Rahmbo Pledges Bipartisan Approach
On "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" this morning, incoming White House chief of staff Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., responded to GOP gripes that his appointment flies in the face of President-elect Obama’s pledge to be bipartisan, civil and centrist.
"President Obama is very clear, as you look at his career, both in the state senate, U.S. Senate, and the campaign, that we have to govern in a bipartisan fashion," Emanuel said. "And if you look at the way his campaign is run and also the ideas, he has always said that we have to be bipartisan."
Emanuel continued: "The challenges are big enough that there’s going to be an ability for people of both parties, as well as independents, to contribute ideas to help meet the challenges on health care, energy, tax reform, education.
"So that is the tone. That is the policy. And that is exactly how we’re going to go forward."
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You Go Rahm Emanuel! Perfect choice for White House Chief of Staff. I think President-Elect Obama will have a fine group of advisors and staff that will help get our country back on its feet and keep it there…at least for the next 8 years!
Posted by: dlh | November 9, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
Well said>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Posted by: indp voter | November 9, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am
It’s funny to hear GOP’ers now whine about Emanuel. These Republicans were the same ones who frothed at the mouth 8 years ago after the Democrats were sent packing. Now that the balance of power has shifted significantly back to the Democrats, Republicans are all for “bipartisan” solutions to problems we face.
George “the decider” Bush: The worst president in the history of the United States.
Posted by: Deputy_Bob | November 9, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
Obama once said “I know what I can do and what I can’t do. I know what I know and what I don’t know”. He is smart enough to know that he needs a bulldog to help face down those ideologues among the republicans who only see things in black and white in a complex world. Good start I say.
Posted by: ola | November 9, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
Regardless who is in the white house there will be no agreement to how to fix the usa. It’s to late now. Our economy will collapse before years end and war is on the horizon. obama is useless.
Posted by: alan king | November 9, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
“Rhambo?” Why does the press have to commercialize every fact such that it panders to people who read tabloids? It’s such a pathetically obvious nick name too. Now I get to spend the next four years hearing about “Rhambo.” I’m already sick of it!
Posted by: Ax | November 9, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
I would think Ulysses S. Grant would have faired better in his presidency had he chosen his staff to complement his own abilities. So we should be encouraged that our president elect has chosen a chief of staff who at least appears different from himself.
Posted by: JS | November 9, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
GOP whiners should first look at themselves, how they behaved in the six years when they had the White House and both chambers of Congress. Instead of whining about what Emanuel MIGHT do, they should instead focus on two things. First they should have a long period of repentence–that’s a Biblical term in their own language–for what they’ve done to this country in a grossly non-bipartisan manner. Second, they should change their ways and THEY THEMSELVES should conduct business in a bipartisan way going forward instead of trying to fight Emanuel or derail Obama’s electoral mandate to save this country from their horrible mismanagement. Stop whining, GOP, start cooperating. I’m an Independent, and that’s how I see it.
Posted by: Justsaying Joe | November 9, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Democrats need to figure out what Emanuel really means. One out of five conservatives voted for Obama. Obama is not beholden to the dye-in-the-wool Democrats and their left wing loonies.
Posted by: Drew | November 9, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
I think Rham is an excellent choice for chief of staff.
Now that enough citizens (finally) became disgusted with the policies of the Bush administration and voted for change . . .
. . . change will come. It remains to be seen what, exactly, these changes bring about.
Perhaps the best part of the “Bush Legacy” will be the election of Obama, and the resulting changes.
Posted by: ghrog1 | November 9, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Each day I wait to see if another member of Obama’s Dream Team is announced. I know they are going slowly and carefully, but this is soooo exciting.
I am so encouraged by the balanced approach to choosing the team to put our country back on the right track.
Posted by: Shockolit | November 9, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
This talk of a bipartisan approach is all Sunday morning talk show blather. The Obama admistration will try to get through as much of its agenda as it can without relying on Republican support. The Republicans, meanwhile, will try to block as much of it as possible. The two sides will come together when it is in each ones own interest.
This is not rocket science, folks. This is conducting the nation’s business. And until somebody can come up with something better (all or nothing poker games?) this is the way it shall be.
Posted by: OBAMANATION [uh-bom-uh-NEY-shuhn] | November 9, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
The election is over. Stop your drum beating on both sides, only thing you’ll get is a sore chest. Bush failed in a large part because of all the hate and payback fostered but both parties and the media. We can and must agree to disagree on policy and platform. We must support the decisions that we cannot change instead of threats and stonewalling. Democrats are in control of Washington because our party failed us. We must move forward. The reason so many conservatives crossed over is they are tired of the stonewalling partisan politics. If Republicans had been more positive the Dem controlled Congress would have suffered defeat, instead they were able to shift the blame. We (I’m Republican) let that happen, now we have to eat their cake, do what we can to make America whole again and wait for the next election. They party that actually shows America change and an honest effort to bipartisanship twill next inherit Washington.
Posted by: Jimi | November 9, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Tagging Mr. Emanuel with the nick-name ‘Rahmbo’ is, at the very least, demeaning in context and intent unworthy of a professional news organization. Rather than using hyperbole to snag the attention of readers and viewers (as well as advertising dollars), I would like to suggest that all news organizations shift to a more respectful use of language when referencing all people.
Posted by: SFTed | November 9, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill was the mastermind behind NATO which destroyed so many union jobs. So much for Obama and his Union backpedaling
Posted by: Anita Yova | November 9, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Methinks that Mr. Tapper owes Mr. Emanual an apology for the “Rahmbo” headline. It’s time to put an end to the republican smears and name calling. The rhetoric of guys like Hannity, Limbaugh, Oreilly is so passe. America has moved on.
