Obama Pledges to Secure 2.5 Million More Jobs by 2011
With the nation suffering through an “economic crisis of historic proportions”, President-elect Barack Obama Saturday outlined an economic plan to save or create 2.5 million more jobs in his first two years in the Oval Office, a plan more even ambitious than what he promised as a candidate.
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In the Democratic weekly radio address – now complete with a video version on YouTube – Obama promoted “a plan big enough to meet the challenges we face that I intend to sign soon after taking office.”
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“We’ll be working out the details in the weeks ahead, but it will be a two-year, nationwide effort to jumpstart job creation in America and lay the foundation for a strong and growing economy,” said the President-elect. “We’ll put people back to work rebuilding our crumbling roads and bridges, modernizing schools that are failing our children, and building wind farms and solar panels; fuel-efficient cars and the alternative energy technologies that can free us from our dependence on foreign oil and keep our economy competitive in the years ahead.”
“These aren’t just steps to pull ourselves out of this immediate crisis,” he continued. “These are the long-term investments in our economic future that have been ignored for far too long. And they represent an early down payment on the type of reform my Administration will bring to Washington – a government that spends wisely, focuses on what works, and puts the public interest ahead of the same special interests that have come to dominate our politics.”
With its goal of 2.5 million jobs by January of 2011, Obama’s plan is a bigger one than he has discussed before.
The decision to unveil the plan this Saturday is further evidence of the pressure Obama feels to outline action he will take on the economy despite his mantra that the nation has only one president at a time.
Just the day before, the Dow Jones jumped almost 500 points upon the news that Obama was likely to appoint the president of the New York Federal Reserve, Timothy Geithner, as his Treasury Secretary, to replace Hank Paulson.
It was also learned Friday that the leading contender to become Commerce Secretary is New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, once a former rival of Obama’s in the Democratic primary, like Vice President-elect Joe Biden and Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, who is on track to become Secretary of State.
The unveiling of Obama’s new economic team is expected mid-day Monday in Chicago, but the Illinois lawmaker cautioned that righting the nation’s economic ship won’t be easy.
“There are no quick or easy fixes to this crisis, which has been many years in the making, and it’s likely to get worse before it gets better,” Obama warned. “But January 20th is our chance to begin anew – with a new direction, new ideas, and new reforms that will create jobs and fuel long-term economic growth.”
– Jake Tapper and Matt Jaffe
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Posted by: gbolee | November 22, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Again, President-elect Obama does not disappoint me. His focus is in the right places and his vision and determination are inspiring. I hope that the American people of all parties will get behind this initiative and come together for the true good of our great nation, setting aside the bickering and artificial divisions of recent months, which I believe were mostly incited by political party aspirations and tactics. I want to see America strong again, and I want to see our dependence on foreign oil gone forever. Most of all, I want my grandchildren to have a world they can live and work in the way I have had, not an impoverished wasteland, which is what they will inherit if we don’t make real changes now.
Posted by: iamwomaninMI | November 22, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Maybe it’s rethoric, but there is less incentive now to do just that now that he has been elected president. As a US citizen I am impressed to what he has already accomplished: among other things, to bring people together who once were his rivals. Good job! Keep up the good work. Still he needs to prove himself, but at least there is confidence which is what this country currently needs in this crisis.
Posted by: One | November 22, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Hi gbolee
I will give you one, think of an idea that can really change lives.
Posted by: kho lee | November 22, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Sounds like a rework of FDR’s New Deal to me! Why is it that he cannot have an original thought? Demos are forever plagiarizing ideas.
Posted by: Irnotu | November 22, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Crisis have kick us our live.I lost my job last month. Now i searching for new job. Now Im full time blogger. Obama keep your promise. Make sure you recover the economy and US people.
Posted by: Jobhunter | November 22, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Wonderful. Obama is going to blow a trillion dollars we don’t have, meaning we have to borrow more money from hostile countries, so he can grow the size of government in the name of creating jobs. We don’t need more government leeches sucking on taxpayers money.
Posted by: Disappointed | November 22, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Why should we NOT spend money on our country when we have spent and are spending trillions on the war in Iraq? Why are we paying for the sins of others, when our own sons are dying?? Charity begins at home, and we should support all these efforts to help ourselves first instead of trying to flush away all that money in foreign distant lands without just cause.
Posted by: Karen | November 22, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Hey wait 2.5 million jobs? we are still waiting for the heavens to open and Celestial Angels singing praise to Obama…
Posted by: Mark | November 22, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Disappointed writes, “Obama is going to blow a trillion dollars we don’t have, meaning we have to borrow more money from hostile countries, so he can grow the size of government in the name of creating jobs.”
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Folks like Disappointed are amazing. Whining about money that HASN’T been spent while being absolutely SILENT when Republicans not only WASTE trillions on the Iraqi war but BORROW money from foreign countries so they can continue to offer tax breaks for the corporations and wealthy.
You’re Disappointed? Spare us all THAT nonsense. (lol)
Posted by: Dems | November 22, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Dems needs a class in accounting 101. Corporations do not pay taxes – they collect them. Taxes are a business expense and added to the cost of the item just like materials. Cutting taxes to corporations is not a loophole, it makes our products competitive in price thus creating jobs. We have the highest corporate taxes in the world and we wonder why businesses leave the country. And as for the government “creating jobs” we will look like thesoviet union with everyone working for the government and nothing getting done. Wonderful. Dems abd Obama are just visionaries.
Posted by: Disappointed | November 22, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Thank you, Irnotu, for proving me right. I just knew someone was going to complain that this was another version of FDR’s New Deal. SO WHAT? You can’t deny that the New Deal worked. Why reinvent the wheel? Can you point to anything in this plan that’s bad, or is your sole complaint that Obama didn’t come up with a completely new and unique idea? In other words, do you have a problem with the policy or the man making the policy? It’s politics-as-usual that’s gotten us here, how about we all quit crying over each other’s personal issues and start dealing with things that matter, eh?
Posted by: Bri | November 22, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Bring the troops home spend that money HERE!!! And maybe this economy would recover BHO!!! Employing people to spy on their neighbors in the name of the enviroment is just as bad as Bush getting us to do the same over a persons religion or ethnicity!!!
Posted by: please! | November 22, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Thank God the end of the neocon era is at hand, and Barack Obama will be at the helm of the Nation…we may yet survive!
Posted by: karen | November 22, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
It’s easy to tear down Obama – but at least he’s making an effort to do something. There’s been no one running the helm of our economic ship for some time now. Short of investing in the nation’s future – what’s an alternative plan. It’s great someone is talking about a vision of our country two years from now. I don’t remember anyone speaking about the future of the average American over the last eight years – I guess it was just supposed to happen.
Posted by: jburke | November 22, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
The country, indeed the world, benefits from the newfound diversity in the highest levels of government: an African American President-elect, and the prospect of an African American Attorney General and female Secretary of Homeland Security. This is indeed a new and proud era for diversity. The great problems of our nation, indeed the world, require the full inclusion of all citizens who are prepared and qualified to help bring about resolution.
Posted by: Sidney Thurgood | November 22, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
its amazing ,but for once the american voter made the right choice.
GO OBAMA !!
Posted by: bah | November 22, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
I want jobs for my 4 kids currently underemployed or oversees because there is no work here. I want insurance for myself because as a retired RN I don’t have any! And I DON’T want FOCA passed. I want WOMEN and CHILDREN PROTECTED FROM VIOLENCE.I don’t want much–just a little peace in my old age.
Great-Gran in Mo.
Posted by: Mary Montgomery | November 22, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
any jobs created under his plan for 2yrs will be of the minimum-wage variety and nothing for us skilled-level workers to compete for.and at best this will not help much,this guy is grasping at straws,on this issue and after 2 yrs this economy will still be in the toilet,
Posted by: SC SUPERMAN | November 22, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
TGFO… thank God for Obama… a breath of fresh air.
I know how much hope Obama is bringing by the amount of whining by the intellectual Bush supporters.
Posted by: mr sleepy | November 22, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
We have a job shortage and we’re giving the jobs that Obama is describing to illegal immigrants. At least in California, Nevada, N. Mexico, Arizona and Texas. The overwhelming majority of workers building roads and new developments don’t speak English and Spanish is required.
We’ve had a major increase in illegal immigration since Obama started campaigning/pandering to immigrants promising them amnesty, increased wages and benefits, subsidized housing and free education. Bush did nothing to stop it either.
We have enough poor and unemployed citizens of our own. We can’t afford to add 25 million uneducated, poor immigrants at this time. They’re already costing taxpayers over $100 billion a year.
Posted by: kateincal | November 22, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
kateincalif
Sorry, you are not being truthful.
It has been reported by US and Mexican sources that all immigration is down, legal and illigal. There aren’t enough jobs in the US to come here for.
Many have actually gone home as the construction and manufacturing industries have folded
.
Posted by: mr sleepy | November 22, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
sc superman , your job is outsourced because you want +$35/hr to do what someone else CAN DO for $2/hr ,in bangladesh.
dont blame obama for not making a job for you ,blame the companies who sent and continue to send your kind of job overseas to get bigger profits.
he at least has a plan, what plan (other than unlimited/unchecked corporate welfare via taxbreaks loopholes and lately ,taxpayer funded bailouts ) did the republicans offer for the last 30 years?
this guy has more vision than anyone since jfk , i like his style immensely already.
Posted by: bah | November 22, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Obama has no record of ever creating any kind of employment opportunites in his career, or any jobs in the private sector for that matter. Actually, he has no record of any accomplishments except public speaking and campaigning. This should be interesting. I’m afraid our new cult leader figure is going to be nothing but an empty suit that will rely heavily on the Clintons.
Posted by: MK | November 22, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
SC Superman
any jobs created under his plan for 2yrs will be of the minimum-wage variety and nothing for us skilled-level workers to compete for.and at best this will not help much,this guy is grasping at straws,on this issue and after 2 yrs this economy will still be in the toilet,
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Well… do you think you are going to be better off if you leave Bush in office?
What is your skilled solution?
Posted by: mr sleepy | November 22, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Yes, our Dearest Greatest Smartest Changest Leader.
Yes, you can, before you lose 4 million auto workers and suppliers for doing nothing, saying nothing, and leaving Illinois half represented in the Senate.
Posted by: fat cat | November 22, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
GREAT GRAN IN MO : any jobs this guy creates are going to be of the garden variety [meaning minimum wage type jobs andthis not going to help the economy one little bit they need to focus on lon term projects that pay a decent wage.but this must be the farthest thing from their minds at this point. this guy is going to raise taxes on everyone and it will not be long in happening he lies through his teeth and i dont trust him one little bit.:
Posted by: SC SUPERMAN | November 22, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
SC SUPERMAN: “any jobs created under his plan for 2yrs will be of the minimum-wage variety and nothing for us skilled-level workers to compete for.”
Nonsense. Infrastructure maintenance and improvement produces skilled jobs ranging from welders to engineers. And you cannot offshore replacing an interstate bridge, installing wind turbines, or maintaining a solar concentrator plant (which runs off of skilled, local maintenance labor almost as much as the sun). If you have been paying any attention you would note he’s not talking about building trails in the national parks, he’s talking about a jobs program that will leave behind the Hoover dams and interstate road system for the next generation.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 22, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Its so nice to have a grown up in the oval office. I am very optimistic about our future. You know Obama has his detractors worried when they’ve been reduced to calling him “drug addicted” when our current president is the only one who has been arrested for being under the influence. WE MADE A GOOD CHOICE AMERICA!!!
Posted by: nina | November 22, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
what the gov’t needs to do…give
tax credits to purchasers of US made
automobiles. Higher credits for more fuel efficent cars.. IMHO.
Posted by: wayne skiles | November 22, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
I know how much hope Obama is bringing by the amount of whining by the intellectual Bush supporters.
Posted by: mr sleepy | Nov 22, 2008 3:24:59 PM
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I sell Hope here.
1 cent per Hope. Any takers?
Make a wish, and I’ll give you a Hope for 1c
Posted by: expecting | November 22, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
MK: ” Actually, he has no record of any accomplishments except public speaking and campaigning.”
Right. Except for those laws he personally wrote and lobbied hard to get passed that are on the books in IL right now (I like the requirement that police videotape interrogations and confessions in civil cases, and now they’ve seen how Obama implemented it, so do BOTH prosecutors and civil rights lawyers). I’ll ignore easy stuff like the Lugar-Obama nuclear proliferation law on the federal books, that is small change compared to the legislating he did in IL.
Are you ignorant of Obama’s record (he deliberately did not run on it, a tactical decision in this era of soundbites) or honestly unimpressed by the laws he wrote and the body of the thousands of votes he cast (he voted “present” a fraction of the number of times that “Most Absent” McCain simply doesn’t show up to vote)?
Posted by: jhw539 | November 22, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
jhw539,
There were 100 US Senators, and there was only one who wrote exactly Zero legislation.
There are now 99 US Senators, and they all have written a legislation.
Posted by: expecting | November 22, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
This is foolishness. The economic prosperity of the last 20 yrs was based on borrowing money at all levels. When people and the government live beyond their means, the current situation will result. It is just stupid to think that spending more and taxing more are the answer to anything. I tell you the approach he is planning is a disaster and will ruin the US economy for the long haul. Borrowing money and not paying ti back got us in this mess and it has been going on for years. We have borrowed money to pay debts and then done it over and over. Obama’s solution of more of the same is just absurd.
Posted by: Brian | November 22, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
expecting :”There were 100 US Senators, and there was only one who wrote exactly Zero legislation.
There are now 99 US Senators, and they all have written a legislation.”
I’m sorry, I don’t listen to talk radio so you’ll need to actually present your full thought rather than speak in rightwing shorthand. I really don’t know what you’re talking about. You can go to the federal law books and see the Lugar-Obama signed into law in 2007. None of the senators running for President were active legislators during the campaign. I’m not sure if you’re just ignorant of the facts or if there is a laundry list of qualifiers that you’re leaving out that makes your post merely deceptive rather than lying.
I’ve already stated that I’m more impressed with Obama’s body of law work in IL. And, frankly, I like fewer laws. Passing useless feel good legislation like McCain’s finance reform (which he personally made a mockery of with his $30k+ per plate dinners to fund not his election, oh no he banned that practice, the money went to the “RNC Committee to Elect John McCain”) is a waste of time. Heck, I’d be really impressed by a legislator who started pruning back useless law.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 22, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Frank: “40% of americans don’t pay taxes”
Again with the rightwing shorthand. Here’s a hint: If you leave off all those carefully chosen qualifiers, you are LYING. You’re ignoring payroll tax. Property tax. Gas tax. Sales tax. State income tax. Assuming full application of income tax credits. Implicitly arguing for higher taxes on active military personnel, charitable workers overseas, etc.
Again, I will be happy when conservatives find a new home. There is no longer any place for an informed mind in the Republican Party of Ignorance.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 22, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Sounds like good ideas to me – and basically what he ran his campaign on. You’re getting what you voted for with Obama so far.
And by the way, all this criticism of Democratic ‘overspending’ . ..
Here’s how the Republicans ran the government (into the ground).
REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT
$421 Billion OVER BUDGET (2002)
$555 Billion OVER BUDGET (2003)
$596 Billion OVER BUDGET (2004)
$554 Billion OVER BUDGET (2005)
$574 Billion OVER BUDGET (2006)
This includes RECORD overspending.
At least “rebuilding our crumbling roads and bridges, modernizing schools that are failing our children, and building wind farms and solar panels; fuel-efficient cars and the alternative energy technologies that can free us from our dependence on foreign oil . . . ” sounds like a good focus for overspending.
Better than “lining the pockets of Bush and Cheney’s oil, banking and military/industrial family pals”. Can you say “Bush’s Saudi friends” boys and girls?
Posted by: pefros | November 22, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
I didn’t vote for Obama, but if he can make it work – more power to him. I am skeptical about it, though. Hillary Clinton is going to be dogged by her lying, disbarred, impeached husband. He will continue to embarrass her and this country if she becomes Secretary of State. One positive, this take her out of a future presidential nomination. Even if she ever did run again, she would be John McCain’s age by then.
Posted by: southern_conservative | November 22, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
When is Obama gonna start spreading that wealth around? I got bills to pay.
Posted by: evonaix | November 22, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
If you want to encourage job creation in the US, you could change the tax code to eliminate the deduction for salaries and replace it with a credit for each employee in the US plus an additional credit if you provide health care for your employees. That would make American workers more competitive with workers in other countries and get rid of the taxpayer subsidy for corporate executives’ multimillion dollar compensation packages.
Posted by: ahumbleopinion | November 22, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Watch and see, B.O. will give Americans the same kinds of jobs he created in Chicago….none.
Posted by: bo | November 22, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
It’s all talk until the action takes place but as a McCain supporter I will wait and see what happens before judging. The fact is he is our president come January so we should unite together for the common good of America and the working people.
Posted by: onedayatatime | November 22, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
evonaix:
send you bills to Bush and Cheney . ..
Here’s how the Republicans ran the government, and spent all your money.
REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT
$421 Billion OVER BUDGET (2002)
$555 Billion OVER BUDGET (2003)
$596 Billion OVER BUDGET (2004)
$554 Billion OVER BUDGET (2005)
$574 Billion OVER BUDGET (2006)
Thank God for those ‘conservatives’.
Posted by: pefros | November 22, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
I hate to tell everyone this but the $70 an hour UAW worker isn’t going to lower himself to a $15 an hour job with no benefits. So, more illegals will come across the border to fill these road jobs, construction jobs. Heck they rather collect welfare and food stamps and live in gov’t housing….
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
mariposa, you think President-elect Obama is getting ready to roll the tanks into Mexico? Get real.
Posted by: pefros | November 22, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
The president elect, is not incharge yet. Obma will not be president until Inauguration Day, January 20 2009, during the Inauguration President Swearing In Ceremony.
Until Jan 20 2009, It is GW Bush who is in Charge. And since GW Bush is still in charge, isn’t it interesting to see just how GW Bush and his Republican cronies handle the USA Economic crises.
Yep Since GW Bush is playing possum on the issue, GW will go down in history as the most Lame and irresponsible President ever.
Posted by: mere | November 22, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Pevros- you forgot to mention the last 2 years when the Democrats controlled the Congress. Over $500B each year. BY the time Obama and the Dems get done, the budget deficit will be triple what it is now. Obama is a loser and just more of the same. This stuff about ” change” was total nonsense and with his Clinton appointments and projected government spending, we now back to the future.
Posted by: Brian | November 22, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
Brian:
I’m all for the Democrats learning from the good example set by the Republicans.
Here’s how the Republicans ran the government.
REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT
$421 Billion OVER BUDGET (2002)
$555 Billion OVER BUDGET (2003)
$596 Billion OVER BUDGET (2004)
$554 Billion OVER BUDGET (2005)
$574 Billion OVER BUDGET (2006)
I think President-elect Obama’s plans deserve at least as much overspending if not more.
Don’t deny us – we watched the Republicans overspend for year after year – our turn now.
Posted by: pefros | November 22, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Again, this guys speaks like a parrot perched on a stick. The expectations are high and believe or not get ready for disappointment.His “change” cabinet are Clinton’s croonies including Hillary and some will have a hard look in Congress confirmations. Make no mistakes these new jobs are goverment created and temporary in nature.
Posted by: Frank | November 22, 2008, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
jhw539,
Tagging along has been a good way of getting credits by the missing Senator and in so doing you do not need to do much real work.
Do you know who were among the US Senators along with Nunn who went to the former USSR to secure nuclear materials from proliferation as as result of disintegration of that union?
It was twenty years of work in the making, but our Greatest Leader got the credit.
Our Greatest Leader also claimed to have cowritten a banking bill, only to be corrected by its author that our Greatest Leader contributed exactly Zero word, except his name.
Posted by: expecting | November 22, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Job creation? Jobs are created when there is a need for them, if Obama simply dropped some taxes on corporations, small businesses and people everywhere would this not spur economic growth which then the local and state governments could use to build infrastructures as they see fit? If people had more money in their pockets would they not go out, buy a car, pay their mortgages and debt on time and buy stuff that other people make? Obamas plans seem to either take money from one side and hand it over to someone else or have the government print more of it up which makes the dollars we earn eventually worth less.
Posted by: david | November 22, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
If it was so important to regulate the mortgage and loan industries – and if the Republicans were so committed to it – why didn’t the Republicans do it when they had control of the White House, the Congress and the Senate for SIX YEARS?
Posted by: pefros | November 22, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
david:
Where did the Republicans think this money was coming from? The moon?
REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT
$421 Billion OVER BUDGET (2002)
$555 Billion OVER BUDGET (2003)
$596 Billion OVER BUDGET (2004)
$554 Billion OVER BUDGET (2005)
$574 Billion OVER BUDGET (2006)
This includes RECORD overspending.
Posted by: pefros | November 22, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
jhw539,
My friend (I am no friend of McCain), no matter how desperate a situation you tell me you are in, I can spell a Hope for you. My friend, I will spare the 1c charge just for you (well, I am not doing a good business like this, keeping waiving fees for selling my Hope spell).
Posted by: expecting | November 22, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
max:
Republicans had control of White House AND CONGRESS for these years:
REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT
$421 Billion OVER BUDGET (2002)
$555 Billion OVER BUDGET (2003)
$596 Billion OVER BUDGET (2004)
$554 Billion OVER BUDGET (2005)
$574 Billion OVER BUDGET (2006)
Sorry, you can’t blame it on the Democrats when Republicans controlled Congress and White House.
Nice try though . ..
Posted by: pefros | November 22, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
I love how Obama makes promises of great successes for transforming America but doesn’t give any details. millions of new jobs, alternative energy, fuel efficient cars….It’s all smoke an mirrors. I’ll believe it when I see it.
Posted by: Joey | November 22, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
expecting: “It was twenty years of work in the making, but our Greatest Leader got the credit.”
Again, because Republicans seem to require repetition of very simple facts:
“Except for those laws he personally wrote and lobbied hard to get passed that are on the books in IL right now (I like the requirement that police videotape interrogations and confessions in civil cases, and now they’ve seen how Obama implemented it, so do BOTH prosecutors and civil rights lawyers). I’ll ignore easy stuff like the Lugar-Obama nuclear proliferation law on the federal books, that is small change compared to the legislating he did in IL.” -JHW
Someone stated: ” Actually, he has no record of any accomplishments except public speaking and campaigning.”
My reply to that is above. Using REALITY how can you agree with that statement in light of the actual laws Obama personally wrote and is on record as being responsible for the passage of well before he entered the spotlight?
Posted by: jhw539 | November 22, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
I DON’T CARE IF THE PAY WAS $15.00 PER HR. IT’S BETTER THAN $0.00 PER HR.!!!
I WANT A FREAKIN JOB!!!!
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | November 22, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Hey ABC! Where is the question mark after the headline?
Posted by: Damoclese | November 22, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
sisterdearest09, What keeps you from getting a job?
Posted by: Damoclese | November 22, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Foolish Americans are those who voted for McSame and still support the Republican policies that ran our economy into the ground..How foolish can people be to support something or someone that destroys our country. Heaven help us all and thank God for helping us to get rid of those Republicans..they are all rich and don’t care about middle class and poor Americans..good riddance! go away and stay away! Republicans make me sick!
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Hey Stanley, I thought it was the republicans that were filled with hate! Hmmm.. maybe the democrats are bigots and haters too.
Posted by: Damoclese | November 22, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Whats stupid is all the people who voted for this inexperienced slick politician from Chicago.
In Europe the call it socialism
In the US we call it welfare
Obama calls it change
Posted by: Bobby | November 22, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Congress appropriates money. All bills to spend money must originate in the House. The executive branch, which is under the direct control of the president, spends it. The GAO is a congressional agency that audits the executive branch to see if the money was properly spent. Aside from the GAO, which is an agency of Congress, and the court system, all government agencies, such as the military, are under presidential control.
From 2000-2008, a Republican Congress gave a Republican president authority to spend money, and the Republican president spent it.
Hence, the president does the actual spending. If the president says that Congress spends too much, he’s saying the equivalent of “the devil made me do it.” And in these last eight years of the unitary executive and one-party rule, where the presidency has defied the Republican courts and even the Republican Congress, that has been stronger and truer than ever.
Bush really is personally responsible for this mess.
Posted by: Ken | November 22, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Foolish Americans are those who voted for Obama and still support the Democrat policies that ran our economy into the ground..How foolish can people be to support something or someone that destroys our country. Heaven help us all to bear with 4 years of the same crooks like Frank and Dodd, Pelosi and reid and most of all the liar Obama!..they are all rich and don’t care about middle class and poor Americans..good riddance! go away and stay away! Liberal democrats make me sick!
Posted by: Badboy | November 22, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Bobby and Damoclese:
After 8 years of Bush and Cheney and Republican mismanagement of government, the people of the United States have a right to criticize and be angry.
Harshly criticizing President-elect Obama when he hasn’t even entered office nor implemented a single police is . .. presumptuous and dumb.
Posted by: pefros | November 22, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Obama is a good man with a good heart! I admired that man more when he decided against using the fireworks on election night to celebrate..I admired him more when he let bygones be bygones and forgave Joe(Judas)Lieberman which helped him keep the chairmanship for a powerful committee..I admired that man more when he forgave Palin for saying all those nasty,dirty lies about him..I admire him for reaching out to Hillary and Bill after they dogged him during the primaries..he did not say any unkind words about Hillary during the primaries..he stuck to discussing the issues..and people admired him for that..I admire the way he seeks counsel from people who are experts before making a decision(quite unlike our current president)..Obama is a good man who loves his country and wants to make a difference..If the Republicans don’t try to put blocks in his way..that man will turn this country around and may be the best president that we have ever had. Obama is a good man who don’t deal in hate and retribution and getting back at people who don’t like him..he believes in all Americans working together regardless of differences..What a man! If America support Obama and his policies then this country will turn around and be the beacon that it once was to this world. God bless Barack Obama and God bless these United States of America!
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Badboy,You are a reflector of other men’s thoughts..typical Republican..the polls suggested that most of McSames voters were uneducated and very rural..you fit the mold..Obama is president now and there is nothing you can do about it so take off your hood and crawl under the bush with the other Republicans..You damaged our country..10 billion dollars a month to keep the troops in Iraq…no investment in our country’s economy..why don’t you Republicans sit back and watch a real president operate! Obama is too brilliant for knuckleheads like you..go away..Please!
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
DAMOCLEASE:
HAD A JOB BUT WAS LAID OFF!!!
ECONOMY, HAVEN’T YOU HEARD!!!!
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | November 22, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Democlese, I am not a democrat..I am an Independent who voted for Obama because he is a brilliant,smart,articulate man who cares for this country and wants to make a difference in the lives of ordinary americans and everyone…I could not bring myself to vote for a man who owns nine houses and thirteen cars..such a man cannot understand what ordinary poor and middle class Americans are going through..Obama does..he worked his way through school and accepted a job as a community organizer(Republicans laughed at Community organizers during their so called convention)..Obama was offered law firm positions but he decided to work at the community and made a difference in the lives of ordinary people..now thats the kind of president I want…Rich Bush,Cheney and the others cannot identify with the problems the ordinary man is facing. Obama is a good man..and I know he would not take us into an unjustified war..where many of our young immpressionable men and women died..25,000 incapacitated and thousands came are experiencing post traumatic syndrome..this war has destroyed the fabric of our military..financially, socially,emotionally and otherwise..the guys that come home from Iraq and Afganistan are not the same..Are you Republicans who support the war cognitive of these facts? do you care? Are our veterans taken care of? Obama is a good man and wants to make a difference in the lives of everyone. God bless Barack Obama and God bless America. Thank you Lord for helping us get the rid of those Republicans..why a relief!
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
Republican policies are help the rich and hope the money will trickle down to the poor(voodoo economics) and war..Democrats policy is that of investing in the middle class and growing the economy and do not get involved in a war unless its absolutely necessary..no wonder the clinton years were prosperous and the Bush years have been a living hell for most Americans…Now we have will have a president who will invest in the middle class to grow the economy..invest in rebuilding America and creating jobs..invest in educating our youth..invest in energy..and turn this sinking ship around..Obama is a smart man and loves his country and will make a difference if the Republicans don’t play politics and try to put blocks in his way…Obama will be a great president! 54 million Americans and the rest of the world know that..I have never seen anything like this..the whole world is excited about this man and the changes that he and his brilliant cabinet are capable of making to impact the economy of our beloved country and by extension the whole world..as one foreigner told me “When America sneezes the whole world catches a cold”..The world is looking to America for leadership which was void for eight years..Obama understands the kind of leadership that America and the world are looking for and he will provide that leadership. Obama is a good man! God bless Barack Obama and God bless these United States of America!
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Re an above comment on U.S. sending jobs elsewhere. Au contraire. The USA is the world’s largest exporter…with 8 times the per capita exports of China. A barrier put up against imports means one put up against exports. Bush, although working on half a brain, is right when it comes to opposing trade barriers.
Good grief, that’s the first time I’ve supported Bush.
Posted by: Arnie | November 22, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
It’s time to ignore the negative people. Obama has done more in just getting elected (gave hope) than most people had for some time. They want attention and don’t waste your breath. Let these miserable people stick together. If they wanted McCain to win they should have done more. Remember what McCain said, Americans don’t like sore losers, so ignore them because they just want to drain you of your energy to focus on problems. We know we have problems and don’t need them to remind us. Let those in charge now work on solutions. IGNORE THEM. If we all ignore the haters they will only have eachother to remind themselves of what hasn’t worked. We are a step ahead. We already know what hasn’t worked and support Obama 100%. Bye haters
Posted by: zorra | November 22, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
All you Republicans who are hating on our president Elect Barack Obama..I have a song for you and your nation destroyers(Bush,Cheney,Rush,Hannity and the little lady on the view)..it is sung by Ray Charles “Hit the road jack, don’t you come back no more,no more, no more, no more,hit the road jack don’t you come back no more”. bye! Now lets invest in our country’s economy..I care about America first not Iraq or anywhere else..America jack! that’s what its all about..America first! Can you imagine what this country’s economy would have been like if the the billions wasted in Iraq was invested in our country’s economy? Think about it for a second! Obama will do just that! and if the Republicans don’t try to put blocks in his way for political purposes..that man will turn our beloved country around and may be the best president that we have ever had yet!. God bless Barack Obama and God bless the United States of America!
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Zorra, you are right! lets ignore the Republican nation destroyers and support Obama the nation builder! God bless Barack Obama and God bless America!
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Sisterdearest:
Everyone who didn’t vote for OBAMA PREDICTED that unemployment will go through the roof if OBAMA is elected as president. So this is no surprise at all!!!!
Just look at Obama’s economic policies!!! For those businesses planning during this year-end for the next 5 years, Obama’s economic policies scream UNEMPLOYMENT!!!
When people were gathering to see OBAMA, 100,000s of them, the non-Obama voters were joking— “Look at all those people who are going to be on the unemployment line, when Obama is elected.” And those PROUD Obama supporters told the non-OBAMA supporters to shut up. And now it is HERE!!!!
So don’t be surprised!!! This was predicted that as soon as Obama is elected, that the businesses will NOT go with his INCREASE corporate taxes plan and they will close down before OBAMA gets into office. So live with your decisions!!!
All OBAMA has to say is, “I will not raise taxes. I will give the businesses and the people tax cuts!!” and the economy will be sparkling like ever!!! Right now, all the businesses see are doom and gloom with Obama’s economic policies of INCREASED TAXES for the corporations and businesses!!! Perhaps, this is the way OBAMA likes it! The death of capitalism.
Obama’s ECONOMIC policies make the people and the businesses LAZY and just look for government handouts!!!
Posted by: tij | November 22, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
And how, exactly, is he going to create jobs? And who is going to pay for them? Current corporations aren’t going to, because he wants to increase the taxes on them. Which means he plans to use that money to create these jobs… and guess what will happen? The current corporations will lay off even more people because they won’t be able to afford to keep them employed. We will probably end up with a net decrease in jobs.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | November 22, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Congress appropriates money. All bills to spend money must originate in the House. The executive branch, which is under the direct control of the president, spends it. The GAO is a congressional agency that audits the executive branch to see if the money was properly spent. Aside from the GAO, which is an agency of Congress, and the court system, all government agencies, such as the military, are under presidential control.
From 2000-2008, a Republican Congress gave a Republican president authority to spend money, and the Republican president spent it.
Hence, the president does the actual spending. If the president says that Congress spends too much, he’s saying the equivalent of “the devil made me do it.” And in these last eight years of the unitary executive and one-party rule, where the presidency has defied the Republican courts and even the Republican Congress, that has been stronger and truer than ever.
Bush really is personally responsible for this mess.
Posted by: KenC | November 22, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Stanley – I thought Democrats were supposed to be inclusive? All I keep reading is that if you didn’t vote for Obama that you need to leave the country. How is that being inclusive?
Posted by: ellsbells930 | November 22, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Lets support President Obama and turn this ship around! God bless America!
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
ellbells930, Its okay if you did not vote for Obama..this is a democratic country but when you hate the president elect so much that you want him to fail at the expense of our country..in otherwords..you care more about the Republican party than you do for your country..I have a problem with that! The fact is that the Republicans have damaged our country’s economy and Barack Obama is going to fix it..because he is a smart man who will surround himself with smart people who love this country and want to turn it around. God bless America and good riddance to the Republican so called leaders!
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
The economy is tanking, and the Stock Market has a free fall, dropping 30% since Pres 0bama was elected.
Bush and the Congress while Pres 0bama was still a voting member decided to bail out the bankers to made bad decisions that partially caused the crash – a trillion dollars, that’s 1,000,000,000,000
dollars, 12 Zeros after the number. Yet, when the American manufacturers of the autoindustry, given as bad decisions as the bankers have been made, asked for merely $25 billion – three Zeros less, to save more than 4 million jobs which could potentially be lost, the Congress refused.
Pres. 0bama kept his cool silence in his hole in Chicago.
Pres. Bush was equally clueless, kept his silence in his Oval office.
There are about 60 days left, Bush is not capable of forming a new policy, a new direction, a solution for the economy.
The problem is our Greatest Leader’s. He kept his cool silence, waiting for his turn in 60 days, watching amusingly the market fall, joining happily with his Southside pedestrian asking for his idea on economic policy.
Sadly, I am not surprised at all that our Greatest Leader is cluelessly cool on economy, as he has demonstrated by his pushing for Bush’s money giveaways.
Help! The Country needs some leadership.
Help! The Economy needs some reassurance for its direction.
Help! Senator Clinton, we need you; even as an SOS, you can bring in stability and confidence in the new administration.
Posted by: lazy to think | November 22, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Ok so where does he plan to crap out all these jobs in the next few years. From his own lips he said this “We’ll put people back to work rebuilding our crumbling roads and bridges, modernizing schools that are failing our children, and building wind farms and solar panels; fuel-efficient cars and the alternative energy technologies that can free us from our dependence on foreign oil and keep our economy competitive in the years ahead.”
1. Just where will he get all the asphalt and concrete to rebuild these infrastructures at a time when we are told there is a major shortage of asphalt and asphalt products to make it in the US.
2. The way to fix school is put in teachers who care about kids not a pay check and let them discipline the kids since they seem to not be getting that at home. Just building new larger schools is not the answer.
3. Wind farms and solar power do very little yes they are free but the overall impact is very little how about we go NUCLEAR POWER instead!!!! Put more plants into production faster learn from the French and reprocess used fuels to put right back into reactors and limit overall waste to be stored.
4. As for oil dependency make car makers retool and build the cars they should have been building decades ago to get us away from oil use. They played to he tune of Big Oil and all those years of kickbacks have hurt them now they want bailouts. I say no to that crush the UAW they have done nothing for the workers yet lined there pockets with money. Then cut pay 50 percent for auto workers but give them better health and retirement
Posted by: jd | November 22, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Take care America! And forget..Lets support President Barack Obama..he’s a smart man and loves his country..God bless America!
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
The economy is tanking, and the Stock Market has a free fall, dropping 30% since Pres 0bama was elected.
Bush and the Congress, while Pres 0bama was still a voting member, decided to bail out the bankers and insurers with a trillion dollars, that’s 1,000,000,000,000 dollars.
Yet, when the real Middle class who builds the economy came to town, asking for merely $25 billion, to save more than 4 million jobs which could potentially be lost, the Congress refused.
Pres. 0bama kept his cool silence in his hole in Chicago.
Pres. Bush was equally clueless, silent in his Oval office.
There are about 60 days left; Bush is not capable of forming a new policy, a new direction, a solution for the economy.
The problem is our Greatest Leader’s. Do you think he understands it?
He kept his cool silence, waiting for his turn in 60 days, watching amusingly the market fall, joining happily with his Southside pedestrian on your loss in the stock market, asking for his advice on the economy.
Sadly, I am not surprised at all that our Greatest Leader is clueless.
Help! The Country needs leadership.
Help! The Market needs reassurance for direction.
Help! Only Senator Clinton can save us.
Posted by: lazy to think | November 22, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Budgets increase because the government spends. Remember 9/11,the tech bubble, subprime crisis, the war in Iraq, the hurricanes forcing evacuation of 3 states, fires in the west, flood in the midwest- if the Democrats had been in charge they would have done the same thing as Bush- propose budget increases to stimulate the economy and Congress would have approved. So don’t give the garbage that Bush increased the deficit. It would have had to happen under any president. Where do you think the cost for the 2.5 million jobs Obama is promising is coming from- increasing the deficit.
Posted by: jschmidt | November 22, 2008, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
Exactly how much “hope” does it take to pay my mortgage? Reading through these posts, it appears that’s all I have to work with.
Seriously, 90% of you don’t really have any idea what Obama’s policies are. You’re repeating the talking points and buzz words, but you really don’t know. Can’t say I blame you because at this point, I don’t think even Obama himself knows what his policies are. I can guarantee this. . . . the more he gets briefed on our security and economic status, the more his policies will look like GW’s and the less chance there is that all those promises he made in his campaign will ever come to fruition. For starters, there’s no way in hell you’re going to gain 2.5M jobs as you substantially increase capitol gains tax, and raise income tax on $250K incomes. I employ 20 people and my business ultimately initiates from the $250K plus income bracket, and if you follow the money, you’ll probably find that most of your jobs also initiate from those $250K plus incomes.
He WAS the media sweetheart, but now that McCain is gone, and Bush is winding down, they need something to write about. Just because they did everything within their power to get him elected, doesn’t mean they won’t tear him limb from limb when things aren’t going well and they need a story. It won’t be long before he’s being blamed for things like the weather just like GW. The difference is, Obama is thin skinned and will enter into a state of shock when the media turns on him. Then what?
Posted by: Present | November 22, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
I was making airplane parts and got laid off a month ago. Now I make gun parts for attack helicopters and business is booming! Hah,get it! But seriously, I would rather make parts that save people than kill them. GOBAMA!
Posted by: Phil the machinist | November 22, 2008, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
2.5 Mil over 3 years BIG deal, over 8 million jobs were created under the Bush Administration – Promises, Promises, Promises, Promises, making promises one thing BO appears to be really good at, and the Press is more than glad to go along with it. Public work projects… heheheh I can see it now, more PORK barrel spending, where are the SPECIFICS BO….
Posted by: FidoNY | November 22, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
Oh, and I did not take 1 unemployment check. Obama is all about taking care of your business.
Posted by: Phil the machinist | November 22, 2008, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
What the hell is Bush doing?
Posted by: Flex | November 22, 2008, 7:58 pm 7:58 pm
If Bush create 8 million jobs then why is over 4 million people unemployed?
You do the math!!!
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | November 22, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Government spending sure didn’t do anything to overcome our economic woes. Hell, Bush should be the darling of the left with all the hyper spending he did. I hope barry doesn’t think that raising taxes will help heal our economy.
This notion that a president has anything to do with creating jobs is a bit far-fetched. It is the small business owners who have the greatest impact on job growth. As soon as the tax monster gives the small business owners a break on corporate tax, capital gains tax and regulatory taxes, the sooner jobs will open up. I own a small business and that is the best scenerio to real economic growth.
Posted by: sbirdog | November 22, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Obama had emphasized the principle of “one president at a time”, but has responded, appropriately in my view, to pressure from all sides not to let the nation drift for two months in the midst of a financial crisis of enormous proportions. This is particularly important because emergence from the crisis will involve a major psychological component – a sense by consumers and lenders that someone is taking charge, and embarking on a course with a clear view of how it will eventually restore our financial health. As a scientist, I would only add that the plan to include alternative energy jobs in the restoration is welcome as a response to a crisis that is less apparent in the short run, but ultimately likely to be more threatening – damage to the welfare of civilizations by unabated warming resulting from the continued use of fossil fuels on a massive scale.
Posted by: Fred Moolten | November 22, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
You cannot fix a problem caused by living on borrowed money by borrowing more money. How dumb is it to make debt payments by borrowing more money? Obama has no solution and not a clue what to do because he doesn’t grasp the cause of the economic problem which is living on borrowed money and calling it prosperity. This has been going on for 25 years and it finally caught up with us. If somebody says they are going to spend their way out of the problem, we are truly in for a rough ride. BTW, the price of gas was $1.59 today so do I credit Bush with bringing the price down? You all blamed him for raising it. Remember? it was all Bush’s fault.
Posted by: Brian | November 22, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
I noticed we have a bunch of know-it-alls that know how to fix our country.
If you are soooo smart and think you could do a better job, why don’t you run for Senator or even President? It’s easy to sit behind a keyboard and criticize. Why don’t you actually use your so called intelligence to make a difference? The other thing is, let the man get in office before you start bashing him.
Posted by: Jwench | November 22, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
jwench- with the cabinet he’s picking I trust Obama more than I trust Pelosi/Reid.I think the left wing of the Democrats have taken over Congress. The big question is will Obama lead or will he follow orders. We will see.
Posted by: jschmidt | November 22, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
my only concern is that 2.5m jobs created will no where near account for the millions more that are going to be put out of work over the next three years… smh
Posted by: nadradt | November 22, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
jwench- with the cabinet he’s picking I trust Obama more than I trust Pelosi/Reid.I think the left wing of the Democrats have taken over Congress. The big question is will Obama lead or will he follow orders. We will see.
Posted by: jschmidt | Nov 22, 2008 8:59:02 PM
Pelosi and Reid are idiots. I think we will see Obama lead. His picks have been well thought out and he has some good people coming aboard. I am just glad the Bush II years are coming to a close.
Posted by: Jwench | November 22, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Does Obama realize that many people are keeping track of all of his promises and pledges, some already broken or backpedaled on?
The honeymoon period, or “good will” presently afforded him is going to start wearing thin, most likely in just a few months after he takes office.
Americans have a funny habit of hoisting celebrities up onto pedestals and then, just as quickly, and even gleefully, knocking them off of it. That lady who thinks “Obama is gonna pay for my gas and mortgage” is going to be very upset with him when he doesn’t deliver.
This is what happens when we elect a politician with a record of rhetoric and not accomplishments, nothing but talk.
Posted by: Roxie | November 22, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
jschmidt….I feel Obama is following orders, because of all the former Clinton appointees..Media reports say President-elect Barack Obama has selected Eric Holder as his Attorney General, and that Holder may already have accepted the offer. Holder, as Deputy Attorney General under Janet Reno during the Clinton Administration, said that the Second Amendment does not protect an individual right, but instead protects the right to have a firearm when serving with a militia. After leaving office, Holder stuck to that assertion when he signed Janet Reno’s brief to the Supreme Court in the Heller case, which stated, “The Second Amendment does not protect firearms possession or use that is unrelated to participation in a well-regulated militia.”
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Up till March of this year we have hovered at or below 5% unemployment. From March it has increased to 6.5%. It may go up another half to full point. If 2.5 million jobs are created that will bring the rate down 2.5% to 4-5%, the same as in the Bush years. Even in the golden Clinton years it was 4.5 to 5%. So with unemployment Bush did as good as Clinton. And the hope is Obama will do as good as Bush-4.5 to 5%.
Posted by: jschmidt | November 22, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Jwench: I bet you don’t even know what the federal reserve does….I bet you don’t know who it is. I bet you don’t know why the new treasury secretary is going to take us down the same path that led us to total breakdown. I bet you don’t know that Bush and Obama are twins seperated at birth. Change? B.S……same old, same old….
Posted by: kennedy | November 22, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
What person is going to lay ashalt when they can make more money on Welfare, food stamps and live in public housing? Look at who is doing all the labor in construction jobs, public highways, pouring concrete? Oh its the hard working mexicans that are hear illegal but want to work and make money to send home…..Obama has already broken 3 promises or has lied to US three times.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
jwench – This request is a bit childish if you recall the last 8 years. Although 41 was a disappointment in several domestic areas, the bashing never stopped. Know-it-alls? You have got to be kidding? There are a ton of people who could have done a better job than the past 3 presidents. The problem is that they probably didn’t want to take the pay cut.
It can be argued that we know exactly what doesn’t work! Since FDR’s new deal, the problems that the hyper social programs were designed to fix ARE STILL HERE! When barry mentioned the change thing, I truly was hoping for some ‘real’ change. You cannot change directions with the same people holding onto the same theology that has ALWAYS FAILED!
Not easy but certainly a simple concept don’t you think?
Posted by: sbirdog | November 22, 2008, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
Another know-it-all example can be found watching the video interviews of the obama voters. Not a single one knew who controlled the congress, who reid was, who palosi was or any thing biden had said during the campaign.
Know-it-alls, perhaps not but know-something about what is going on with your own candidate certainly would have been helpful, eh?
Posted by: sbirdog | November 22, 2008, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
You know we actually might be able to reduce unemployment if we deport everyone that is in the US either on a work visa or here illegally….. Since it is estimated that there are 12 million illegals here working, numerous illegals that are getting free education, free health care and free social security benefits….vis the vote that the Dem’s did last year to extend SS benefits to illegals…Yes Obama, Reid, Dodd, Kennedy voted to extend.. Pelosi did not because she sees what the illegals have done to California….That will be the ONLY thing that I will ever say nicely about Pelosi.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 9:30 pm 9:30 pm
How many out of work computer geeks and bankers and execs and auto workers do you think are going to want to work on road or bridge construction? Not many I bet. There will still be millions out of work and on the government dole. Lets see, work for $8 an hour, or collect unemployment, food stamps, WIC, housing subsidies…hmmmmm
Posted by: bo | November 22, 2008, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Wow, its astounding to see the ‘right wingers’ still attempting to use fear and smear against President-elect Obama.
It didn’t work during the election and it won’t work now – people are sick of this nonsense from the ‘right’.
It’s also disturbing to see the same type of low grade intellectual approach prejudging his administration before it even gets in the door.
Oh well, I suppose you don’t have anything better to do.
Posted by: pefros | November 22, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm
jwench – This request is a bit childish if you recall the last 8 years. Although 41 was a disappointment in several domestic areas, the bashing never stopped. Know-it-alls? You have got to be kidding? There are a ton of people who could have done a better job than the past 3 presidents. The problem is that they probably didn’t want to take the pay cut.
It can be argued that we know exactly what doesn’t work! Since FDR’s new deal, the problems that the hyper social programs were designed to fix ARE STILL HERE! When barry mentioned the change thing, I truly was hoping for some ‘real’ change. You cannot change directions with the same people holding onto the same theology that has ALWAYS FAILED!
Not easy but certainly a simple concept don’t you think?
Posted by: sbirdog | Nov 22, 2008 9:24:12 PM
No it’s not childish. If some of these people think they have all the answers, then they need to run for public office. Give the man a chance to GET IN OFFICE before you start criticizing what he has or has not done.
Would you rather he gets together a team of inexperienced people who don’t know the ins and outs of Washington? I certainly would hope not.
TO Kennedy:
Jwench: I bet you don’t even know what the federal reserve does….I bet you don’t know who it is. I bet you don’t know why the new treasury secretary is going to take us down the same path that led us to total breakdown. I bet you don’t know that Bush and Obama are twins seperated at birth. Change? B.S……same old, same old….
Posted by: kennedy | Nov 22, 2008
9:21:09 PM
Like I told the above poster, wait until he gets into office before you start tearing him apart. I do know what the Federal Reserve does btw. I also know that no matter what Obama does some of you will find fault with it.
Posted by: Jwench | November 22, 2008, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
You know we actually might be able to reduce unemployment if we deport everyone that is in the US either on a work visa or here illegally….. Since it is estimated that there are 12 million illegals here working, numerous illegals that are getting free education, free health care and free social security benefits….vis the vote that the Dem’s did last year to extend SS benefits to illegals…Yes Obama, Reid, Dodd, Kennedy voted to extend.. Pelosi did not because she sees what the illegals have done to California….That will be the ONLY thing that I will ever say nicely about Pelosi.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | Nov 22, 2008 9:30:03
There is one problem with that. There are Americans that think they are too good to do those menial jobs that the illegals do.
Posted by: Jwench | November 22, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
I swear you people spouting about welfare checks from Obama are morons. He never said he was going to take from the wealthy and give money for welfare. He talked about tax breaks. People on welfare don’t get tax breaks because they don’t work! DUH!
Posted by: Independent & Proud | November 22, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
So what’s wrong with construction work? My husband is an electrician who does a lot of work for our city and new roads means more work for him. Building new roads, bridges and upgrading our schools means a lot more than just digging ditches. There are many involved.
Posted by: AnaB | November 22, 2008, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
So what’s wrong with construction work? My husband is an electrician who does a lot of work for our city and new roads means more work for him. Building new roads, bridges and upgrading our schools means a lot more than just digging ditches. There are many involved.
Posted by: AnaB | Nov 22, 2008 9:58:21 PM
I look at this way, if you want to feed your family and want to pay your bills you will take any job available. I have had done it before when the company I worked for closed.
