Palin Makes Last Pitch to Ohio
ABC News’ Kate Snow and Imtiyaz Delawala Report: Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin kicked off her final day on the campaign trail in Ohio this morning, telling a small crowd of supporters that they “must win” on Election Day tomorrow, while continuing to critique comments Obama made on the coal industry in San Francisco earlier this year — saying that Obama must take “truth serum” when he visits the city.
“I’ll tell ya, this is the right place to be for us to kick off this final day of campaigning. This is the right place to be,” Palin said to a crowd of 1,000 in Lakewood, Ohio outside of Cleveland. “You can just feel it here, you can just feel it here in Ohio — victory’s coming, we can do this, we can win, we can win Ohio. And we must win for you.”
Palin continued a line of attack she introduced on the campaign trail yesterday, critiquing Obama for comments he made in a San Francisco Chronicle interview in January 2008 which re-surfaced this weekend, in which he said that his proposed cap and trade fees on the coal industry would “bankrupt” those trying to build new coal plants that weren’t environmentally friendly.
While Palin tried to critique Obama on his words in the interview, she twice stumbled in her response, saying “bankruptcing” and “bankruptcies” when meaning to say “bankrupt.”
“Just yesterday, revelation, an audiotape surfaces,” Palin said. “You gotta hear this tape. You’re gonna hear Obama sayin’ it, talking about bankruptcing, bankruptcy there in the coal industry.”
“So he’s talking to the San Francisco Chronicle, and he says that sure, if industry wants to try to build these coal-fired power plants, they can go ahead and try, but they’re only gonna be able to do it in a way that bankruptcies the whole industry, the coal industry,” Palin added.
The Obama campaign maintains that Palin is taking Obama’s comments out of context. They argue he never talked about bankrupting the entire coal industry — instead that his policies would impose high fees for those building new coal-fired plants that produce more greenhouse gases. Sen. John McCain has supported a similar cap-and-trade proposal.
“What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there,” Obama said in the interview. “So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”
Palin joked that Obama must take “truth serum” whenever he visits San Francisco, referencing Obama’s comments this spring at a San Francisco fundraiser that Pennsylvania voters “cling to guns or religion.”
“And there must be something about San Francisco and he because it’s like — I heard on Fox News today, it’s like a truth serum where when he’s there he seems to be more candid,” Palin said. As Palin began to reference Obama’s “bitter” comment, a man in the crowd yelled out, “Bitter clingers!”
“There ya go, the bitter clingers, the cling-ons, all of us, I guess, you know holding on to religion and guns,” Palin responded. “So something about he being there in San Francisco.”
Palin, dressed casually in jeans and wearing her hair down, raced through the shortened version of her stump speech, warning the crowd of her fears if Democrats take control of Washington on Election Day.
As the crowd chanted, “We will win!” Palin responded, “We must win, because Ohio, the far left wing of the Democrat party, not mainstream Democrat ideology, the values, the planks in the platform of the Democrat Party. It’s the far left wing of the party is getting ready to take over the entire federal government.”
The latest polls show Obama with a small lead over McCain in Ohio, which has proved to be as close of a battleground state as it was in the 2004 election.
Palin spent Sunday hop-scotching across the Buckeye State, trying to rally the Republican faithful to turn out to vote for the McCain-Palin ticket at rallies in Canton, Marietta, Columbus and Batavia, Ohio.
“Now we are just two days away from the election and the time for choosing. Are you ready to help us carry your state to victory?" Palin asked a crowd of nearly 5,000 in Marietta, Ohio Sunday afternoon, drawing wild cheers and applause.
Palin was joined on the trail yesterday by country singer Gretchen Wilson, who performed her hit song “Redneck Woman” at three of Palin’s Ohio rallies. Wilson tweaked the main line of her chorus to sing, "Let me get a big ‘Hell, Yeah’ for the nation’s next VP.”
And Palin praised her running mate’s appearance on Saturday Night Live this weekend, while offering an optimistic election prediction through advice for her SNL look-alike Tina Fey.
“Did anyone catch John McCain last night on SNL — Saturday Night Live?” Palin asked the crowd. “He was such a pro in those skits there with Tina Fey. And little advice for Tina — we want her to make sure that she’s holding on to that Sarah outfit, because she’s gonna need it in the next four years.”

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Posted by: Sarah | November 3, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
So basically Palin and McCain are lying again and the so called “Liberal” media isn’t pointing that out.
Last minute crap like this can be very powerful and the media must condemn it. Your headline should be, “Palin lies about Obama again.”
Posted by: Andy | November 3, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Sarah is the best! She is a breath of fresh air. You guys hate her because she is so energizing!!! There are a lot of people out their who don’t want to be mocked like Sarah is so they keep their mouth shut. Then they vote for McCain/Palin.
Posted by: John | November 3, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
@ John.
Whats so energizing? Is it her abuse of power (that the media ignored)
Her ignorance on current events and issues?
Her awful support of women’s rights?
Her awful support of science?
Her constant lying?
Mmm fresh how mavricky.
Posted by: Andy | November 3, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
“Allo Governer Palin, zis is President Sarkozy …”
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!
OBAMA = PRESIDENT
McCAIN = FAIL
Posted by: Ed from MA | November 3, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
What’s the lie????????
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
@usa
The lie is that Obama “wants” to bankrupt Coal.
Thats not true. He wants clean coal and is pointing out that ignoring environmental requirements will cause fines which will cause financial burdens on dirty coal plant builders.
McCain has the same stance
Posted by: Andy | November 3, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Talk about lie.. how about all them MSM polls showing Obama up by so much. Hey Andy what you going to do tomorrow night when Obama gets upset call the MSM all Liars? I think you should get ready for riots because from what I always read you Obama supporters are a hateful bunch!
Posted by: chuck | November 3, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
He said if they try to build new plants the cost of his fees will bankrupt the “industry”
Posted by: dsimms | November 3, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Clean coal is the issue. Obama is for that. But to promise clean jobs from coal, well let’s master the technology first.That’s the point.And lets let Sarah be the first one down the mine to try it out.
Posted by: Perry | November 3, 2008, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
The comment “Taken out of context” is getting to be a pretty lame excuse for Obama or Biden when they get caught saying something they would like to take back. So if that is the case which is out of context “spread the wealth” or “tax break for 95% of middle class” which has never Been defined by Obama’s campaign. 1. How do you give a tax break to the 50% of the 95% that do not pay taxes anyway. 2. Have Obama and Biden keep talking we need the wind for our windmill farms.
Posted by: Gene | November 3, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
ABC news at noon in Cleveland. Obama leading in Oh 51%to 43% with 2% undecided.People here are turned off by the robocalls and manipulation of the truth by McCain camp. I had 6 robocalls in less than an hour. With a total of 13 calls from the republicans and 1 from the democrats. Absurd and disgusting.
Posted by: Bea | November 3, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
The GOP’s hatred and fear of Obama is almost unprecedented. The last black man to be hated and feared as much was the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Posted by: hamishdad | November 3, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
So now COAL is what McCain is hanging his campaign on?
HEY JOHN: CAN YOU THINK ANY SMALLER?
Posted by: Ed from MA | November 3, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
It’s pandering to fear in coal-producing states. Anybody with half a brain can look up the two candidates stances and see that there’s very little difference in their positions.
Of course, the portion of the electorate that sincerely believes that Palin was sent to earth by God to protect us all from the Anti-Christ, that demographic isn’t going to go do some homework to verify any of the claims.
Posted by: Yukon Sam | November 3, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
chuck: We are not a hateful bunch…what we are, are sick and tired of the lies put out by the Repugs. I have yet to see a Republican look into the camera and tell me the truth about anything. It is a spin or a total lie. I will never trust the word of a Republican again.
Posted by: becky | November 3, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
01-20-2009 The END of an ERROR…
Posted by: pt | November 3, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
wow, did I start something.
Andy you listen but you don’t hear.
Maybe he did not say that utility bills will go through the roof.
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
I don’t hate Mrs. Palin I like her it is just that she is NOT prepared or has the knowledge to be vice president. PERIOD
What is the job of a vice-president? Well I wouldn’t ask her because she on 4 occasions doesn’t know her position.
Posted by: mcar | November 3, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
The GOP’s answer to the energy crisis is Alaskan whale oil.
Posted by: hamishdad | November 3, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Let your Sarah the Stupid run for president come 2012 and she’ll still be buried six feet under the ground by her opponent.We don’t need a stupid and ignorant president.My gosh, she doesn’t even know what’s the role of a vice president.How embarassing! How about Hillary versus Sarah Stupid for president? Whom will you vote for?
Posted by: michael | November 3, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
IT’S OVER.
E_DAY – 1: ELECTORAL COLLEGE EV POLLS
Obama 353
McCain 185
Posted by: Steve_NJ | November 3, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Yes the Obama supporters are violent. We’re the ones carving ourselves in the face, shooting McCain supporters, yelling racial slurs at people.
And for those of you who don’t read things in context you shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
Ready lets play the distorting quote game.
I say “John McCain used to honorable but now is a complete scum bag.”
Media posts: “John McCain…..honorable.”
As for the MSM polls that have Obama up. Even Fox has him up 7
Posted by: Andy | November 3, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
wow, did I start something.
Andy you listen but you don’t hear.
Maybe he did not say that utility bills will go through the roof.
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
I’d appreciate it if you would report the news. Palin stumbling in her pronunciation of a word doesn’t qualify. You leave the impression of being pro-Obama by commenting on such a trivial matter.
Posted by: Mike | November 3, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
Why do the writers feel the need to include in the story that Gov Palin stumbled on two words in what was surely a thousand word speech? Has anyone heard Obama speak? He hums and hahs more than anyone I know, yet no writers ever seem to include that in their stories.
Posted by: Cody | November 3, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
As usa posted, what is the lie? Palin quoted statements that Obama has said and at least most of us have heard. I am not saying Palin is great, but Obama has made comments that will be costly to many of us. Perhaps some of you are his favored groupies that will benefit. I like Obama’s charisma, but I have not seen accomplishments. All political candidates make promises. Once in office few are kept, not only from their lack of efforts, but also by being blocked by Congress and others.
Posted by: GHS | November 3, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
By not using America’s own natural resources, such as coal, Obama intends to “spread the wealth” to countries outside the USA, by keeping us dependent on foreign oil.
Just say N.O. to B.O.
Posted by: Keep the Wealth at Home | November 3, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Perry: The tax break is for 95% of tax paying americans. In additions I would like to add that Obama’s economic policies are crystal clear. Giving the poor a tax break is not comparable to taking money away from the rich and giving to the poor. Taking words like “spreading the wealth” out of context is not only ignorant, it is slimy. Talking down the importance of context is the epitome of foolishness.
Posted by: mike101 | November 3, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
The people of Alaska have been very niave in accepting the kind of corrupt leadership they have.
With Palin’s vindictive history, I pity those who spoke out against her.
Tomorrow Alaskans will choose to re-elect a Senator with seven convictions and who will not be allowed to sit in the Senate.
Or they can choose a Democrat.
If they choose Stevens, they will give Palin the opportunity to select herself as Stevens successor before reaping the consequences of her own unethical behaviour.
That will give her a Washington power base for six years to build her national career.
She is cunning and lucky, but a mental lightweight.
Heaven help America if we ever are stuck with her.
I think the Republicans will be looking for someone more intelligent to rebuild their bankrupt party.
Posted by: susan | November 3, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
discussion good,
name-calling-bad
remember it takes one to know one
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Perry: The tax break is for 95% of tax paying americans. In additions I would like to add that Obama’s economic policies are crystal clear. Giving the poor a tax break is not comparable to taking money away from the rich and giving to the poor. Taking words like “spreading the wealth” out of context is not only ignorant, it is slimy. Talking down the importance of context is the epitome of foolishness.
Posted by: mike101 | Nov 3, 2008 1:47:21 PM
No you are wrong it is not for 95% of people paying taxes
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 3, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Amazing how a good Christian woman such as Sarah can get up in front of a crowd and manipulate the truth into a lie without even a twinge of guilt. Either she’s too stupid to realize her scripts are lies, too lazy to seek the truth, or she’s just a liar and hypocrit.We’re not all as naive as your good pawn Joe the plumber. Either way, she’s stinking up the state I love.
Posted by: Lauri | November 3, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
GOP apparently doesn’t use context to understand things. Makes sense since the majority are idiot hate mongers.
Posted by: Andy | November 3, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
chuck: “Talk about lie.. how about all them MSM polls showing Obama up by so much. ”
Yeah, like that Foxnews poll, or the Strategic Vision (Republican polling house) one. McCain has acknowledged he’s behind in the polls – he’s not an idiot and has his own internal polls too.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
For anyone that might be interested in what he actually said:
“I voted against the Clear Skies Bill. In fact, I was the deciding vote — despite the fact that I’m a coal state and that half my state thought that I had thoroughly betrayed them. Because I think clean air is critical and global warming is critical.
“But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is, is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon. And how can we sequester that carbon and capture it. If we can’t, then we’re gonna still be working on alternatives.
“But … let me sort of describe my overall policy. What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade policy in place that is as aggressive if not more aggressive than anyone out there. I was the first call for 100 percent auction on the cap and trade system. Which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases that was emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants are being built, they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted-down caps that are imposed every year.
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted. That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel, and other alternative energy approaches. The only thing that I’ve said with respect to coal — I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as an ideological matter, as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should.”
Posted by: N Lefevre | November 3, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
“Absurd and disgusting,” how dare those Republicans and other parties use their right of freedom of speech and the right to assemble…LOL Yep, with opinionated Obama supporters like Bea, we are in for an interesting 4 years…BECAUSE AS AN INDEPENDENT WHO HAS THE RIGHT OF SAYING I DIDN’T VOTE REPUB OR DEM..I AM NOT GOING TO KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT…
Posted by: curiousindep | November 3, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Where are Sarah Palin’s medical records? What does she have to hide???
Posted by: Howard Gallas | November 3, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Sarah, can you say “community organizer”? Wait till day after tomorrow, and you will see what you ridiculed at the Republican National Convention – community organizing at its best, on a grand scale! Obama/Biden – the next President and Vice President of the United States of America. Hate and fear-mongering aren’t working this time, honey.
Posted by: geecee | November 3, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
@curious
Why do you neocons have to use CAPS ALL THE TIME
Posted by: Andy | November 3, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Ohio and Penna will make or break McCain-Palin tomorrow. That seam along the borders of both states is vital to the GOP. Definition of toss-up right now…
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | November 3, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Gene…take anything out of context and you can make people sound like you want them to. If all we heard was Sarah saying “I can see Russia from my back porch” all alone, you might think she is daft. But put in the context of her foreign policy experience question, it makes all the sense in the world!
Posted by: Dee | November 3, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
If the GOP fails to win, Palin plans on becoming an astronaut because she can see the moon from her kitchen window.
Posted by: stever | November 3, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
McCain/Palin should go to San Francisco if there is indeed “truth serum” there….they need some desperately!!! They are nothing but lying fear mongers.
Posted by: akskimo | November 3, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
If Obama gets elected, I look forward to hearing the liberals whine about all Obama’s broken promises. There are so many promises that Obama just can’t deliver on.
Posted by: KHO | November 3, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I see Andy just can’t help using his IQ to express his opinions…LOL
Posted by: curiousindep | November 3, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
Bea: “People here are turned off by the robocalls and manipulation of the truth by McCain camp. I had 6 robocalls in less than an hour…Absurd and disgusting.”
curiousindep: “”Absurd and disgusting,” how dare those Republicans and other parties use their right of freedom of speech and the right to assemble…with opinionated Obama supporters like Bea, we are in for an interesting 4 years…BECAUSE AS AN INDEPENDENT WHO HAS THE RIGHT OF SAYING I DIDN’T VOTE REPUB OR DEM..I AM NOT GOING TO KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT…”
Did you read Bea’s comment? She is annoyed by the incessant robocalls. Now read your “reply.” ? With your self-persecution delusions are you sure you’re not a Republican at heart?
Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
How come dem. can’t say anything without calling everyone else, stupid, hate mongers, idiots etc. etc. is that all you have learned ??????
Apparently you can’t make a good argument for your side so you resort to name-calling.
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Sarah needs to go back to Alaska and read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!
In a conservative radio interview that aired in Washington, D.C. Friday morning, Republican vice presidential nominee Gov. Sarah Palin said she fears her First Amendment rights may be threatened by “attacks” from reporters who suggest she is engaging in a negative campaign against Barack Obama.
Palin told WMAL-AM that her criticism of Obama’s associations, like those with 1960s radical Bill Ayers and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, should not be considered negative attacks. Rather, for reporters or columnists to suggest that it is going negative may constitute an attack that threatens a candidate’s free speech rights under the Constitution, Palin said.
“If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations,” Palin told host Chris Plante, “then I don’t know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media.”
Salon’s Glenn Greenwald explains why this argument is frighteningly wrong:
If anything, Palin has this exactly backwards, since one thing that the First Amendment does actually guarantee is a free press. Thus, when the press criticizes a political candidate and a Governor such as Palin, that is a classic example of First Amendment rights being exercised, not abridged.
This isn’t only about profound ignorance regarding our basic liberties, though it is obviously that. Palin here is also giving voice here to the standard right-wing grievance instinct: that it’s inherently unfair when they’re criticized. And now, apparently, it’s even unconstitutional.
According to Palin, what the Founders intended with the First Amendment was that political candidates for the most powerful offices in the country and Governors of states would be free to say whatever they want without being criticized in the newspapers. The First Amendment was meant to ensure that powerful political officials would not be “attacked” in the papers. It is even possible to imagine more breathaking ignorance from someone holding high office and running for even higher office?
Posted by: TexGal51 | November 3, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
HOCKEY PUCK FROM ALASKA HAS SOME VERY ABOMINABLE HABBITS. TWISTING THE TRUTH IS AT THE TOP OF LIST. IF SHE COULD A POLYGRAPH I WOULD VOTE FOR MCCAIN OTHERWISE OBAMA.
Posted by: DAVID S | November 3, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Nice try, ABC. The Ohio Coal Association issued their letter today, condemning Obama’s “coal comment” as weel. READ!
Ohio Coal Association Says Obama Remarks Make It Clear: Obama Ticket Not Supportive of Coal
COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov. 3 /PRNewswire–USNewswire/ — Mike Carey, president of the Ohio Coal Association (OCA), today issued the following statement in response to just-released remarks from Senator Barack Obama about the nation’s coal industry.
“Regardless of the timing or method of the release of these remarks, the message from the Democratic candidate for President could not be clearer: the Obama-Biden ticket spells disaster for America’s coal industry and the tens of thousands of Americans who work in it.
“These undisputed, audio-taped remarks, which include comments from Senator Obama like ‘I haven’t been some coal booster’ and ‘if they want to build [coal plants], they can, but it will bankrupt them’ are extraordinarily misguided.
“It’s evident that this campaign has been pandering in states like Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Indiana and Pennsylvania to attempt to generate votes from coal supporters, while keeping his true agenda hidden from the state’s voters.
“Senator Obama has revealed himself to be nothing more than a short- sighted, inexperienced politician willing to say anything to get a vote. But today, the nation’s coal industry and those who support it have a better understanding of his true mission, to ‘bankrupt’ our industry, put tens of thousands out of work and cause unprecedented increases in electricity prices.
“In addition to providing an affordable, reliable source of low-cost electricity, domestic coal holds the key to our nation’s long-term energy security – a goal that cannot be overlooked during this time of international instability and economic uncertainty.
“Few policy areas are more important to our economic future than energy issues. As voters head to the polls tomorrow, it is essential they remember that access to reliable, affordable, domestic energy supplies is essential to economic growth and stability.”
The Ohio Coal Association (OCA) is a non-profit trade association representing the interests of Ohio’s underground and surface coal mining producers. The OCA represents nearly 40 coal producing companies and more than 50 Associate Members, which include suppliers and consultants to the mining industry, coal sales agents and brokers and allied industries. The Ohio Coal Association is committed to advancing the development and utilization of Ohio coal as an abundant, economic and environmentally sound energy source.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=prnw.20081103.CLM078&show_article=1
Posted by: nononsense08 | November 3, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Interesting ABC had to tell of Palin’s fumbling of the word “bankrupting.” That was certainly crucial information.
I wonder if they’ll show Barack slipping the bird to McCain … or him calling Florida Ohio?
Oops, I forgot: doesn’t fit the narrative.
Posted by: Max | November 3, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
KHO: “If Obama gets elected, I look forward to hearing the liberals whine about all Obama’s broken promises.”
He’s already annoyed the far left by supporting FISA and the Patriot Act. Any voting on his actual record (thousands of votes and several laws written and passed) knows that he’s a centrist. He’s not lying, anyone who bothers to read the 100′s of pages of whitepapers on his site know about what to expect. Nothing radical, but it will be nice to have competence back in the Whitehouse next year (and both main candidates are competent, although Palin’s record is a disaster).
Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
The coal story is just another in a series of distortions promoted by McCain. Obama backs clean coal technology for the future. He wants to help the coal industry prepare for the coming century by developing clean energy. Palin lied about the Chronicle interview tape and she just repearts what the right wing bloggers tell her. McCain and Palin represent the worst in politics. Lies and smears are the hallmark of their campaign. John McCain is no longer a man of honor he has sold out to the most extreme elements of his party.
Posted by: jefflz | November 3, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
ABC how about checking into those Medical Records Palin promised to give to us before the election.
Posted by: becky | November 3, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Lies. How fitting that Sarah Palin exit Stage Right telling lies.
Lies. Sarah Palin lies.
Sarah, you know what Santa brings to liars? A lump of coal.
Here’s the truth:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=32228&type=politics
Posted by: Vox | November 3, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
OMG Sarah Palin is like so exciting!!! She’s like the head cheerleader but not just of her high school, but of the whole Republican party! That’s why it is so exciting when she talks. If she doesn’t like someone, she lets you know it! An once you are on her bad side, forget it! That’s why she’ll beat Obama because she just hates him and everyone knows it. It’s like that state trooper that divorced her sister. I’ll bet he regrets it now! Now where is he going to find a job?
Posted by: Susie | November 3, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Andy…Probably for the simple reason that Caps are the only letters liberals can read…You know like SEE ANDY RUN AT THE MOUTH, SEE JANE RUN, SEE SPOT RUN WITH ANDY….LOL
Posted by: curiousindep | November 3, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
My fellow Americans as you go to the polls tommorow and you feel you cant take the lines or the stress of it think about these things
1 A LYING SENSELESS WAR IN IRAQ THAT HAS KILLED THOUSANDS, AND WASTED BILLIONS
2-AN ECONOMIC DISASTER
3-401K LIFE SAVINGS SLIPPING AWAY
4-UNEMPLOYMENT ALL TIME HIGH
RISING GAS AND FOOD PRICES
5-UNAFFORDIABLE COLLEGE AND HEALTHCARE
Think of all of these things that have happen under a Republican President, with Mccain voting with the Bush Policies 90 percent of time(thats no maverick) AND THINK IF MCCAIN WINS AND SOMETHING HAPPENS TO HIM THAT EVIL, LYING, FRAUD, HATE, FEAR, MONGERING ANIMAL KILLING WOMAN WILL BE YOUR PRESIDENT
So My fellow Americans tommorow STAY IN THOSE LINES VOTE FOR HOPE,CHANGE,PEACE AND PROSPERITY AND A BETTER FUTURE FOR YOU AND OUR CHILDREN!
Posted by: Angie in PA | November 3, 2008, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm
Wingnut Vetting of Palin
8/39/08 John McCain picks Sarah Palin as his running mate.
Wingnut: Who is she?
Alaska’s governor.
Wingnut: Cool
Hockey mom.
Wingnut: Cool
High school basketball player.
Wingnut: Cool
Fought corruption.
Wingnut: Cool
Likes hunting and fishing.
Wingnut: Cool
Killed the bridge to nowhere.
Wingnut: Cool
Like guns.
Wingnut: Way Cool
She has five kids.
Wingnut: Way Cool
Her husband works for an oil company.
Wingnut: Cool
Her pastor is a witch hounder.
Wingnut: Cool
She thinks that dinosaurs and humans walked the earth 6000 years ago.
Wingnut: They did of course.
She is against anything gay.
Wingnut: That’s great.
She is against abortion of any kind.
Wingnut: Outstanding
Her church believes that Christianity should rule America and the world.
Wingnut: Outstanding
She believes the Rapture and Armageddon are near.
Wingnut: That is all I had to hear. Sarah has been sent by god to bring the end of the world.
She thinks killing wolves from helicopters is fine.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
She lied about the bridge to nowhere.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
Her daughter…
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
Her husband wants Alaska to secede from US.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
She was found guilty of ethics violation.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
She doesn’t know didley about didley.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
The majority of statements from her are lies.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
Respected members of your own party think she is unprepared.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
Her house was built by the same company that built her ice rink as a kickback.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
She charged Alaska to live in her own house.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
She charged Alaska for travel expenses for her kids.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
She can’t complete a coherent sentence that doesn’t involve intolerance and hate.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
She’s less educated than any candidate in history.
Wingnut: That doesn’t matter.
If her aging albino chipmunk running mate died she might very well destroy the world to fulfill biblical prophecy.
Wingnut: That’s why we love her. You go Sarah. God needs you to bring His murderous wrath down on all those traitorous peace loving liberals who would try to stop the destruction of America and the world.
proton
Posted by: Jan | November 3, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Where is all the talk about about Biden?
Joe Biden is one-hell-of-an-idiot and a lot more fun to laugh at!
WTH is Joe????
Posted by: Where is Joe | November 3, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
The coal thing that Liar Palin is referring to is false. The MSM should be telling the truth, not repeating her lies. I’m ashamed of the press, why are they so hesitant to call a liar a liar ?
Posted by: John | November 3, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Reasons Sarah Palin would be a good President, if the worst happened to John McCain:
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Posted by: doug | November 3, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
usa: “can’t say anything without calling everyone else, stupid, hate mongers, idiots etc. etc. is that all you have learned. Apparently you can’t make a good argument for your side so you resort to name-calling.”
Have you watched any of Palin’s speeches? She accuses Obama of being an anti-American Marxist terrorist! But you’re right, lets go back to facts. I like the video taping of interrogations and confessions law that Obama wrote, and over initial skepticism and a veto threat, got signed into law in IL. Good idea, good bipartisan work to get it implemented.
Your turn. Give me a hard, factual achievement of John McCain. (And I think this election, with the $30k+ per plate fundraisers hosted by McCain for the RNC Committee to Elect John McCain, takes his campaign finance reform off the table as a failure.)
Posted by: jhw539 | November 3, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
He did say that Eelctric bills (all enrgy costs) would go up for those that can afford to pay them, but not poor or fixed income people. That it is redistribution of wealth again. He didn’t mention clean coal in SF, but posters here say he is for it. What he has said is he’ll look at alternatives. Looking and using are different things.
Why don’t folks here what he says but decide what he means…Simply being a great speaker doesn’t mean you ignore the message.
Palin is far more qualified that the other three to be President, and far more qualified than Obama for either office. The man has accomplised nothing.
Posted by: Greg | November 3, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Why so much hate from the McCain and Palin side? You know, John McCain has done so much for his country and I believe he is really an honorable guy. Sarah Palin however, has NO biz being anywhere in National Politics. Just because she can start a riot by saying inciting things that get the fring guys to go so over board that even John McCain has to set them straite at rallys doesn’t qualify her for anything. I can’t believe she’s even a Govenor?!? I would have considered John McCain before he was forced to pick her by the party faithful. What a mess.
The last time the far right used this much hate and tearing down of the other side was in Germany in the late 1930′s. And we all know how that ended . . .
And they can’t wait to call Obaama everything in the book.
Posted by: m2 | November 3, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Who is the tool that wrote this article?
You can tell when a liberal writes a piece… they put emphasis on the either the “mis-speaking” or spelling of words rather than the CONTENT! Well, let me make it CLEAR then to the fools out that that would support barack the socialist!
bahhh-rack and his sheeple that follow him are not America… they are socialist, and some are, like William Ayers are ADMITTED COMMUNISTS! “small c communist…” as he was quoted as sayiing!
It will not be long before barack the socialist becomes barack the communist! If you can’t see the forrest for the trees then you are either blind or in on the scam!
NO-bama!
Posted by: Big Daddy | November 3, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Well – this one is just about wrapped up as long as we all vote/
President Elect Obama.
Posted by: jfw | November 3, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
He said if they try to build new plants the cost of his fees will bankrupt the “industry”
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No, that is incorrect. Again.
He said any company trying to build a DIRTY COAL plant under new emission caps (which McCAIN ALSO SUPPORTS) would go bankrupt.
That is not saying “the industry”. Nor does it imply he “wants to bankrupt the industry” as FOX had on their front page today.
And I noticed Palin, McCain , Fox, and the Pubs on here keep leaving out the part that McCain SUPPORTS THE SAME POLICY.
Shhhhh. Don’t tell anyone the truth ok?
Posted by: Truth Hurts the GOP | November 3, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
jhw539….What if I was a Repub at heart or even a Green Party or Independent, which I am, what possible difference would that make? You cannot not possibly support suppression of speech by tagging it as absurd or disgusting…but than again perhaps you can…
Posted by: curiousindep | November 3, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Come on everybody, let’s cancel the election and leave Bush in as president! No really, all of the republicans told us he was the answer 8 years ago, and then again 4 years ago.
Come on, republicans know what they are talking about! He was going to be the greatest president ever! So why change? Right republicans? You pick the right president every time? You guys sure now how to pick them!
President Obama! Get use to it!
Posted by: Independent realist | November 3, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
When is Palin going to admit she got a boob job so she could get more votes?
Posted by: Medical Records? | November 3, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
He didn’t mention clean coal in SF, but posters here say he is for it.
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He said it two different nationally televised Presidential debates.
But I guess, just like the birth certificate crap, you need more proof that he said it?
Posted by: Whatever | November 3, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
wow…even little stumbles are picked on. Everyone stumbles in speeches even “the one”. I’m so sick of the ugly bias in the media. Congratulations you dirty media prostitutes – you’ve handed Obama the election…
Posted by: disgusted | November 3, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Angie in PA
NONE of the economic crisis happened until the DEMOCRATS took control of congress! First 100 days my A$$!
You can thank the leaders who control the purse strings: Palosi, Reid, and Barney Frank!
You are a complete idiot… not worthy of an opinion!
Get educated on the FACTS!
As far as Iraq goes… it WAS voted on… and PASSED! You are not worth the energy to explain foreign policy to you! Here is the cliff note version: Laws were broken, warnings were given, they were not headed, we finished a war that was in a “cease fire” state on the premise that certain rules were followed… they were not… SO justice was enforced! PERIOD!
Ya Flake!
Posted by: Big Daddy | November 3, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
It’s too bad that at this late date the only thing Republicans have is LIES! Sarah Palin wants to run for President in 2012? She’s going to have a tough journey!
The least she could do is get the COAL story right! Why take little snipets and report inaccurate information?
Sarah Palin, if your political career holds up and you run for president in 2012, you WILL NOT GET MY VOTE!
Posted by: Shay | November 3, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
The only lying is done by the democrats – to themselves. I can’t wait to see the reaction when all these “lies” about Obama finally come out as truth. There’s going to be some buyer’s remorse…but hey it’s only four long years to live with yourselves…
Posted by: blinded by the one | November 3, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Do you sheeple who follow Bhaaa-rack really think that the every day average American people will vote that CLOWN in…? Really? A proven SOCIALIST who hangs out with admitted COMMUNISTS like Frank Marshall, Jerim-ya-ya-yadda Wright and William Ayers! Google these people… ALL are close friends and admitted communists or socialists in Wright’s case!
WE fought wars against communism… How dare we be on the precipice of letting a quazi-communist socialist be elected to POTUS!?
We as a country ought to be ashamed of ourselves if we elect Bhaaa-rack the socialist and let his sheeple reign in DC!
Elect the only candidate who DESERVES and is worthy of the highest office in the land! John McCain!
Posted by: Big Daddy | November 3, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Hey, did she have pompoms with that speech? Poor McCain. More interested in gimmicks and pandering than picking a candidate that would have helped him get elected.
Posted by: JC | November 3, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
I hope regardless of who wins we will come together as a nation and honor and respect The new President.
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 3, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Greg,
“Palin is far more qualified that the other three to be President, and far more qualified than Obama for either office. The man has accomplised nothing.”
We heard what she was qualified for when she spoke with “Sarkosy”.
Sounds like she could work on one of those erotic telephone lines.
They could call it “heads for heads of state”.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 3, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
I could go on and on…
wow…even little stumbles are picked on. Everyone stumbles in speeches even “the one”. I’m so sick of the ugly bias in the media. Congratulations you dirty media prostitutes – you’ve handed Obama the election…
Posted by: offtomars | November 3, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Barack is a socialist… if you cannot see that then you are either blind or in on the scam that is Barack Hussein Obama!
Posted by: Big Daddy | November 3, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
“When is Palin going to admit she got a boob job so she could get more votes?”
Actually, it was the first transgenic brain transplant, using a moose donor.
Posted by: Paul New man | November 3, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Those who follow Barack the socialist are nothing more than sheeple… Go sheeple … go and follow Bhaaa-rack the socialist!
A bunch of low IQ fools…!
Posted by: Big Daddy | November 3, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Angie, I agree that much of the war in Iraq is senseless and we are spending way too much in money and lives there, but the others: much of the economic disaster is from people taking loans for things that they cannot afford or had no intentions to pay with banks being greedy with interest and failing to do credit checks. 401Ks slipping shows that you have to save for your own future as well, not depend on future payments. Unemployment, depends on jobs people are willing to take; something is better than nothing. Gas prices have reduced about half or more from their highest charges in this past year. College – pick a local school rather than a top rated one that gives you the same education for more money. Healthcare, depends on what you are looking. If you want a free ride, no, I do not want my tax dollars paying for needless, unnecessary doctor visits just because you could. Healthcare is expensive, but I do not think political candidates are going to get doctors and medical centers to reduce their rates.I can’t save enough for a absolute disaster, but I am trying to save for small, unexpected expenses. The food I will give you, it is high. I am shocked almost every time I go to the store, but again I do not think either political candidate is going to change it. We are paying for shipping costs, storage, electricity in stores, paychecks for the store workers. Unless you want the minimum wage to go down, I do not think we will get too much relief in this department. I vote for experience, not an unreliable hope. Those of you who label others as fearful and hateful simply because they have a different view than you should look at themselves. I would bet the labelers are the most hateful, unaccepting people. Both sides have promise and both sides have drawbacks. If you can only see all bad on one side and all good on the other, get out of the tunnel for a wider view.
Posted by: GHS | November 3, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Who’s kidding whom? The U.S. is going Blue and a horrible McCain campaign strategy is to blame… along with the choice of an unseasoned, unprepared VP. But ya gotta wonder whether Palin (SarahSixPack.com) is actually going to be the GOP’s standard bearer, or whether she’ll just be a footnote in history. Obama (ObamaAgain2012.com) is a shoo-in this go-round, and it’s very likely that he’ll effectively use the power of his incumbency in ’12 to win a second term. Question is: Will Palin’s star power within the GOP continue all the way into 2016? Isn’t it more likely that many brighter (!) GOP stars will emerge during the next 8 years?
Posted by: edwards | November 3, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
John sez: “You guys hate her because she is so energizing!!!”
All one has to do to “energize” the republican base is to schedule a Matlock marathon on TV Land.
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
“Becky”
“Lies. How fitting that Sarah Palin exit Stage Right telling lies.
Lies. Sarah Palin lies.
Sarah, you know what Santa brings to liars? A lump of coal.
Here’s the truth:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=32228&type=politics”
Oh Becky, how are you SO stupid? I am sure you are READING AND QUOTING the absolutely fabulous work of one of the San Fran reporters without watching the video interview for yourself and drawing your own conclusion. I guess I could expect that from a left-wing socialist nut job like you posting comments on which you know nothing. Please do yourself a favor actually pay attention to the video. Learn something. Then take your dumb butt back to school and learn what constitutes truth and lies. Maybe your parents forgot to teach you that one. Wake up! Quit bashing people for which you know nothing about and a take pride in learning something new about your candidate for president. Here is the video you should have watched before you began running your nasty trap and then you would have seen and heard that come out of your own candidates mouth! You can’t call someone a liar when the content they are speaking of is on video and tape making the statements. Here honey you can start learning with this:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2008/01/18/MNSNUH7GC.DTL&o=0
Posted by: Bran | November 3, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
mmmmm….isn’t “clean” coal an oxymoron?
Posted by: Pepper1939 | November 3, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Curious,
It’s not a suppression of speech for a private individual to assert that a particular type of political advertising is absurd or disgusting. If the government were to take action to ban the speech, that would be unconstitutional. A citizen expressing their opinion during a political campaign is 1st Amendment free speech at its best..
Posted by: DavieP | November 3, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
McCain is a socialist. He stopped his campaign to make sure the congress approved money to take over the banking system. THAT is socialism! Of course, McCain only really likes socialism to help the rich.
Posted by: Working Man | November 3, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Any reason a crowd of 1,000 is a “small group of supporters” for Palin in this story and the same size crowd is large in a story about Biden?
Amazing how you don’t even try to hide the bias anymore… Or, more likely, you don’t even realize it when you do it…
Posted by: TexasLouie | November 3, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Nice, Big Daddy. Typical Repub-lie-can. Can’t make any cogent arguments on behalf of your side, so insult others and call them names.
So, here’s my response to you:
go cluck yourself
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | November 3, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Hey, Hey, Hey, let’s hear it for McPain and Failin.
Posted by: Dave | November 3, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
She is so dumb she got punked by the crank call from “Sarkozy.” Good God.
Send her back to the frozen north so she can return to shooting moose from helicopters and fleecing the citizenry.
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | November 3, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
obviously the writers of this article have never given speeches. It happens, you pronounce a word wrong. Get a life, that’s all you can say about her??
AND, she is only repeating what Obama said. What? are you so enthralled with the guy that not only do you believe everything he says but now you believe everything that he said but then said he didn’t say but then heck, we’re screwed if BO is elected. All of us, not just the worshippers.
Posted by: rita | November 3, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
Hey Big Daddy
We are doing the Right thing keeping the Far right Relgious nuts that want to live out the bible prophecy like Palin, Palin wants to run the country like the bible no way
Posted by: Angie in PA | November 3, 2008, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
blinded by the one:
You obviously are “blinded” to the inaccuracies of your own party.
You can’t get it right because you are too busy lying!!!!!
You take things out of context and you want everyone to believe the lie!
Anyone who would want Sarah Palin as their President has a loose screw!
Posted by: Shay | November 3, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
This is the liberal mindset.
Republican – Bad
Democrat- Perfect
That’s pretty low on the emotional intellegence scale but there’s no better illustration than some of these robotic talking points posts. Bottom line. I’m not hiring a guy who doesn’t have the experience just because he has charisma. Charisma is just nice term for bull feces in this case. Now if you guys want to hire an arrogant snotty nosed little boy for a man’s job then go ahead. I know who the man in this election is. You guys really need to get over your Bush hate issues. He’s not perfect but he’s kept us safe following the worst attack on our homeland. It is disengenous to blame the republicans for all of this. Democrats had just as big of a hand…in the case of the Fannie/Freddie issue…they were the cause. Don’t allow ideology to blind you.
Posted by: Chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Working Man is right – McCain is only for socialism when it benefits the wealthy.
Of course, he wouldn’t call it socialism. His system of funneling wealth to the very few would more accurately be described as aristocracy, in which you need to be born into a family of wealth and political influence to have any opportunity.
Kind of puts the whole Cindy & John marriage into perspective.
Posted by: DavieP | November 3, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
BIG DADDY:
You sound mighty small to me!
Posted by: Shay | November 3, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
That voice! That GOD AWFUL VOICE! It makes mister brown winkie pucker every time I hear THAT VOICE! Its like a scatterbrained Rosanne Barr turned up to 10. If I have to hear that voice after tomorrow I am going to commit a crime…..
Posted by: Brian | November 3, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Why isn’t the media pushing harder on the medical records? There is something being hidden. While I am not sure I am buying into the theories of the pregnancy cover up, there are alot of things that seem odd. For example, she was 7 months pregnant when she made it public and her staff was even unaware??? Her water broke at 4AM while in Texas, she stayed there to do a speech for a luncheon and then got on a plane to fly back to Alaska (either an 8 or 11 hour flight) and then had the baby back home??? She knew her baby had downs at the time and she wouldn’t rush right to the hospital when her water broke for the safety of her baby??? She said to the Wall Street Journal that she wasn’t going to miss the speech (despite her water having broke)??? Why would she have flown at 8 months pregnant with a special needs baby in the first place??? Why would she fly back to Alaska with her water breaking early knowing she has a special needs baby and that she was 4 weeks early??? None of this adds up. Even if none of this is a coverup as theorized, none of the above is very smart.
Posted by: dantski | November 3, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Do you realize that if Obama wins the presidency that America will forever be changed..not for the better..but changed to socialism. DO NOT believe Obama; he has changed his policies and programs he wants for America so drastically in the last year only to get votes. He is very radical; he was taught by Communist Frank Marshall Davis; his buddy and he visited in Hawaii; Obama writes about Frank in his first book. His mind is full of Marx like ideas: why would he say he wanted to redistribute the wealth, have govt. matching 401k plans for the “working poor”, etc. He said so many very socialist programs in an video interview which I saw on the internet over a yr. ago. He has not changed; he is just telling you what you want to hear. Do you wish a socialist govt. in the U.S., one that will be friendly with Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, etc. and with the Middle Eastern Nations, but not Israel? Then vote for Obama.
Posted by: Jackie Swenson | November 3, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Chris in TN:
If you want to hire a man for president that can only talk about his POW days, then McCain’s your boy!
Posted by: Shay | November 3, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
LOL, Brian. Yeah, Mr. Happy kind of shrivels when hearing her too!
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | November 3, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Jackie Swenson:
Your silliness borders on stupidness!
Posted by: Shay | November 3, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Jackie,
how is life in La La Land? What color is the sky there?
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | November 3, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
jhw539,
just one, like bringing the attention about fannie mae and freddie mac out in the open,way-back, but they dem. shot that one down, and now blame everyone else for their misguidence. Look at his record and then tell me Sen. Obama can match it. And voting present does not count.
Lets not forget Sen. Obamas job as comunity organizer, working with ACHORN, getting people into houses by telling them its their RIGHT to own houses not the AMERICAN DREAM. Making sure that everyone knew exactly how to intimidate bank officials without breaking the law.
you talk about a 30,000 dinner, what about Sen. Obamas dinner $28,000 plus
When was the last time you could afford that?????.
And lets not forget Sen. Obamas greatest vision, redistribution of wealth, not his–yours.
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Shay–Just what has O man accomplished? Wrote a book about his life before anyone knew who he was…who cares. He’s full of complete crap. The most unqualified person ever to run. You guys can tear up Palin all you want. She has more experience than this empty suit. He’s a crook…look at his buddies. God Damn America? I don’t think so. Rev Wright is evidence enough.
Posted by: Chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Ohio & Pennyslvania voters: Get your guns and bibles out as you’ll need them if Obama gets elected. One to protect yourself, your children and your home from the crooks who we have so many now but will have more as they believe they are entitled to our possessions; the other is to pray like hell that Obama goes away in 4 yrs. He’s trouble for America.
Posted by: Nathan O'Brien | November 3, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Chris in TN sez: “He’s not perfect but he’s kept us safe following the worst attack on our homeland.”
While it’s true that we have not suffered another terrorist attack I would argue that our security is significantly more at risk than it was in 2000. The main reason is financial. This year we will run a budget deficit of about $1.4 Trillion (after all the bailouts). This, added to our current national debt, will increase our national debt to around $11.5 Trillion. Most of this debt is held by our former enemies – China and Russia. So while we were spending billions to prevent a few bombers from getting through we have sold our nation’s security down the river. All our enemies have to do to take us down is to stop buying T-bills. I bet Bin Laden is laughing is a** off in his little cave. He didn’t have to lift another finger. We did it to ourselves.
I also agree that the current catastrophe we find ourselves in was a bi-partisan one. No one party could screw us this badly
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
William J. LePetomaine:
LOL! Someone go back and get a tihsload of dimes!
This guy knows Pork! baby…
Posted by: Brian | November 3, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Its all right here guys:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com
it has the average of dozens of polls.. and shows them all too!
Obama is clearly in the lead.. its over McCain, you made far too many mistakes too be considered a diligent president.
McCain is trigger happy, just like he was in the bomber.. bombing civilians.
hero?
Posted by: Patrick | November 3, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Brian, you are only the second person on all these blogs to pick up on the source of my screen name!
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | November 3, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Definition: Redneck-A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.
She plays “Redneck Woman” at her rallies??? Talk about racism!!
Posted by: dMiner | November 3, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Patrick,
There is only one poll that counts and that is tommorow.Kerry was winning so was gore so good luck with that
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 3, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Chris in Texas
Yeah the finacial situation is horrible. You can’t pin it all on Bush. Obama’s economics do not add up mathmatically. When you are in a depressed economic time you don’t raise taxes on employers. People lose jobs, products go up…it’s fundamental. This class warfare crap that O’s been planing is crap. Do ya really think Obama’s going to keep us safe? Hell Chavez endorsed today…he’s be having tea at the White House based on O’s Radical history of friends.
Posted by: Chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Why are liberals so mean? I’m sorry but I can’t listen to OBAMA stammer and stutter for the next 4 years when he doesn’t have a telepromter in front of him. Have you ever really listened. I I I, Da Da da, bu bu bu. Come on.
Posted by: Rmman | November 3, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Have we ever gotten an explanation for why Gov. Palin has not released her medical records, despite repeated promises to do so. Is there something embarrassing (or worse) that they are trying to hide until after the election? Could be as simple as a face lift or a tummy tuck, or as serious as an abortion.
It is a legitimate question. Given Sen. McCain’s medical history, the health of his VP could be crucial to the nation’s political stability. Why the secrecy?
Posted by: Dave | November 3, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Did anyone see the ABC news photos after
the Palin-Biden debate. Biden’s pose was
apparently a glamor shot-he’s never looked that good. The ABC news editor,
however, managed to find an unflattering pic of this beautiful, intelligent lady. ABC news lies. If Andy can’t see the liberal biased, maybe it’s because his team is getting all the dirty calls in their favor. I’ll never believe your “journalism” again.
Posted by: phil | November 3, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
What about Bush’s American Dream Downpayment Act?
http://www.hud.gov/news/release.cfm?content=pr03-140.cfm
That was the start of the housing mess in 2003. McCain voted for it along with all the Republicans in Congress. That was how McCain warned about Fannie and Freddie?
Posted by: Working Man | November 3, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
So she mispronounced a word, and that’s news? Obama told a rally in Florida he was in Ohio. Yawn.
Posted by: byepartisan | November 3, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Folks, let me clarify something that should be common sense.
How do the rich get rich? By keeping every dollar they can, any way they can. By being conservative with their investments and holding every dime back in bad, or potentially bad times.
When you need money in the economy, like NOW, who spends? Those wh have to. The rich in this country will never be touched by recession or even depression. The issue here is; how do we get the money moving again? You don’t get it flowing by giving more to the rich. They just keep it. That’s the lie of trickle down. That’s why mcCain is so dangerous. he will continue the same stupid misguided monitary policy that got us into this mess.
Folks, if you loved the Great Depression: You’ll love McCain.
Posted by: Marcus | November 3, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Well for one I don’t no why people think if u don’t vote for Obama then your racist. I would vote for McCain. But does it mean I’m racist? I’m not voting for McCain because Obama is African American. It’s from what Obama is going to do is why I’m not voting for him. I don’t really want to vote for McCain/Palin because of the abuse of money Palin uses. So what I’m saying is if you dont vote for Obama your not racist. So make the right Choice and vote for McCain.
Posted by: Canada | November 3, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Chris in TN – I didn’t pin it all on Bush, although I think he set the conditions that led do it.
Near as I can tell class warfare is being fought equally hard by both sides – “real america” vs. “the other america”, “joe the plumber” vs. the “ivy league elites”, etc. And yes, I’m tired of it too. When picking a President I look first to leadership qualities. I see them in Obama. I do not see them in McCain. In the end I don’t think either of these men would be a “disaster” for the country. Obama isn’t a Muslim anti-Christ, socialist/communist child molester and McCain isn’t the reincarnation of Hitler (Frau Palin is another matter altogether).
As for Venezuela, Chavez is a joke. I’ve spent time in Venezuela and have an abiding trust in that country’s democracy to do the right thing. Like Bush, Chavez will be a bad dream in the past. However, in the meantime we get over 1.1 million barrels of oil PER DAY from Venezuela so we can’t tick them off too much now can we?
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
Who says Obama’s tax plan doesn’t redistribute wealth? It has been laid out plain and simple. In order to fund the tax breaks for the large population that is not competent to earn a livable wage, it is necessary to increase the taxes on anybody that works for their money. Ridiculous. And what about this bs about the Obama family being an average family wanting to send their girls to college? Michelle makes enough money on her own to send 20 kids to college. This isn’t to say McCain is the answer. The answer is move out of the country. Just another couple months…
Posted by: Drew | November 3, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Fear tactics, the last resort of desperate politicians. Too bad Mac and Pal haven’t understood that after 8 yrs of Fear Tactics from the Bush admin, we americans have become numb to those sort of things. I want the facts baby, just the facts. Thank goodness for the FACTCHECKER.
Obama hasn’t given any indication that he is not going to be working for all Americans, not just a select few from a particular part of the country. He has used the term “MIDDLE-CLASS” throughout his campaign. Why was Mac and company afraid to say middle-class? Makes one wonder who is is campaigning for, doesn’t it.
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
For the record all of you musing about Palin’s medical records…Obama has not released his either. He released a “statement of good health” not medical records. He seems to also have an aversion to producing a vault birth certificate (before you even say it-no he hasn’t) Google the term.
Posted by: Chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
energizing? breath of fresh air?
here’s some straight talk for you my friends.
she lies, she’s abused her power as governor, goes off script with wild accusations and lies. sounds like bush is a $25,000 jacket from neiman marcus.
hardly fresh air
enough
Posted by: tom | November 3, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Phil, if the media is so left-leaning and biased, how do you account for these media people:
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
Fox News
Bill O’Reilly
Ann Coulter
Pat Buchanan
Bob Novak
Matt Drudge
The New Republic
Mary Matalan
Posted by: William J. LePetomaine | November 3, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
bv
Posted by: gh | November 3, 2008, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Ombama is only getting so many votes because people think it would be cool for him to be our nations first black president.
Posted by: nick | November 3, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
we should keep in mind that congress has been dominated by democrats the last four years, and probably will continue that way for the next four.
there’s no point in worrying about the election tomorrow. america is already screwed, and by the end of the next presidency i think we’re gonna find all of our pockets ‘bankruptcified.’
Posted by: sank | November 3, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Chris in TX. Leadership is not the ability to give a good speech. leadership is reflected in accomplishments. Obama doesn’t really have any. His own supporters can’t name anything significant he’s done. He’s a great speaker…so what. Who the hell is he really? He is dismissive of any real challenging questions. An incredibly power hungry man who doesn’t really tell you who he is…is very dangerous. It’s not a Our America-your America thing. America is fairly center of the spectrum. Obama is not…he’s a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Posted by: Chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Another popularity contest is almost over…in four years we’ll do it again. Someone once said that we get the government we deserve. From most of the comment seen here we’re in for a rough ride.
Posted by: Monk | November 3, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
?????? **** obama
Posted by: ? | November 3, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Obama should go back to writing socialist fantasy books and leave governing to someone who has some experience at it. He is a media illusion at best. I hope we don’t have to find out the hard way like the last 8 years.
Posted by: Steve | November 3, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
germanguy,
middle class in Sen. Obamas view changes every month.
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Chris in TN sez: ” Leadership is not the ability to give a good speech. leadership is reflected in accomplishments.”
We agree to disagree. :-)
Accomplishments are a measure of the past. Leadership is a measure of the future. Leadership is the ability to communicate a clear vision and then get people behind you to support and work for that vision. Reagan was a master of this.
I really disagree with all this “wolf in sheep’s clothing” nonsense. He’s been running for 21 months and has been painting the same vision that whole time. Obama will govern from slightly left of center just like McCain would govern from slightly right of center. Each man had to pander to his party exremists to “maintain the base”. Neither individual can turn our country into a “socialist” or “communist” entity. There’s this pesky think called the constitution that gets in the way of any one person wielding that much power.
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
anyone citing fear tactics against Obama must not have seen the coverage on Palin. This was the most ferocius smear in history. Obama is a wimp!
Posted by: Steve | November 3, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
It is AMAZING!! Obama get’s a break every time. People are using comments because THAT IS ALL HE HAS. There isn’t much to go on. Our Cinti Enquirer is pretty objective I think comparing the candidates. In the some platform ideas McCain has been an early leader supporting/sponsored legislation for example on global warming but then Obama’s list has ( he seems to be stronger in this area by environmentalists)–that is nothing! I just think he has fast tracked to where he is not getting involved or doing his job for this moment. The people he has as stepping stones are critical and cracked. God help us.
Posted by: Eric | November 3, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
How many people on here lost money in the stock market? How many on here feel responsible for the collapse of the banking industry and financial institutions on Wall Street? How about the Mortgage Scam? Was it the middle-class? If so, that would explain where all the money is, that we all have to pay back. I guess we should all (middle-class) feel ashamed of ourselves for being so greedy and bringing this country to it’s knees.
So stop complaining about tax proposals and live with it. After all, we got the fed and treasury bailing us out for our abuses.
SERIOUSLY! Stop looking to put the blame on either candidate. The ones you should be venting your anger on, is the rich who got richer by ripping the middle and lower class off.
Do you see why it is correct in taxing to wealthiest individuals? Only an idiot or a rich person could argue against Obama’s tax program.
Posted by: gemanguy | November 3, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Chris in Texas
Yeah you are right one person can not but a majority can Lets see if Obama wins The dems will have the house and the senate they can pretty much write and pass what they see fit
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 3, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
We certainly do if you see leaderhip in a man who served barely two years in the Senate, did nothing and then spent 21 months running for the presidency. I call that weak.
I’d like to think that no one could unsurp our constitution but if anyone can it’s probably Obama. He calls it a document of negative liberties. Don’t underestimate what men can do. Not comparing him to Hitler before all of you get pissed. But Germany thought he was the bomb in the beginning too. It’s not how he says it…it’s what he says. Listen…and it is disturbing. He uses the term “fundamentally change” our country a lot. Well…we don’t need “fundamental changes”. We need good stewardship and someone who believes in the constitution. We all can argue all day and it’s irrelevant. I’m just not drinking the Kool Aid. The man does nothing for me. McCain is not my first choice…but he puts it out there for all to see. He is who he is. Obama is just not believable.
Posted by: chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
chris in TN ,
The problem is most of them can’t hear Jimmy!!!
Posted by: reddog0216 | November 3, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Obama and his “bots” really think they are going to win. They have just one error in their winning formaula… 57 states!
Posted by: Nancy | November 3, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
“mmmmm….isn’t “clean” coal an oxymoron?”
There are technologies that make burning coal a cleaner process. But plant owners won’t build new plants or retrofit existing plants as long as the costs of dirty energy (acid rain, global warming, particulate emissions, respiratory ailments, death rate increases, etc, etc) are “externalities”, that is, costs that are borne by people other than the operators.
Programs like “cap and trade” take some of the external costs and charge them back to the source of the problem, creating a financial incentive for operators to clean up their act.
That’s why such programs, and the technology to burn coal more cleanly and safely, are proposed by BOTH campaigns.
“Clean coal” is derided by some groups because the pollutants removed from the coal aren’t destroyed, but simply shift from waste stream to another – from gaseous to solid or liquid. Neither campaign has addressed this concern, to the best of my knowledge.
Posted by: Yukon Sam | November 3, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
WOWOWOOWOW!!!!! What an incredible bitch!!!?!?!?!?!
I wouldn’t want her as Governor, let alone ANY position in DC!!!!!!
Get here the F… out a’ here!!! NOW TODAY!!!!
Posted by: RM | November 3, 2008, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Chris in TN – true. But no matter what they do they cannot amend the Constitution to fundamentally change our Republic. That takes 75% of the state’s approval.
I share you’re concern about one party controlling both the legislative and executive branches. Both parties have abused their majority in the past. But, if the Dems screw it up we can throw a good portion of the house and senate out in 2010. In the meantime it looks like Obama is going to be president and certainly the congress with be majority democratic.
McCain lost my vote when he selected Frau Palin as his running mate. She represents the worst of the conservative movement and I cannot, with any conscience at all, put her any where near the White House.
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
chris in texas
“There’s this pesky think called the constitution that gets in the way of any one person wielding that much power.”
What a rediculous statement to make. You think “BUSH” hasn’t “wielded power”?
What about the number of regulations he has put into effect? The greatest of ANY Administration in history. Or don’t you call that “wielding of power”.
Posted by: gemanguy | November 3, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
chris in TN,
I’m with you 100%
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
IF Obama wins- He will not be the first Black President…He will be the first Mixed race President.
Posted by: darrylfromindy | November 3, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Bush wins also when it comes to “wielding” Executive Powers.
Posted by: gemanguy | November 3, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
He is just as much White as he is Black.
Posted by: darrylfromindy | November 3, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Kinda like all this talk about Obama redistributing the wealth. Income disparity in the United States has grown while Repubs have been in power will bring America down if it continues. Time to end socialism for the rich only and do a little redistribution to the middle. Keep talking about it Sarah, and bring the point home to the many Americans on the downside, Obama would be good for them.
Thanks much.
Posted by: bob row | November 3, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
From the McCain campaign, all I’ve heard is reasons why Obama should not be President. I’m still waiting to hear one reason why McCain SHOULD be President.
If McCain somehow ends up in the White House, he’s eventually going to have to come up with his own ideas to fix the economy. Ranting about “Barack the Wealth-Spreader” will not fix anything.
Posted by: George | November 3, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
“What about the number of regulations he has put into effect? The greatest of ANY Administration in history. Or don’t you call that “wielding of power”.”
Oh, I agree 100% that Bush abused his power. But who let him do that? It was a bunch of moronic, cowardly democrats in the congress that didn’t do their constitutional duty and oppose the executive when they did these things. The checks and balances are there if the congress had the courage to do their jobs. Bush pushed to see how far he could go and what he could get away with and congress rolled over and let him do it.
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
usa
You’re right about Obama.
300,000
250,000
200,000
150,000
germanguy must be in the safe poverty level range, but then again no one is safe with Obama
Posted by: Nancy | November 3, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Chris in Texas Frau Palin ?
You have got to be kidding. This woman has been the most attacked, for no good reason…I’ve ever seen. You are scared of putting Palin near the White House but not B O? He who has MULTIPLE links to crooks, racists (preacher no less) radicals like Ayers….
The worst of the conservative movement?
Surely you are kidding. She’s a woman with 5 kids who has accomplished something (more than BO) at a young age. So she’s believes in right to life and likes to shoot moose. She’s not an ultra left wing turd like Pelosi. Most women in America aren’t. Only the very loud ones who blog on these sites.
That is stunning….she is harmless and I beleive given a couple of years she could be on her game. Better her than bumbling Biden or Obama.
Posted by: chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
You damacrat BO supporters want to talk about liars? Why is it that the BO camp have refused Barbara West and her Florida news network any further interviews? Is it because they were asked the questions that we really wanted answered (redistrubtion of wealth, a marxist ideology for our country, etc.). Come on my fellow damacrats, WAKE UP, learn your facts. Listen to the sound bites that have been found from Biden and BO, they don’t lie about what this leftist, marxist, damacratic party is trying to bring about. If we really want change, then send both Biden and BO to their home states with a note of thanks for their services, but it’s no longer needed. Now that would be the truthful thing to do.
Posted by: Madasheck | November 3, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
Point of fact: Obama and Michelle do not have money in off-shore accounts. They both pay taxes like the rest of us.
Point of fact: McCain and Cindy have an off-shore account (that was setup during the Keating 5 scandel) and DO NOT PAY TAXES on that money.
I’m a tax payer, does that make me mad? Sure, but what can we do about it? Nothing. The Feds won’t go after their accounts.
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
chris in TN – From WW II until the 1970s, everyone’s income grew together. Since the 1970′s, the gap between rich and working people has grown and grown. I’m happy to work hard to earn my money. I am tired of seeing some rich kid get richer just because his parents were rich. That’s not America, that’s royalty. We fought for our independence against that system. That is the type of fundamental change that I think we need. I don’t think Obama has all the answers but I think he knows the direction we need to go. That’s why I support Obama.
Posted by: Working Man | November 3, 2008, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Chris in Texas,
As you say Frau Palin, Herr Senator Obama hat weniger experiance als Frau Palin und diesen Mann will man doch im Weissen Haus haben. WARUM??????
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
The facts that stare people in the face are often over-looked. I find these little known facts important, because it says something about the character of the person I’m dealing with. In this case, if a person isn’t willing to pay their fair share in support of their government, then they are not really Americans. Am I wrong in this assumption?
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
“she is harmless”
She doesn’t believe in basic scientific principles (evolution is invalid and the earth is 6,000 years old) and has no use for higher learning (if you believe her talk about “ivy league elitists).
She is all in favor of “getting government out of our lives” but advocates unprecedented government intrusion into the personal lives of our citizens.
She is semi-literate at best. She claims to have a journalism degree but cannot construct a simple sentence and has no geopolitical understanding of geography I would be ashamed to have her represent this great nation on the national stage.
After 3 months on the campaign trail she still doesn’t know what the VP does in the government. My children learned this in middle school. I guess she was napping.
She is a divisive force and continually attempts to divide us into the “real america” and “the other america”. Tactics like this are deplorable.
I’m a hunter and a fisherman but I don’t shoot wolves from helicopters. She is no “sportsman” and I think her behavior puts all hunters in a bad light. I wouldn’t go into the field with her.
“Bumbling Biden”, while not charismatic, at least has the intelligence to serve as VP.
This is my opinion. You are free to think what you want about her.
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
When 1,000 people show up for a Palin rally, Sarah probably sincerely thinks that is huge. She is convinced McCain/Palin is going to win in a landslide given her perspective from Alaska politics. 1,000 people at a rally in Alaska = a mandate. When the most famous person in this election only draws 1,000 people…the republicans are in trouble.
Posted by: PJ | November 3, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
usa
“Herr Senator Obama hat weniger experiance als Frau Palin”
What does experience really mean? I’m a politically savvy senior, but I know a lot of younger people that are more qualified then I to be president.
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Obama is going to put the nations coal industry out of business and that means a loss of thousands of job. The Coal Association of Ohio says this about Obama and his drones…
“It’s evident that this campaign has been pandering in states like Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Indiana and Pennsylvania to attempt to generate votes from coal supporters, while keeping his true agenda hidden from the state’s voters.
“Senator Obama has revealed himself to be nothing more than a short- sighted, inexperienced politician willing to say anything to get a vote. But today, the nation’s coal industry and those who support it have a better understanding of his true mission, to ‘bankrupt’ our industry, put tens of thousands out of work and cause unprecedented increases in electricity prices.
Posted by: ml | November 3, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
usa – yes, if you count the QUALITY of the experience. Palin was the mayor of a town of 7,000 and is the governor of a state that has less people in it than my school district. While I like my school board president, I don’t think that his “executive experience” qualifies him for VP. According to the current mayor of wasilla Frau Palin’s main duty as mayor was to sign the checks ever thursday. Perhaps Palin thinks that the job of VP is to sign the checks for all federal workers and, ergo, her experience counts as something?
Obama was a state senator for 12 years, is a Harvard-educated lawyer who led the Harvard Law Review (oops! elitist!), and a US senator. His experience is vastly more relevant that Palin’s.
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
ml
I’m on solar. Sorry.
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
BIG DADDY – you are the most ridiculous idiot (probably a racist redneck, by the sound of it) I absolutely think you are one of the most repulsive bigots that I have read in the past few weeks on any site. Wow, get an education (realizing you dropped out in the 5th grade), drink your beer and watch your football and shut your freaking misspelling pie hole. Get your facts straight. See how it feels to be insulted….you like it don’t you. If Palin ever gets power in the Presidency then I am moving to the worst third world country in the world (it would be better than anything under her simpleton like views) and yours….such a fool
Posted by: Pixxed off | November 3, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Chris in Texas
Basically what you are saying is Palin scares you because she has Christian beliefs. Ostensably…so does Obama.
I have no issues with strong women who stand up for what they believe in. Even if I don’t agree 100%. Yes I find a man who has ties to a terrorist and a racially charged preacher more frightening by far.
Posted by: Chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
germanguy, don’t put yourself down und ich glaube dass Governor Palin mehr hat als Senator Obama.
Posted by: usa | November 3, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Sarah Palin and Joe the plumber are goldfish in a tank of sharks. She and Joe the plumber are way over their heads and are being shamefully used by the republican party. If the republicans loose Sarah and Joe will take the fall for the loss and will become just another tender treat for the sharks. This charade is the most ridiculous side show I have ever seen.
Posted by: LANNY EDWARDS | November 3, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
Big Daddy
I am voting for Obama and my IQ is 142…how about yours? It doesn’t make anyone some more intelligent to attack another person’s point of view just because you don’t agree with them. I don’t understand why it make some people feel more important to take this tact. Both sides have done too much of that in this campaign.
Look at the issues, read the information presented by both canidates and then make the decision that is best for the nation.
Remember, what might be best for YOU at the time, may not be what is best for the country. Vote with ntegrity and the dignity that has been granted to each American..this means that we have a discussion about what we need not, put downs because we can’t agree.
Posted by: cabot5411 | November 3, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
The rich create jobs not the middle class. 50% of the middle class do not pay federal taxes and I don’t want to hear anything about they pay fica and medicare (that goes into an account that they will collect from and much more than they put it)I am middle class and I don’t want a tax credit on the back of someone who has worked harder than me to earn more money. What is that number again, $120,000, $150,000, $200,000 or $250,000. It’s changed so much I can’t keep track. A vote of Obama is a vote of more taxes regardless. Taxes are supposed to run our governmnent, keep us safe (no attacks since 911) and the likes, not to take from on person and give to another. I’m proud to pay taxes and I believe EVERYONE sould even if it’s a dollar.
Posted by: Rmman | November 3, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
sank
congress has been dominated by the dems for the past 4 yrs??? my friend, please have your sphincter surgically enlarged so you can pull your head out without causing any further damage
Posted by: sam hain | November 3, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Peoples wealth grew disproportionally different because some worked and some were on FDR’s welfare. Now I am not rich…I struggle paycheck to paycheck. I know that even though I fall under that $250k, $200K, 125k whatever it is today…threshold…I’m not going to get a tax break because the math doesn’t add up. But even if a got one…it would be consumed by either higher prices or job loss. Socialism does not work folks.
Posted by: Chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Chris in TN
“Basically what you are saying is Palin scares you because she has Christian beliefs. Ostensably…so does Obama.”
Christians don’t scare me since I am one. Christians that talk about “God being on their side” in an election bother me. Christians that say “God wants us to build a gas pipeline” bother me. Christians who perform rituals in their sanctuaries to purge witches frighten me.
“I have no issues with strong women who stand up for what they believe in.”
Neither do I. In fact I’m married to one. :-) That said, McCain could have picked any number of women who were extremely qualified to be VP – Kay Bailey Hutchinson for one. But he needed to pander to his extremist evangelical base so he picked Palin. If he had chosen someone qualified like Hutchinson he wouldn’t have to play the “comeback kid” in this election.
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
If he wins – How can Obama take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution when he thinks it is incorrect and needs to be changed? We might as well have Joseph Stalin running for president.
Posted by: Steve | November 3, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
Pixxed off- There are Doctors for people like you.
Posted by: darrylfromindy | November 3, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
Rmman
Shouldn’t you be telling your tax story to the McCain’s?
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Why in the world did focus any aspect of this article on the fact that she stubled over the words “bankrupt?” What are you trying to imply? No one is perfect especially in front of a crowd of people with the adrenalin flowing. Obama has made many mistakes in his speeches on the path to this point but I’ve never seen you point those out or even mention them in any articles. The media is destroying themselves by backing obama…in the end they will only be his puppet and this country will be democratic in principle only but communistic is all other ways. You just wait until you try to publish your first article bashing some aspect of the Obama administration if he’s elected. Your article will be buried and you will the chastized for you unfair treatment of Obama…you may have to get a job at Foxnews!
Posted by: ABC news is biased | November 3, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Reading these post you can sure tell the entelligence of the Obama supporters they couldn’t post a intelligent post if they had to so they have to call people names and belittle people. That is why they support Obama because they can’t see through his act.
Posted by: fnp9 | November 3, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Chris in Texas
I just disagree. I’m not going to sway you and you aren’t me. I just think it is shameful the way the media has shredded only the second VP candidate in history and given the Dem nominee for President a total and complete pass. Journalism is nearly dead.
This election is about the Presidency anyway. I will sleep beter at night with McCain there than Obama. We are in for tough times regardless of who gets in. Most democrats even do not understand how left Obama is. I don’t know what will happen tomorrow…but one thing is for certain….some idiots somewhere will either riot in celebration or riot in defiance. Glad I will be out of the way.
Posted by: Chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Chris in TN, your right on about journalism being dead. CNN, NBC and the like are in the tank for Obama. I don’t get it. Its like we alreay live in a communist country and are being brainwashed by the media. I wish there was a way we could stop them. Its disgusting.
Posted by: Steve | November 3, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
– If he wins – How can Obama take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution when he thinks it is incorrect and needs to be changed? –
Oh, so a constitutional law expert and one who has defended the constitution his entire life now thinks it’s ‘incorrect and needs to be changed’..
The amount of stupidity in America today is truly staggering.. and those who actually believe such BS as above are a perfect example of the ignorant blindly buying into anything thrown out regardless of how absurd it may be.
Posted by: Concerned American | November 3, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Hey Kool-Aid drinkers:
Do you even bother to listen to the audio clip before defending your man Obama’s stance or attacking his opponent? Sen. Obama doesn’t mention “clean coal” at all during the interview and goes on to say that his policies will cause energy prices to “skyrocket” as the energy industry passes along the exorbitant costs of his cap-and-trade policy. Just what we need in this economy, higher energy prices which will in turn drive up prices on all manufactured goods, groceries, etc. Well, its “change” you want — and I predict that’s what will be left from your pay after all the new taxes are taken out. Oh you honestly believe Obama will cut taxes? Those of you who work, please keep a copy of your next paystub so you can compare your it to what you bring home in the next few years. Please remember we told you so and you chose not to heed the warning. In fact, your vote will give a blank check to Obama, Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank and Chriss Dodd to reach deeper into your pockets than ever before. When a few hundred thousand coal workers join the unemployment rolls, how much do you think that will cost? I can’t wait to see how disillusioned you will be some fateful day after the Kool-aid has worn off and you finally realize how all these weasels pulled the wool over your gullible eyes. Hopefully we won’t have become a Third World nation by that time.
Posted by: resumeman | November 3, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
“Using an arm’s length distance from his wife’s assets to shield himself from conflict of interest problems, McCain released only a two-page summary from his wife’s separate 2006 federal income taxes which were filed six months late via an IRS-approved extension, after which Mrs. McCain received a 2007 tax extension until October 15, 2008—just 19 days before the November 4 presidential election—unless she files for an additional extension to hide the profits until after the election.”
It figures. They won’t reveal anything after the elections either.
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
I see some of the posters have learned to lie and spread fear and hate just like the professional republicans. Most people with a functioning cerebral cortex knows the scurilous accusation against Obama are lies. Go ahead, take a cheap shot at me if it makes you feel better.
Posted by: LANNY EDWARDS | November 3, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Lanny Edwards
I’m not going to take a cheap shot at you. Exactly which one’s are lies? I mean we don’t know really. He never gives a straight answer. These two are true and undisputable…he was a member of Jerimiah Wright’s racially charged church for 20 years and sung his praises…until the video. You really think that he never heard some of that venom? Really?
Bill Ayers who bombed the Pentagon was more than “just a guy who lived in my neighborhood”. Tony Rezko, convicted felone…was “just a guy in the hood” also. That’s some damn neighborhood. I’d move.
He has the ability to squash all of these rumors. But he can’t. Because some are very true.
Posted by: Chris in TN | November 3, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Chris in TN -
“Journalism is nearly dead.” – I certainly agree with you on this one. Journalism is just entertainment these days. That’s why I get most of my news from internet sources – they allow me to see both sides and decide for myself. Also, I like to read what other countries think about certain issues – gives you a whole new perspective on things.
Like you say, the missiles are basically out of the silos now – especially since such a huge number of people have already voted. Nothing really to do but sit back and wait.
I really hope that whoever wins there won’t be any violence. That would be a tragedy for our country. Are we some 3rd world banana republic or are we the US of A! Regardless, we need to come together as a country so solve the HUGE problems we face if there is to be a country to leave to our children and grandchildren. I’ve already voted for Obama. But, if McCain wins I’ll get behind him and support the Presidency as any “real american” should.
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Hey. Did you hear the news?
Palin has released her medical records.
There were no surprises.
As expected, the results of the MRI showed she doesn’t have a brain.
Posted by: Bust'em | November 3, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
The Republicans seem to be having a hard time realizing that the majority of other Americans are sick and tired or their failed policies and religious fanaticism they’ve tried to graft onto our government. Maybe they’ll finally ‘get-it’ that they’re the minority now when they realize that only relying on Fox News (oxymoron there) and whatever their pastor tells them is actually ‘not’ the ‘truth’ come Tuesday evening when Obama wins the Presidency. :-)
It’s sad that they’re so isolated and ignorant that they think the entire world press has some collaboration or scheme against them by terming everything other than those above-mentioned sources as ‘the liberal media’… :-)
Oh well, their party is pretty much finished in this country as a serious political party anyway.
Posted by: Aaron Lindahl | November 3, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
fnp9
Appears you made a slight mistake in your spelling, entelligence is spelled intelligence, just though I would point that out due to the fact that your post was about someone’s lack of intelligence.
Posted by: LANNY EDWARDS | November 3, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
“Hey Kool-Aid drinkers:”
Hey, somebody fill me in.
How is being a Kool-Aid drinker such a big insult?
Is it the opposite of being Joe Six-Pack, or is there something else to it?
Posted by: Bust'em | November 3, 2008, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
I think we need to demand she gives her medical documents to the media – clearly there are some mental issues.
Posted by: jti | November 3, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
There is only one thing about McCain that turns me off. The is the use of the “Patriot Hero” in his campaign.
Heros are only in 2 places. Arlington and comic books.
There are many VietNam vets who will tell you that if they had a chose of sitting out the war in the Hanoi Hilton after only 12 hours of combat flight time “over” VietNam or 17,000 hours in the jungles on the ground, they would take the Hilton.
Showing pictures of McCain in a hospital bed with injuries he sustained as a result of his plane crash, isn’t heroic.
Walk the lines of head stones at Arlington National Cemetary and read the 59,000 names on the WALL and you will know who the real Heros are.
Shame on you John.
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Hey just a quick question — Since Senator Obama seems to be so motivated to “redistribute” wealth from the “haves” to the “have nots”, why is his half brother in Kenya living in squalor on a dollar a month and his aunt Zeituni who he he mentions so prominently in his autobiography now living in a Boston slum? I guess that Barack and Michelle only want to redistribute YOUR money, not their own.
Posted by: resumeman | November 3, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Wouldn’t vote for McCain or Palin but I have to say McCain had the funniest skit on SNL Saturday.
Steve,
Obama can protect and uphold the constitution the same way many soldiers uphold their vow to protect and serve even though they may not agree with war.
Posted by: Lynn | November 3, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
resumeman
Interesting point there, but I have you trumped… Read this and then comment – http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/McCainsHidingWarProfits.htm
Posted by: german guy | November 3, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Obama doesn’t want nuclear energy because it is unsafe, doesn’t want offshore drilling, now he says coal companies will get bankrupt; tell me how are we suppose to be energy independent when he is against everything? People in Ohio and Pennsylvania should really pay close attention what this guy’s agenda is that will directly effect them.
Posted by: Pee Vee, Long Island | November 3, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Germanguy:
If you had ever had taken the time to listen to John McCain even once about his military experience, you would have heard him say that he doesn’t “consider himself a hero, but that he served with heroes”. He has always been very humble on this topic — and for you to denigrate his service and sacrifice is quite telling. I’m willing to bet you’ve never put on the uniform in defense of this country. Fortunately, those who have, have defended your right to free speech, regardless of how idiotic your ravings may be. Semper fi!
Posted by: resumeman | November 3, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
With the way the MSM has reported on the candidates and their misgivings, I’m surprised that so much was not reported on, such as – “Thomas Heneghan, a U.S. intelligence authority with scores of federal contacts, said federal agents also know that Mrs. McCain made millions in insider short-sale profits involving Swiss re-insurance put option stock orders placed prior to the September 11 attacks—profits of death which have remained untaxed by the U.S. government and raise questions as to her 9/11 tip-off.”
I would think that this would have gotten front page reporting. Interesting oversight to say the least.
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Pee Vee, Long Island,
Obama has found a new, renewable source of energy which will fulfill 70% of US needs for the next four years:
He’s proposed capturing all that hot air coming from you jerks and using it to drive turbines.
Posted by: Bust'em | November 3, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
resumeman
Your youth shows.
I was almost the 59001st head stone at Arlington. God spared the rest of me.
For you information, I earned the right to “speak my mind” when and where I chose.
What’s holding you back from Iraq?
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
germanman:
Tom Flocco? here’s some links about his lack of credibity:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3617
http://educate-yourself.org/tg/tomfloccoexpose25oct05.shtml
Posted by: resumeman | November 3, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
resumeman
By the way…
Semper Fi(delis) brother.
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
germanguy,
I hear you.
Sadly, I saw a show on TV yesterday about how the tropical forests in Vietnam were destroyed by agent orange and napalm.
They said it is estimated that 5 million Vietnamese were killed in the war. Most were women and children. Many more were handicapped, as were hundreds of thousands of brave you American men who had nothing to do with the politics of that war.
Strangely, the Vietnamese are not angry with America. They are just glad to be free, as they inch towards capitalism.
In the meantime, I’m afraid America has forgotten the lessons we had learned after Vietnam.
There are no good wars, though some, like WWII, are necessary.
I pray we will have a president who will not lead us needlessly into battle, yet who will have the wisdom to know when it’s necessary.
Posted by: Bust'em | November 3, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
germanguy:
They don’t allow men near 60 like myself to serve, more’s the pity. Another wrong ASSumption on your part, jumping to conclusions. If you truly did serve this country, then I salute you and will cease to badger you any more.
Posted by: resumeman | November 3, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Bust’em
Comments like yours are welcomed by many.
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
resumeman
You know that as ‘former Marines’, we have earned the right to agree to disagree.
I officially rename you to “Badgerman”. Go in peace my friend.
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
DIEBOLD will decide this election… Stop kidding yourselves.
Posted by: hmn | November 3, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Alot of people say that Sarah Palin speaks to women the way they would like to be spoken to. I guess the modern woman enjoys sarcasm, innuendo and lies. MOdern man take note.
Posted by: John | November 3, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Obama’s grandmother dies in Hawaii
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Obama’s grandmother dies in Hawaii
http://www.chron.com/disp/discuss.mpl/nation/6092426.html?p=3
Posted by: germanguy | November 3, 2008, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Bustem, you’re busting my gut making me laugh as hard as I am now after all your jokes. Really, though, keep your day job. Ooops you probably don’t have one. And to answer the Kool-Aid question, “don’t drink the red Kool-Aid” refers to the Jim Jones cult from back in the 1970′s. Are you even old enough to remember that era? Jim Jones was a preacher from over here in the United States. Decided to move his “church” over to Africa to a little town named after himself “Jonestown”. He eventually decided that he was going to play God and had convinced everyone to commit suicide by drinking poisonous red Kool-Aid. Therefore, it’s kind of similar to this day in age with the BO camp handing out their own type of suicidal red Kool-Aid. Please, save yourself though, don’t drink it. IT WILL KILL YOU. And try not to post after drinking it, the jokes are starting to get lame. Thanks for the entertainment and hope you enjoyed your little history lesson.
Posted by: Madasheck | November 3, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Bustem, sorry about my post. I’m a little high right now and tend to not think straight.
Posted by: Madasheck | November 3, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Alaska is waiting to impeach her so she can forget about the next four years. I hope we never hear or see her again! Can’t say one original thought and trying to talk like Joe Biden now, repeating her sentences…….. Here;s the truth:———-
“The point Obama is making is that we need to transition from coal burning power plants built with old technology to plants built with advanced technologies — and that is exactly the action that will be incentivized under a cap and trade program.”
“After John McCain said he’d like to ‘transition away from coal entirely,’ his campaign is hardly in a position to criticize a coal state Senator like Barack Obama who has outlined a $150 billion investment in clean coal and other technologies to create jobs and build a new energy economy,” Strickland said. “The truth is, John McCain and Sarah Palin can’t name a single thing they’d do differently on the economy than George Bush, so all they have to offer is last minute, desperate distortions. Hardworking families don’t need more Washington-style political attacks, they need a President who will create jobs and stand up for the middle class – and that’s Barack Obama.”
Posted by: sue | November 3, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Alaska is waiting to impeach her so she can forget about the next four years. I hope we never hear or see her again! Can’t say one original thought and trying to talk like Joe Biden now, repeating her sentences…….. Here;s the truth:———-
“The point Obama is making is that we need to transition from coal burning power plants built with old technology to plants built with advanced technologies — and that is exactly the action that will be incentivized under a cap and trade program.”
“After John McCain said he’d like to ‘transition away from coal entirely,’ his campaign is hardly in a position to criticize a coal state Senator like Barack Obama who has outlined a $150 billion investment in clean coal and other technologies to create jobs and build a new energy economy,” Strickland said. “The truth is, John McCain and Sarah Palin can’t name a single thing they’d do differently on the economy than George Bush, so all they have to offer is last minute, desperate distortions. Hardworking families don’t need more Washington-style political attacks, they need a President who will create jobs and stand up for the middle class – and that’s Barack Obama.”
Posted by: sue | November 3, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
“Decided to move his “church” over to Africa to a little town named after himself “Jonestown”. ”
Ummmm. Actually Jonestown was in South America – Guyana to be exact. I hope you enjoyed “your little geography lesson”.
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Boy, I wish I could let myself get high with the rest of my fellow damacrats, but I just don’t see that as the responsible thing to do (along with not voting for BO). But trust me, I think if I was high, I would be on the BO Koo-Aid band wagon also.
Posted by: Madasheck | November 3, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Thanks Chris in Texas, did you have to look that one up? Did you use an actual atlas (you know a book with the world maps in it) or did you choose wikkipedia? I do say there is something to be learned every day. Now let me give you a lesson, BO is a bad choice, don’t drink his Kool-Aid, it has poison in it. This message is from a registered damacrat.
Posted by: Madasheck | November 3, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
I’m a stupid jerk and I know it, what’s your excuse Chris?
Posted by: Madasheck | November 3, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
I like screwing with peoples minds. They are so blind.
Posted by: Madasheck | November 3, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Madasheck – nope, I actually KNEW where Jonestown was/is.
I think I’ll pass on your “lesson”. One cannot be taught by morons.
Posted by: Chris in Texas | November 3, 2008, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
You got me….OPPS!
Posted by: Madasheck | November 3, 2008, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Can she open her mouth without lying or making a stupid comment? I dont think so…
Please read the comments in their entirety before commenting, if your not just a right wing zealot.
Also, this interview has been available to the public all this time, the “cover up” is just another McCain/Palin fabrication.
Posted by: Michael | November 3, 2008, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
That’s okay. I think you meant OOOPS! Check your typing in the future. Hey Chris, you apparently took the lesson when you responded to my post. Too late, you were caught making sure I had my facts right. Oh and try not to show your intelligence by calling names. I have yet to call anyone else any names. I choose to accept what everyone has to say with a grain of salt and realize that not everyone chooses to be enlightened by world events. You being one of those that choose to be in the dark (calling names). Really, just stick to the “true” facts, avoid name calling and your comments will be taken with far more creedance.
Posted by: Madasheck | November 3, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Palin is an so an attacker and distorter of facts; no, she is not a good pick for VP, yes…
It’s striking: how little we know. We have issues –and, we have some very serious issues that we know that we need to address, without a doubt– yet, we seldom agree on anything, never seem to be able to find any common ground, and always seem to be left with differences. No solutions, just bitterness. We stand forever divided. Mud flies, everyone gets dirty. It is OK. Things are a mess. There is no progress. It’s OK. Why is it this way? It is this way because we blame, call names, form opposing groups, label on another and forget that we are supposed to be trying to solve problems that we all face in common. McCain – Palin have run their campaign this way. Barack Obama has based his on getting beyond all of the ridiculous, mean-spirited, nonsensical divisiveness and stereotypical-labeling that has, for far too long has defined status quo, bickering American politicking.
I will vote for Barack Obama with all of my heart and soul (I cannot overstate this).
I will support John McCain, equally, if he wins.
**Obama – Biden**
United we Stand…
Posted by: Joe | November 3, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Palin is so an attacker and distorter of facts; no, she is not a good pick for VP; yes…
It’s striking: how little we know. We have issues –and, we have some very serious issues that we know that we need to address, without a doubt– yet, we seldom agree on anything, never seem to be able to find any common ground, and always seem to be left with differences. No solutions, just bitterness. We stand forever divided. Mud flies, everyone gets dirty. It is OK. Things are a mess. There is no progress. It’s OK. Why is it this way? It is this way because we blame, call names, form opposing groups, label one another and forget that we are supposed to be trying to solve problems that we all face in common. McCain – Palin have run their campaign rigt-on these negative lines. Barack Obama has based his on getting beyond all of the ridiculous, mean-spirited, nonsensical divisiveness and stereotypical-labeling that has for far too long defined status quo, bickering American politicking.
I will vote for Barack Obama with all of my heart and soul (I cannot overstate this).
I will support John McCain, equally, if he wins.
**Obama – Biden**
United we Stand…
Posted by: Jimmy the Greek | November 3, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Here is the comment from Deborough Sanders, the very Republican commentator and McCain supporter:
The blog headline read: “Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry” and the author charged that the audio of the meeting with Obama “had been hidden from the public.”
One problem: The charge is utter crap.
Far from hiding the meeting, the Chronicle posted audio and video of Barack Obama’s meeting with the editorial board on January 17, 2008.
And Obama did not say that he will bankrupt the coal industry. To the contrary, he said, “this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion.” He then explained that he believed in setting emission limits, and letting industry — including coal — figure out how to operate within those limits. And: “So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can, it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”
Posted by: Michael | November 3, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
I am excited that Sarah Palin will be the first woman to be Vice President of the United States of America!
I can’t wait for her to sit next to Nancy Pelosi for the State of the Union speech. A sight to see!
Posted by: Jewls | November 3, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Obama’s grandmother has just died.
I hope all the nasty people that were horrible about Obama’s trip to see her just one more time feel really bad now.
If Palin has a shred of decency, she should be offering her condolences immediately. So should McCain.
Any presidential candidate worth their salt would do so without hesitation.
If they fail to do so, they will be making the biggest (and most heartless) mistake of their lives.
My thoughts are with you, Obama family.
Posted by: going2hope4better | November 3, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
“If they fail to do so, they will be making the biggest (and most heartless) mistake of their lives.”
So if they say they are sorry you will vote for them? Or are you giving some type of death threat?
Posted by: Ice | November 3, 2008, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
No – neither.
I live in Europe – people, even political rivals show compassion to each other when a family tragedy strikes.
Americans are so twisted and cruel at times – no wonder the rest of the world hates you.
Posted by: going2hope4better | November 3, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
In Europe, it is a sign of strength and compassion to show humanity.
Just as an observer, if a person is undecided as a voter, then showing humanity could swing the vote either way.
If Palin and McCain show no compassion, then they may lose votes because of it.
Just an observation – that is all.
How your warped mind could make more of that is beyond me. You better see a doctor.
Posted by: going2hope4better | November 3, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Ok.. first, Palin and McCain never even met personally before she was asked to be his running candidate for the vice presdential seat. Plain is the epitemy of a dumb witted woman and only GOD knows how she got the position of Govenor, in any state. Whoever said this is an end to an ERROR.. I love ya! Nothing will change for the better with McCain and Palin… so PLEASE GO BARACK YOUR VOTE!!
Posted by: Kriste | November 3, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
She is such a dipsh*t.
Posted by: Valerie | November 3, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Why has Palin refused to make her medical records public?
I’m talking about the very same records that would show she was not pregnant with that last kid.
Posted by: Bran Muffin | November 3, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Bran Muffin, I just asked the same question on another blog:
Where are Palin’s medical records? Why has she refused to release them? Is it because they would not show she had a baby this year?
Posted by: Carl | November 3, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
McSame and Obummer can say all they want but it’s really up to Congress. Really the only area where a president has a huge impact is foreign policy and Supreme Court nominees. If there is a dem sweep, the reps will work hard to filibuster in the Senate to block the most far left ideas. Further, I predict the dems will screw-up enough so that the reps will take back control of congress in 2010.
Anyway – Obummer will likely win since he is pulling the same populist/socialism crap that brought down economies in Latin America and Europe.
BTW: people seem to forget that congress has a lower approval rating than Bush but its difficult to replace incumbents.
Congress has the power to legislate so both parties are at fault for our current economic situation since the dems have controlled congress since 06 and the reps since 94 before that. The dems wanted to score points with their minority constituents in the 90s with cheap loans and the reps wanted the profits (a similar argument can be made why both parties have done little to fix illegal immigration, health care, and alternative fuels; i.e., constituents versus profits).
Posted by: ldriscoll2162 | November 4, 2008, 12:46 am 12:46 am
Is McCain ACTUALLY on the Campaign Trail Right now???
I found this picture of him in a HOSPITAL online earlier, it was up on some news site, then all of the sudden I couldn’t find it again, as though The McCain Campaign is covering it up…I managed to Save it to my Photobucket Account…Does anyone know if this is REAL?
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr160/thelocke/hospital-shot.jpg
Posted by: TheLocke | November 4, 2008, 1:00 am 1:00 am
History will be made with Sarah Palin as our next Vice President and not a muslim man who is strongly antisemitic in the White House.
Posted by: Demsnever | November 4, 2008, 1:10 am 1:10 am
A vote for Obama is a vote for Bill Ayers and Rashid Khalidi.
Posted by: Demsnever | November 4, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
Say no to socialism. Say no to Obama.
Posted by: Demsnever | November 4, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
What a joke! Sarah Palin is the disgrace of the Republican party. She is a complete moron who doesn’t know how to speak in correct context, never mind support her BS statements with facts. Do you really want her as YOUR next VP..and potential President of the United States of America? I sure as hell don’t. Do the right thing and vote Obama/Biden 08!!
Posted by: Dawn | November 4, 2008, 2:28 am 2:28 am
– Say no to socialism. Say no to Obama. –
Yawn.. yeah, call me when they come to take my tractor away to give it to the ‘collective’.. in the mean time, you might want to read the endorsement by the Economist:
http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displayStory.cfm?story_id=12516666&source=features_box_main
I guess like everybody else but the totally ignorant, they don’t buy into your ‘socialist’ BS either.
Posted by: Concerned American | November 4, 2008, 3:14 am 3:14 am
IF Want to be a TERRORIST , SOCIALIST Like CUBA, IRAN, SYRIA AND CHAVES (Venezuela) ALSO , Vote for B–H–O
Posted by: Flores Guevarra | November 4, 2008, 5:57 am 5:57 am
She just upped her foreign policy cred, she can see Canada from Ohio.
Yay! caribou barbie!
Posted by: make it known | November 4, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Palin is a dumb bitch.. she needs to crawl back up in her mommas ass… PROBAMA
Posted by: gilk | November 4, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Yeah we’ll just see who’s cocky tonight after McCain rightfully wins the presidency! Sorry but the Antichrist will not be winning. Not this time!!!!
MCCAIN!!!! PALIN!!!!
VICTORY ’08!!!!
Question? How many times has the McCain campaign screwed up? 0
Question? How many times has the Obama campaign screwed up? Countless!
Example: The video of Obama meeting with Rashid Khalidi that the LA Times will not release!!
The every dropping wage of those he considers to be middle class. Did you know it started out being $48,000 a year alot of you are shooting yourself in the foot by voting for this goon!
There is so much more I can list but I am on my way out to go vote for someone who is pro-life and he has and always will have my vote!! Still wanna vote for Obama… watch this video!
http://www.obamamustsee.com!!
See how you feel about him then!
Thank you
Posted by: Bethany | November 4, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Yeah, and I can see Russia from my back window! What an a–!
Posted by: JoeB. | November 4, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Bethany, outside of the article I watched the video you listed. Abortion was one of the issues in my decision, mostly late-term and partial-birth. Prior to this time I did not think abortion was going to be an election issue for me. Seeing this video I move strongly against any abortion. Those who favor abortion over birth control prior to getting pregnant argued about states mandating a sonogram, even though they did not have to look. I think they should have to look at what was pulled out if they insist on an abortion. Their discomfort is less than the torture the child went through. Giving a child up for adoption is better than slaughtering it.
Posted by: ghs4u | November 4, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm