Obama Says He Is Against Same-Sex Marriage But Also Against Ending Its Practice In Calif.

I used to support Sen. Obama, but you have to pay attention to what he says. He says, “I’ll consider offshore drilling” and “I’ll consider nuclear power,” but the truth is, he already has, and he won’t. Sen. McCain will tell you where he stands, because he rather lose an election than deceive the American people. Sen. Obama says he’ll go through government with a scalpal, and cut out wasteful spending. He ridicules Sen. McCain for taking what he calls a “hatchet” to our wasteful spending problem. The truth is, Sen. Obama won’t find a special-interest thing he’d like to trim, and he won’t find a pork he thinks should be cut. Senator McCain will cut all of them, because the truth is, our government is spending too much. If Senator Obama truly opposes something, he wouldn’t put a “but” in it. He has personally dismissed small-town American values as “bitterness” and “clinging” to their second-amendment civil right, and their first-amendment civil right of faith. His running mate has personally dismissed tax-opposition as “unpatriotic,” and Sen. Obama has personally called people who oppose tax-hikes as “selfish.” Indeed, if Sen. Obama truly was against something, he would leave no room for the opposing opinion to debate as equals in terms of love for our country.

Hey Obamacrat, “gag” Obama hasn’t based his campaign on name calling and lies.
Maybe if he started calling McCain, un-American, a traitor (he did rollover in one day in Vietnam), Godless and a despicable liar then he would be on an even par with McCain, but he took the higher road and hasn’t done that. McCain on the other hand has embraced the despicable.

BO talks out of both sides of his mouth!

One thing about Democrats, they will always find a way to take credit for a position no matter whether it’s right or wrong as long as it will get them more votes. Integity?…..not a chance.

Peace… Matthew 5:9
Posted by: dassis | Nov 2, 2008 6:56:17 PM
I have to defend the Obamacrat. He never quoted scripture against the Democratic ticket. Sen. Obama, however, insists that he has “a righteous wind behind our backs.” I don’t support Sen. Obama, but come on, I’m not “un-righteous.” And Sen. Obama’s spiritual advisor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, said, “God d*mn America, it’s in the Bible, God d*mn America.” We should keep our political discourse civil. I respect Sen. Obama’s antipathy towards guns and religion. If it were the other way around, I would not have explained it the way he did: “they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” I respect Sen. Biden’s desire to tax-and-spend. I believe that he thinks that’s the best route for our country when he says he thinks that’s the best route for our country. I wouldn’t call it a “patriotic” thing to do, as he did, and accuse everyone who, like myself, think tax-and-spend is wrong, I wouldn’t accuse us of being “unpatriotic.” And I respect Sen. Obama’s belief that socialism and a welfare society is what is best for America. I don’t call his supporters, who stand to gain a windfall from his welfare proposals, I don’t accuse them of being “selfish.” I think they’re great Americans with a different point of view. He said I was “making a virtue out of selfishness” just because I think capitalism is superior to socialism. We need to do away with these divisive and dismissive political tactics that the Obama campaign has engaged in, and above all things, we need to quit acting like Cousin Hussein and quote scripture against our political counterparts.

Obama…

What the hell does he means? He is not in favor of gay marriage, but as long as it in California he is all for it? It makes no sense.
Does Obama even know how to take a stand on something? Anything?

As a democrat who actually falls to the left of Obama on this issue, I find his position on gay marriage to be confusing. I suspect that he supports gay marriage but can never say so outright, as that would endanger his ability to get elected.
That having been said, Barack Obama is a law professor and a constitutional scholar. Combined with the fact that he’s also African-American, you would think that he would be extra-sensitive to the concept “separate but equal”. It was a phrase used to justify the discrimnatory segregation of schools in the US, and was eventually found to be unconstitutional. The act of separating whites from blacks was inherently not equal. The same could be said about the gay marriage issue in California. Telling gay people that they can have “civil unions” that are separate but equal to what “normal” people have is a very dangerous idea.
Though I’m disappointed that Obama (and all of the democratic national candidates) do not have the courage to be more progressive on this issue and stand up for gay marriage nationally, I will proudly support Obama on election day.

In a campaign that Obama said was about “judgement”, let’s look at the judgement of Obama. Wright, Ayers, Rezco, Acorn, Farrakhan, etc. Any other candidate with an association of people like these would have never come out of the primaries. I know these “friends” don’t matter to those voting for Obama but then again “stupid is as stupid does” right Forrest!

How is Obama’s grandmother? He went to see her in Hawaii because he said that she may die before he is elected US President. The election is tomorrow, but I haven’t heard a word about her health.
I hope she had a great recovery and is doing well, and that Obama’s trip to Hawaii in the middle of his busy election campaign was unnecessary.

There is SNL skit on the weekend new portion… called ‘REALLY’
that is when someone says something so incredible that you can’t believe and you have to say to yourself REALLY..
Okay OBamacrat..when you say you “used to support Sen. Obama”
REALLY…

That’s not a nuanced position. That’s a twisted deception. Only a lawyer could say that out loud and keep a straight face. That’s what lawyers do — say twisted deceptions with a straight face.
Doesn’t that remind everybody of that Clinto (“I didn’t have sex with that woman… it depends on what the meaning of the word is, is”)?
Biden is another lawyer too. That alone is a good enough reason for people not to vote for Obama — two lawyers heading the country. Can you imagine all the deceptive, twisted double talk that would come from that?

JR, stop drinking the socialist cool aid and think for yourself. You sound like you should be a part of the Huffington Post. How pathetic….

Obama just cannot make up his mind about anything.

Matthew 5:9, you’re a typical ObamaFascist. Anytime anyone says something you don’t like, you accuse them of lying. You’re just like your Dear Leader. So go vote for him.

Posted by: Mike Oliver | Nov 2, 2008 7:14:54 PM
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Per what was reported Michelle Obama when asked on Wednesday or Thursday – sorry I do not remember exactly – said, that the “grandmother is just fine”.
Next news I read was the dismissal of the Berg’s lawsuit by a Hawaiian judge. I cannot help but wonder if there is any connection to Obama’s trip to Hawaii.
Mainly if I take into consideration that Obama when vacationing on Hawaii after the primaries visited with grandma for one afternoon alone, I mind you, no wife or children went with him.
All three other contestants in this race presented their extended families; not Obama; allegedly he knew nothing about his auntie in Boston, although she came for his inauguration in 2004…
Here are my earlier thoughts on the subject:
Here is what I do not understand – maybe someone out there can offer some help:
Every single legal immigrant that came to US in the last 30-35 years is painfully aware of illegal immigrants from the same country he/she came from. Each one of us knows a number of them and the word about them gets around much faster one would imagine. How it is that Obama knew nothing, given his in not so distant past contact with Auntie?
99% of us, legal emigrants, when we had a visitor, be it family member or friend, made darn sure that the visitor boarded the plane to return back home. Are we to believe that Auntie came for inaugural and than went on her own to throttle the country? By the way is it not common courtesy to take care of an elderly relative?
How easy/difficult is it to get a unit in public housing? In Boston? What kind of documents is needed to request one?
Why nobody got on the case of Obama’s campaign about the “small contribution” and credit card security check avoidance? How was auntie on public, our tax money, able to send donations to Obama? To the same nephew whose 2007 adjusted gross earnings were $4,139,965.00?
Some nephew, I have to say.

Such bitterness has enveloped the GOP and their conservative poodles.
Losing in a landslide will do that to you.
Get used to 20-years out of power.

Hmm….”no one went to Hawaii with Mr. Obama”
Whoever posted that is a whack job.
Mr. Obama is accompanied by 230-secret service agents, who by law, cannot leave his side.
Oh how trite these conservatives have become.

Brian W
I think you’re referring to me, certainly you don’t intend to take one of the beatitudes to task!
It has nothing to do with what I like or don’t like — though I am a total lover of the truth — I will call a lie a lie whenever I perceive it to be so.
Remember — intentional falsehoods, half truths, mis-quotes and distortions all DO qualify as lies.
I can’t vote for my Dear Leader — He’s not running.

I think both men truly want to serve. From what I gather, they would both be an improvement in what we have. Our challenges are huge. I noted in JR’s post that he may be a Christian as he referred to Matthew 5:9 — but I believe both men will work for peace. I find myself confused by the democratic party because it seems so egocentric at times. It seems like the farther we get away from God, the more lost we become, and the more at risk our nation becomes. Support peace. Support life. Love our neighbors as ourselves (if we all tithed 10%, imagine how much that could help people). Just a few thoughts…

That we are about to elect Obama tells so much about how little we actually stand for today. God help us.

God, this guy is SUCH a CREEP and a PHONY!!! What a PATHETIC dolt this guy is to think that the American people are this stupid… I SOOOOOO hope he gets his tail kicked on Nov. 4th!!!

Mike Byrd, I have had the same thoughts, he is close to fitting the bill of the anti-christ but I doubt he is. He certainly would be the one getting the ball rolling in the right(wrong) direction though for where our country will stand with the others as prophesied in Revelations. Actually the right direction since it will be God’s will. Oh an Dassis, one who supports someone who supports the murdering of Gods children and other anti-God related things does not earn the right to quote scripture so don’t pretend you know anything about what the Bible says since you don’t believe it yourself.

Obama is an Authoritarian who will censor all who oppose him. He will make Bush look like a malevolent leader. The black clouds will gather over the world until the light is shown on the darkness. Then all who lurk in this darkness will be blinded by the white light.

G5M3A2B4 – Don’t forget about dogs and cats sleeping together!

Obama will fumble the ball right at the end just like the Crimanoles. Right FL for Obama?

You bible thumpers need to climb down off your soapboxes and face reality. The evangelical is not a majority in this country, and your strong intolerance is not becoming of you. To the contrary, it makes you look like fear mongering loons.

It’s unlikely that the anti-christ would come from America, but a seriously weakened America would be necessary for the anti-christ to arise. Once America loses its ability to morally distinguish between good and evil, seeing only moral relativism and shades of gray, the anti-christ can arise unobstructed with allies throughout the world governments. Promising peace to people weary of vigilance in the fight against terror and true evil in the world, the anti-christ is prophesied to sweep into power with the ability to almost deceive the very elect. This means he will have large support from even churches and those who consider themselves “religious,” but in reality are self-seeking cowards incapable of maintaining a backbone in the world’s most desperate hours.

He is telling us who he is….he will say anything to get this job, folks.
“when someone shows you who they are, believe them”
Maya Angelou

joe the conservative,
I’m not the judge. Jesus earned me the right. You too.

Well put Reflections

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Obama will fumble the ball right at the end just like the Crimanoles.
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Who are the crimanoles? Oh, you mean the Seminoles.. sorry, I prefer the Gators, and Obama is more like Tibow.
http://www.ufl.edu/

It must be hard getting around when you have a fence post stuck up your bum, but that’s what happens when you ride fences.

Not accusing you of judging, just kind of odd that someone who supposedly knows so much about God and Jesus would support someone so against everything having to do with Them.

I live in California, proposition 8 is horrible and will tie our courts up as well as cost thousands of dollars as people fight the discrimination it will craft into CA’s constitution. I totally understand Obama’s position on this – there should be absolutely no confusion about this. Read the proposition and judge for yourselves rather than speculating.

The Associated Press watched it, and surprisingly, the 30-minute infomercial also failed to impress them:
“Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was LESS THAN UPFRONT in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama’s assertion that “I’ve offered spending cuts above and beyond” the expense of his promises is accepted ONLY by his partisans. His vow to save money by “eliminating programs that don’t work” masks his FAILURE throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are – beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.”
Calvin Woodward reports that Obama misled viewers on at least five key points in his 30-minute final argument:
–Health care costs – Obama claimed his plan would lower costs by $2500 per year per family, but it DOES NOT. In fact, Obama can’t point to any particular cost reductions. He plans to spend $50 billion over five years on modernization and chronic-disease prevention and presumes that this will lower costs in the future, but in the meantime it RAISES COSTS at least in the short run on everyone (the $50 billion doesn’t come out of thin air).
–The Pay-Go of his plans – NO, he hasn’t demonstrated that he’s found the revenue for his spending, despite his claims last night. Non-partisan analysts believe that his spending programs will ADD at least $428 billion to the DEFICIT in his first term, and that’s if you accept his non-specific pledge to cut spending in other areas.
–Tax cuts for working class families – Before the commercial aired, he had already begun BACKING AWAY from that idea because of the financial crisis, although Obama didn’t acknowledge it in the ad.
–The “right” to affordable health care – Obama DOES NOT guarantee coverage in any of his plans, at least not for adults.
–Getting out of Iraq – Obama noted that the US spends $10 billion a month in Iraq and talked again about “bringing that war to a close” — but he’s BACKED AWAY from his previous pledges to get out on a strict 16-month timetable, which is as fast as the remaining units can be properly withdrawn.
Update America Break:
If Obama wanted to tax only the rich, Obama would have suggested a flat rate tax to remove all the tax loopholes used by the rich, and that includes Warren Buffet’s hidden billion dollar funds setup just for his family. Obama is a phony and he fools only the fools.
Obama continues to deceive America voters. Obama supporters talk about Governor Sarah Palin, but Obama keeps lying to be the president. No one can believe a person that continues to lie about his program and continuously deceives the voting public. Obama supporters cannot substantiate their rhetoric.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.

I SEE THE MCCAIN HYPOCRITES ARE OUT IN FULL FORCE TONIGHT.. MUST BE A FULL MOON!
PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA – THE WORLD HAS SPOKEN, LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL

OH OH – “UPDATE AMERICA” HAS BEGUN HIS CUT-N-PASTE CAMPAIGN SPOUTING MISINFORMATION.. MCCAIN CAMP MUST BE GETTING PRETTY DESPERATE HOPING THEY CAN HOOK THE LAST REMAINING IDIOTS OUT THERE!

I can’t wait for the police to start rounding up you bible-thumpers, jews, and neo-cons. This is OUR country now!

Hey, MyMy…turn it down, dude!

A younger family member just told a pollster that he was voting for Obama, though he plans to vote for McCain. It wasn’t race that led him to do this; he didn’t want to get into a discussion about the race, it seems.
I wonder how many others who will vote McCain are telling pollsters this?
Obama is very smooth, but one can’t help suspect that it’s all a con. He would push the country towards socialism, and he will remove all barriers to abortion on demand. Everything else, one suspects, will be negotiable.

Sounds like he just voted “PRESENT” again to me.
Tell your “undecided” friends to head to GOOGLE before they head to the polls:
Search “OBAMA” plus any of the following:
gas prices not too high
electricity cost skyrocket
Tony Rezko foreclosed Chicago
Ayers shared office
Ayers helped write books
NLP, Erickson
Rev. Wright best black church has to offer
Rashid Khalidi, Ahmadinejad, Columbia

We just have to rely on the good judgment of the voters not to buy into these negative attack ads. Sooner or later, people are going to figure out if all you run is negative attack ads you don’t have much of a vision for the future or you’re not ready to articulate it.

Obama is NOT trying to take both sides of an issue. He’s merely saying what needs to be said to get elected.
Once he’s in office, then he can start filing the lawsuits, passing the legislation, and forcing this country into the image it needs to be.

Libertarian: “Why Joe McCarthy if what I say is right?”
Wow, and I thought all the kids were supporting Obama. Look up Joseph McCarthy, the originator of the McCarthism tactics you are clearly employing. “He knows a red, he must be a red!” was used to slander and blackball many innocent, law abiding, US citizens – just like you’re doing. Amazing how many terrorists are well respected, law abiding members of society.
What you said isn’t right, it is slander and if you knew anything of American history you’d be embarrassed.

In many elite conservative circles, gay civil unions are the hot topic.
It is a natural for the conservative movement that traditionally puts the rights of the individual before the state.
Civil Unions will become a centerpiece of conservative thought within the next few years. As long as you keep religion out of it, and emphasize separation of church and state-there is nothing at all wrong with civil unions.
The Republican caucus in Washington DC now has 40 members of Congress that support human rights for gays. It won’t be long.
The Dems will say they are doing it because they have to-but in reality-it is a crux of principle for rights of the individual ahead of the state.
BTW, those that want the judges to do it are pursuing the wrong path. Education and the ballot are the correct path. You use the courts, and you will lose in the end.

http://www.pr-inside.com/state-of-hawai-i-backs-andy-martin-r893026.htm
This is very interesting. The o bom ass has never admitted this. Yet now it goes before a judge on 18 Nov 2008. If the judge allows it to stand, (read the entire article) then it simply means O bombama cannot be president because of the Constitution.
As for torture in Vietnam. I read one a post by JR concerning McCain rolling over. For your information I too was tortured in Vietnam. If you believe it was very pleasant, then I suggest someone tying your hands and feet, and then with burning cigs, etc, (which I have the scars on my chest) see how you enjoy it. Your post is enough to make a maggot gag. Since you have never been there, you have a really great reason to talk. Or maybe you might like to be hit in the gonies with a rifle butt. Yes, that you would enjoy because you have none. Don’t ever treat torture lightly, because many of us have been there and it has never been fun.
You are the classic piece of work who works for obama.

Mike Oliver: ” He should provide accurate and verifiable information that would dispel rumors”
The FACT that McCain has NOT released the corresponding information you are demanding of Obama strongly suggests you are either a strictly partisan McCain supporter or have extraordinarily little intellectual rigor. Where is your demand for McCain’s military record? What about his Academy transcripts? Recent medical records? Any medical records for Palin (even a couple pages certified by a licensed Dr. like Obama did)? McCain’s original birth certificate (as the legally accepted and certified notarized birth certificate is not acceptable to you)?
You are demanding everything down to a record of his last spelling bee appearance from Obama and nothing from McCain. This suggests either a partisan looking to sow doubt or an idiot. Which are you?

What REPUBLICANS fail to understand is there is a difference between what one believes personally and what the decisions the leader of a FREE nation must do to remain free.
Funny the Pubs love to stand in front of waving flags and say a bunch of psuedo-patriotic platitudes with the word “freedom” fifty times a speech, but they don’t even understand what the word FREEDOM really means.

Obama told MTV he believes marriage is “between a man and a woman” and that he is “not in favor of gay marriage.”
Obama never said anything about the Constitution and the exception being California or any state on same-sex marriage. Democrats’ saying more than is said and written by Obama. That is the problem with flip-flop Obama.

Oh, “Jim Jones” comments now…
We’re not about killing ourselves. But we wouldn’t mind losing some bible-thumpers, jews and neo-cons.

In response to the person who said that Obama did not go to Hawaii by himself, but had secret service guards to protect him:
Secret service guards are sworn not to divulge information about presidential candidates they protect. So, the question about Obama’s trip to Hawaii persist. Why does he not disclose the facts and make his detractors look like fools?
I had a secret clearing at one time, and had to disclose a lot of personal information about myself before I was granted that clearance. Obama wants to be commander in chief of all our armed forces, appoint federal judges, and his cabinet and make life and death decisions that affect not only Americans, but the entire world.
Note to all the freaks who think otherwise: I am not foolish, nor am I a desperate conservative. In fact, I am not a conservative at all, but am a libertarian.
Yet I am certain that the person who may well become the US President should not hold back serious data about himself before he is elected. He should provide accurate and verifiable information that would dispel rumors (if they are false) that may be detrimental to the trust the people have in him — their commander in chief.
Otherwise, we may end up with a Trojan Horse to lead us into the abyss.

Obama says that he personally believes that “marriage is between a man and a woman” but also says that “equality is a moral imperative” for gay and lesbian Americans. He advocates the complete repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) because “federal law should not discriminate in any way against gay and lesbian couples, which is precisely what DOMA does.” He supports granting civil unions for gay couples, and in 2006 he opposed a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. In March 2007, Obama initially avoided answering questions about a controversial statement by a U.S. general that “homosexual acts” are “immoral,” but Obama later told CNN’s Larry King, “I don’t think that homosexuals are immoral any more than I think heterosexuals are immoral.”
http://pewforum.org/religion08/compare.php?Issue=Gay_Marriage

McCain says marriage should be between a man and a woman and should be regulated by the states. He opposed a federal constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage because “it usurps from the states a fundamental authority they have always possessed.” McCain endorsed a 2006 Arizona ballot initiative to limit marriage to be between a man and a woman and said, “I’m proud to have led an effort in my home state to change our state constitution and to protect the sanctity of marriage as between a man and woman.” He also supported the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act, which banned federal recognition of gay marriage and domestic partnerships. He supports the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy and says that to “even reopen the issue” would be a “terrific mistake.”
http://pewforum.org/religion08/compare.php?Issue=Gay_Marriage

I am proud to say that I am in the 2% of African American that will NOT be supporting Obama . . .I am from Chicago and I have followed his “career” and his voting records. . .all that glitter is not gold!

Screw this! Enough already! I’m writing in JERRY GARCIA!

So what are we going to have – an Obama Nation or an abomination. …………..
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/11/01/obama-nation-or-abomination/

next them black folks will want to be marrying white women

Obama fears answering questions that are controversial and would cause him votes. No one knows when Obama really means that which he says. Obama seems like the little boy in a candy store and cannot make a choice as to what he likes and does not like.

Matt Drudge’s headline is misleading on this story is misleading. One is not necessarily on the fence when s/he does not favor gay marriage but also does not favor using the Constitution (in the form of amending it) to justify that position.

Some righteous comments from patriots. Some of the other…well these chicken shits wouldn’t fight if the Red Chinese were knocking on their door looking for MSG and their sister. As for the gay marriage, are you kidding. It seems that the world for the past 5,000 years operated without the promotion of these misfires of nature to full fledged husbands and wives. I do not hate the gay, I pity them, should they have every right? certainly. But marriage is between a man and a woman. Now all you leftys get on your knees and give me 50, pus nut weaklings. Semper Fi!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a lying hypocrite.

Anything to get/keep votes. I’d rather Demos tell me that they don’t care what Obama does wrong, and that they will follow him anywhere. Just don’t make all the excuses.

Placing an issue before the people and amending a Constitution and “playing around” ?
This is Obama’s verbal way of voting “present.”
I thought only John Kerry could be this two-faced and dishonest. I was wrong.

I’m not a Republican or a Democrat. I’m not coming from a religious viewpoint or from being white. I don’t care for McCain/Palin and wish there was a better option in either party. However, the lack of transparency combined with Obama’s being hypocritical (on charitable contributions, helping others, being for and then against multiple things, and mostly, his decision processes with the people he associates with) makes me unhappily a McCain/Palin supporter. At lease with McCain/Palin, they have been transparent and seem to be practicing what they preach.
Just step back, open your eyes and your mind, and look at what the candidates REALLY support. Don’t vote based on race, religion, or on only what is said. Instead, vote on who are they associated with and what’s in their past!

Frank Marshall Davis, Wright, Ayers, Allison Davis, Tony Rezko-Nadhmi Auchi/ Joe Cari (Prison), 230k to Acorn and working for them, Farrakhan, etc. Operation Board Games, Chicago Machine…Michelle Obama, vice president of the Chicago UC hospital, condones turning away poor People. Never liked America until Barack Hussein Obama postulated Presidency. I’d vote for anyone ‘but not’ Barack Hussein Obama.

george,
Don’t be an idiot (okay maybe it too late for that)…this is NOT about “black folks” marrying white women. I am Black and not supporting BHO, but when I see ignorant comments like yours, it makes me think twice.

Grumpy Ol’ Guy: “You gotta loved people with nuanced positions.”Nuanced” is a euphemism for half-assed.
I have more respect for the openly gay advocates of gay marriage, than for this type of fence sitting.
I agree with neither, but respect a straight forward position on issues.”
That’s right. Every complex issue has to have a simple, easy for me to understand answer or else I don’t like it. The world is black or white, good or evil – none of this reality or shades of grey nonsense!

Comments like George are very typical of what we get from the left – equating inter-racial marriage with gay marriage. The reality is, every great society allowed inter-racial marriage, in the Jewish tradition, we know Moses married a black woman for example. However, no tradition, until the last 15 years, has ever allowed gay marriage.

So Obama is against gay marriage – that is what he believes…. yet he is agianst other American’s voting on where they stand on the issue…”its not neccessary” in his opinion. Sounds a little like communism/socialism to me – like Castro, Chavez…the people’s say is unneccessary. Listen to what Obama says it speaks volumes!! Lots of American blood was spilled to give us our say on each issue and Obama thinks “its not neccessary.”

This is typical Obama weasel talk.
He was never against Gay marriage and he made it clear during the primaries that he wanted the defense of marriage act repealed.
Now since winning the primaries, Obama has adopted a different position while still believing in gay marriage.
Thanks to the media , Obama has not been questioned on his flip flops and contradictory stance.

Note to the person who said I am am idiot for asking questions about Obama:
Many people who cannot answer valid questions say that the person asking them is an idiot, or a lackey. You who said this responded with invectives that are not worthy of a civilised answer. Yet for the sake of other people who may read this response I will answer you as follows:
If Obama wins, you will get what you deserve. But I am an old man, a former inmate of Nazi concntration camps, so I do not have much longer to live, and not much to lose. I just love the US and am seeing it going to hell because of the red fascim that is descendng on our country.
I have, long ago, discovered that many people who call themselves “liberals” are not worthy of that name. They seldom think of the unintended consequences that follow their actions.
The ACORN group wanted to have houses for all people, especially African Americans, so they intimidated bankers to make loans to individuals who could not pay the mortgages. They hardly did them any favors, but caused an economic crash in our country.
If we are honest, we will see that ACORN is a “liberal” organizations, but that not only Democrats, but also Republicans are responsible for the mess. The latter did nto have the spine to stand up against ACORN and the range of the moment politicians who, with ACORN were pushing Freddie and Fannie (two government created agencies) to make daqngerous subprime loans to home buyers.
The answer to this problem is not to make the same mistake again, but to think first of unintended consequences that may arise by trying to help people. There are ways to do this, and I refer you to read not only leftist books, but also books by Milton Friedman, or Henry Hazlit. It may do you some good.

Barrack Hussian Obama is the perfect candidate. He looks good and is full of BS. He doesn’t have a clue about Proposition 8 in California. If he did, he would know that the voters ruled for marriage only between a man and a wife in 2000. It was only when a bunch of liberal judges in San Francisco decided that the people were wrong.

Karl,
Amen . . .the left always feel that Black people can relate to the gay agenda. I object to the notion that gender-confused individuals are going through the same struggle that my ancestors went through.

Nice fence sitting by Obama, if it came to your desk to sign or veto (gay marriage) I bet you would say “Present” and send it back to congress so they can make a tough decision for you.

Come on 8% We Need To Stop, No Nothing Obama . This fool is to much !

This is the equivalent of one of his many non-votes in the IL Senate. I can make my own assessment of Obama here. Obama supports same sex marriage. Why is this even debatable? Why can’t the biased media just call it what it is?

Why is there such one sided ness in the media? To this day we don’t have Kerry’s full military records, although Bush was forced to reveal his denatal records for crying out loud. Obama’s records – nothing as indicated by:
1. Occidental College records — Not released
2. Columbia College records — Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper — “not available”
4. Harvard College records — Not released
5. Selective Service Registration — Not released
6. Medical records — Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule — “not available”
8. Law practice client list — Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate — Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth — Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published — None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
13. Record of baptism– Not released or “not available”
14. Illinois State Senate records–”not available”
So why is one side forced o reveal everything and the other side nothing? Why did it take the media 14 months and the National Enquirer for chrissake before Edwards love baby was revealed?Hell, why is that people don’t know that Bill Clinton has been boinking women during his overseas trips for years – why is the man stream press hiding this stuff? You would think that someone is being paid off or something – what is the press so invested in this candidate, and who do they always seem to be so one sided, to the point of suppressing and hiding records?
Well, if he wins we are for Alaska and the Alaska independence movement – why should our state set aside land to be a playground for rich eco-tourists?
Go Alaskan independance – the yes, to the great NATION of Alaska!

You can tell when Obama is lying..his lips move!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on..the guy can’t prove he is even a legal citizen!!!! I think the whole thing is an experiment to show the world what a bunch of guppies the american electorate is becoming. Soros has spent millions to show that he could take a nobody and spend enough money anyone can be elected because the average voter is an idiot who does not care one iota of anything except his pocketbook.

Obama is against free speech. He has already thrown off the media from his plane who do not agree with him.
The fairness doctrine will be signed by Obama soon.

People have the right, I think, gay or otherwise, to designate another adult as a benefactor of any benefits they receive, and the right to share in any property and assets they may hold. I don’t believe it’s the State’s business nor our right to interfere.
However, I do have a problem with the idea of marriage being between anyone other than a man and a woman. Of course, a gay couple can say they’re married all they want, why the need to get the government to sanction that?

Laura,
I think you are correct, that Congress will make a big swing back. Many Obama supporters, have a messianic view of this man, and think one man can solve all these great problems.
Even ignoring all the data showing that socialism does not benefit the middle-class or a country at large, putting this much faith in man always leads to disappointment.
We on the right, will remain happy people regardless, as most of us lack this delusion, as we know happiness is what we make it.

Karl,
Agreed, what happened to the left? The argument of adoption and the potential harm that could do allowing gays to have equal access to adopt as straight couples, seems cruel to children. I am sure there are plenty of solid gay parents, but to legally gurantee a child be raised without a mother or father does not seem right. I am voting YES on 8

I voted for Gay Marriage-Before I didn’t. I voted for offshore drilling before I didn’t. I voted for nuclear power before I didn’t. I voted for clean coal before I didn’t. I think he has a plan for change in America, however, it actually doesn’t include the majority of the hard working and innovative Americans. It does benefit people that want a handout, that is who benefits and that is his constitutency. This guy hates America and he hates everything it stands for that is why he has change on the mind. It is sad that so many people have been fooled. I for one would take Bill Clinton for another four years over this, at least I know what is there. Obama was never vetted his shady past was ignored by the media this is just Bizarre.

Q: “He has already thrown off the media from his plane who do not agree with him.”
FoxNews and the Wall Street Journal are on his plane. My questions to you:
Are you saying Foxnews agrees with Obama, are you ignorant of reality, or are you lying? Those are the only three options I see.

So Obama is against gays getting married; big deal. Hell most stright people don’t give a damn about a merrage certificate anyway just look at the devorce rate in California. If the Gay people want to tie up the courts with Divorce Proceedings; fighting over who gets what so be it.

Folks, it doesn’t really matter who you vote for.
If Obama is elected, he’ll raise taxes on over 45% of Americans, and not say a word about it.
If McCain is elected, he’ll have a heart attack and leave Palin in the presidency.
Either way, America’s screwed.

Play it safe Barry. Keep the base, appeal to moderates. I think this is the equivalent of voting present. Far from a transformational figure, just another Chicago Machine Hack

McCain is going to win folks. The map is out there. Remember any undecided voters in swing states have seen 24/7 Obama for 4 months. They are not voting for him. Any state in the margin will go for McCain. FL, NC, VA, OH, IN, PA, MO, CO, NV all have new polls putting them within the margin and with Obama below 50%. BE PREPARED, TAKE PRECAUTIONS IN LARGE CITIES!

Frankly, I have no faith in the Amer5ican electorate as a whole. As a whole they are TV watchers. They believe everything the talking head tell them, and why not? Why would they lie? They have no bone to pick! Right? At least that is what I hear from so many liberal idiots. What is so surprising is the shear stupidity of younger voters who don’t realize they are being sold a bill of goods that will cost them dearly for the rest of their lives. The Obama “plan” is fantastic if you have little or no chance of success due to poor preparation or indifference. Nancy young College age voters are either just plain stupid or lacking in the necessary experience in life to discern that expanded socialism only makes America less competitive which means more unemployment and a declining standard of living over time. Didn’t anyone study Europe at all? Why is it that Germany finally elected a so-called Conservative after so many years with socialisms? Why is it that France, of all places, finally elected a so-called Conservative after so many years of socialism? Why is it that in the U.K., the conservative, Torries have a new lease on party strength after so many years of labor rule?
Duuuuhhh!!! But our College students think socialism is the answer?
Drinking too much cool-aid from the far left. Watch the change in Congressional power in 2010 and 2012, and you will finally realize how stupid you were.

Wright, Ayers, Rezco, Acorn, Farrakhan, Sinclair, Pelozi, Reid Frank and let us not forget Williams, Olbermann, Matthews, Brokaw, Blitzer and all of the other slime on CNN & MSNBC. Need more reasons to vote McCain/Palin?

I was against it while I was for it.
-BO

******* VOTE NO on PROP 8 *******
Eliminating fundamental rights is wrong. Despite what Prop 8 supporters claim Prop 8 does in fact take away rights which include pension plan survivor benefits, no guaranteed leave when family member is ill, long-term care insurance, state veteran benefits, tax exemption of inheritance, exemption from testifying against spouse, tax exemption of assets between spouses and marriage.

Is what the junior senator from Illinois said the same thing as being partially pregnant? I’m sure, at the 11th and a half hour before the election this makes no difference. By the same tkoen the fierce opposition to Proposition 8, which apparently will pass, has caused some concern among obviously quarters in the Bay Area. What a shame that Finnochio’s shut down a few years ago. They would have had the “drag of all drags” next Tuesday night.

Sorry, I goofed in my earlier comment. I meant to say that Proposition 8 apparently will “fail.” Let me also correct a typo “tkoen” should obviously be “token.”

Paul: ” He opposes gay marriage but also supports Courts imposing it and opposes the citizens voting on the issue. So how would he achieve the ban he supposedly supports? ”
Don’t be an idiot. The government imposes marriage on no one. Obama does not feel that governmental force is appropriate to enforce his personal opposition to gay marriage.

You might have already seen this one…it is extremely long, but very informative about Obama.
I know that many of you are sick and tired of all this political “spin”, but if you read just one more thing between now and next month’s election, I urge you to read the following editorial. I don’t know who “Michael Masters” is or what he does, but he does write cogently and well. A Google search turns up a Michael Masters who is a lawyer in Philadelphia, but I don’t believe that he is the author of this open letter. There is a “Michael C. Masters” who lives in McLean, VA – I presume, but do not know, for sure, that he is the author. However, he didn’t show up in any Google searches that I conducted, so I guess he isn’t “notorious” enough to be found. I look at that as a good thing, however. On the surface, that suggests he is just another citizen like the rest of us and has no particular ax to grind. However, he HAS done his homework before writing this editorial.
To Barack Hussein Obama,
The New York Times carried a story on Saturday, October 4, 2008, that proved you had a significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than what you previously admitted. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.
The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008, that FBI records showed that you had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr. Rezko a couple of times a year. The FBI files showed that you saw him weekly. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.
Your speech in Philadelphia on March 18, 2008, about “race” contradicted your statement to Anderson Cooper on March 14 when you said that you never heard Reverend Wright make his negative statements about white America. While your attendance at Trinity Church for 20 years is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on March 14.
In your 1st debate with John McCain, you said that you never said that you would meet with the leaders of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea without “preparations” at lower levels … Joe Biden repeated your words in his debate with Sarah Palin … while the video tape from your debate last February clearly shows that you answered “I would” to the question of meeting with those leaders within 12 months without “any” preconditions. While your judgement about meeting with enemies of the USA without pre-conditions is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America in the debate with McCain.
On July 14, 2008, you said that you always knew that the surge would work while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you stated that the surge would not work. While your judgement about military strategy as a potential commander-in-chief is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on July 14.
You now claim that your reason for voting against funding for the troops was because the bill did not include a time line for withdrawal, while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you voted against additional funding because you wanted our troops to be removed immediately … not in 16 months after the 2008 election as you now claim. While your judgement about removing our troops unilaterally in 2007 is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about your previous position.
You claim to have a record of working with Republicans while the record shows that the only bill that you sponsored with a Republican was with Chuck Lugar … and it failed. The record shows that you vote 97% in concert with the Democrat party and that you have the most liberal voting record in the Senate. You joined Republicans only 13% of the time in your votes and those 13% were only after agreement from the Democrat party. While it is of concern that you fail to include conservatives in your actions and that you are such a liberal, the greater concern is that you distorted the truth.
In the primary debates of last February, 2008, you claimed to have talked with a “Captain” of a platoon in Afghanistan “the other day” when in fact you had a discussion in 2003 with a Lieutenant who had just been deployed to Afghanistan. You lied in that debate.
In your debates last spring, you claimed to have been a “professor of Constitutional law” when in fact you have never been a professor of Constitutional law. In this last debate, you were careful to say that you “taught a law class” and never mentioned being a “professor of Constitutional law.” You lied last spring.
You and Joe Biden both claimed that John McCain voted against additional funding for our troops when the actual records show the opposite. You distorted the truth.
You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted against funding for alternate energy sources 20 times when the record shows that John McCain specifically voted against funding for bio fuels, especially corn .. and he was right …. corn is too expensive at producing ethanol, and using corn to make ethanol increased the price of corn from $2 a bushel to $6 a bushel for food. You distorted the truth.
You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted like both of you for a tax increase on those making as little as $42,000 per year while the voting record clearly shows that John McCain did not vote as you and Joe Biden. You lied to America.
You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time when you know that Democrats also vote 90% of the time with the President (including Joe Biden) because the vast majority of the votes are procedural. You are one of the few who has not voted 90% of the time with the president because you have been missing from the Senate since the day you got elected. While your absence from your job in the Senate is of concern, the greater concern is that you spin the facts.
You did not take an active role in the rescue plan. You claimed that the Senate did not need you while the real reason that you abstained was because of your close relationships with the executives of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Countrywide, and Acorn … who all helped cause the financial problems of today … and they all made major contributions to your campaign. While your relationship with these executives and your protection of them for your brief 3 years in the Senate (along with Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd) is of concern, the greater concern is that you are being deceitful.
You forgot to mention that you personally represented Tony Rezko and Acorn. Tony Rezko, an Arab and close friend to you, was convicted of fraud in Chicago real estate transactions that bilked millions of tax dollars from the Illinois government for renovation projects that you sponsored as a state senator … and Acorn has been convicted of voter fraud, real estate sub prime loan intimidation, and illegal campaign contributions. Tony Rezko has contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to your political campaigns. You personally used your political positions to steer money to both Tony Rezko and Acorn and you used Acorn to register thousands of phony voters for Democrats and you. While your relationships with Rezko and Acorn are of concern, the greater concern is that you omitted important facts about your relationships with them to America.
During your campaign, you said: “typical white person.” “They cling to their guns and religion.” “They will say that I am black.” You played the race card. You tried to label any criticism about you as racist. You divide America.
You claim that you will reduce taxes for 95% of America, but you forgot to tell America that those reductions are after you remove the Bush tax reductions. You have requested close to $1 billion in earmarks and several million for Acorn. Your social programs will cost America $1 trillion per year and you claim that a reduction in military spending ($100 billion for Iraq) can pay for it. While your economic plan of adding 30% to the size of our federal government is of concern, the greater concern is that you are deceiving America.
The drain to America’s economy by foreign supplied oil is $700 billion per year (5% of GDP) while the war in Iraq is $100 billion (less than 1% of GDP). You voted against any increases to oil exploration for the last 3 years and any expansion of nuclear facilities. Yet today, you say that you have always been for more oil and more nuclear. You are lying to America.
Mr. Obama, you claimed that you “changed” your mind about public financing for your campaign because of the money spent by Republican PACs in 2004. The truth is that the Democrat PACs in 2004, 2006, and 2008 spent twice as much as the Republican PACs (especially George Soros and MoveOn.org). You are lying to America.
Mr. Obama, you have done nothing to stop the actions of the teachers union and college professors in the USA. They eliminated religion from our history. They teach pro gay agendas and discuss sex with students as young as first grade. They bring their personal politics into the classrooms. They disparage conservatives. They brainwash our children. They are in it for themselves ….. not America Are you reluctant to condemn their actions because teachers/professors and the NEA contribute 25% of all money donated to Democrats and none to Republicans? You are deceiving America.
Oh, Mr. Obama, Teddy Roosevelt said about a hundred years ago that we Americans should first look at the character of our leaders before anything else.
Your character looks horrible. While you make good speeches, motivating speeches, your character does not match your rhetoric. You talk the talk, but do not walk the walk.
1. You lied to America. You lied many times. You distorted facts. You parsed your answers like a lawyer.
2. You distorted the record of John McCain in your words and in your advertisements.
3. You had associations with some very bad people for your personal political gains and then lied about those associations.
4. You divide America about race and about class.
Now let me compare your record of lies, distortions, race baiting, and associations to John McCain: War hero. Annapolis graduate with “Country first.” Operational leadership experience like all 43 previously elected presidents of the USA as a Navy officer for 22 years. 26 years in the Senate. Straight talk. Maverick. 54% of the time participated on bills with Democrats. Never asked for an earmark. The only blemish on his record is his part in the Keating 5 debacle about 25 years ago.
Mr. Obama, at Harvard Law School, you learned that the end does not justify the means. You learned that perjury, false witness, dishonesty, distortion of truth are never tolerated. Yet, your dishonesty is overwhelming. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty that caused the impeachment and disbarment of Bill Clinton. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty of Scooter Libby. You should be ashamed.
Mr. Obama, it is time for us Americans to put aside our differences on political issues and vote against you because of your dishonest character. It is time for all of us Americans to put aside our political issues and vote for America first. It is time for America to vote for honesty.
Any people who vote for you after understanding that you are dishonest should be ashamed of themselves for making their personal political issues more important than character. Would these same people vote for the anti-Christ if the anti-Christ promised them riches? Would they make a golden calf while Moses was up the mountain? Would they hire someone for a job if that someone lied in an interview? Of course not. So why do some of these people justify their votes for you even though they know you are dishonest? Why do they excuse your dishonesty? Because some of these people are frightened about the future, the economy, and their financial security …. and you are preying on their fears with empty promises … and because some (especially our young people) are consumed by your wonderful style and promises for “change” like the Germans who voted for Adolf Hitler in 1932. The greed/envy by Germans in 1932 kept them from recognizing Hitler for who he was. They loved his style. Greed and envy are keeping many Americans from recognizing you … your style has camouflaged your dishonesty …. but many of us see you for who you really are … and we will not stop exposing who you are every day, forever if it is necessary.
Mr. Obama, you are dishonest. Anyone who votes for you is enabling dishonesty.
Mr. Obama, America cannot trust that you will put America first in your decisions about the future.
Mr. Obama, you are not the “change” that America deserves. We cannot trust you.
Mr. Obama, You are not ready and not fit to be Commander-in-Chief.
Mr. Obama, John McCain does not have as much money as your campaign to refute all of your false statements. And for whatever reasons, the mainstream media will not give adequate coverage or research about your lies, distortions, word parsing, bad associations, race baiting, lack of operational leadership experience, and generally dishonest character. The media is diverting our attention from your relationships and ignoring the fact that you lied about those relationships. The fact that you lied is much more important than the relationships themselves …. just like with Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon … Monica Lewinski and Watergate were not nearly as bad as the fact that those men lied about the events … false witness … perjury … your relationships and bad judgements are bad on their own … but your lies are even worse.
Therefore, by copy of this memo, all who read this memo are asked to send it to everyone else in America before it is too late. We need to do the job that the media will not do. We need to expose your dishonesty so that every person in America understands who you really are before election day.
Mr. Obama, in a democracy, we get what we deserve. And God help America if we deserve you.
Michael Master
McLean, Virginia
READER ADD ON – Do not believe the polls as the media reports. They want you to believe that McCain does not stand a chance so you will not vote…do not be discouraged. GO AND VOTE FOR JOHN McCAIN !!
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Stareclips.com at 10:03said it best. ‘As a civilized society, I would think that by now we have learned that the law is supposed to protect us from each other to protect our liberties, not as a tool for which we can fight each other and take each other’s liberties away.’
To look at gay marriage as a crime is silly. No one is hurt when two gay men or ladies get married. No one is robbed of money or property. This should never be considered a crime punishable by law.
Obama stated it very well.

Here I am, another right wing nut-job! I don’t have any guns but I do love my religion. I do love the Lord and have had to “cling” to this scripture lately – John 19:11
Jesus answered, “You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin.” I know that O will only have power if given to him, but those of us who VOTE him into power, for that WE will have to answer. Obama knows he cannot speak out against gay marriage or else he loses that vote, if he doesn’t say he doesn’t support it, he loses the evangelical vote. He’s trying to serve two masters and this will never do. I am casting my vote for the unborn, who Obama will choose to ignore and destroy almost immediately upon taking office. John McCain has never minced words on his support for the unborn-check his interview at Saddleback. May God bless you indeed Mr. McCain, and may the truth truly be known about the smoke and mirrors that have made Obama who he is, for without them, he is nothing-simply look at his voting record if you have any doubt (notice liberals never EVER defend the voting record.) If he cared about anything, he’d come back to Illinois and straighten out his ego-tripping Governor, but then it’s not an election year for that guy!

why is it that Obama claims to be for the innocent, yet from his comments above, would clearly be happy with gays having equal rights to adoption of kids, thereby legally guaranteeing no father or mother for adopted babies (which would happen if gays are allowed to be considered married, as they would be seen as equal for adoption). I guess given he would prefer to see unwanted kids, killed anyway, he probably sees no need for adoption.

How is he a liar? The California constitution allows gay marriage, and yes vote on prop 8 reverses the constitutional decision. That’s wrong despite what you think of gay marriage.

Obama supporters cannot look the truth in the eyes. Obama supporters spread the same old deceptions and lies. Obama is a nothing of nothings.

Update America:
Sarah Palin has sat under biblical preaching. She has committed her very soul to the Christ of the Bible, not the prophet Jesus prayed to by the Obamas.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.

Update America:
Michelle Obama, if living in the White House, would produce a secularization of this Republic. She would work tenaciously alongside her husband to envelope our country in the Islamic mindset for she is a mask Muslim.The Jeremiah Wright hold is very much still there—in both Michelle and B. Hussein.
Update America does not respond to any Obama supporters without credentials.

Kathy,
As to your comments that gays are simply born gay and therefore that is good, even if you are right, many kids are born “crack babies” does that mean society should encourage them to smoke crack?

Sarah Palin is for states rights, the separation of state and federal government. A state can adjust to the people of a state better than the federal government. The federal government is a goliath that needs trimming down and more power should go to the states.
That which is good for Maine is not always good for Florida and that which is good for Ohio may not be good for California. That is why the decision for gay marriages should go to the states and not mandated by the federal government. The Mormons settled in Utah to have a better life in that which they believe. So should it be for others to decide what is good for their state.
The states could even be further defining counties that have gay marriages or other religious preference. It is not the right of a FREE people to impose their will on people that intend no harm. People do not understand that people are gay because it is Gods way. People do not choose to be gay or not to be gay.
Being gay is the way a person is born.
Just so, you know that I am straight and I always enjoy the company and sex with a woman. However, that is God’s way and I would never impose the way I choose to live on other people. It is time for all people to open their minds, open their hearts to the gay people everywhere, and let the gays live as they choose to live. Let gays love as they choose to love.
A baby addicted to drugs is not the same as being gay. Drugs cross the blood brain barrier to cause dependency. Being gay is not cause by drugs crossing the blood brain barrier. Gays do not have any mental illness.
http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=weblog&id=97&wlid=5&cn=55
Obama Says He Is Against Same-Sex Marriage

Karl,
I’m asking again who does it hurt?
You stated it would confuse children to see gay and straight marriages as equal. Wouldn’t it set a better example to all children to see adults in responsible, committed relationships? If 6% of the population is gay, then it would follow that around 6% of all children are gay. Don’t they need the examples that loving, committed relationships should be the goal, not throw away relationships.
This all centers around the belief by some that being gay is a choice. Science has determined it isn’t. For example, gay men’s brain functioning is similar to straight women’s and lesbian women process information more like straight men. No one can change that. Just as I can’t make my dear husband think like I do, he can’t make me think like he does. It is the same with gay people. It is just the way their brain is wired.
As for the adoption issue, the line for babies is long but there are so many needy children out there that need homes and no one is adopting. That should concern us all. Having more prospective parents would be a good thing. And no, living with gay parents won’t make the kids gay. Studies have shown the percentage of straight children is the same regardless of who the parent is.

Homosexuals don’t have a monopoly on science. It is politically correct to call science that reflects negatively on gays “junk science”, and call “science” junk science that promotes homosexuality. This junk mindedness is promoted in our universities, and by the decadant media counterculture.

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Gays don’t have a monopoly on science. In most universities and the decadant media subculture, it is politically correct to brand as “science” junk science that makes the gay lifestyle look good and to brand as “junk science” good science that reflects poorly on being gay.

The people of California voted 61% in favor of defining marriage as being between a man and a woman. 4 judges overturned the will of the people. Now the people have a chance to be heard again. Obama will and has said anything to anyone. He’s once again talking out both sides of his mouth. We as a nation don’t want a leader who’s desperate to please everyone.

For Obamacrat: remember when McCain criticized Bush’s tax cuts for the rich as unacceptable, now they have become indispensible. Remember when he criticized religious fundamentalists as intolerant, now he courts them diligently and sucks up to them. Remember when he voted with Bush 90% of the time, by his own words, and now he can’t run away from Bush fast enough.
Just keep babbling. And you’ve always been a McCain sychophant anyway, here masquerading as a former Obama supporter. Nice try.

One thing that the media has failed to tell you as they have been promoting Obama. Ideas have consequences.
1.To say that he is going to force small business owners to give their employees healthcare will force many of these owners to lay off people to meet that demand or raise prices and hurt many of their businesses. And he wants healtcare for everyone and the government will control it. WOW that is a tremendously novel idea. You want to know what kind of program it will be: look at the Social Security; look at Medicare. Aren’t they both close to bankruptcy? Name one government program (other than the military) where the quality of the program has not gone down and the costs have not skrocketed?
This what kind of healthcare program that we will have.
2. The coming democratic controlled congress is salivating for the time in the next few months when they pass the Fairness Doctrine; to silence conservative talk shows that reveal the truth that is not revealed in the Liberal media. They want to control the airwaves. This is what Stalin, Hitler, and Mao Tse Tung did when they came into power. And we know what happened to people when they opposed them.
3. His increased spending cannot be paid for by taxing the rich. So I ask you the question: “Where is it coming from?” Hmmm… middle Americans. We were also promised a middle class tax cut by Bill Clinton and I am still waiting for it. Oh, that’s right, three months after he became president, he told us he could not give it to us because the situation was worse than he had thought.
4. The aspect of taxing the rich. The rich are the ones who offer many people new jobs. Not only in their own companies but in their homes and other luxuries. Look at what happened when gas went up to almost $4 a gallon. It hurt restaurants, the entertainment industry, hotels, airlines and much more. I wish that I was rich but I am not going to sit around and be envious of them and resent what they have. The fact that many of them are rich is that they they take the risks that many people will not. They invest their money and long hours to build businesses. While many of their employees go home after 8 hours. unfortunately for many of the business owner, they work 12-14 hours a day; six and 7 days a week. Why should they be penalized?
5. I want to tell you about another man who ran for president on the banner of change. In 1976, Jimmy Carter was elected president on the platform of change. And we got change. Look at the community reinvestment act. This forced banks and savings and loans to make loans to people who were not qualified to make the payments. The consequence: the savings and loan scandles that Ronald Regan had to straighten out. This is the same mess that we just went through with the ARMs and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Alos one more thing about the change that Carter brought was 15-20% interest rates on home loans. That brought change. During the debates when Obama was saying that we had the worst economy since the depression, he got it wrong it was worse than it is now. But Obama would not throw Carter under the bus.
6. It is like my pastor said this morning, “When voting for a president, look at their associates and look at their voting record in the past.”
In two days it will be your choice and if you vote for change, you will get it and it won’t be the change you are hoping for.

ANYONE THAT VOTES FOR HUSSEIN OBAMA….IS INSANE… THE MAN IS A SOCIALIST.. AND VERY VERY DANGEROUS TO AMERICA… WAKE UP AMERICA.. HE WILL TAX US ALL TO DEATH .. HE HAS TO.. TO PAY FOR ALL THE FRICKING PROGRAMS HE WANTS… AND LETS NOT FORGET ABOUT HIS LITTLE YOUTH BRIGADE…. JUST LIKE HITLER HAD… HE WANTS IT TO BE STRONGER AND BIGGER THAN OUR ARMY … THE MAN IS INSANE.. AND HE ALSO WANTS TO GET RID OF OUR NUKES… OH YEAH THAT’S A SMART MOVE….COME ON YOU MENTAL MIDGETS WAKE UP .. BEOFER YOU PUT ALL OF US IN DANGER

Electing Obama elects gay marriage. Here are my in-depth blog posts on this issue:
http://thechair.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/28/electing_obama_elects_gay_marriage.thtml
http://thechair.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/21/obama_opposes_california_marriage_protection_act.thtml
http://thechair.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/22/another_witness_to_obamas_opposition_to_preserving_normal_marriage.thtml
TheChair

This is not nuance. This is saying you oppose gay marriage while opposing any measure which would have the effect of limiting gay marriage. It’s disingenuous.

Ah, another issue “beyond his pay grade.” So much for the man that Joe Biden says “has steel in his spine.” Well, the sad fact is that in order to have steel in your spine you have to have a spine in the first place. Barack Obama simply doesn’t. He is an opportunistic narcissicist who’s never had an independent thought in his political life. He stands for nothing because, sadly like the man-child Bill Clinton, his first goal is to be loved with only adolescent petulance and snarky, smug arrogance for any adult who challenges him. Obama has never taken a stand on anything of any true import; he speaks in vague, bumper sticker generalities about “hope” and “change” – hollow definition-less concepts crafted by his dissembling handlers and swallowed whole by his slobbering, sychophant army of snarky groupies. Barack Obama is nothing more than a facade from a Hollywood back-lot, whose only gift is knowing how to create the illusion of substance. We need much, much more in a president and this empty suit simply doesn’t pack the gear.

Obama also endorsed in favor for Amendment 2 in Florida.

Look… There is ZERO test for gender preference on a marriage license. Either or both candidates can ~prefer~ whatever they want. The requirement is PURELY one of the candidates’ physical BIOLOGY – not their preference. It’s a requirement for a biologically COMPLIMENTARY pair; ONE OF EACH GENDER. Who can deny that that is what nature obviously intended anyway? There are TWO genders – not one – and the only reason gender exists is to create new life.

Simply put Barack Obama is a dangerous choice – for many, many, many reasons. Our vote – each and every one – is important – should not be bought and should be cast after we have gathered information on each candidate and studied it carefully, connected all the dots, etc. Barack Obama can not stand up to that kind of scrutiny. Try it!!
We need all our fellow Americans to think this through – voters in Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Missouri, Ohio, Indiana, Virginia – in fact voters in every single state – your vote is important to the future of this country. John McCain intends to do what is right for this country – on every matter important to “we the people” Vote America vote McCain/Palin!!!

OBAMA = JIMMY CARTER2
YOU WILL LUV THE DOUBLE DIGITS IN – INFLATION, UNEMPLOYMENT, MORTGAGE RATES, MILITARY DEFEATS, DEMOCRAT CRIMINALS, TERRORIST VICTIMS AND ON AND ON AND ON

While some homosexuals may be born with those tendencies, and for that I feel sorry for them to be face with that choice, others pursue homosexuality out of perversion. Homosexuality is a sexual perversion, not normalcy. It would be the same as saying,” Ah,leave the poor pedophile alone, he can’t help help it he likes touching little boys, he was born that way” Committing sin is a choice. We are all born with a sin nature but it is a choice to act upon it.

I dont think Cathy knows much about anything…

IF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA – FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE I WILL NOT BE PROUD OF MY COUNTRY.

Kathy, Obama is ALREADY discriminating against people! He is discriminates against anyway who becomes exercises their LIBERTY to become successful by ‘redistributing’ the fruits of their labor and handing it BOTH to those who didn’t lift a finger to earn their own way AND a little cut to a small group of elitists who install themsleves to ‘oversee’ the transaction… Obama HATES our Constitution and he will be LYING when he takes an oath to protect it because his intent is to CRAP ON IT! (It’s the REASON that he studied it so carefully…. understand?)

Liberty or Death – A vote for Nadar is a vote for BHO. MCCain at LEAST promised to FREEZE federal spending. He IS a fiscal conservative and that is the only kind of politician we should have in the WH right now. Bush was a fiscal LIBERAL whose veto pen was dried up before he even took office.

And the thing that really bothers those of us who live in California is…originally, we did not want to touch the constitution so we voted over 60% to define marriage as between a man and a woman. JUDGES disenfanchised us from our vote, opinion and will! Now – IF Obama (can’t commit to a decision) wins, he will appoint more judges who will alienate the will of the people and usurp our US Constitution. Where is the “fairness for all” the No Against Prop 8 are referring to? Oh I know – if you agree with them, they praise you if you disagree, you do not have a right to say your opinion and they steal, shread and vandalize your support signs from your own property. So much for the tolerant LEFT!

I cant wait til this older generation of rednecks dies off. This country ill be a much better place.
McCain is the most two-faced politician in the world and these idiot rednecks are saying OBAMA of all people is a liar.
It’s almost laughable until you realize these inbreds are actually sincere.
Please kill yourselves for the sake of your country.

I have a question.
If the sanctity of marriage is so important, then why aren’t proponents of Prop 8 trying to ban divorce? After all, it is not all the unmarried gays that are causing marriages to fail…
Another question…
Why does the government recognize marriage at all? and why do we allow the government to tax its citizens based on these personal choices? Why do we allow such social engineering in a country that is supposed to be the Land of the FREE?

We tried just making a law about it, but it got thrown out as unconstitutional. We have no choice now but to make it an amendment. He just doesn’t want to admit that he is really for gay marriage. Its he way to warm up to both sides. He didn’t initially say he was against it because it was a constitutional amendment, he said it was ‘divisive and discriminatory’. Sorry Barry, you can’t have it both ways. Be honest. You support gay marriage. I would respect you more for that than pandering to both sides.

Liberty or Death,
It wasn’t McCain who wanted to give the 7billion dollar pay-out, he was the one who was trying to push everyone into a different direction. Obama, Biden, and the media got after him saying that he wanted to change the subject away from the plan that the whole meeting was about. McCain was less socialist of them all.

Obama is for gay marriage,pure and simple.He voted against outlawing it,that makes him for it.Just like voting against the ban on partial birth abortion(his defense of Roe vs Wade is crap,he voted against it the third time when it had a clause saying it couldn’t interfere with Roe vs Wade).And just like when he voted for the DC and Chicago gun bans,he voted for gun bans which makes him anti-gun.He is a Socialist who wants to shove his socialist policies down our throats.Anyone who disagrees look up socialism.

You forgot to mention that he spouts it off 20 times 20 differant ways.

And remember,all excuse must be given in the Obama Obiden campaign fashion.Plenty of doublespeak and and positions on the fence if your original position is too controversial.

Hey JCYSIO-DMIR, great post, thanks.
I had a Yes on 8 sign in my yard and of course, it was stolen. Tolerance is only tolerated if we stand-down. Free speech is only mandated if it doesn’t hurt anybody’s little feelings.. I can’t believe this country is taking a turn for the worse.
May the Lord’s will be done November 4.
McCain/Palin 08
Palin/Jindal 12
Three that set us free: Guns, God, Guts.

UR Dreaming,where have you been?On Mars?He will never tell the truth about himself until he is the US Grand Commisar.Anyone who thinks he will before then doesn’t know him.

Only a skilled politician can be both for and against something at the same time. Way to take a stand, ROFL. Generally Obama’s stance on a particular issue depends on his geographic location, ie who he’s speaking to.
If this scrub gets elected, at least the younger folks will get a taste of what it was like to live under Jimmy Carter’s administration.

As the election draws near, this American (living offshore in Cebu, Philippines) is getting more and more uneasy. Im GOP, although never was McCain’s biggest fan, that said, when I go to our Consulate office tomorrow to cast my vote, it will be with 100% conviction I vote for Mr. McCain. I am now convinced Mr. Obama would be damaging to our republic. Being offshore, I have the benefit of not being barraged by campaign ads, and shape my opinion solely from the candidates words themselves. Hearted by poll numbers, the “masks” have come off, and the true colors (no pun intended) are starting to show. Earlier, I had resigned myself to the notion that at least if Mr. Obama won, it would go along way in reshaping the culture, and healing historical wounds. A young black child could actually dream of one day becoming President, and have a role model that gave evidence to that. Well, my feeling is, Mr. Obama is not the right person for this. Yeah, I think the man is actually a socialist at heart, and this scares the hell out of me. I feel he carries certain emotional grudges from childhood (justified or not) that he wants to “right”……
Its probably too little too late, but I do hold out some hope, given that Mr. McCain seems to be making some ground up in the past week…thanks in large part to the electorate really taking a closer look at Mr. Obama….

As the election draws near, this American (living offshore in Cebu, Philippines) is getting more and more uneasy. Im GOP, although never was McCain’s biggest fan, that said, when I go to our Consulate office tomorrow to cast my vote, it will be with 100% conviction I vote for Mr. McCain. I am now convinced Mr. Obama would be damaging to our republic. Being offshore, I have the benefit of not being barraged by campaign ads, and shape my opinion solely from the candidates words themselves. Hearted by poll numbers, the “masks” have come off, and the true colors (no pun intended) are starting to show. Earlier, I had resigned myself to the notion that at least if Mr. Obama won, it would go along way in reshaping the culture, and healing historical wounds. A young black child could actually dream of one day becoming President, and have a role model that gave evidence to that. Well, my feeling is, Mr. Obama is not the right person for this. Yeah, I think the man is actually a socialist at heart, and this scares the hell out of me. I feel he carries certain emotional grudges from childhood (justified or not) that he wants to “right”……
Its probably too little too late, but I do hold out some hope, given that Mr. McCain seems to be making some ground up in the past week…thanks in large part to the electorate really taking a closer look at Mr. Obama….

Boy, Obama can sure speak out of both sides of his mouth…trying to appeal to the evangelical vote and the gay community at the same time. Clever.
God doesn’t make mistakes, if Obama wins it will be because he fooled more of the people all of the time.

Note the percentage of Obama supporters with something nasty to say about McCain, Republicans, or just those who disagree with them. They attack commenters who make valid points, not with anything of substance but only ad hominem and bile. There is a real disconnect between the fluffy message of hope and their thoughts and actions. And they make these comments to avoid dealing with the issue raised in the article, which is that Obama takes no real stands on anything. He is a cipher, and deftly constructs answers so that the willing, naive, or gullible, can project whatever they want onto him. The man says he is bipartisan but never really works or votes against his party line. You can go through all the issues and find him mouthing support for both sides, sometimes in the same sentence. Here he is again saying how he is against gay marriage but hey he’s against a referendum that is against gay marriage. This pattern is also visible in his proclivity to vote “Present”. He is a cold, calculating manipulator. The scary thing is that so many people are so emotionally invested in him that they are willing to live with giant cognitive dissonance. They will support him no matter how obvious it is that he should not be President. Perfect example, Obama supporter says “Oh that Sarah Palin she is too inexperienced to be President!”

Note the percentage of Obama supporters with something nasty to say about McCain
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Wow another republican martyr. Hey, why not carve a “B” in your face like Ashley Todd. She at least took one for the team. LOL!

What’s so hard to understand? He doesn’t think this is an issue that is worth changing a constitution for. That doesn’t mean he supports gay marriage. I guess that’s too complicated for Republicans to follow. Not surprising, since these are the same people who would probably vote for Bush again if he were running on Tuesday.

Sometimes a foreigner sees us more accurately than we see ourselves.
From the British author Melanie Phillips, writing in The Spectator (UK):
“You have to pinch yourself—a Marxist radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshiped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported a nexus comprising black power anti-white racists, Jew haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists, and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently, it’s considered impolite to say so.”

You people should be on the stage. The country would fare equally well under Obama or McCain. The nation has real problems and we should be working on solutions not character assassination. Sometimes your candidate wins and sometimes your candidate loses. How about a little sportsmanship you whiny little sore losers? And stop listening to televised news and talk radio. Pick up a great national newspaper and get your news there. Measured, thoughtful reportage.

“I voted for the measure before I voted against it”…that sounds familiar..

>>>Sen. Obama, however, insists that he has “a righteous wind behind our backs.”<<< A "righteous" wind is still wind.

Too bad the campaign is about to end. The longer we wait, the more we (finally!) learn about Obama. It’s beyond me how anyone can vote for a presidential candidate whose claim to fame is being a disruptive community activist and a short term senator who is greatly unappreciated by a majority of citizens from his own state of Illinois. We know he is guilty of the following: wants to bankrupt the coal industry; wants to change the Constitution of the United States; wants to take over our 401K’s; wants to ‘change’ the welfare programs already in place; wants to give social security to illegals…including his aunt, no doubt; wants to rid his campaign of news writers who don’t support him; wants to refuse interviews with broadcasters who ask the wrong questions; wants to ‘change’ the world; wants to increase our taxes; wants to reduce military spending by 25%; wants to make those who disagree with him feel guilty; wants to be associated with and be like questionable people such as Aryes, Wright, Ferrican; wants to let his family members live poor lives; and on and on. And how come we have to show our birth certificate to get drivers licenses? His is ‘sealed’! I can’t imagine Obama’s painting hanging alongside George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, or Thomas Jefferson, just to name a few. None of the nationally-respected financial analysts have endorsed him. It’s beyond me why anyone would vote for such a questionable, far-left liberal. Dear God help us, please!

This is not THE headline! The headline is:
Obama willl bankrupt the coal industry”
Video at http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
Scroll down for the video
Ok, WV, KY, Pa, are you ready to lose your job? No coal, put the ban back on drilling for oil, per Pelosi……..then no economy!

He has mezmerized the youth because of their lack of education in history and politics. I wish they wouldn’t vote if they don’t know our history lessons and don’t know the workings of government. They are going to be so sorry years from now when they want a family and are trying to build a career. They will wish they weren’t so easily led by a charismatic activist that wants to take away from America instead of build up America at this crucial time of our history.

Obama is really nothing more than a Pied Piper, leading a child-like populace that has dumbed down so much it has lost its ability to think analytically and critically. And we all know how well that story turned out…

What’s so hard to understand? He doesn’t think this is an issue that is worth changing a constitution for. That doesn’t mean he supports gay marriage. I guess that’s too complicated for Republicans to follow. Not surprising, since these are the same people who would probably vote for Bush again if he were running on Tuesday.

I’ve already voted for the McCain/Palin ticket! Pray that you all do the same. God bless ya’ll.

The truth of the matter is Obama has done a great job of slowy changing his posistions on many things most importantly taxes,nuclear power and the war in Iraq

The Piper Piper is leading us off the cliff. Obama will win, America will become a third world country, and our history as a world power will be Over. This will be the biggest fraud elected President inthe History of the Unitd States. Only hope is for the “real Americans” to wake up in the next four years. Our founding fathers are screaming from their graves. Sad.

>>>Usually, our constitutions expand liberties, they don’t contract them.”<<< Not always, constitutional law professor Obama. The income tax amendment sure didn't "expand our liberties." Nor did the amendment creating Prohibition. No one can now run more than twice for the office of president, and only natural citizens 35 and over can run for president. Obama favors gun laws, which will constrict our 2nd Amendment "liberties." And Roe v. Wade certainly didn't "expand the liberties" of the unborn. Citizens of states have the right to expand or restrict so-called "liberties" in any manner they see fit, so long as it does not abridge the provisions of the federal constitution (the 14th amendment prevents that). So why can't certain states' populations define "marriage"? They define what a "minor" is, what a "disabled" person is, what a "father" is, and so on.

My eighty-five year old mother talked the other day about gay marriage. We live in rural Missouri and she uses old common sense – and she is voting for Obama………….
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/11/02/old-women-talk-politics/

If anyone needs any more proof that Obama is a charlatan you need look not farther than right here.
Obama always wants it both ways. He’s for nuclear energy, IF, A, B, and C happens, and then he quietly undermines A,B,and C from happening. Same thing with oil drilling, coal, abortion, and a host of other economic and social issues.
One last point: Obama has is backwards..It’s not Prop 8 that’s out of step with the Constitution, it’s liberal judges who undermine the democratic process and over rule the will of the people through the ballot box. We live in a democracy, there was a reason why the Founding Fathers made the judiciary branch the weakest of the three branches.
If Obama wins get used to you and your state legislative and congressional representatives voting on issues for nothing. because if the vote doesn’t go the liberal way they’ll get what they want through the courts.

In other words – he voted “present”. Does this guy take a principled stand on ANYTHING ?

I am in no way an Obama supporter but in this case agree with his stance even though I’m sure that it is for different reasons. The US Constitution dictates that anything not covered by the Constitution is returned to the individual states for them to decide for themselves. Since the US Constitution has nothing to say on the subject, this is exactly what is happening in California. I only hope that Mr. Obama will begin to apply this same reasoning to the thousand other topics not covered by our Constitution that for some reason he believes DOES need to be addressed at a federal level. Somehow I doubt he will.

Hey JR put you Obama paycheck away and stop screwing with peoples comments. These are real people who can see and read the truth about Obama. Obama will destroy our country and rebuild it in his own distorted Marxist vision. McCain has always reached across party lines and unified bot parties. Remember the gang of fourteen or the immigration bill. These were all bipartisan. Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the rest of that bunch are only looking at a one party system. Obama will be real bad for our nation, real bad. If only your memory were not so tainted by the Lord Messiah Bore Rock Obama you would know it. Give him back the paycheck and move to the right JR. Obama is not the Messiah.

Mccain served more time in a POW prison then Obama has in the US senate. I’m voting for Mccain tomorrow because he’s paid his dues and has walked the talk.
No one will hire me for my speeches…they’ll always ask for my past history of work and deeds and experience so why would I vote to hand over my precious country to a man who has zero record on taking a principled stand or implemented important changes? Why would I vote when he has taking both sides of so many positions that i don’t really know if he’s an extreme leftist or an extrem right? Sounds like he’ll say anything to pacify anyone in order to win…..sad really!

I am looking for a “Statesman” and not a “politician”. McCain will tell you where he stands,unfortunately on the wrong side. Obama talks about; “Usually, our constitutions expand liberties, they don’t contract them,” he added. He does not mean “THE CONSTITUTION”. If you go back 2 years ago in an interview with him, he speaks about how it needs to be revised and how it has hurt “the people in his voters district and it needed to be changed”. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. He is slippery. Sorry, I would never vote for either. Third party. They at least stand for what they believe in. They are not looking for power. Ayn Rand had it right.

When will people wake up and see the hypocrisy when Barak Obama opens his mouth?
He says “no one is pro-abortion” yet he also has said that the FIRST THING he will do in office is sign the Freedom of Choice Act, which would END all CURRENT restrictions on abortion, including bringing back partial birth abortion, a procedure NO ONE supports!
Now he says opposes same sex marriage, BUT IN THE SAME BREATH supports it by opposing those who oppose it.
How forked tongue can one person be? And how is it possible people are FALLING FOR IT!?
Were it not for the economy, Obama looses in a landslide. How can some narcissistic young man who has never done anything except travel an easy path to success be beating John McCain, a certified war hero who has suffered so much for our nation!?

I hope when all these democrats and these liberal news Organizations get this black man elected. That the White American People will have finally paid there Debt to the black community for Slavery that happened over 300 years ago. Now all our consens will be Clean.

cathguy you absolutely said it. I have been saying that exact thing for so long. Separation of church and state! so simple

I am working the polls on tomorrow and just hope that I can survive the masses of people. But it is a pleasure to participate in this historic moment.
Many postings are so vile. The personal attacks make me cringe to think that our country has become so divided.
I voted for McCain. And my reasons are many. But I thoroughly understand the pull to vote for Senator Obama if you are a Black person (as I AM)you desperately want things to change.
It is tough just living in an environment of job cuts, national debt, a war, global warming, atheists, gay marriage, abortion, rebellious children, etc. BUT suppose you add to this the fact that ALL your life you have been judged on the basis of your color. Suppose you have a long litany of slights and hurts, on the job, at church, everywhere!! If you are a woman, add to this situation that the idea of beauty is far from anything you can achieve with dark skin and nappy hair. Suppose you know that you could work TWICE as hard and be TWICE as smart but you would never get judged based on your performance. AND if you were promoted, many will say it is only because you are Black. Suppose you have children and they are boys and the statistics are that your 16 year old son would be more than likely to be stopped by police simply because of his color. And even if he were doing normal things as a teenager, you still worried that he would act as a normal teenager and say the wrong thing to the wrong policeman. Suppose even though you love the Lord and want to serve Him, that even in tongue talking churches you are still judged as being that Black woman, not as a woman with a name and as a child of God. How much stress would you have? How difficult would it be to truly be forgiving KNOWING that your actions would not increase your income, change how society viewed you, etc. So, you paint a smile on your face but you have some hardness of heart because of these hurts.
It is difficult being Black in America and it is hard to lay all of this aside and just look at the issues. After all, when you look at the issues you have all of the garbage of the last 8 years and the negative news reports to erase from your memory. President Bush has been painted as a demon. He has had poor advisors who have not urged him to be more acceptable even to conservative Black Christians. It was as if this group did not exist. THEN…..we are presented the opportunity to vote for a charismatic Black man. He looks good, talks of lifting up the plight of African Americans and ALL people. He says that he can cause change to come. What do you do as a Christian?
Many Blacks, including conservative Christians, feel that it is hard to trust God and vote for another Republican because God has not come through in creating a better environment using a professed Christian in Pres. Bush. He did not come through in recognizing the value of Black lives that were lost in Hurricane Katrina. He did not come through in stopping much of the increased discrimination that has occurred over the last 8 years even as we were led by a Christian. Many Blacks felt and feel marginalized. What do you do when you feel that God has not come through? You take matters in your own hands. You seize the opportunity to vote history because the past has not helped you to the degree that you had hoped.
Today’s environment is ripe for many to develop a lack of hope and trust in God. It is difficult to lay aside so many deep seated emotions and to look at the issues objectively. It is hard to even trust your spiritual radar if you feel that that radar was wrong in voting for Pres. Bush. The only way to vote would be to pray in the Holy Spirit and to be willing to listen with your spirit and not your soul. But that may require giving up certain rights to vote for a Black man and many don’t want to take that chance. Many people want to control their destiny. They do not feel that hard work will pay off so they give up and use their minds to MAKE things happen. Voting for Senator Obama is a vote to MAKE change happen that will directly benefit individuals. Nevermind that that vote might be selling our souls and turning our backs on founding principles.

cathguy – it is ironic that a sour economy is helping Obama. We believed the economy was bad when gas prices were high, the dollar was worthless and inflation was up. Now gas prices are low, the dollar has tripled and inflation has decreased due to the mortgage crisis…and we’re allowing those on wall street and those who have stock in bad loans to tell us that we’re suffering. How many economists have to spell this out before it rings to voters? If Obama enacts his economic policies, we’ll lose MILLIONS of jobs. MILLIONS OF JOBS.

“Present.”

Oh come on!
Obama is brilliant. He says just what needs to be said to fit the moment. This is the sign of political brilliance. Be open-minded people. Vote for the guy who we can project our hopes and dreams onto. Vote for Obama!

Typical Obama doublespeak. He can’t take a stand on anything. How many times did he vote present as a senator in his brief tenure? (answer: 130 times)
His comment on the constitution expanding of freedoms is absurd. Why not just toss the constitution and then we can all do whatever we want?

The federal government should not regulate marriage in any way. There is no Constitutional basis for it. The mere idea that you need a marriage license – i.e. permission from Big Brother – to tie the knot is an abomination.

Why is it so hard to understand Obama’s position? He believes marriage is between a man and a woman and believes taking away rights is un-American.
Just because HE thinks marriage is between man and and a woman doesn’t mean he’s willing to make a law forbidding gay marriage.
Why is that so hard to comprehend? It’s how most people feel!

The way of the Liberal, sophistry and double speak.

Very dangerous when the Hussein supporters but all this faith, hope and trust into a politician. It is like watching some third world country. We should never put that much hope in a politician. It will destroy this very nation.
Put your faith and hope in God.
And vote for someone who has experienced real service and love for country like McCain. Not a fraud like Obama.
Vote McCain. A tried and trusted real American

Did anyone notice in one of the debates when Obama was making his spiel about taking care of others, he used the phrase “I am my SISTER’S keeper” instead of the traditional, “I am my brother’s keeper”….hmmmm, wonder why?

I now know why the gays are behind BO, They’re use to getting the shaft!
Keep in mind you voted for change two years ago and elected the Dems to power.
Let’s see: Barney Frank- Gay lover with Fannie Mae
Rangle (Heads our Tax comittee, but has failed to pay his patriotic share)
Pelosi- just plain nuts!
Good luck with your new choice.

Obama is in bed w/ insurance companies – that’s why he doesn’t want to ‘share the wealth’ by enabling gay marriage. If all of a sudden you doubled the number of people who can draw on a health insurance account without first raising rates – the insurance company is screwed. Obama has insurance money in his back pocket, and is betting for them – not gays.

Just remember what his mentor rev wright sayed.He has to say what will get him elected he is running for office I am a Reverend.

Obama is nothing but half truths, lies, and associate to VERY questionable people. How does one gain experience by doing NOTHING? Check his record people, stop drinking the kool-aid and look at the facts and make your own decisions!

The last laugh will be when the lefties get handed their just desserts by “The One”. He has already told his staff to temper the enthusiasm of the Dumbocrats because he will NOT be able to deliver what he ‘promised’ within at least the first 1000 days.
Truth is, he will delay it longer, blame the repubs for it just to get a second term.
I will laugh as he renegs on campaign promise after campaign promise. The lefty libs will cry in their collective split milk!
Repubs rebound in 2010!

What fools ye Repugs be! Leave it to the “gotcha” media (totally in the tank for McCain) to mis-characterize the Obama stance on this issue. Only people with a low IQ would fail to appreciate a sensitive and nuanced approach to this divisive issue. Bravo Obama!

I am tired of the Gay community comparing homosexual behavior to that of being born Black prior to the civil rights movement in the 60s.
Proposition 8 does not discriminate against gays; it simply restores the meaning of marriage and protects it as an essential institution that has benefited mankind since the beginning of time. Every culture in the world understands that marriage is between a man and a woman.

I vote PRESENT!

It is unmistakably clear that Obama voters have never read Karl Marx’s “Communist Manifesto,” and don’t have a clue about how Castro came to power in Cuba and Adolf Hitler deceived/flattered the Germans into self-destruction.
If you’re inclined to call me a lot of stupid, derogatory names, save them for 2 years.
If Obama and his 9% approval rated congress haven’t done all of the following within 2 years, let me have it with both barrels.
1. Tax firearms and ammunition 500%. The next best thing to destroying the “right to bear arms.”
2. Disallow drilling offshore! He would prefer gasoline rationing…tighten the old belt…and squeeze the life right out of poor people who have to commute to work.
3. Impose carbon tax at the gas pump.
4. Bankrupt the economies of Wyoming, Virginia & W. Virginia with outrageous carbon taxes!
5. Establish a civillian police force (sounds like the Nazi Youth groups) to spy on its citizens and report them for violation of dozens of silly offenses…improperly inflated tires…thermostat settings that violate energy conservation laws, criticisms of Obama policies, etc. Otherwise known as a police state.
6. Give driver’s licenses to illegal aliens.
7. Legalize the 30 million plus that are already here.
8. Mandate Spanish as a second language. More than one language brought the Tower of Babel project to a screeching halt.
9. Tax Social Security benefits.
10. Continue to lower tax ceiling from $250k to $150k to $50k. Do the math, how else is he going to finance the massive giveaways and redistribution of America’s wealth.
11. He will cannibalize our military strength and embolden our enemies. Watch for the escalation of terrorism. Say what you want about Bush. Since 9-11 we haven’t had a terrorist attach on our own soil. I don’t think terrorists are shaking in their boots at the thought of an Obama presidency. In fact, just the opposite, they hope he wins!
Our enemies will attack us to reinforce their beliefs that Obama is a coward, one who believes that talking diplomatically to a snake will prevent him from unleashing his poisonous venom into your veins. Instead of fighting back he will negotitate “peace” with the enemy that will rob us of our sovereignty and turn the military into “peace keepers” and possibly make our own military hostile to US citizens.
12. Look for wage and price freezes like his no-so-brilliant predecessor Jimmy Carter. I remember 17% interest rates and a disastrous economy. BTW, prosperity is the biggest boon to the poor, the government has more tax revenues. What do you suppose happens to tax revenues in hard times?
He will tax the internet.
He will raise gasoline taxes.
Don’t be surprised to see a national sales tax. Gotta finance all those promised give-a-ways.
He will raise capital gains taxes.
He will raise inheritance taxes.
He will raise estate taxes. Why will he have some many sources of increased taxes? The economy will tank…average household income will dive..as will tax revenues and in order to finance his new society, he will tax everything we consume.
We don’t need “change.” We need congressmen and a president with vision. Where have they been for 50 years?

Here’s obama voting present again…he’s desperate and has no character, in other words, a democrat!!!

So what else is new!. After almost two years of flip flopping on his campaign promises, can you believe anything he says. What has happened to the American people?, Obama is a liar and has proved that time and time again. He belonged to a racist church, associates with radical anti-american people and the majority of America want him to become a world leader.
People who believe in God better start reading the Revelation. It spells out what is about to happen on November 5th.

Hopefully Obama will become President. And then all of the pitchfork and torch wielding hate-mongers and social terrorists who are against him will decide to leave the country. Finally, our country will be able to get back to being peaceful, respectful, tolerant and loving, the way Jesus commanded.

This is our country “ONE NATION UNDER GOD” I have heard that Obama will (if elected) take his oath of office on the Caran not the bible. He will not salute our flag, he wont even don an american flag. And he wants to be THE PRESIDENT OF OUR “UNITED STATES” OF “AMERICA”. In your own speach you quoted in my “Musselm faith” I would like to tell you where to go and I dont mean the white house. McCain / Palin is the best team we have going. Palin was one heck of a choice for V.P. that is one very very smart woman. Biden is a crook in an expensive suit. Come on all lets get smart and stop trying to make HISTORY by electing a black president and lets vote for the best team…. MCCAIN / PALIN FOR 2008

>>>If obama does get elected, and he takes the oath of office, and he swears to united this nation “under God” I’m sure his response will be “maybe”!!!<<< Since Obama and his followers apparently believe he IS God, I suppose when he is asked to uphold the Constitution "so help you God", his answer will be "Present!"

MTV should just stick to videos like they used to.
As for you Obama supporters, why would you want another inexperienced dope in the White House. Bush showed us what happens when we elect an inexperienced dope.
We need experience. We need McCain!

So he went to Hawaii to “seal” the deal on his birth certificate? Think he paid somebody off? So poor granny wasn’t on her deathbed? But that sure played well in the press didn’t it? And all his lemmings believed that he went to see his beloved Granny who he affectionately calls “Toot”. Guess there is an idiot born every minute that eventually gets to vote.

People,all he’s saying is that HE personally doesnt agree with GAY marriage. BUT if ITS IN A STATE’S LAW he will NOT INTERFERE with it.
He is RESPECTING other peoples decisions…thats what has been lacking in the US.
Hes a constitutional lawyer..REMEMBER??

You’re right. His Grandmother wasn’t really sick. He just went to Hawaii to hide some incriminating photographs of his gay lover…a Palestinian Al Qaeda supporter.
It’s all explained right here: http://tinyurl.com/6jb7l6

Hey Keith, believe it or not, people are not just giving to BO’s campaign, but they are actually paying the BO campaign centers for their signs that they’re putting in their yards. I know that for a fact because my neighbors told us they were charged $7.00 for their sign. How stupid are they for paying it. I don’t know about anybody else, but I was given my McCain/Palin sign for nothing. Just goes to show, BO is willing to charge you $7.00 for your support, he’ll just tax the heck out of you later. I just wish these poor misguided people would stop drinking the red Kool-Aid, it seriously will kill them.

Obama is going to put the nations coal industry out of business and that means a loss of thousands of job. The Coal Association of Ohio says this about Obama and his drones…
“It’s evident that this campaign has been pandering in states like Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Indiana and Pennsylvania to attempt to generate votes from coal supporters, while keeping his true agenda hidden from the state’s voters.
“Senator Obama has revealed himself to be nothing more than a short- sighted, inexperienced politician willing to say anything to get a vote. But today, the nation’s coal industry and those who support it have a better understanding of his true mission, to ‘bankrupt’ our industry, put tens of thousands out of work and cause unprecedented increases in electricity prices.

Why isn’t the press and ABC screaming “the news” about Obama’s San Francisco Cronicle interview where he describes how the Coal Industry as we know it will bankrupt iself under his leadership. LISTEN TO HIM…you can get details on this website “buried” under the link for the latest Palin rally in Ohio. FOX NEWS IS COVERING IT ON TV WHERE YOU CAN HEAR IT IN BARAK’s OWN WORDS. You msut hear this before voting tomorrow to be totally informed!!

LOL…on election day he did not come to the office,,,that’s what happen!
He is allergic to a button.
He will never press the button.
oh,,,come on ,,,if he did it, Ellen and her fans will not vote for him.
He has to wait until the election over.

why is it that Obama claims to be for the innocent, yet from his comments above, would clearly be happy with gays having equal rights to adoption of kids, thereby legally guaranteeing no father or mother for adopted babies (which would happen if gays are allowed to be considered married, as they would be seen as equal for adoption). I guess given he would prefer to see unwanted kids, killed anyway, he probably sees no need for adoption.
Where go you idiots get this stuff?

Obama does not support the same sex marriage? That is a LIE. Obama even CONGRATULATED GAY COUPLE.
Obama’s position on MANY ISSUES are the JUST OPPOSITE OF CHRISTIAN VALUE.
Obama is the MOST LIBERAL senator who supports GAY MARRIAGE, TAX FUNDING for ABORTION, human CLONING, JUDICAL ACTIVISM. GAY PRIDE CELEBRATION, and HOMOSEXUAL EDUCATION.
Obama also is THE MOST EXTREME PRO-ABORTION candidate and is RATED 100% in the rating of NARAL, Pro-abortion group
Obama, as a Illinois state senator, VOTED FOUR times AGAINST providing IMMEDIATE medical care to NEW BORN-ALIVE BABIES, LETTING THEM DIE.
Obama also supports PARTIAL BIRTH abortion, a GROUSOME procedure without ANASTASIA

God Bless him Present again.
US citizenship of mom and him given up when he was adopted by Indonesian Lolo Soetoro geologist working for Pakistan gov and later Exxon Mobil Oil.
Mother worked for Asian Bank IFAD Quebec ties.
He lists no aliases on Law application as Barry Soetoro while attending Occidental 2 year college
before Harvard.
Grandmother who died Nov 3 absentee ballot will count. Our prayers are with him during this grief.
Disabled Kenyan Aunt living illegally in Boston Public Housing campaign contributions will not.

Birth Certificate is Computer Generated and there were no computers doing this in 1961
Original records still not coherently presented by the next President to the American people.

Obama tries to have it both ways.
He says he’ll give 95% of Americans a tax cut — even though the president has no authority to do so. He also says he’ll let the Bush tax cut expire.
He says he’s against same-sex marriage. Then he says he’s against California’s Prop. 8.
C’mon Obama, which side of the fence are you playing. You can’t have it both ways.

Obama’s two-faced views about gay marriage and abortion notwithstanding…
it is done. This self-centered, selfish,
agnostic culture that we live in has voted in the most liberal person in the US Senate.
I have the same sickened feeling I had
when that murderer OJ Simpson was acquited…..only worse.
We are in for the worst 4yrs of our lives.

I have to admit that statement about gay marriages left a bad taste in my month about Obama. But it’s all politics!!!
Gay people are people first. They love and hate the same as straight people. They cant help who they love. Why not let them marry who they want. Stop boxing people in!!! We are all people first. As long as they pay their taxes and theyre happy leave them alone.
As far as Obama go stop dogging the man out!!! Do you know how much pressure this man is under. He made it to the top, stop hating. He hasnt even got into office yet, but people are judging him. He is a family man, a smart man, and he has people telling him what he should or should not say. He is never going to please everyone.

All running say what they have to say to get elected.
All don’t do what they say their going to do.
I don’t agree with everything anyone of them say. I pray about it.