Posted by: Edward Baker | November 9, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
So we have come to and through an election of monumental prominence and there are some among us who are discouraged by the outcome in which we believe we were deceived by lack of choices, misrepresentations and expunges executed by party leadership, the media and others. The same media who hail this election outcome as a repudiation of much of our philosophy and even as a mandate for change of some kind or another. It did not start as an election of uniqueness, or as the beginning of being historically significant, but as one to decide when and how to end a war.
Bitter as it is to some, we should have reason for some optimism. But as long as it has been in time for those that believed they suffered from a failed presidency and others a poor performing congress, so must the winners now gift time for healing to those on the other side.
Failure to do so deepens the wound and virtually inhibits the healing and therefore is not an option. Give it some time and return when you decide but do decide to return.
Posted by: Bob | November 9, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
They’re already setting the message for their media toadies to push.
They’ll pass some far-left 80% tax on white people at 3AM, and the MSM flunkies will swoon at how “bi-partisan” it was.
Posted by: Concerned in OH | Nov 9, 2008 12:03:03 PM
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You are so right on!! Thought his platform was for “change”. Where is the change; sounds like his staff will be from all the former adms. and especially the Clinton’s. They were real good at “covering up and not remembering”.
Posted by: Lilly | November 9, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Funny…with bush it was all out HEALTHY opposition for the good of the land NOW sinse barry boy is in it’s bipartisanship…. you libs are a crack up…so..watch as the economy TANKS BIGTIME and all you obamatoads will be crying and moaning its all chimpys fault.
Posted by: Joe | November 9, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
This “new” Chief of Staff is a former Wall Street gazillionaire and is implicated in the mortgage scandal, too, by virtue of his service on the BOARD at Freddie Mac. My vote for Obama was wasted and I regret voting for him. I should have voted for Nader. Obama, unless he comes out with some DRAMATIC pronouncements “soon” appears destined to lead us down the same worn out path that was followed by the outgoing representatives of the capitalist leeches. No kidding: the appointments and associations thus far clearly indicate Obama that doesn’t have even a remote clue as to how to RE-STRUCTURE AND THUS REPAIR the U.S. economy.
Posted by: Voter's Remorse | November 9, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
I think the democrats should be able to pass the “reforms” they promised to the population who elected them. Whether that will be good for that population in the long run, that’s a different matter altogether. I tend to think that presidents, any president, politicians in general, can do little to make things better but they can do a whole lot of damage, lasting damage. This is a direct corollary of the law of unintended consequences.
Bush Republicans are in no position to complain. They themselves did not practice what they preached. In addition to financial expenses of 2 wars, Bush increased spending in Medicare drug coverage, which was entirely unnecessary. In addition to being fiscally irresponsible, with their demeanor and lack of tact Bush republicans pretty much fomented this revolution to the point where “history was made” by Obama’s election.
Posted by: albi | November 9, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
To be fair, I don’t think Jake’s “Rahmbo” comment is anything but an attempt to be overly-clever. I’m not really sure when it became “cute” in our culture to make fun of people’s names, but it seems we will have to put up with it for awhile longer.
Posted by: jock59801 | November 9, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
you are correct to say the bush republicans need to be quiet for now, and take a wait and see or supportive position.
the bush white house LOOTED AND PLUNDERED THIS COUNTRY FOR THEIR OWN ADVANCEMENT.
name one group of american’ the bush adm. can say they are better off because of bush being in office.
only the rich.
our national nightmare is almost over,
a new day has dawned.
Posted by: one planet, one people, please | November 9, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
“Rahmbo” is a nickname he’s had for a while. I find it comical that people are commenting on something they know do little about. He’s known for getting things done, and for his strongly centrist views. He was a brilliant pick. It’s curious to me that there are still right wing crazies out there who can’t see that the rest of our nation, republican and democrat alike, want to support our new president and actually get things done.
Posted by: Ken | November 9, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Rahmbo, or not Rahmbo? Can we please stop already? Sheesh!!!
In the interest of raising the level of discourse here on this thread, lets try to discuss things or more importance than that. Okay?
I would like to start with pointing out Rahm Emanuel reminds me of Jar Jar Binks from Star Wars chapters one through three.
Using the characters and creatures from the Star Wars series of films is how I kept track of the Clinton inner circle and cabinet. It is a great memory aid, and I have a sneaking suspicion it should work wonders with the Obama administration, as well.
Posted by: OBAMANATION [uh-bom-uh-NEY-shuhn] | November 9, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Joe,
what are you talking about?
Bush has already tanked the economy.
Posted by: one planet, one people, please | November 9, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
I read these comments as partisan. You signal for what you voted and not whom you voted… To progress in life is to not regress. Many of you are regressing to the point of silliness. Take a reality check then ask yourself are you here to help humanity or hurt humanity. If the latter comes to mind clearly you don’t have an American spirit pushing your agenda.
Posted by: gwilsing | November 9, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
I don’t really care much about what Emmanuel has none in the past. This isn’t his administration. Obama has chosen him because he believes he can help him carry out his vision. It will be Obama’s policies and Obama’s priorities. Rahm is supposed to be the watchdog who helps get things done. He does have that reputation.
Posted by: Annie | November 9, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
who should he have appointed for bipartisanship-Joe Lieberman?
Posted by: Gerry | November 9, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Sorry, Ken. But, I am not buying it. Though I am well aware that “Rahmbo” was a nickname that Mr. Emanuel has had for quite some time, I still do not think that it is appropriate to use it in a news headline. I too think that Rahm Emanuel is an excellent choice. So, lets all show a little respect by not using nicknames to refer to someone who will hold an extrememly important office. If we are going to move forward in the spirit of bipartisan brotherly love, then it is important for us to point out the subtle attempts at divisional propoganda that have become the daily fodder of the rightwing news outlets.
Posted by: Edward Baker | November 9, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
i believe that immanuel’s selection was a clear indication that this administration will not steer to far off long established policies in the middle east. for me that was reassuring and it put to rest the RUMOR that obama would favor extremists in that region. that appointment was a clear indication that our relationship with israel would not be compromised.
a mccain supporter who is wiling to listen/watch and wait before casting judgement.
Posted by: northernlights | November 9, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
I think the BO administration should make it a top priority to hold congressional hearings on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
I’m sure Pelosi, Reid, Rahm Emanuel, Obama, ACORN, Schumer, Dodd, Frank, Biden, Rangel, Clinton, Waters, Meeks, etc. are very eager to uncover the true culprits in the mortgage meltdown.
Posted by: Kool Aid | November 9, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
George, When are those in your “Round Table” going to acknowledge that health care and our energy policy (or lack of) play a huge part in dragging our economy into the dumpster? Health care cost are running my household budget right into the ground, up 65% in the last two years. My household electric
bill went up 10% just this year alone. All of this and the company I work for gives 2% max raises per year based on an annual review. How is it that people do not understand that tackling health care and energy will stimulate the economy by freeing up potentually hundreds of dollars per household? Think of the bennefit to business if health care and energy were top and front of an economic stimulas package. The old way of thinking has to go. It should have been gone at LEAST four years ago. We can not put this off any longer. Health care and energy need to be top and front of the economic stimulas package!
Posted by: Pat Pace | November 9, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
“Rahmbo” is a kick ass nickname, hardly insulting. I have a hunch the folks condemning use of the nickname are ultraconservative scaredee cats about to see what they have not been able to accomplish go down the toilet.
Posted by: Eric | November 9, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
“Bush has already tanked the economy.”
Response:
The Democrats in Congress tanked the economy with the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac mess.
Posted by: Michelle | November 9, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
How many times does George have to ask Rahm a question before he will aanswer it? I thought we were going to get an administration who answered questions straight from the hip instead of that political run around speak. yawn. If I donated hundreds of dollars and hours of my time to elect the same old politics of the past, I’m going to be very disappointed. Just answer the damn questions direct please and stop dancing. We hate that game.
Posted by: Rick Marcena | November 9, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill was the mastermind behind NATO which destroyed so many union jobs. So much for Obama and his Union backpedaling
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | November 9, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Obama promised me 1000 dollars a year from the government if he won the election.
I am here to collect on his promise to me and all the working people in the country he made this promise to.
Posted by: scandleous | November 9, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
I disagree with a democracry.
I wish only the Democrats ran everything. A one party system where the Political Party already decides who is going to win. We don’t need to bothered with voting any more since the Media did it for us. Now if only we can have a one party system so the Media don’t get in the middle any more.
Posted by: ObamaCRAT for life | November 9, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill was the mastermind behind NATO which destroyed so many union jobs. So much for Obama and his Union backpedaling
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | Nov 9, 2008 1:56:18 PM
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NATO: North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
How did this treaty destroy union jobs?
Posted by: ziadora | November 9, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
This great—- should be on comedy central!!! Rahm—- a bipartisan philosophy, Ha!!! Give me a break!
Posted by: roscoe02 | November 9, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
ziadora
I take it you voted for Obama. Obama preached that NATO destroyed Union Jobs to win votes in Union rich states like Pennsylvania and Ohio.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | November 9, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Rahm simply refuses to answer the question. That much is as clear as if he had said it aloud.
I suspect that the truth of the matter is that neither Obama nor Biden, nor Rahm has a detailed plan ready on exactly how to proceed and whether or not to postpone increased taxes for the rich (annual income > 250k).
You have to do fairly detailed calculations before you can predict the effect of a shift in the tax burden. In order to accurately predict this is to do the calculations (income, expenditures (cost of living, education, pension savings), tax), for every income segment (in $1000 increments) and for all household compositions (singles, married no-kids, family) and age groups and make sure that all middle income segments gain. Multiply with the number of people in each segment and you get the net effect on the tax revenue.
Chances are that a tax reduction for the middle class will cause a shortfall in tax income, which needs somehow needs to be compensated for.
Increasing taxes on the rich is one possible source of money, but a limited one (there are only so many millionares and if you overtax them then they will pack up and leave).
The remainder will have to be funded from other sources. Perhaps budget cuts (the military if possible), perhaps increased borrowing (although the aim is to achieve a fiscal balance).
And unlike previous Republican administrations, Obama will *not* be in a position to make good a shortfall in tax revenues per segment by an increase in GDP. The recession will make sure of that.
So I feel that exactly what will happen depends on the numbers rather than on ideas and slogans. As it should.
So, strange as it may seem, we will have to give them time to get their act together. Say 6 months or so.
Posted by: Golodh | November 9, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
“You Go Rahm Emanuel!” I love it. One fantastic thing about the Obama Presidency will be since President Bush made such a real huge mess of things it will be easy to see the changes as they occur; as they will indeed be … stark. Stark in comparison.
Wonder what the mad republicans will say as they see this. Can’t wait for Jan 20th, you can count on seeing President Obama in action on day one.
