Loose Ends: Joe the Plumber’s Records-Searcher Punished

What she did was wrong and should be punished.
But the news media has a resposibility to probe the background of the Joe’s who pretend that they are something they are not for political gain. ie. in a position to be a business owner who makes over $250,000/year when he has several liens against him for non payment of taxes and hospital bills.

Let’s put a marker down and see how a member of a different party prying into and releasing personal information on a Democrat fares.
And lying about it too.
Isn’t that what someone once said- the cover-up was worse than the crime?
What about that?

Democrats all the way. Very nice If the roles had been switched we all know what would have happened… Country is rolling towards the end. Way to go Strickland !! U democratic goof!!

She should be fired. Let the lawsuits begin.

Joe the Who? Oh, you mean that tax evading welfare using hospital bill-ducking unlicensed plumber? Yawn. I’m glad the GOP still cares so much about their greatest role model.

“But the news media has a resposibility to probe the background of the Joe’s who pretend that they are something they are not for political gain. ie. in a position to be a business owner who makes over $250,000/year when he has several liens against him for non payment of taxes and hospital bills.”
So you think anyone who Obama approaches should have his or her personal life destroyed?
Nice.
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Don’t be silly neocon. Obama didn’t do any of this to this man. John McCain did. Joe the plumber was voting republican from the start and got famous because he caught Obama in a Gaffe.
That’s it.
Now he has an agent and the whole 9 yards. He had a choice after the debates. He could’ve told everyone he was voting for McCain or that he was just trying to make a point but thats not what he did. He turned himself into a figure head for a McCain campaign, even doing rallies for him.
So let’s break it down so you can’t point the finger.
Joe makes Obama Gaffe>McCain makes Joe Famous> Joe chooses public spot light> Joe gets the scrutiny public figures face.
But this is all the democrats fault right?

She should be fired, and prosecuted.

Hey MJ, it is none of your business or anyonelse’s business. Any citizen can ask a legitimate question to our public servents, and by the way that is exactly who they are suppose to be – Obama did not face the same scrutiny as he should have and further more you need to look up the records of our senators you would be shocked at what their personal lives hold. Check them out they are held accountable to public scrutiny not, private citizens.

Certainly a penalty such as a temporary suspension is correct for improper searching and publication of personal information in government files. This is not by any means a correct punishment for lying to investigators and thereby obstructing justice. The reasons she offered for her politically inspired witchhunt were “not credible.” People make mistakes in the heat of a political campaign, and that’s unfortunate. But the justice system can’t just look the other way when the lapse occurs in favor of Democrats.

( YAWN )……

Our government is entrusted with our most critical personal information. That government employee abused her power by accessing someone personal information and then distributing it to the public. She should be fired immediately and hopefully there is a law in the books to charge her with a crime. Bad decision by Ohio Governor not to fire this person. Bring on the lawsuits.

I just watched Joe W. on Fox News saying he’s suing the state of Ohio, and wants Jones-Kelley (aka modern-day SS) to be fired, and prosecuted. You go Joe! Hope you don’t find some cement shoes around your socks. These people are downright creepy. I agree with him, and also agree that most Americans today are afraid to speak out (I, admittedly, also lump myself into that category) about this flaunted atrocity. I’m never one to sling mud at geographical areas, but fellas, you can keep Ohio. That place looks all jacked up from here. Nothing has “changed”, other than giving the keys to the Gestapo. Well, you wanted change, hope you enjoy it. First, your guns will go (“these people cling to their guns and religion” ring a bell?) Then, the “Civilian Security Force” will come around to re-indoctrinate you. Yepper, change is a rollin’ like a snowball…just remember, hipsters, and guilty whites. You could only be trying to pardon your guilt for your father’s sins to vote for such a radical liberal- Allen Keys was a great black Presidential candidate a few years back, supporting fair tax, and Dems wouldn’t even look at him. YOU ASKED FOR IT! Being too smart for the room won’t matter soon enough – of course, maybe your kid can be gymnast in the Olympic games, and Pledge allegiance to the ACLU. Thank God I’m old enough to know that many died before me in the fervent belief that Communism was not a form of government to aspire towards. Oh, Joe mentioned they (ACLU) haven’t called him yet, either. So surprising. Go ahead, tell me I’m an ignorant hillbilly, black-helicopter kook. Yep, college-educated, white, broke male veteran. All those things you new-age hippies love to hate. That’s fine, you go ahead and join the rally. I’m sadly resigned to hang out, and watch it all unravel. Change, indeed.

She should be fired, or do the honorable thing, and resign. We have voted for change in this country and someone using these kind of unethical tactics doesn’t represent change. Using her state email account to raise money for Obama, and prying into this guy’s background smacks of the Bush-era way of doing things. I’m a Democrat, and I don’t want people with faulty moral compasses being a part of my party’s legacy. I say when this kind of behavior is uncovered, nip it in the bud.

Gee. Maybe Joe will finally hit the $250,000 bracket and have his taxes restored to Clinton administration levels!

She should be punished and thrown to jail for several years! Husein Obama is surely behind all this so he must be impeached immediately.
Sarah Palin / Joe the Plumber 2012!

Let’s not forget that all Joe did was ASK A QUESTION!!!! This whole thing is even worse then when the Clinton Judge and Jury had the two folks arrested (again, in Chicago) years ago when they DARED to yell something out by way protest as the king and queen of chaos went by. All Joe did was ASK A QUESTION. Bambi didn’t even HAVE to answer it. He just accidentally spoke the truth when he did.
For the purposes of supporting our sanity in the dark months ahead, there’s a very important number to keep in mind:
58,343,671 people did NOT vote for Bambi O’Biden. 58,343,671 voted to continue these United States of America as a Constitutional Republic.
Don’t forget on the bad days: there are 58,343,670 people WHO AGREE WITH YOU!!!
He’s gonna implode, folks. The empty suit who has only played roles as a grownup is not going to enjoy this ride. He’s like the stupid dog who accidentally catches the car he was chasing and (think air balloon), “What the hell do I do now?” That’s why you haven’t seen Bambi the last couple of days. He’s off in some room chainsmoking and Rahm Emanuel is slapping him and telling him to get a pair. (Maybe that’s how Hillary’s name came up for SOS)

As a Democratic Ohio voter, I will be showing my dismay with my vote. I guess partisanship is alive and well. All hell breaks loose when anything happens that is “perpetrated” by anyone who is a Republican. But a Democrat does it and it is just a monetary lapse of judgment in a long career? Who knows if this is the only lapse of judgment? Because she says so?

All I can say is, “So what”. So she looked into his file. You may recall that her department didn’t publish the information. All the material that came out on Joe was from other sources, and frankly he invited the scrutiny once he became a major part of McCain’s election message. Anyway, I assure you that we have more to fear from Presidents who refuse to follow the laws of the land (cf. signing statements) than a local department checking on whether someone has paid their child support!

I am sorry…Helen Jones-Kelley should be terminated. She is in position of responsibility and knows she shouldn’t divulge personal information on file. Oh, so its OK to ruin ones reputation, in the case of Joe Wurzelbacher. Just slap Helen on wrist and say don’t do this again you have a lifetime of honorable public service. Its OK to ruin Joe’s “lifetime of honorable private service and reputation but don’t injure the perpetrator.
Where is your “head” Mr Governor is Helen the type of public servant you want to promote? What else has Helen gotten away with!

So then the illegal wire tappings, torture, lying us into a quagmire in Iraq which has killed 4000 plus soldiers and mamed thousands, destroyed families. That’s OK?
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SI, you are total MORON….how about you back up all this garbage with some real facts…examples, REAL examples of these illegal wire tappings, tortures…
Oh by the way….You do actually REMEMBER 9/11 right? AND the fact that there have been ZERO….say it with me liberal fruitcakes…ZERO attacks on American soil since then!
How many lives were meseed up on that day…and in the aftermath of economic upheaval? You libs always seem to have short and selective memories when it suits your cause!
Get grip boy, This is a very dangerous world we live in, unless your ready to face daily bombings and shootings in your own neighborhood, be glad that there are those of us who understand that you need to actually protect this country.
Again, if your your own mentally challenged minds have forgotten, the terrorists that commited the 9/11 attacks were here already in the US. We may never know how many other attacks have been thwarted because the stepped up surveillance, but most sane and intelligent people are quite happy that we have not had a repeat of 9/11.
Torture, … Lets see, I know people that have serve at GITMO… The people there are getting better treatment than most people get here for things that land them in jail. Certainly much better treatment than those various people who have been beheaded by terrorists groups! I suppose you bledding hearts think that if you walked into their cells and kissed their feet, that they would willingly tell you everything they know.
Lying us into Iraq…
Guess what go back and look at Clintons 1998 State of the Union address…You might be surprised at what you find there!

ALL information housing, employment, license, lawsuit, criminal, credit, insurance, education is availble from legit info providers for a fee. I would suggest that ALL such information should be made available to all. We live in an open society—Secrets only belong in totalitarian societies. Terrorists, Ner-do-wells, child-molesters and crooked officials presently too easily hide behind so-called “confidentiality” and “privacy” laws. ALL info should be free and on open.

I think everyone here is missing the point. Whether he is a dem or repub does it matter when someone’s privacy is violated. Ah were is the ACLU, what about if this happen to you would you not want the person who violated your privacy to be punished. Here all I see is partisan bickering and no one even cares about a persons constitutional rights and just on what side he is on???? Has it gotten to hate so much that we can even justify the use of big brother??? Get off you partisan asses and look at the what is really going on. Of the 18 checks run on him only three were requested from the media.

It’s too bad that delusional, shut-ins with grandiose self-important ideations get access to blogs and tv interviews and can exist in this society under false pretenses and then want to burrow in the mud of anonymity to hide after attacking anybody who disagrees with them, claiming “privacy priviledge”.
Yes, I argue that the law should be such that it would make everyone de-cloak (to borrow a Star Trek term) and reveal their true identities and hold everyone accountable and allow everyone the freedom to scrutinize fact from fiction. What a better democracy if everything was in the “sunshine” and all biases and hidden agendas and past crimes, mental infermities and notorieties revealed.

Will they throw the guys who tapped into Obamas phone in jail. NO, will they be fired. So far they are getting 2 weeks unpaid leave. This kind of stuff happens to all kinds of people who should know better. But looking at their records and service to the oompanies is also importand to consider. Listen that creep Larry Craig is still in Congress pending out come of appeals and a convicted felon was almost elected in Alaska. Strange things are happening so fast that it makes your head spin. But each case must be judged on its merits.

Kudos to the democrats on this board who are advocating fairness. There are many good conservatives and liberals who do believe in things like fair treatment under the law and they see the hyprocrisy. I am a conservative (not neo-con, not religious, actual conservative) and am smart enough to recognize both parties have been hijacked.
Just as hopefully the GOPs loss will force some of the neocons out and spring real conservative leadership I hope that the sane minded democrats can oust the extremist left that has taken over the democratic party.
To the democrats on the board who are saying probing a private citizens record is ok you are total hypocrites. You might as well not EVER say anything about the patriot act, or ANY invasion of privacy issue.
It’s sad that the ACLU and other privacy groups have become so blatently biased along with the MSM. Regardless of your political affiliations america is losing out fast. An unethical and biased media can turn on anyone they please. Hopefully levelheaded democrats can see this obvious bias and we can all figure out a way to try to avoid the complete decimation of any credible media left in the US.
It’s sad when I have to go to reuters or another foreign news source to get a more accurate picture of US events.

It really is odd that there is such outrage about this lady. “Fire her?”. Sheesh, she’s just some worked up woman who was sure that this guy was a total fake. Personally, I’m pleased that we have obvious evidence that the GOP was using this guy as a tool to fool the rest of the nation. Moreover, is this how McCain would have led? Validating his theories and policies on liars?
If it came out that Obama had a half-aunt that was here illegally – and that info was public (as was Joe’s), I’d consider it a very important fact about our nation’s potential leader. Facts in a race like this seemed to be far and few between. I’d consider the person looking that up to be “responsible” and someone who is truly patriotic. She did some wrong, and deserves some punishment… perhaps, but this is no different than someone who catches a mugger and then get’s arrested for punching him too hard.
My favorite argument is, “If the GOP had done this heads would roll!!”. True or false, it is this attitude that is constantly excusing politicians from idiotic actions. Rather than dealing with the actual problem, they choose to deal with some fantasy result that didn’t actually happen…. IF it benefits their argument of the day.
Pretty sad. And, as a republican, I’ve got to say, after listening to the shrieking children on the right desperate for some consolation prize, I’m looking for a different party.

OH:
I find it most often happens that ‘right wingers’ come here, bring up race and then accuse others of throwing racism in their faces.
That’s the truth of the ploy . . . and you’ve demonstrated it yet again.

Get over it all you guys and gals that
voted. Obama won the election. Joe the
plumber doesn’t matter at this point.

DL
I agree. Her employer can make a judgement call but Joe should pursue this in court.

Maybe the ACLU knows more than you all about Joe Wurzelplumber and his background, and they don’t want to ruin their credibility by getting involved with a political plant. There are suspicious associations, coincidences, and contradictions involved that point to him being just that.

What seems to be lost is the notion of who works for whom.
Does Strickland and H-J-K work for Obama or the people of Ohio?
30-days unpaid leave for helping BHO? That’s a new bulleted item on her resume!!!

This is a empeachable offense, but Obama will NEVER be president anyway.
Have you heard? ALL of Californias electoral votes MUST be awarded to Ambasadoor Alan Keyes! The reason is that California law requires the president to be a “natural born” citizen.
Obama did not have a natural birth, so he is out. McCain was born in Panama, so the California Secretary of State cannot award the votes to him. This leaves Ambasador Keyes as the remaining one on the ballot.
This is a HUGE loose of electoral votes for Obama. We may yet have the first black president, but it will be KEYES, NOT OBAMA!
Hold on to your hats my friends. This ELECTION IS NOT OVER YET!

There are two kinds of people. Those who want to be Right all the time and those who want to be Correct. We all run into those people who want to be Right all the
time. We just blow them off. The only people they fool is themselves. People who want to be Correct don’t mind being corrected. It makes you more humble and more of a whole person. Truth certainly sets us all free. Lets stop trying to be Right and look for the truth together. After all, we’re all in this together and either can lose a lot together, or, can take back our country together.

The only crime for which Administrator Helen Jones-Kelly is guilty: is that she didn’t do a more complete record search on all the political plants in all aspects of Ohio government and media and donors and bloggers.