Nov 18, 2008 9:26pm
Obama Loves the 90s
Eric Holder, Rahm Emanuel, Hillary and Bill Clinton, Greg Craig, Ron Klain, maybe Larry Summers…
I feel like I should grow a goatee, smoke an American Spirit and crank up some Smashing Pumpkins.
Gotta go, "X-Files" is on…
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Posted by: TNeedle | November 18, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
I confess I should have given Obama more of the benefit of the doubt. This guy is all about politics as usual at an amazing level. I thought he was way too naive to really be able to put up much of a political show, or he was going to be prone to the influence of nefarious characters like Reverend Wright. Turns out that Obama is so much of a cliche politician that it’s impossible for the nefarious characters to even reach him, he’s the most inside insider of all time, then outsiders don’t even have a role. I do think we’ll the federal lobbyists feeding from the same troughs, though.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | November 18, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
Yeah jake he didnt like them so much during the primaries wow how things change(sarcastic laugh). I knew he would do this appoint ever ex clinton administration employee he could oh I am sorry every ex clinton person except a real clinton. This is why I voted for Hillary in the primaries if we were going to get these appointees anyway not just vote for the real clinton swhile we are at it. I can’t say I am too upset with his appointments as of now, I just know he lied through his teeth and no matter what he said during the primaries he knows the clinton adminstration was full of talent and did a great job,and all his trash talk on the clinton adminstration was just that talk.
Posted by: rachel | November 18, 2008, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
the change is the guy who picks the best people for the job…
but maybe that is too hard for the people who voted for GW.
Posted by: dl | November 18, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Why take a shot at my half-beard? Why, Jake? Why?
Posted by: Chuck Todd | November 18, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
I loved the 90′s too. I had whole LOT more money, promise for the future, peace and prosperity in that decade than I do now.
Posted by: Paige | November 18, 2008, 9:57 pm 9:57 pm
I guess it would have been nice of him to let his supporters know this during the campaign. Here you are America’s Obama supporters: meet the new boss same as the old boss…
Posted by: don | November 18, 2008, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
we should have elected sen. clinton to be president.
seems like we are getting the right body, without getting the right head.
Posted by: What? | November 18, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Paige – read an intro to economics book. Your prosperity of the 90′s is what you are paying for now. Economic booms and busts are not mutually exclusive. Your – what dramatic term did you use? Promise for the future? LMAO – was an illusion. Crawl out from under the rock in which you live and get with it before posting uneducated and uninformed comments like yours.
Posted by: don | November 18, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Promise for the future? LMAO – was an illusion. Crawl out from under the rock in which you live and get with it before posting uneducated and uninformed comments like yours.
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Classy – So Hannityesque…. Gosh – Do you recall us preemptively invading another country in the 90′s on poor intelligence and a lie?
Do you recall a policy of belittling our allies and crying foul when they don’t cooperate in the 90′s?
You open the textbook Don – I have the Economics degree and you just need a few lessons from Emily Post.
Posted by: Paige | November 18, 2008, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
What’s the saying…History repeats itself…
Bet Drudge is just pinching himself and Linda Tripp already declared herself.
The 90′s were good for America and hopefully the last of the naughties will improve to some dgree.
Obama is making interesting choices, we shall see how they play out.
Besides the X Files were better than most of the crap on the networks today.
Back to the future … is the theme. Ken Starr what are you doing now, you little turd.
Posted by: i am so I can! | November 18, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
LOL at Chuck Todd…? Lol.
Posted by: i am so I can! | November 18, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Mr Devil’s Advocate Jake,
Everybody loves the 90s, Obama is not the only one. And, FYI, everybody seems to forget that most of these people were EARLY Obama backers, which means they pledged to implement Obama’s agenda even when Hillary’s was still an option. Where was this outcry when they were clearly working for him during the primaries?
And for those saying they wish Hill had been president after all, actually these are not the people Hillary would have brought along. These are the dissenters who would not have seen the interior of that White house if she had won. Hill would have brought Penn, Ickes, Carville, STEPENO…, the dreadful list goes on.
Posted by: Question | November 18, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
Clintonistas, American Spirits, X Files, Billy Corgan… yeah that pretty much sums up 1994-98 for me.
Damn, those were good years.
Posted by: isaac | November 18, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
OBAMA, THE CLINTONITE.
WHY WAS HE BASHIBNG THE CLINTONS?
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | November 18, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
But did he change the Southside of Chicago for the better? Did he touch and inspire one little life for the better? No. Why? Because that would be a lot of work. Don’t worry folks. This guy’s not gonna do anything. He did write two mediocre books, about his favorite subject. Himself. And one of them “Dreams of my Father” basically just talked about how he learned to manipulate white people into giving him opportunities because they feel guilty about slavery and racism. So that was pretty interesting. But really, nothing is gonna happen on this guy’s watch.
Posted by: Wake Up America | November 18, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
It seem that everything about the Clinton’s was bad five months ago.
Posted by: Vi | November 18, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Jake, spare us the doofy comments, please. Obama decided to pick some experienced hands. Is that ok? Should he have just gone with some of his starry-eyed volunteers (I count myself as one of these) who never had any high-level government experience?
Posted by: w_roos | November 18, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Obama and global warming are the two biggest frauds ever foisted on the united states of america.
Posted by: Hal A. Burton | November 18, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm
Smashing Pumpkins suck.
Go ahead and grow the goatee, Jake – but give the guy a little elbow room ..
Posted by: R Mutt | November 18, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
The Dems have a deep bench rich in talent that was brought along and nurtured during the 2 Clinton terms. Obama would be foolish not to take advantage of it.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | November 19, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
I’m all for that, Jake. Goatees are sexy.
Posted by: ziadora | November 19, 2008, 1:03 am 1:03 am
He will make it work. That is what he has promised; that is what he will deliver.
Watch and learn
Posted by: Thinking | November 19, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Unless there are specific issues with the 90s people, I am all for experience. Our country is facing far the worst economic condition since the depression, a huge deficit from Bush, and two wars.
I am getting tired of all the media repeating it looks like the Clintons without providing any reason why that is bad.
Posted by: Julie | November 19, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
As the old saying goes: “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.
The whole system has been broken for the past eight years. Obama is serious and determined to fix it again. GOOD JOB!
Posted by: FM | November 19, 2008, 1:53 am 1:53 am
I am getting tired of all the media repeating it looks like the Clintons without providing any reason why that is bad.
Posted by: Julie | Nov 19, 2008 1:27:01 AM
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Yup, I think there is some real jealousy going on.
Posted by: ziadora | November 19, 2008, 1:55 am 1:55 am
Smashing Pumpkins…yet another Chicago connection. ;-)
Posted by: Tom J | November 19, 2008, 3:04 am 3:04 am
Holder, Summers and Craig backed Obama from the beginning against Senator Hillary Clinton. Klain worked for Gore in the Clinton Administration and has long been a strong supporter and associate of Vice President-Elect Biden.
Emanuel remained neutral in the primaries, but has always been part of tthe Democratic Leadership Council-Clinton part of the Party.
Those who supported Obama and Biden did NOT think Senator Hillary Clinton was qualified or the best choice for President.
Nor do they think she is qualified for Secretary of State. Perhaps Emanuel does.
Posted by: susan | November 19, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am
It’s okay for him to repeat the 90′s
at least back then the economy was thriving and and were not worried about whether not we were going to have a job.
Posted by: sandy | November 19, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am
This “theme of the week” is getting a little tiresome. Looks to me like he’s learned from the mistakes made by the Carter and Clinton administrations. He’s moving quickly to bring in people who are good at what they do and know their way around Congress.
We should be so lucky that he brings back the nineties…eight years of peace and prosperity (without the psychodrama).
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 19, 2008, 7:03 am 7:03 am
The problem is that Obama claimed “change,” and he’s not living up to that. He used deception to get elected.
Posted by: tina | Nov 19, 2008 7:12:00 AM
Look on the bright side, at least he isn’t getting people from the Bush administration!
Posted by: Jwench | November 19, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am
This is CHANGE. Competence is a BIG change from the last 8 years. Yes We Can!!!
Posted by: pt | November 19, 2008, 7:32 am 7:32 am
if not from the clinton era…then WHERE? the bush era??? y’all people need to smarten-up
obama needs people that are competent and KNOWS washington, why do the SAME mistake bill clinton done and bring in complete ROOKIES to his cabinet????
Posted by: gluvnast | November 19, 2008, 7:41 am 7:41 am
It is NOT fair to put Rham E. and Eric H. in the Clinton group – that is NOT where Barack knows them from. They are FRIENDS and CLOSE associates of HIS. These men were on his team outwardly or silently from the begining and NOT on Clinton’s.
To be fair, I was steamed at the idea of so many Clintonites – but these two cannot be only seen as that. They are much more to Obama than they were to Clinton – They are part of a team of people he connected with outside of the Clinton Whitehouse.
So what if he takes the best from everyone – even Clinton.
They are OBAMANITES now!
Posted by: Independant Woman | November 19, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
Most of these naysayers weren’t even born when Clinton was President or they are GWB fans. I’d like the 90′s back economy-wise.
Posted by: Jwench | November 19, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am
sen. clinton is in the senate, she should stay there,
let obama find his own sos, from his own group.
it is time obama left the clinton(s)
alone.
Posted by: What? | November 19, 2008, 9:27 am 9:27 am
Maybe that is why Biden is holding off on resigning senate seat. Waiting to be replaced by Kurt Cobain. The 90s rule!!
Posted by: Lisa S | November 19, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
To Obama, competence is a high value, in contrast to the crony capitalism of the current Administration.
The ’90s were a great time. I’m down for another eight years of peace and prospertiy.
Posted by: Rich | November 19, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
To Obama, competence is a high value, in contrast to the crony capitalism of the current Administration.
Cronies are cronies….Obama can’t put his own in power, so he using Clinton’s!
Posted by: Mike_C | November 19, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Hey if Obama likes the Clinton’s and their staff so much, why doesn’t he just ask Bill to take back his old job….then the picture would be complete.
Posted by: Suzanne | November 19, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
oh god,
alan keyes and ralph nader need to start their campaign bids for president,
on the moon.
i wish they would just go away,
thanks ralph for your service to the consumers of this country.
alan keyes? just go away
Posted by: u-n-i-t-y=UNITY | November 19, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Is Jake ok today? He hasn’t posted anything today, or am I not seeing them?
Posted by: Question | November 19, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
yeah? JPT where are you?
Posted by: u-n-i-t-y=UNITY | November 19, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
“Smells like Teen Spirit…” Nirvana was way better than Billy Pumpkin.
Posted by: Roxie | November 19, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
The same names from the 90′s who brought down the economy, Fantastic! He really IS trying to be the next Jimmy Carter!!!
Posted by: hmn | November 19, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
“The same names from the 90′s who brought down the economy,”
ROFLMAO.
Interesting alternate universe right wingers live in where the Clinton economy was bad and Bush protected us from terrorists.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 19, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Jake,
I thought the punditry consensus was that the Obama Admin. was supposed to come in and “hit the ground running”?
Do you expect them to hire people from state governments or private industry to posts in key agencies who would have to spend 2-3 months acclimating themselves to a completely new organization?
Should they bring in political neophytes?
Will no-names instill confidence in the markets and electorate?
Should Obama turn the government over to a bunch of lackeys from Arkansas or Texas with no Washington experience and enjoy how they stumble and bumble along for a few months or a year? Seems like we tried that and what did we get?
The Arkansas crowd ushered in 12 years of GOP Congressional rule.
The Texas crowd created the greatest succession of colossal blunders in our nation’s history. From:
-letting Enron et.al game the electricity markets,
-ignoring memos that read “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S..”,
-Katrina,
-Iraq WMD lies and fiasco,
-complete fiscal mismanagement,
-creating and allowing conditions to send oil prices thru the roof
-appointing and keeping in office every possible incompetant
-driving the economy into the ground
-etc., etc.
I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer people with a proven record and an air of competence. Like those who had a hand in creating economic growth, increasing household income, reducing poverty, lowering unemployment, reducing crime, etc.
You know, like all the stuff that happened in the 90s.
Or, should we call Sarah Palin to see if any of her high school friends from Wasilla are still out of work?
Come to think of it, it could be a real genius move for Obama to put someone with real “main street” experience in drafting wills and filling in quit claim deed templates as our next Attorney General. Hey, if it worked for Sarah, what could go wrong?
I’ll put up a “help wanted” notice on the City of Wasilla’s online job board right now.
Posted by: Bud | November 19, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Yeah the 90′s had cheap gas and economic prosperity.Obama knows that and will bring in people that know how to make that happen.If you listen to the debate from 2007 Barack said he’d hope to have Hillary advising him too.The worst the Clinton’s had was scandals. What did the Bush administration give us? Obama is doing fine with me.Stop trying to find fault.Uh duh, Clinton administration operatives are a “change” from the bush administration.
Posted by: TV | November 19, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Only the Clintons can save the economy. It’s another 400 points today! S.O.S., Please, Please answer the call, Hillary.
Posted by: expecting | November 19, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
TV,
I don’t know where you have been hiding, but Pres. 0bama equate the Clinton administration to that of the G. W. Bush’s administration, and he wanted to “turn the page” of the Clinton’s.
He was lying all along, or he realized his shortcomings to be qualified to be the president now. Whatever it is, he relies on the Clintons to save his behind since the convention.
Posted by: fat cat | November 19, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
Eric Holder, Susan Rice, Creg Craig etc…were all Obama advisers during the primaries, not Clinton’s. The change Obama ran on was also theirs. I hope Susan Rice will be the National Security Adviser.
Posted by: tchanta | November 19, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
“I don’t know where you have been hiding, but Pres. 0bama equate the Clinton administration to that of the G. W. Bush’s administration, and he wanted to “turn the page” of the Clinton’s.”
He was speaking about leaving the partisan battles of the 90′s behind.
And I think his magnanimity with Joementum and his meeting with McCain shows that.
Posted by: Ryan C | November 19, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
I think many of you are missing Jake’s point. There is nothing wrong with picking experienced Washington hands. Just as there is nothing wrong with picking people who have lobbied in Washington. It makes perfect sense and both parties do that when they win the White House. BUT the point is, Obama made a big deal of the fact that he was going to be different, that he wanted a change from not only the Bush years but the Clintons as well, that he had no room for lobbyists, that he wanted to bring in fresh faces. When he said it, there were those of us who said it was unrealistic of him to make such claims, that when he got elected, if he did, he would need to change his tune. He keeps doing that– saying one thing to get elected and doing something else in order to govern effectively. maybe some of us just wish he’d admit that he was mistaken in the past and that he is deliberately moving in a different direction. It is not what he’s doing now that is the problem, it’s what he said in the past that contradicts what he is doing now.
Posted by: moderate | November 19, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
American Spirits. Yeah.
Is that why the 90′s were so much better?
Posted by: thisniss | November 19, 2008, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Our people are losing that faith, not only in government itself but in the ability as citizens to serve as the ultimate rulers and shapers of our democracy. As a people we know our past and we are proud of it. Our progress has been part of the living history of America, even the world. We always believed that we were part of a great movement of humanity itself called democracy, involved in the search for freedom, and that belief has always strengthened us in our purpose. But just as we are losing our confidence in the future, we are also beginning to close the door on our past.
In a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities, and our faith in God, too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns. But we’ve discovered that owning things and consuming things does not satisfy our longing for meaning. We’ve learned that piling up material goods cannot fill the emptiness of lives which have no confidence or purpose.
The symptoms of this crisis of the American spirit are all around us. For the first time in the history of our country a majority of our people believe that the next five years will be worse than the past five years. Two-thirds of our people do not even vote. The productivity of American workers is actually dropping, and the willingness of Americans to save for the future has fallen below that of all other people in the Western world.
As you know, there is a growing disrespect for government and for churches and for schools, the news media, and other institutions. This is not a message of happiness or reassurance, but it is the truth and it is a warning.
Posted by: ? | November 20, 2008, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Suddenly experience is important. what about Obama, clearly he’s on the job training. The stock market is tanking because of his coming economic policies, besides dems have been declaring war on the investor class since even before the elections, so there you have it!
I hope the blind Obama supporters will do some research other than listening to the mainstream media that clearly adores Obama and helps him pass the Kool-Aid hence your brainwashed, canned answers and attacks to us who don’t agree with you.
Posted by: EliB | November 20, 2008, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Yeah. the 90′s were awesome. Hopefully these retreads will enjoy another perfect storm like we had with the fall of communism, globalization, a reduction in labor costs, the apogee of the information revolution and the resultant productivity gains brought about by huge advances in supply chain management.
Posted by: Scott | November 21, 2008, 7:37 am 7:37 am