan | November 5, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
America voted for
President Barack Obama!!!!!
We are the United States of America!!!!
Thank you!!!!
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | November 5, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
I can’t believe Jews don’t vote in the best interest for Israel.
I guess if they don’t care, I don’t care.
Posted by: Jocko | November 5, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Sarah Palin was McCain’s best choice, and she will be back!
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If Sarah was McCain best choice than no wonder he lost.
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If she comes back it will be to serve time in jail for that half million dollar house she somehow had built, and hay, lets no leave out the missing $250 million in earmarks for the “bridge to know where” that they can’t find.
NO SARAH, NO WAY, THANKS BUT NO THANKS, WINK WINK
Posted by: becky (the real one) | November 5, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
You know – what I find extremely ironic is all the “let’s join and be nice” garbage coming from some of you on the left. I bet if we looked back at most your posts, we’d find hate filled ramblings, how you can’t stand REPUBLICANS and how Bush is NOT your President, etc. And now, because the mightly Barack is President-Elect, we are all supposed to fall down, worship and adore him. Sorry folks, it doesn’t work that way. Some of us just do NOT like him We don’t have to like him. Doesn’t make us racists. Makes us individuals. And your calls for all this “unity” will be ignored because President-elect Obama has no desire to UNITE anything.
Posted by: Doris | November 5, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Palin was not the reason Obama won or McCain lost. That would be naive and unnecessarily partisan. And the harder you bash her after this, the stronger she will become.
McCain managed Sarah Palin’s introduction to the Republican Party and the national electorate. For a first timer in the big game, she did quite well. She will do better having proven she is a quick study, a fast mover, and loyal. Once free of this campaign and after time to work her day job again, she will be back, stronger, better prepared and firmly in control o her own campaigns.
Sarah Palin is here to stay and that is good because feminism badly needs a new champion that can pull from the center, and women need a new example of how they can have normal lives and still have political and social power. For two long, feminism has been the exclusive base of the extremes of women’s issues and examples, and among the many changes wrought by this election cycle, the emergence of a new face for feminism, not made by her husband’s power or even as a team, but by her own hand, that may be the biggest and most significant change of all.
We’ll be watching.
Posted by: len | November 5, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Muslims voted for the smart and the calm candidate. Did I say the winner?
Posted by: mohamed | November 5, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
I want to add my best wishes and have a part of the wonderful feeling. If it only last a few days it is still great to be here where I am right now. It has been years …….can’t go on overcome.
Posted by: Bonnie Kimberly | November 5, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Mozel Tov to my Jewish friends! Glad we’re in this together!
I have no idea why anyone would want to be President right now. There isn’t a single postive economic indicator,we have a $10 Trillion dollar debt, the largest budget deficit in history, in 8 years we borrowed in record amounts from every nation imaginable to falsly keep the economy going, on top of a two front war…..not going to be fun.
Obama is a TRUE LEADER. He is inspirational. And he is a uniter to many as the above stats show. But he is only one man.
Americans need to realize that we, as Americans, have come to the time to take responsibility.
We cannot keep passing our problems to the next generations. The notion of buy now, borrow now, pay later has to stop with Obama’s administration. This means it will be a tough go for a while. There’s just no way around it.
I belive most of us who supported Barack know this. We are willing to make sacrifices to get the country back on track. No matter who won, that is what it would take. There are no simple and quick solutions to problems that took many years to create.
The sarcastic morons who know nothing other than negativity need to grow up. You lost an election, get over it. Dems need to get over the gloating. It’s no better.
These are the same psuedo-patriotic idiots who think a waving flag makes one patriotic. They prefer to drag people down rather than bringing people up. That’s about as unpatrotic as it gets for an American.
I for one, am sick of it. This is my country. I will not let these morons defeat what is best in us.
We have made the first step in voicing our opposition to those who will dwell in hate filled rhetoric.
I would hope that folks would understand that it makes more sense to work together rather than sitting on your ass hoping for failure. But again, with or without you, we’re moving foreward.
