Nov 2, 2008 1:31pm
PA GOP Runs New TV Ad Attacking Obama on Rev. Wright
Narrator: "If you think you could ever vote for Barack Obama, consider this: Barack Obama chose as his spiritual leader this man."
Wright: "Not God bless America, God damn America."
Narrator: "He also picked Wright to baptize his children."
Wright: "The US of KKK A."
Narrator: "Barack Obama, he chose as a pastor a man who blamed the U.S. for the 9/11 attacks. Does that sound like someone who should be president?"
Graphic: "No."
Wright: "God damn America!"
– jpt
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Are you surprise that the GOP is doing this? Give me a BREAK!!!!!!
Posted by: carl29 | November 2, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Ummm… didn’t they already see all of this stuff back when it was Clinton vs. Obama?
Whatever, the folks in PA are smart enough to make up their own minds. But doesn’t it seem that all the GOP has to run on is fear? Where are the ideas that they used to have? All they seem to have now is an ideology that they can’t quite agree upon, except for ‘beware of anything different’.
Posted by: MIguy | November 2, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
If that kind of language was the norm in Trinity Church, why do we have the same old video? Didn’t he go to church for 20 years? 20 years of videos and that’s all they have. McNasty will only alienate more those Independent voters.
Posted by: carl29 | November 2, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
jake missing information here. john mccain did not approve this message nor did his campaign pay for it or solicit it.
Posted by: nevada 2 | November 2, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
That ad has been running in Florida all weekend – no change in polls!
Posted by: Me from Florida | November 2, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Punks.
I’m glad they’re doing it. Let them. When Obama crushes the GOP, it’ll be the death of this race-baiting baloney forever.
Posted by: Tungsten | November 2, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Typical Republican right wing sleaze campaigning.
Nothing has changed, it’s the same old Republican party with or without McCain.
This is not change. It’s the same slimy politics of the right wing.
This is a fear and smear campaign.
Posted by: pefros | November 2, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Obama threw reputably newspapers off his airplane to make room for Ebony & Jet magazines.
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Once again…another lie
They made room for three Chicago based newspapers. And the three that were removed had not been with Obama on the plane during the whole campaign. Their placement was temporary. Another non-story the Pubs tried to use to make an “issue”.
The lies haven’t worked. They won’t work. Obama will win.
Posted by: Yawn | November 2, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Small minds! Fortunately the more reasoned person will likely win. And thankfully all this smearing will end..it has been dispicable!
Posted by: Dee | November 2, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
This is a legitimate concern for some and some seem to not care about it! Vote for who you want, but don’t cry when a persons close associations are called into question! Wright is only a drop in the bucket. This guy has slime all over him and he has a history of sleazy politics! That is how you make it in that business!! Go back and look at his previous campaigns….he has a lot of gaul to talk about transparency when he is one of the shadiest pieces of fecal matter to ever hold office andrun for the highest office in the land!!
Posted by: Badboy | November 2, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Last shred of McCain’s integrity now gone.
OBAMA = PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
McCAIN = FAIL
Posted by: Ed from MA | November 2, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Yeah Henry, old coat technology (which is extremely polluting) would have trouble surviving.
Clean coal technology would prosper under that system.
Posted by: pefros | November 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
COAL INDUSTRY = BAD !!
Even McCain prefers nuclear energy. (I agree with McCain)
Posted by: clabs | November 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Looks like “bankrupting the coal industry” is the daily parroting point.
You fail to mention that McCain supported the same carbon emission regulation.
Posted by: Fear of the Day | November 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
*coal
Posted by: pefros | November 2, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
What a surprise!
Posted by: Thinking | November 2, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Obama should have to live down his spiritual mentor for the rest of his life.
Posted by: Mesquito | November 2, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Did I just predict this yesterday? Damn, I’m starting to scare myself. Like I said yesterday, The GOP will launch an ad attacking BO with the REV Wright. Damn, it happened sooner than I predicted. Nonetheless, as I also predicted, It’s not going to work. This is of course is their last leg to battle on and this too fails. People are just sick of the ATTACKS and could care even less about rehashed information that isn’t going anywhere.
Again,
McCain will NOT be POTUS.
Also, the reason Palin’s medical reports are not released is because their is information in there that could damage the GOP and their hopes to gain the White House. After the election her medical report will be released and it’s astonishing.
You heard it hear first, again
PittBull61
Posted by: PittBull61 | November 2, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
“If that kind of language was the norm in Trinity Church, why do we have the same old video? Didn’t he go to church for 20 years? 20 years of videos and that’s all they have. McNasty will only alienate more those Independent voters.”
I guess that wasn’t enough for you! Some of you wouldn’t care if he was a stark raving lunatic. You would still support whoever agrees with your political ideology…especially abortion and gay rights! Obama is a slimebag just like Wright, Ayers, Rezko,
etc. etc.
Posted by: Oballah | November 2, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
No one cares. I’ve heard far worse stuff coming from the Alaska Independence Party, which Sarah Palin had far closer connections to than Obama had to this guy.
Posted by: rob | November 2, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
This is the approach that Palin said she wanted. To talk about Rev Wright.
I guess that way she doesn’t have to talk about anything relating to national or international politics.
She hasn’t been able to so far, so why start now?
Shame the Pubs can’t find a decent candidate they can talk about. They can only talk about the only real leader…and that’s Obama.
OBAMA WILL BE THE 44th PRESIDENT!
Posted by: Rachel in NC | November 2, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Aahh,
And McCain had everyone believing he didn’t want to follow Palin’s recommendations and play the “Wright” card.
Now we know he’ll do anything.
It won’t stick. Even if there was substance, the American people are tired of this tactic.
McCain cried wolf on too many fronts.
To little, to late.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
In Obama’s own words – he will bankrupt the American coal industry !!!!!
It’s from an interview Obama gave to the San Francisco Gate Interview January 17 2008 in which he speaks of his approach to global warming and cap-and-trade systems. It’s an approach I’m not sure the bitter gun clingers of Pennsylvania would appreciate
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | November 2, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Concerned in OHIO,
That was very funny. I’m still laughing.
PittBull61
Posted by: PittBull61 | November 2, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Mccain campaign is not running the ad
Posted by: Obama Girl | November 2, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Here’s a personal perspective, to counter a bit of this racist BS.
My mother and father just came to visit me here in Chicago for the week, and we were walking around outside the chain link fence they’ve set up around tuesday’s rally site in Grant Park. We were standing there and my dad just started bawling. Me too, of course. We’re white Jews, and find it overwhelming.
They grew up in Chicago in the ’40s and ’50s, and were college students in Illinois in the ’60′s when the civil rights movement thundered into the state. They saw the white flight hollow out neighborhoods – families were politically split apart. My maternal grandfather worked at International Harvester with blacks, and had no problem with them, but my grandmother was violently racist. Both my mom and dad worked on behalf of the civil rights movement, but it just got way too intense, too difficult, too much hate.
A story they still don’t like to tell still haunts my dad. My parents were grad students at U of I when there was a big flap about fair housing – the mayor of Champaign and his cronies were dead set against letting blacks move in. An open meeting about housing grievances was held with some sort of visiting federal authority figure (I still don’t know who). It was a pretty tense scene, with students there to voice opposition to the discriminatory policies in place. Then the mayor stood in the meeting, right next to my dad, and said “You don’t have to listen to these people”. My dad, outraged, stood up and yelled “You can’t do that!”. At which point, the mayor punched him. Really decked him. Not a small feat, since my dad had been an all-state football player. Naturally, the meeting devolved from there.
Sounds great, right? The civil rights people wanted to make my dad a big hero – standing up to oppression and all. Wonderful. But, afterwards he also got a steady stream of threats from the Mayor’s people, as well as other whites. His father was furious with him (he hated blacks, too). They had just had me, and it all seemed overwhelming with a new baby. So he backed down, laid low.
They ended up moving to New Mexico in 1970, and have had a great career far away from the rottenness that was Chicago (and Illinois) of that era. But it’s always bothered them – not “white guilt” so much as feeling like they knuckled under. This year, they’ve been working nonstop for Obama in NM, from the primaries until yesterday. My dad especially, he’s really persuasive.
Returning to Chicago, seeing this locomotive coming down the tracks, is just a little much for him. I think a lot of whites of his generation have these feelings, that even though they could have stood taller in the past, it’s just so good to see it finally coming around.
Posted by: Tungsten | November 2, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Badboy,
So then you think it would be completely fair for Obama to run Hagee ads?
Posted by: karen | November 2, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
***** McCain / Palin 08 *****A
===== THE LOW ROAD OR NO ROAD =====
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Tungsten,
Nice story. Good luck to your parents… and Obama.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Badboy,
“This is a legitimate concern for some and some seem to not care about it! Vote for who you want, but don’t cry when a persons close associations are called into question!”
You are so right. I have a problem with McCain’s associations with G. Gordon Liddy and Sarah Palin’s AIP affiliations. If your concerns are legitimate, then so are mine.
You shouldn’t cry about it, just vote for the candidate (Barack Obama!) you find to be most aligned with your needs.
Obama/Biden 08!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 2, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Badboy,
So then you think it would be completely fair for Obama to run Hagee ads?
Hell yeah! Make it interesting. Obama is a scumbag and you know it. Mccain isn’t much better, but at least he served our country! Obama is a little wimpy girly boy who sucks on cigarettes and was a known drug user. I guess you lib’s like that in your candidate! Very presidential!!
Posted by: Badboy | November 2, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Also, the reason Palin’s medical reports are not released is because their is information in there that could damage the GOP and their hopes to gain the White House.
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There’s no doubt about that. Even Palin’s answer indicated there was something of significance. She said they’d be leased and then didn’t. Again, she lied right into the camera.(She’s become quite adept at that)
I imagine it’s not a major conspiracy as some suggest (like the kid isn’t hers), but there’s something that would be a couple days of news and bad press they can’t afford.
Posted by: She Lied...again | November 2, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
its running here in oregon too seen it 5 times today on msnbc
Posted by: bhrandon | November 2, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
chuck: I see misinterpreting a comment Obama made about coal fired power plants is today’s Republican talking point. Since you guys are astroturfing all the threads, yes I’m cutting and pasting my reply (I wrote it originally a little while ago in a different thread).
Do you honestly interpret this comment, in regards to a carbon cap and trade policy (that McCain also supports):
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted…if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.”
As being the same as saying: “he would bankrupt the coal industry.”
Really? You see those two are the exact same thing? I have been trying hard to believe Republican voters were simply not informed, but it is getting difficult to not start to believe they honestly lack the ability to analyze data and think for themselves. McCain agrees with Obama that carbon dioxide emissions must be controlled, but I guess Obama is condemned because he is speaking about the specific realities and policy implications of what that means.
McCain, as is his tendency this election, simply refuses to give any sort of policy details – certainly not to the depths of the hundreds of pages of white papers on Obama’s site. And the Republican base thinks Obama is an “empty suit”?
Posted by: jhw539 | November 2, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Obama: I’ll make energy prices “skyrocket”
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | November 2, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
So this is the November surprize:
The GOP Sleaze Machine has slipped into high gear.
If McCain has any class, he should repudiate this, now, on national television.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Paul;
Thanks. It’s the hard work and individual stories of millions of ordinary people that are going to pull Obama across the line, against all of this republican BS.
Posted by: Tungsten | November 2, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
DIRTY DIRTY,THIS IS ALL THE FREAKEN REPUBLICANS GOT LEFT I DON’T WANT THEM RUNNING THIS COUNTRY THEY ARE LIARS CROOKS USERS….OHH MC BUSH WAS NOT GOING TO UDE DIRT,BULL AND HE IS A LIAR TOO.
Posted by: NH voter | November 2, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Badboy,
“This is a legitimate concern for some and some seem to not care about it! Vote for who you want, but don’t cry when a persons close associations are called into question!”
You are so right. I have a problem with McCain’s associations with G. Gordon Liddy and Sarah Palin’s AIP affiliations. If your concerns are legitimate, then so are mine.
You shouldn’t cry about it, just vote for the candidate (Barack Obama!) you find to be most aligned with your needs.
Obama/Biden 08!
McCain served our country while Obama was being schooled in the muslim religion!
Obama and Wright were God damning our country while McCain stood on the wall!
McCain was a POW while Obama never served anything but himself.
Still… if you align yourself with garbage you will be garbage yourself!
Keep drinking the Kool aid!
Posted by: Badboy | November 2, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
You can see the larger part of the Reverend Wright sermon on you tube.
Just search you tube for “Tell the Whole Story FOX! Barack Obama’s pastor Wright”
It’s actually an excellent sermon. The sound bites were pulled out out of context by the Republican right wing to make sleazy political points.
This slimy use of out of context sound bites is despicable given the hate they’re intended to fabricate.
Shame. Seriously. It’s reprehensible.
Posted by: pefros | November 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Tomorrow I predict that not only will the Sun rise, it will also set
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Interesting you’re saying that Palin hiding something is a sure as the sun rising and setting.
Can’t argue with that.
Posted by: Not Concerned in VA | November 2, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Nevermind Rev. Wright, although his black liberation ideas are unacceptable, what really astounds me is Obama having the chutzpah to say that he will put in place a system of caps and trades that will ensure the bankruptcy of any energy company that builds a coal fired power plant. Do the people of Pennsylvania and West Virginia know this? Is he blind to the clean coal technologies that exist today? Does energy independence mean nothing to man?
Posted by: jcarob | November 2, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Tungsten,
“Paul;
Thanks. It’s the hard work and individual stories of millions of ordinary people that are going to pull Obama across the line, against all of this republican BS.”
Yes. That’s the amazing thing about the Obama campaign this year.
I heard say there were a million volonteers on the ground, getting the vote out.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Tungsten
I am black and I am in Chicago. Stop race baiting. Obama is wrong for this country. PERIOD. He lacks experience. He lacks judgment. He buys his home from criminals. He lets a racist minister baptize his children. He treats William Ayers, Rezko and Khalidi better than he does his own aunt. He just threw his aunt under the bus and said they can deport her if they like.
Obama has been a terrible senator for Illinois and only collects a paycheck from my taxpayer dollars for doing NOTHING in this city with a murder rate of 432 people this year, the highest sales tax in the nation 10.25%, and the worst education system.
I could not care less that Obama is black like. Like MLK said, I judge someone on the content of their character. I am a democrat and a black person that would never vote for Barack Obama. My family suffered too, but that does not mean that I give my precious vote away to a socialist megalomaniac that has ideas and values completely at odds with my own. Obama does not represent anything that the DNC stands for.
Posted by: Stop Race Baiting | November 2, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
I guess John McCain’s word means nothing. Didn’t he say that his campaign would use Wright? If you can trust him on such a simple issue, then how can you trust him on anything? I quote John McCain, “I don’t believe that Senator Obama shares Rev. Wright views”. What is the truth John McCain?
Posted by: Mike | November 2, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
In Obama’s own words transcribed video
Let me sort of describe my overall policy.
What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there.
I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It’s just that it will bankrupt them.
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | November 2, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
What is Obama’s Civilian National Security Force he mentioned the other day?
I am hoping it is not ACORN thugs. Why is he introducing new topics this late in the game?
Posted by: today | November 2, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
finally. go mccain lets stop the media lies .obama is a threat to america. save us .VOTE MCCAIN
Posted by: dave | November 2, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Tungsten,
God Bless you,your father and mother.
we all remember chaney,goodman, and schwerner.Medger Evers, Jimmie Lee jackson, the list is long,and it includes all of the members of the One Human Family.
Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | November 2, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
pefros
You know none of the Pub lemmings ever watched the entire sermon. That takes too much effort. They just google “Obama’s racist preacher” instead to get the “facts”.
They like to base all their decisions on cherry picked ten second sound bites and fabricated quotes that match thier predjudices.
Old story, old party, old candidate.
GLAD IT’S GOING TO BE A NEW BEGINNING!
Posted by: Landslide | November 2, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
What is Obama’s Civilian National Security Force he mentioned the other day?
ILL TELL U WHAT IT IS .ITS A THREAT TO FREEDOM .EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD BE SCARED . ARE THESE THE NEW STORMTROOPERS.SAVE US FROM BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
Posted by: dave | November 2, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
I just read the GOP is using robocalls with soundbites from Hilary Clinton in the primaries, to attack Obama.
The sleezy scumbags will scrape the bottom of the sewers if they think it’ll win them a single vote.
This is Swiftboating at its lowest.
The American public won’t buy it this time.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Perhaps a little too ‘concerned’… as you said the sun will rise and the sun will set.
Although sometimes you can win by bringing down the other guy, I don’t think this is the time…
Posted by: MIguy | November 2, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Once this is all over, win or lose, Obama will be seen as a a politician that can inspire and bring out the best in America, McCain will be seen as a bitter old man that race-baited his way to the White House, a politician that divided America, just like Bush, a politician whose judgment will also be questioned and if he loses, any creditability that he had in the Senate will be gone. No one will trust him or want to work with him.
Posted by: Mike | November 2, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
Tungsten’s family is no different from my black family or ANY family that has struggled in Americia. That is what America is about. I am tired of my fellow African American’s acting as if they have corned the market on suffering and sacrifice in this country. What about the Jews, the Irish, The Italians, The Japanese that were put in internment camps, What about Latinos? the Native Americans. The Statue of Liberty stands for ONE nation , she does not stand for OBAMA NATION.
Stop with the race baiting we have a choice to vote for whomever we choose to without threats of racism.
Obama should have ran from Wrights church, he should have ran from Ayers, From Khalidi, He should have ran from Rezko, but Obama chose to buy a home from him and move next door to him. Next door to a slumlord who has kept blacks down for decades.
Posted by: Stop Race Baiting | November 2, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
dave,
You wouldn’t be in Oregon, by any chance?
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
This doesn’t surprise me at all. The GOP keeps beating the dead horse. They are desperate and the low road is now underwater!
Posted by: akskimo | November 2, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
What is Obama’s Civilian National Security Force he mentioned the other day?
ILL TELL U WHAT IT IS .ITS A THREAT TO FREEDOM .EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD BE SCARED . ARE THESE THE NEW STORMTROOPERS.SAVE US FROM BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.WE WILL END UP LIKE GERMANY IN THE 1940′S. VOTE MCCAIN
Posted by: dave | November 2, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Do anyone get surprised when they hear the song they have heard several times, and its an old one. The answer is a BIG NO.
Why should folks be surprised now to hear anything about Rev. Wright!!!!!!
Posted by: FM | November 2, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Tungsten
Let your father know, he’s still a great man. He did stand up publicly. He took the punch. He may have had to “knuckle under”, but he did have a family to be concerned about and threats back then weren’t idle ones.
I’m white, grew up in the late 70′s and early 80′s in northern IL, about an hour from Chicago. I’ve stood up where I’ve had an opportunity. It’s better to stand as long as you safely can than to cower in the corner and never say a word.
Good for them and for you. Be proud of them and yourself. I salute them.
Together – YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!
NOW ALL OF US “LIBERALS” NEED TO GO OUT AND VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TAKE BACK THE WORD “LIBERAL” AND CLEAN OFF THE SLIME THE REPS HAVE THROWN ALL OVER IT. IT’S OUR WORD AND WE CAN AND SHOULD USE IT PROUDLY!! BETTER AN UN-AFRAID LIBERAL THAN A RABBIT SCARED OF SOMEONE DIFFERENT THAN OURSELVES!!
VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: This is SO Old | November 2, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
NO IM IN BROOKLYN N.Y.
Posted by: dave | November 2, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Eeevil rantin’ Rev. Wright. Gotta love dat.
Posted by: Captain America | November 2, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Dave,
Sorry, I have a friend in Oregon who types in lower case. Just checking.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Modern Republicanism-a philosophy built on a falsehood*-has always been willing to go back to its McCarythyistic roots when pressed. So here’s what they would say if McCain was a Democrat:
“He lived for 5.5 years in a commuinist country, ate communist food, spoke to communist soldiers. and signed a written document criticizing the U.S.A. They brainwashed him and made him a one man sleeper cell. Actually, he revealed this when recently he said, “My fellow prisoners…”
*The lie is that they believe in smaller more effeicient government, and balanced budgets.
Posted by: B. Bear | November 2, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
YES WE CAN????WHAT DOES THAT MEAN .ILL TELL U WHAT BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA MEANS “YES WE CAN DESTROY AMERICA” GOD SAVE US FROM BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
Posted by: dave | November 2, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
I just checked out the Real Clear Politics poll site.
The race does seem to be tightening. Obama’s theoretical lead has been reduced.
The sleeze campaign is starting to bite.
Everyone who’s opposed to this had better get out and vote.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
An Oxford scholar was reportedly paid $10,000 to review Barack Obama’s autobiography to determine if it was ghost written by former urban terrorist and associate William Ayers, according to the Sunday Times of London.
Dr. Peter Millican — a distinguished philosophy professor at Hertford College in Oxford, England — was offered the money by Robert Fox, a California businessman and brother-in-law of Republican congressman Chris Cannon, the paper reported Sunday.
Millican was reportedly paid to use a computer software program to find suspected similarities between Obama’s best-selling 2004 autobiography “Dreams from My Father” and Ayers’ memoir “Fugitive Days.”
But Millican called the charges “very implausible” after a preliminary review of the two works.
FOX NEWS
Posted by: More SLEAZE from Republicans | November 2, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
McCain – 281
Obama – 257
Florida, Ohio, Virginia and Pennsylvania all go McCain/Palin!!!!
IDP/TIPP
Obama 46.7
McCain 44.6
THE MAC IS BACK!!!!!!
This is going to be FUN!
Posted by: Theallknowing | November 2, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Mike | Nov 2, 2008 2:14:04 PM
I guess John McCain’s word means nothing. Didn’t he say that his campaign would use Wright? If you can trust him on such a simple issue, then how can you trust him on anything? I quote John McCain, “I don’t believe that Senator Obama shares Rev. Wright views”. What is the truth John McCain?
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John McCain wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped him in the face!!!
Posted by: akskimo | November 2, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
“ALL THE KOOL AID DRINKERS LIVE IN OREGON .THEY DRANK THE POISION FROM BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA.”
Actually Dave, in Oregon, was the first person I knew who sent me an email about how Obama is supposed to be Muslim.
I still count him as a friend.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Thank you Tungsten for sharing your family’s story! Many of us do not stand-up when we should because trying to fight those in powers is almost always a losing situation. Your father showed great courage, but had to deal with reality and the obligation to his family.
As a child, I lived in an all white suburb of a major city. I can remember an amusement park in the city with separate swimming pools for African-Americans, which I thought was strange because I did not know there were separate rules for blacks and whites.
I never heard anyone in my family make negative statements about African-Americans.
In the early 80s when my son was about 6, we drove into our driveway with one of my son’s friends in the car. My son waved at an African-American child in the neighborhood. His friend said in a shocked voice, “your parents let you play with blacks?”
From the hateful comments on this and many other websites, it is evident that racism still exists. As others have noted, negative posters far outnumber positive posters.
I am excited about the improvement in racism that is evidenced by Obama’s support. I pray that a President Obama will help us all learn to treat all of God’s children the way we would like to be treated.
Posted by: Julie | November 2, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Obama: ASK NOT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY< BUT WHAT MY GOVERNMENT CAN GIVE TO YOU.
Posted by: review this, left wing | November 2, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Obama never even wrote his own book. Did you read today that Bill Ayers wrote it. That does it. Obama is a fake. Then to find out he will bankrupt us that do coal. Well we do coal in ND. Obama is a disaster to all of us. Wake up.
Posted by: Dean | November 2, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
OBAMAs Armed civilian “security force” who are they hunting? Opposers of “THE ONE”?
Posted by: review this, left wing | November 2, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Regarding coal:
Old coat technology (which is extremely polluting) would have trouble surviving.
Clean coal technology would prosper under that system.
Obama has it right.
Stop your fear mongering.
Posted by: pefros | November 2, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Try again, you’re talking about a 20 second clip of a longer speech, from July 2 in Colorado Springs, and totally taken out of context. Hardly, “breaking news.” The entire quote is:
“We are gonna grow our foreign service. Open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the peace corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy.”
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
He goes on from there. I’d say look up the video, but I know the smear and fear-mongers on here wouldn’t take the time to actually do their homework. It’s called “Barack Obama: Call to Service in Colorado Springs, CO.”
Nice try with the smear, but we aren’t buying them anymore
Posted by: This is SO Old | November 2, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Obama never even wrote his own book. Did you read today that Bill Ayers wrote it.
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I read that a stupid Republican fat cat paid $10k to find out that was a just an internet rumor
Posted by: Did you actually READ the article | November 2, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
All Obama does is lie. Now he didn’t know where his Aunt was when she was right at his 2004 win!!! Isn’t it convenient he never knows anything about anybody?
How can you let such a dumb man run our beautiful country? He is a radical and a liar just like Bill Ayers that wrote his book for him. I am a PROUD Democrat voting for McCain. I know he loves his country and he can be trusted.
Posted by: Fae | November 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
I understand all of the McCain supporters are frightened. You should go back & read your posts. YOU are what is frightening lately. It has been absolutely proven that Ayers did not write Obama’s book. The Republicans tried to con a professor into saying it did. Sorry dudes, no go. Stop repeating the rhetoric. You make yourselves look truly desperate.
Posted by: Cindy | November 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
“Stop Race Baiting”:
Obviously, we disagree. I get that. I’m surprised that a “black Democrat from Chicago” like you has gotten so good at echoing the right wing hate machine’s talking points, but to each his own I guess. Frankly, the points you’re making just sound tired at this point. Stick with it, though: you’ll be a celebrity in right wing circles soon.
Obama’s been a fine senator, and will be a finer president. Certainly better than that old coot McCain – as someone with connections with the Southwest, I can say that Mac’s “righteous maverick” act is just an act.
Posted by: Tungsten | November 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Rev Wright’s sermons were not anti-American, racist, or anti-Semitic – listen to the entire sermons. Wright’s G** D*** was in a sermon against the Iraq war, against the Bush administration, not the American people.
I applaud Rev Wrights for speaking out against the war. My pastor and other pastors preached against the Iraq war, although the style was much different. I could never vote for McCain because of his pushing for war in Iraq, Iran, and Syria within hours of 9/11. McCain told us the war would be quick and not cost very much.
Part of Wright’s sermon:
“War does not make for peace. War only makes for escalating violence and a mindset to pay the enemy back by any means necessary,” he said. Wright criticizes the Bush administration & it supporters for using Godly language to justify the war in Iraq. He equates using God in America as condoning the war in Iraq to the same perspective of Islamic fundamentalists
“We say that God will bless the shock and awe as we take over unilaterally another country, calling it a coalition because we’ve got three guys from Australia, going against the United Nations, going against the majority of Christians, Muslims and Jews throughout the world, making a pre-emptive strike in the name of God. We cannot see how what we are doing is the same thing is the same thing that Al-Qaeda is doing under a different color flag calling on the name of a different God to sanction and approve our murder and our mayhem”
Long history of government lies,“Prior to Harry Truman’s government, the military was segregated. But governments change. … under Clinton blacks had an intelligent friend in the Oval Office. Oh, but governments change”
“Where governments change, God does not change. God is the same yesterday, today and forever more. That’s what his name I Am means. He does not change”
Note: “chickens coming home to roost” comment was attributed not to Wright but former Ambassador to the Iraq, Edward Peck
Posted by: Julie | November 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
TIPP Tracking Poll: Day Twenty-One
Posted: Sunday, November 02, 2008
The race tightened again Sunday as independents who’d been leaning to Obama shifted to McCain to leave that key group a toss-up. McCain also pulled even in the Midwest, moved back into the lead with men, padded his gains among Protestants and Catholics, and is favored for the first time by high school graduates.
Date 11/2 McCain 44.6% Obama 46.7% Not Sure 8.7%
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | November 2, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Apparently neo-cons not only are the only “real” Americans, they have a “special lock” with God.
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Then they’ll happily admit it was God’s will when Obama wins and McCain loses.
Posted by: Good for God | November 2, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Joe said it and he’s right.
The Republicans can always seem to get the middle class to vote against their own economic self interest and get elected.-Joe Scarboro
Many low information voters equal low IQ voters. Elections are the true equalizer. The dumb person’s vote counts just the same and the informed person’s vote.
Anyone who looks at our economy, where we are in the world, and all the signs that show we are headed down the road to the destruction of the United States as THE world power, would seem to want to vote for Obama. The low information voter who screams, guns, god, country, “let the rich continue to run the country” will vote for McCain.
It’s scary how many of those ALL CAPS SCREAMING folks post here.
Posted by: Joe Scarboro | November 2, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Obama never even wrote his own book. Did you read today that Bill Ayers wrote it. That does it. Obama is a fake. Then to find out he will bankrupt us that do coal. Well we do coal in ND. Obama is a disaster to all of us. Wake up.
Posted by: Dean | Nov 2, 2008 2:37:43 PM
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Where did you read this at? The only thing I saw was on Fox.com and it only said that Dr. Peter Millican was paid $10,000 to review it and see if Ayers had written. Millican called the charges “very implausible” after a preliminary review of the two works. It was funded by Robert Fox, the brother-in-law of a Republican congressman named Chris Cannon.
Posted by: akskimo | November 2, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Why did Obama only release one lousy page for his medical records????? He is hiding his blood type that is why. Why do you think he won’t release his typeprinted authentic birth certificate???? Her doesn’t want you fools to know the truth about him as you would NEVER VOTE FOR HIM. All you Obamamites deserve him!!!!
Posted by: Fae | November 2, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Julie;
Thanks for that.
Unfortunately, the internet is the great un-civilizer. I scarcely imagine that most people behind all the hate would say that kind of stuff in polite debate. But just count the numbers – it’s actually probably no more than 100 or 200 venomous maniacs who spew this kind of stuff in overwhelming amounts. I don’t post much because it seems useless, but it’s important to counter the echo chamber.
Posted by: Tungsten | November 2, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Paul New Man, I read that to. I think its really low, they have mailers and robo calls going out. Its desperation. She is supporting Obama she is in virgina today for Obama. I hope obama supporters dont jump on her back because Biden said the same thing about Barack too.
Posted by: rachel | November 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
The truth of the matter Democrats call all working class poeple stupid. Republicans and inteligent people really know who created the financial meltdown and will vote for McCain. They know it was Obama demanding banks give WELFARE queens 300,000 dollar home loans with my money in the banks or Obama would charge them with RACIST CRIMES.
Posted by: Joe Scarboro | November 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Too little, too late. This is old news. Obama is the winner, so people need to accept it and get over themselves. Race has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Vicki | November 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Do you Pubs EVER say anything that’s not a fabrication or a half quote filled with omissions.
Seems like everytime you post something, it gets debunked a few posts later.
Why would ANYONE listen to you now?
Posted by: Truth Hurts the GOP | November 2, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Fae ~ I’ll send good thoughts your way as well. Your post about blood type is very disturbing. I feel for your fear. I’m sorry you’re scared. What you should be scared about is the thought that McCain/Palin get in and not only we have 4 more years of pain & suffering, but something happens to McCain and Know Nothing Palin gets in. That my friend, is something to REALLY be scared of.
Posted by: Cindy | November 2, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Our characters are formed in personal relationship.” So, 20 years with Rev. Wright is a lot of formation! :(
Which is better for our economy: Obama redistributing our wealth or McCain growing more wealth?
Obama will take more money from the Americans who already pay the great majority of income taxes and “spread the wealth” to many who don’t even pay taxes to begin with in the form of a government check. :(
Obama thinks it is his right to redistribute wealth, but it certainly isn’t the view of the average American worker, and it is obviously wrong.
McCain thinks the way for America to prosper is to leave Americans with more of their income, allowing them to do what they do best — create the businesses, jobs, and opportunities that drive our vast economy.
Government has to be paid for, and that money comes from guys like Joe the plumber. Politicians can either bleed him dry to fund their programs, or they can encourage Americans to create more jobs and more wealth – and keep government limited and effective.
It is your choice!
This former democrat and Hillary supporter voted for McCain/Palin 08! They are America’s only choice for authentic reform! :)
Posted by: aware2u | November 2, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
I can not imagine Obama,Reid and Pelosi in charge of america’s energy policy.The cost to the american consumer will be astronomical.
Posted by: Steave Cuozzo | November 2, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Tivo is the greatest invention ever– zip right over these stupid ads. Are they rehashing the Rev Wright boogeyman AGAIN? Sad. Who do they think is going to buy that out of context stuff at this point except members of their own base? The Republicans are once again over-estimating the stupidity of the rest of the voting public.
Posted by: mila | November 2, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Note that the narrator had to say that Wright “blamed the U.S. for the 9/11 attacks,” because Wright never actually said that.
Posted by: jock59801 | November 2, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
oh, to have a picture of Republican faces crying,
late night Nov 4th……
like the commercial used to say… ‘I’m Lovin it’..
Finally the xenophobic hate mongers will be gone.
Posted by: dewde | November 2, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
I find it most often happens that right wingers come here and accuse the Democrats of calling them racist – when really the Democrats haven’t been mentioning race at all.
The right wingers bring up race and then accuse the Democrats of throwing race in their face.
That’s the truth of the ploy.
Posted by: pefros | November 2, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
The truth is that both McCain and Obama are good men, intelligent and knowledgeable. Both want to do what is best for America. They disagree on what that requires, and our job is to vote for the one who most agrees with our own views on what we should be doing.
That is why I am voting for Barack Obama, because I agree with him most of the time, and do not McCain. I am voting for Obama because he is the first candidate in a long time who seems to talk to us like we are intelligent adults. Because every issue I have heard him speak about, I have been impressed with his knowledge of the complexities and balances involved. He is willing to listen to ALL points of view, and then he makes up his own mind.
I am voting for Barack Obama because he has shown an understanding of the need to return fairness and justice to America and the world. We have been waiting for such a candidate for a very long time, and were starting to despair of it. The craving for real change is much deeper than people seem to realize. It will not be denied.
Posted by: jock59801 | November 2, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
The truth of the matter Democrats call all working class poeple stupid. Republicans and inteligent people really know who created the financial meltdown and will vote for McCain. They know it was Obama demanding banks give WELFARE queens 300,000 dollar home loans with my money in the banks or Obama would charge them with RACIST CRIMES.
Posted by: Truth Hurts the GOP | November 2, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Y’see, here we are. We come back yet again to McCain’s biggest problem.
Regardless of how much money he’s raised, both he and the GOP have wasted more time talking about why someone shouldn’t vote for Obama rather than why they should vote for McCain. And now it’s too late to do it.
All Obama had to do was not come off as the McCain caricature. And that wasn’t too hard to do.
So now that McCain has the Cheney endorsement, it doesn’t matter what happened with Reverend Wright. He turns out to be merely someone Obama knows.
Bush and Cheney destroyed more lives than Wright ever even had a chance to.
Including the political life of McCain.
Posted by: kravitz | November 2, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
All this concern about McCain seems silly. Obama is the one that troubles me. I think he has PTSD from his time as a drug user. He often shows the signs, “trouble concentrating, irritability, anger, poor concentration, blackouts or difficulty remembering things, increased tendency and reaction to being startled, and hyper vigilance to threat”. Do we trust this guy with the worlds most powerful military and nuclear arsenal? I don’t.
Posted by: Badboy | November 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
I just went to the Pennsylvania GOP website and donated money.
Yesterday I donated money to the Republican Trust website to run more Reverend Wright ads.
I donated 1500 dollars to Hillary’s campaign but now I need to work against my own former party that has made a huge detour to the far left.
Obama does his best to appear mainstream but his far left socialist agenda is main reason for wanting the presidency.
Posted by: Carol 17 | November 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
I believe in the Republican Party. I believe that the founders of the republican party are led by divine providence and they once again will bring our people back from the brink of destruction. Our people led by the hand of God, will once more rule our great land as we have for 8 years. A time of expansion and racial placement – a great White Christian revival!
John McCain and Sarah Palin must win!!!
Posted by: Fae | November 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Tuesday it will be all over. McCain and the GOP will be disgraced. They are burning whatever bridges there might have been. The end of the GOP era is at hand.
Posted by: Thinking | November 2, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
That LOUD banging sound is this low road rogue tactic blowing back in the face of the GOP MACHINE.
Nothing like slinging mud at Obama’s back after he just steamrolled over you.
OBAMA 08
Posted by: Omentum | November 2, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Dave
haha
Your desperation is quite telling.
Two words for you to remember
President – Obama.
Posted by: Omentum | November 2, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
“You Obamamites deserve him”
yes we do, after 8 years of incompetence and corruption from the GOP, the whole country deserves something better.
Posted by: JR | November 2, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
AS I RECALL OBAMA SAID IN A STUMP SPEECH ,,,,BY THE WAY I AM BLACK , YOU PEOPLE IN THE SWING STATES FALL FOR OBAMA ,IT WILL BE A SAD DAY ,WHERE IS YOUR AMERICAN PRIDE !!!
Posted by: GERALD | November 2, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
OMETUM SORRY LOOK AT THE LATEST POLLS THE MESSIAH HUSSEIN IS GOING DOWN .
Posted by: dave | November 2, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Throw the bums out Obama
The GOP is never good for a Democracy. Simply because they are not for all the people.
Have McCain addressed ALL American? May I answer for you….. HELL NO.
Barack Obama rallys represent the true America because every color every age every nationality every ect etc is there.
Wise up GOP you do not represent America so can we take all the themes you have hijacked back such as:
Morality
Freedom
Patriotism
God
Brotherly Love
Thanks but no thanks for your GOP ticket to nowhere!
Posted by: Omentum | November 2, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
The GOP PARTY OF 2008 will forever be remembered as the party of hate, lies and sleaze.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
So long to coal – so long to jobs in PA, Wv. KY, Ohio – Obama has to pander some to the far left – no matter the cost. Wasn’t Joe Biden an old coal miner from Scranton – he worked in the mines before age 10. The middle class tax plan has changed from 250K to 120K – just ask Gov. Richardson.
Posted by: jamescbuilder | November 2, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
The real strength of the GOP is they manage to convince a bunch of poor (in the financial sense) hard working people believe that they actually care about values such as “life” (aka anti-abortion) and Christianity.
In reality, the GOP is the party of billionaire overlords.
Millions of poor fools are convinced they’re voting for what’s morally right, when in fact they are just sheep being led to slaughter by the billionaires.
What’s moral about GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld or any of their actions?
Why are you people sheep?
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
SOME CALL BARACK OBAMA A NEW BEGINNING
MY GOOD GOD!
THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO THE DOGS
YOU DONT KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK TO BUILD AND HOW MANY LIVES..
ALL THIS MAN EVER DONE IS RUN FOR OFFICE.
HE NEVER HAD TO DEFEND AMERICA.
OBAMA IS AS LIBERAL LEFTWING AS IT CAN GET
OBAMA =TAX AND SPEND=PELOSI/REID =SOCIALISM ON STEROID= RADICALISM.
THE MAN IS TIED AFTER $700 MILLION DOLARS
WITHOUT THE EXCESS MONEY HE WOULD BE NOWHERE.
RESPECT OUR HEROS
VOTE MCCAIN/PALIN
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | November 2, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
yaaaawwwnnn
November Suprise everyone
yaaawwwwnnn
or should I say
March/November Suprise
zzzzzzzzzzz
wake me Tuesday moring
I have to go and vote the sleaze out of Washington.
Posted by: Omentum | November 2, 2008, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
So long to coal – so long to jobs in PA, Wv. KY, Ohio – Obama has to pander some to the far left – no matter the cost. Wasn’t Joe Biden an old coal miner from Scranton – he worked in the mines before age 10. The middle class tax plan has changed from 250K to 120K – just ask Gov. Richardson.
Posted by: jamescbuilder | Nov 2, 2008 3:10:14 PM
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Obama is for clean coal technology, and with that will come new jobs. Gov. Richardson has admitted that he made a mistake in quoting $120,000 saying “I just made a mistake. I’ve said before that anyone making under $250,000 a year would get a tax cut.” I expected the Republicans to jump on it, but it’s ridiculous and a last ditch effort.”
Posted by: akskimo | November 2, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
I can’t believe McCain is doing this.
I am a republican, I was gone vote for McCain after this add. I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA.
Posted by: A.E | November 2, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Most of our National Guard are serving in Iraq, just in case you haven’t noticed.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
I was thinking, who would benefit the most from a supposed tightening in the polls?
The media, of course. The more exciting this thing is, the more people tune in, the more they can charge for adverts.
Simple math.
This is going to be a landslide
Posted by: Paul New man | November 2, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
I saw another version of this in Utah this morning. Utah, where McCain is ahead by over 25 points!
Why would they waste money advertising this in Utah?
Posted by: cincyr | November 2, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
”
The real strength of the GOP is they manage to convince a bunch of poor (in the financial sense) hard working people believe that they actually care about values such as “life” (aka anti-abortion) and Christianity.
In reality, the GOP is the party of billionaire overlords.
Millions of poor fools are convinced they’re voting for what’s morally right, when in fact they are just sheep being led to slaughter by the billionaires.
What’s moral about GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld or any of their actions?
Why are you people sheep?”
tip of the hat to Paul New man
Posted by: pefros | November 2, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
pefros: What is moral about taking money from hard working people and giving it to others? Here is what the man that wrote the Constitution had to say about it.
|The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. —Thomas Jefferson
Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have … The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases. —Thomas Jefferson
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. —Thomas Jefferson
“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.” —Thomas Jefferson
Please commont on his opnion.
Posted by: Retired old guy | November 2, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
I see alot of Father Pfleger and Rev Wright in Obama.
The arrogance, the mocking, the holier than thou attitude, the animosity for the rich and America.
BO spent 20 years with them–they were his mentors. They must be so proud.
Posted by: sam | November 2, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
More Rev Wright Please
I want you to really really really look stupid.
I don’t feel sorry for the folks running these ads. I feel sorry for the folks who would actually let this sway their minds.
Posted by: Omentum | November 2, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
If images of Rev Wright cursing America and knowing that Obama sat there listening to that hate for 20 years–if that doesn’t turn voters off I don’t know what will.
Posted by: bailey | November 2, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. —Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: Retired old guy | Nov 2, 2008 3:35:15 PM
The very people Obama wants to help are the middle class who have been working their rear ends off. The Republicans have been giving to the wealthy and have forgotten about we, the middle class.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
This is nothing less than appalling!!!! For the Republican Party to stoop this low has to be a sign of desperation – scare tactics – in the 11th hour! Good heavens, the Republicans have NO morals! Republicans, STOP the hate!!!
Go Obama/Biden!
Posted by: Richard | November 2, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
OH PAHHHLEEZEE!!! This is nothing less than appalling!!!! For the Republican Party to stoop this low has to be a sign of desperation – scare tactics – in the 11th hour! Good heavens, the Republicans have NO morals! Republicans, STOP the hate!!!
Obama is NO longer affiliated with this man! Are you Republicans THAT STUPID to think that ANYONE would stand by this preacher?!? If you do, there is no HOPE for your narrow minded thinking then!
Go Obama/Biden!
Posted by: Richard | November 2, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
—Jwench | Nov 2, 2008 3:43:33 PM
Am I the middle class? I worked for over 40 years to get where I am today. Put my wife and three kids through college while doing so. On Christmas day 1969 my wife and I had 39 cents between us. Through hard work, frugal living and wise investments I live in retired comfort thanks to the opportunities my country has given me You have the same opportunities. Quit whining and go to work.
Posted by: Retired old guy | November 2, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
no wealth no jobs without jobs ull be waiting in line at the soup kitchens for barak hussein obama for handouts. wake up before its to late .vote mccain
Posted by: dave | November 2, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Am I the middle class? I worked for over 40 years to get where I am today. Put my wife and three kids through college while doing so. On Christmas day 1969 my wife and I had 39 cents between us. Through hard work, frugal living and wise investments I live in retired comfort thanks to the opportunities my country has given me You have the same opportunities. Quit whining and go to work.
Posted by: Retired old guy | Nov 2, 2008 3:55:19 PM
With all due respect, I have worked since the age of 14, sometimes two jobs. I have worked my a$$ off for what I have. I worked to buy my first car, because my parents wanted me to know the value of a dollar. So don’t insinuate that I am a lazy a$$, sir.
I have a good paying job currently. I wouldn’t have a problem paying a bit more in taxes if it alleviated somebody else’s hardship. I have enough to cover my bills with a bit leftover. Some people don’t have that luxury.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
It’s not smearing Barack Obama to talk about what political beliefs he has chosen to embrace throughout his life. He has also made John McCain’s associations a huge issue in the campaign. Just recently he said: “After all it was just a few days ago that Sen. McCain said that he and President Bush share a common philosophy.”
Sen. McCain has associations with people, including Bush, from being a Republican in the Senate for so many years. Sen. Obama has only been there a couple of years, but he did make decisions very definitely based on political beliefs during his career. So who are some individuals and groups that Sen. Obama “shares a common philosophy” with?
One is Rev. Wright. This was his church of 20 years. You don’t just randomly choose a church and then stay there if you don’t share its core beliefs, unless you’re there for reasons other than your beliefs.
In the 2001 radio interview that’s surfaced, Obama himself said that he favored “major redistributive change” through legislation rather the courts because that was likely to be a more successful route. He explained the Constitution as the founders devised it seemed to make such change through the courts difficult – at least, he added, as the Constitution has been interpreted so far by the courts since it was written: “It (The Warren Court) didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it’s been interpreted, and the Warren court interpreted it in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties.”
While Obama himself doesn’t bring it up, there are liberals who are looking to make the Constitution say what government has to do for you, as Obama described it. There was a “Constitution in 2020″ conference at Yale in 2005 held by the American Constitutional Society which discussed the need for our country to adopt “positive rights.” The Weekly Standard has written about it in “What Liberals Want.” One major participant in the conference, Cass Sunstein, is actually an Obama adviser, and he came to his defense on the 2001 remarks this week (“Obama advisor pushes back on ‘redistribution,’” Politico).
On Ayers, although he engaged in terrorism when Obama was still a child, that’s not the end of the story. His Weather Underground past is actually only secondary. If you look at Ayers’ words and actions since then, including during the time in which a fair investigation would say that he and Obama were friends to some degree and part of a circle or community of like-minded liberal people, he has boldly made known that he is a communist, as he has described himself. His politics is his life, as it was when he was a terrorist, but these days he openly promotes Marxism and communism as a professor in the ultra-liberal elite circles of the university world, where Marxism is welcomed and openly thrives. At a 2006 education conference in Venezuela, addressing Hugo Chavez and the “comrades” in the audience, Ayers said: “We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution, and I’ve come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both the Venezuelan and the international struggle—I look forward to seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and deeply humane,” (“World Education Forum – Bill Ayers”). Look at what his books are about and research his life now, and you’ll see that no one could get close to Ayers without knowing he’s a “radical leftist,” as he as also called himself. As a state legislator in 1997, Obama was asked for a book recommendation by the Chicago Tribune, and he recommended Ayers’ “A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court,” in which Ayers mentions him (“writer Barack Obama”) on page 82 as one of his neighbors.
And there are other places where Marxism shows up in Obama’s life: his childhood family friend/mentor, Frank Marshall Davis (“Dreams From My Father”); his attraction to Marxist professors in college (“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists,” “Dreams From My Father”), his community organizer work with followers of Saul Alinsky, and his work with Ayers, including as president and board chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Ayers’ pet project, which gave money to leftist groups, including another Ayers’ project, the Small Schools Workshop, headed by Mike Klonsky, formerly SDS (like Ayers) and also formerly head of the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) in the U.S. Obama also ran for Illinois State Senate as a member of the Democratic Socialist-sponsored New Party, as the blog Politically Drunk on Power uncovered through a number of publicly-available online records (“Web Archives Confirm Barack Obama Was Member Of Socialist ‘New Party’ In 1996”).
Today, Obama’s official blogger is Sam Graham-Felsen. A 2003 Harvard Crimsom article on a group of college roommates emphasized his Marxist beliefs, including that he hung a Soviet flag on the dorm wall and read and promoted the reading of Marx ((“The Four-Year Path to a Quincy Suite”). Obama also had the Decemberists, an openly pro-communist band who named themselves after a lower-class uprising and perform the Soviet anthem in Russian, open and close for him at a Portland, Oregon, rally in May. He also posed for pictures with the band.
This hardly begins to cover everything, but it is enough to show that those who believe Obama isn’t socialist are believing what he says now and while ignoring the available evidence. These things aren’t just little details or “sharing his toys in kindergarten,” as he’s said to try to deflect attention from his record. They’re the center of his career.
Posted by: Erika | November 2, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
jwench its a free country if u really want to help other people u can give as much charity as u want but i dont want barak hussein obama to take my money and give it to who he wants.ill give it to who i want.look how much charity obama and biden gave .they gave a few penniies.they are liars .
Posted by: sam | November 2, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Posted by: Erika | Nov 2, 2008 4:13:11 PM
I find it amusing that when we democrats bring up McCain’s associations that not one of you will discuss them.
KLA
US Council for World Freedom
G. Gordon Liddy
Willam Timmons
How about discussing these for a change.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
jwench its a free country if u really want to help other people u can give as much charity as u want but i dont want barak hussein obama to take my money and give it to who he wants.ill give it to who i want.look how much charity obama and biden gave .they gave a few penniies.they are liars .
Posted by: sam | Nov 2, 2008 4:15:29 PM
You have the nerve to call Obama a liar, when that is all your candidate and his VP have been doing in their campaign. Truly a double standard we have here.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
With the amount of money that Biden and BO have made, you mean to tell me that Biden wasn’t able to give more than $3,000 in charitable giving? Oh please, I make no where near the amount Biden and BO make and I have given far more than that in just the last year (i.e. church, soup shelters, relief in Africa, etc.) Now the damacrats feel that I should pay more out of my paycheck. Come on people. STOP DRINKING THE KOOL-AID, it has poison in it. And the only ones that are trying to make this campaign a race issue is BO and Biden themselves. Remember the words “What I want to do Joe is spread the wealth.” “What I wish would have happened after the civil rights act was signed, is that the judiciary system would have had the ability to redistribute.” Redistribute what and to whom? Oh please, read through the lines, and listen to the sound bites. BO’s agenda has been made perfectly clear in this last week. I would like to hear BO answer that question himself as to whom he wants restribution to be given to. Can anybody answer that question, if so I would love to read it.
Posted by: Madasheck | November 2, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
“I just want you to be clear – it’s not that I want to punish your success – I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you – that they’ve got a chance at success too.”
Obama said, “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. If you’ve got a plumbing business, you’re gonna be better off if you’re gonna be better off if you’ve got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you, and right now everybody’s so pinched that business is bad for everybody and I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
That one little snippet is taken out of context. If you read all of what he said, he wants everyone to have a chance at success.
Posted by: Jwench | November 2, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Just yesterday McCain was getting all kinds of credit for his refusal to “stoop” to this kind of stuff. Desparation is apparently chipping away at “principle.”
Let rip with the Pallin pastor ads!
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 2, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
I say should a man who led our troops and country on an ill-conceived, poorly planned and disastrous path to war be Presdient?
Posted by: Lori | November 2, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
Brooklyn Democrat
HAH!
B O has played more dirty tricks and plundered our airwaves with more flagranly sleazy commercials about Palin and McCain… but especially Palin… then you can count on a triple level abacus!
At least when McCain releases an ad, it is FACTUAL…. not illicitely tactical.
BOOOOOH FOR B O !!!!!
Posted by: america*centric | November 2, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
,,, and where DID B O pick up that strange twang?
In North Carolina? Southern Florida>
In the Midwest, he doesn’t say “gonna”,
“s whole bunch of customers”?
He’s a phoney thru and thru,
What you wanna hear he’ll shout at you!
Posted by: america*centric | November 2, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Why isn’t anyone talking about how Sarah Palin’s husband was a six-year card-carrying member of the AIP, a group that detests the U.S. Government.
Posted by: Holly | November 2, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
The PA GOP did a good job with this ad and it’s about time too. McCain wasn’t going to do it and his supporters were waiting for this to come out. Rev Wright is included with Ayers, Rezko, Khalidi, and many other unsavory characters as a reference to Obama’s poor judgement.
Past judgement is a reflection of future judgement.
Posted by: S Adams | November 2, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Why isn’t anyone talking about how Sarah Palin’s husband was a six-year card-carrying member of the AIP, a group that detests the U.S. Government.
Posted by: Holly | Nov 2, 2008 6:28:50 PM
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Being a member of the AIP is not a bad thing. It’s not like being in the KKK. AIP advocates positions similiar to those of the Constitution Party and Libertarian party. They support gun right, privatation, home schooling and limited govt. The AIP has appeared on the ballot in Alaska in all state elections since 1970.
Many other states and cities in U.S. history have tried to secede and some have succeeded.
Posted by: S Adams | November 2, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
america*centri/c
I guess Obama did vote for child sex ed…?
Reality check – 9/11 happen because of U.S. foreign policy blunder
Posted by: MM | November 2, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Jwench:
I don’t know how old you are, but those of us who are a little older have been paying for opportunities for those who have not had them for a long time.
There has been
1. school bussing
2. Head Start Projects
3. School lunch programs.
4. Food Stamps
5. Aid to dependent children (welfare)
6. Minority hiring preference.
Now, I live in the same county as Senator Obama – and let me give you a sample of our headlines:
1. Chicago has the highest number of homicides in the nation. Higher than LA or NYC – which are larger cities. Jennifer Husdon’s family – who lived in Senator obama’s neighborhood, is just the latest example. There is at least one school age child killed weekly. I worked with two women who were touched by murder on Obam’s south side. One was killed, the other had a cousin killed in a home where five people were killed. This was in less than a year.
2. The schools in Senator Obama’s neighborhood are funded by federal and state taxpayers- 85% of it. I live 8 miles away, and my shcool budget is supported 96% by the property owners in the district. One of the Reverends in Senator Obama’s neighborhood is looking for more money and not looking for a tax increase in his own neighborhood. My taxes for our schools went up about $1200 in the last 5 years – $500 this year alone. I do not nor never had a child in the schools. The city schools do not perform well and Senator Obama does not send his children to public schools. He’s getting a break on his taxes for public schools, because the other areas of the state are paying for them.
3. Chicago’s mayor advised this that he needs to move 80 more garbage truck to one man crews, which by the way, most suburbs have had for years. Why did not mayor say he needed to go to more one man crews? Because the patronage workers who have these jobs have a daily absentee rate of 30%. This is on top of a recent study that indicated that street and sanitation workers get paid for 8 hours and work about 6. Yes, I’ve done okay in my career – working 12 hour days, working through lunch.
4. My county and Obama’s has the highest sales tax in the nation. The head of the county board has always clearly been for income redistribution. He was endorsed by Senator Obama even though there was a serious reform candidate in the democratic primary. When this man had an incapacited stroke, just before the general election, this man’s son was put there in his place. He has since made news for the continuous hiring of realtives at high salaries.
5. Obama endorseed a man for state treasurer who was 29 year old, had no experience, and had never voted in an election – and is rumored to be target of prosecutors who jailed Obama’s friend Rezko. I never voted for this guy because of the rumors then about corruption surrounding his family’s banking business.
I am all for the making an investment in our nations future, even if it means I might pay more taxes. I am not for someone wanting to “spread the wealth” – especially when there has been such small return on the wealth that has already been spread. Additionally, it is being spread at every level of governement, not just the federal. It will not apply to only those who make more than 250K or 120K, whatever the latest figure is coming out of Obama’s campaign. I used to be more sympathetic tto immigration issues – but I now decided that the democrats are not interested in stemming the tide of illegal immigraion because they become democratic voters, and I am paying the taxes for their benefits.
I am for the Obama of his speeches and his biography – who wouldn’t be.
I am not for the garden variety politican named Obama… The one that took Mondays off in the Illinois State Senate, the one who sat on foundations ffor the purpose of meeting influential ppeople to further his career, rather than further the interests of his constituents in any of his elected jobs. I am not for the college instructor ir the editor of the Harvard Law review, who never published anything to add to the scholarly work in his profession, but did write his second book as a US Senator, when he wasn’t planning his run for the Presidency.
I don’t respect his work ethic, and see ihim as a taker, not a producer – and I think his career clearly supports that. He hasn’t done much to improve his neighborhood or mine. I don’t think he will be anymore interested as President. He will start writing another book as soon as he tgets to the White House, if his track record holds. Someone else is going to do the ddreary work of governing. He will have time only to surround himself with the adoring masses.
Obama has never come up with a new idea to solve the problems of the neighborhood he knows well – except for well worn sixties ideas – which have fallen short.
I have no idea why anyone would vote for someone with so little accomplishment in any job. I don’t think he’s ever held a full time job.
Posted by: Mary OK | November 2, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Mary OK (LOL) Must be Mary OK to Lie. Don’t worry. You’ll have 4 years to make some more stuff up. (LOL)
Posted by: Dems | November 2, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
What happened to John McCain and are we ever going to get him back? This is a man who hired the sewage who slimed his own baby in 2000 in SC for his 2008 campaign. He will do anything to win this election. This is not the man I once supported. How can he live with himself?
I find Sarah Palin’s current religious associations (the witch-hunter, the end-of-days people, the suggestion that Alaska will be a safe place during “the Rapture”) to be far more shocking than Obama’s pastor, who clearly goes off the deep end sometimes and has some major ego issues.
Do all of you honestly believe that America’s school are full of sorcery and witches? That’s what the guest preacher at Sarah’s church said, right before he annointed her – on camera, with her pious approval. I think Sarah’s real religious beliefs are far, far, far right of most Americans – she’s just hiding them to get elected. Stealth candidates do that everywhere. She doesn’t have a little star of David in her office because she loves Israeli intellectuals, or the kibbutz system. She has a flag because far right evangelicals believe Israel must exist for the second coming f Christ in our lifetime – and that wars in the Middle East will also bring that about. If Jews convert, they do fine. If not – oh boy, they do not do do well at all.
Sarah is aware, isn’t she, that her favorite country has socialized medicine? I think it always has.
Posted by: Mara | November 2, 2008, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Dems
I just love Obama’s supporters, such as yourself. Can’t handle the facts. And you are all so rude – calling people liars before you do your own research.
You can google most of what I wrote and find it well substantiated in more than one respected publications.
Part of the reason I dont trust Obama is because of his supporters. They haven’t researched him at all, which considering he has no public record, everyone should be doing. He is 48 years old and has accomplished primarily his own self advancement – and so many people don’t think that maybe a few more years as a Senator is in the voting public’s interest.
Posted by: Mary OK | November 2, 2008, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Mary OK, you wrote:
“He is 48 years old and has accomplished primarily his own self advancement – and so many people don’t think that maybe a few more years as a Senator is in the voting public’s interest.”
His lack of much a record in Washington was part of the consideration to have him run now. Tom Daschle has said: “I tell him he should do it and that he shouldn’t assume, if he passes up this window, that there will be another because the longer he’s in Washington, the more history he has. And the more history he has, the more he’s going to be explaining his votes and his actions and his statements and his positions that undermine his message,” (“The Choice,” PBS).
Posted by: Erika | November 2, 2008, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Jwrench, you wrote:
“I find it amusing that when we democrats bring up McCain’s associations that not one of you will discuss them.
“KLA
“US Council for World Freedom
“G. Gordon Liddy
“Willam Timmons
“How about discussing these for a change.”
I think if the Democrats thought it would have helped them more than hurt them to discuss these things then they would have brought them up and made sure the media did too, especially when Ayers was recently brought up by Gov. Palin. But public talk of these things would likely only fuel more talk of Obama’s associations, one thing they certainly want as little of as possible, and Obama would likely come off for the worse in any extensive comparison of the two. Just on the outlines of Obama’s associations, they’re troubling, and the details, so many of which haven’t received much if any coverage, only make things worse with most people who aren’t liberal to begin with. They make it clear that Obama’s whole career has been based on leftist and socialist principles which he firmly believes in and that he’s way left of mainstream America.
On the other hand, these associations of McCain aren’t much in view of his long Senate career. If he were of Obama’s age and experience, and as involved with them as Obama has been or was involved with his associates, that would be something of a different matter, although allying oneself with socialism/Marxism/communism is still hard to match. That means revolution, seizing private property, the loss of all personal rights and freedoms, and rule by a one-party dictatorship – destroying the democratic foundation of our country.
And in context, it’s not much, if anything, that McCain supported the KLA or was connected to the US Council for World Freedom. Actually working in politics and government does create strange bedfellows, including even to the point of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” And when you’re working on world problems, many people and organizations aren’t going to be squeaky clean or ideal. Look at us allying ourselves with the Soviet Union against the Nazis and with Muslim fundamentalists after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. On Liddy, as McCain has said, he paid for his crimes with prison, unlike Ayers, and the only connection seems to be that McCain has been on his show. Of all of these, Timmons is probably the one that might have any traction whatsoever, but even then, he’s par for the course in politics and business. Despite the Iraqi oil scandal, a Time piece on him says he registered in 2008 to represent “a wide range of companies and trade groups, including the American Petroleum Institute, the American Medical Association, Chrysler, Freddie Mac, Visa USA and Anheuser-Busch” (“McCain Taps Lobbyist for Transition”). If he’d been charged in the scandal, that would be very different.
Posted by: Erika | November 2, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Jwench,
Sorry, I see that I got your username wrong.
Posted by: Erika | November 2, 2008, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
As one who attends a UCC church, would ask other parishioners to contact this PAC and ask them to bring down this ad in the next 2 days, or we will expose McCain for what he truly is , i.e. an Episcopalian disguised as a Baptist!!!!
Given Senator Obama’s repudiation of Rev. Wright’s ill advised remarks, this last minute kicking of the beast is way over the top.
Posted by: Robert Campbell | November 3, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Erika thanks your comments.
I am well aware that many people advised Obama to run while he was baggage free. I am actually voting against the senior senator from Illinois because he was one of the people who gave Barack Obama this advice.
Maybe everyone who aspires to the Presidency should do what Obama did. Or is it because he’s so much smarter, better intentioned, more charismatic than everyone else that he doesn’t need to demonstrate that he is willing to take risks or work on behalf of the taxpayer? He doesn’t have to take on issues that might improve people’s lives to demonstrate he is worthy of the voters trust. He shouldn’t have to contribute to a profession or show up at his jobs. He may have to vote in a manner that may interfere with his ambitions. Gee, let’s all raise our children that way.
Erika, surely you are not saying that if actually doing the job you are paid for is potentially bad for your ambitions, its okay not to do it?
In the business world, we meet people like Obama all the time. People who adopt a fake seal, fight for the corner office, take credit for the work of others. Associate with people several levels higher in the organization to show that they deserve to be at that level. Never once worry about whether they contribute to the goals of the organization or serve the customer. Yeah, I’ve really enjoyed working with people like that.
Obama’s associations and his quest for higher office have done plenty to undermine his message. And none of this can or should be excused because he has done no work on behalf of his constituents to counterbalance it. Google “Alexi Gianoulias Obama Broadway Bank Loan” to learn a little more about Obama’s activities in Chicago.
If you like Obama’s ethics and bi partisanship message, you should be voting for McCain, who has actually worked in a bi partisan way for ethics, and against earmarks, McCan never voted for the “bridge to nowhere”. Obama and Biden did, twice.
As for Obama’s message, are you sure that it is not “just words”. I’m not. He has spent too much time cultivating his career, and not enough time working on behalf of the taxpayer. For being 48 years old, I am surprised at how little he has done for anyone other than himself.
Someone put togeher a video of Obama apologizing for being late. He was always apologizing for missing their speeches and presentations. He arrived just in tme for his own presentation. That is another one of those upward mobiltiy tricks. I don’t need to listen to your presentations, but now that I am here, you can listen to mine.
I can’t believe how much people take at face value. I hope it doesn’t turn out badly for us.
Posted by: Mary OK | November 3, 2008, 12:21 am 12:21 am
Just remember, everyone, that come Wednesday we have a lot of problems as a nation which need to be dealt with. If we spend the next four years just name calling, trying to score points and looking for dirt, we will only be prolonging whatever recession or depression is in store for us, and allowing climate change to accelerate faster. Of the two, climate change is the most dangerous, and we may already be too late to do anything about it. But we have to get serious and try.
Posted by: stlmovoter | November 3, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am