Nov 26, 2008 3:41pm

On Thanksgiving Eve, Obama Family Hands Out Food to the Needy

ABC News’ Matt Jaffe reports:

On Thanksgiving Eve, President-elect Barack Obama, his wife Michelle, and his daughters Malia and Sasha, all bundled up in winter coats and hats, dished out chickens to the needy at a Chicago church, leaving some overcome with emotion.

"The number of people who are getting food this year is up 33 percent," Obama said of the crowds who gathered at the Windy City’s St. Columbanus Church. "And I think it gives a sense — times are tough. And I think that on Thanksgiving, it’s important for us to remember people in need, but it’s important not just during Thanksgiving."

"These folks were already often times having a tough time and it gets tougher now," he added. "So we want to make sure that people that can give, that are able to contribute to the food depository, volunteer, participate. This is part of what Thanksgiving should be all about."

Obama, who noted this was his third year at his hometown food bank, was asked why he had brought his two daughters with him.

"I want them to learn the importance of how fortunate they are and make sure they are giving back," he responded.

Some people at the food bank, where lines can start forming as early as 5 am, were so excited to see the President-elect that they forgot to take their chickens with them.

"Don’t forget your chicken," he reminded them, passing along the Thanksgiving grub provided by the Greater Chicago Food Depository and packed in white grocery bags.

"Very special," said one emotional man, crying as he described what it meant to meet Obama.

The family later entered the auditorium of the church’s school, where they were greeted by a screaming crowd of students in Pre-Kindergarten through eighth grade. And the shrieking only skyrocketed when Obama started rattling off Thanksgiving food staples.

"How about mac & cheese," he asked as the kids roared.

"How about green beans?" he continued. "How about sweet potato fries?"

Then Obama turned to more school-related questions, encouraging the students to work hard and pay attention in class.

"How many people like to read?" he asked. "Everybody likes math?"

If they studied hard, Obama told the kids, "You guys might even end up being the president someday."

One sixth-grader asked Obama what it’s like to be president.

"I’m not president yet. I’ve only been elected president. I’m gonna be sworn in as president on January 20th," Obama replied, as the crowd erupted in applause once again. "Once I’m president, I’ll let you know what it’s like."

One part of the presidency that Obama already knows about — and knows he won’t like — is the lack of privacy, due to constant Secret Service protection.

"Secret Service, wave your hands!" Michelle asked the onlooking officers, drawing loud laughter from the crowd.

"Sometimes it’s kind of strange where you kinda just want to go to Walgreens and pick something up," noted the President-elect.

"I want everybody to have a great Thanksgiving," Obama said, wrapping up his two-question Q & A with the kids.

"I just want you to know that what I’m thankful for is my family and my friends and my community," he concluded. "That’s the most important things."

As he departed, the kids serenaded him with chants of "O-ba-ma! O-ba-ma!"

Their hour-long visit over, Obama and his family returned to their Hyde Park home just past noon local time, where they will spend the rest of the day and tomorrow’s holiday. 

– Matt Jaffe

User Comments

C’mon…why so cynical? Isn’t it just possible he does care? It’s the third year he’s done it – have YOU volunteered ANYWHERE just for the good of someone else? Try it – it’d be good for you.

Posted by: grama c | November 26, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

To concerned in OH
Give me a break and have a wondrful Thanks giving

Posted by: Ken | November 26, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

It’s a time to give thanks, not to be a turkey in a roasting pursuit as so many are on these blogs, including myself.

Posted by: kat | November 26, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

concerned in OH obviously didn’t the fact that Pres. Elect Obama had been doing this years before the cameras were around. if he didn’t care this year he would have definitely had an excuse not to come back.
the sour grapes attitude of many Republicans who can’t move on and get over the fact he will be the Pres the next four years need to just get over it because the people have spoken.

Posted by: autoprt | November 26, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm

Dear Concerned,
Wrong time of the year to be cynical. Right time of the year to get off the couch and do something for others–just like the Obamas.
So stop trying to mind-read the reasons why the Obamas are reaching out and try to be more like them. It might actually make your heart happy.

Posted by: Kiwi | November 26, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Concerned
It is obvious that you have never volunteered or given anything to charity in your life. Obama had been a community organizer and he will always help out people, but then again you would not know anything about helping others.
I still wish you a happy thanksgiving, I hope you will find something to give thanks for.

Posted by: Barb | November 26, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

FROM THE IMAGINARY OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT ELECT: Here have a turkey instead of a tax break, lmao

Posted by: tyrone | November 26, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Im sure the people there appeciated it very much. I think he is a very caring person & it shows. Why be so cynical concerned in OH.??
Happy Thanksgiving!!

Posted by: Dee | November 26, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

Oh my goodness, my friend in OH. I really do hope you say such things to rattle people and that you are not really that negative in your real life. Some people do care about how others are doing. It’s sad that you would sound so confident in your belief that it’s impossible to be sincere about helping others.

Posted by: Question | November 26, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

I participate in helping at the food bank daily – the reality is that I actually see the impact of the economy and the growing lines of people who can’t afford to buy food. It’s very sadening to watch people who are grateful but embarassed and some broken spirited because they’ve had to resort to pantries to eat. I’m more concerned about the awareness that there a lots of hungry WORKING people right here in Chicago – right in your neighborhood. Hopefully people will take a stand to act rather than point fingers. Happy Thanksgiving to All.

Posted by: Awesome | November 26, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Thank you Mr. President. That was a wonderful thing that you and your family did today. May GOD BLESS YOU & YOURS & MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA AS WELL.

Posted by: obamacratic | November 26, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

By the way, I am a volunteer and philanthropist and have personally ran into Obama way back in the day (7 or more years)helping at several charities.

Posted by: Awesome | November 26, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm

Obama no longer needs a “photo-op”. He won. This is a sincere moment.

Posted by: Vanessa | November 26, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Concerned:
Do some volunteering, it will help and lift your spirit!!!!
Have a Blessful Thanksgiving to ALL!!!

Posted by: sisterdearest09 | November 26, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Dear Concerned, I think a good way to get back at Obama for this terrible deed would be to show him how it’s really done by getting out there yourself and volunteering your time this holiday.
Show him what “real” volunteering for the “right” reasons looks like.
Happy thanksgiving!

Posted by: dl | November 26, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm

Nice photo-op. Too bad there’s no care or sincerity behind it.
Posted by: Concerned in OH
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I suppose the Obama family could have followed the George W. Bush families example and went into hiding after doling out the contents of the United States of America’s treasury to his buddies that helped put the imbecile into office all the while robbing the country blind.

Posted by: Truth Matters | November 26, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

I would not care if it was a 3 second photo op!!!!
At least the Obama’s Family took the time out to show people that they genuine care!!!
Where’s the Bush’s Family?

Posted by: sisterdearest09 | November 26, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

I moved from OH several years ago but like the obamas never forgot where I came from

Posted by: x-ohioan | November 26, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

concerned, since Sarah Palin is a Republican, I’m sure she was being sincere when she said she was having fun while turkeys were being dispatched directly behind her, right? Great photo-op, that.

Posted by: mila | November 26, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

That was nice of the Obama’s.

Posted by: rachel | November 26, 2008, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Where are the McCain’s? Oh I guess at one of the seven homes they own preparing for Thanksgiving. There are so many of us without jobs, insurance, and money. Let’s say a prayer for the people who are in need. That’s what the Obama’s are doing and have always done. Get over being angry life is too short.

Posted by: san pedro | November 26, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

Concerned in OH -
“too bad there’s no care or sincerity behind it.”
How one earth would you pretend to know what’s in other people’s hearts? On Thursday, why don’t you try to find something to be grateful for instead of spending your day snarking. Happy Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 26, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm

Concerned – move to Alaska, I am sure SP will welcome you with ‘not’ so open arms.
Shame on you, what would your mother think?

Posted by: jc | November 26, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

“Where are the McCain’s? Oh I guess at one of the seven homes they own preparing for Thanksgiving. There are so many of us without jobs, insurance, and money.” Maybe you should have saved your money and spent it wisely!

Posted by: James | November 26, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

I expected nothing less from our president elect and his family during this holiday season. Good people right down to the bone.

Posted by: Chuck | November 26, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

“have YOU volunteered ANYWHERE just for the good of someone else? Try it – it’d be good for you.” How about save your money and spend it wisely? God helps those who help themselves – it’d be good for you.

Posted by: James | November 26, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Jake you failed to mention that until the Obamas arrived, the church only had two fish and five loaves of bread — but it ended up with enough food to feed the multitude. How precious!

Posted by: cynical black man | November 26, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Even if this were just a photo op, the fact is that the Obama family is giving us a concrete reminder that at this time when we think of feasting, lots of people are facing a challenge putting any food on their table, much less a feast. Not only is Obama graphically showing us the issue instead of just talking at us, he and his family are demonstrating how easy and important it is to help out those less fortunate. And of course for all the parents out there, here’s a valuable lesson to share with your kids as well. Leading by example; gotta love his style!

Posted by: mauimom | November 26, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Truth Matters: are you concerned that Obama has hired Geithner and about every other protege of Rubin who helped give out money to Wall Street? No – because Jesus would do it too, I guess.

Posted by: cynical black democrat | November 26, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Mauimom – we don’t need the Obamas to tell us this. The Salvation Army is out in full force at the grocery stores now.
PS: Any time famous people give out crumbs to the little ones with cameras around, I feel the same way. Pitiful.

Posted by: cynical black democrat | November 26, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

As a conservative Republican who despises Barack Obama, I say this is a good thing.
Sincere, or not, it sets a good example and ALL politicians should be doing the same.

Posted by: Lynn | November 26, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm

The Obamas are the Real Deal and those who opposed him can’t stand it. They chose a man with 7 homes who believed the economy is “fundamentally strong” and the rest of us chose a brilliant, sensitive, family man, someone who understands food banks as well as financial banks. Obama may very well be the first American leader in way too long who actually can empathize with the poor and suffering. Anyway, if it ever comes when America doesn’t want him in DC anymore, we in Chicago will welcome him and his family back with love and gratitude. And BTW: I’m not black, I’m not poor, I own my own small business and what I give thanks for most this year is how my country rejected the failed policies of the past and chose to elect an outstanding human being for president.

Posted by: Maureen | November 26, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

You guys act like food drives have never happened until the gracious Obama donated. That’s pretty sad. Earth to Obamaville: Food drives are most successful and popular during the holidays; and often, celebrities participate. Ta da!

Posted by: cynical black democrat | November 26, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

It is truly heartwarming and inspiring to have a president who will use his celebrity to call attention to the least fortunate among us. There is no truer expression of the American spirit – compassionate and generous of heart.

Posted by: Bill P. | November 26, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Jake’s blog is so “link-phobic,” but I hope this posts. Bush has done the same thing. Does that make him the Messiah bearing gifts too?

Posted by: cynical black democrat | November 26, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

Cynic—A person who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing

Posted by: Dena | November 26, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

I have a 9 week puppy- Coton de Tulear- perfect for the Obama’s. Small, cuddly, hypo-allergenic, no dander, playful.

Posted by: linda | November 26, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

cynical black democrat- Do you actually think it would be possible for Obama to volunteer in a public venue without the press around? Even if he didn’t announce his presence, how long could he be anywhere before someone called their friends? Yeah, I get that it seems like famous people get a lot of attention for just showing up places while people who dedicate themselves to helping others remain anonymous and that seems wrong; but instead of thinking it’s pitiful I figure at least that person is using their fame to raise awareness of a cause or issue that most of us cannot begin to achieve. I mean, if I went down to the food bank it’s not going to make the papers and highlight the need for giving, is it? But when someone famous does, well, at least they’re making an effort and hopefully inspiring some who might not otherwise think of it to help. It’s not about recognition anyway, it’s about making a difference one way or another and everyone’s efforts count, big or small.

Posted by: mauimom | November 26, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

He has done this for many many years. Thank you Obama for showing us that all you really need is a caring heart. It is not about me all the time.

Posted by: becky (the real one) | November 26, 2008, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

I applaud the Obamas for volunteering, and the fact that it’s a photo op as well does not bother me. We need photo ops of leaders doing such things to remind others that it is important to follow their examples. yeah, most of us who volunteer all year round (I spend my saturdays at the local animal shelter and volunteer at the soup kitchen as well) would do so regardless of any call to volunteerism by any elected official. Still, if it influences anyone, it’s worth it.
I do want to point out, however, that President Bush has regularly done similar volunteer work and I do not see the gushing of praise directed at him as well. I don’t just mean flying to Iraq and serving the troops Thanksgiving dinner, I mean packing boxes at a food pantry and similar meaningful volunteer efforts.
The gestures of both these families, the present and future first families, should be applauded.

Posted by: moderate | November 26, 2008, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

Maureen, can’t you bring yourself to say something nice about those whose political views you do not share? I know there are some on here who are criticizing Obama for appearing for the press, rather than from sincere concern. But not everyone on the Republican side of the aisle shares that opinion. So why jump to defend Obama by criticizing McCain? he is not part of this discussion, but I will defend him and his family vigorously from your annoying attitude— he owns 7 homes, he doesn’t care about people; Obama only owns one mansion so he cares more. That is ridiculous. Why can’t you assume that both men are sincere in their desire to serve their country and their concern for their fellow Americans.
Yes, the McCains are wealthy. But they have used that wealthy to help those less fortunate in a myriad of ways both large and small. And those 7 homes they own? (well,actually, Cindy owns them) Some of them are occupied by relatives that she supports, not by Sen. and Mrs. McCain themselves. But we would not want that pesky little fact to get in the way of a good Thanksgiving sneer, now would we?
Yes, it is good to see Mr. Obama walk the walk. But please acknowledge that he is not the only public figure who does and that defense of his good gesture need not be accompanied by denigration of other public figures who are also worthy of praise and emulation, such as Pres. Bush and Sen. McCain.

Posted by: moderate | November 26, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Concerned in OH…You sound like you never helped anyone a day in your life. Too bad, if you did you would realize how very hard warming it is. You really shouldn’t be so angry.Let consider this union between America and Our new president a marriage, we are in it together for better or for worst. You know what things are looking better already, hopefully your attitude will change. Try some volunteer work it’s very good for the soul, you will see that others especially strangers will respect you for all your efforts. You sound like a very angry person to be. Let move forward and take a hint from the Obamas, do something for someone else. It’s not all about you.

Posted by: claudette | November 26, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

I’m very happy to have a President-elect who is good with kids, cares about other people, has compassion and a sense of humor and who genuinely puts folks at ease no matter what their age, race or station in life. He’s a good man and we will be very, very blessed to have him leading our nation. No one is perfect, but Barack Obama is a giant step in the right direction.

Posted by: Jean Vignes | November 26, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm

No sincerity! how can you say that? What president in history can you say has ever done this before Obama? He cares! I just pray he and his family has good protective security.

Posted by: Angeline | November 26, 2008, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm

Yeah, Bush and Cheney deal out billions to their oil, banking and military/industrial pals and the Obama family stops a moment to think about people who are not quite so rich – better start criticizing them.

Posted by: pefros | November 26, 2008, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

I want my $1000 for voting him.
A promise is a promise, unless you are not a man of word.

Posted by: expecting | November 26, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm

Even if some of you claim it’s a photo-op, you can’t deny Obama’s sending a great message to society- and encouraging people to volunteer.

Posted by: Grey Matter | November 26, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Never done that when he was a senator.

Posted by: Ojisan | November 26, 2008, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm

I think it’s wonderful that the Obamas gave of their time to the needy today. It is a good example for their daughters and shows compassion. I think he really DOES care. I think so far he is doing a GREAT job and have high hopes for his presidency. He is an inspiration to many who might not see much inspiration in their world. Those of who who are doing ok (myself included) should do what we can to help our communities and neighbors at these difficult times. Donate time or money to a food bank, shelter, any worthwhile group trying to help people. That is the spirit of the holidays.

Posted by: CA girl | November 26, 2008, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

To say this was a photo op is all wrong, Michelle and Barack have been handing out food in food lines in Chicago for the last 3 years, so this is nothing new and to call their home a manison is wrong also, it is an average 2700sq ft 3 bedroom home in a nice neighborhood of Chicago, so I would not call that a mansion at all. Bush’s home in Texas is much bigger than the Obamas in fact Laura Bush is refusing to move to the ranch permentaly, she said it is to isolated so they are buying another home in Houston.

Posted by: Kathy | November 27, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am

Way to go President-Elect Obama. I pray for u and your family everyday. God bless.

Posted by: Jasmine | November 27, 2008, 6:55 am 6:55 am

Angeline, you wrote: “No sincerity! how can you say that? What president in history can you say has ever done this before Obama? He cares! I just pray he and his family has good protective security.”
I am not one of those who questioned Obama’s sincerity. But I do take issue with your claim that no president in history has ever done this before Obama. Of course they have. As I pointed out in my post below, the Bushes do something similar every year. I dare say most presidents have a similar caring impulse and have done their share of volunteer work, both before, during, and after their presidency. (Look at Jimmy Carter, who was, in my opinion, a lousy president but who has done great charity work as an ex-president.) I am pleased that Obama is taking his place in the continuum. What I object to is statements like yours implying that he is unique and better than past presidents because he is doing this. Don’t be silly. And yes, he has done this in the past– for three years. That’s a good sign. But the cynic in me does have to point out that’s about how long he has been in the public spotlight as a presidential contender. I assume he did similar good works prior to that in other venues. At least I hope so.
Again, I’m not knocking the guy here. I am just asking for some sense of perspective– applaud people for doing good while NOT putting down others as if they have not had similar good impulses. And to the predictable poster — pefros, of course– who tries to say that Bush was only charitable to his oil/gas buddies and Obama is concerned about the little people– put a cork in it. BOTH these men care about the poor and unfortunate and BOTH have done things to improve the situations of those people. Stop demonizing Bush.
I am thankful today for our country, our government, and the leadership that has kept us safe and will continue to do so.

Posted by: moderate | November 27, 2008, 7:53 am 7:53 am

I’m a LOT more impressed with the thousands of average joes who do this year after year with no ulterior purposes and NO images to uphold in mind and who are so happy to be doing this without peaking out of the corner of their eyes to make sure the media is watching.
(insert rolling eyes)

Posted by: Michelle | November 27, 2008, 9:08 am 9:08 am

moderate, thank you! you are really the voice of reason. probably the only one on this posting site! Happy Thanksgiving!

Posted by: Rose | November 27, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am

you can tell the good hearted people from the cynics by what their posts read

Posted by: jonny | November 27, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am

I want my $1000 for voting him.
A promise is a promise, unless you are not a man of word.
Posted by: expecting | Nov 26, 2008 8:26:33 PM
Sorry, but in these tough economic times you will just have to settle for an extra can of yams, instead.
Would you care to accept an I.Obama.U. to make up the difference?

Posted by: OBAMANATION [uh-bom-uh-NEY-shuhn] | November 27, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am

I’d like to see Bush and his oligarch friends hand out charity to hungry Americans rather than stealing from poor America to give tax cuts to his wealthy, selfish pals. Never gonna happen.

Posted by: buzzie | November 27, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Obama is soooo generous. The year he and Michelle made over 4 million bucks he gave a whopping $2225.00 to charity. Impressive.

Posted by: Marie | November 27, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Marie, who cares. How much did you give?

Posted by: d | November 27, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Contrast that to Barbara Bush going to the Astrodome to ridicule Katrina victims.

Posted by: rat618 | November 27, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

How many of the people who have written here about the lack of sincerity of the help the Obamas gave today donated any of their time today doing something similar (for people they don’t know)?
I’ve always asked my kids & nieces & nephews to put their time & effort “where their mouths are”. If you don’t like what’s happening, don’t just complain about it by sitting at your computer – get out there & lobby for what you think is right!
I volunteered today too and I thank everyone who did something good for someone else.

Posted by: jd | November 27, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

re: Posted by: Concerned in OH | Nov 26, 2008 3:48:12 PM
Sorry … didn’t see it in the thread … but what did YOU do either actually or symbollically to help?
Even if you are correct in your cynicism, the optics probably will be worth their weight in terms of attracting contributions and volunteers.

Posted by: OneObservation | November 27, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

How many people on this post who are making cynical remarks about the Obamas gave up some of their time today to help those who are less fortunate than they are? It is always easier to talk than to get off you butt and lend a helping hand.

Posted by: Marty | November 27, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS MARY JOSEPH -DARLING HOLY FAMILY BLESS BO AND HIS LOVELY FAMILY THEY WILL BE PROTECTED FOREVER AND HEAVENLY BLESSINGS ARE ALWAYS THERE FOR THEM SO SHOCKING TO SEE EVIL PEOPLE BEING SO MATERILISTIC AND CYNICAL DO THEY EVER THINK OF THE POOR AND NEEDY AS OUR LORD JESUS NEVER THEY ARE JUST USELESS GOD BLESS PRESIDENT ELECT AND HIS FAMILY AND BEAUTIFUL AMERICA

Posted by: charlie | November 27, 2008, 9:38 pm 9:38 pm

Some Chicken littles on this thread write of photo-op and insincerity.
Why would Obama want to engage in photo-op after he has won the elections.
He is no longer on the campaign trail and he is not coming to ask for your votes until the next four years.
So for all the cynics who can still be made to see reasons, his act is from a sincere heart. Don’t forget that he was once a Community Organizer.

Posted by: Dare Nigeria | November 28, 2008, 3:08 am 3:08 am

AGAIN with the label of angry bitter republican if you don’t buy into the Obama hype. That’s getting really old. Think of something else, like “heretic” and “nonBeliever.” At least it would be fresh. And more accurate, as all nonBelievers aren’t republicans.
I recall a wise saying. Do good, and tell no-one. The only reason the rich give money as they do is to get recognition, through having a building named after them, for instance, or getting pictures taken. Ribbon-cuttings and handshakes while grinning at the camera ARE insincere. And so is arranging film crews at “heartwarming” moments like handing out food. Those with money who give anonymously, those with time who do things without a press release or any kind of recognition, those are the people to be admired. We know how much Obama gave to charity, we know what school(s) are named after him, we know every “good” thing he does. That is not to be admired. That is PR.
And what does “the season” have to do with being charitable?? That drives me crazy, hearing that “how can you BE that way during THE SEASON?” The real question should be, “Why are YOU only that way (giving, doing, etc) during THE SEASON?”
His minutes at the table giving out food was not endearing. It wasn’t. And I’m sure that the homeless weren’t thrilled with being frisked and wanded by the Secret Service before being ushered into the Presence of the One. Then identified in their pain on camera.
Not a reason for thinking he will ever do good for good’s sake.

Posted by: Laughing Cynic | November 28, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am

Laughing Cynic, you are my hero. Yes, we need a new name, like Heretics. Apparently dissent was patriotic when people were complaining about Bush, but say one word that indicates you have any doubts about any Obama pronouncement or action and people pile on to scream that you need to check your partisanship at the door and support your future leader. Dissent is no longer allowed. Scary sometimes, isn’t it?

Posted by: moderate | November 28, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Moderate, thank you LOL!
Yes, I am as vocal about my dissent toward Bush, but at least I could do it in public.
So, shall it be heretic or Heretic? :-)
Oh, and Dena, nice CoolSig definition. Try reading up on Cynicism. Part of a definition from Wikipedia : The example of the Cynic’s life (and the use of the Cynic’s biting satire) would dig-up and expose the pretensions which lay at the root of everyday conventions.
Cynics, true cynics, understand that people are capable of so much, but that very few (themselves usually included) will ever attain excellence. Because of simple human nature.
And we don’t jump on the bandwagon. The thing is too crowded.

Posted by: Laughing Cynic | November 28, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Photo-op or not, its more than anyone has ever seen Bush and his cronies doing. The point is, Obama and his family give hope and their presence encourages others to do what they can whether they have an entire day or an hour to give.
And to those who are whining about not feeling comfortable venting your negative opinions of Obama — obviously you have been Bush supporters the last 8 years.

Posted by: American with Hope | November 28, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

I appreciate well thought out comments by writers like Moderate and Laughing Cynic, and agree that everyone has the right to speak out. Isn’t that a founding principle of our country?
I am an Obama supporter, but if McCain had been elected, I would be thoroughly supporting him at this point.
Once a new President is voted for, he needs all of our support and commitment to help to make the changes we need, that our country needs to survive and grow. That’s what I meant earlier about ‘putting our effort where our mouths are’.
We need to participate actively, not just by voting and contacting our representatives and senators…I mean by putting into practice the things we say we want, like a sense of community, better food, lower oil prices. As an example, every dollar we spend (on a person by person basis) and where we spend it speaks loudly about what we believe is good for America (a big box store or a local store, etc., we make those kinds of choices every day).
And regarding the ‘photo ops’, before I complain about the Obamas or the Bushes or anyone, I look at what I pay attention to (like the photo ops) and if I don’t like it, then I contact the newspaper to complain, It’s the reporter who get the photo ops that people seem to want so that their papers will sell. I’ve been in the news business.
I also realize that the changes we’ll get from any adminstration will only be as good as what we the people, the taxpayers work for, not ask for.

Posted by: JD | November 28, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

JD, it’s nice to be appreciated. But to your solutions — it’s not necessary for me to support and commit to a President-Elect I didn’t vote for, and following works nonstop to suppress opposition. In fact, to do so would be the civilian equivalent of what the politicians have done. You can’t say one month that someone is evil and a danger to the country, then the next month shout to the country that he’ll be wonderful. Well, you can… the Clintons, McCain, and Biden did, anyway. If you find that acceptable, so be it. I don’t.
Getting involved… well, that would be “getting involved” in what he and his create. Again, not what I want. I’m not a joiner, never have been, and the worst thing he’s planning is this insane Mandatory Service scheme.
And as far as the photos…as you say, that’s what “the people” want to see. Nothing I do or say is going to change that. If I could, I would take Dancing with the Stars and American Idol off the air, but “the people” can’t seem to get enough of that. Probably for the same reasons.
All I want, bottom line, is to be able to make my own choices in life. Obama, word and deed, is a threat to that. He will “demand that you shed your cynicism, that you engage” in a “we know what’s good for you” world under him. That is not something I can support. And I will never understand how anyone can.
He will not have my support or commitment any more than Bush had. He doesn’t need it, anymore than Bush did.
And, JD, I can truly appreciate a civil discourse, so I thank you.

Posted by: Laughing Cynic | November 28, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

Sorry, should be “whose following…”
And I was on such a roll there :-)
That’s what happens when I take a minute to edit and scale back the inflammatory speechifying. Trying for “well-thought-out” and leaving bumps in the road.
I promise in my future oppositional posts to edit at least twice :-)

Posted by: Laughing Cynic | November 28, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm

Thank you, Laughing Cynic, for the reply and civil discourse – it’s so appreciated. And I did not express my self clearly as I now realize. I also will edit twice, but in my case for clear expression, not grammar!
I did say that I would thoroughly support McCain if he had won the election & that was in error – I would not support his (or Obama’s) policies if I did not (or find that I do not) believe in them.
One example of what I mean by my ‘support’ of an administration (perhaps actually my support of my idea of democracy) is taking things in my own hands locally, such as ridding myself of any sense of entitlement (say for a bigger car for lack of a better example) to commit to ‘a greater good’ as Aristotle described, in my case driving a small economical car, driving less days per week, carpooling, using the least fuel-guzzling means of transporting the goods I sell in my small business – all my small part of solving the national (& global) energy crisis. I also politically lobby for what I believe will help, both locally & nationally, on an ongoing basis, not just at voting times.
I think understand your issues with ‘getting involved,’ but I don’t suggest getting involved in as you put it ‘what he & his create.’ I would have similar reservations with just following government blindly.
Here’s another piece of my current ‘involvement’, outside of this conversation (I truly enjoy hearing your point of view) and the energy crisis changes mentioned earlier.
I have stopped purchasing anything containing High Fructose Corn Syrup (I like soda as much as anyone might) in order to stop my support for this industry & I encourage people to read about what has happened to our American diet & health. I lobby to cut back on bloated subsidies for growing the midwest corn that’s turned into this product and used in most of our packaged foods. My hope is that my participation will help people to see that these subsidies have helped to change our diets, which has impacted our health, and now greatly impact health care costs.
As you can probably sense, I also never step back & assume that I cannot be heard, cannot influence policies. I have begun to host gatherings in my area to start civil discourse among my neighbors and friends about what needs to change for our country to be a better place to live where we can make our own choices and have many, many options available to us as we work together in our community. We are talking about how to influence local and national policy.
And having worked in the news and with my state legislators over the years, I never take what I hear or read in the news as the truth. At this point, I am reading and researching Obama thoroughly (his writings & that which has been written about him that has good research behind it) so that I can decide what to watch for, what to support, what to try to influence.
I believe that our actual democracy could once again come from the bottom (from us?) up (to ‘them’) if we act on our beliefs in each choice we make every day. I believe strongly as the Native Americans believed, that we have to look 7 generations ahead when we make decisions, in order to make good ones.
What I do has nothing to do with who is President of the day; I’ve lived through too many Presidencies now and am hopeful that people will become involved in what ever way suits them. Thanks again. (I did reread this one, but it’s late here – here’s hoping it’s more clearly expressed.)

Posted by: JD | November 28, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

“American with Hope,” you wrote: “Photo-op or not, its more than anyone has ever seen Bush and his cronies doing. The point is, Obama and his family give hope and their presence encourages others to do what they can whether they have an entire day or an hour to give.”
But that’s the problem, AWH– your initial statement simply is not true. Bush has packed boxes for the homeless at food banks numerous times, for example, and there’s usually a photographer around to record the event. Yet folks like you don’t notice, because you were never as enamoured of Bush as you are of Obama. So you talk of “bush and his CRONIES” and insist they would never do anything so altruistic as volunteer as Obama has done. That’s meanspirited. Can’t you praise Obama WITHOUT putting down Bush? It does not appear so. And yet Republicans like me are constantly told to stow our partisanship. It is not a one-way street. I would love to see just one of the “usual suspects”– pefros, grey matter, or Maureen, for example– admit that Bush is also a good man who has done equally inspiring things, or say the same of John McCain. I won’t hold my breathe, even though I made a point of praising Obama for doing something charitable. I do not automatically denigrate everything he does just because I did not vote for him.
Oh, and San Pedro, please consider giving the “McCains are evil coz they own 7 houses a rest.” Does it not matter to you, for example, that one of the homes Cindy owns is lived in by her elderly aunt, whom Cindy supports? Does it not matter that they have given literally millions of dollars to charity and that Cindy has travelled around the world helping get much-needed medical care to needy children, one of whom she wound up adopting? The McCains also walk the walk and I would appreciate it if those of you rushing to say that we should not be partisan would acknowledge these good people for their efforts as well.
Haven’t seen a picture of BUsh or McCain doing charity work this season? That hardly means they have not done so. It means the cameras are following Obama, and, it sometimes seems, only Obama, these days.

Posted by: moderate | November 28, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm

JD, I really appreciate your passion. And I’m glad that you realize that real change does not start at the top, but at the bottom. What each of us does can indeed make a difference, and that is not predicated on who is elected president.
Like you, I like to think my small gestures add up. I volunteer at the animal shelter and soup kitchen. I shop locally and never spend money at WalMart, which has wrecked many a small business in my town. I recycle and use my cloth bags at the grocery and have switched out my light bulbs. But I try to also remember that everyone has their own ideas of what should be prioritized and what I think is essential to our future as a successful, peaceful, healthy nation may not be what someone else thinks is essential. That’s why I need to speak out to try to persuade others of my point of view. For example, I am a strong proponent of expanded use of nuclear power. I am concerned that the Obama administration will not be supportive of nuclear power. So I will keep on top of the news on th topic, speak to my elected representatives, and do whatever I can to see that nuclear power is given the support it needs. That’s how this great country works.
Oh, and Laughing Cynic, better hope Dena doesn’t take your challenge and read up on Cynicism. Do you really want her to learn the origin of the term? Or wonder just how much you have in common with Diogenes? Me, I would have been a Stoic back then, but I love those Cynics.

Posted by: moderate | November 28, 2008, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm

JD:
You’re welcome, and I’ve enjoyed this also. Perhaps this will start a new trend… imagine commentors catching onto civil debate techniques. One never knows. I’m certainly paying more attention to and scaling back on my more vitriolic statements. Generally only used when responding to vitriol launched first, but…perhaps going nuclear (as I sometimes do) isn’t necessary when the other party has only dynamite. Not meaning you, of course.
And goodnight!

Posted by: Laughing Cynic | November 28, 2008, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

LOL Moderate! You are quite right! And now, of course, she just might…
Does that mean I have to change my name to Laughing Stoic? Something of an oxymoron…
Let’s just say I’m not a “practicing” Classical Cynic.
Goodnight!

Posted by: Laughing Cynic | November 28, 2008, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm

Obama has been doing this for the last *three* years. Why so late to the scene? He’s actually been running for president for the last *five* years, at least.
He’s had photographers documenting his entire life since 2003 according to Axlerod.
Just a photo-op? No way! /s

Posted by: Old Dem | November 29, 2008, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

What does it matter if the Obama family did this 10 years ago or three years ago? People can and often make changes in their lives…some for the better. I find it disappointing and appalling that I have read so many negative comments about a good effort. How many of you gave any of your time during the holidays to help those in need? I didn’t but that WILL change during the upcoming holiday season. You people need to get a grip and get sone happiness in your lives.
I am not a cynic or heretic…I am very spiritual and have made it my choice to be positive and think on a higher level than what I have been reading here.

Posted by: ZeeZee | December 11, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am

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