Posted by: The New Patriots | November 5, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
I’m a proud Jewish Republican. We are out there, but keep quiet at Shul. We’ve been slowly saving $$ for the time when our taxes go through the roof. There’s a reason US ex-pats in Israel voted 3 – 1 in favor of McCain. It’s because of Israel’s neighbors.
Posted by: VJ | November 5, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
hey becky
YOU SURE HAVE THAT RIGHT—-THERE IS A LOT MORE TO PALIN THAN ONE COULD IMAGINE–AND IT AINT OVER WITH HER YET.
Posted by: rodney | November 5, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
“The DOW went down 5%. That’s not the kind of change I was expecting.”
More specious reasoning from Ashley Todd’s biggest fan.
“Beyond broad economic concerns, worries about the financial sector intensified after Goldman Sachs Group Inc. began to notify about 3,200 employees globally that they have been lost their jobs as part of a broader plan to slash 10 percent of the investment bank’s work force, a person familiar with the situation said. The cuts were first reported last month. Goldman fell 8 percent, while other financial names also fell; Citigroup Inc. dropped 14 percent.
Commodities stocks also fell after steelmaker ArcelorMittal said it would slash production because of weakening demand. Its stock plunged 21.5 percent.”
Posted by: Ryan C | November 5, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Concerned in OH
Bush is still President until January
Posted by: MM | November 5, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Blue, you wrote:
“all politicians from this point on, regardless of party affiliation are on notice that if your not taking care of ‘biz’… you will be voted out of office.”
How so? To Democrats, was the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac crisis really a travesty that has hurt people, or was it just nothing more than the “October surprise” (a little early) to secure the White House for Obama? If it really was the former, then it should matter how badly Congress mismanaged oversight of FM and FM for years, and how involved in that mismanagement Democrats were, not just Republicans, even if that wouldn’t have been as helpful as the line that “this is all the Republicans’ fault.” It should all come down to what the evidence shows, shouldn’t it? Here are some stories about it: “Who Caused the Economic Crisis?” (Factcheck), “Fannie Mae and the Vast Bipartisan Conspiracy,” (Slate), “How Washington Failed to Rein In Fannie, Freddie” (Washington Post), “Dodd and Frank, step down,” (Providence Journal), “If Not Now, When? (Hartford Courant), and “Senator Dodd’s Notion of Courtesy.” The last two discuss how Sen. Dodd failed as promised to release documents related to loans he got from Countrywide, which was involved in the sub-prime mess.
Posted by: Erika | November 5, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Posted by: Concerned in OH
“I think it’s high time we impeached President-elect 0bama.”
- since he’s not even in office yet that would be hard to do… but, you & yer buddy repubs don’t care whether he can actually get anything accomplished….. all you want is to get back in power so you can further damage America.
I mean, haven’t you folks done enough to ruin America already?
Posted by: Blue | November 5, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
Erika
you folks, Republicans,… LOST the election…
Your starting to sound like the folks who keep wanting to wage the Civil War again….
Republicans are such sore LOSERS.
The only thing you folks care about is winning, not that your able to govern…. you don’t give a damn about America unless your ‘running the show’ or killing someone.
Obama is going to fix what he can with or without Republicans.
Posted by: Blue | November 5, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Initially, I felt McCain had despicably used Palin, no matter how much I disliked her, but now I no longer feel sorry for her after reading new reports about her diva behaviour and tantrums.
This woman apparently, when told to get three suits or the RNC and hire a stylist, took advantage of the money handed to her and went on a big time shopping spree (more then the $150 000) for her family, buying tens of thousands of dollars worth of clothes for her husband. She made the campaign aides charge it to their credit card, and took advantage of a wealthy donor-who got a shock when he got the bill.
Feminist? She demeans us all women by being so supremely ignorant and uninformed, wanting to take away our rights to choose. I can understand her pro-life stance, but it is entirely another thing for her to think it is acceptable for her to force her beliefs on the rest of us whether we like it or not- when she said she wants to overturn Roe v Wade. I didn’t quite like how she would be parading her yougest daughter and baby son al.l over the stage. That poor baby needs his rest, not to be brought to such noisy events almost everyday. There are conservative women more intelligent and worthy of notice then Sarah Palin in the United States Senate and House of Representatives.
Posted by: Grey Matter | November 6, 2008, 4:12 am 4:12 am
Worse spin EVA! I’m glad that the crap the RJC was throwing and their outright lies didn’t effect Sen. Obama!
BTW, funny link to urban dictionary for “meshugenah”. The use of the word in that sentence applies to that dude Brooks!
Posted by: ddc | November 6, 2008, 6:03 am 6:03 am
Obama the messiah, yup that is what Farrakan calls him, and the “Change” outlined in the Jesse Jackson interview with the New York Post. Obama’s real views about Israel and jews locked up in the LA Times. So yes my former Russian immigrant Jews that joined the Revolution only to find the revolution revolting. To bad Joe the Plumber saw the danger to Israel and you didn’t. You can say all you want about Palin and McCain the German jews never saw it coming either. Oh yea abortion rights are more important
Posted by: Dave | November 6, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
Concerned in Ohio -
Maybe you can join Governor Palin in a constitution tutorial. She thinks that freedom of speech protects her from press criticism. You think that someone who hasn’t been sworn in can be impeached.
God, I love this country.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 6, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
But why was the press criticizing Palin? To make her shut up. The press is not neutral.
Posted by: Michelle | November 6, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Brooklyn Democrat, you wrote:
“Maybe you can join Governor Palin in a constitution tutorial. She thinks that freedom of speech protects her from press criticism.”
Have you ever heard of something having a “chilling effect”? The fact that it has been impossible for months now to say anything negative Obama -anything – is the problem, and that’s what Gov. Palin was saying. The media absolutely shirked its role of, to the best of its ability, impartial reporting, in order to be Obama’s pit bull. It became his advocate in this election, always under the pretense of “we’re just calling ’em as we see ’em – Obama just happens to be right once again.” It was really remarkable that thousands upon thousands upon thousands of times Obama could be right – always right. He really has yet to be wrong about anything, as the media has always been there to “explain” his side of things for him. I’m sure many people don’t believe the media was that biased right now, but it’s something that can’t be hid forever, because one secret that it is impossible to keep – despite the fact that many leaders have tried it – is that the president, even if it’s Obama, is only human, and not God. Even when dictators force the media under their control to show them in an absolutely positive light, nobody’s fooled for long. In this case, reality is going to get the upper hand eventually, despite the media being in his corner, and it’s not going to take four years. And the media is going to look foolish and irresponsible. It has a vital role in our democracy, and it’s one that, unlike that of the government, it holds completely on trust that it won’t abuse its power. But in this election, the media essentially became an extension of Obama’s campaign, seeing everything his way and spinning everything his way. And the result of the media’s unprecedented bias is that way, way too many people have him up on an inhuman pedestal at this time. No person or president is perfect. Far, far from it. Just for one example, it was terrible judgment of him, especially in terms of symbolism, to have a communist band play for him. What sort of message does that send to our nation’s young people, so many of whom idolize him? But it is impossible to bring up anything negative about him because, again, it isn’t allowed to say anything negative about him. But it really does no one any favors, ever, to idealize a person to that point that Obama has been. In fact, it’s always hazardous to do so.
Posted by: Erika | November 7, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am
I’m wondering why my response to another poster here at 1:27:55 a.m. today removed. In it I mention that I mistakenly posted it to another thread earlier in the day, but to me it would make the most sense to remove it from “Among Other Voters” and leave it here, where the other poster is more likely to see it.
Posted by: Erika | November 7, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
let us get to work to build a better world for our children no need to fuss and grumble over what went bad.
Posted by: leila ellis | November 7, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm