By Dschabner

Nov 2, 2008 11:10pm

Nadler Criticizes Obama’s ‘Courage’

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-NY, was down in Florida over the weekend, and one supposes that he thought he was helping Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., but it will ultimately be hard to make that case.

Pamela Geller at Atlas Shrugged has posted some video of Nadler at a synagogue in Boca Raton trying to explain why Obama was able to stay in Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church for 20 years.

He starts off my saying he has no idea of what he’s talking about. And then he proceeds to open mouth, insert foot.

Says Nadler: “I have no personal knowledge of what I’m about to say. What I’m about to say is my guess…”

Hoo boy.

“My guess,” Nadler said, “knowing how politics works, what I’m about to say is not particularly…”

He searches for the word. Rejects a couple suggestions.

“…not particularly complimentary towards Sen. Obama,” he says.

“Think of the history here,” says the six-term New York congressman. “You have a guy who’s half-white, half-black. He goes to an Ivy League school, comes to Chicago … to start a political career. Doesn’t know anybody.

“Gets involved with community organizing — why? Because that’s how your form a base.  OK. Joins the largest church in the neighborhood. About 8,000 members. … Why did he join the church? … Because that’s how you get to know people.

“Now maybe it takes a couple years,” Nadler says, suggesting that soon Obama starts to think of Wright, “’Jesus, the guy’s a nut, the guy’s a lunatic.’ But you don’t walk out of a church with 8,000 members in your district.”

Suggests a woman: “You don’t walk in though.”

“He didn’t know it when he walked in, presumably,” said Nadler.

And then, the line that may haunt Nadler for four years or longer: “He didn’t have the political courage to make the statement of walking out.

“Now, what does it tell me?” Nadler asked. “It tells me that he wasn’t terribly political courageous. Does it tell me that he agreed with the reverend in any way? No. It tells me he didn’t want to walk out of a church in his district.”

What’s even funnier about this is that the previous time I can recall Nadler talking about Obama was in December 2006, when Jason Horowitz of the New York Observer chatted with him at the Israeli Policy Forum.

Nadler told the Observer that Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., “had called him earlier yesterday to tell him that she was leaning towards running for president, and that he said he would support her. His choice, he explained, was a pragmatic one.

"’I don’t see a lot of other good possibilities in our party,’ said Nadler… ‘Someone like Barack Obama, who is suddenly a real candidate, always worries me, because he is a novice candidate. He hasn’t done it before. Novice candidates, not always, but 95 percent of the time make a mistake. I made some terrible mistakes in office, when I was district leader, no one remembers what they are. I wasn’t in front of all the news cameras.’”

Yes, Congressman Nadler. Heaven forbid that you make a mistake in front of a camera! Only a novice would make such a mistake!

Oy!

- jpt

User Comments

McCain/Bush made gigantic mistakes in their bumbling of the war, the economy, foreign relations, etc. And what do they have combined, 50 years of experience?

Posted by: Sallie | November 2, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm

Nadler’s experience hasn’t helped him here.
I think the real traits needed in a presidential candidate are intelligence, empathy, and the ability to see the big picture. Obama’s got all three and my vote.

Posted by: Lydia | November 2, 2008, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm

Sallie,
you are correct, and i just hope the american’ left to vote will see all things related to bush need to go. they have recked our country.
the republican party needs to go away and regroup and comeback in two or four.
this country is on it’ knees now.
if mccain is elected it will be flat on it’s back with many more lives being lost for Mccain
VICTORY IN IRAQ scheme.
I wish the msm would try to find some positive things to report on.
all of this stuff we are reading hear lately, we can find in the national enquirer.

Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | November 2, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm

There have been several stories in the news cycle today. As always, as it gets closer to an election, they become heated – and unverified. WHy has this site chosen to only highlght the stories which are unfavorable to Obama? The New Republic, which you respect enough to quote from did a story on new revelations from the Keating 5 (Nonexistent coverage here). There have been 80,000 reports made on voting problems (No reporting here. Sarah Palin not only “measured thr drapes” on cable, she suggested we were at war with Iran (No news here.) There is finally some coverage of Palin’s very. very troubling relgious ties (No news here.) The make-up of Congress is up-for-grabs (No news here). But we have NINE coun them – nine pieces on reporting. It’s not complicated. Report both sides of the story.

Posted by: Mara | November 2, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

This is the second reference to Ann Rand. First, the Ann Rand coined phrase, the virtue of selfishness, and now the name of the website, Atlas Shrugged, a title of one of he novels. I doubt if the McCain fans who hang out here are aware of her literary significance and popularity with the Republican Party. I don’t think Ann Rand would be a good interview question on Fox for Palin.

Posted by: kat | November 2, 2008, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm

ok, i have to go, but you have read a few calm, seems to be well thought out comments on this blog right now.
watch when the mccain supporters come on and see how the flavor of the comments will turn.
they will go nasty,silly, and of no use to anyone. but they will be their opinions. and everyone has got one.
but just watch the tone change.

Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | November 2, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Please, please, please spare us another reference to Ayn Rand. I will offer my first-born grandchild. What is with the Ayn Rand fixation? It is worse than the Biden fixation.

Posted by: Mara | November 2, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

He just sounds jealous to me.

Posted by: The Green Monster? | November 2, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

Thank you Nadler you are a patriot.
Look at what the Democrats are trying to pass now and will with the help of Obama.
Nancy Pelosi energy bill. All fossil fuel off limits forever. Shut down all coal power plants nuclear power off limits forever. Is this energy independence.
The Fairness Act giving government the final say so on what you say on TV and Radio. Goodbye freedom of speech.
A bill to make the secret ballot for union elections to go away. Next we will lose the secret ballot on all elections. Hello voter intimidation.
These bills are already on the floor of Congress along with another 300 billion in spending.
Is this the change you want no energy independence, no free speech, no private vote.
That is what you are voting for with Obama.
Please vote for John Mccain.

Posted by: Kim | November 2, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

he could not thought he was helping obama.

Posted by: what?! | November 2, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm

I think most of the public got sick of hearing about Jeremiah Wright back in the Democratic primaries. The story has been exhausted among reasonable Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.

Posted by: kat | November 2, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

All that negativity, has really gotten on my nerves. It really just sounds like me that Barack will have to go against some people in his political party.

Posted by: Against his party | November 2, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm

This must really disappoint you Jake and fellow ObamACORNs.
Frankly, as much as I can’t stomach Nader and want McCain-Palin to win, I admire him for his own personal courage.
Hopefully, we can win this thing without having to replay the Nader comments. But knowing the vindictiveness of the Pelosi regime, Nader could be in big trouble for stating the obvious.

Posted by: Captain America | November 2, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

Mara, But Ann Rand is one of the very few artists that the Republicans can claim. Someone is apparently feeling inspired by her tonight.

Posted by: kat | November 2, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

Obama is a politician with a great campaign manager.
He is smoother than most, dirtier than some.
He is a wimp who always takes the easy road… as with his countless use of the yellow “present” vote… a position in which he excells.
Yeh, he’ soundz good until you realize that what he’s orating is the same spiel Bush gave us eight and four years ago.
CHANGE. HAH! Bush GAVE us change!
Did you like it?
The next four years will be rocky;
We do NOT need a sweet talking Chicago politician at our helm!
We need someone with guts and experience, someone who will put this country first…. someone who is not just an empty suit and the sultry appeal of a pied piper!
Be careful what you wish for!
Be careful who you vote for.
Neither candidate can live up to his promises, but McCain can keep us safer.

Posted by: america*centric | November 2, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Where’s the mistake Jake? Why else do you think Obama was in that church? This is a guy who doesn’t even know the difference between Sanford and Son and The Jeffersons.

Posted by: Michelle | November 2, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

SAY NO TO OBAMA FOR THE SAKE OF AMERICA AND ISRAEL .VOTE FOR MCCAIN

Posted by: SAM IN FLORIDA | November 2, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

In the minds of long-time politicians like Nadler, all decisions are viewed through a political lens.
In their minds, Obama’s decision to stay had nothing to do with the relationships he may have formed with any of the 8,000 parishioners nor with the great social work the church was performing in the community.
Everything should be black or white. You’re either with us or against us. No middle ground. I’ve personally had enough of that kind of politics.

Posted by: cincyr | November 2, 2008, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm

Obama has hidden every possible piece of harmful information. He has never been a leader but just a continuing candidate. He voted “present” most of the time when in the IL senate and ducks whenever anything demands making a choice. His “friends” are all communists, marxists, socialists and terrorists but he will distance himself as much as he can from them when those relationships make him look bad. His rhetoric changes with the political wind. His plans for tax increases will cripple this country. He first said that everyone earning under $250K would get a tax break and that the “wealthy” who earn over that (those “selfish” and non “patriotic” folks who don’t want to “share the wealth” with folks who pay NO taxes at all!!!!) would subsidize these tax breaks. Now it is down to $120K.

Posted by: Kim | November 2, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

I think most people have made up their minds. My guess is the ‘undecideds’ will either not show up to vote or vote McCain.
There’s nothing new going on here…

Posted by: MIguy | November 2, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Give the poor guy some slack, after all, how would anyone explain Obama being in Rev Wright’s church for 20+ years???!!

Posted by: Cassandra Washington | November 2, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

>>>kat | Nov 2, 2008 11:29:58 PM
It’s not “Ann Rand”.
It’s “AYN Rand”.

Posted by: america*centric | November 2, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

Barack Obama will be the next president of the United States! 2 more days till the country can finally unite, White, Black, Hispanic, Asian, native American, etc etc. I can’t wait!

Posted by: Kathy | November 2, 2008, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm

why the need to list you are black, jew, or otherwise.
just state your opinion.
it will hold no more or no less weight to say you are a jew or black,
before you make your comments.
i am married to a person who is jewish from mother and persian from father.
and we are all voting for obama.
the rest of the world is watching us.
they know that the supreme court gave bush his first term.
the rest of the world knows the bush/rove dirt machine did a job on us in o4
but if we elect mccain, i don’t think our allies will be so forgiving.
they will not play along with mccain and his victory in iraq game.
we do need a change, what kind of change?
a change from anything republican this time around.
send the republicans away, the REAL republican have already, gone, and are regrouping. the crowd that is running the republican right now are the debased. and if truth be told, john mccain would not have anything to do with the whole lot of them.
it is just that he needs them because they are his ONLY chance to try and win this election.
cindy mccain looks at the people coming to the mccain rallys as if there were beings from out of space.

Posted by: what?! | November 2, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm

kim,
what makes YOU so sure obama has hidden anything?

Posted by: what?! | November 2, 2008, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

Reverend Wright served in the military for God sake! He doesn’t like America for the way they treated blacks back in the day! Obama and his beautiful family attended his church to worship God and Jesus Christ. This is not a big deal.

Posted by: Kathy | November 2, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

I know we are moving to a new and glorious phase in our human existence on this earth.
we have:
One God
One Planet
we are
One People.
ONE PLANET, ONE PEOPLE, PLEASE
and with all American pulling together,
we will LEAD the world in this.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08,for a united people

Posted by: what?! | November 2, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

Nadar, if you are on the ballot in my state, I will vote for you.
Otherwise I am voting the green party.
Obama, nah. McCain, never.
I don’t like how Obama moved toward the center on his issues.
I don’t think he is firm enough to be an effective leader – he moved right from his original stances on the issues, I rest my case.
I think that maybe he needs just a bit more experience, Biden said it and Nadar said it.

Posted by: groovin | November 2, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

The candidate that promises the most and gets the majority of people to believe it, is elected. People need to wake up and pay off their debt. There is a foul wind about Barack Obama that is just beginning to blow. I think this election is going to surprise people with some kind of weird finish.

Posted by: Kim | November 2, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

If Obama was this bad guy that many of you try to make him out to be, why do tens of thousands of people show up at his rallies to support him? McCain and Palin barely got a few thousand people. Palin’s negative ratings are more than her positive. America has a 65 percent favorable rating of Obama. Mccain barely has 45 percent. Obama comes across as a caring and smart man, who will unite this country and change this country. McCain is mean old and grumpy and Palin is everything you don’t like in a person, plus she is extremely unqualified for the job.

Posted by: Kathy | November 2, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

kathy,
This IS a big deal.
Especially when some people refer to him as the Messiah, and others want to put an end to Israel!

Posted by: just thinking.... | November 2, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm

The final Gallup 2008 pre-election poll — based on Oct. 31-Nov. 2 Gallup Poll Daily tracking — shows Barack Obama with a 53% to 42% advantage over John McCain among likely voters. When undecided voters are allocated proportionately to the two candidates to better approximate the actual vote, the estimate becomes 55% for Obama to 44% for McCain.

Posted by: just Vote | November 2, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

to kathy .do u know all dictators and tyrants had big crowds attending their rallys .read and study history .vote mccain

Posted by: sam | November 2, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm

Who cares what people call him. People are going to call you what ever they want to call you. You can’t control any of that. And Obama has very strong support from the Jewish community. The latest poll had Obama winning 3 to 1 among Jewish voters. Why is it that mostly everyone who is not Jewish worry about Obama’s support for the country?

Posted by: Kathy | November 2, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

It’s interesting that whenever someone, as Jake described it, puts their foot in their mouth it is usually because they are stating the truth.
Jake’s criticism of Rep Nadler is, “only a novice would make such a mistake!” Jake is directing the fire toward Rep. Nadler by, in effect, saying Nadler is pol and as one he is suppose to obscure the truth so he is therefore not doing a good job. I respect Jake’s work, but man that is just too cynical! How about, instead, as a citizen and journalist contemplating what Rep. Nadler said?
You want to call Rep. Nadler’s statement a “gaffe”? That is fine. But don’t forget what a gaffe is.
A gaffe is when a person accidentally voices the thruth.

Posted by: topo2005 | November 2, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Kim. I agree completely. We must pay off out debt. We must stop pretending that buliding Islamic governments in the Middle East, which has cost us trillions of dollars, is free. We must not pretend that building up the largest deficit in the history of our nation, which is what George Bush has done – and John McCain will continue – will not hurt our children. We must not pretend that the Bush policies that favored the rich – and which McCain will continue – can build a stable economy which is what we had under Clinton. We’ve got to stop pretending that Wall Street can be run without regulation. We’ve just seen what happens when we try to follow that fantasy. There must be a solid middle class for there to be a solid American economy – it has always been that way and it always will.

Posted by: Mara | November 2, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm

This guy is in no position to talk about experience as being beneficial to one’s performance.

Posted by: Leslie | November 3, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am

kathy im jewish and dont believe the polls .all of my family friends are voting for mccain. the jews dont want to tell the pollster that bec. they dont want to be called racist.so ur numbers are wrong.i guarantee u obama will get the lowest jewish vote then any democrat ever got .mark my words.u can go to any yeshivah or temple ull see what im saying.

Posted by: sam | November 3, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

Guess McCain was lying when he said that Barack Obama was a good American, a decent man who loved his family, and that there was nothing for anyone to be afraid of should be become President. (I mean, if there was, McCain, an honorable man who was not born in this country, would be screaming his head off with details for months rather than just making inneuendos.) But some of you are terribly smart…but, isn’t it funny, the “facts” only started coming out when McCain was slipping in the polls, and the “facts” have been the same old “facts” since Nixon started his campaigns of destroy the other candidate (not that he always could). It is painful to read some of these comments of people who really don’t know what the issues are. But you are willing to be told the smear of the day and believe it. Oh, by the way, Jeremiah Wright has long been considered a major representative of Christianity in this country and was invited a few times to the White House by both parties. He is perhaps a remnant of an older time, but he did model his preaching on the prophet Jeremiah. Those of you who don’t know the prophet Jeremiah might try looking him up and finding out what he was about. If you dare to cloud your mind with a little thinking of your own. anyway, enjoy going to the polls and voting YOUR minds on Tuesday.

Posted by: Miriamc | November 3, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

People support Obama because they are tired of the divisiveness of the Republican party. I honestly thought John McCain was the best hope for that Republican party but he gave into the right wing of his party when he hired Bush’s people to run his campaign, and he made it worse when he picked Sarah Palin to be his vice president after one 15 minute interview. We need a president who will bring people together and bring change to our economic and foreign policies. Obama is the man for the job.

Posted by: Kathy | November 3, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Sam,
I hope you are right. I am not proud of my country if they elect Obama. It will break my heart and be a very sad day for my family. It will be a sad day for this country.

Posted by: Kim | November 3, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

Again, NINE anti-Obama stories in one day. That’s not a record – but if I wanted a reputation as an independent news outlet – and not the Drudge report – I’d at least try to make it 75/25 or maybe even 60/40. Report both sides of the issues and report on all of the candidates.

Posted by: Mara | November 3, 2008, 12:03 am 12:03 am

It’s funny how McCain and his supporters don’t believe the polls when they are going against them, but if it weren’t going against them.. would they believe the polls? Yeah most likely.
The fact is that Jewish Americans believe in Obama’s message of Peace and Unity, not McCain and Palin’s message of divide and distract to win an election.

Posted by: Kathy | November 3, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am

I think this election is going to surprise people with some kind of weird finish……………….
As in Republicans are a endangered
species…………
THE REPUBLICANS HAVE SOME NERVE TO EVEN
BE RUNNING AFTER STARTING A WAR BY
WHAT TURNS OUT TO BE A MISTAKE AS
IRAQ HAD NO NUKES AND NO DANGER
TO ANYONE .. McCAIN WANTS TO STAY IN
A IN IRAQ AND POUR TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS
REBUILDING THEM … AND GUESS WHAT
IN THE END IRAQ WILL BE A CLONE OF
IRAN ….. PAID FOR BY THE UNTIED STATES

Posted by: Anita Yova | November 3, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

no, alex, that would be John mccain’ next move in his support of the bush national security doctrine.
where have you been.
bush already has the right to tap your phone, and people have had their doors cracked down, and people have disappeared.
our allies are losing patience with us.
france and germany already see they have leaders are smarter than who we have now. and since mccain has not told us otherwise, there is no reason he will not continue to do what bush has already started. mccain has been in support of bush all the way, why would he make a radical turn and do something else, if mccain was such a mavrick, he would not be having the trouble he is having now. don’t tell me you are a mavrick, show me.
no as brother joe said, mccain has not been a mavrick when it comes to bush,
he has- been a “sidekick”-riding shotgun.
our allies will not stomach more war.
and mccain wants victory in iraq.
well, as soon as he starts that, we will start to have national security problems. and to counter that, if you still have a door (since mccain economic policies are lock step with bush) no reason to thing mccain is going to do anything radical on the economic side different from bush
so the economy will cont’ to slide.
if your door is knocked down, you may not need to worry about it, you will probally be in iraq.
mccain said he did not know anything about the economy, he was probally going to need to rely on vp or someone else-to me that was ok, that signaled
he was going to pick romney-should have been the one.
but what did the mavrick do?
grabbed someone none of us knew anything about.
and it tell me no only does mccain not know how to run a campaign, hence will not know how to run this country.
he probally does not surround himself with anyone who knows anything, or he will not listen.
if his wife runs a successful business,
she should have been a great counsel,and advised him on his vp pick.
she looks like she would have told him
“no, you are making a mistake”
the only reason i can imagine cindy mccain would not have said that to john mccain, is because, she knew he would not listen.
mccain maybe more like bush than we think.
he said he did not know anything about the economy.
when someone tells you something straight out…you better believe them.
noway, no how, no mccain.-HRC

Posted by: what?! | November 3, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am

Iraq… Katrina…..economy hits the skids….
on and on and on ……
McCain + Bush and the rest….
time to fire them all…..

Posted by: dewde | November 3, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

Sam,
Believe in what you want to.
Kathy even wants to take your hopes away from you. As if it is killing her that you and your family are hoping for a Mccain victory. You have not given up. Good for you. That is a fighting American spirit.

Posted by: Kim | November 3, 2008, 12:07 am 12:07 am

I must commend Nad’s for his own political courage. I’m sure its very difficult for a senator from New York pander to the Jewish vote. While his half baked remarks begin with a logical premise they devolve rapidly. I guess to get elected in his district it never hurts to spout histrionic platitudes about the Holocaust and follow up with some BS about Isreali “democracy.” Go get ‘em Nadler, your awsome.

Posted by: Stuart S | November 3, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Nothing that Obama says or does holds much interest to me. The man is corrupt and without a core. He embodies everything I detest in another human being: cold, arrogant, disinterested, uninformed, humorless, entitled, smug, and untrustworthy.
The idolatry leaves me questioning why so many intelligent people, those we have come to look up to, would accept this man as a leader. Head scratching.

Posted by: Kim | November 3, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am

Polyical courage?
McCain, who has bucked his own party many times. Or Obama. Ummm….
I think if they adminstered truth serum to Rep. Nadler he would have to come out and say that as an patriotic American and a man concerned about the security of friend Israel, he voted for….
McCain. If he didn’t vote this way, then shame on him!

Posted by: topo2005 | November 3, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

People go to Obama’s rallies for different reasons. I took my kids out of school so they could see him first hand. Obama is a real statesman with the vision and courage to lead our country.
His rallies are impactful as I was with two staunch Republican friends who were nervous about attending. They just cast their votes for Obama in early voting last week.

Posted by: just Vote | November 3, 2008, 12:09 am 12:09 am

People don’t “blindly” follow Obama nor is there a “foul wind” about him, whatever that even means. These statements are just so bizarre. I am an Ivy League graduate, white and middle-aged. I read the policy positions of both candidates. McCain has no plan, really – for anything. He made a ludicrous choice for VP, which speaks directly to his decision-making capability.

Posted by: Greendale | November 3, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-NY just admit it… you can offer excuses… be a man and just say it… He’s black!
I am a democrat, I donated a lot of money, and I early voted for Obama.
I’m glad that I’m not in your district Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-NY, I would have to vote Republican just to vote againest your racist hinnie!

Posted by: mr sleepy | November 3, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am

First post wonders how millions of us fall for Obama. Easy. Conservatives have had their chance for 8 years, left us with trillions in debt, a scandal a month and then some, a looming recession/depression, an unnecessary war, never did find that Obama guy, disdain from our usual allies, gave us a president/dictator with no moral compass, who abused power and who did not reach across the table — not even once!! We’re tired of conservative rule for the few. Most of us would vote for a dog catcher before a republican again!

Posted by: jim in California | November 3, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

Nothing that Obama says or does holds much interest to me. The man is corrupt and without a core. He embodies everything I detest in another human being: cold, arrogant, disinterested, uninformed, humorless, entitled, smug, and untrustworthy.
_____________________________________________
That’s really sad that you feel close enough to Obama to feel so passionately strongly against him.

Posted by: just Vote | November 3, 2008, 12:16 am 12:16 am

The first moment I realized that Obama was over rated and his followers were not interested in what I was is when I asked his supporter how Obama’s plan got us to national health care and they told me it was unimportant. 47 million people are without health care and this person felt how we got these people health care was unimportant? I don’t think so.
I started paying attention from that moment on and I didn’t like what I saw AT ALL.

Posted by: Kim | November 3, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Do you think calling Obama a messiah or emphasizing his middle name is going to help McCain?

Posted by: Kathy | November 3, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

John McCain said the truth:
If Obama wanted to run against Bush, he was four years too late!
I’m still trying to figure out how the delegates for the Democratic Primary permitted themselves to be BOUGHT!
I’m still trying to figure out how this smooth talking operator with nothing behind him but two books of self-hype loosely based on his life and thoughts… along with his dulcet tones cooing for “Change”… could have fooled so many of you!
He is a Chicago politician! He’s learned from the worst!
We have the highest taxes in the COUNTRY!
Do you really want this country to share this particular aspect with Illinois?
WAKE UP!
>

Posted by: just thinking.... | November 3, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am

Obama Called Out for Comments About Bankrupting Coal Fired Power Plants Save Email Print
Posted: 7:27 PM Nov 2, 2008
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A | A | A CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) — With only hours before election day, coal has become a major topic of Decision 2008.
Sunday comments surfaced from a taped interview Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama did with the San Francisco Chronicle in January.
In the interview, which has been available online for months, Obama talks about the importance of coal. He went on to talk about his cap and trade proposal to help curb global warming.
“If somebody wants to build a coal power plant they can, it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted,” Barack Obama said to the San Francisco Chronicle in January.
The campaign for Republican presidential candidate John McCain jumped on those comments today and is already sending out taped phone messages to voters in Ohio.
Campaigning in Marietta today, McCain’s running mate Sarah Palin mentioned the Obama comments.
“He said that, sure, if the industry wants to build coal-fired power plants, then they can go ahead and try, he says, but they can do it only in a way that will bankrupt the coal industry, and he’s comfortable letting that happen. And you got to listen to the tape,” Sarah Palin said.
The Obama campaign says the quote is being taken out of context and that Obama is actually from a coal state and is a strong supporter of the industry.
The campaign sent a statement today saying “the point Obama is making is that we need a transition from coal burning power plants built with old technology to plants built with advanced technologies.”
VOTE MCCAIN VOTE MCCAIN

Posted by: NO NO OBAMA | November 3, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am

My heart is heavy tonight as the end approaches. I am not sure if all the late breaking news surrounding Obama will elicit the desired effect as it is so late into the campaign. Many votes have been cast at this hour and it is too late to take them back.
Obama could announce that he was the third Menendez brother and the press would gloss over on his behalf.

Posted by: Kim | November 3, 2008, 12:22 am 12:22 am

as the smell of Republican desperation fills the air, one wonders what the ‘self righteous’ right-wing will do late night Nov. 4th…….until then,
a final flurry of hate, fear, lies and innuendo……and then well deserved obscurity and derision.

Posted by: Blue | November 3, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

KIM .dont give up just go and vote and tell ur friends to and mccain will win .i guarantee u that .the polls are wrong .the media wants u to think its over its not .go and vote for john mccain to save this country from a new tyrant.

Posted by: sam | November 3, 2008, 12:28 am 12:28 am

“The Obama campaign says the quote is being taken out of context and that Obama is actually from a coal state and is a strong supporter of the industry.”
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,, AND WHAT STATE WOULD THAT BE?
The 57th?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by: hmmmmm | November 3, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am

Uh….you….on the coal story…McCain is for cap and trade too…same as Obama…do your research or save your words.

Posted by: Karen | November 3, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am

kim, still has not told us why she/he is so sure obama is hiding something.
kim, why are you so sure obama is hiding something?

Posted by: what?! | November 3, 2008, 12:37 am 12:37 am

Thank you for that post Sam!!!
I am voting for McCain on Tuesday and so is my entire family.

Posted by: Kim | November 3, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

if the republican so how find a way to steal this election.
and john mccain wins,
it will only be because God and the Cosmos has decided that it really is time for the decline of the united states as we have known it.
and that may not be such a bad thing.
it is time for us the join the rest of the world, instead of thinking we rule the world.
no john mccain is not george bush.
but if john mccain had been half of the mavrick he is telling us he is-maybe he could have kicked up enough dust,to have stopped some of the things the bush adm. has done to this country and around the world.
you mccain supporters, who want mccain to win so bad, it must not matter to you
how bad our standing is with the rest of the allied world.
bush invading iraq, was a wrong headed move.
mccain losing will signal to the rest of the world we are trying to right the wrong we have done.
if obama does half of what he is saying he will try to get done, we will all be better off in four years.
if obama does not do half of what he is saying he will try to do. at least, by we, the american people electing him
we will say to the world we tried to make it better.
a mccain presidency at this time, will be the wrong thing all around for the usa and the world.
this country has been snake bit by the republican party, we need to give this a rest this time around.

Posted by: what?! | November 3, 2008, 12:53 am 12:53 am

I also amd a graduate and do not think that the diploma also lend anybody a patent for brains.
“I am an Ivy League graduate, white and middle-aged. I read the policy positions of both candidates. McCain has no plan, really – for anything. He made a ludicrous choice for VP, which speaks directly to his decision-making capability. ”
You are perfectly free to think what you think, but if you state that McCain has “no plan, really – for anything” you better support it with the plans Obama has. And also with some proof of why are Obama’s plans better than those “no” plans of McCain. As far as your Ivy League graduate putting down of Ms Palin here is my oppinion to that. It might, or might not apply to you, but for sure at least it will force you to be more careful with the bright glow of your halo. Ach, please also remember all the blunders Mr Obama made when he was trying to get into the saddle.
It amuses me over and over again how all the self-esteem lacking man are willing to do and say anything to put down a smart, good looking, educated and dominating woman, a woman that dared to reach for and achieve goals they would never even consider dreaming about, as those goals come with way too much responsibility and scrutiny . Dominating part is their biggest problem.
I can’t help but wonder what kind of woman did they marry; most probably divorce as well, only to re-marry the same kind. Which is what makes them so vulnerable, totally unable to see the benefit our country would enjoy by larger diversity. I also wonder, would it be the same, would they be the same way negative, sometimes mean and dirty if their daughter would be the one running for the same office? I bet it would not. The pride of a good parent would take over and lend all possible support for their offspring even if it would in the process move heaven and earth.
By recognizing our own shortcomings we might be able to recognize other’s advantages.

Posted by: Get real | November 3, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am

Now, what does it tell me?” Nadler asked. “It tells me that he wasn’t terribly political courageous.”
Courage, poltical-wise and just plain being a man-wise? Hmmm. McCain or Obama?.. McCain or Obama?
I think we all know the answer to that one.
McCain. He made one mistake and has owned up to it ever since anytime someone asks. That being the Keating Five. (By the way the Democratic investigatot on that case, esteemed lawyer Bob Bennet, said McCain’s involvemant was minimal and he shouldn’t have been tarred with the brush as the the other four Senators, all Democrats.)
Obama, on the other hand, conveniently plays stupid when asked about Ayers, Rev. Wright, Restko and countless other scuzzy assocaites. He is either stupid or a coward.
But he talks good. Whoopee.

Posted by: topo2005 | November 3, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am

I think Nadler is an imbecile. Talk about hoof and mouth disease. How does someone so dumb get into office in the first place? Oh wait a second, America voted for GWB. There’s a lesson to be learned here though–never let a moron stand in front of a camera or microphone without a teleprompter. (or without competent staff to drag him away before he says anything)

Posted by: Larry | November 3, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am

What will really be interesting is how good at marginalizing themselves Republicans will be. After Nov. 4th, Palin will become the new best buddy of the right-wing fringe hate crowd. They will most likely try and make her into their new theocratic ‘leader’.

Posted by: Blue | November 3, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am

Is Nadler an imbecile, as some here have called him, or a man who can’t keep in the lie of Obama anymore?

Posted by: topo2005 | November 3, 2008, 1:09 am 1:09 am

You gotta admit Nadler offers new insight into the mind of Obama. Obama is a politician’s politician. “You don’t walk away from an 8,000 member church” even if the pastor is a lunatic. Get ready for the Obama ride folks, it’s going to be a wild one.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | November 3, 2008, 1:15 am 1:15 am

Mr Tepper. Nadler knows Obama is no friend of Israel. You know it too. May your name be erased from The Book of Life for supporting a man who stands with Khalidi, Farrakhan and Ayers

Posted by: Cara | November 3, 2008, 1:16 am 1:16 am

he is an imbecile

Posted by: what?! | November 3, 2008, 1:18 am 1:18 am

“Gets involved with community organizing — why? Because that’s how your form a base. OK. Joins the largest church in the neighborhood. About 8,000 members. … Why did he join the church? … Because that’s how you get to know people.”
So let me get this straight: Obama wasn’t a community organizer because of a sense of civic duty or altruism and, instead, it was just playing the political game in Chicago, pure and simple?
Well,I am shocked!

Posted by: topo2005 | November 3, 2008, 1:25 am 1:25 am

cara:
you do know that John McCain thought Khalidi was a good guy….
the International Republican Institute, with McCain at the helm, gave Khalidi’s Centre for Palestine Research and Studies a $448,000 grant in the late 1990s.
I know it doesn’t serve your perverse rhetoric but it is the truth, and it’s accurate.

Posted by: Blue | November 3, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am

My Jewish friends…..wake up…..as Oprah says “When people show you who they are, believe them”…….when you hang with Wright, Khalidi and Farrakhan….you are not a friend of the Jews.
SHOW ME WHO YOU ARE WITH AND I’LL TELL YOU WHO YOU ARE.

Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | November 3, 2008, 1:33 am 1:33 am

and why could his being a community organizer not be for good reason, just as he said?
i think some of you people have transferred onto obama what you would do.
why could’t the man have been a community organizer as a part of his civic duty.
“to whom much is given, much is expected’
he saw a need and saw he could fill it
why does it need to be anything more than that?

Posted by: what?! | November 3, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

It’s pretty clear that Nadler doesn’t know what he’s talking about. First – Obama’s faith in Jesus Christ is genuine. It’s cynical to think otherwise. Second – Jeremiah Wright’s 30+ years of community service and outreach are well-documented. Wright has been pulled way out of context and to say otherwise is just plain silly. Also, we might note that Nadler, as a non-Christian, probably doesn’t fully understand the Christian faith nor what Jeremiah Wright teaches.

Posted by: benintn | November 3, 2008, 1:35 am 1:35 am

G-d has nothing to do with politics.
That is a realm way below His realm.
If this country enters a decline, it will because of our poor choices, not because of “G-d’s will”!
“Render unto Caesar …..”
Remember that, ye friends, Virginians and other countrymen?
Don’t blame “G-d” for the mistakes we make with our gifted free will!

Posted by: hmmmmm | November 3, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am

I think the myth of “The One” is crumbling before they even had a chance to measure for those drapes.
Years from now, after all the truth aboiut Obama comes out into the open, and if McCain pulls out a victory in part because of what Rep. Nadler said, historians will dub the New York Congessman as “The Accidental Hero” of our time.
Nadler an imbecile? If he is one then he may end up being the first imbecile to ever have statues erected in his honor. Statues from coast to coast (and in Israel, too.) History will tell.

Posted by: topo2005 | November 3, 2008, 1:39 am 1:39 am

to all of you obama haters,
when i think about it, and read your comments, i can see why it is easy for you not to believe anything these politician tell you, i mean after you fell for bush and his crew, and saw what a job they have done to this country, it would be hard to believe.
but what i don’t understand is John mccain has told you nothing new, offers more of the same, really, it is not just a catchy campaign sloagan, he has offered nothing in the way of helping the poor and middle class.
john mccain should not win, just on the principle, that smart thinking people would not vote for any republican this time around, no matter who it is, after what they have done,
better off than we were eight years?
we are worse off than i have ever seen in my lifetime. and i am all most sixty years old.
most of the elected republican officials who are up for re-election cannot stand bush or mccain, because they know how terrible things are in our country right now.
why aren’t there more people outraged at what has happened to our country.
this election we, the american people should send a message loud and clear to both parties, and other group that would want to be the leaders of our country.
vote no on republicans this time around
to teach them a lesson, and next time,
dems and reps. will not try and pawn the likes of bush and cheney off on us again.
wake up people.
mccain has to pay for george bush and cheney’ messing up this country.
mccain will not win.

Posted by: what?! | November 3, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

MCCAIN HAS HAD ALMOST 30 YRS EXPERIENCE.
HE MAKES MORE MISTAKES NOW THAN WHEN HE STARTED HIS POLITICAL CAREER. OBAMA HARDLY MAKES ANY MISTAKES. THE GUY SPEAKING HERE, WHOEVER HE IS, IS MAKING A BIG MISTAKE !!!

Posted by: Levi | November 3, 2008, 1:47 am 1:47 am

McCain and Palin need an attitude adjustment. McCain has such a big chip on his shoulder. I think it is terrible how he handled his campaign. Obama is stern, but, yet gentle, do not underestimate Obama he is no pushover, should he get knocked down he will get up, and dust himself off. Obama will use diplomacy first, before he would use muscle. I have already voted, my vote was for Obama and Biden.

Posted by: mary | November 3, 2008, 1:54 am 1:54 am

McCain was ahead by double digits until the financial crisis….but I have yet to meet one person yet who has given up their cell phone or had to sell their lap top and everyone is still drinking their Starbucks or designer bottled water…..and sorry folks, we are better off that we were eight years ago. Most folks I know have more that they did years ago, but I’m 50, so have a better perspective. Screw the financial crisis….voters choose their candidate 50% of the time with emotions and I “feel” Obama is the wrong black man for President. I’m ready for one, but not one with this kind of history!
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN!

Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | November 3, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am

“I made some terrible mistakes in office, when I was district leader, no one remembers what they are.”
I don’t understand why some people insist on judging others based on the low standards they set for themselves. I have known Obama for some time now, have read his policy papers, his op-eds (very telling) and his books. I have watched his campaign closely. I have watched how he interacts with others and gets his message across. I have seen how he tries his best not to make big mistakes. You, Congressman Nadler, are no Obama.

Posted by: Question | November 3, 2008, 1:57 am 1:57 am

This is the very crux of the problem for Obama…
Either he agrees with the sermons of Rev. Wright…
Or he was just using those people to further his political career by pretending to go along with them.
Problem with that is, if he can fool them for 20 years, he could fool the rest of us for the few years he needed to realize the greatest political ambition of all.
Obama can’t be trusted.

Posted by: marylou | November 3, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am

This is good stuff. Real, visceral stuff, Jake. Thanks for having the courage to put this out there for all to see.

Posted by: jcarob | November 3, 2008, 2:11 am 2:11 am

WHAT:
You are wrong!
Many of us who are voting for McCain voted for Kerry in the last election and for Clinton before him.
Many of us are the left-overs of the Democratic party which saw the undeserved defeat of the best of all three candidates at the hands of a melifluous newbie with a lot of spending money and not much else.
We watched as Pelosi and Reed kept the press depressed in a hole that spouted news about only ONE candidate
We were disheartened by Obama’s dishonesty and the slimness of his resume and were done in by his sexist attitude towards Hillary. (Nut crackers
and ignoring her at that convocation in Washington.. to name just two instances)
We watched as Hillary won states…and this news was squished and the percentage of her “wins” were available only through the BBC!
We watched as he refused to have Florida and Michigan seated… until after his nomination was assured.
We watched as he spent millions to show the world the size of his ears… in the Democratic Convention.
We watched and listened as he and his disciples raised the race card against Bill Clinton…. and then raised it again and again…..
We watched as Bozo, almost choking in a parody of American flags on the podium during his “race” speeches dissed his grandmother as a typical white woman and claimed his allegiance to Jeremiah… about a month before he dissed HIM…..
We saw pictures of the “messiah” eerily crowned, and were disgusted by the revised presidential tableau…..
We watched… and we were not amused.
We turned our backs on both Obama, and on the Democratic party.
And now, our votes belong to McCain, and Palin!

Posted by: hmmmmm | November 3, 2008, 2:15 am 2:15 am

And then, the line that may haunt Nadler for four years or longer: “He didn’t have the political courage to make the statement of walking out.”
Finally, someone on the Democratic side admits, inadvertently but still true, “the emperor has no clothes”… Eh, erase that “‘the one’ has no clothes.”
______________
The Emperor realized that the people were right but could not admit to that. He though it better to continue the procession under the illusion that anyone who couldn’t see his clothes was either stupid or incompetent. And he stood stiffly on his carriage, while behind him a page held his imaginary mantle

Posted by: topo2005 | November 3, 2008, 2:18 am 2:18 am

Yawn

Posted by: doug | November 3, 2008, 2:40 am 2:40 am

MCCAIN IS A DEAD MAN WALKING !!!
ZERO CHANCE OF WINNING THE WHITE HOUSE !!!
NOT NOW NOR EVER !!!!!!!!
PALIN ZERO CHANCE OF BEING VP OR POTUS !!!~!~
NOT NOW NOR EVER !!!!!!!!
GOT IT ????????
NOW……. YOU GOPs…… GOT TO YOUR UNDERGROUND HEADQUARTERS AND LICK YOUR BLOODY WOUNDS !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: skyglider2008 | November 3, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am

If McCain said he was for a socialist agenda, ie redistribution of wealth, nationalizing the major industries and giving up our soverignty; the media and democrats would be having a field day.
This is Obama’s plan, where is the OUTRAGE???????????????????
It’s alright, because I want to see the movie stars and professional atheletes give up some of their millions, especially to me.

Posted by: willhen50 | November 3, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am

Americans have voted in Isreal and McCain wins. No doubt….Obama’s aura of Anti Semitism is palpable. Be wary my Jewish friends.

Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | November 3, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am

Too bad a lot of Nadler’s premise is factually incorrect. The Trinity Church is actually only one of maybe 10-15 Mega-churches in Chicago. So, to ascribe political motive to his choice in churches is pretty despicable, in addition to being a lie.
And to join in on the ignorant demonization of a church is rather dangerous territory for someone like Nadler to do, given the history of demonization of religions and churches in the world.
I happen to be a member of a UCC Congregation (which IS primarily a white denomination), so I personally find the demonization of Trinity and the UCC absurd. Pastor’s are humans too and it is foolish to believe that everyone or anyone in a congregation will support or believe everything said in the pulpit.
But it is so funny that while launching this whole guilt by association attack, McCain/Palin are at the same time trying to distance themselves from Bush, Cheney, lobbyists for dictators, Alaska secessionists, and other assorted undesirables. These people are throwing rocks while living in MULTIPLE glass houses.
There are many people of questionable character associated with the McCain campaign and in the halls of Congress. We’ve seen Repubs. Randy Cunningham, Ted Stevens, Mark Foley, Larry Craig, et. al., so it is no surprise that there are a number of Dems, like Rep. Nadler of lower intelligence and judgment.

Posted by: Bud | November 3, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am

Marxist Media Theory Daniel Chandler Herbert Marcuse, in One-Dimensional Man (1972), presented the media very pessimistically as an irresistible force:
The means of… communication…, the irresistible output of the entertainment and information industry carry with them prescribed attitudes and habits, certain intellectual and emotional reactions which bind the consumers… to the producers and, through the latter to the whole [social system]. The products indoctrinate and manipulate; they promote a false consciousness which is immune against its falsehood… Thus emerges a pattern of one-dimensional thought and behaviour. (Marcuse, cited in Bennett 1982: 43).

Posted by: rnh | November 3, 2008, 4:22 am 4:22 am

First of all, do people actually get their polictical views from their preachers, priests or rabbis. I know I don’t go to church to hear what they think on any political matter and they have no business using the pulpit to spread their views. When they do, I think the church should lose their tax exempt status. The clergys only job in church to perform the ceremony of the chuch, that’s all. I sat in church when my preist tried would go on about some political issue and I tuned him out and read the church bulletin. He is only their form my spiritual guidance not my political guidance.
As for the Jewish people… wake up. The only time the Republicans care about you is when they need your vote. Afterall, wasn’t John McCain part of an organization that gave over $400,000.00 to Rashid Khalidi? By Republican standards (guilt by association) this action would make John McCain anit-Semite.

Posted by: I've had it | November 3, 2008, 4:32 am 4:32 am

Kathy, people show up at obama’s rallys to support him because they fall for his lies. They know he sat in the hateful church but believe his lie that he never heard Wright say anything against America. Obama surrounds himself with terrorist and marxist firendss, yet they refuse to see that his friends want to destroy America and everything it stands for. Any freedom loving American should walk away from Obama.He is a major liar, deceiver and manipulator.

Posted by: Sandy | November 3, 2008, 5:03 am 5:03 am

Says Nadler: “I have no personal knowledge of what I’m about to say. What I’m about to say is my guess…”
***************************************
That about caps the story now doesn’t it? This guy just made national news by surmising some B.S. story…
Thanks, but haven’t we had enough made up, bogus, opinionated crap in these campaigns already?

Posted by: Julie | November 3, 2008, 5:23 am 5:23 am

“He starts off my saying he has no idea of what he’s talking about. And then he proceeds to open mouth, insert foot.”
When one is too eager to share something negative about Obama, it shows in the mistakes — in your case the typos, Jake.
Have a nice day.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | November 3, 2008, 5:30 am 5:30 am

McCain never denounced the Hagee’s statment that the Catholic religion was a “religion of whores”. So that must mean McCain agrees. Any Catholic who votes for McCain after his endorsing that statement is insane.
The Republicans are always trying to insinuate that Obama is un-American. Well, how about Sarah and Todd Palin and their membership the ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY. This is an organizattion that wants to separate from the United States and whose leader, Joe Vogler was killed in a deal gone bad while trying to buy plastic explosives. Wonder what he was going to use the explosives for?Hmmm ..domestic terrorism? Talk about Anti-American? So where are the news stories on Ms. Palin and her connection to this organization. As governor she spoke at their convention this year and told them that she “shared their vision” and to “keep up the good work”. I think that would make for a very good headline. I my opinion this is not only un-American it’s Anti American and now you want the American people to vote her in as Vice President and have our tax dollars pay for her and her family to live in the Vice-President’s residence.

Posted by: I've had it | November 3, 2008, 5:41 am 5:41 am

Funny how when the lying Democrats are not in front of a teleprompter they also say the truth about Obama just like BIDEN did a few days ago did.
Obama is just like a product you buy off an INFOMERCIAL. You suckers are going hook, line and sinker over this lying phony. Obama and his terrorist friends are laughing at all the fools who voted for him

Posted by: pook | November 3, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am

This guy is anti Christian. Time to flush Nader down the toilet.

Posted by: JoeForSure | November 3, 2008, 5:57 am 5:57 am

I suggest you Obama haters take a little time to convene and start your “Impeach him now!!” rhetoric on the 5th (because we know you don’t have enough sense to actually wait until he’s in office) – go ahead….no one cares. We’re all just laughing at you now as you completely implode. I hope it hurts, just knowing that no amount of smearing and lying has worked! LOL
OBAMA-BIDEN BABY!!!

Posted by: Lynne | November 3, 2008, 6:19 am 6:19 am

Political courage to walk out of a church? Does Nadler suggest that he goes to church to up his political courage?
One more day Jake and this absurd campaign of McCain will be over, gone, a dead horse. Bush, Cheney, McCain, Palin, and many Repuiblicans political carreers finnished.
Great day for America!

Posted by: Thinking | November 3, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am

Obama has not had any courage to do anything other than play the blame game sprinkled every once in a while with the RACE CARD.

Posted by: Thinking | November 3, 2008, 6:31 am 6:31 am

I was just thinking.
Obama needs to be about 15 to 20 percent ahead in the polls to win this thing.
We never had a black man in the POLLS and they are going to be way off. Not only because of the RACIST Americans but because the people who support our savior Obama are slanting the POLLS.

Posted by: Thinking | November 3, 2008, 6:36 am 6:36 am

I agree Nadler put his foot in his mouth, he was simply making assumptions on Baraks decisions, and we can’t go into another mans head and know why he does what he does. None of us are mind readers. I think the man is honorable, and truthful, I will trust what he tells me his thoughts were. And hey, we’ve all made big mistakes in life, it looks to me like Senator Obama has made allot less than most of us.

Posted by: Shirley, Frekhaug, Norway | November 3, 2008, 6:41 am 6:41 am

I donated to Obama becuase Obama made closed secret deals to give us PAY TO PLAY CONTRACTS in foreign country’s.
Another Obama friend thrown under the OBAMA BUS. At least he is not alone now. Obama had to get a longer bus. I think Obama will throw America under the BUS

Posted by: Shirley, Frekhaug, Norway | November 3, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am

Delaware has Biden. The Upper West Side of Manhattan has Nadler. Congressman…if you “have no personal knowledge” of what you’re about to say, it’s probably better if you don’t say it.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 3, 2008, 6:49 am 6:49 am

I hate to play in the mud, but it’s fun
sometimes, and this race has brought out the worse in allot of us. But here goes, I said it yesterday and I’ll say it again
today.
Comedians John McCain and Sarah
Palin need to be chained like mad men
to a padded wall.

Posted by: Shirley, Frekhaug, Norway | November 3, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

*yawn*
One time, I heard that my neighbor’s cousin’s daughter’s boyfriend said that he thought Obama wanted to buy a pair of tennis shoes to play basketball. Can you believe it?!
(Jake, is this investigative journalism?)
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | November 3, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

Nadler got cornered in a forum where he had to give people straight answers and tried to defend Obama’s foreign policy.
That’s rare. But look what happens.

Posted by: Doodad Pro | November 3, 2008, 6:50 am 6:50 am

Off subject, but has anyone had the same
thought as me? That John McCain is in
the prime of his senility?

Posted by: Shirley, Frekhaug, Norway | November 3, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

Shirley, Frekhaug, Norway -
“Off subject, but has anyone had the same thought as me? That John McCain is in the prime of his senility?”
I can’t tell if its senility. He appears to be just plain shocked by what the teleprompters have him saying. I think he just doesn’t read/vet what they have him saying, who he appears on stage with, and who he picks for VP.
Obama/Biden 08!

Posted by: Common Sense | November 3, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am

The little name stealers are just desperate Republicans trying to hang onto a sinking boat. Oh Wednesday will be sweet revenge.

Posted by: Republicans, for Obama | November 3, 2008, 7:04 am 7:04 am

Obama: I’ll make energy prices “skyrocket”
In another clip from the same January 2008 interview with the San Francisco Chronicle in which Barack Obama promised to bankrupt anyone foolish enough to
build coal-burning power plants, he also made an interesting admission about his entire energy plan. Obama told the editors that his policies would make
energy prices “skyrocket” as the energy industry passed along the exorbitant costs of his cap-and-trade policy:
In Obama’s own words transcribed video
The problem is not technical, uh, and the problem is not mastery of the legislative intricacies of Washington. The problem is, uh, can you get the American
people to say, “This is really important,” and force their representatives to do the right thing? That requires mobilizing a citizenry. That requires them
understanding what is at stake. Uh, and climate change is a great example.
You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily
skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas,
you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass
that money on to consumers.
They — you — you can already see what the arguments will be during the general election. People will say, “Ah, Obama and Al Gore, these folks, they’re going
to destroy the economy, this is going to cost us eight trillion dollars,” or whatever their number is. Um, if you can’t persuade the American people that
yes, there is going to be some increase in electricity rates on the front end, but that over the long term, because of combinations of more efficient energy
usage, changing lightbulbs and more efficient appliance, but also technology improving how we can produce clean energy, the economy would benefit.
If we can’t make that argument persuasively enough, you — you, uh, can be Lyndon Johnson, you can be the master of Washington. You’re not going to get that done.

Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | November 3, 2008, 7:15 am 7:15 am

What this shows it is very difficult to explain Obama’s behavior and maintain that Obama has all positive qualities. Nadler is trying to explain that Obama is not an extremist.
Unfortunately one has to say Obama is an extremist and hangs around with extremists or that Obama is a Machiavellian hypocrite – those are the options.

Posted by: today | November 3, 2008, 7:17 am 7:17 am

You ask 625 to around 1000 likely voters in a state whom they will vote for and than you project the winner by the winner of that poll and say that 52% of the voters picked Obama and we project that from this poll American voters will pick Obama. Impossible, they seem to believe that they know how every voter will vote. Rather slanted isn”t it? Obama will win, which scares the **** out of me, but, at least when he and the rest of the Democrats ruin this country with their own agenda at least I didn’t pick him, didn’t vote for McCain either, so I made a wise choice. BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!!!! I have never seen a slicker politician than Obama, everytime he opens his mouth, out comes lies and omissions! God help us all!!!! By the way, no experience needed to be President, you just need to be alive..!!! That rather supersedes all the experience (not) that OB has!!!!!

Posted by: Cathy | November 3, 2008, 7:18 am 7:18 am

An “honorable” man doesn’t sit in a church with a hate spewing pastor for 20 years. Nor does an honorable man take his children there.

Posted by: Martine | November 3, 2008, 7:19 am 7:19 am

Instead we should be watching Sarah Palin being protected from witchcraft by her minister

Posted by: Republicans, for Obama | November 3, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

Cathy: “at least when he and the rest of the Democrats ruin this country with their own agenda at least I didn’t pick him,”
A lot of people thought that when the Republicans took over both the White House and the Congress. After Katrina, Iraq, the economy, a doubling of the national debt, etc – the amount of damage their incompetence has done won’t be fully paid off until our grandchildren.

Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

jhw — how much hate counts, jhw? five min of rev wright is plenty.
twenty years is unbelievable.

Posted by: martine | November 3, 2008, 7:24 am 7:24 am

What this election has taught the young people. Money can buy you anything.

Posted by: glennmcgahee | November 3, 2008, 7:26 am 7:26 am

I can’t wait until you are all around McCain’s age and they start throwing you under the bus because you are no longer a viable human being because you are old! Wow!! How do you treat your parents, grandparents or any other over 50 person? Most of them are sharp as a tack!!! Respect is earned and so far none of you have any!!!! Yeah, I want to be just like you!!!!!!!! With the seniors you would not be here and apparently you didn’t pay attention when they were teaching you the better things in life!!!! You are young and think that you have all of the answers, but, you haven’t even started learning them yet!!!!

Posted by: Cathy | November 3, 2008, 7:30 am 7:30 am

Oh Lordy! Is there no end to this crap? They just keep coming up with this bogus crap, they want to use the internet now to further their objective, let’s watch for this so called ‘breaking news’ bet we don’t see it. Their just fishing for the gullible, hoping to swing a few votes, pathetic.

Posted by: Republicans, for Obama | November 3, 2008, 7:44 am 7:44 am

Its hard to find a more revered and loved American than Andy Griffith. When I think of a true American I think of him. Andy Griffith stands for truth and wisdom, and has been considered a faithful veteran, and someone who would never support communism. Andy grew up when the world was under attack by nationalism, and then he was a part of our national fight against communism. Often during his show, The Andy Griffith Show he would teach us lessons on right and wrong, and what the true American way is. His son in the show, famed director Ron Howard is also considered an American icon, and someone you can trust to do the right thing for America. Ron and Andy have put their support behind Barack Obama for President, because they believe he represents the BEST for America. They would NEVER support someone who didnt love this country as much as they do, nor would they support someone who was a threat to us all. Lets all be like Andy Griffith and vote for Barack Obama! Lets make America the America that Andy Griffith believes in! Obama/Biden, as American as apple pie!

Posted by: Fairfax | November 3, 2008, 7:48 am 7:48 am

We have an economic crisis which can be traced to social engineering taking precedence over sound economics, led by the liberals and first started under Jimmy Carter (CRA – 1977). Thanks Jimmuh.
We have the huge hurdle of dealing with the Middle East which has always been a sore spot in world affairs. We used to have them at least in some control until the CIA was pulled out of Iran and left the U.S. with huge holes in intelligence. At the same time we withdrew our support of the Shah and that was when radical Islam took hold with the Ayotollah Khomeini (sp?). Who to thank? Jimmuh Carter.
The punch line? I voted for that clown when I was 19 years old and thought I was doing to right thing. I was completely clueless. I had youth as an excuse and within four years I had it figured out and helped to get rid of him.
Be prepared, all of you in your teens who are voting for the first time. This is different than voting for your high school class president. This has consequences that may follow you for the rest of your entire life and many of them may not be pretty at all.
In fact, I would be willing to bet that 20% of you first time voters will be voting against Obama in four years.
Hey, save yourself the expensive lesson. Just use your brain TODAY and think about the heritage of individual liberties that have been the backbone of our society. Think about the system of government that has, at least until now, rewarded hard work and ingenuity. Think about the fact that the U.S. won the cold war with a socialist behemoth, NOT, as Barack stated, because the world stood united, but rather because the UNITED STATED stood ALONE in freedom-loving defiance of a nation hell-bent on destroying us and everything we stood for at the time.
Of course, the seeds of soclialism still remained in our soil. Alinksy, Ayers from the more academic side and Wright from the rear flank of religion.
Without the seeds of socialistic change having been planted in this country over the last five decades, Obama would have no chance of serious consideration.
Vote for him tomorrow and you are asking for the U.S. to become beholded to the U.N., and the last of the world’s superpowers to give up that status in order to appease the rest of the jealous world.
Don’t do what I did when I was 19. Don’t vote for change out of mindless reflex.

Posted by: Jim Roof | November 3, 2008, 7:58 am 7:58 am

The little coal industry bankrupting story will cost O plently of votes. If there is one thing coal miners won’t stand for is threatening their jobs. Word may not travel on the MSM but it’s out there on cell phones and emails. Sent a few off myself this morning. It will cost him the election.

Posted by: samhiguchi | November 3, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am

Poster equates Andy Griffith, Obama as American as apple pie. Gag me again? Obama is an arugula man and Griffith is on memory pills and depends. Both Obama and Griffith have no connection to main stream America anymore, if Obama ever did in the first place.

Posted by: TN Al | November 3, 2008, 8:03 am 8:03 am

REV. HAGEE. Remember him? Loved McCain, and it was mutual till McCain decided it might not be so good to admit to politically. (McC didn’t realize the ‘liberal’ media would never have the guts to keep bringing HAGEE up–only the guts to harrass the black candidate.) Yep Hagee loved McCain. Loved Jews? Not so much. Look it up. Then there’s the ‘third wave’ apostolics group Palin’s church belongs to. Again, no interest by netwok news in looking into it…But others have, and guess what? According to them, Jews, Catholics and even members of other ‘Protestant’ denominations are all goin’ to hell. Hate much?

Posted by: Charlotte | November 3, 2008, 8:06 am 8:06 am

martine: ”
jhw — how much hate counts, jhw? five min of rev wright is plenty.
twenty years is unbelievable.”
Why are you ignoring my point? Out of almost a decade of video taped sermons available, why is it Republicans can only find 5 minutes of comments offensive out of tens of thousands of minutes of material?
Also, have you listened to the sermons to hear the quotes IN CONTEXT? I have, and I do not find them hateful towards America. Certainly last-generation railing about racial prejudice, but the man is a Marine and a black man whose parents experienced institutionalized racism – he has earned the right to criticize America and he has reason to be bitter.
I worship god, not America, so I may be able to have a bit more of a rational view of the subject. I also believe America is plenty strong enough to take criticism as long as it is not violent (like notorious conservative Timothy McVeigh).

Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 8:09 am 8:09 am

In the spirit of unity I’m inviting all the bitter, nasty, most vociferously anti-Obama commenters to my place for Election Day dinner.
We’ll start with Sour Grapes salad, followed by a main course of Crow, and finish with a nice slab of Humble Pie before retiring to the parlor to watch the results in Hi-Def on my 70-inch plasma.
RSVP

Posted by: Voice of Reason | November 3, 2008, 8:10 am 8:10 am

My 13 year old son said it best:
“On Wednesday, how can the new president start to govern the country? Half of the country will be mad at the other half. How can Senator McCain win if he tells so many lies about people? And if he does win, maybe kids will think that if you lie, it’s no big deal. He lied and he’s the President. It just doesn’t seem right.”

Posted by: scooterfoot | November 3, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am

Obama and Pelosi/Reid/Biden/Dean are a train wreck. Where’s that “Don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for them” bumper sticker? I should have put it on for the last 8 years, but now I’m going to make sure I affix it to my car if this bunch of goofballs gets in.

Posted by: Kitty | November 3, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

McCain was ‘Very Honored’ to be endorsed by a Pastor who called the Catholic Church the “great hoar”???
Hmmm. My Catholic relatives might be interested to know that.

Posted by: Bud | November 3, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am

Jake: Interesting to focus on Sadler’s “mistake” — but entirely secondary. Is he correct about Obama’s membership in Wright’s church?

Posted by: Judasmac | November 3, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am

“Oh Lordy! Is there no end to this crap?”
You mean, is there no end to quoting Obama’s own words?
What a terrible thing to do.
You know what’s really crap? Liberals who claim to be Obama supporters

Posted by: drjohn | November 3, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

I can’t wait until you are all around McCain’s age and they start throwing you under the bus because you are no longer a viable human being because you are old! Wow!! How do you treat your parents, grandparents or any other over 50 person?
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I would like to see Obama when he reaches 72. If he will be as strong as McCain! Also if he knows his aunt is living in the slump in Boston and doesn’t do anything about it, you think he will take care of you whom is not related to him at all? Think deep about it before you vote.

Posted by: jackie | November 3, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am

drjohn: “Give me a break.”
From Rev. Wright’s notorious sermon:
“God Damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is Supreme. ”
For that you would condemn a Marine? And where is his “racist hate speech,” given in front of many white members of his church? Do you understant what racism is? Have you EVER seen a KKK rally with even a single black man or woman in attendance?
You are choosing to be ignorant and led by the Republicans. Try looking at reality and thinking for yourself a bit.

Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Sarah Palin is racist against witches, doesn’t want them no where around her, had to have a preacher pray over her to summon God to protect her from those scary witches

Posted by: Republicans, for Obama | November 3, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am

Voiceofreason: So you believe that your pick BO is correct but those that don’t support him are losers? Amazing!! We don’t follow the crows, we don’t jump on someones band wagon, we still believe in free speech, etc.and we have a right to to say what we feel. You seem to want that right but you don’t want to extend it to someone who doesn’t do what you say! Typical Barack Obama supporter, all of you who feel that way. You speak your closed little mind but disagree with people who made their choice from doing their homework and getting to the facts. Not SLICK words or SLICK speeches or a very slanted media that figures it is best to beat up on women than to ask tough questions and come across as, possibly, being a racist if they expect that BO be held to the same tough standard as the females and the old white man!!! They know it is true, they have constantly waited on that man hand and foot and kissed his **** for two years. They don’t even have the class to do the right thing, their phoney baloney job would be at risk!!! This is still America and we still have rights and you don’t want to be shut up but you want to shut us up…welcome to the new America. How do you bring the country togehter when he is the one who has divided it?
Scooterfoot: Sounds like your son has had some help from his mama and the yellow journalists!!!!

Posted by: Cathy | November 3, 2008, 8:52 am 8:52 am

Who were the ‘we must have it our way’ supporters at rallies for John McCain? Our rallies were positive, uplifting, not the hate spewing, whack fest you saw at John McCain rallies.

Posted by: Republicans, for Obama | November 3, 2008, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Cathy: ” You speak your closed little mind but disagree with people who made their choice from doing their homework and getting to the facts. ”
Facts? What facts has the McCain campaign put forth? Can you give me a couple examples of good legislation John McCain has produced in his quarter century in the Senate? For Obama, look up information on the law requiring police to videotape confessions and interogations in serious crimes – an awful good law Obama wrote and, over initial Senate resistance and the governor promising a veto, ultimately passed with a bipartisan majority and was signed into law.
GIVE ME SOME FACTS – WHAT HAS JOHN MCCAIN *ACHIEVED* OTHER THAN SLANDER OBAMA?

Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

Cathy… So what time should I expect you?
:-)

Posted by: Voice of Reason | November 3, 2008, 9:05 am 9:05 am

And for another thing, when’s John McCain going to admit he picked the worse possible running mate? He keeps lying thru his teeth, when he says he picked the best.

Posted by: Republicans, for Obama | November 3, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

Taking alittle break, got to get some food, have been on this computer almost
24 / 7

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Voiceofreason: You just simply do not get it and you want the non Obama followers to be clueless. Wow, we must really scare you! The first of the year my husband and I pay off a loan and in the process we will be putting 350.00 more a MONTH in our pockets. That by the way is much more than the measley 1000 dollar yearly tax break that BO is going to give the middle class…who doesn”t get it? 350.00 more every month trumps BO’s 83.33 monthly tax break. Where is the redistribution of wealth. Looks like, as usual, you want more money you make it yourself!!!!

Posted by: Cathy | November 3, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am

All I know is that pretty much everything McBush says is either made up as he goes aliong, or is just an outright LIE. A man is only as good as his word and McBushes means NOTHING therefore making Obama the lesser of the two evils in my eyes.
Jiff

Posted by: Josh Minor | November 3, 2008, 9:29 am 9:29 am

Jake, since when is it a mistake to tell the truth about Obama?

Posted by: Will Stanton | November 3, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Notice how if you use Obama’s words against him your comment disappears?

Posted by: Retired old guy | November 3, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Retired old guy: ”
Notice how if you use Obama’s words against him your comment disappears?”
There is a little issue of copyright when you cut and paste half of FoxNews directly into “your” comment…

Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

How many of you Obamatons are actually paid employees of The One? I’ve read a lot about you!
Adler was telling the truth about Himself – I just hope that enough people realize it or care about it to vote for McCain/Palin.
What’s that about BO’s domestic security force? Are those the brown shirts in charge of keeping us that don’t conform in line?

Posted by: SweetAlmondVerbena | November 3, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am

I have news for you they didn”t come from Fox news they came from Obama speaches and the comments are mine.

Posted by: Retired old guy | November 3, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Wow, first time Nadler’s been right about anything in his entire political career! And the way the mainstream media bought Obama’s ridiculous explanation for Wright, that he didn’t know what he really stood for, hook, line, and sinker is one of the largest travesties perpetrated upon the American people during this entire election. Either Barack Obama is a complete idiot, to have stayed in a church for 20 years and not to have known the pastor was a vicious racist, or he’s lying through his teeth. One of the two. One of the two.

Posted by: Thank God for Karma | November 3, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am

jhw53Obama, Here lets try this one from his book.
Obama, “I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views. (The Audacity of Hope.”) And this is exactly what you Obama cultists do.

Posted by: Retired old guy | November 3, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

McCain looks very sickly. IF he wins, how do we know know he will make it to inauguration?

Posted by: Sandra | November 3, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

jhw539 writes:
“GIVE ME SOME FACTS – WHAT HAS JOHN MCCAIN *ACHIEVED* OTHER THAN SLANDER OBAMA?”
Love the all-caps J…really puts over the argument for me.
All kidding aside though, are you really serious? McCain has a huge record, some of which the GOP like, some not so much. Obama’s not been able to get a thing done in the US Senate, with the exception of some resolutions, and along with pathological tardiness for his committee meetings, hasn’t even held a meeting of the subcommittee he’s chair of.
I realize people are upset about the economy, their difficult lives, etc. but some basic factual information needs to be kept in play, lest Obamaites like Sallie and “Republicans for Obama” (Is that you Chris Buckley?) kept dishing out the incredibly inaccurate (and often dishonest) talking points:
The War – Bush and company certainly made some mistakes with the prosecution of the Iraq war, mistakes which McCain helped get turned around (an issue where he strongly disagreed with Bush on strategy and tactics). The notion that Bush and McCain were in agreement ends pretty much at the decision to take out Saddam Hussein, for which the majority of Iraqis remain immensely grateful. What the anti-Bush left won’t admit is that they worked day and night to tie Bush’s hands on what kinds of strategy to use, minimizing the military footprint, scaling back troops and presence – and then hammered Bush when the casualties mounted. Hypocritical? Cynical? You betcha.
The economy – Was not bad until, oh, about 2 years ago when the Democrats took office. Actually, conservatives and those of us who lean in that direction know it’s much more complex than that, but the biggest economic problems have been housing, which the Democrats bear a large portion of the blame for enabling the growth of the bad credit market via Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac (not to mention their campaign finance payback in contributions from the FM types), and oil prices, which were in part inflated by instability in the Middle-East, instability that Obama’s stated plans have not helped. Thankfully, the one bright side of the economic crisis is that it has driven fuel prices down. Of course, if Obama raises taxes, job creation will be stifled and the recession will be prolonged.
Foreign policy – Contrary to popular belief the Bush foreign policy has been fairly effective as far as Western Europe and China go, despite some of the hypocrisy of leftist state leaders in France and Germany (who are now gone, replaced by pro-American leaders). It’s lacking on Iran and Russia, but Obama’s plans sound pretty much like the card player who can’t muster a poker face. Even Biden realizes Obama will be challenged precisely because he’s inexperienced, but what Biden doesn’t say is that Obama will be challenged because most observers believe his primary foreign policy phiolosophy will be to make the US the affable, doughy enabler of the world’s autocracies, by spending a great deal of time on useless dialogue and far too little on real diplomacy, which involves having some teeth, economically and otherwise.

Posted by: ME | November 3, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Retired Old Guy: “Obama, “I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views. (The Audacity of Hope.”)
And this is exactly what you Obama cultists do.”
I base my support of Obama on his record and posted policy positions (several hundred pages of white papers on his website – I looked all over John McCain’s and could find no equivalent details).
I have already cited one law that impressed me: Look up information on the law requiring police to videotape confessions and interrogations in serious crimes – an awful good law Obama wrote and, over initial Senate resistance and the governor promising a veto, ultimately passed with a bipartisan majority and was signed into law.
GIVE ME SOME FACTS – WHAT HAS JOHN MCCAIN *ACHIEVED* OTHER THAN SLANDER OBAMA?
McCain seems to have much more the cult following – Palin even more so. Obama was really attacked by many of his supporters for voting for FISA and the renewal of the Patriot act; it is quite obvious that his base simply does not meet the definition of a cult of personality (unless your using some unknown Republican definition for the term).

Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

jhw539 I don’t support either of these two clowns. I base my opposition to Obama on his words and associations.
“To avoid being mistaken for a sell out, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students, The foreign students, The Chicanos, The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.” Barak Obama from “Dreams of My Father.
I have read both of Obama’s books and have been looking into his background for many months; long before he became so controversial after the Wright revelations. What I discovered is:
His father, the focus of his book, was a card carrying member of the Communist Party in Kenya. His mother attended a Marxist high school. His mentor growing up was Frank Marshall Davis, the poet he mentions above, a Communist Party member. His mentor in collage, Saul Alinski, his pastor the reverend Wright, his friends Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn Ayers, all Marxists. Early “Official Bloggers” on his own web site, Sam Graham Felsen and Mike Kolnsky are Marxists. He has been endorsed by Carl Davison a Marxist who serves as a national steering committee member of United for Peace and Justice a Marxist organization. The Communist Party USA endorses Obama and says that after all these years “its time has come”? He supports, and has campaigned for Kenya’s Raila Odinga, his cousin, a Marxist terrorist. He trained organizers for and served as a lawyer for, ACORN, a Marxist organization. He advocates the redistribution of wealth an idea right out of Karl Marx’s writings. In order for a government to redistribute wealth they must first confiscate it from those who have produced it as government only consumes wealth they do not produce it. Guilt by association; or birds of a feather perhaps?

Posted by: Retired old guy | November 3, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

On Nov 2,2008, just yesterday, Obama introduced Rev Otis Moss, to a cheering crowd in Ohio. Otis Moss is the racist “nut” that is seen over and over cheering and egging Rev Wright and Father Phleger on and on about Chickens coming home to roost, US of KKK A and Hillary Clinton’s white priveleged expectations.
So hey Jerry….Obama is still in the Church of Hate. He just can’t change is Red Racist Stripes. You wanted Obama, now you got him. The One will be toxic poison to the Democratic Party, worse than the Dixiecrats were to the Republican Party.
….Obama is the NUT

Posted by: Hihoze | November 3, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

Obama has a history of not showing courage.
He voted present 130 times in the Senate because he wouldn’t take a stand.
He makes one statement in rural PA then behind their backs in front of his elite friends he says something else.
He didn’t have the guts to walk out of a church with a hateful pastor–not until it started to hurt his campaign.
America doesn’t need a wimpy president.

Posted by: sam | November 3, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Jake you forgot to mention that Nadler also told the crowd to let Russia invade Georgia.

Posted by: samhiguchi | November 3, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

all you republicans are gonna look and sound very foolish after Obama wins the election tomm.
But since foolish is your natural state, I guess it won’t really look all that different….

Posted by: dewde | November 3, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am

A Commander-in Chief that is not politically courageous.
Our enemies can’t wait.
Obama is the gift they have been waiting for.

Posted by: bailey | November 3, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am

Retired old guy: So it’s his associations – not his actual proven record of achievements, leadership and lawmaking- that you are judging him on.
Luckily, the majority of modern America does not hold McCarthyism as their favored decision making approach.

Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

sam: “He voted present 130 times in the Senate because he wouldn’t take a stand.”
That was 130 times out of over 3,500 votes in the Illinois Senate. And on some of those bills voting present was taking a stand against a liberal favorite that he had technical constitutional qualms about.
Compare that to John McCain’s record, where he courageously skips the votes entirely.

Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Pamela Geller, the lady behind this video, is proudly known among her fans as another Ann Coulter. Geller got her illustrious start in extremist blogging through live blogging in a bikini in ’06. If you take a look at Atlas Shrugged, it already has McCain and Pailin inaugurated as king and queen of the planet. Just a bit of extremist trivia for anyone interested in the sources used. Nadler’s comments really rocked the far right wing blogs all over the place. I wonder what principled sources are next.

Posted by: kat Adkins | November 3, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Half of us don’t like Obama, half of us do!!! What difference does it make tomorrow. We have a right to not like anyone, if we so choose. However, because of the hate spewed towards the non Obama believers we will not change our minds. You can boast all you want, you can pray for the salvation of the people and its country and you can insult us all you want. This country will not come together and you can do nothing about that. Just enjoy your choice now and if it makes you feel bigger and better of yourself to insult others than you just go right ahead, but, sometime in the next 4 years, if you are a person who makes up their own minds and are truthful, you will see that the second coming of Christ will show his true colors!!!!

Posted by: Cathy | November 3, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Retired Old Guy -
And here I thought that McCarthyism had been discredited completely. Keep those embers alive…let the witch hunts begin anew!

Posted by: Broojklyn Democrat | November 3, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am

“Gets involved with community organizing — why? Because that’s how your form a base. OK. Joins the largest church in the neighborhood. About 8,000 members. … Why did he join the church? … Because that’s how you get to know people.”
A big city politicians like Nadler knows the game so don’t discount his words so quickly. Quite simply, Obama is a calculating Chicago politician who did a risk-benefit analysis in figuring out whether to be a community activist or dog-catcher, and did the same in determining what church to attend.
***
And then, the line that may haunt Nadler for four years or longer: “He didn’t have the political courage to make the statement of walking out.
Politicians like Nadler know how to sniff out those in their profession who have a backbone and those who do not. Now the question we need to ask ourselves is do we want a politician without one to be our chief executive?

Posted by: topo2005 | November 3, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

It is interesting that the liberals always resort to namecalling, as extremists, idiots, and racist, anyone who won’t vote for obama because they see right through him as a lying fraud and charlatan.
But in all the hype the liberals have been blinded to the fact that obama is a clinical narcissist at heart. It is not about being your brother’s keeper or spreading the wealth (for the good of the people!???) or “audacity of hope” or his church or grandmother or pastor or Auntie Zeituni. It is ALL about HIM, the One, the Messiah, and all the rest are Greek columns to his aggrandizement.
In truth the media have done the cruelest disservice to obama by shielding and protecting him.
What ever happens after the fourth obama will come out of it either a sullied senator or an illegitimate President; the media having robbed him of his legitimacy.

Posted by: maryam | November 3, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

“It is interesting that the liberals always resort to namecalling, as extremists, idiots, and racist, anyone who won’t vote for obama because they see right through him as a lying fraud and charlatan.”
I gotta admit that sentence brought a smile to my face – you were playing it straight right to the punchline at the end.

Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Cathy: “However, because of the hate spewed towards the non Obama believers we will not change our minds.”
It’s not hate, it is frustration that McCain supporters have refused to provide any reason TO vote for McCain, only attacks on Obama. Can you cite few actual, real-world, achievements of Senator McCain from his quarter century in the Senate? I have done so for Senator Obama, but after asking dozens of times MCCAIN SUPPORTERS REFUSE TO CITE CONCRETE ACHIEVEMENTS OF JOHN MCCAIN.
How can we compare the two candidates when one – John McCain – has a record only of being an entirely ineffectual talker/maverick?

Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

My 93 year old grandmother sums it up best say that her and all her freinds can;t understand how a 72 year old man, especially one cippled as a POW can consider taking on the presidency. He should be retired. I praise him for his service to our country, but are we best served by McCain, and worse with Palin as a back-up?
The difference is the orgainization and structure of the 2 campaigns alone should be an indication of how well each candidate can lead.
The only reason Obama hasn’t put this one away, is because he is young, he has a strange name, he’s black and most folks honestly, are afraid of change.

Posted by: Mike | November 3, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Jerry Nadler is a buffoon. I don’t say that because of these cluelessly critical comments about Obama. Obama certainly has his faults. But for those of us from NYC who are exposed to Nadler’s idiocy on a regular basis, this is just another incident in a long line of incidents that Nadler’s been pulling for years. It’s like every other comment out of his mouth is based on some fantasy created in his mind. We have these kinds of guys in both parties, the guys who are really too inept or too impolitic to be in elected office, but to our continuing amazement they get elected. They should really be riding on a special short bus and put somewhere they don’t harm themselves or others.
This is just to give some context to people who aren’t really aware of Nadler’s history. Coming out of another more credible politician’s mouth, I would consider the truth of it. But from Nadler, you can pretty much dismiss it out of hand. I’m serious. He’s that moronic.

Posted by: Pupster | November 3, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

jhw539 says “How can we compare the two candidates when one – John McCain – has a record only of being an entirely ineffectual talker/maverick?”
McCain pushed through with Ted Kennedy campaign finance reform legislation – which irritated republicans. He also worked with Kennedy on the “no child left behind” legislation – which was first applauded and then criticized by the teachers union. McCain also put through with Kennedy the amnesty for illegal immigrants legislation which was disliked by 70% of America and soundly defeated. You cannot claim that John McCain has not been putting through legislation.
Now of the claim that the left has been over the top in terms of criticism and has driven a permanent wedge among the American people. SNL ran a skit claiming that Palins dauthers pregnancy was due to incest. No one on the left denounced them. Jay Z called Palin a bitch. No one of the left denounced him. We are setting ourselves up to be run by a very extremist element of the democratic party. Obama has clearly won this thing. The worry is that more journalists will be kicked off the plane.

Posted by: today | November 3, 2008, 11:27 am 11:27 am

It’s known as projection.

Posted by: cjaneway | November 3, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

The maverick calls himself the maverick because he voted against Bush a few times.
He claims to have voted with him 90% of the time, go figure.

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am

Nadler’s my congressman and just lost my vote.

Posted by: Howard, NYC | November 3, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Jake, this post explains why Mark Halperin said over the weekend that YOU, a political reporter, were one of the most important people (not campaigning) in this election. For the next 24 hours, that is.
Hmm. Awfully coincidental that he knew you’d have tape of some dim-wit from FL.

Posted by: Nicole | November 3, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Don’t badmouth Obama, says the tone of this article. What gaffe are you referring to…calling Obama out for having a loon as a spiritual mentor? He did not have the courage to walk out…he turned a blind eye…it’s obvious to anyone who has reviewed Wright’s philosophy…
Wright himself called Obama out for “doing what politicians do,” remember…
So, only in the mind of the true Obama believer would Nadler be “haunted” by such an assessment of Obama’s political path…
Do not criticize Obama, you will be “haunted” by it. Great.

Posted by: Wade | November 3, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

I have seen enough of these nasty politics to last a lifetime.
Please vote for Barack Obama.

Posted by: TakingPictures | November 3, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

By the way, Election Day is tomorrow did Palin ever release ANY medical information?
Did she ever accept any responsibility for her unethical behavior in Alaska?
Did we ever find out why she charged taxpayers for her family travel and stay?

Posted by: TakingPictures | November 3, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am

kat Adkins: “Nadler’s comments really rocked the far right wing blogs all over the place. I wonder what principled sources are next.”
What difference does it make who was behind the the video? Nadler’s own words, in context, are what’s important. And you know what? He is just saying out loud what is obvious to many of us regarding Wright (and all of Obama’s other slimy associations) have long known — that Barack Obama lacks political courage.

Posted by: cappamore | November 3, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Taking Pictures, you are so concerned about Palin’s medical records. I think they should be released, too. I also think that Obama should release his. He should also release all of the other records that have somehow disappeared or are otherwise unavailable — IL state senate records and schedule; Occidental, Columbia and Harvard records, etc…..

Posted by: cappamore | November 3, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

The Sarah Palin video showing a minister praying for god to protect her from witches should really be out there, from all media sources.

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

I didn’t vote for John or Barack, although had there been no other choices I would have fallen the way of McCain. I am very disturbed over the personal attacks that I have heard and read on John McCain. My own mail lady, in her 50′s, said that she couldn’t vote for a man who”holds his arms funny and looks stupid doing so”! That just about broke my heart! I than had to explain to her his military history and why he “walks funny”. She was so embarrassed, said she didn’t know. Perhaps she should have done her homework. A man who has given so much of himself on the line for this country and you cruelly make fun of him. Yes, he graduated towards the bottom of his class, because, he would buck the system. He received many medals for his sacrifice. He was highly admired in the academy, but, kept getting into trouble, because he didn’t follow the rules. That is where he became known as the maverick. I also suggest that he survived the torture and the refusing to go home early, because, he is a moral man. Now you will say, moral? He cheated on his wife, yes he did. You walk a mile in the shoes of a person who has been throughh hell and back and than let us see how you act. War and torture change people. We have no right to judge anyone, especially a person who has been through a war that he was SENT too!! I lost a brother and an uncle in Vietnam and I was a nurse stationed in Vietnam, so you see people, unless you have been there, you really need to “button it up”. People will give of themselves every day to make this a better country and many times it is a thankless job, but, never, ever, attack anyone who puts their butt on the line, for you, without thinking about it. Look around you, we may not always agree with the wars, but, we should bestow the highest respect upon those who have gone and returned back home and those who paid the highest price. We have all been touched, in some way, by the bad judgements made by our government, but, you should never bad mouth the ones sent over to do the job you won’t do. How about your grandparents and uncles in the earlier wars do you humiliate them as well? I am so sorry to be in a country where attacking someone is the “norm”! Remember who fought for every freedom you now enjoy. It could have easily been you or someone you love. What would your answer have been? Flee to Canada or some where else Let us all pray for this country, because, if these message boards are any indication, we will need it!!! RESPECT something some of us could use!!!

Posted by: zeuser89 | November 3, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Wow, I’m not the only one that has noticed how John McCain looks so stodgy, sorry, but it’s true.

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

Well, SHIRLEY, you proved my point!! Feel better now? How is that pathetic little life of yours treating you?

Posted by: zeuser89 | November 3, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

political courage = opposing the invasion of Iraq in 2003 before it was launched.
posting a video of a person who admits not knowing what he is talking about as if it is newsworthy = journalistic malpractice.
believing what the man says = intellectual incompetence.

Posted by: Ed | November 3, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

My pathetic little life is going wonderfully, and soon so will yours

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

“What difference does it make with who is behind the video?”
Call me an idealist, but I think journalism on a major tv/media outlet should strive for some semblance of unbiased sources. Otherwise, as apparent earlier before the clean up, extreme responses can get the upper hand. Right leaning info = right leaning reinforcement + backlash.

Posted by: kat | November 3, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

My Jewish friends, wake up. What more do we have to say….Wright, Farrakhan, Khalidi, Hamas, and now this tape from Democrat Nadler!!!!
Obama is NOT your friend!
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR McCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | November 3, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

The people of Chicago are still waiting for their hero Obama to call for a surge to stop the thousands and thousands of people who have been murdered in his home town. With less than half the population of New York City, Chicago has taken the title of murder capital for a number of years that Obama has been a state or US representative.
Obama is SO BRAVE calling on the Iraqi government to take on the terrorists. But when it comes to HIS HOME TOWN politicians and cronies like Daley, Blagojevich, Jones and Rezko, it is Obama the Silent One…..
What a hero!

Posted by: Obama Chicago Hero | November 3, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

The country has already decided who they trust in this election, tomorrow we seal the deal.

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Speaking of courage, how come you guys conveniently left out the fact that Nadler DENIED Obama had Palestinians in the Hamas controlled Gaza working phone banks for him in the primaries? There’s Al-Jazeera video of it on U-Tube.
But, hey, you’re ABC…pay no attention to what’s happening to your country; we’re the MSM…we’ll be sure to keep you posted on what we think its necessary for you to know.
You should be ashamed of yourselves…

Posted by: Paul | November 3, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

SHIRLEY: So I don’t need my life to improve under anyone. Since you know so much about BO why don’t you tell me who will be in his cabinet and what will be the first imorovements that he will get through congress and than tell me how long it will be before all of his 1,000,000,000 promises will become a betterment of our society. If your life is going so well than why do you need Obama to make yours better? We haven’t been hurt by the downhill economy and come the first of the year we will have a 3600.00 a year pay raise in our pocket because we will have paid off some loans. I will take that any day over BO 1000.00 a year tax credit, but, hey since he is going to give us $1000.00 tax credit, I will take it. Don’t need it, but, I am part of his middle class that will accept his measley little “redistribution of wealth”! I am not dependant on BO cleaning up my mistakes, I just worry that he will screw up everyone..including you!!! That is where we differ I happen to care about everyone, you care only about your own little world!!!!!

Posted by: zeuser89 | November 3, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Oh boy zeuser89, I tell you just alittle about me, I am an American living in Norway, a country with the highest standard of living in the world, a country that truly believes the government should be for the people and by the people. I will be glad when America goes back to being that kind of country, I will be able to move home if I choose. Now go ahead and say it, I know what is coming next, your going to tell me to stay here. Who cares?

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

all you republican ‘experts’ have all that secret info and no body listens to you.. damn…
I guess when you see each on the the street
you have to give each other the Palin ‘wink’
and say something ‘smart’ like… ‘gosh darn it, you betcha’…. and then you’ll feel better about losing.

Posted by: dewde | November 3, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

All my Jewish friends are voting McCain. I can’t believe I’m watching an Obama ad here in Los Angeles right now. Boy, this guy has money to burn. Too bad he broke his promise to take public finance and took away the level playing field for McCain. Elections will never be the same after they figure they can “buy” it. And yes, Gaza phone banks were set up for Obama….google it.

Posted by: Hopey Uniter, is Dopey Divider | November 3, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Obama didn’t promise to take public finance, he only promised to look into it.
Frankly he needed the money to over come racism and the republican smear machine. Smart man, he’ll serve our country well.

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

You have to give it to Nadler: he is at best right on, at worst minimizing the Obama & Wright partnership.

Posted by: Rod | November 3, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Shirley: You are wrong, again. I live in Florida and it is a very large community of Cubans, Haitians, Central Americans and the list goes on!!! Everybody is welcome here and everybody is welcome to come back home, I don’t care!!! I would love to see America become that strong again, but, our government refuses to be for the people anymore. Sounds good, but, it won’t happen. Simply being a good speaker and using a cadence of Yes we can and Change only keeps people from following the truth. BO has been running for President since he was voted into the Senate. It is all about his making history and feeding his large ego. If I really thought he cared I would be a big supporter. So far I have only seen a groundswell of desperate people hoping that he will get them out of the mess they have put themselves in. How can you blame, really blame, the republicans for people who bought houses that they knew they could not afford, they should have understood what they were signing, people living beyond their means and living on credit, buying new cars every year and the list goes on. You can’t expect the taxpayers to bail people out of their own messes it is not fair. Once the Democrats gain a larger share of Congress and they get their own agenda passed how do you think that will help anyone? Isn’t that the same thing people accused the Repubs of? If in your heart you really are expecting Barack Obama to save the world than so be it, but, just don’t be disappointed when he turns out to be another politician with his own agenda and his own large ego. Pretty words get nothing done, but, I have seen the crowds and I have seen the blind adoration of his followers and frankly, it scares me to death. I am entitled to my opinion and I work real hard at not being nasty and vile, but, when you attacked McCain by calling him stodgy, you also insulted me. I am a retired vietnam veteran and I didn’t agree with the war, but, I had no choice except to try to save the lives of our people and all I received was getting slapped upside the head for it, really shows someones true color. As Americans we should just agree to disagree. I strongly agree with that, but, I will not aimlessly attack someone simply because they like doing it to someone else. I am not stupid, I am not blind and I have a right to believe what I believe, if you give people that right it is a wonderful thing, but, Obama supporters seem to think that we should be sent to an island for speaking out against your belief. It bothers me to think that this is what Obama has taught his followers. If you get that from BO than I do have a right to worry about where his Presidency is headed. I didn’t vote for either Obama or McCain, and that also is my right.

Posted by: zeuser89 | November 3, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

John Dean: Republican Rule Is Dangerous
Nixon’s former counsel has written a scathing review of conservative Republican politics and says the McCain-Palin ticket, which “scares the hell out of me,” fits the mold. How’s this for an endorsement?:
“If Obama is rejected on November 4th for another authoritarian conservative like McCain, I must ask if Americans are sufficiently intelligent to competently govern themselves.”

Posted by: T | November 3, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

For weeks, Republican leaders have warned that widely reported problems with fake voter registrations could result in a flood of phony votes in pivotal states.
But Ronald Michaelson, a veteran election administrator and member of the McCain-Palin Honest and Open Election Committee, said in an interview that he could not name a single instance in which this had occurred.
“Do we have a documented instance of voting fraud that resulted from a phony registration form? No, I can’t cite one, chapter and verse,” he said.
Which makes their accusations a form of fraud in its own right, doesn’t it? One that’s been falsely used to fuel “Republicans’ invocation of legal power to scrutinize voters, demands for U.S. Justice Department intervention and court orders, and criminal investigations.”

Posted by: T | November 3, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Actually, I change my mind: Nadler is trying to justify Obama and spin Obama’s disgraceful life-long relationship with Wright.
If Obama had come to believe Wright was a lunatic he wouldn’t have invited him to give the benediction at the announcement of his candidacy for President, then hide him in the basement.
Twenty years of your adult life at age 47 is a lifetime. Nah, Obama truly loved Wright.

Posted by: Rod | November 3, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Don’t you think Sahara looks reel pretty?
I’d love to see her in the White House.
Go McCane (he was a POW, you know).

Posted by: Typikal McCane Supporter | November 3, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Good grief — without commenting on Nadler, what the hell are you doing looking at Pam Geller’s site? She thinks Obama’s father is Malcom X. And that’s not the nuttiest thing she believes.
You’ve fallen far in my esteem, Mr. Tapper …

Posted by: Chup, Bryan, TX | November 3, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

U.S. soldiers have donated more presidential campaign money to Democrat Barack Obama than to Republican John McCain, a reversal of previous campaigns in which military donations tended to favor GOP White House hopefuls, a nonpartisan group reported Thursday.
Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama’s presidential campaign as they have to McCain’s, the Center for Responsive Politics said.

Posted by: T | November 3, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Journalism died this election cycle. SFChronicle actively, professionally ‘hides’ Sen Obama’s coal caps comments, LATimes ‘sits’ on a controversial Israel hating dinner fest, illegal immigrant Aunt fighting deportation in Boston, as public a record as there is which Sen Obama does not know about & media ignores totally, Joe the Plumber gets governmentally checked out in Ohio immediately & all out derided by our 1st Amendment protected media guardians, the sub-prime crisis is totally misreported to protect Sen Dodd (#1 FNMA/FreddieMc recipient; Sen Obama #4), Cong Barney Frank, Sec’ys Cisneros & Cuomo, Countrywide, etc., this event in Florida where-a non-media person has to relay this to the world. Never in my lifetime have I seen such an actively almost propagandistic effort by 95% of media to see one person & one party get elected. I never realized the power of Keith Olberman, to sway so many of his peers. Jokes on me I guess Thank heavens we have universities & graduate schools to instill critical & objective thinking. CNN & MSNBC/CNBC (I don’t know who is more in the tank) make Fox seem like the impartiality of Solomon’s wisdom. I am forced to watch Fox because there is no other alternative to any news portrayal & asssociated analysis. Even C-Span,, which used to be reasonably objective is now infected with standard main stream media bias. Last, liberal bias is one thing, it has been there ever since I started voting (very liberal to boot not waking up until Reagan terms) in the 1970s. But this election has crossed over to active partisan support, propaganda promulgation, adulation, uncritical examination, blatant slanting and outright drop of any pretense of professionalim.

Posted by: Reaction To Closed Minds | November 3, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Zeuser89,I do respect your right to free speech, and I want to apologize if I seemed not to.

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Wright embraces Black Liberation Theology. Obama knows what that is or he is the dumbest Harvard grad ever. It teaches that white people are the cause of all evil in the world and should be eliminated, among other things. Twenty years in a racist church makes me sick. If you don’t care about his lack of character, fine. Socialism bothers me also and the sexism toward Hillary bothers me. I though all you progressives cared about these “isms” too. Where is your backbone to stand against these things that Obama stands for and the dems apparently stand for as well?

Posted by: Patricia | November 3, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

The media has been too kind to Senator McCain and Sarah Palin, they’ve only reported half of what they should have been reporting.

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Schadenfreude:
.. is the gleeful joy you experience when someone else gets his just desserts or has his comeuppance.
I believe I am experiencing this, lil bit guilty about it……. but I am enjoying seeing republicans SQUIRMING and flailing about like chickenhawks without heads……..

Posted by: Blue | November 3, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Nadler was cornered and blurted out some truth. Unless Obama also subscribes to Black Liberation Theology and that is why he stayed in that despicable church. Did you catch the so-called priest, Pfleger, making fun of Hillary from the pulpit of Trinity UCC? He acted like a total a$$. Wright often acted like a total a$$ in the pulpit, too. Making fun of white people and people who do not think like they do. Guess Obama was projecting when he talked about the bitter bible and gun clingers with antipathy toward those who do not look like them.

Posted by: Patricia | November 3, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Personally I wish Obama wasn’t a Bible thumper, but to make it into politics they all have to be.

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

No news here.
Everyone knows Obama is a wimp.
He’s only brave when mocking women, and plumbers.
Our enemies are waiting to celebrate if he wins.

Posted by: sam | November 3, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

So, some think Obama just spouts off that bible gobbledygook so that he could make it in politics. He does not really believe in any of it. Just for clarity, Black Liberation Theology has very little to do with the Bible.

Posted by: Patricia | November 3, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

WELCOME TO THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH IF MCCAIN WINS !!!!
WELCOME TO THE “UNITED STATES SOCIALISM” IF OBAMA WINS (GOD FORBID)

Posted by: johnjack | November 3, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

The old ‘socialist bolly hoo just doesn’t work anymore. Like doctor phil says, that dog don’t hunt.

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Black LIberation Theology has very little to do with the bible . . .
The great Martin Luther King preceeded Black Libertion Theology. Matin Luther King took his principles for nonviolence and activism from the teachings of Jesus.
But then to dredge up Wright, dredges up old arguments which have nothing to do with the economic and foreign policies which impact our lives. Wright is nothing more than a deliberate distraction.

Posted by: kat | November 3, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

I forgot, socialism is not one of the “isms” that progressives do not like. Supposedly sexism and racism are bad except when it is Obama practicing those isms or friends of Obama’s practicing those isms. Sorry about the socialism stuff. So called progressives are more than happy with the socialism, marxism, communism stuff.

Posted by: Patricia | November 3, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

To everyone out there, you will not get us to change our minds about the person best suited to be president. It won’t happen!!!! You have your opinion and they have theirs and that is okay. If we ever expect this country to bridge the wide gap caused by both sides in this election than we need to remember that we are one country, one people and without each other we have nothing. Politicians aside, we don’t need them as much as we need each other. We are what makes this country run, not washington d.c., be glad that they are there and not involved in our everyday life. If we keep dissing each other this country will fall apart.

Posted by: Cathy | November 3, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

If having national health care is socialism, bring it on baby, you betcha’ wink wink

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

Kat, explain a little bit of Black Liberation Theology to me. If Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., espoused Black Liberation Theology then he was out of bounds, just like Jeremiah Wright. At least for me because I do not believe that whites are the cause of all the evil in the world. Nor do I believe that white people should be eliminated. But if that is what Martin Luther King Jr. believed, then I would not think very much of him, either. Besides, the article we are talking about references Obama’s relationship to Wright and Trinity UCC. The so-called distraction is the topic.

Posted by: Patricia | November 3, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

National Health care is not the problem, finding a doctor who doctors is the problem. The best insurance you can buy does not make good health care, it only gets you in the door, after that the insurance has finished its job. Be careful what you wish for. I know of which I speak I have been in the health care system for 14 years, have the best insurance my husband’s job offers and I pay my copay, which, has to be paid before you see the doctor, because once you pay it than you can’t get it back when you walk out of the door from a doctor who only treats the symptoms never the cause. You cannot make a doctor practice medicine. So insurance only gets you in the door. If they cannot prscribe a medicine for it than the problem you have does not exist. People need to remember that health care cannot be mandated.

Posted by: Cathy | November 3, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Cathy, I am a long time nurse, I know about the broken system we have. I am now living in Norway, and I can tell you national health care is great! The richest country in the world can pull it off, if they place human life before profits.

Posted by: shirley | November 3, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

I certainly don’t agree with all of Wright’s verbiage, but he has categorically never said that white people are the root of all evil and that they should be eliminated. I truly believe you’re expressing a profound fear of African Americans. I think there’s been a strong subtext of fear surrounding Obama’s candidacy, perhaps that of African Americans abusing power towards whites in a repeat history of sorts. When repetitive incendiary topics are brought up, the incendiary likely follows. I hope the Wright article topic has been totally exhausted on this ABC website, but somehow, I doubt it. And I hope the people who fear Obama can learn to see beyond the shadows of their fear.

Posted by: kat | November 3, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm

My previous post was for Particia @ 3:43. I thought I’d clarify that and emphasize again that I find the topic of Wright inappropriate for a major news outlet.

Posted by: kat | November 3, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

We still cannot expect us to be like Norway. Richest country or not you still cannot make doctors practice medicine. What are you going to do hold a gun to their heads. They either want to practice, and I hate that term, because they do at times just practice, or they aren’t. No politician in this country can make them do that. Over here every politician is loyal to only the lobbyists that keep them there. It sounds god. vut, I have been around for a long time and no one party or one man can change the way they do things. It simply will not happen. If it was as easy as the way Norway does it than why are all of the other countries, England, Canada still failing? It has little to do with money as it does with covering their own butts. It sounds nice, but, it will not happen in this country until politicians start to care and I mean in more than just words. Actions speak louder than words. Both candidates haven’t been able to vote for anything that matters. If you can’t take a stand and make a decision there isn’t much hope. Another four years of pointing the fingers at the other side!!!

Posted by: Cathy | November 3, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

“To be black is to be committed to destroying everything this country loves and adores.” Or again, “Black theology will accept only a love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy.” James Cone, founder of black liberation theology. Sorry Kat, I did get Cone and Farrakhan mixed up a little, but it’s all part of the same crapola.
It’s tough to swallow that the possibly next POTUS adhered to this stuff or at least is friends with people who adhered to this stuff. He, at the very least, used Wright as his spiritual mentor, preacher and advisor. He let his kids listen to Wrights hateful sermons.

Posted by: Patricia | November 3, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

Patricia – I don’t know where you’re getting your quotes from. Black Liberation Theology falls under the umbrella of Social Christianity and Wright was a United Church of Christ minister. I have issues with BLT myself but not demonizing ones. Your’e expressing the kind of fear, misunderstanding and anger that have been present at McCain rallies and which ultimately helped to bring down his campaign.

Posted by: kat | November 3, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

No, Miss Kat, these quotes came from James Cone himself, the founder of BLT. You can try to make me the bad guy here, but it looks like i’m the only one speaking truth to power as some love to say. Read Cone for yourself. Don’t try to accuse me of putting words in his mouth. Read him and then talk to me. Cone also tells us that Blacks hate Whites for sure, but that does not make blacks racists. It is a righteous hatred in his words. Im the type that goes right to the source. The source is Cone’s own books and writings. Check it out before you accuse me of irrational fear. I just want to know what people really believe, not what they want me to believe they believe.

Posted by: Patricia | November 3, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Kat, maybe you are afraid to let the truth be known or afraid to face the truth yourself because it is so despicable.

Posted by: Patricia | November 3, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Did I ever mention that McCain is my candidate? The answer to that is “no.” You assume because I have problems with Obama’s belief system, that I support McCain. See, you went there and I never even said it. Your mind filtered things the way you wanted to see them. That is why I go to people’s writings before I believe what someone says about them. I am on very solid ground with this BLT crap and this is what Obama’s spiritual mentor and preacher believes. I think everyone should be a little troubled by that belief system.

Posted by: Patricia | November 3, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

If you think there is hatred at McCain rallies, what do you think of those that attend Obama rallies wearing tee shirts that say “Sarah Palin is a —?

Posted by: Patricia | November 3, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Patricia -No, the truth is not despicable. Black Liberation Theology is a product of the sixties when segregation was still taking place in schools. It wasn’t that long after After American’s were denied the facilities of whites (front of the bus, restrooms,ect.). Many agree with Obama that BLT is outdated and poses little relevance in todays world. Furthermore, I don’t like its emphasis on victimization. Fortunately, I encounter racism, which can be despicable, very infrequently in my environment and associations. I’ve had enough at this point in writing back and forth to someone with racist tendencies, though you don’t strike me as a bad person at all, just a fearful one. Enough said.

Posted by: kat | November 3, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Typo: It wasn’t that long after African Americans had been denied the facilities . . . . I’ve done enough typing today. Patricia ,I didn’t presume you were a McCain supporter. I just found your views similar to what was being expressed at rallies 2-3 weeks ago where Obama was being presented as the Other, as someone different to be feared along with his associations, with care being taken not to put his otherness as an African American. Gotta go.

Posted by: kat | November 3, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Well if Pamela Geller thinks that, why don’t we have Lyndon LaRouche’s opinion on it?

Posted by: Righteous Bubba | November 3, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Hamas in Church Bulletin (“spiritual mentor” on Enemy side).
Audacious1: “I don’t believe my Church is, uh, particularly controversial”.
A2: “I can no more disown Rev.Wright…”
A3: Wright officially disowned; “I wasn’t there when he made those detestable remarks.”
Nadler: “Presumably” …

Posted by: SmokingGun | November 3, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm

I’ve been told day and night by the media, celebrities, etc. that if i do not vote for Obama, I am a racist. I plan on embracing my inner racist and letting it all hang out just like j. wright, l. farrakhan, k. rashidi, j. cone, meeks, et al. I think blacks should embrace their inner racists as well and instead of hating whites privately, just let it out. My experience is that blacks hate Latinos, Asians and others who are not like them.

Posted by: Patricia | November 4, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Hello there! This is my first comment here so I just wanted to give a quick shout out and say I really enjoy reading through your articles. Can you recommend any other blogs/websites/forums that deal with the same subjects? Thanks a ton!

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