By Jennifer Parker

Nov 24, 2008 7:42am

Obama Moves Fast on Economy

President-elect Barack Obama is announcing the members of his economic team today in Chicago.

After today he will have appointed more key economic advisers more quickly than any president ever before.

It’s a move his advisers hope will calm the markets and send a signal that he’s on top of the financial crisis.

But to put this into perspective: Obama has already done more than any president has ever done this quickly.

Here’s what to watch for at the Obama press conference today:   

#1 – Stimulus Package. His advisers are working behind the scenes to have a stimulus package for him to sign into law on Jan.20, 2009.

If they get anywhere close to that date it would be remarkable.

Expect Obama to signal that this stimulus package will be far bigger than the $175-billion package he was proposing during the campaign.

They are discussing a huge stimulus package in the $500-$700 billion range.

#2- Bush Tax Cuts. He is also likely to signal, though not say directly, that his repeal of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy is likely to come when they expire in 2010 than through any aggressive action before then.

Obama is also likely to send a signal to other world leaders that he would like every big country to move together on stimulus packages.

The president-elect has also been intimately involved through his advisers in the rescue package for Citigroup.

Timothy Geithner, the president of the New York Federal Reserve and Obama’s incoming Treasury Secretary, was working all weekend long on that.

Meanwhile Obama has been in regular contact with current Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson on the $700 Wall Street bailout.

Despite the fact that he’s said there’s only "one president at a time" — Obama is moving fast on the economy.

–George Stephanopoulos

User Comments

That’s what a “Do-er” does!

Posted by: Aaron | November 24, 2008, 8:13 am 8:13 am

I don’t think any of these “experts” have clue what their doing. Either the former administrative group, our Obama’s upcoming gang. Better chance solving the economic problems by just throwing darts at the board.

Posted by: LongT | November 24, 2008, 8:27 am 8:27 am

obama, and teams, have to move faster. america has been burning and everyone, in positions of power to get things done, has been standing around playing their fiddle. only the wealthy and powerful have felt no huge pain like the majority of americans. china has funded 500 billion for infrastructure work to keep the masses working else china would face a massive violent worker revolution. the potential exists for violent revolution here as well. what amerca needs to see is results, action and doing is fine but totally nonsense without positive results. america needs results now.

Posted by: Lawrence | November 24, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

Go ahead Obama, make my day. He understands what the people want and how to jump-start the economy. Above all he is always willing to learn

Posted by: anthony | November 24, 2008, 8:32 am 8:32 am

You sheepies just keep on following your master, while he and his fellow shepards fleece you. I for one will be laughing when his policies fail and you are still in the poor house.

Posted by: NOboma | November 24, 2008, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Evidently his cabinet won’t be any different. His new treasury secretary along with paulson, decided to give billions more to Citibank this past weekend. of course it was done behind closed doors. i guess Citi already blew through the 25 billions they got earlier from the 700 billion bailout. Everyone in D,C.=crooks.

Posted by: nono | November 24, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

Wow, what a refreshing change from the Bush administration. Bush would have needed a vacation in Crawford by now. Obama hasn’t taken a break yet. Even after he won the election he was working on the transfer the next morning. To all you naysayers, if he did nothing else that alone would be a “Change”.

Posted by: wirey | November 24, 2008, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Newly elected officials; we’re at the top and in charge. U.S. taxpayer, your not.

Posted by: LongT | November 24, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am

All I can say is “How Refreshing”, it’s like oping the window for the first time on a Spring day.

Posted by: pt | November 24, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am

My dear Barack Obama, I want to salute once again on your recent nomination as the President-Elect of the greatest nation on Earth, the USA.
I want you to know that God Almighty is on your side, and all kind-hearted people all over the world are right now praying for you and your family for success, protection from all known and unknown alarm, as well as favour with God and everyone that works with and for you,even the general american populace.
Ignore the doomsday prophets, naysayers and the pessimists, or the envious and failure-minded ones who are waiting for your mistakes or downfall.
I dare to tell these wicked, ungodly people that they will have to wait along time things like that to happen.
All their negative hope and expectations for you will fail. For I see you achieve more than those that have gone before you. You will thread where no one has thread before. God will give you the wisdom of Solomon, the courage of Joshua and Esther, the tenacity of Paul, the humility of Joseph, the strength of David, and the endurance of Abraham to achieve your goals.
You are going in the right direction. Just keep asking God for wisdom to rule and govern His people daily and your time will be a season of prosperity.
Yes, mistakes will be made during the course of your reign. But so what? and what does that matter? Show me one successful person on earth, who never failed before.
As long as you learn from them, just keep moving.
God ALmighty keep you, your family, and those close to you. No evil will befall you. God will expose those close to you who are waiting to harm you.

Posted by: Samuel Olumoyegun | November 24, 2008, 9:04 am 9:04 am

NOBAMA….
u would slam him no matter what, that is apparent! the man is trying to get on top of the ENORMOUS problems that george bush and his repug cronies have dumped in his lap yet u give no credit! your lame duck idiot is hangin loose saying farewell to his fat cat corporate buddies he made even more wealthy all the while our nation tailspins and here you are… DOGGING THE MAN WHO IS TRYING TO FIX ALL THE PAST IDIOTS MESS’S! i hear your idiot hero rush is blaming the current financial crisis on obama!!!! HE HAS NOT EVEN TAKEN CONTROL AND YET YOUR FILTHY PARTY STILL ATTACKS! NO WONDER YOU ALL WERE FIRED! nothing like kicking a man in the back of the legs while he is trying to get america back on his feet! repugs disgust me, thank god you all have virtually no power nor credibility left and these kinds of comments and attacks on obama are why !

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am

Obama is moving on the economic front as swiftly as he does on the basketball court. While all the swift moves to spend may boost the economy, the moutning deficits cannot beignored and will come to bite. I would hold his swift feet to his election promise of lifting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy because that is what contributed to the deficits and it is time the incompetent executives who ran their companies into the ground and lined heir pockets pay their fair share of the taxes. Remember Iceland. Don’t run deficits and lend monies and then ask for bail outs from IMF. Bush ran the deficit by not taxing the biggest beneficiaries of the American economy. Obama could run deficits by spending without balancing the budgets. End result is going to be the same a large than desirable deficit.

Posted by: gjkotw01 | November 24, 2008, 9:07 am 9:07 am

Anthony—well said. I agree, what makes our situation so hopeful is exactly his willingess to learn. This is exactly why I voted for Obama, I believe he WILL make things better. All you Obama bashers, go ahead and pick apart every move he makes. He is still YOUR president. Get over it and put your energy to better things.

Posted by: eandb'smom | November 24, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am

I am not a big fan of “Stimulus Packages” for several reasons, #1 – high administrative costs and waste to benefits, #2 – very short term (band-aid) – not real and long term economic pull. #3 – Politically looks like throwing money at a problem instead of solving the root cause of the problem.
Here are another alternatives. Negotiate with the Energy companies for stable gasoline prices between $1.50 to
$1.85 per gallon for terms of 18 months, and in return the Energy companies get a 15% tax break for the agreed terms of 18 months, then re-negotiate again.
In the Q1, deliver as promised tax cuts for the middle class with 15% tax for families and individual with incomes up to 175K. Do not repeal the Bush tax cuts as well.
Cut administrative costs within the Federal government and associate programs. Eliminate redundancy and consolidate cabinet level department with the goal to improve cost, quality and overall effectiveness.
Give the taxpayer and consumer change they can believe in.

Posted by: threeriverscrossing | November 24, 2008, 9:12 am 9:12 am

I am not a big fan of “Stimulus Packages” for several reasons, #1 – high administrative costs and waste to benefits, #2 – very short term (band-aid) – not real and long term economic pull. #3 – Politically looks like throwing money at a problem instead of solving the root cause of the problem.
Here are another alternatives. Negotiate with the Energy companies for stable gasoline prices between $1.50 to
$1.85 per gallon for terms of 18 months, and in return the Energy companies get a 15% tax break for the agreed terms of 18 months, then re-negotiate again.
In the Q1, deliver as promised tax cuts for the middle class with 15% tax cut for families and individual with incomes up to 175K. Do not repeal the Bush tax cuts as well.
Cut administrative costs within the Federal government and associate programs. Eliminate redundancy and consolidate cabinet level department with the goal to improve cost, quality and overall effectiveness.
Give the taxpayer and consumer change they can believe in.

Posted by: threeriverscrossing | November 24, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am

No solution is perfect. We’ve seen what Bush did: it created a huge mess. Let’s see what Obama will do and then we can pass a judgement on it.

Posted by: Ben | November 24, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

NOBAMA and Anthony…the typical “haters” and Bush Sackriders! No wonder this country has sunk so low with mentally challenged individuals criticizing Obama for doing and moving, unlike the retard we have in office now.
I did not vote for Obama, but I am satisfied with the level and speed at which he is moving things, and it has not been a month yet since he got elected! His Cabinet is almost done, his economic adviser team is done, he already described his 2.5 million job creation plan, etc, etc.
In 3 weeks he has shown more leadership and a “can do” attitude than Bush ever did in EIGHT LONG YEARS!
Get your heads out of your behinds, and lets work together in getting back on track, instead of doing what you do best: Criticize like dummies while doing nothing!

Posted by: ShervThePerv | November 24, 2008, 9:20 am 9:20 am

George Stephanopoulos is the political junkie’s best fix. Personally, I think one could just check in with him each day and be done with the news.

Posted by: dr. ebbandflow | November 24, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am

NOBAMA, it’s idiots like you that make this world screwed up as much as it is. Sheeez dude, at least give Obama time to put his plans into affect. If then they don’t work, THEN you can gripe and complain.
Right now your buddy Bush is still in control. I don’t see him doing much to improve what he’s screwed up during the last 8 years.

Posted by: LOfromMO | November 24, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Barry can move as fast or slow as he likes with the media at his back. For the next 4 years his every mistake will either be covered up or at the very least minimized. While every good decision made by his advisors will be shouted about from the rooftops of the press rooms. Welcome to Germany 1933!
Barry O will do to our country what the rest of the world has been wanting to happen for a long time…… make us weaker militarily and financially broke. More entitlements for deadbeats and more gov’t in every aspect of our lives. Change is a comin!!!!

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | November 24, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am

LofromMO
If you knew anything about capitalism and economics you would not need a crystal ball to know what happens when the gov’t tries to give people $$$- it kills the incentive to get an alarm clock and become productive members of society. The messiah has promised everything to his worshippers and they, along with everyone else, will be sadly disappointed.

Posted by: dave | November 24, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Great. More money to a corporation that engaged in horrible business practices. More money to rescue a bunch of people that had no plans for dealing with their ARMs rate rising. What did they expect it to do? How about sending that money to the companies and individuals that did it correctly and didn’t damage the economy? That same cash infusion would be there only we’d be rewarding those that did it right rather than those who got greedy and foolish.

Posted by: robert hager | November 24, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am

I agree with CRAIG 100%.
Nobama is sour grapes. President Obama is trying to do something which is much more than can be said of this idiot we have in office. President Bush and his cronies should have been IMPEACHED a long time ago. HE WAS IN CHARGE…HE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON? I don’t want to hear excuses from bloggers like Nobama that the Democrats were at fault. This idiot had a REPUBLICAN congress for over 6 years…..
You really think anyone can undo the horrible damage Bush, et al. did in eight years overnight?
God bless President Obama. He is at least doing something!!!!!

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Barb,
please tell me why the “idiot” in office (who got higher grades then Kerry and the “messiah of global warming in a private jet” al gore did in college), should have been impeached??

Posted by: dave | November 24, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am

You sheepies just keep on following your master, while he and his fellow shepards fleece you. I for one will be laughing when his policies fail and you are still in the poor house.
Posted by: NOboma | Nov 24, 2008 8:37:23 AM
And what, pray tell, will you do if you’re wrong and Obama starts to slowly turn this country around? Yeah, that’s what I thought. You and others like you who can’t accept that he won will find ANY other reason or explanation for why things are going well, than to actually give him any credit.
And by the way, if his policies do leave me in the poorhouse, there’s a good chance you’ll have a room there too and you WON’T be laughing. If the worst does happen, at least you’ve given me something to smile about.
You people need to get over yourselves. If you actually think McCain would’ve had a clue on the economy, much less cared about it, your head is much farther up your ass than I thought.

Posted by: nancy miller | November 24, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am

How can anybody criticize Obama for anything at this point? He hasn’t even taken office and already has a plan, is holding press conferences to reassure everyone, has put together his cabinet team. This man is amazing.
I feel that those who are criticizing him have deeper psychological issues. It’s always easier to project our own shortcomings onto others, blaming those around us for things for which we are ultimately responsible.
I don’t think Obama goes far enough in some respects. Everyone deserves quality healthcare and should not have to pay a dime for it. It’s a basic human right. When you’re in England, and you need to see a doctor, you just walk in and get the help you need. Nobody asks you for your health plan card, nobody asks for money. We are the greatest power on earth, although that has declined tremendously over the last 8 years. We can find a way to provide quality health care to everyone without sacrificing the level of care or the technology used. Yes we can!

Posted by: Sonny | November 24, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am

So interesting that the person sitting next to Obama and Biden in the picture, is the fine governor from Michigan, Jennifer Granholm. I think it’s pretty alarming that she is advising Obama, when she has ruined Michigan’s economy. The economy in Michigan has been in terrible shape for the last several years, and she has played a large part putting it there. I’m quite concerned that Obama would be listening to her.

Posted by: wantsrealchange | November 24, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Now we can see America’s enemies the ones within! Mine are the kind who have been waiting long years! Your hissing voice and poisoned words is what I hunt. You are curled and backed in. I am ready to Pounce!!!

Posted by: winston | November 24, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

nancy miller
when will kool-aid drinkers like you realize that bush had NOTHING to with the financial crisis we are facing. The entire democratic party has transformed from the days of “ask not what your country can do for you………..” into barry’s “spread the wealth around”.
The real robin hoods who have screwed this country up have been
jimmy carter (community reinvestment act)
barney frank
chris dodd
chuck schumer
These people have wiped away lending standards to mortgage companies and even threatened legal action to anyone who discriminated against the “poor” forcing them to make bad loans.
Oh, and the dems would rather pay al gore $300,000 a speech to have him lecture us about keeping our thermostats off after he just flew in on his private jet having just gotten off his private yacht, then keep $500,000,000,000.00 a year here in our borders by drilling here!!

Posted by: dave | November 24, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am

YEAH! CHANGE!
Celebrate good Obama, come on! It’s Obama-bama!

Posted by: Randy Marsh | November 24, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Moving fast when you have competent leadership is good. Moving fast when you’re as clueless about the US economy as Obama is isn’t.

Posted by: howwouldiknow | November 24, 2008, 10:01 am 10:01 am

NObama,
To wish the failure of an administration is to wish the failure of OUR country. Many hard core right wing republicans have made it clear “Party first Country last”. This is our country we are talking about, and if Obama fails there is a real chance this country will fail and I for one do not want to see that happen.
People on both sides need to wake up and start putting their country before the party. We need to work together and DEMAND that Washington works together and let them know we will not stand for this party line politics any longer, we want results and we want a long future for this country. Failure is not an option.
Let go of the hatred, and accept that your guy lost and give the new guy a chance before saying anything.
The fear and hate have to stop, we all could be out of work in a year unless we work together on our problems.

Posted by: DCC | November 24, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

sonny
Have you ever been to london and needed a doctor? i have. they are no where to be found. You wait 8-10 hrs to see a nurse who has no idea what she is doing while the rich use the private healthcare where all the good doctors are.
Also, when you are rich in EU, Asia ect you come HERE for medical treatment. Despite what the ultimate traitor michael moore tells you, we have the best healthcare system in the world.

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | November 24, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am

And the socialism begins. Final chapter

Posted by: Patriot4freedomagainstsocialism | November 24, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Great! that’s a good way of fixing everything, right? I mean, just keep dumping more money into the fire, and let future generations get the bill.
the problem is fixable — don’t do anything at all, let the economy collapse until the capitalists (those with billions) move in to fix things with now money, not future money.
If you are in debt, then, you take care of the debt, now! You do not pile debt upon debt to fix the problems. You have to take care of the problem now to save future generations from higher taxes to cover interests on those loans or to save them from hyperinflation.
Obama’s cure for this ailing economy is based on passing on the debt to future generations of Americans without the realization that America is experiencing an economic transformation. this transformation includes the numbers of men and women retiring in the next several years, the high dropout rates among our youths, the loss of manufacturing jobs in this country, and the lack of heavy investment in newer technologies. In all, this country is headed to the brink of destruction if the president and his staff do not wise up to the real problems afflicting America.
In all, for years to come, our states and our federal government will be plagued by entitlement costs, and very little is being done to forward us into the future at an accelerated rate. We even have the technology to save our atmosphere from CO2, but the government is not funding it like it should.
I don’t know, but this fix that Obama is proposing is only for the short term and not the long term.

Posted by: lavampire | November 24, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am

I don’t care what the naysayers think. This man means business.

Posted by: em | November 24, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am

We each will have to get out there and make things happen, we cannot sit back and depend on any government. Just think as we quiver and moan there are wise individuals who are making a windfall in this bad economy.. JUST GO OUT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN, GOOD LUCK.

Posted by: AEW | November 24, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

By the way, George Stephanopolous, I am sorry to say, is an idiot. He is so in love with Obama. Yes, Obama is moving quickly because he is simply using Clinton’s people and Clinton’s game plan: That’s change?
Moreover, Obama majored in political science, not economics, not mathematics, not physics. Obama loves to violate the laws of economics and physics.
Also, George has a degree (post) in theology. He was supposed to be a lawyer, but he never went to law school.
Where’s the real George (Will), when you need him?

Posted by: lavampire | November 24, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

“A goverment big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
- Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave right now and karl marx is laughing.

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | November 24, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am

You have not paid attention to history, LongT. We certainly know from the last eight years what doesn’t work, and we know that when people are put back to work the economy improves. FDR’s New Deals followed by the biggest public works program in history, WWI, is proof enough for me. Lets give the new team a chance.

Posted by: Kent | November 24, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Dave, Clinton was tried for impeachment for a silly indescretion which should have been between him and his wife. Instead Ken Start spent millions of dollars.
Bush got us into a war that we shouldn’t be in with lies about WMD when we should have been in Aftganistan.
He also stood by and watch all this mess go on and did nothing….But no impeachment there.
It’s unbelieveable to me that all the money that they spent on some silly affair which should have been personal, not that he was right, but it was personal, and when thousands are killed in a war that shouldn’t have been and our deficit is sky high nothing is done to this idiot president whose ratings are so low he is considered the worst in history!
THAT IS WHY HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED.
AND Obama hasn’t even started yet and you are knocking him!!!

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am

i think he is a good guy ,trust him please

Posted by: calvin | November 24, 2008, 10:41 am 10:41 am

liberalshateAmerica- that’s complete B.S. You also have to wait here if you go to the ER sometimes more than 24 hours. Most of the time in Europe (and Canada) one does not have to wait nearly as long as one does here to see a physician. That is a fact. BTW, have you watched the news lately? The US is the only modern society without universal healthcare. I have healthcare, but many people do not. Healthcare is a right NOT a priviledge.

Posted by: ObamaRama | November 24, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

barb
i couldn’t have said it better! bush and cheney are war criminals and when cheney was asked about his thought when it was stated that 79% of americans think iraq was a mistake, he said “SO WHAT”!!!!! IN OTHER WORDS HE TOLD AMERICA… WELL, FIGURE IT OUT WHAT HE WAS SAYING! yet, with a president like this you would think the GOP MIGHT get a clue that they are NOT the mighty, alecompassing PARTY THEY LIKE TO SEE THEMSELVES AS! after presenting this monster of a president, bush, to reek his incompetence and caos on america and now america has rejected him and his party,,,, they all play “PILE ON” on barack!

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Funny. The only people I’ve ever heard call Obama “the Messiah” are Republicans. Another thing, I’ve never seen a Republican in a foxhole.

Posted by: Volim SAD | November 24, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Actually Clinton was impeached because he lied under oath…
Also, you’re right the dems screwed everything up with entitlements out the a** and Bush definately should have done more to stop it.
As for your opinion of Iraq, you were probably part of the same band of idiots that opposed the Vietnam War. Liberal hippies love to talk about that war (because America lost) but they never seem to bring up the MILLIONS WHO WERE SLAUGHTERED AFTER AMERICA LEFT PREMATURELY.
Just like the liberal wussies of today don’t like to discuss the torture chambers, 700,000 dead kurdish bodies, or mustarg gas that we did find in iraq.
Liberals act like we took out the Iragis Abraham Lincoln, instead of the brutal tyrant that he was who was hell-bent on making the world think that he did have WMD’s.

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | November 24, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am

AND I would like to know what YOU people who are critizing President Obama would do….Do you understand what a BIG MESS he has been left? If the government doesn’t do some kind of bailout we will be in a Depression. He is trying to make jobs so people can get back to work and we can pay down this debt. Remember President Clinton was left with a huge deficit by the elder President Bush and we had a surplus when President Clinton left. This is much worse but I have faith in President Obama. If we don’t have faith and hope, what is there left? Stop complaining and try to help.

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Liberalshate America.
What a bunch of hate…and Clinton lied about nonsense which was between him and Hillary. Bush lied about WMD…and more.
It’s people like you who spread hate and lies.
God Bless President Obama…apparently there are more people on his side than not if you look at the election results!!!
Guess you are a poor looser.

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

barb, you are pleading on deaf ears! they’re man lost and they can’t accept it! barack could have the ideal paths to takes us out of the bush abyss and have the perfect plan etc etc and the rush limbaugh and george bush followers would still say it is totally wrong! funny, the GOP’ers NEVER mention that bush was handed a country running in the black with a huge surplus of money and we were in good shape… HOW LONG DID THAT LAST? A FEW MONTHS B4 BUSH GOT HIS HANDS ON IT AND destroyed what clinton had done! and yet they still slam bill clinton every chance they get… DOES EVERYONE SEE WHERE THE PROBLEM IS HERE??? maybe the GOP itself as a whole? is this why they have been BOOTED out by america??? YEEEEEEEEEES!

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Barb,
Honey, you need to seriously understand history. It is way past time to keep up this “bush lied about Iraq”
Look at clintons 1998 State Of The Union address…..
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Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation’s wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. The United Nations weapons inspectors have done a truly remarkable job, finding and destroying more of Iraq’s arsenal than was destroyed during the entire gulf war. Now, Saddam Hussein wants to stop them from completing their mission. I know I speak for everyone in this chamber, Republicans and Democrats, when I say to Saddam Hussein, “You cannot defy the will of the world,” and when I say to him, “You have used weapons of mass destruction before; we are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.
=======
Then after 5 more years of games, our intelligence at the time was telling us he did have them.
You can disagree with the idea of going there, but enough of the BS of Bush lying to do it!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

look, i am not an Obama supporter. I am willing to give the man a shot and some time (all the “experts” on tv say that it will take at least two years to pull out of this mess). But, he can’t use “it’s Bush’s fault.” That is not why he was elected – he was elected to fix this. Blaming Bush might work for the wars, but he wanted the job so now he has to produce results.

Posted by: princephillipc | November 24, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Barb
Actually, I am just a regular American who has worked hard for my $$$ and doesn’t want barry o telling me what do with it.
Maybe you should not have treated Bush “the idiot” so bad if you don’t want people calling barry o what he really is-
socialist
anti-American
anti-capitalist
racist
(you don’t take your kids to hear “goddamn America, America is the worst terrorist nation in the world, America is run by greedy white devils” and call yourself a patriot.
Instead, you say “i have never really been proud of my country….” as bitter michelle did. The obamas are the unhappiest millionaires i have ever seen!!!!

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | November 24, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Craig you are right. I give up. No matter what you say these Republicans will some up with a sorry excuse. I always look at both sides but the way the Republicans acted esp. in this campaign, calling Obama a terriorist, I will NEVER vote for a Republican or listen to anything they say, because no matter what we say they will come up with a bitter excuse.
You and I know we have a good man becoming President in 2009 and I just know with a little hope and faith our country will be a better one than it has in the past eight years.

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Mike C
it’s funny how the media has COMPLETELY ignored clinton’s speech telling the American people that saddam had WMD’s (which is why hillary voted for the war). She knew that if her husband was more worried about protecting America than having party time in the oval office saddam might have been taken out a long time ago..

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | November 24, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Mike C
it’s funny how the media has COMPLETELY ignored clinton’s speech telling the American people that saddam had WMD’s (which is why hillary voted for the war). She knew that if her husband was more worried about protecting America than having party time in the oval office saddam might have been taken out a long time ago..

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | November 24, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

AND I would like to know what YOU people who are critizing President Obama would do….Do you understand what a BIG MESS he has been left?
A. ABSOLUTELY NOT ONE MORE PENNY DISPURSED TO ANYONE UNITL THE OVERSIGHT IS IN PLACE ON THE $700B.
B. Obama & Bush should be publicly calling for Congress to stay in session until that oversight is in place!
C. NO BAILOUT for the auto makers. They need to go Chap 11 and restructure,
including completely new management.
Come out the other side with a REAL plan for moving forward.
Then if they need a true LOAN, put together a package with taceability and goals in the short term.
The ONLY BAILOUT should go DIRECTLY to those already collecting pensions. They did their job, and structured thier life based on their pension plans. If any bailout is to be done, it should go directly to them.
D. Obama should publicly state TODAY that he is NOT going to change the Capital Gains Tax rates in his first term.

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Barb,
Give me a break. If it had been McCain who had that kind of association with Bill Ayers, you and everyone who voted for Obama would have been all over him. God knows the media would never have let a single day go by without badgering McCain over it.
Obama kept trying to the use the excuse that all happened when I was eight. Very Very weak.
Like I said in the earlier post, you cling to the BS about Bush lying to start a war, but you want to ignore Obama’s association with an unrepentant terrorist.
Sorry honey, but you dont get to have it both ways!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 11:18 am 11:18 am

Hey Barb,
I am openly challenging you to PROVE Bush lied about WMD’s
No more BS rhetoric, provide PROOF !

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

liberalshateAmerica,
I always find it interesting that the media never asked Clinton what he thought about the intel at the time.
Liberal ALWAYS want to ride the idea that “Bush Lied about WMD’s”, all the time IGNORING their own “leader’s” prophecy about Iraq in that speech!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Mike_C
The reason why most people who voted for barry o don’t care about rev wright or bill ayers is because they agree with both of those nuts on a lot of things.
They argue Bill ayers was just combating a horrible war(even though millions were slaughtered in vietnam as a result of America’s retreat)
and rev wright was just speaking the truth about greedy white folk in the US off KKK A (even though he nows live in a 10,000 sq ft, $2,000,000.00 mansion surrounded by greedy white folk)

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | November 24, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Mike C sweetie, Obama was at a party which Ayers attended along with REPUBLICAN big wigs.
I’m just glad the majority of the people don’t agree with you as you can see by the election results.
Go eat your sour grapes.

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am

THERE WERE NO WMD….therefore he lied.

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Barb,
I hope you never do anything you have to go to court for…LOL
So obviously you have ZERO PROOF, you were not there for the security briefings. Strange, but for years many people were worried about this. So obviously, Bill Clinton LIED in his State of the Union address.
To carry your Warped Logic to the appropriate levels moving forward, When Obama says something & its wrong, THEN HE LIED!!!! —- RIGHT?????

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am

“What’s the difference?”
~ George W. Bush, 2003-12-16 in an interview with Diane Sawyer, excusing his lie that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, by claiming that there was no difference between having weapons and wanting to have them.

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

“Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons.”
~ George W. Bush, Cincinnati, Ohio, 2002-10-07. These tubes turned out to be nothing more threatening than the tubing used to construct playground equipment.

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am

“We’ve also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We’re concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States.”
~ George W. Bush, Cincinnati, Ohio, 2002-10-07, on Iraq’s non-existent drones capable of launching an attack on the USA.

Posted by: craiger | November 24, 2008, 11:51 am 11:51 am

“We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. You remember when Colin Powell stood up in front of the world, and he said, Iraq has got laboratories, mobile labs to build biological weapons. They’re illegal. They’re against the United Nations resolutions, and we’ve so far discovered two. And we’ll find more weapons as time goes on. But for those who say we haven’t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they’re wrong, we found them.”
~ George W. Bush, 2005-05-23, Interview of the President by TVP, Poland. If he found them, what happened to them?

Posted by: craiger | November 24, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Thanks Craig…that was great!
Also where is the proof that Obama was a terriorist? Like to see Mike C. proove that! And the FBI investigates fully all senators, etc.

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am

“The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”
~ George W. Bush, State of the Union Address, 2003-01-28. The documents supporting this turned were crudely forged.

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Hey, y’all… the election is over. Obama won by a considerable margin, and that’s that. We all had our say on November 4th. Now it’s time to pull our stuff together and climb out of this hole we’ve dug for ourselves. We can do it, but we’re going to have to do it together.

Posted by: Kent | November 24, 2008, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Senator Sam Levin released formerly classified documents that undercut top Bush pre-Iraq war claims of a link between Saddam Hussein’s regime and the al-Qaeda terrorist network.
“These documents are additional compelling evidence that the intelligence community did not believe there was a cooperative relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda, despite public comments by the highest ranking officials in our government to the contrary.”
~ Carl Levin, Senator, 2005-04-16

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

OK BARB… i gave a little bit to back you up! NOW WATCH…i could go on as i have loads of proof that bush lied but, the rush limbaugh and george bush butt kissers will scream bloody murder! they WILL NEVER accept barack and will dog him forever no matter what he does! It is now about US and THEM anymore to us but to GOP hardcores it is!!! that is why they are in the back seat like redheaded step children!

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

heres is what will make you sick and should shut GOP’rs up quickly but never does….
rumsfeld and Wolfowitz had already decided to invade Iraq long before they claimed to have evidence of the WMDs.
“I expected to go back to a round of meetings [on 2001-09-12], examining what the next attacks could be, what our vulnerabilities were, what we could do about them in the short term. Instead, I walked into a series of discussions about Iraq. At first I was incredulous that we were talking about something other than getting al Qaeda. Then I realised with an almost sharp physical pain that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were trying to take advantage of this national tragedy to promote their agenda about Iraq. Since the beginning of the administration, indeed well before, they had been pressing for a war with Iraq. My friends in the Pentagon had been telling me that the word was we would be invading Iraq sometimes in 2002.”
~ Richard A. Clarke, White House Counter Terrorism Chief, Against All Enemies
CIA analysts who didn’t agree that Iraq posed a threat were removed or reprimanded.
Bush said, “We’ve wanted so many wars, and we didn’t get them. And we’ve wanted this one for years.”
Bush kept changing his supposed justification for the war.
One of the neocons confessed that they kicked around various justifications for the war and picked the one they thought would “sell” best

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

“All this was inspired by the principle — which is quite true in itself — that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”
~ Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

Super Craig!!!! But like you said these Republicans just will never get it or don’t want to!
And Kent is right…everyone has to band together behind Obama and make this country great again….The election is over and if anyone doesn’t want to stand behind Obama then they can continue to eat their sour grapes.
Me, I think he’s going to be a great President!
Thanks again Craig!!! Good work and research!

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

barb… i got behind barack when, after delivering that famous speech at the dem nat conv, barack heard a man in the audience as he was walking from the stage… the guy yelled out “GIVE EM HELL OBAMA”.. BARACK STOPPED SHORT AND LOOKED RIGHT AT THE GUY and said “i don’t have to give em hell, all i need to do is tell the truth” SOLD ME! HAVEN’T HAD the truth told to us by a politition since politics were started! and after reviewing some of the lies of bush i cannot believe that there are people that actually believe that bush told the truth 100% UNREAL! thats why i threw in the para from mein kaumpf!
and mclam stated “MAKE IT 100 YEARS” when asked what he thought about bush wanting troops in iraq for 50 years! OMG! AND THESE PeOPLE ARE IN CHARGE???? NOT ANY MORE!!!! listen closely tho barb… that wailing and crying and screeming is the GOP as we say nice things about barack lol!!! they seem to be so thickheaded and selfrighteous that they do not learn from they’re mistakes! We MUST ALL get behind barack, like him or not, and all of us pull together… he is only one person, we are ALL americans… can you GOP guys for ONCE drop the hardcore crap and actually TRy to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem!! partisanship is killing america!

Posted by: craiger | November 24, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

God Bless you Craig…someone with common sense. You know that is what is missing and also common decency. If people would all band together we would have as RFK my hero said, A Newer World…and a better one! We come in all sizes, colors, shapes, sexes and religions. We need to respect each other and sit down and really listen. I believe in Obama…he really cares…kind of like Bobby!

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Also where is the proof that Obama was a terriorist?
Barb,
My dear bubble-brained little liberal…I never said he WAS a terrorist…I said the associated with a terrorist!
Last time I looked when a us citizen bombs our own country, we call him a DOmectic Terrorist!
In his 2001 memoir, “Fugitive Days,” Ayers writes of the time he took part in bombing the Pentagon. “Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon. The sky was blue; the birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.”
Yeah…he just an activist…right!!!!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

Mike C you are so wrong and YOU are the bubble head! No need to resort to name calling but then that is what Republicans do.
Plenty of your friends called him a terriorist and if he associated with Ayers so did all those high end Republicans who were at the same party!
Give it up.
I’m getting off this blog now but I hope you will stand behind OUR President and let him do the job of fixing all the mess left by your President Bush.

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

lol…so how were these republicans who were attending a fund rasier for a Chicago Democrat ?….LOL

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

Craig,
Nice titbits…but here is what I find so interesting.
You liberals want to believe that Bush concocted this elaborate scheme to start a war, fooled the ENTIRE WORLD with it, but was just a clumsy dope on every other single issue for 8 years ?
LOL…I think you need another hit from Michael Moore’s Medecine cabinet!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

funny how michael moore scares the hell outta republicans! LOL
Maybe cuz he might have some sense yet you gop fools look at the fatass drug addicted rush limbaugh as your mouthpiece! AND WHO LOST ALL THE MARBLES?? the democratic party could solve the worlds problems and we would have peace and prsperity around the globe because of a democrat and republicans would still dog him and/or take the credit! You don’t seem to understand why your party has been ousted!!! hardheads! THATS WHY! always want control at any cost! now, do you REALLY TRULY BELIEVE that mclame and failin palin would be the best to run things after this fiasco called the bush administration??? hell, mcsame voted 90% of the time right in line with the man who drove the bus into the d ditch! (i LOVE that paraphrase barack used… so efective and so very true)
you would rather have put in a hothead and an idiot just because they wear the brand “republican” instead of a competent leader like barack! the man is a harvard law graduate for crissakes! it isn’t like he is an incompetent boob… LIKE BUSH!

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Thanks George! Really appreciate your reporting!

Posted by: cynthia k | November 24, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

HELL, lets forget about iraq for a moment… KATRINA! and do you think this national disastor was run with competence and intelligence by the bush administration? if you say yes then i give up as there is no way of gettin thru! IT WAS A NATIONAL DISGRACE AND handled with so much incompetence it was grounds for impeachment! LET AMERICA
DOWN BIGTIME ND SHOWED THE LEVEL OF CONCERN FOR AMERICANS WHO PAY THEY’RE SALRIES! of course, being a republican you will have to say it was some democrats fault! “YOUR DOIN A HELLUVA JOB BROWNIE”! LOL YEA RIGHT… THE SOONER BUSH STEPS FOOT OUT AND BARACK TAKES OVER THE BETTER!

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

BTW… you called barb a bubblehead… NIIIICE! shows your mentality yet, you asked her about the republicans attending a fundraiser for a democrat. what she was refering to was that ayers and obama served on a SCHOOL committee together along with many other democrats AND republicans AND people from the dept of justice AND MANY OTHER GOV OFFICIALS dems and repugs alike…. SO THAT MEANS (according to YOUR bubblehead palin) THAT THEY ALLLLL ARE PALIN AROUND WITH TERRORISTS! your failed party really should give up on the karl rove attack tactics! fool me once shame on you… fool me twice….
NOPE! DIDN’T !

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Got back on for a minute and boy you are GOOD Craig! Me thinks these Republicans really don’t know what they are talking about and they all say the same thing as if it will be true if they keep repeating themselves!
thank God people were fed up this time and really listened to the candidates and saw Obama for what he is, a real human being who wants to do right by our country!!!

Posted by: Barb | November 24, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

you would rather have put in a hothead and an idiot just because they wear the brand “republican” instead of a competent leader like barack! the man is a harvard law graduate for crissakes!
——————————-
LOL…a leader…at what time in his life….I give him immense credit for burying Hillary & mcCain in the election.
But a leader, We wil have to wait to see about that.
Right now, if anyone is “branded”,..its Obama…He is becoming th eultimate Rebrand…”Clinton”

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Craig,
Try hard to follow this now, What Republicans or other people had fundraisers at Ayer’s home?
That was the only question I put forth. If you cant answer it…i do understand…

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

it is the same old thing that got us here in the first place… they want they’re guy runnin the big show… they don’t get what they want so they spit on the whole barrel of apples! btw barb, i did not like you being called a bubblehead for speaking your views… GOOD EXAMPLE of how most repugs are! they don’t like what you say so they brand you a “bubblehead” …. seems that you spoke a lot of truth yourself and they cannot accept it! i butt heads with narrowminded republicans daily so i am more used to listening to nonsense and excuses and slandering of anybody who “doesn’t fit they’re mold” seems to me that they’re mold SUCKS! WE are on the brink of disastor and they want to play games of slander and lie, smoke and mirrors! if we (repugs and dems and indep) don’t start some sort of dialogue of working asa team this country could be taken away from us… china half OWNS this country now… (bush bein a big part in this also) we have to get serious NOW! and NO, palin/mcsame was NOT right for the job… face it!

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

of course, being a republican you will have to say it was some democrats fault!
See Craig, as usual your wrong again!!
wow, for someone whose guy won, your harboring a lot of hostility….
Katrina was a national embarrasment and EVERY LEVEL for BOTH PARTIES!
Only someone like you would be here blameing one man.
Let me ask you, when Obama has his mistakes, which he will, should we judge him as you have judged Bush?
Where is your outrage at Barney Frank & Chris Dodd for their part of this economic mess?
Where is your outrage at Nancy Pelosi & Harry reid for going weeks now without putting oversight in place!
Why not get all over Pelosi for dismissing Congress on Labor Day instead of working on a bi-partisan energy bill? Reme be rthat…Gas at over $4/Gallon? She didnt give a crap about the people then!
Where is your outrage at these people ?

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

jeezus…. your laughable candidates went from one end of this country to the other saying barack “palls around with terrorists”… PERIOD! from what i understand that there indeed WAS aparty along with many many other parties that barack attended that same night and ayers was just one of them, ooooffff course your “bulldog” lol or whatever that was you guys threw in there to reek havoc, made this out to be like barack and michelle had an intimate dinner with a guy they KNEW was a terrorist and plotted to get barack elected so he could blow the place up… RIDICULOUS! gop keeny liked using the word “terrorist” to associate barack with the 911 terrorists… karl rove at it again! barack is an honorable, intelligent man and you will find that he will take us to a way better place than we have been in… which is iraq, financial ruin, hated round the world, must i go on?

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

LOL…as usual…a liberal puffing his chest for no reason. The question was not that hard. See the killer here to all this with you guys, is you KNOW you would hae taken the exact same story and gone so far overboard with it that you would have been in a different ocean.
We know that from the BS that went on & on & on after the 2000 election.
Now enough of this ….I am really interested in where all your outrage is when it comes to Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Harry reid & Nancy Pelosi !

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

when bush was notified that a hurricane was heading to new orleans he went about “business as usual”…. when you are the president, to coin a well known phrase “THE BUCK STOPS HERE” HE WAS RESPONSIBLE! HIS own MOTHER, BARABARA BUSH STATED ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THE SUPER DOME “MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE LIVING BETTER THERE THAN AT HOME ANYWAYS” (there were assaults, rapes, murders etc going on in there)
btw, i am not hostile until i hear moronic attacks on a man that will probably go down in history as a great president.. UNFOUNDED attacks…. slander… B.S.! AFTER havin bush for 8 years i think ya’ll should be happy and not judge unless he really did a terrible job (which ain’t gonna happen)
but, to quote barack “republicans always like to throw rocks and then look around like “who threw that” “

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

i am not hostile until i hear moronic attacks on a man that will probably go down in history as a great president..
LOL…LOL..wow…you have the Powerball #’s too ????
Right now, Most of us just pray he is not going to be this centuries Herbert Hoover!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

change subject cuz you are losin the other one LOLlol
were we talking ANYTHING about nancy pelosi??? hhmmmmmmmm here comes the smoke and mirrors i was referring to! lol lol
rove taught you well!

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Craig,
At some point, even you have to face the fact that Democrats are just as responsible for this mess as republicans. Since they are the ones who will control the complete congressional agenda for at least the next 2 yrs, maybe you ought to pay just a little attention to what they are doing now.
I am still waiting for your response on Frank, Dodd, Reid & Pelosi !

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Craig,
Guess what Obama does not control the Money….Congress does!
If you want to wallow, so be it…I am trying to take the discussion to how we move forward. I am not one who is convinced that Obama is going to wave his hand and part the economic waters here.
Reid & Pelosi have a lot more to say about this than Obama. Obama can set the policy, but Congress enacts it. And Congress always seems to have a way of warping what ever comes its way.

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Mike C,
I am not a Bush fan. However, I am with you on the Pelosi, Reid and Frank deal. The are the Hitler tripletts as they govern as power hungry, ruthless, self-serving dictators. They have added their cargo to the sinking ship yet try to appear to be concerned about the people AFTER THE FACT.

Posted by: NumbCitizen | November 24, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

The bottom line is their is enough blame to go around BUT blame is not going to help the average American citizen. WE need to look forward and work on solutions.

Posted by: NumbCitizen | November 24, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

hhmmmmmmm you had plenty to say to barb on this subject….
throw rocks and look around saying “who threw that rock” !!! LOL
in other words, you fanned the flames and slammed barack, EVEN B4 HE TAKES POWER, AND when someone rebutes you and you run out of ideas like your party, you all of a sudden accuse another of “wallowing” (whos wallowing? we won by a landslide) and want to talk about moving forward! i would like to talk about moving forward with you…. STOP SLAMMING BARACK B4 HE EVEN GETS A CHANCE TO PROVE HIMSELF THEN! if you want to uncharacteristically want to join us, even tho your man is not runnin the show, i think that is what this country needs badly…. but to slam a man b4 he even starts then say “i wanna talk about moving forward” is chicken%$#$

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

NumbCitizen,
Beleive me, I am all for looking forward, but only a complete fool refuses to look back and discover exactly how we got here and exactly what mistakes were made.
Otherwise, how can anyone really have confidence that any new moves are the right ones?
So many of the liberals here just want to play the Blame Bush game. Then when they get confronted with their own tatcis and get mired down in useless dribble, they whine & complain.
It is obvious that there is blame 7 responsibility on both sides of the aisle on this one. And it IS important to realize this goes back beyond Bush’s 8 years.
since Obama is now recruiting many of the old Clinton team, It is even MORE important to be honest as a country about who is responsible for what actions and the reprecussions of those actions.
Now as an example, Larry Summers, who was Treasury secretary in President Clinton’s regime, will head Obama’s National Economic Council.
In 1999, Summers was one of the key proponents of the BANKING DERRGULATION that led to the rise of ‘mega-banks’ and the current financial crisis. At the time, Senators like Byron Dorgan and policy advocates like Public Campaign were warning the financial deregulation, but Summers did not listen.
Summers also has the whole comewmtn about women which got him fired as President of havard, AND this interesting Memo from the early 1990′s….
http://www.whirledbank.org/ourwords/summers.html

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Craig,
I am conservative but I will give Obama credit as it appears that he is at least going to put up a FIGHT. I am disappointed that Bush has given up and passed the reins to Paulson, who clearly is LOST.

Posted by: NumbCitizen | November 24, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Craig,
I will indeed criticize, if i feel his choices are incorrect or suspect! This is the entire issue we warned people about. He has no experience at forming a government. You liberals demonized Palin, but the FACT is she had already done what Obama is doing now. Yuo dont have to like it, but it is a very simple FACT!
I am not one bit surprised at his choices, but I have asked this question repeatedly. In all these critical areas, the Democratic party has not yet raised up a new face? You got Obama, yet where is the rest of the upcoming talent?
This is like a baseball team with a farm system devoid of quality players.
You can keep throwing the same old lineup on the field, with a NEW manager, but its still the same team!
These people are not all of a sudden going to become version 2.0 of themselves.
Take Summers, He was a big proponent of Deregulation under Clinton. Does he now admit that was not a good idea? What direction will he advise Obama to move in now?
This is not SLAMMING…these are very important questions that all Americans deserve an answer to.

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Mike C,
Again you are right they are a lot of people that contributed to this crisis. Unfortunately, it was on Bush’s watch that everything collapsed. I would not care if Captain Kangaroo was president as no ONE man can bring a nation out of such a mess. My only question is WHAT NOW??? as none of us can LIVE BACKWARDS. We have to figure out the source(s) of failure(s) so not to repeat them. TRUE!!!!

Posted by: NumbCitizen | November 24, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm

I again come back to Pelosi & Reid. Why is there no outrage at their extreme lack of leadership and perfromance of thier duty when it comes to oversight?
Oh, on the auto bailout, the idea that they just gave an entire industry less than 2 weeks to create a proposal than will give them access to 25 or more billion dollars is disgraceful.
I have worked on government jobs in my lifetime, an the proposal cycle takes months for system that are in the 10′s of miliions of dollars.
There is no way on earth in 2 weeks or less, that a real plan can be created that truely answers the big questions for auto makers.
Im not completely positive, but I think at this point Reai & Pelosi want this plan to include a way for the auto industry to keep its current labor contracts intact. If that is true, this entrie exercise is a complete farse!
I have not heard a single person who beleive they can make this work with the current labor agreement in place.
So again, I ask where is the very fair criticism of the lack of real leadership from Reid\Pelosi?

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm

Craig,
Wake up, its time to talk about the real world now

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Beleive me, I am all for looking forward, but only a complete fool refuses to look back and discover exactly how we got here and exactly what mistakes were made.
Otherwise, how can anyone really have confidence that any new moves are the right ones?
OK, to use your words… looking back to analize mistakes so we don’t repeat them…. look back on the bush admin…. if we do just the opposite of that then we will all come out smellin like roses!

Posted by: craiger | November 24, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

heres a good one… HOW ABOUT STOP FIGHTING DEMOCRATS AND WORK WITH THEM? NEVER HAPPEN…
i have already heard republican senators that say they will go against and fight barack no matter what he puts out there… SOLELY BECAUSE MCLAME DIDN’T GET IN THERE! NOW THATS WORKIN TOGETHER HUH???? throwin rocks agin aren’t you?

Posted by: craig | November 24, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

craiger,
See, this is why you fools are useless in a real discussion. DUh…Blame it all on Duh Bush..Duh…
wel….to use your own logic, lets toss out Barney frank & Chris Dodd as well as Harry reid & Nancy Pelosi….They have just a big a blame to shoulder!
Better yet, lets just forget everything that has ever happened before 1/20/2009 !
Im sure the messiah can raise his hands off that bible and just make it all go away……
so much for real dialogue

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

HOW ABOUT STOP FIGHTING DEMOCRATS AND WORK WITH THEM? NEVER HAPPEN
craig,
I see it is time for yet another lesson in reality!
http://rpc.senate.gov/public/_files/052008Cloture110thCongressCMJ.pdf

Posted by: Mike_C | November 24, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

PT wrote :
All I can say is “How Refreshing”, it’s like oping the window for the first time on a Spring day.
Hey PT you’re going to be opening up your wallet and pay higher taxes.

Posted by: Mac | November 24, 2008, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

Mike_C:
I see it is time for yet another lesson in reality!
http://rpc.senate.gov/public/_files/052008Cloture110thCongressCMJ.pdf
====
Why, if somebody posted something on the internets, it *must* be true! Especially if I already agree with everything they say!!
Awesome! :D

Posted by: AMP | November 25, 2008, 4:23 am 4:23 am

Mac:
Hey PT you’re going to be opening up your wallet and pay higher taxes.
====
Yeah! That talking point *never* gets old.
Oh, wait, it just did.

Posted by: AMP | November 25, 2008, 4:29 am 4:29 am

Mike_C:
I see it is time for yet another lesson in reality!
http://rpc.senate.gov/public/_files/052008Cloture110thCongressCMJ.pdf
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Why, if somebody posted something on the internets, it *must* be true! Especially if I already agree with everything they say!!
Awesome! :D
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HEY AMP,
Instead of acting like a complete trool, try reading it you moron!
It is not “somebody” posting on the net…its from the Senate you goof!

Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

This team was easy to pick, all he took was President Clinton deputies and the Bush administration national security staff.Obama burst alot of bubbles with his picks especially Hillary Clinton and Defense Secretary Gates.

Posted by: Jesus Warrior | November 26, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

I have alot of respect for a new President. We should give him alot of love, prayers, suport ,he inherted alot of problems from Bushes Administration. It’s our job as citizen and chistains to pray for our new President,that God give him wisdom to rule,and compassion for the people.I’m sick of evil minded complainers who have nothing beter to do. Maybe if these complainers would volunteer and do good they would have some joy in their life.

Posted by: Suzann Maria | November 27, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm

Barry Obama does not have America’s best interest at heart. Everything that guy does/says between now and when he gets booted out of office should be watched carefully.
Does barry want to see the rev wright vision of America? It’s pretty hard to stay in a racist, anti-American, anti-capitalist church for 20 years, have the pastor baptize your children, marry you, write a book titled after one of the pastor’s speeches, refer to pastor as your mentor, and not share the pastor’s views.

Posted by: dave | November 28, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am

So, Barry does not want to continue with the 2001 tax cuts but he has a stimulous package. I guess one way of paraphrasing is to say that BO does not trust the public to spend their money and he had better do it for us. The 2001 tax cut gave Tanave “the Machinist”, making 40k, a $1300 tax cut. Bye bye tax cut, bye bye cable tv, bye bye vacation.

Posted by: tanave | November 29, 2008, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm

George,
You suggested Obama should get the credit for the 1,000 point surge in the Dow last week. Then I think it’s fair that he get the blame for the Dow’s 680 point drop today, right?

Posted by: George | December 1, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

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