Posted by: Jwench | November 22, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Obama truly waxes poetic with his words of hope and vision, the melodious song is made of something part Disney and part Hollywood- and there lies the harsh contrast with truth and reality.
America once used to pride itself on the rugged self-reliance of it’s people. Our country was never a panacea but it was full of promise that if you were honest and you worked hard, a piece of well earned American pie was yours to have. Then came the stock market crash in the late 1920′s and the Midas touch of government programs along with it.
The promise of being cared for by the government began to replace the promise of what freedom and hard work could bring…and sadly we now have a large sector of American society who claim entitlement to the golden touch of government to absolve them of their responsibility and grant them prosperity. Mr. Obama’s proposals thus far have indicated that he is no different than all the other social reform presidents before him; he is just as charismatic and full of the starry eyed hope of government based prosperity as his like minded predecessors.
It is only when we as a country wake up and realize that it isn’t government who holds the keys to the door of our prosperity but our own hard work and responsibility, then and only then will we ever rise again to be the truly great country we once were.
Posted by: Jonathon Grossman | November 22, 2008, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
AnaB…there is nothing wrong with Construction workers or construction work, it is very hard and demanding work. Down here in Texas the only ones that are brick layers are mexicans. The Bricklayer Union could only supply a masonry company with 25 masons. Unfortunately the company needed 100 brick layers and had to go non-union.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
bo, you missed my point! I am not asking Republicans to leave the country..Republicans are Americans too..I am simply asking the Republicans to take a hike from anything that has to do with running the Federal Government..Republicans have damaged this country’s economy with their stupid,nonsensical policy of trickle down economics..Knock,Knock! It doesn’t work especially when you invest in wars and neglect investing in the development of the country economically, infrastructurally etc..That is what I mean when I tell Republicans to “hit the road jack”. Republicans are bad for the country’s growth and development. I am not a democrat..I am an Independent voter but wisdom has thought me that the democratic party is better of the two evils on the question of putting the country first and investing in the middle class to grow the economy. I am not an Iraqi..or Afgan..I am an American jack! and charity must begin at home..take care of America before running around trying to police the world. Obama understands that and that is why he will be an excellent president if the Republicans don’t try to put a block in his way.
Posted by: Stanley | November 22, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
I agree Jwench. If either of us lost our jobs, which neither of us have glamorous jobs, but we do fine, we would do whatever it takes to make things work. I think at least Obama’s plan is a good start. Better than what Bush is doing right now.
Posted by: AnaB | November 22, 2008, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
AnaB…there is nothing wrong with Construction workers or construction work, it is very hard and demanding work. Down here in Texas the only ones that are brick layers are mexicans. The Bricklayer Union could only supply a masonry company with 25 masons. Unfortunately the company needed 100 brick layers and had to go non-union.
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I guess maybe it comes down to where you live. We are in Iowa and while we do have Hispanics here, they are not the majority. And my husband is in a non-union shop, so we don’t deal with unions personally.
Posted by: AnaB | November 22, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Bush and Cheney are busy counting the fortunes his family, his Saudi friends and his oil, banking and military/industrial extended family have made while his administration grossly overspent the taxpayers’ money and the economy tanked.
Posted by: pefros | November 22, 2008, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
I thought that Obama would have surrounded himself with businessman and not career politicans…. At least a business man knows what it takes to run a company. A politican only knows how to spend OUR hard earn tax dollars.
One other thing to think about.. Do you know that over 15,000 people are killed by Drunk Drivers and who knows the number of people that are injured or have lost a limb in the U.S. each year?
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
So, we are going to print the money for 2.5 million jobs created out of air ? NO one is buying our debt any more… China stopped. So, PRINT PRINT PRINT away, dilute the currency, inflation. Anyone with savings is going to be punished. I don’t think the new deal worked very well. Didn’t the great depression last 10 years or so?
Posted by: uh-oh-not-again | November 22, 2008, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
AnaB…We are overrun down here in Texas. One out of 4 motorist do not have car insurance. Out of 130 brick layers and helpers, 100 are hispanic. The youngest non-hispanic foreman is 45 years old. If a business doesn’t post the “prohibit concealed handgun” sign in English & Spanish then a business can’t prevent someone from carring a concealed hand gun into their business.
Our childrens school district which enrolls about 60,000 students in now a minority rule school district. 45% hispanic, 30% white and 10% black 5% Asian. We spend more on ESL (english as a second language) students than we do on whites and black students. Parkland Hospital in Dallas Texas, receives 5- 8 million dollars every quarter from the Federal Gov’t for reimbursement for the illegals that are using the county hospital and “can’t” afford the hospital bill. In one hour, Parkland delivered 50 babies, Parkland says that 70% of the babies born in their hospital are to illegals. Now you can see why Texas & California have a little attitude towards illegals. I won’t even mention about the drug cartels that are in the DFW area. It is frightening.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
One other thing to think about.. Do you know that over 15,000 people are killed by Drunk Drivers and who knows the number of people that are injured or have lost a limb in the U.S. each year?
Posted by: 55Mariposa
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You know, we may not agree on much from what I’ve read, but in the last 5 minutes I was just talking to a friend online and found out a mutual friend of mine and hers just lost her 16 yr old cousin because a couple of older boys gave her alcohol and then gave her the keys to her car, and she drove off a bridge and died.
So this makes me wonder, with all the horrible things that happen in this world, why can we not all, repubs, dems, liberals just come together to make things right in our country?
Posted by: AnaB | November 22, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Stanley most of the problems during the Bush adminstration can be traced to Democratic Congresses past meddling in the economic affairs of business. Try as they must the Dems have caused much of the havoc we are facing now. From CRA in the 70s to Franks and Dodd blocking Fannie regulation.
Posted by: jschmidt | November 22, 2008, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
55Mariposa…I won’t argue with you about problems with illegal immigrants. I think it’s more of a question of what do we do about it. Obviously we are a country built on the melting pot theory. But something needs to be done. What, I honestly don’t know.
Posted by: AnaB | November 22, 2008, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Stanley..only thing that I will agree with you is that we need to take care of ourselves first and then the rest of the world. However, we did a cut and run job during Clintons Admin on Somilia and look what happen to that country. Do we leave Kenya, and other African countries to be taken over by the Muslin extremes? But Obama has already made the following promise during his campaign, that we must help the rest of world and be peace keepers. Peace Corp program that pays $30k a year.
Obama wants to legalize over 10 million illegal mexicans that are taking jobs from our welfare receiptants down here in Tecas. So if Obama wants to create 2 million new jobs but he is going to legalize 10 million illegals….gosh the math doesn’t add up to 2 million jobs created…
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
He really hasn’t been able to do much since he is not in charge yet.
Honestly, what’s wrong with letting him get into office before you bash him?
I don’t think Bush did a great job, but I have never bashed him. Bush as a man, I think is someone I would really like. McCain is funny as hell I think. But I refuse to bash any of these people. Why? Because they are at least stepping up to the plate to try and help our country.
Posted by: AnaB | November 22, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Obama wants to legalize over 10 million illegal mexicans that are taking jobs from our lazy asz welfare receiptants down here in Tecas. So if Obama wants to create 2 million new jobs but he is going to legalize 10 million illegals….gosh the math doesn’t add up to 2 million jobs created…
Posted by: 55Mariposa | Nov 22, 2008 10:41:22 PM
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Our Greatest Leader Pres 0bama has no comment on the need of helping the 4 million plus autoworkers and suppliers who are facing losing their jobs. He voted to give $150 billion bailout of AIG, $30 billion Morgan Chase, $300 billion mortgage, $700 billion banking.
Yet he refuse to support a mere $25 billion to save the 4 million autoworker jobs.
Posted by: lazy to think | November 22, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
AnaB…McCain – Kennedy Immigration Act would have solved 90% of the problems with illegals. But the Dem’s, including Obama voted against it because they felt it was a hardship to make an illegal pay $3,000 back to the Fed’l Gov’t. When I see all the spanish speaking people that pull up in their brand NEW Ford F150′s or Chevy Tahoes at my son & daughter school it make me sick. But they do work hard and pay zero income taxes and know how to work the system. Which you and I get to pay for. So if the illegals can’t afford to pay the $3,000 fine how come more than $500 million U.S. dollars are sent back to Mexico by legals and illegals?
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
AnaB,
It’s the Leadership that the country needs, the Market needs, and the economy needs.
There is an absolute vacuum of leadership any where in Washington or in Chicago.
It’s our Greatest Leader’s problem. He is willing and capable of letting everything slide to a bottomless hole, by keeping his cool, his silence.
He does not need to do and he cannot do anything as a Pres, but he has his mouth to tell you how, specifically, he will lead.
It’s not “Believe In” time, not “Hope” time. It is “Solution” time, specific solutions, one by one; exactly what and how he is going to doit .
Posted by: lazy to think | November 22, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
lazy to think…maybe Obama will let the Big 3 file for bankruptcy. Which is the best course of action because that way ALL contracts with the Big 3 will be voided and new contracts will have to written. Which means the overpaid CEO’s, executives and the UAW worker will have to take pay & benefit cuts. SO sorry UAW workers that make 70K a year..that right I know you only make $25 an hour but your benefit package of free child care, health insurance for the entire family, pension plan that pays you up to 40K a year and free private health care after you retire might go bye bye…along with performance bonus, getting 68 paid holidays in the next 4 years, triple time on Sunday, and getting paid while sitting on your butt in the break room while your equipement is being repaired.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
Lazy to think:
I believe he supports bailing out the auto industry
Posted by: AnaB | November 22, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Fact UAW GM worker makes $70 (includes wages & benefits) compared to Toyota’s $40 an hour.
$70-$40= $30 difference in pay.
$30 x 40 hours = $1,200 difference in pay for ONE week for one employee.
$1,200 x 150,000 workers = $180 million dollars difference in a ONE week of work.
$180 million x 50 weeks = $ 9 BILLION dollars difference in payroll & benefits package between GM & Toyota worker. No wonder the BIG 3 are going broke. Screw the UAW and their workers who think that they are under pay and over worked. UAW worker makes $60-$70K a year + benefits that the AVERAGE worker would love to have. Heck we pay our Teachers a big salary of $30-$40k a year and I consider a teacher has a more important job than a line worker that screws in bolts on a car that fall apart after 4 years.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
55Mariposa,
“maybe” – that’s the key word that tanks the Stock Market. Just this uncertainty of “maybe” that our Greatest Leader created. Because it is maybe, the Stock Market tanked 30% since our Greatest Leader is destined to LEAD.
Maybe, he would lead. Maybe, he does not know how and what to lead.
Posted by: lazy to think | November 22, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
AnaB,
You “believe”. Do you know?
In response to a question if 0bama has provided guidance to the Senate on auto bailout, Senator Durbin replied “No, no!”
Posted by: lazy to think | November 22, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
55Mariposa:
In my opinion, they make way too damn much money!
Posted by: AnaB | November 22, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Lazy to think:
I’m sorry. I was going off his recent 20/20 interview where he said we need to bail them out with conditions.
Posted by: AnaB | November 22, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
In my opinion, they make way too damn much money! Posted by: AnaB
Yes I agree with you and maybe OUR Congress can understand WHY so many of us don’t want OUR taxes going towards overpaid CEO’S, executives and UAW workers.
Posted by: lazy to think …..
“maybe” – that’s the key word that tanks the Stock Market. Just this uncertainty of “maybe” that our Greatest Leader created. Because it is maybe, the Stock Market tanked 30% since our Greatest Leader is destined to LEAD.
Maybe, he would lead. Maybe, he does not know how and what to lead.
I think Obama is extremely smart and he has outwitted and out played everyone in the U.S. that fell for his “Change” and “Believe” crapp.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 22, 2008, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
Ok, I thank you mariposa for having a truly civil conversation. But I refuse to get into the fear crap, so I will say goodnight.
Posted by: AnaB | November 22, 2008, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
I think the Dem’s figured out that Hillary couldn’t beat McCain, so they made a deal with Obama and Hillary…. Why so many former Clinton advisors on Obama’s team? Why did Obama lie to everyone about not having Lobbist in the White House but it is OK to have Bundlers in the WH? Just the say way B.Clinton convince everyone that oral sex IS not sex.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 23, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Republicans are nation destroyers and Democrats are nation builders..Republicans focus on meddling in other country’s business at the expense of America’s development..Democrats have a stronger domestic policy and believes in investing at home for the economic development etc..Republicans always leave us with a big deficit and Democrats always have to clean up their mess…Bill Clinton left us with a surplus..Reagan, and Daddy Bush(left us with a deficit) and Baby Bush will leave us with a very big deficit. Republicans love war..Democrats love peace! Thank God we have gotten the rid of the Republicans in Government…now its time to build our country again. God bless America!
Posted by: Stanley | November 23, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
If 2.5 million jobs are added, but 2.5 million illegal immigrants who will work for much lower wages come over the border in these two years, then how is this a gain?
Posted by: OBAMANATION [uh-bom-uh-NEY-shuhn] | November 23, 2008, 1:07 am 1:07 am
if you add to illegal guest workers million of legal H1 or H2 visas …
Posted by: magda | November 23, 2008, 1:38 am 1:38 am
Obama has made a lot of promises to many groups. He got elected and needs to prove himself, there is no more voting “present”. He now owns a majority in the Senate and Congress and they will rubber stamp his agenda for the first year. He has 2 years to turn things around or he’ll get booted out in 4. Here’s my prediction. The American public has a short memory and are fickle.. The media will only support him for so long and then they will begin printing the stories they should have printed and investigated prior to the election. The Clintons and their inside moles will leak information and wreak havoc to his administration. Biden will become Nostradamus and an international event will drag Obama down because he will have to take an unpopular position and commit our troops, troops will die and he’ll be hounded by code pink and the far left. He’ll want to tax and spend to creat jobs and then the Congress fearing their own re-elections will have to turn on him. The preasure will be mounting, his wife Micheal will go on Oprah and have a breakdown. Pass the popcorn this is going to be a fun 4 years to watch this trainreck!
Posted by: Redneck | November 23, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am
Stanley – It’s not that I WANT him to fail, it’s that I KNOW he will fail, because the Democratic mantra of throwing money at problems just doesn’t work. I know that the government getting involved in healthcare won’t work, because it’s the government’s fault healthcare doesn’t work today. The start of all of our healthcare issues started with the creation of Medicare. I can’t get into all the details here, because there isn’t enough space, but the short version is that everything people bash insurance companies for now – Medicare came up with those policies first & the insurance companies followed. You can’t create longterm meaningful employment by taxing corporations out of existence. And the people of a nation who are dependent on their government for all of their “needs” becomes a nation of mediocrity – with little innovation and no gumption.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | November 23, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
2.5 million new jobs—and freaking bush is traveling around the world promoting free trade—-is he already lining up where to send the new jobs.—it is people like walmart that are ruining our country with chinese junk–and destroying out economy with a massive trade imbalance—and freaking bush wants more.unless we get trade and big oil under some kind of controll we will see our country get far worse than it is now—remember that when you spend your money in the import junkyards.
Posted by: rodney | November 23, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am
WHEN YOU GO CHRISTMAS SHOPPING ,PICK UP AN ITEM SEE WHERE IT IS MADE —AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY JOBS THAT ONE ITEM HAS COST OUR COUNTRY—THEN TRY TO FIND WHAT IS MADE IN THE USA—AT THIS POINT YOU MAY GET SOME IDEA AS TO WHY WE ARE IN THE SHAPE WE ARE IN.–MILLIONS OF JOBS GONE TO CHINA AND OTHER COUNTRIES, AND FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO MAKE THAT 5% OF US FILTHY RICH.
Posted by: rodney | November 23, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
Finally a president who understands that if we’re going to spend $10 Billion a month, it should be on building bridges and roads in AMERICA, not flushing it down the toilet in IRAQ.
Posted by: clifton | November 23, 2008, 9:06 am 9:06 am
REDNECK – Didn’t you hear, your “voting present” nonsense was dismissed months ago along with Rezko, Ayers, He’s a Muslim, and your other slogans of the day?
Read Obama’s record before parroting your stupid republican friends. Obama votes “present” in less than 3% of votes during his term.
McCain, on the other hand, was ABSENT for 52% of votes, floating in his $7 Million luxuty yacht while the nation was sinking around him.
The confederacy is gone, and so is your racist world, Redneck.
Posted by: clifton | November 23, 2008, 9:11 am 9:11 am
THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY LEAVING OUR COUNTRY —MUST STOP—WE COULD HAVE HEALTH CARE AND MOST ANYTHING ELSE NEEDED—–BUT TRADE MUST GET UNDER CONTROLL–AND THE FREAKING IRAQ WAR MUST END.
Posted by: rodney | November 23, 2008, 9:13 am 9:13 am
WE PUT OBAMA IN POWER –AND WE MUST HOLD HIM TO HIS PROMISES—–AS TO HEALTH CARE HE PROMISED TORT REFORM,THAT SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE AMBULANCE CHASING LAWYERS A LITTLE WORKED UP AS THEY ARE A PRIMARY CAUSE OF THE HIGH COST.BUT THE IDIOTS DREAMING OF INSTANT WEALTH NEED TO BE EDUCATED.
Posted by: rodney | November 23, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Jobhunter, sorry, but being a full time blogger is not looking for a job. LOOKING for a job is a full time job in and of itself; I’ve been there
Posted by: LOfromMO | November 23, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
IT TOOK 16 YEARS TO GET US IN THIS MESS—DONT EXPECT IT TO CHANGE INSTANTLY.
FREE TRADE WILLY STARTED THE ECONOMIC DISASTER AND DUMBELL BUSH GOT US IN A STUPID WAR–HIS OWN FATHER KNEW BETTER.
THE NEW ADMINISTRATION WILL CERTAINLY HAVE MORE THAN A FEW CHALLENGES.
GOODBYE
Posted by: rodney | November 23, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
2.5 million government jobs paid for by tax payers money complete with union affiliation and free health care. Sounds like a way to insure a dem victory for the next couple of decades.
Posted by: oh really | November 23, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
EllsBells writes, “It’s not that I WANT him to fail, it’s that I KNOW he will fail, because the Democratic mantra of throwing money at problems just doesn’t work.”
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(lol) I have to admit that I’m tickled when I hear Republicans toss that whole Democrats want to spend and THEY don’t nonsense. Republicans are far worse when it comes to spending. They have a blank check policy because most of their constituents aren’t even paying attention.
How much have we spent already on the war in Iraq? How much have we borrowed from foreign countries? If you believe the whole Democratic mantra nonsense I think it’s safe to say you also believe in the Easter Bunny as well as Santa.
Posted by: Dems | November 23, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Dems – This difference is HOW they spend money. It is all summed up in “If you give a man a fish, he’ll eat for a day (The Democrats). If you teach a man to fish, he’ll eat for a lifetime (The Republicans).”
Posted by: ellsbells930 | November 23, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
ellsbells:
You’re living in a dream world.
Here’s how the Republicans ran the government.
REPUBLICAN GOVERNMENT
$421 Billion OVER BUDGET (2002)
$555 Billion OVER BUDGET (2003)
$596 Billion OVER BUDGET (2004)
$554 Billion OVER BUDGET (2005)
$574 Billion OVER BUDGET (2006)
This includes RECORD overspending.
And the Republicans had the nerve during the election to try to label the Democrats as “overspenders of your hard earned tax dollars”.
Republican philosophy is buy a country its wealth by doing into debt until you totally bankrupt it and then let it flounder.
Posted by: pefros | November 23, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Problem is…. Americans don’t want real work…… we have farmers in our area begging for workers…. only ones that are applying are the illegal Aliens……….. just think….. if they kick out the 11 million illegal aliens….. they could put a LOT of Americans to work….
Posted by: Scion08 | November 23, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
pefros – I’m not the one living in a dream world. Perhaps you should look at the underlying cause of the spending in those years…. does a little date like 9/11 ring a bell? A hurricane named Katrina? A tsunami in Southeast Asia? Just to name a few unusual, extraordinary things that happened.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | November 23, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
EllsBells writes, “Dems – This difference is HOW they spend money. It is all summed up in “If you give a man a fish, he’ll eat for a day (The Democrats). If you teach a man to fish, he’ll eat for a lifetime (The Republicans).”
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This is the problem Ells. You now say it’s NOT the spending but WHERE we’re spending it. (This is the kind of thing Republicans like to say when people start looking at the ACTUAL numbers which show the Republicans have an open check policy towards spending and borrowing money.)
Let me ask you, do you now WHERE the money is being spent? Right now there are literally MILLIONS of “White” Americans who honestly believe the deficits are the result of government handouts when in ACTUALITY they are not.
If you have issues with the welfare system you clearly aren’t in tune with certain realities. The system is designed to protect children. CHILDREN. Are we to assume that you believe the CHILDREN should be homeless, without food and shelter BECAUSE they were born to low-lifes, short-sighted or simply unfortunate individuals?
You’d have far more money in YOUR pocket if you didn’t buy into the whole trickle down economics bs.
Posted by: Dems | November 23, 2008, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
WHY IS THE MEDIA NOT PRESSING THE CURRENT BUSH-CHENEY ADMINISTRATION FOR PRESIDENTIAL ACTION LEADING TO SOLUTIONS FOR THE NATION’S ECONOMIC ILLS? IT APPEARS BUSH-CHENEY ARE PLANNING A “CUT AND RUN” STRATEGY WHILE LEAVING OBAMA-BIDEN HOLDING THE BAG.
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NO AUTHORITY UNTIL JANUARY 20th:
I am happy and not surprise the Obama-Biden ‘Administration-Elect’ is announcing their financial plans to help the country. I am happy they are working hard to find a way to assist the auto industry. Although they have NO AUTHORITY, the token help is appreciated when their focus should be primarily on the search for 3,000 political appointments.
CUT AND RUN AWOL COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF:
Look around. Nobody in the media, much less FAUX-News or Right-Wing radio is reminding the Bush-Cheney administration they are still getting paid to fix the disaster they allowed to develop on their watch. The Bush-Cheney administration is still ‘on the clock’ for the next two months. Assuming this national crisis is as critical as claimed, then why is there not greater pressure from Congress, from Governors, from the media, and from Right-Wing zealots to make the Bush-Cheney administration work this crisis until their last days in office? Again, if they are still getting a paycheck, should not they have to dive in and fix the problem? Why are these problems left to the Obama-Biden team and they have NO AUTHORITY to execute any presidential solutions until January 20, 2009?
Posted by: Perusing-Through | November 23, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Perusing-Through…why should Bush do anything…he already is being blamed for everything when the Dem’s control Congress. I say let Obama and his massive team of people figure out the best course of action. If Bush does anything now, it could mess up Obama’s plan of action. Any way let Obama have the headache, Bush got 9/11 and now Obama will have the economy that the Dem’s created.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 23, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Jobs left during the Clinton administation.
The attack on 9/11 messed up the economy we had in 2002 and 2003.
The war has costed us alot, but the real problem started when Pelosi and Reid continued to tell the world that we were in trouble. Wanting to win in 2004.
Yet they didn’t stop Fannie and Freddie’s letting the bad loans go thru.
That is not Bush’s problem. Read and get the real facts about this country and you will see that it is the Dems. that have ruined it.
I am watching for the next 8 years while all of you who voted for the change to be the ones who change to Rep. in the next election!
Posted by: tonya | November 23, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
tonya… don’t you find it funny that Obama has hire several former Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac CEO’s? Especially since one of these individuals made over 30 million in one year as CEO of Fannie Mae…. Obama has outwitted and out played everyone…now we all will get to pay for their mistakes.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 24, 2008, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Tonya wrote “That is not Bush’problem..”She is right in an offbeat sort of way. Bush’ problem was when he woke up one morning, went and shot some animal,then got to thinking (OoOh dangerous). He thought “Hey, he-he-he-he, I think I’ll run for that President of the United States. He should have thought of Plan B.- A Comedian. He was a great jokester while he was in office. I would have bought tickets to see him at the comedy barn
Posted by: MrsJones | November 24, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
Let’s clear this up..It’s ALL Bush’ fault. This war is costing US millions(billions?) of dollars. And as soon as we leave whatever religion or militant style group is the strongest WILL take over. My Uncle was in Vietnam, left leg shot off, hand shot THROUGH, he was 18 and there one week when he was ambushed. He said the same thing. You can’t save a country that don’t want to be saved. They have too many extremist religions over there. And I want my nephew and cousin to come home in one piece. Useless War. Vietnam all over again.
Posted by: MrsJones | November 24, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am
Dems – Simple math tells you that if my taxes are increased, I will NOT have more money. I would not have more money under the Democrats, because we have NEVER had more money under the Democrats. We had a nice savings until Bill Clinton got into office & increased our taxes. Then we were living paycheck to paycheck. We were making headway again after President Bush got into office and he decreased taxes. We are still currently doing okay and will be until Obama raises our taxes again.
As for welfare… yes, I have a problem with it. When my daughter was an infant, I happened to go to the grocery store on WIC day – I was the ONLY person in line paying for my own groceries. I was the only one buying store brands & generics, while the WIC moms were buying brand names of everything. And it is was really interesting to see how many of them were teenage moms there with their own moms – I can guarantee those babies weren’t eating that food – but grandmom certainly was. I particularly have a problem with people who have kids JUST to get a welfare check ..and there are millions of people out there like that. I think that you should have to go out and get a job.. any job in order to get some welfare money. For all the hype in the media about there not being any jobs out there – every time I go out I see help wanted signs. But people would rather sit on their butts and collect welfare than get a job.
Posted by: ellsbells930 | November 24, 2008, 6:38 am 6:38 am
Let’s create 2.5 million jobs.. and we’ll do it by hammering every business in sight. But, I have to give Obama credit.. for once he made a promise that isn’t a lie. He is going to create 2.5 million new jobs.. in China.
Posted by: howwouldiknow | November 24, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
People. The 2 party system is a sham. Obama can’t do anything. We are going to have 25% unemployment and we are going into Great Depression 2. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Stop believing everything you read from the MASS MEDIA. Do some research about the media outlets and find out where they get THEIR news from. People are so stupid. SHEEPLE.
Posted by: ryan | November 24, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Barry O
when are you going to start paying my mortgage and car loan? start spreadin’ the wealth around! i got kids man, daddy needs a new pair a shoes!
Posted by: dave | November 25, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
“The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.” T.J.
Posted by: thomas2112 | November 25, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
It is truly amazing and quite sad that so many posters here just can’t get over the fact that the country wants to go in a different direction. You had 8 long years of having it your way, and look where that got us. Most of you talk about increased spending, but nobody mentions how much we are wasting in Iraq. It will go down in history as the most ridiculous waste of money in the history of mankind. Also, what if the absolutely best case scenario unfolds in Iraq, which is that it becomes a free and democratic society. It can’t possibly last because the people who live in that country hate each other. I only hope that this wont be our story one day. JOHN MCCAIN AND THE REPUBLICANS LOST!! THE ELECTION IS OVER!!! I would rather do my deficit spending in this country fixing collapsing bridges and crumbling roads and building wind farms, and maybe even nuclear power plants, than sending it over to a hopeless wasteland where there can really never be a victory or peace. There will never be another U.S. ally such as Israel in the Middle East. The Iraqis will turn on us as soon as we leave. In fact they have never liked us and have already begun turning on us. If all of the money we spent on this war had been spent in this country, we would be just as safe as we are now, even if Saddam was still alive and in power, and there would be an economic boom going on. The money spent over there was blown up in smoke and we have nothing to show for it.
Now let’s talk a little bit about taxes. Nobody is talking about raising anybody’s taxes. The Bush tax cuts will be allowed to expire, as Congress intended when they passed them, and people making over $250,000 will pay more. Boo hoo hoo. What are you doing with that extra money now? How much are we really talking about, and how will your life be affected compared to the millions of people who are out of work? We need to have more compasion for our fellow man, and those of us making more than $250,000 should be thanking our lucky stars for being in that position and realize that it could all change in the blink of an eye, and one day we might be one of those who benefit from the higher taxes that will have to be paid.
Posted by: Amazed | November 25, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Millions of people are losing jobs, homes, and cars and definately not able to pay their credit cards, their credit is ruined!!!
Has anyone given any thought to that? The fact that when you apply for a job they base employment on your credit report? How is that going to work? How will those people get jobs when that is a new employment requirement as of the last 8 years?!!
I need a job too! I hope the jobs he creates are equal opportunity for ALL and not just a certain sector! It’s time for equality and no special favors anymore. This is the United States, and now there is no reason to divide anymore. Many Americans haven’t and don’t qualify for government money even if they have no money or food.
There are many poor people, of all colors in America now. Equal rights to ALL, because many are struggling and there is no real minority anymore.
Posted by: 1DreamzOn | November 26, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
[What if the absolutely best case scenario unfolds in Iraq, which is that it becomes a free and democratic society. It can't possibly last because the people who live in that country hate each other.]
In response to that, if you read peoples posts, it seems to me that alot of people in our country hate each other too. I read news and comments daily, and so many people seem to show division and hate..for one thing or another by throwing blame into the comment rather than simply making their statement.
Divisions because of political stance, color, gender, status, religion.. when I read a comment that has any kind of attack in it, it automatically makes it an invalid point to me.
We could find ways to agree and fix problems, rather than do what the candidates did and argue and point fingers. How does that accomplish anything positive? We are all human and all live on this planet and all have the same basic needs..and it’s getting down to that.
So, the election is over. We are all equal now..lets come up with solutions and unite, rather than become the great divide! Our future depends on solutions and unity.
Everyone has their own style, thoughts, beliefs, opinions, etc., which might offend others. We don’t need to throw all that into comments whether on a board or in person, if we have a point to make and want to be taken seriously.
Times are troubling enough and we need to band together and help find solutions. We are in deep water and the solutions the experts have come up with haven’t worked yet, the news is worse every day, even with their daily solutions and bailouts.
So it’s up to us guys and girls, maybe they will read what we have to say and think outside the box on solutions.
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