Nov 2, 2008 6:09pm
Poll Cats II, Two Days Out
Latest quality polling of likely voters in battleground states:
Missouri – 47-46 McCain, 10/29 NBC/Mason-Dixon
North Carolina – 49-46 McCain, 10/29 NBC/Mason-Dixon
Ohio – 47-45 McCain, 10/29 NBC/Mason-Dixon
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Posted by: KnowThyself | November 2, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Aren’t those states considered “Red” anyway?
I’m much more interested in PA, NV, CO and NM………
Posted by: JR | November 2, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Then there’s the TIPP overall… 46.7% for O-man… 44.6% for Mac … and, drumroll please… 8.7% undecided. Uh oh.
Posted by: jcarob | November 2, 2008, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
You might add, Jake, that Obama has gained many points in all these Mason-Dixon polls when compared to their last round of state polls. That’s the indicator here.
Obama’s position has actually gotten stronger — when looking at the Mason-Dixon poll trendlines — particularly in states like Colorado, Nevada and Virginia. In other states, movement has been negligible and within the margin of error.
In Colorado, Obama has gained five percentage points from the previous Mason-Dixon poll, Sept. 29-Oct. 1, when the candidates were tied at 44%. In the latest poll, Obama leads by five, 49%-44%.
In Nevada, Obama has gained 10 points since August, when McCain led by six, 47%-41%, and two points since their Oct. 8-9 poll. In the latest poll, Obama leads 47%-43%.
In Virginia, Obama has gained six percentage points since a Sept. 29-Oct. 1 poll that showed a three-point McCain lead, 48%-45%. In the latest poll, it’s Obama who leads by three, 47%-44%.
Btw -
ABC/WaPo poll this day in 2004: Bush + 1
ABC/WaPo poll today, 2008: Obama + 11
In the RCP Average Obama reached his highest peak TODAY in the national polls: 50,7 % of the votes.
Posted by: poll dog | November 2, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
According to the polls, even if McCain gets those three states, Obama still gets 291 electoral votes. So why is this important?
Posted by: JR | November 2, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Mason Dixon polls aren’t even accurate. If you look at every single other poll Obama is up by at least 4 or 5 points. Obama is going to win by a landslide
Posted by: Kathy | November 2, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
They are all RED states and Tapper left out:
Colorado – where Obama has a 5% increase since the last Mason-Dixon poll and leads McCain 49-44
VA- Obama has a 6% increase since the last Mason-Dixon poll and leads McCain 47-44
Nevada – Obama has a 12% increase since the last Mason-Dixon poll and leads McCain 47-43
Also – ALL red states.
Posted by: just Vote (the real one) | November 2, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Obama will win all those states, no doubt. He has the best ground game ever and he is going to make 3 stops in Ohio today, and he already had a rally with over 60,000 people in Ohio. He had over a 100,000 people when he was in Missouri last week. And he will be going to North Carolina tomorrow, which will help his chances of winning there too. Obama will win the election.
Posted by: Kathy | November 2, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
McCain should already have those states locked, but he doesn’t and he can’t even afford to lose one. Obama will win the election.
Posted by: Kathy | November 2, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
What the hell is “TIPP overall”, some other idiot named Steave uses that so called poll to give McCain the lead.
Maybe you should just make one up.
How about “Bogus International” has McCain ahead 90% to 10%, yeah, that’s it….
Posted by: JR | November 2, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
If he isn’t leading by at least 8 points in any poll McCain will win, don’t forget the Bradley effect.
Posted by: HH | November 2, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
You don’t think there is really anyone at the mason/dixon who really believes mccain will win?
someone has to be for mccain.
even that hateful christopher hitchens said he is now for obama. and it is not so much that he likes obama. he just realizes how bad mccain would be for the country at this point.
and for once and probally never,ever again, i will agree with christopher hitchens.
Posted by: cheer up, smile, nertz! | November 2, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Jake, why such a selective pick from the Mason-Dixon polls? They’re full of good news for Obama, and you know it, and this what you show of them?
Hmmmm…
That’s the Drudge tactic, of course, but I did not expect it from you.
Posted by: pronto | November 2, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
So HH, your saying that at least 8% of America is so rabid racist that they could never in any way vote for a black man, even when he is the best candidate?
Posted by: JR | November 2, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
JR – Our names have been hijacked by one crude poster re: Obama’s aunt.
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: just Vote (the real one) | November 2, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
just Vote …WHAT?
Posted by: JR | November 2, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Jake, what’s up?
THIS (check Virginia!) is what counts most in the latest Mason-Dixon polls:
In Colorado, Obama has gained five percentage points from the previous Mason-Dixon poll, Sept. 29-Oct. 1, when the candidates were tied at 44%. In the latest poll, Obama leads by five, 49%-44%.
In Nevada, Obama has gained 10 points since August, when McCain led by six, 47%-41%, and two points since their Oct. 8-9 poll. In the latest poll, Obama leads 47%-43%.
In Virginia, Obama has gained six percentage points since a Sept. 29-Oct. 1 poll that showed a three-point McCain lead, 48%-45%. In the latest poll, it’s Obama who leads by three, 47%-44%.
See the trend-lines, Jake?
Why muzzle the good news?
Plus – you forgot that your own ABC is giving Obama an ELEVEN point national lead today over McCain?
An no word on that!?
Posted by: peter | November 2, 2008, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
JR – go back and read the comments on Tapper’s post regarding Obama’s Aunt……
Obama/Biden 08
Posted by: just Vote (the real one) | November 2, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
By my guess, even if McCain won IN, OH, FL, NC, MO, MT, ND Obama still wins with 291 electoral votes. Even if you give him PA, Obama still gets 270 and is president.
Posted by: JR | November 2, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
A local official put Obama’s crowd at 80,000 today in Cleveland, OHIO.
Posted by: boy | November 2, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
You mean the crowd that was there to see Bruce Springsteen. Yes funny if 60% that crowd vote for Mccain. I would sit and stomach listening to Obama’s garbage just to see THE BOSS. Still doesn’t mean they will vote for Obama.
But typical Obama supporter you are mesmerized by the messiah and his crowds. I think Obama supporters shoudl be worried about who does not show up. Like me a democrat. Who has not been called once by polls or visited. I am voting McCain!
Posted by: Kim | November 2, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Palin said this at a rally in Ohio today regarding Fey holding up a Sarah 2012 t-shirt?.?
“Speaking of great performances, did anyone catch John McCain on ‘SNL’ last night?” Ms. Palin said, drawing cheers.
“A little advice to Tina Fey,” Ms. Palin said. “I want to make sure she’s holding on to that Sarah outfit. Because she’s gonna need it in the next four years.”
(NY Times – Caucus)
Posted by: just Vote (the real one) | November 2, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
JR… just for you.
IBD/TIPP Tracking Poll: Day Twenty-One
Posted Sunday, November 02, 2008
The race tightened again Sunday as independents who’d been leaning to Obama shifted to McCain to leave that key group a toss-up. McCain also pulled even in the Midwest, moved back into the lead with men, padded his gains among Protestants and Catholics, and is favored for the first time by high school graduates.
Google it.
Posted by: jcarob | November 2, 2008, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
This worries mee. If Obama does not break 50% in swing state polling tomorrow he is in trouble, ahead or behind.
Undecideds are NOT voting for him.
Posted by: DJK | November 2, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Kim
Probally because it is not true.
Posted by: MM | November 2, 2008, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
jcarob
Switch independents or gain independents?
The end doesn’t justify the means.
Posted by: MM | November 2, 2008, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
Folks, don’t worry…
On the contrary!
Check RCP for what’s REALLY happening in the polls!
Obama reached his PEAK today in the national polls, with an average of 50,7 % of the votes. That is his BEST score this whole year, and it is his score TODAY! With 2 days to go… LOL!
Carefully study the graphic of the race between Obama and McCain…
LOL!
Posted by: LOL! | November 2, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP
National
Obama 43, McCain 40
wow, jcarob, the Investor’s Business Daily poll, how could I have missed that?
hahahahahahaha
Gosh and everybody else is paying attention to ABC, CBS, CNN, Zogby, what fools they are…
Posted by: JR | November 2, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Stick to what you know JTP. Those polls were from 28/29. Immediately after, Obama hit the Infomercial got momentum going the other way for at least a few days. Also, MD is consistently more Pro-McCain in house effects. We don’t know if they are correct or not, but it’s worth mentioning.
Posted by: thorfinn | November 2, 2008, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
kat
I tend towards the polling averages. They show the trend like no other. I predict McCain will win N. Carolina, Missouri, and Indiana. They are all close though Obama may upset.
Posted by: MM | November 2, 2008, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
Stick to what you know JTP. Those polls were from 28/29. Immediately after, Obama hit the Infomercial got momentum going the other way for at least a few days. Also, MD is consistently more Pro-McCain in house effects. We don’t know if they are correct or not, but it’s worth mentioning.
Posted by: thorfinn | November 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Your search skills leave something to be desired, JR. Keep searching. The truth shall set you free.
Posted by: jcarob | November 2, 2008, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
For example, on the 31
st.
A new SurveyUSA poll in Pennsylvania shows Sen. Barack Obama leading Sen. John McCain, 51% to 44%.
Posted by: thorfinn | November 2, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Kim: “In the future, look and see if you can see
a single soldier or police officer in uniform when you see
Obama. Why? …
Why would I make this up?”
Obama went out of his way to get photo ops with troops – shaking hands, shooting hoops, we all saw this.
Go to google image search and look for Obama police and you get pages of pictures of Obama glad handing troops, police officers, police chiefs, etc.
Are you lying or did you really accept this nonsense without question? And Obama is the one accused of having a cult like following. Why are YOU making this up?
Posted by: jhw539 | November 2, 2008, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Jake, isn’t it newsworthy that, less than 48 hours before Election Day, Obama today reached his highest rating in the RCP average of national polls?
That’s pretty spectacular, you know, also from a historical viewpoint.
Posted by: master | November 2, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
McCain will win in a landslide.
Posted by: Kim | November 2, 2008, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
To all the confused McCain supporters, the election day is not and never will be November 5th 2008, it is November 4th. Stop suppressing the vote.
Posted by: MM | November 2, 2008, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
MM ” I tend toward polling averages . . .”
With polling averages in mind from the latest Real Clear Politics poll, Obama leads in Ohio with a 4.2 lead. McCain and Obama are pretty much tied in the other two states, with McCain having an insignificant lead of 0.7 in MO and Obama having another insignificant lead of 0.3.
Posted by: kat | November 2, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
DJK,
Don’t sweat it. Mason-Dixon are the ONLY battleground state polls where Obama doesn’t hit 50. In all the others — including the more recent ones (these MD numbers are nearly a week old) — Obama’s polling at 50 and above.
My prediction about the undecideds? They’re mainly disaffected Republicans who don’t want to vote Obama, but can’t bring themselves to vote for McCain either. Over a quarter of them will stay home; of the rest who manage to drag themselves to the polls, at least of quarter will bail instead of waiting in the long lines. Of those who do vote, Obama will end up peeling off a third in “what the hell?” moments in the voting booth.
The likelihood of all the current undecideds suddenly breaking for McCain is about the same as my chances of winning $10 million.
Posted by: R | November 2, 2008, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
In Virginia, Obama has gained six percentage points since a Sept. 29-Oct. 1 poll that showed a three-point McCain lead, 48%-45%. In the latest poll, it’s Obama who leads by three, 47%-44%.
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For VA, Mason Dixon and the Washington Post tend to be the most accurate.
While Mason Dixon tends to be a right leaning poll in general, I think the race is as close as they say here.
They are correct though, Obama is ahead and will take VA on Tuesday.
Posted by: Dave in VA - REAL VA | November 2, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
In it, I wrote that Jake Taper took the three states out of the 16 states that had McCain winning in the poll and disregarded the remaining 84% of wins. I also compared Mason Dixon to the CNN polls that had Obama wining in NC and OH with landslides. Profanity and expressions of racism have a longer shelf life around here than the presentation of facts.
Posted by: kat | November 2, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
kat
That is why I predict McCain will win Missouri, Indiana, and N. Carolina…. Read my post.
Posted by: MM | November 2, 2008, 7:44 pm 7:44 pm
Just released:
Final USA TODAY/Gallup estimate: Obama, 53%; McCain, 42% – 11 points
Obama has a good chance of winning Missouri. Over 250,000 have attend an Obama rally during the last few weeks in Missouri. More people would have attended if there had been more space.
Last night, about 40,000 people attended an Obama rally in Springfield, MO, the reddest area of Missouri.
About 20,000 people attended a Palin rally in Springfield, MO a few days earlier
Posted by: Julie | November 2, 2008, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
For what it’s worth, all of those MD polls were within the margin of error.
Posted by: Susan G | November 2, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
If poll results are posted, Jake, I’d suggest you also post results from THE SAME POLL over a (previous)period of time in order to see the TREND in a particular poll. Trends are what’s important, because each poll does have it’s own bias, whether we want to admit it or not. So tell us: What were the Mason-Dixon numbers IN CONTEXT? Have Obama’s numbers been going down?? Have McCain’s been going up? Let us know, please. Thanks.
Posted by: Barbyrah | November 2, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Just listening to Obama speech in Cinncinati with a great large excited crowd at football stadium!! Real excited supporters! So nice to see happy crowds for Obama!! I have had it with McCain negative hate mongering crowds!!
This Republican is voting Barack Obama – Joe Biden
Go Obama! Everyone get out an dvote!
Posted by: Sharonklim | November 2, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
“Gallup has completed it pre-election polling and all indications are that enough voters support Sen. Barack Obama to make him the next president of the U.S.”
“The trend data clearly show Obama ending the campaign with an upward movement in support, with eight to 11 percentage point leads among likely voters in Gallup’s last four reports of data extending back to Oct. 28. Obama’s final leads among both registered voters and likely voters are the largest of the campaign…”
8 years of Republican power in the White House was enough!
Sleazy McCain campaign = Sleazy Bush/Cheney/Rove campaigns.
There was no change. Same old dirty politics from the Republicans.
Not the change anybody wanted.
Democratic landslide victory.
Posted by: pefros | November 3, 2008, 2:58 am 2:58 am