Posted by: Ranger phx | November 9, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Michelle said:
The Democrats in Congress tanked the economy with the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac mess.
Michelle, you (and all the other ignorant Republicans) ought to spend about 5 minutes studying the mortgage crisis: Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac do not originate mortgages, and never have. They buy them from the banks and other loan originators. The brokers and banks are the guys who made the bad loans, then dumped them onto FM/FM. And contrary to popular Republican idiot-think, the government did not force the greedy mortgage brokers to lend to anyone.
You know, it’s morons like you who are really to blame for the last 8 years – you’re the ones who elected the bozo who’s leaving Jan 20.
Posted by: oz | November 9, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
At least perhaps Rahm Emanuel can bring his three kids to work in the White House, where he will spend a LOT of time. Then the Emanuel kids and the Obama kids will have playmates in the White House.
Posted by: Shockolit | November 9, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Dee Dee- I think you’re referring to NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement.
Posted by: kat | November 9, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Rahm looks more innocent than before… He has no more sting in his eyes… Anybody noticed?
Posted by: jj | November 9, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
There is no unity and it will not happen. The Democrats spent 8 years bashing President Bush and obstructing policies so what makes them think Republicans will start embracing them? Hopefully the GOP will obstruct everything and make sure the economy tanks and take the unions with it.
Posted by: toby hill | November 9, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
We (Republicans) do not whine about Emanuel Rahm. Obama couldn’t have chose a better man for the job. Another Karl Rove. Former Director of Freddie Mac. Who tanked the mortage industry. Love it. Keep comin’ Democrats. Also strip Lieberman of his chairmanship and put on his place a loyal aparatchik like Meeks, Cohn, Frank or maybe Jesse Jackson Jr. himself.
Posted by: Frederik | November 9, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Pat Pace wrote: George, When are those in your “Round Table” going to acknowledge that health care and our energy policy (or lack of) play a huge part in dragging our economy into the dumpster? Health care cost are running my household budget right into the ground, up 65% in the last two years.” And I agree.
Wright now I am disabled and my saving are gone fighting for SSDI which I now get $1271 per month (this is above average) now I have a Medicare HMO and the copay for my medications is $156 or 12.3% of my income I make to much on SSDI to get Medicaide. Oh and there is a medigap comming where I have to pay for my medications – thats a laugh. Then it is only my 1 of 2 Heart medications and 1 pain medication. NOW YOU SEE WHY Health care is vital to be addressed.
Posted by: Ranger phx | November 9, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Oz, why is it that the so-called poor can afford to pay $3,000 for some rims but now can’t afford to feed their 6 children?
Posted by: toby hill | November 9, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Oz,
Clearly you have spent 5 minutes “studying” the mortgage crisis.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | November 9, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
toby hill
- from 2000 until Jan. 2007 the Republicans had control over the government,…along with Bush’s signing statements they basically did whatever they wanted. Dems were minority party.
I don’t expect Republicans to do anything positive to make the country better, they will look to win elections…like they always do,.. they aren’t really concerned with governing,…only winning.
It took a far right ‘Neo-con conservative republican’ administration to get us pretty much where we are………
Only seems fair to see if a ‘leftist progressive socialistic liberal’ administration can get us out the mess we find ourselves in today.
and, just in case republicans don’t get it yet, the country voted you out…. democracy at work,…..OK, I know you guys don’t really believe in democracy…but there might be a few of you left that do…..
Posted by: Blue | November 9, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Blue, enjoy Jimmy Carter The Sequel. It’s going to be a short 4 years.
Posted by: toby hill | November 9, 2008, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
toby hill
re: ‘It’s going to be a short 4 years. ‘
….not for you
re: Jimmy Carter
too bad no one listened to him !
“Tonight I want to have an unpleasant talk with you about a problem unprecedented in our history. With the exception of preventing war, this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes. The energy crisis has not yet overwhelmed us, but it will if we do not act quickly.
It is a problem we will not solve in the next few years, and it is likely to get progressively worse through the rest of this century.
We must not be selfish or timid if we hope to have a decent world for our children and grandchildren.
The oil and natural gas we rely on for 75 percent of our energy are running out. In spite of increased effort, domestic production has been dropping steadily at about six percent a year. Imports have doubled in the last five years. Our nation’s independence of economic and political action is becoming increasingly constrained. Unless profound changes are made to lower oil consumption, we now believe that early in the 1980s the world will be demanding more oil that it can produce.
The world now uses about 60 million barrels of oil a day and demand increases each year about 5 percent. This means that just to stay even we need the production of a new Texas every year, an Alaskan North Slope every nine months, or a new Saudi Arabia every three years. Obviously, this cannot continue.
Unless we act, we will spend more than $550 billion for imported oil by 1985 —more than $2,500 a year for every man, woman, and child in America. Along with that money we will continue losing American jobs and becoming increasingly vulnerable to supply interruptions.
we must start now to develop the new, unconventional sources of energy we will rely on in the next century.
Posted by: Blue | November 9, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
all you repubs….pull your investments out of the market and put into bank CDs and give to charity like biden gives to charity .1% (60 bucks on a 60K annual sal)do your taxes like Sen Rangel..take alittle here, take alittle there (wink wink) and lets all see the trickle up wealth effect the democrates are talking about??? THE FASTER THE LIB SHIP SINKS THE LEAST DAMAGE THEY CAN DO….
Posted by: joe | November 9, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Yeah Blue, instead the Bush family got in bed with the Saudi’s and any other oil-rich dictatorship – depending on which way the wind was blowing.
Posted by: pefros | November 9, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Dee Dee- I think you’re referring to NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement.
Posted by: kat | Nov 9, 2008 2:49:17 PM
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Exactly.
Posted by: ziadora | November 9, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
‘joe’
curious how ‘the right’ Repubs/Conservs
were ‘small government’ and ‘laissez faire economy’ until they needed the government to ‘intervene’ and save their buddies by bailing them out with tax payer money…
also curious how incredible sums of money are given away to business , but, somehow health care reform is out of the question as a ‘too costly government run’ intervention.
“Why is it that when the wealthy use their wealth and influence to lobby for laws that favor themselves, that’s to be expected – but when the rest of us propose laws that favor the great majority of Americans Dems are accused of “class warfare”?
We have been in a vicious cycle whereby the wealthy, with their money and power, exercise a disproportionate role over our political process.
The principal reason to reform American health care is simply that it would improve the quality of life for most Americans…
There is, however, another important reason for health care reform. It’s the same reason movement conservatives were so anxious to kill Clinton’s plan.
That plan’s success, said William Kristol, “would signal the rebirth of centralized welfare-state policy”
– by which he really meant that universal health care would give new life to the New Deal idea that society should help its less fortunate members. Indeed it would – and that’s a big argument in its favor…
Getting universal care should be the key domestic priority for modern liberals. Once they succeed there, they can turn to the broader, more difficult task of reining in American inequality.
Posted by: Blue | November 9, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Hey Blue,
Why don’t you give us a few examples of the kinds of government programs you admire?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | November 9, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
==Michelle, you (and all the other ignorant Republicans) ought to spend about 5 minutes studying the mortgage crisis: Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac do not originate mortgages, and never have.
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You are correct. 5 minutes is enough time to do the research to figure out that the dems are in this mess up to their eyeballs.
Fannie and Freddie didn’t make the loans but they “guaranteed” them by buying them from local banks. The local banks relaxed their credit standards and then sold the loans to the GSE’s with little or no risk.
The GSE’s then packaged them up, got AAA ratings from their buddies at the credit rating agencies and sold them to Wall Street banks. The Wall Street banks then sold them to individuals, mutual funds, hedge funds, etc. The Wall Street Banks used AIG to insure these products and make them appear even more “riskless” since AIG, Fannie, Freddie, Bear, Lehman etc were all “too big to fail”.
The republicans recognized that Fannie and Freddie posed a threat to the overall financial system and made numerous attempts to reform the GSE’s. The democrats in the congress (Frank, Dodd, Waters, Schumer, Meeks, etc) resisted every attempt by the republicans to rein them in.
Where did you do your research that showed that this was the republicans fault?
Posted by: Kool Aid | November 9, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
It was so important to regulate the mortgage and loan industries – and if the Republicans were so committed to it – why didn’t the Republicans do it when they had control of the White House, the Congress and the Senate for SIX YEARS?
Posted by: pefros | November 9, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Hemmoroid or toothache which is Emanuel? some DEMS say both!
Posted by: Mark | November 9, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Foggy:
here’s a few that should get yer knickers in a knot…
- Social Security
- Medi-cade/Medi-care
- VA
- Small Business Administration (SBA)
- State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP):
- Head Start
Posted by: Blue | November 9, 2008, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill was the mastermind behind NAFTA which destroyed so many union jobs. So much for Obama and his Union backpedaling or should we say Union backstabber.
Posted by: Dee Dee Lynn | November 9, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
They Rs did do something about it. They whined about it. Pathetic? You bet. And yet that was far more than the Ds.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | November 9, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
“Getting universal care should be the key domestic policy . . .”
Hillary Clinton’s plan was truly universal because like social security, everyone would pay into it and in turn be provided with health care. I’m not sure how to define Obama’s plan, which definitely falls short of the universal and has a number of options.
Posted by: kat | November 9, 2008, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
“Whining about it” is not enough when you have control of White House, Congress and Senate for 6 years.
Posted by: pefros | November 9, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Clinton’s plan wasn’t universal health care, it was universal health insurance. Health insurance is not the solution to the health care crisis, it is the problem. Neither Clinton nor Obama has presented a plan that deals with this problem.
The American people favor universal health care. There is only one realistic way of getting there. We must eliminate the health insurance industry as a first step. They are the greatest parasite on our society and are dragging us down. Second, we must establish scholarships and new schools to insure that any qualified high school grad who wants a career in medicine is able to get a first rate education, free of charge if necessary.
We all know what the solutions are. The question is can we shake up Washington to the point that they are forced to accept them?>
Posted by: Flash Override | November 9, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Obama had a 100 day plan to solve everything before being elected.
All i care about is that 1000 dollars a year for live he promised me if he was elected.
Posted by: scrambler | November 9, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Dee Dee Lynn,
I was going to take back alot that I said about Rahm, since it appears from this interview that he is willing to subordinate his views on trade agreements to Obama’s priorities, as he should.
Then I thought to myself, why is Steph even bringing up Columbia to begin with? Where did he come up with the idea of tying it to the stimulus package?
Given Emanuel’s backstabbing history, it wouldn’t surprise me if he told Steph to bring it up so he could have it floated as a trial balloon.
Can’t trust this guy.
Posted by: Flash Override | November 9, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Yes pefros. That is what I said.
Now contrast the whining with the well publicized statements from the Ds and the money that flowed from Fannie and Fredie to the Ds and the Friends of Angelo and the party affiliations of the board of Fannie and Freddie. You know, like your boy Rahm. Takes a willful suspension of disbelief to think that even if the Rs wanted to do anything about it that they could have.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | November 9, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
==why didn’t the Republicans do it when they had control of the White House, the Congress and the Senate for SIX YEARS?
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in 2005 the Senate Banking committee, which was controlled by the GOP, passed a bill (I think it was S190) along a party line vote. All 11 republicans on the committee voted to pass and all 9 dems opposed.
Since the bill to reform fannie and freddie and appoint a new regulator had no democrat support it was never brought to the floor for vote in the Senate. 60 votes would have been needed to pass the bill through the Senate and since there was no democrat support and the republicans didn’t have the 60 required votes the bill would have been filibustered.
Posted by: Kool Aid | November 9, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
I totally understand Foghorn that despite having full control of the White House, Congress and the Senate for 6 YEARS, the Republicans had either no desire or no competency to regulate the mortgage and loan industries. That much is perfectly clear.
Posted by: pefros | November 9, 2008, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Blue,
So you don’t require sound fiscal principles before you call a program a success.
Head Start has plenty of detractors.
SCHIP is miniscule.
The VA? Really? I’ll give you the GI Bill. But the VA? Seen some of their hospitals have you?
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | November 9, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
pefros you just can’t bring yourself to utter a word of criticism against the Ds can you? Keep that disbelief suspended my friend.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | November 9, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Foghorn not that it matters, but I generally don’t trust politicians at all, especially after what we’ve seen the past 8 years.
Posted by: pefros | November 9, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
That is one of the daunting tasks of the Obama/Biden administration – to attempt to repair the general lack of trust of politicians by the public, and a lack of trust in American political processes.
It’s a big task, but one of Obama’s long-held messages – the next years will begin to tell the tale.
Posted by: pefros | November 9, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Jake, thanks for including the video — an interesting interview. Clearly, we can all look forward to an aggressive, vigorous Administration dedicated to leading the way to changes to rebuild the nation.
Posted by: Constant Reader | November 9, 2008, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
pefros, now we are getting somewhere. Both sides suck. I think we have historically bad govt in this country. I wish Obama nothing but the best but I don’t know how we get real and meaningful change when we are ate up with special interests in Washington. And a whole bunch of em think that Obama owes them. Oh and we are beyond broke.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | November 9, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
The American people favor universal healthcare. There is only one way of getting there. We must eliminate the health insurance industry . . .
Canada’s system is based on both compulsory taxation and health insurance, like countries in the European Union. Most of us will be relieved with more affordable and accessible healthcare, whatever it’s called.
Posted by: kat | November 9, 2008, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Hey, the GOP needs to remember – - there was an ELECTION – and they LOST. SO_O_O_O, they don’t get to pick President Obama’s staff for him.
Posted by: guava boy | November 9, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
It appears that there are a lot of people in favor of a socialist Government… well I’m having a great life without big Daddy Government bottle feeding me… just get your sticky fingers out of my wallet……..Anybody ever read the Redbook by Mao Se Tung….. socialism here we come…..
Posted by: mediaTalkingPoints | November 9, 2008, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
wow ax,
you should just pack up and leave if that’s how you feel. No need for that kind of attitude here!
Posted by: memyselfandi | November 9, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Kat, so you really want a health care system like that one they have in Canada? I hope you are healthy and never need a doctor!!
Are you aware that the founder of the Canadian health care system, Claude Castonguay, recently stated: “We are proposing to give a greater role to the private sector so that people can exercise freedom of choice.” And he is now urging for the legalization of private health insurance. That’s because Canada’s health care system is broken. There is a report that several towns are starting to follow Norwalk, Ontario’s lead in holding lotteries where the prize is an appointment with the local doctor.
Things are so bad that the Canadian Parliament passed a low that requires that the emergency rooms see their patients within four hours. The catch is the clock doesn’t start running until you are actually in the waiting room. So frequently there are ambulances with patients waiting outside for hours. That means these ambulances are out of service for hours and unable to respond to new emergency calls.
Posted by: James Danley | November 9, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
I saw a lady being interviewed after the election, she said “now I do not have to worry about going to the doctor, my kids being educated properly, and filling my tank up with gas.” I wonder what she will say four years from now? I hope all of her problems will be solved but I have a feeling it will be more dependent on her decisions and not the government.
Posted by: ms1236 | November 9, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Kat,
The countries of the EU each have there own individual plans. Germany is different from France. Yes, there is health insurance for all, but in Germany for instance, they still use private insurance companies to administer the benefits. And not everybody gets the general health insurance plan from the State. It’s means tested and after a certain income level, you must purchase private insurance. But, you must still contribute a portion to the general insurance fund plus taxes plus social security. It ends up being quite a lot of money deducted form your monthly salary. There are no free lunches, even in Europe.
Posted by: Kat is wrong | November 9, 2008, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
James,
Whether or not Canada modifies its one payer medical care system (and every system in the world has problems) just ask any Canadian, ANY Canadian I repeat, if they would change their system for ours. For that matter, ask any person in the world if they would prefer our system. Of course, they would say no. This is because they understand that a society is only as healthy as the least are healthy. We, of course, don’t really have a system at all. Beyond that others in the Western world itself whose systems provide on average better health care to most of their citizens for less cost would tell you that at least everyone in their societies can get basic coverage. A society has to take responsibility for its health. Period. Call that socialism or whatever you want to call it, but it is a basic responsibility that we have forfeited by believing in the credo that the free market is God. Medicine in the modern world does not work in the free market. We do not live in the nineteenth century. Medical care in a society our size has to be a joint effort to be effective. It requires a decision that is made by the people who get sick-in other words the whole society itself.
Posted by: Bob Long | November 9, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Bob Long wrote: “…just ask any Canadian, ANY Canadian I repeat, if they would change their system for ours.”
If that is true, then why do so many Canadians cross the border and pay cash for medical care here in the US?
Posted by: James Danley | November 9, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Kat is Wrong @10:49 and James Danley@9:35
I was responding to someone who said universal healthcare was different from universal insurance. I simply brought up that insurance was included Canadian and European healthcare. It was a posting of semantics, nothing more and nothing less. Both of you then jumped at the opportunity to challenge healthcare outside the US. Please get a grip on the drama, gentlemen.
Posted by: kat | November 9, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Foggy:
re: “The VA? Really? I’ll give you the GI Bill. But the VA? Seen some of their hospitals have you?”
-actually, I have,.. my next door neighbor, an amazing sweet old guy was a VET who served WW2 in the South Pacific, needed help every now and then to get to the VA hospital……. and I would help him out.
He never spoke of his service much, but when he did, it was amazing what he went through.
Some care….. is better than NO care. Government talks a good story about taking care of the VETS….too bad their rhetoric doesn’t match reality on this issue.
Health care should not be a commodity..
I don’t have all the answers, maybe no one does, but, health care should be a right of all Americans…..
think about all the money that’s used for the recent ‘bailouts’, the one that’s coming for the car Cos, the money spent by both parties for campaigning and by the ’527′s, and on and on…
yet…… there’s no money for a solid universal health care plan
Posted by: Blue | November 10, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
James Danley and “Kat is Wrong” : “The American people favor universal healthcare. There is one way of getting there. We must eliminate health insurance.”
Not my words, but Mr. Flash Override’s.
Posted by: kat | November 10, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
Great!
Posted by: kevin | November 10, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
Kat, sorry that I mistook Flash Overide’s statement for yours. Thank’s for the clarification.
Posted by: James Danley | November 10, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am
Obama is our first affirmative action President, (see what happens people when you let people have jobs they havent earned)he never would of won this if he wasn’t half black, but now that he is almost president I’m happy and here is why?
The Messiah is about to part the waters and heal the planet. So who cares if we run out of Oil he is the MESIAH, he can turn water to Oil.
Also he will use his majic telaprompter to force are enimies to fall in line and become our friends.
I’m glad Obama is president, now I can be a lazy citizen and collect money from the people that actually work for it. YES Mesiah this is a great day in American history.
Posted by: jon | November 10, 2008, 2:09 am 2:09 am
I appreciate the idea of bipartisan approach to the bigger problems that America is facing now. I think only the collective action can over come the challenges; otherwise all the promised opportunities couldn’t be attained. Try to ride all kind of people on the bus as much as this can help to lift up the broken economy and foreign policy. A healthy debates should be entertained not a kind of rigid party politics.
Posted by: Getachew | November 10, 2008, 4:01 am 4:01 am
As a Democrat, I couldn’t be happier that the right is still mired in the kind of stuff I see in this thread.
What some of you fail to grasp is that the country’s had enough divisiveness, paranoia, distortions and distractions, e.g., they’ll “pass some 80% tax on white people at 3 AM.” If you really believe that, you need to get out more.
240,000 more people lost their jobs last month. People want solutions not paranoid rhetoric, conspiracy theories, and talk about who’s a “real American.” The Republican Party has been relying on feral rhetoric rather than solutions for the past several years. Unless they shift into forward gear, they’ll remain a rural, southern, and over-65 party.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 10, 2008, 6:22 am 6:22 am
“Obama is our first affirmative action President, (see what happens people when you let people have jobs they havent earned)he never would of won this if he wasn’t half black, but now that he is almost president I’m happy and here is why?”
Jon, your blatent racism is uncalled for and that kind of biggotry is what I call un-American. Obama went to Columbia, graduated from Harvard Law School, was the head of the Harvard Law Review, and was a US senator. You don’t get that far with affirmative action. If you don’t agree with a president’s policies that is one thing, but racism is unacceptable. Calling a person who has achieved so much though his intelligence despite, not because of, his color an affirmative action president is just ignorant. By the way, the majority of people who voted for him were white.
Posted by: tolerance2501 | November 10, 2008, 6:46 am 6:46 am
They will try the bipartisan approach until the first time it doesn’t serve their own interests. Then it’s back to Washington politics as usual. Happens every time.
Posted by: LongT | November 10, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
A pledge of bipartisanship is nothing more than window dressing for the masses.
Posted by: LongT | November 10, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Pledges of bipartisanship from any politician are nothing more than window dressing for the masses.
Posted by: LongT | November 10, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Brooklyn Democrat wrote: “The Republican Party has been relying on feral rhetoric rather than solutions for the past several years.”
That is a little like the pot calling the kettle black. The Democrats have used education as an election issue in every election since at least the 1950s. Every election we hear the same rhetoric about dilapidated school buildings and failing schools. Yet the majority of the large urban school districts have Democratic mayors, Democratic controlled city councils and often Democratic controlled state legislatures. A prime example is now President-elect Obama. All the time that he was in the Illinois State Senate and on the various boards, he and his colleagues poured millions of dollars into the Illinois school systems but the Democrats still used the issue during this campaign. That’s because the Democrats are really not interested in solving problems. They continually place the unions’ interests above those of the students.
Posted by: James Danley | November 10, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Morning, James -
Obama has consistently advocated merit pay for teachers and getting rid of teachers who aren’t hacking it. This has hardly endeared him to teachers unions.
There’s plenty of blame to go around for the dismal state of education in this country including parents, teachers, inequitable school funding, and nonsensical programs like “No Child Left Behind” which are teaching children to take tests rather than learn.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 10, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Brooklyn Democrat, my personal opinion is that we will never really have real solutions to real problems until we get term limits for Congress. The Representatives and Senators–on both sides of the aisle–are more interested in amassing their own power and getting reelected than they are in really finding solutions. All we seem to get are bandaid solutions, keeping the problems perennially as election issues.
Posted by: James Danley | November 10, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
I am like others here I think we need term limits. Whether republican or democrat having ANYONE in the same office for 20-30 years is stupid.
That amount of time does not allow for much change as times change and I think our design without term limits is to blame for some of our issues.
Most people who work for the public I think have good hearts and goodwill but over 20-30 yrs people get into routine and we need to adjust to the times.
Posted by: mrh | November 10, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
James -
For once, we agree! Gingrich promised term limits in his “Contract with America.” They were quickly forgotten. NYC voters limited the Mayor to two terms by referendum. The Mayor is now trying to overturn the referendum via the City Council. While I think he’s doing a pretty good job, rules should be rules.
Once they get there, it’s next to impossible to get them out.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 10, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Obama is on target. Choosing experienced people who know how to win, and who know how to avoid failure is great for us all.The amount of debries of uncertainty left by Bush adm requires quick responses to mend our economy, restore calmness to the market, failing companies, decaying infra structure, etc. Please stand with Obama.
Posted by: Achinike I. Nwinye | November 10, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
It’s almost ALWAYS been the Republican Neo-Cons that hamper progress in Congress. They use every partisan tactic in the book to stop legislative movement when the Democrats have the White House. For what ever reason they will push to build bombs and bullets to kill people but believe Health Care for millions of Americans is a waste of money. I heard a threat by the Republicans this morning on CNN about putting the breaks on Obama. Listen up, Hannity, Limbaugh and the Limbaugh Lemmings; Barack Obama was OVERWHELMINGLY ELECTED on a COMPLETE PLATFORM that promised change in our country. Changes that will bring respect from the rest of the world and envy by those that do not have our democracy. We removed as many Partisan Neo-Con Republicans as we could in 2006’ and a whole bunch more in 2008 and Americans will have NO PROBLEM smashing the rest of the Republican’s in congress in 2010 if Neo-Cons have the intention on playing partisan politics to block what American’s OVERWHELMINGLY voted for and what the Country needs!
Posted by: dan | November 10, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
It won’t matter how much effort is made to stay center for the Obama administration; the GOP will attack them at every opportunity because that is the Republican way. Never mind that the country needs unity like never before, our friends on the other side of the aisle will embrace obstructionist tactics on productive legislation in order to keep Congress and the president from accomplishing anything remotely like actual progress.
Posted by: DaveM | November 10, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
dan: 53 % IS HARDLY AN “{OVERWHELMING}” MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF AMERICANS – WHO DIDN’T VOTE FOR OBAMA, OR SOME OF THE OTHER DEMS THAT WERE ELECTED (BY A SMALL MARGIN !) ? GUESS WHAT ? THIS IS OUR COUNTRY TOO , AND WE’RE NOT GOING ANY WHERE , SO YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT YOU FANTASY OF A TOTAL DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS (No Party should have total control ; be it Rep., or Dem.) ! AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE … WE TAX PAYERS , WHO ARE FOOTING THE BILL ON ALL THESE BAIL-OUTS AND OUTDATED ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS — WILL FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS AND WHAT WE BELIEVE CONGRESS SHOULD BE DOING ON OUR BEHALF … WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS ! I VOTED FOR MCCAIN – HE DIDN’T WIN , I’VE MOVED ON. I’LL SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA AS LONG AS HE’S WILLING TO LEAD ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE , NOT JUST THE DEMOCRATS.
Posted by: Isabella | November 10, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Dan, in our system of government, the losing party does not just give up their ideology and convictions and just kowtow to the victors. The Republican senators and Republican representatives still have constituents who expect them to represent their ideology. So if a bill is being considered that goes against that ideology and/or convictions, yes they will obstruct with every tool available. This is nothing new. The Democrats have used this quite effectively when they were in the minority. That is what the minority party does.
Posted by: James Danley | November 10, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
“President-elect Barack Obama comes away from Election Day with a 68% “favorable rating,” the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll shows.”
Posted by: pefros | November 10, 2008, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Emanuel can pledge all the bipartisanship he wants, but you would have to be an idiot to think he actually believes it. Obama, Emanuel and the rest of the leftist cronies in his cabinet will be anything but bipartisan.
Posted by: Jeff | November 10, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Bipartisanship has now become just another overused buzz word. Our government should be polarized and politicized by idealology at least. Many of us prefer it that way because, if you’ll notice, anytime congress gets things “done” they only succeed in screwing things up.
Posted by: Libricrat | November 11, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
George, please do not invite Representative Emanuel back to This Week unless he first agrees to answer your questions. I don’t think he answered a single one. I was so frustrated, I couldn’t even watch anymore. Please spare us an future “non-answers.”
Posted by: jjsmith | November 11, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
obama bipartisan? Odds are better with achieving peace in the middle east.
Posted by: USA-No1 | November 11, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Emanuel preaching bipartisanship is like Bill Clinton preaching faithfulness in a relationship. Obama and his leftist illuminati cabinet will say one thing and do another.
Posted by: Jeff | November 11, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm