Report: Obama Didn’t Have as Many Small Donors as Was Hyped
The Campaign Finance Institute issued a "Reality Check" report that demolishes the myth that President-elect Obama was largely funded by small donors.
In reality, says the non-partisan group, the percentage of small donors who gave to the Obama campaign — 26 percent – is roughly the same as the percentage of small donors who contributed to President Bush’s reelection in 2004, 25 percent.
"It turns out that Barack Obama’s donors may not have been quite as different as we had thought," says the Institute’s study. "Throughout the election season, this organization and others have been reporting that Obama received about half of his discrete contributions in amounts of $200 or less. The Campaign Finance Institute (CFI) noted in past releases that donations are not the same as donors, since many people give more than once. After a more thorough analysis of data from the Federal Election Commission (FEC), it has become clear that repeaters and large donors were even more important for Obama than we or other analysts had fully appreciated."
"The myth is that money from small donors dominated Barack Obama’s finances," said CFI’s executive director Michael J. Malbin. "The reality of Obama’s fundraising was impressive, but the reality does not match the myth."
Only 26 percent of PEBO’s money through August 31 (and 24 percent of his funds through October 15) came from donors whose total contributions aggregated to $200 or less, the Institute says.
The change in record-keeping comes after the Institute merged the donor records, combining multiple records, which updated the data base, revealing that 580,000 different people ultimately gave more than $200 so they were no longer considered "small donors."
PEBO ultimately received about 80 percent more money from large donors (giving more than $1,000) than from small donors — 47 percent of his total cash, compared with 56 percent for Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., in 2004, and 60 percent for both Bush and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
The Institute estimates that through the end of August, PEBO raised $90 million with the help of bundlers, $120 million or so from other large donors, and $119 million from small donors. "The comparison should make one think twice before describing small donors as the financial engine of the Obama campaign," the Institute concludes.
Campaign spox Ben LaBolt tells ABC News, "Our campaign was fueled by contributions from over 3.95 million Americans, and we didn’t accept a dime from PACs or Washington lobbyists. 91 percent of our contributions were in amounts of $100 or less, and while the total contributions from donors who gave a small amount to the campaign each month over the course of two years surpassed $200 in certain cases, there’s no doubt that small dollar contributors played a critical and unprecedented role in Barack Obama’s victory."
What this comes down to is an assertion from the Obama folks that the Institute’s calculations are based on an old total number of donors to the campaign –- nearly 3 million — instead of the 3.95 million Americans who donated to the campaign.
The Obama team rejects the fundamental hypothesis of the study. If you were a donor who saved up to donate $20 to the campaign every couple months over the course of two years, an aide says, and all of those contributions eventually added up to more than $200, that doesn’t mean you’re not a small dollar donor.
– jpt

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Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am
One does have to ask the question, since he refused the public funding, WHY LIE about these donors?
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Who cares? The important thing is that he ran a brilliant campaign, won big, and will soon get us rid of dull W.
Posted by: Interested Observer | November 25, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Jake, you’re tied up with semantics and statistics. PEBO received more than one-third of his campaign funds from small donors — that’s impressive. His small donor pool, although not much larger than Bush’s, but PEBO’s pool gave more. So if you look at one statistic, he was not “largely funded” by small donors, but it is clear that they had a bigger role than in the past.
Posted by: norms | November 25, 2008, 9:37 am 9:37 am
I think it’s misleading to set the cutoff at $200 and claim that anyone above that is not a “small donor”. I had NEVER contributed to a political campaign before but I contributed several times, over the internet, to the Obama campaign. My contributions were usually in $20-30 increments. I was surprised to see, at the end of the campaign, that my contributions added up to almost $300. According to this report, I’m not a “small donor”. (Maybe I’m some kind of “fat cat”?) I would certainly consider myself a small donor, however, and I’m sure there are many more with similar stories to mine.
Posted by: Lisa | November 25, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Ugh. So basically, this is a distinction without a difference. The percentage was similar to Bush, but the overall numbers were still larger than anything any of us have ever seen before. Which goes against NOTHING that was ever said.
And seriously, this PEBO stuff is enough for me to stop reading the blog. I know that matters not one bit to Jake or anyone else, but for God’s sake, you’re not in such a hurry that typing “Obama” is going to throw you off deadline. It’s too cute by half.
Posted by: lettuce | November 25, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
I find this article a little misleading for two reasons:
1. It discounts the fact that Senator Obama would have never survived the Democratic Primary without small donations from individual supporters.
Senator Clinton had a lock on the big money donors, and without small donors, Senator Obama could have never ben competitive.
It is unfair to quote stastistics from AFTER the primaries were over and the big money naturally flowed to the Democratic Nominee.
2. It discounts the fact the people like me who have NEVER contributed to a political campaign entered the process for the first time and made multiple (small)donations. Just because I count as “one donor”, doesn’t change the fact that EVERYTIME I gave (more than 10 times) is one more than I EVER gave before.
Posted by: Nashville_fan | November 25, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
norm,
Your missing the entire point here. The whole push by his campaign about small donors was the “idea” that he was not going to be beholden to “payback” to large donors.
Obviously that was just smoke and mirrors!
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
“It is unfair to quote stastistics from AFTER the primaries were over and the big money naturally flowed to the Democratic Nominee.”
Why is it unfair, if the candiadte is constantly bringing the point up at virtually every rally?
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am
Dear “Sour Grapes” Brigade led by Mike C:
Senator Obama raised more than $100 million dollars in one month.
No amount of “reanalyzing” is gonna change that.
You can classify the donors any way you want, but the truth is President Elect Obama (I agree, the PEBO thing is low rent) created a fundraising juggernaut like has never been seen before.
Game. Set. Match.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
Posted by: Nashville_fan | November 25, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
Okay Mike C.
It was fair to bring it up.
Misleading but fair.
Feel better now?
Posted by: Nashville_fan | November 25, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
The pennies begin to drop.
Conservative blogs began reporting prior to the election about illegal contributions made because the Obama campaign failed to have the most basic security precautions in place for matching donors to credit cards for online transactions.
Posted by: Bridget | November 25, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
This is poppycock, Jake.
One of the virtues of having a large pool small donors is that you can go back to them repeatedly for more money over a long campaign; this feature of Obama’s donor pool was commonly discussed by the campaign. Obviously, if the strategy of soliciting repeat donations works, you will convert many of them from small donors (less than $200) to medium-sized donors ($200-$500). That doesn’t make the donors patricians, and it doesn’t convert the fact that many Obama supporters started with modest donations into a “myth.”
Posted by: southpaw | November 25, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
I’m a graduate student that had never donated to a political campaign before, but was giving a donation every month to Obama’s campaign. Apparently if you add it up since I gave more than 200 (barely) I am not a small donor anymore. This is just semantics, especially in a day and age when 200 does not go as far as it once used to. By the way is there a way to go and look at the list? It would be kind of cool to see my name there :)
Posted by: Ordermonger | November 25, 2008, 9:59 am 9:59 am
LOL,…people…peole…all this is saying is what most people knew, unless of course you bought into the propoganda.
His campaign was no more funded by the small contributors than Bush was in 2004.
He did however do a much much better job than previous campaigns getting that “mid-range” group from 200 to 1000 dollars.
He should be pounding his chest over what he did from the aspect of raised monies. Just be honest about the sources, why lie?
Your right…he won….so why lie?
In the bigger picture, the country does need to look at is some mechanism of limiting campaign spending however.
Obama took almost as much money as Bush/Kerry combined. When we are spending half a billion dollars to win the presidency, there is need for CHANGE all right.
I thought having 2 candiates spending near 500 million was insane in ’04!
Since this study only included post convention numbers, its hard to tell exactly how much this election did cost overall. Im sure someone can do a little net searching and come up with the number.
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 10:03 am 10:03 am
I think the $200 limit is somewhat artificial. The cuttoff that really matters is the legal limit of $2300 for individual contributions. What is interesting is that Obama raised $239M, evidently, from individual contributions (both “large” and “small”), and another $90M from people who bundled contributions (“fundraisers”). I think that is pretty impressive. Try reanalyzing that…
Posted by: w_roos | November 25, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Rather then suggest that the campaign’s assertion that they received donations from predominantly small donors, Id suggest it is misleading to recategorize small donors to larger donors by amalgamating their smaller donations. Smaller donors cannot afford to give large lump sum donations and thus they give smaller increments over time. They are still small donors! Funny how folks like to nit pick over things like this ..nothing better to do now that the campaign has ended??
Posted by: Dee | November 25, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
One would have to be very naive to believe that all that money came from small donors.
Posted by: JULIE | November 25, 2008, 10:07 am 10:07 am
The true will get out soon. This campaign hype was based in the small donors and change. Obama is bringing the same insiders, first with Daschle he and his wife are lobbyist and before he was a full time insider in DC, you add to that the whole Clinton troop, Richardson (and his poor record as Energy Secretary), all those people are the same ones Obama campaign criticized as the “past and old Washington.” Now the big donors were big corporations in infrastructure, health, Wall Street, Hedge Funds, Private Equity companies, Media and Entertainment, Hollywood stars, and Unions. All of them poured millions of dollars to the Obama campaign and all will want a piece of the pie!
For example Citi just got a sweet deal, sure Richard Parson’s and Rubin who are in the Obama economic transition team are members of the Citi Board!
CHANGE WE CAN’T BELIEVE IN
LOL
Posted by: Paul | November 25, 2008, 10:08 am 10:08 am
So, because I gave in increments of $20.00 to $50.00 multiple times over a period of many months, I am not considered a small donor? That’s BS.
Posted by: Millie | November 25, 2008, 10:11 am 10:11 am
There is nothing misleading about this report, which finally shows how extremely misleading the Obama campaign was, and still is, about financing. They would have you believe that almost all the massive amount of money they raised to buy the presidency came from “small donors” They wanted voters to believe that just about everyone they bumped into in the elevator was contributing to Obama. It was not ever true, and now they are exposed as the liars they have always been. These numbers have been around for months, but yet again, the main stream media was so busy kissing up to Obama, that they failed the people of the USA.
Of course, the true Obama followers will never believe that their idol has feet of clay.
As for PEBO, if Obama wasn’t so anxious to stand behind fake signs that he thinks give him prestige – Office of the President-Elect, LOL!, – it wouldn’t be so funny.
Posted by: Keith | November 25, 2008, 10:12 am 10:12 am
“Dear “Sour Grapes” Brigade led by Mike C:
Senator Obama raised more than $100 million dollars in one month.
No amount of “reanalyzing” is gonna change that.”
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Not looking to change that, I AM looking for that other CHANGE though. 100 million in a month … And you dont think that the those who gave the bigger chunks of that 100M are going to be looking for something in the coming months?
Please…The whole point of claiming what he did during the campaign was to make the public believe he was not being funded by the usual “Machine”. I thin it it is unfortunate that this data is not broken down in crements above the 1K mark.
It would be interesting to see the size of donations from single sources for ALL the candidates. That is where true transparency comes in!
That way we ALL know how elected officials from all political parties are being funded.
It is no secret I am not a supporter of Obama, but I would support something along these lines if he proposed it!
This would be real CHANGE!
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 10:13 am 10:13 am
You’re a bit late Jake, I saw this same story many months ago…you know while the MSM was still ignoring facts…I even put it in your blog, you ignored the bots denied…so now that the election is over, it’s true?!
Posted by: samhiguchi | November 25, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Still another “Monday Morning Quarterback” story that is too little, too late. While the media went bananas over the THOUSDANDS spent by the RNC for clothing Sarah Palin DURING the campaign, the MILLIONS raised and spent by the Obama campaign went unresearched until AFTER the campaign. And there has not even been a full vetting of the internet fundraising for potential foreign contributions (which is illegal in itself)or other violations of law.
The only possible reasons for doing these stories now are to either (a)cover you backsides for the bias during the campaign, or (b) expose criminal activity during the campaign, since the statue of limitations is still potentially open. Other than that, this kind of reporting is a total waste of time, since the election outcome is already decided.
Posted by: MNResident | November 25, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
So, because I gave in increments of $20.00 to $50.00 multiple times over a period of many months, I am not considered a small donor? That’s BS.
Millie,
Look at the actual table shown on the page the link at the top of the story takes you to. It breaks it out in 3 steps. 1000
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
I was a small contributor who donated $25 or #30 at a time over a year and a half totalling $225. I am not a large donor and it is stupid to characterize me as one. The entire premise for that study is bogus. Why does it bother the Repubs so much that Obama was elected by every group in this country with a fully-functional brain.
Posted by: Richard J. Lawson | November 25, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
“We know less about people who stayed at $200 or below because $201 is the trigger for FEC disclosure. ”
This is the key sentence about the $200 mark that Jake should have included in his story above.
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Who cares about his donations, what you all should be caring about is how much more Bush and Paulson is going to rob from us Taxpayers before they leave office,And how many more of their rich ceo friends there going to bail out and fatten their bank accounts with our tax dollars. thats What you should be caring about!
Posted by: ANGIE | November 25, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
When the fog finally clears will anything Obama did or said during the campaign turn out to be true? Certainly doesn’t look that way.
Posted by: howwouldiknow | November 25, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am
To Keith and Mike C:
Unless you can provide a specific example, please stop saying the Obama campaign “lied” about having small donors, because that is simply not true.
And regardless of HOW the money was raised, by small donors or big donors, it was raised LEGALLY and used WISELY.
If you don’t like it, change the law. but to implay that Senator Obama did something improper is just plain wrong. And mean sprited. And unfounded.
Nobody said the majority of DONORS was small. The average DONATION was small.
You’ve got one candidate, John McCain, whose campaign was run by a lobbyist who was paid millions by Fannie/Freddie for the sole purpose of providing ACCESS to John McCain.
And you wanna tell me that it is Senator Obama who is being dishonest?
Please.
Posted by: Nashville_fan | November 25, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Please, you are looking for something you hope would put Obama in a bad light? Sorry, after 8 yrs. of Bush, Obama is looking better and better. But keep digging you might just end up making something up because you can’t find anything! LOL
Posted by: IVA | November 25, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
“We know less about people who stayed at $200 or below because $201 is the trigger for FEC disclosure. ”
“This is the key sentence about the $200 mark that Jake should have included in his story above.”
It ties into the story about the Obama campaign’s failure to match credit cards to donors in online transactions. People could and did donate multiple times using fake names and addresses. The McCain campaign website rejected donations from credit cards that did not match the donor name and address. The Obama campaign accepted them.
Posted by: Bridget | November 25, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
This is a very misleading article. I gave $25-$50 at a time plus purchased T-Shirts which counted as a donation. In all I donated around $700 and I certainly consider myself a small donor who gave small amounts over a many months.
Posted by: Liz in Texas | November 25, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Isn’t it all in the cherry picking? The CFI analysis also states “that an unusually high (49%) of Obama’s funds came in discrete contributions of $200 or less.”
Posted by: kat | November 25, 2008, 10:35 am 10:35 am
OH come on Jake, this is rather misleading by itself, isn’t it? The whole point to Obama’s campaign was that he had a pool of small donors who would eventually mature to big donors because they keep giving. Usually, and this is a big point so don’t dismiss it, when his campaign referred to the number of small donors, they did so in a month-by-month basis. So if somebody was a part of the monthly small donor list that maybe made up for 50% of his contribution, it doesn’t necessarily mean that person would be part of such list when the whole 12-months or 4-months is analyzed together. And the Obama campaign always reported their numbers month-by-month, as is the requirement by law. I would very much like Mike_C to a particular statement made by the campaign that turned out to be a Myth that has been pointed. And because I would like to do a myth busting of my own, consider this:
The month of March: Campaign claims the average donation was $96, with 442,000 contributors. Does the report claim to spot a lie in such statements? Obviously the small donor percentage for that month would have to be a lot more than 26% to make the average $86. However, one has to assume that if somebody was giving as early as March, that somebody is likely to give again at the late stages but somebody’s total is likely to exceed 200 by the time the whole thing is done.
Frankly, I think this claim is more of an insult (and at the same time reassuring) to his donors than a debunker of a campaign myth. It proves that their small donations were indeed big; it also says they were liars for counting themselves as small donors… they are no better than money bundlers.
just what I think.
disclaimer: I didn’t donate.
Posted by: Question | November 25, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
“In reality, says the non-partisan group, the percentage of small donors who gave to the Obama campaign — 26 percent — is roughly the same as the percentage of small donors who contributed to President Bush’s reelection in 2004, 25 percent.”
Why isn’t there a real number here? 26% of what vs. 25% of what? The percentages are not meaningful….
Posted by: mindy | November 25, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
So is the real historical aspect of Obama’s fundraising the fact that he raised such obscene amounts of cash from fewer donors, not a massive pool?
Posted by: matt | November 25, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
My $225 over 6 months I am considered large donor. This article is waste and we are dumber for it.
Posted by: jc | November 25, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
Given enough time, some Obama nut jobs will understand that he is a liar. He has back pedaled on jacking up taxes on the richest and he’s even back pedaled on Iraq. The only thing he has not changed is his lie that he didn’t know Wright is such an a##. Does anyone know that up until election day Obama’s website says he believes that the fed. govt. should be pay-as-you-go? Obama is a politician…just a big liar. Got news for everyone. He isn’t the Messiah and he will prove that he has the integrity of a televangelist!
Posted by: JoseCanseco | November 25, 2008, 10:50 am 10:50 am
I live on a pension…a small one…and over the course of the entire campaign I gave something like $500 or more. I gave 10 here and 5 there and ordered some things and then get p##### about something Hillary or McCain said and gave another $20….
I AM a small donor and I had only given $25 total to other campaigns. This article tries to make a big something into a little nothing.
Posted by: Southern IL | November 25, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
I gave $100 to Obama twice, so that makes me a “large” donor? I don’t think so..
Posted by: JR | November 25, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
ABC you helped as much as any of the press coverage to elect Obama. Please ask Obama to give George Stephanopolus a job. Everyone should read “Audicity of Hope” and you will see who we really elected. We will President Bush and all you bashers will to before this is all over.
Posted by: Janice | November 25, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Another thing, small donors become big donors if they give more than $200?
You are kidding me right?
This is ridiculous….Barack has an army of small donors who gave a little each month to help him. To consider anyone that gives over $200 a LARGE donor is stupid…
But I will try and call up Chicago and demand my ambassadorship now that I am such a large donor.
Barack’s way worked and there are folks still trying to prove that it didn’t. Good luck with that…off to pack now for my appointment.
Posted by: Southern IL | November 25, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
the term small donor refers to the fact that if your contribution is under $201 dollars, that specfic donation does not have to be reported to the FEC.
To eveyone who is whining about the numbers and facts, for crying out loud, click the link and see the full article that Tapper is refering to!
Do something for yourself!
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
So the lobbyists bought another election
in small increments and we are already seeing Obama et al paying them off. So what else is new in politics? I didn’t give nor did I vote for either candidate..why waste energy on the same old political crooks. Is democracy dead? Who knows.
Posted by: jeanned'arc | November 25, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
I ended up giving a total of $4,300 (the maximum allowable) to Obama but I did it via donations between $50-200 from January through October. Many of my friends did the same thing…they gave what they could when they could. Seems kind of silly to clasify us as “big” donors.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 25, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
For those of you bemoaning the fact that your numerous donations totaled over $200 over an extended period of time…
The perception the Obama campaign peddled was that he was being funded by “Mom and Pop donations of $100 or less” meaning millions of people making small donations. This helped perpetuate the bandwagon effect that a majority of the people were for Obama, thus to be part of the “in” crowd (which is so very important to way too many Americans), you must vote for Obama. This scenario loses its lustre when the reality is that many of his millions were coming from the same Mom and Pops donating over and over (well over the $100 purported by his campaign).
Does this matter? No more so than the media’s pushing of the “inevitability factor” that the support for Obama was so strong that nothing (except racism) could stop him.
The results were seen at the ballot box with some people voting for Obama simply because they thought it was a done deal and they wanted to be able to say that they voted for the first African-American president.
Of course, I’m more interested in the donors who gave under $200 which don’t have to be reported. We know that one such donor was Obama’s aunt living illegally in this country – who by law can’t make a donation to any campaign, but somehow did so numerous times without being caught doing so.
Posted by: marylou | November 25, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
I have to laugh at all the commenters who gave hundreds or thousands of $s but deny they were “big” donors because they did it in multiple transactions.
In the world of McCain-Feingold and campaign finance “reform” if you gave the max or close to it, you’re a big donor by legal definition. Deal with it.
Now, the allowed individual amounts are so small that the REALLY big guys, the ones who expect and get considerations from the politicians, are the bundlers and the ones who sponsor fundraising events.
As some have posted, the fact that the Obama campaign turned off the security systems is a bigger story, but the true story is that campaign finance reform and McCain-Feingold are utter failures and need to be eliminated, forthwith. If someone can come up with a workable plan to take the big money out of elections, I’m all ears, but a bad system (McCain-Feingold, ahh, the irony) is worse than nothing at all.
imho there really is no answer–as long as government is so big and so intrusive and throws around so much money, power and perks, the money will find a way around any barrier we try to erect. But, I’m willing to listen to any good ideas…
Posted by: Marty | November 25, 2008, 11:22 am 11:22 am
“Barack’s way worked and there are folks still trying to prove that it didn’t. Good luck with that…off to pack now for my appointment.”
Noone is trying to say it didn’t work. I think it was a brilliant strategy. In the end, he did raise more money than anyone in the history of American Politics.
as we look to the future though, will the next election show us the first biliion dollar President ?
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
it seems the obamaphiles really can’t read ,, nor will they have him defiled with the truth.
Obama lied about his donation numbers and donation amounts.
If you go to the article, you’ll see that he go more money fromm the really big donors than anyone else…
and that he the same small donors a bush
(his twin)
face the fact..obama conned his supporters,, stop saying “do it again, barack”
Posted by: jummba | November 25, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Like others, I gave a number of small donations over time which added up to about $400. So suddenly I am a big donor? Get real. The fundraising worked. The election was an electoral landslide, and the societal/political pendulum in this country is swinging back to center from far right.
Posted by: Neo-ConsAreHatefulHypocrites | November 25, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
You folks have got at least another 4 years to whine, so you might wanna pace yourselves! :)
Posted by: Nashville_fan | November 25, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
One would have to be very naive to believe that all that money came from small donors.
Posted by: JULIE | Nov 25, 2008 10:07:47 AM
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No you don’t! I gave $5.00 each of the 3 times I gave. And LOOK at how many people voted for him. It is not hard to beleive that he had many, many small donors. What we have to keep in mind is: that of whatever we hear,or read, the person presenting the information has to pay their bill too!
Posted by: fempharoh08 | November 25, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
What’s the big fuss? Why is this group, and ABC, handing this misleading headline to Rush and the Rabid Right?
Here is what should be the beginning and end of this “story:”
“If you were a donor who saved up to donate $20 to the campaign every couple months over the course of two years, an aide says, and all of those contributions eventually added up to more than $200, that doesn’t mean you’re not a small dollar donor.
Perhaps a less exciting but more accurate headline would have been:
“Many of Obama’s Small Donors Were Committed Enough to Give More than Once”
Posted by: bco | November 25, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
CFI Analysis of Presidential Candidates’ Donor Reports
REALITY CHECK: Obama Received About the Same Percentage from Small Donors in 2008 as Bush in 2004
Obama also raised 80% more from large donors than small, outstripping all rivals and predecessors
It turns out that Barack Obama’s donors may not have been quite as different as we had thought. Throughout the election season, this organization and others have been reporting that Obama received about half of his discrete contributions in amounts of $200 or less. The Campaign Finance Institute (CFI) noted in past releases that donations are not the same as donors, since many people give more than once. After a more thorough analysis of data from the Federal Election Commission (FEC), it has become clear that repeaters and large donors were even more important for Obama than we or other analysts had fully appreciated.
“The myth is that money from small donors dominated Barack Obama’s finances,” said CFI’s executive director Michael J. Malbin. “The reality of Obama’s fundraising was impressive, but the reality does not match the myth.”
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
how about the actual article itself….
REALITY CHECK: Obama Received About the Same Percentage from Small Donors in 2008 as Bush in 2004
Obama also raised 80% more from large donors than small, outstripping all rivals and predecessors
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
“but the true story is that campaign finance reform and McCain-Feingold are utter failures and need to be eliminated, forthwith.’
That’s a big part of it, but the WHOLE story is that Obama reneged on his promise to accept public financing. This about-face was papered over in part by the propagation of the Myth of the Small Donor. Couple this with the fact that the campaign turned off basic internet credit card security measures, and accepted many donations from untraceable prepaid credit cards, and you have a big problem with the future of clean campaign finance.
Posted by: Bridget | November 25, 2008, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
OK, here’s my last try on this one:
If a very low-income person got inspired enough to cobble together a twenty dollar donation, and then repeated this once every few weeks, it would have eventually tripped the $201 dollar threshold.
As soon as that happened, that small donor instantly became one of the Large Donors that so many of you are now talking about.
So we can pretty much ignore all of the posts that rant about, or even mention, Obama’s “Large Donors.”
Maybe we could call them something else, like “Repeat Small Donors.”
Because it is ridiculous to use the same name for these donors that we use for, say, a Big Lobbying Firm.
Posted by: bco | November 25, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
The hypothetical of the poor person donating 20 bucks a month for a year probably does not account for much of his donations. Otherwise they would have pushed the data on this one.
This is just another sign of the snowjob.
Posted by: angry black democrat | November 25, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
I am shocked..
Posted by: Now the media tells us | November 25, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
This report is nothing but a piece of crap. I donated $15, $20, $50 amounts because I cannot afford large donations. The fact that some fool decided to add all my donations over the 2 year period of Baracks campaign does not make me a rich donor. Now you can choose to deny the fact that Obama had more donors (small donors) than any presidential candidate ever, but that does not alter any truth of the matter. Use any theories you may wish to use, in order to try to disprove the fact that he managed to raise a never seen before army of small donors, the truth remains that he did. If I were you, I would be trying learn from his machinery rather than waste my time trying to find ways to disprove what he achieved. Bush has not had any small donor base close to Obama’s multitudes of donors.
Posted by: Kensing James | November 25, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
bco: Amen. You explained that very, very well.
I donated $25-$30 each month. I’m not sure how many months I did this but I’m sure it totaled up to more than $200 so I am not considered a small donor, even though sometimes I had to scrape to get that money.
Posted by: Kitty Wilberforce | November 25, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
bco,
You act like these terms were just invented. They have been there for a while!
With all the economic issues going on now, the real question that should be in everyone’s head is should we be spending over a billion dollars to elect a president?
We complain about CEO pay and Oil company profits. are we really willing to see Presidential races clims to well over a billion dollars ?
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
yawn. yes we did. yawn
hmmmm. Wondering what will I wear to the inaugural ball.
zzzzz.
Posted by: Omentum | November 25, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Right Wing crybabies and complainers: turn off Hannity and go back to work. Your guy lost. Get over it.
Posted by: Steve from Danville | November 25, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
People,
try actaully understanding all tihs before you sound off….
Learn….I know since Cater put the Dept of Ed in place, its the last thing schools actually focus on, but try it!
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
I must have given $400 since October 2007. Yeah, I am a big donor!!! I want to be ambassador to Alaska, …sorry Russia.
Posted by: tchanta | November 25, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
This article is just funny. I am unemployed due to lay offs and my wife has one job. Since we gave multiple donations totaling over $200, we are wealthy? That is seriously the joke of the day! People need to spend their time reporting and calculating things that actually pertain to the current state of the US. The election is over, BO won, get over it and move on to better things!
Posted by: Diamond | November 25, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
LOL, listening to this you people sound like the followers of the various TV Evangelists. Handing out their last few pennies…
If you gave, good for you. If you did not understand the process of how the FEC handles these things, thats your own issue. Don’t whine about it after, hell…your guy won. It just kinda of hard to take the fact he is no different than any other politician in how he got there.
Posted by: Mike_C | November 25, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
I must have given $400 since October 2007. Yeah, I am a big donor!!! I want to be ambassador to Alaska, …sorry Russia.
Posted by: tchanta | Nov 25, 2008 12:41:06 PM
==================
Better close your blinds. Sarah Palin can see you from her house.
you betcha!!
Posted by: Omentum | November 25, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Diamond,
Good for you. Since you and your wife invested $200 in our Greatest Leader, and he promised to give each of you $1000 if you voted for him. You will have a net return of 1000%!
As for me, I gave him $0 dollars, and I get a return of infinity.
Posted by: fat cat | November 25, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
LOOK AT ALL THESE “COUNTRY FIRST” patriots who are attempting to deride the new president by any means necessary!!! So what the country has sever problems, and they have no ideas: oh yeah, Bill Ayesr!!! I guess my grandma’s contributions of between 10 – 25$ over the past year and a half makes us big donors!!! Well, OBAMA contributors don’t let these lihgtweight cry – babies try to turn a huge victory into what they all are a sham!! This is the same group that while America is suffering they seek every distraction imaginable; and is this is the best you got!!! By how much did OBAMA win???? 53%!!!! Remember, we were a group of people that thought our little contribution over time would win the White House!! So, keep whining like Rush and Sean; hell, you keep making Obama look great!!!
Posted by: OBAMA 53% | November 25, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
LOL, listening to this you people sound like the followers of the various TV Evangelists. Handing out their last few pennies…
If you gave, good for you. If you did not understand the process of how the FEC handles these things, thats your own issue. Don’t whine about it after, hell…your guy won. It just kinda of hard to take the fact he is no different than any other politician in how he got there.
Posted by: Mike_C | Nov 25, 2008 12:43:36 PM
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ummmm. That would be the evangelicals who vote overwhelmingly and blindly for the GOP.
Posted by: Oval Office Upgrade | November 25, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
I guess I’m a Fat Cat now. I gave $25 at a time my total might have been $400.
I guess if you give over $200 over a year you must be rolling in the money and can buy off any politician?
Posted by: Jim | November 25, 2008, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
What is defined as a small donor? $10.00 a month for two years makes $240.00. That seems to me to be small donations over time.
Posted by: George | November 25, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Jake,
You can’t pass up a chance to take a pot shot at Obama can you?
Count me as another “big” donor, since we gave $250.
Posted by: Henk | November 25, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Mike C. Give it up will you? Obama is our President. Accept it. Get on with life.
Posted by: geecee | November 25, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Jake im one of the thousands of SMALL donors
Posted by: Bonita | November 25, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
I was going to jump on the Obama bashing wagon too but $200 is a big donor? What a joke! I want to know how much Oprah gave.
Posted by: MBNA Joe | November 25, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
GOP you lost please respect President Elect Obama get over it maybe the next time you will leave Sara,Joe home:)
Posted by: Bonita | November 25, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
You “small donors” are funny. Don’t you realise that the standards are the same for every candidate? Don’t you realise that Obama knew exactly what those standards were every time he bragged about the number of small donations his campaign attracted? Do you seriously believe that only the Obama campaign attracted small donations?
They manipulated the numbers, as has already been pointed out.
What is still to come is a legal review of the illegal donations the Obama campaign accepted.
Why is it OK to break the law if you are Barack Obama?
Posted by: Keith | November 25, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
we gave $25.00 dollars is that small enough for the GOP it is amazing how you will not let this election go
Posted by: Bonita | November 25, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Jake, you gotta remember that these donors gave over the whole dual campaign push–from battling Hillary to battling John and that our contributions, mine was $50 a month, can add up. If you donated to Obama, you probably donated more than $200 over the 14 month campaign. We still count as SMALL donors.
And really, is this news?
Posted by: Jerome | November 25, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
For Obama to win it may have taken every last penny to defeat the racists factions of our country. I say more power to him to b e able to get so many to believe in the USA again!
Posted by: Harold B. | November 25, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
There have been reports of donors using those “Pre-Paid” credit cards, which could be illegal foreign donors. All this needs to come to light, because all during the campaign it was reported that it was small donors giving what amounted to millions of dollars.
Let the truth come to light!
Posted by: anotherperspective1 | November 25, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Just more smoke and mirrors. No one thought the final outcome would be any different than what is reported. obama would never do anything ………
Posted by: Moline | November 25, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
One thing that was not manipulated the election results:):):):):):):):)
Posted by: Bonita | November 25, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
You want some truth what about the IRAQ WAR WMDS 4,000 DEAD 1000,S WOUNDED FOR THE REST OF THERE LIVES HOMELESS IRAQ VETS LIVES SHATTERED CHILDREN WHO WILL NOT GET THE CHANCE TO KNOW THERE PARENTS WIVES MOTHERS FATHERS HUSBANDS
GRANDPARENTS DO NOT TALK ABOUT TRUTH
Posted by: Bonita | November 25, 2008, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
the condescension is so astounding sometimes.
Mike_C, so we can all read. And we read the ACTUAL link. It leads me to the question: did you UNDERSTAND the article? Nobody is disputing the facts. The facts are the facts. I don’t know about others, but I am disputing the conclusion about the reported myth. As you are reading on this very board, people are quite willing to explain how it worked: they gave small donations in increments. That’s the same claim that was made throughout the year by the campaign, the media and even the donors themselves. What is this Big Myth that this report is supposed to have busted?
Since you are quite skilled at reading, you may have also noticed that 67% of his incoming donation was in the $1-999 range. If we need to compare, that figure is 43% for Bush. As you can gather from the comments here, most people who considered themselves small donors would fall into that 67% category. Again, show me the myth.
Janic, I have read the book. What should I have been looking for?
Posted by: Question | November 25, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
This information was out there sometime ago indicating that the Obama camp was misrepresenting the percentage of money in campaign contributions that come from small donors and that their claims were coming into question from watchdog groups. People choose to believe what they want to believe though and even more so in this case when you had Obama renege on public financing. Campaign reform, regardless of how successful f McCain-Feingold is or is not , should be a huge issue if not one of the biggest issues for all of us who are fretting over the state of the economy today. We need to take the money out of politics and the people of this Country need more rights then corporations. Obama’s implying that he owes the little people and not the corporate world is false and was false from the beginning . Obama is our President , I hope for and support him 100% on trying to pull together the complex issues he will soon face but to believe that Obama is anything more than another rank and file corporate candidate is nothing less then ignorant.
Posted by: alpaig52 | November 25, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
My grandkids did not deal well with our sons deployments it was heart breaking to see there faces so hurt and scared for our son my daughter in law it was a sad sad time and as for myself my health did not fair well so please do not talk about (TRUTH) I thank GOD every day that our son came home safe there are so many who did not (TRUTH) how dare you Republicans use the word (TRUTH)
Posted by: Bonita | November 25, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Who really cares? Sounds like a slanted report to me. There’s a big difference in the donor profile of those writing a $2,300 check at a big event and those donating $100 a month over the net over several months.
And nearly 4 million donors? That’s 6% of all Obama voters donating for their candidate. That has to be a record.
I didn’t give Obama any money, but to me it’s pretty clear that this was a historic grassroots movement.
Posted by: Bud | November 25, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
what gets me is you republicans gave to the Palin/McCain show
Posted by: Bonita | November 25, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
ok now can we say President Obama :) let it go folks you can dream up all the mess you want to he is our 44th
President and I am so Happy:):):) you betcha:)
Posted by: Bonita | November 25, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
So how about the contributions on one time credit cards signed Donald Duck and Micky Mouse? (Some reporter did a test and his nonsense contributions WERE accepted.) Were they counted as separate donors?
Posted by: fsteele | November 25, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Over a year and half I gave $225. Never more than $25 at a time. I make less than 30,000 K a year, but I guess I’m a “big donor” now…
Posted by: W. R. Johnson | November 25, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Bud is right. People who contributed $20 or $30 a month a small donors. So there donations added up to more than $200. So what? I’ve given moprethan $200 to cnadidates but I’m nowhere near a $1,000, for example. I’m a small donor.
Posted by: Kjff | November 25, 2008, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
what part of it’s over do the large amount of republicans in particular Sean Hannity do not understand.
You had 2 years to do all possible to ensure pres. elect Obama didn’t win. Nothing else anyone says now matters, everyone voted and the majority won as our constitution mandates.
i really think this is all is getting to a point of manic obsession that definitely is not healthy.
Posted by: autoprt | November 25, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
This study is idiotic. Obama said he had 3.95 million “contributors.” This study does not dispute that. Now the definition of small vs. big donors is debatable. I gave $4,300 in increments that never exceeded $500. Before this year i had never contributed to a Presidential campain. The most important thing they should study is “How much money did Obama raise over the internet.”
Posted by: Kevin | November 25, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Not enough information to compute. Need more input Stephanie…Headline=CATS…
Content…apples oranges…beep beep beep…need input…
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah….
Posted by: Rebeccainca | November 25, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
W. R. Johnson: I agree, I would have never thought of myself as a “big donor”. I guess it is in who is calling it. Now if it was a Republicans we would be considered “small donors”.
Posted by: becky (the real one) | November 25, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Ridiculous. Every so often I was moved to make a small contribution. Over 2 years, sure – that ultimately added up to over $200. But each one was $25 or $50. I’m definitely a small donor, who did nothing more than make the choice between getting a few cups of coffee and changing the face of US politics a few times too many.
Posted by: Williamette | November 25, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
I am retired and not a big donor. However, my wife and I gave $25 to $50 at a time for a total that must be close to $800. Our first donation was on 2/15/08 which means these donations were over 10 months. We have never donated like this before and squeezed these frequent donations out of our budget.
It is amazing that anyone would look at people like us and think that we are rich or big donors. We are people of modest means who really cared about electing Obama.
Posted by: Terry | November 25, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
SO? Obama is a media created myth who ran a Chicago smack down campaign and won. He essentially bought the election!
And, now we will see if he can run a Chicago smack down presidency with his creators at his side? :)
Posted by: aware2u | November 25, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
This is the most blogging I have read on this site since the election. LOL Jake must be loving it today.
Posted by: becky (the real one) | November 25, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Bonita….I am very thankful for our men and women in the arm services that are making TREMDOUS scarificies so that my family can live in peace. But I would like to bring to everyone’s attention…in 2007 13,000 people died in alcohol-impaired traffic wrecks in the United States. Unfortunately we seem to do a good job of killing ourselves without the help of terriorist. 3 out of 10 Americans wil be involved in an alcohol – impaired wreck. Thoses are FACTs and it is sad that so many lives are wasted by a drunk driver.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 25, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
I would love to see the spirit of hope and change move him to full disclosure so we would know exactly who, where and how much money was poured into this “buy the presidency” campaign. Of course, I’d also like to have exray vision ….
Posted by: beebop | November 25, 2008, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
since anyone could buy a gift card and then donate it without any trace back in and of itself blows this away. millionaires could have gave tens or hundreds of thousands like this. And did.
Posted by: Phishmelt | November 25, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Three things concern me. 1. How much money came from overseas. 2. How much money came from the internet. 3. To me there is NO difference between a Bundler and lobbist/PAC money.. A Bundler is a new and improve fancier name for a lobbist/PAC money.
One other thing…. I want a CAP on how much an individual may raise to spend on a campaign. Think of all the money that was spent. It is ridiculous the amount of money that has been raised in the last 4 elections. There are people that are homeless because they have lost their job. There are people that are working two jobs to make ends meat to feed their family of 4. There are people that can’t afford health insurance.
Posted by: 55Mariposa | November 25, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
John the Baptist asked Jesus, the Messiah, if he was the one they were waiting for but Obama said he was “the one” we were waiting for!
There is something wrong with this picture, and it isn’t just the purchased election! :(
Posted by: aware2u | November 25, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
As one of the Obama “big donors,” I think some of this discussion misses the point. The millions of people who made small donations that, over the course of the campaign, added up to more than $200 were not looking to become Ambassador to Trinidad or get oil drilling rights in Yosemite National Park. They gave because they wanted a President they could be proud of.
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 25, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
aware2u -
Obama actually said “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for.”
Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | November 25, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
55mariposa: “Three things concern me. 1. How much money came from overseas. 2. How much money came from the internet. 3. To me there is NO difference between a Bundler and lobbist/PAC money.. A Bundler is a new and improve fancier name for a lobbist/PAC money.”
No difference between a bundler and a lonbbiest? A lobbiest is paid by a distinct private interest to advise political figures with information and research that encourages legislation favorable to the private interest.
A bundler is an individual that hits up his/her friends and connections to donate to a given campaign. The corporate bundler is really a creation of Karl Rove, where he recruited CEOs of private firms to bundle donations to win implied access to the administration. Bush’s unprecedented success leveraging bundlers in response to the McCain-Feingold act allowed him to dominate campaign spending the last two cycles. Bundlers do not provide research, data or make policy requests, they just ask their friends and network to donate to a candidate.
If you can’t see the large and basic differences between a lobbiest and a bundler then I’m not sure why you don’t look it up yourself before making a statement that only serves to make you look woefully uniformed.
Posted by: jhw539 | November 25, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
OMG
You mean some Obama hype isn’t factual?
The horror.
Posted by: Dood | November 25, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Phishmelt :”millionaires could have gave tens or hundreds of thousands like this. And did.”
So how long should we wait for proof of your fantasy?
Posted by: jhw539 | November 25, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
“I want a CAP on how much an individual may raise to spend on a campaign. ”
Obama bought this election by filling the airwaves with his phony promises.
Commercials on every network and every radio station that beat Obama’s slogans into weakling’s heads.
You know, it was bad when Repubs got crazy amounts of money and bought elections. It’s admirable when a Dem does it.
Posted by: Dood | November 25, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Of course, the Obama campaign would reject the study. Obama and his surrogates have skewed American political debate on perception, not facts. They have utilized the MSM to report perceptions as facts. It will be years before we find out the true facts of this election. The MSM became irrelevant and lost all credibility in American culture from this point forward.
Posted by: vici | November 25, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Talk about brainless statisticians.
Here’s a Reality Check stat for the worthless Campaign Finance Institute.
(Note to CFI, total donors is NOT the same as the percent of donors.)
Total Bush “small donors” (CFI definition >$200) – 331,051 (=25%).
Total Obama “small donors” (CFI definition) – 1,027,000 (=26%).
And according to the CFI’s own figures:
Percent of Bush donors donating total of $999 or less: 38% (390,260 donors)
Percent of Obama donors donating total of $999 or less: 53% (2,093,500 donors)
OBVIOUSLY the situation between Bush and Obama “small” donors is completely similar!
:p
And here is another reality check for CFI:
Percent of Bush voters who donated to him – 2%
1,324,206 donors / 62.0 million voters
Percent of Obama voters who donated to him – 5.9%
3.95 million donors / 66.8 million voters
Jake, maybe you can suggest the CFI do some studies on real issues.
Posted by: Bud | November 25, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
OMG
You mean some Obama hype isn’t factual?
The horror.
Posted by: Dood
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No, just your comment. This was the first time
I ever donated to a presidential race and anyone who wants to add to this can. BTW, Good ole’ Donald Trump tried to sneak another $2400.00 to the McCain committee but was caught. I’m sure he
gave it to McCain through a third party donor.
Posted by: spacerook1 | November 25, 2008, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
The important statistics are
1)what was the average donation per unique donor?
2)what % of unique donors were first time donors to a presidential campaign?
and finally,
3)what % of DONORS (not cash) gave less than $200? Of course if i give 5k it is weighted 25 times higher than someone who gave $200.
It cannot be denied that Obama brought in more money from more people giving less than $200 and more first time donors than anyone else in history.
Posted by: Paul | November 25, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
What?? Look, I donated to Obama’s campaign every single week-$10.00 to $50.00 a month-I believe in him. Distort and discuss all you want but the Presidential campaign is over. Lets move on!
Our economy is failing and thousands are losing jobs-lets pull together not apart-You don’t know if you will wake up tomorrow morning and have no job. My husband just lost his job after 15 years in what we thought was a stable agency. Lets talk about what is a real issue to solve-
Posted by: Sophia Beck | November 25, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
I understand that anyone who contributed $201 is considered a “Large Donor.”
The history for this rule is not relevant to me. Perhaps it is useful or necessary for some book keeping purpose at the FEC. I have no problem with that.
I do have a problem with using the same term for Repeat Small Donors that we use for Large Donors.
Run a story about Large Donors doing pretty much anything, and it IS a story. Run a story about small donors inspired to contribute more than once, and it is a very different story.
Calling these Repeat Small Donors “Large Donors” conflates those two groups, and those two stories.
So don’t bother with the history or statutory administrivia behind the $201 threshold number. That’s not the point.
And of course I agree that we have other priorities to deal with now. But this column is about this story, so that’s what we’re talking about here. And, having seen enough GOP revisionism in the past, I’m just trying to do my part to head it off on this subject.
Posted by: bco | November 25, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Edit for post below:
Percent of Bush donors donating total of $999 or less: 38% (503,198 donors)
Percent of Obama donors donating total of $999 or less: 53% (2,093,500 donors)
Still OBVIOUSLY completely equal….
:p
P.S. Jake,
I’m not sure how the fact that 53% of donors contributed $999 or less “demolishes the myth that President-elect Obama was largely funded by small donors” as you state.
And considering they nearly all will likely get that $1000 tax cut, it was probably a good investment.
Posted by: Bud | November 25, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Terry , don’t give away all the secrets.
The Republicans are still trying to figure
out how to use a computer.
Posted by: spacerook1 | November 25, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
I personally gave $225.00, everyone I know personally did the same…..even my elderly parents, neighbors, co-workers, volunteers, etc. Sounds like sour grapes to me
Posted by: reggie | November 25, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
All Right All You HATERS
You all still don’t get it!!! It is time for a real change. As far as cheating, Bush cheating got us in unnessary wars and deeper in depth. REMEMBER FLORIDA!!!!!!!!
Let’s concentrate on getting out of this mess we are in
Posted by: Santi | November 25, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
I thought having 2 candiates spending near 500 million was insane in ’04!
Since this study only included post convention numbers, its hard to tell exactly how much this election did cost overall. Im sure someone can do a little net searching and come up with the number.
Posted by: Mike_C
*************************
You know what should really be the
issue in this ? What did the media do
with the $billion in revenue they got
with this campaign. (I bet this gets censored!)
Posted by: spacerook1 | November 25, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
You would think that Obama people would be happy but I don’t see that anywhere. He can’t live up to any of his promises. I had to pay my mortgage and my gas this week. Where’s my money?
Posted by: CHAOS | November 25, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Careful Jake. Must not question “THE MESSIAH” in front of all his mindless minions. Barack Obama’s campaign was fueled by small donors, got it. The truth is whatever he says it is. Leave it at that-or else.
Posted by: Ken | November 25, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
bonita: I gather you are waiting for that check to pay for your gas and mortgage. You have a long road ahead of you if you think that government will help you.
Posted by: CHAOS | November 25, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
That’s right Jake. By the way, who is the MESSIAH? I didn’t get my money either!!!
Posted by: Santi | November 25, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
I never believed it anyway.
Posted by: Vi | November 25, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
I challenge any of President Elect Obama’s detractors to provide ONE IDEA to improve either campaign finance and/or the American Economy.
It is easy to attack somebody else’s plans and ideas.
Do you have any of your own?
What are they?
I’d love to hear those instead of the constant stream of gripes and complaints.
Posted by: Nashville_fan | November 25, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Yes, I’m shocked that a guy who lied about being friends with Bill Ayers, lied about never hearing Wright say anything hateful in church, took millions and millions of dollars in illegal campaign contributions from foreigners,and people using fake names and addresses, lies about how he’s going to cut taxes for 95% of Americans, lied about not letting lobbyists have positions in the Obama White House etc., etc. etc. would lie about getting most of his donations from small donors. After all the lies Obama has already told, why we would be surprised by anything Obama says?
Posted by: EyeDoc | November 25, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
When my 7 year old reads a story she has difficult time answering questions about the story, why b/c she is not comprehending what she is reading. She is in public school. Obama understands that USA has the worst education in its history and worse than many other countries. Don’t you think that children are our future and who we raise now will run this country? McCain wanted to fix our poor education with vouchers???!!!??? What the heck do vouchers have to do with poor curriculum, low standards and uneducated teachers???? Who cares if Obama contributors went over the coveted $200 threshold? What you should be worried about is corporations such as GM contributing millions and NOT you’re slightly better off neighbor who had $200 more than you and now he is over the threshold and is being considered a large donor. That is not the point really. If a person contributed who can not influence Obama later or blackmail him, who cares.
Posted by: Anna | November 25, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
I donate small amounts to President elect Obama campaign….No more than twenty dollars at a time in which this was all I could afford.
Posted by: Della1 | November 25, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
At this point, does who gave to PEBO’s campaign make a difference? He ran a great campaign, won the presidency and now the REAL work starts. I didn’t vote for PEBO, but I wish him well … after all the Office of President is bigger than any one person and for sake of our country and the future of our citizens, we all need to support the Office even if we disagree with who’s holding the job, but continue to be vigilant of the policies, practices and positions being taken by those in charge, including Congress.
Posted by: moder8 | November 25, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Here is a novel thought for some—when a man gives his word that he will only taking public financing for his campaign then he would only take public fianancing for his campaign. Radical isn’t it??
Posted by: worried088 | November 25, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
“I challenge any of President Elect Obama’s detractors to provide ONE IDEA to improve either campaign finance and/or the American Economy.”
That’s not particularly challenging now is it? Cut capital gains taxes to zero, cut corporate taxes, cut marginal income tax rates, cut federal spending. Put a time limit on political campaigns. We shouldn’t have to suffer through campaigns that are two years long, and it would also put an end to billion dollar campaigns.
Posted by: EyeDoc | November 25, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
I wonder if this post should be subtitled, “Water Under a Bridge” or “Fodder for Neo-Con Conspiracy Theorists”
Posted by: John Doe Eastern Washington | November 25, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
I donated $10 every time someone sent me one of those “Obama is an arab/muslim/transgender/wife beating/communist/ terrorist emails. I’m sure it must have totaled more than $200!
Posted by: Pete | November 25, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
This is nothing but funny numbers. When you see an analysis where the numbers switch from dollars to percent to number of people and back again, be very suspicious. Look back through, read between the lines, and you will see what I mean.
This outfit has an agenda looking for justification.
Posted by: forbzee | November 25, 2008, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
“That’s not particularly challenging now is it? Cut capital gains taxes to zero, cut corporate taxes, cut marginal income tax rates, cut federal spending. Put a time limit on political campaigns.” – Eye Doc
Eye Doc,
Once we finish cutting everyone’s taxes, how do you propose we dig ourselves out of our current deficit, especially while still fighting two wars?
Do you think we can cut enough “waste” to cover more than $12 billion dollars a month for war AND the billions and billions of dollars that are now being spent to nationalize all of these banks?
Posted by: Nashville_fan | November 25, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
Who CARES? I mean, really? the story is not CREDIBLE, especially those who not only voted and donated to the campaign. I’m sick and tired of ppl bashing OUR President-Elect! I never donated to any presidental campaign, unitl this one. WHY? Because this is a CHANGE that I believe in, as well as those who helped to get Mr. OBAMA in office! Sick of hearing about how the Obama campaign lied, no it did not, and he hasn’t got the chance to get sworn in.(So please stop trying to PREDICT, what will happen in the next four years) It is funny tho, especially the anti-Obama supporters, I hope Sarah does run in 2012, she’ll give us not only a good laugh but a sure win . OBAMA 08-16
Posted by: truth | November 25, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
I want to laugh so loud…LOL!
I never believe it ever… but you have to believe in him because he is Obama.
Posted by: crisis08 | November 25, 2008, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
It is all in the “BUNDLING” and do you know who the bundlers could be…guess!!! Certainly not legal donations by any stretch of the imagination! And I guess the Obama supporters are disappointed now that Obama is not going to hand out a stimulus check to everybody….you’ll have to pay your own mortgage and buy your own gas…time to get a job..
Posted by: mfmros | November 25, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
The world will be utopia after Jan 20th. The skys will be more blue the oceans will be clean and all the obama supporters will have money in the bank. All of us “rich” folk will be broke and out of a job. Oh wait, we own the companies that supply jobs. Oh well. The messiah will fix it.
Posted by: CHAOS | November 25, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
I’m one of those donors, who made small contributions to President-Elect Obama’s (those words sound wonderful) campaign every time I was able to save up a little money. I’d like to know how many similar donors old Johnny McSame had – probably a few hundred compared to over a million or two million for our current President-Elect. I take great delight in watching those who cause misery to so many people wallow around in their own misery.
Posted by: caliguy55 | November 25, 2008, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
So now,,Jake, dig it up again where those big donors come from.
Posted by: crisis08 | November 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
You Obama supporters are so pathetic…this guy will give you change all right….cannot wait until you get the real change this camelion is going to give you…your change will be your dislike for just another lying politician!!
Posted by: mfmros | November 25, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
The bigger story is the credit card donations with no name verification – where was the media on that?
Why is there no pressure on Obama to release the list of less than $200 donations? And how much of his over $600 million raised came from gift cards bought by foreigners?
Posted by: Terry | November 25, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
The whole point of the $200 limit is that people who contribute less do not have to be identified, which is what they wanted – for these contributors NOT to be identified. I believe a ton of it came from overseas, which is illegal. So no pacs outwardly gave any money, but how do you know? You don’t know who contributed if they gave $200 a thousand times using all different names, or using the store bought credit cards that can’t be traced. So maybe there were pacs who wrote “donald duck” as the donor. Or worse, maybe they were foreign donations. That really compromises our country. There is a reason these laws are made keeping in check campaign contributions. And how does anyone justify spending over 650 million on a campaign? Thought he was worried about the economy and starving people. And as for his cabinet picks so far, if we had wanted so many of Clinton’s people, we would have voted for Clinton.
Posted by: KathyfromNY | November 25, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Posted by: mfmros | Nov 25, 2008 4:26:07 PM
Well it was between McCain and Obama. After 8 years of a republican, we wanted to see a dem in the white house. Now that’s what I consider change.
Posted by: d | November 25, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Ah, the last hope of the defeated, a nefarious conspiracy!
Since you don’t KNOW that anything illegal happened, and you can’t PROVE anything illegal happened, you just DREAM that something illegal happened.
Have fun making up stories – the rest of us will be trying to SAVE OUR COUNTRY, seeing as it was left in tatters by all the half-baked foreign and domestic policies the Republican party has been trying out on us for the past 7 years and 10 months.
I hear they have medicine that can greatly reduce paranoid delusional attacks – you all might want to look into that – with your muslim, birth certificate, marxist, wealth sharing nonsense.
Time to grow up folks – we can no longer afford the luxury of listening to your fairytales.
Posted by: Nashville_fan | November 25, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
The claim of those who exceeded the $200 while giving, let’s say $10 a month, that they are “small donors” is ridiculous. $1,000 or $500 is $1,000 or $500 no matter how you give it, in tens, fives or $1,000 at a time. The total sum of your contribution is what makes the difference. And yes, this is another lie of Obama’s campaign. The funny thing is that I don’t understand why Jake is bringing this up now.
Posted by: Definitely Common Sense | November 25, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
The real Bush legacy,
-Not been attacked since 9/11, even though liberals have done EVERYTHING in their power to make us as weak and vulnerable as possible by combatting EVERY piece of anti-terrorist legislation that has been proposed.
Whether it be voting against the Patriot Act, screaming “torture” when we drop water down terrorrists noses, making multiple anti-American “documentares” joe goebelle’s style, or simply saying that you have never been proud of your country in your adult life, as bitter Michelle Obama has proudly stated several times, liberals ALWAYS jump to the anti-American position. They extend olive branches to mass murderers but don’t hesitate to call Bush “evil”.
History will vindicate Bush, who has certainly made mistakes, but overwhelming ran this country on a steady course. He chose to listen to the intelligence around him and not by poll #’s. (polls were overwhelming in favor of doing NOTHING in 1939 to combat hitler).
McCain’s inability to expose the dems as robin hood, socialists who have been running around imposing their “spread the wealth around” policies, forcing fannie mae/freddie mac to give loans to people who could never pay them back, and are the real reason our economy is in shambles, is not the fault of Bush.
If the media hadn’t abandoned its principles years ago, barry obama would never have been elected.
Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | November 25, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Nashville_fan “the rest of us will be trying to SAVE OUR COUNTRY, seeing as it was left in tatters by all the half-baked foreign and domestic policies the Republican party has been trying out on us for the past 7 years and 10 months.” — I’m just wondering, if you believe our country is in tatters, why have you waited to try to save it?? Jump right in and get to work. No need to wait for Obama. There’s plenty to be done now and many of us (republicans and democrats) are already working to save it.
Posted by: A little curious | November 25, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | Nov 25, 2008 5:29:22 PM
Americans do not hate America. But some feel Bush was not even close to being a good president. A democrat was going to win this year no matter what and especially against McCain. It has nothing to do with the media.
Posted by: annie | November 25, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
If you were relying on Bush to save you you are disappointed. If you are relying on Obama to save you ,you will be disappointed. Government cannot help you . You have to help yourself. That is why I’m a conservative. That is why I don’t have major problems and am very happy. Liberals always depend on someone else, such as Katrina victims,that is why they will always be waiting for a savior. Good luck with that!
Posted by: CHAOS | November 25, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Anna – for most children who have trouble reading, it’s the parents who are to blame, not the educational system. Most schools encourage parents to read with youngsters for at least 20 minutes each day, and few follow that guideline. Combine that with the fact that few parents volunteer in the classroom or attend PTO meetings or school board meetings and you’ll realize that most parents themselves don’t value education or even care how their school board spends money – you can’t blame everything on the government. Citizens deserve most of the blame when schools fail.
And just so you know, the US has some of the best schools in the world – people come from all over the world to go to school here. Yes, we have some pretty mis-managed public ones too, but take a look at education in places like Haiti, Cuba or some African nations before you start calling US schools some of the worst in the world.
Attend a school board meeting and look at how they are spending money. Compare that with some of the more creative districts who have found ways to save money and provide better education (hint, it takes a whole community to make a school successful).
Posted by: Ugly truth | November 25, 2008, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
There was no way I would have given 1 dime to this MORON. The way he blew money I could have used some of the millions he blew, OH where is my money he was suppose to help out the little guy with by the way.LOL I never believed a word this guy said, and I still can’t believe all the people that fell for him
Posted by: countrygirl_74 | November 25, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Once upon a time I was a small doner. Then things got to me and I ended up donating a total of 4 times. There must have been a few of me. I would not call my somewhat over $400 some huge amount. I guess they do though.
Posted by: Susan-1 | November 25, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
So are wingnuts going to act like crybabies for the next 4 years or what? I love reading the unhinged rants from idiotic talk radio listeners who still can’t believe Obama won. I love it!
Posted by: Mickee | November 25, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
I have to admit as well that after watching George Bush and his gang of corporate stooges disgrace our highest offices for the last 8 years, listening to these pathetic squeals of sour grapes is most entertaining.
Posted by: Piles | November 25, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
First of all the idea that you could fund a campaign on 5.00 is really not
dealing in reality. The important thing here is it gave folks like us a voice
however small it was. That is more important in the end!I hardly consider
200.00 a big contribution do you?
Posted by: chris johan | November 25, 2008, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
This is just the first of many lies which will begin to be exposed in the open.
Posted by: whatever | November 25, 2008, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
I gave 6 to 8 times. My last donation was $5. My largest donation was $25. I’m self-employed, single, and a full-time non-traditional college student. I think I’m pretty typical of the average Obama supporter.
Posted by: cturple | November 25, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Posted by: countrygirl_74 |
There was no way I would have given 1 dime to this MORON. The way he blew money I could have used some of the millions he blew, OH where is my money he was suppose to help out the little guy with by the way.LOL I never believed a word this guy said, and I still can’t believe all the people that fell for him
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If this typifies a Republican – it’s no wonder you guys lost.
Posted by: cturple | November 25, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Now Jake why don’t you check the donor list and see how many are not even legit and foreign. Was there money laundering going on?
Posted by: jklm_abcd | November 25, 2008, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
He will go back on his word as long as it will get him where he wants to go.
Posted by: poop | November 25, 2008, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
This is such biased non-analytical thinking! If the cut off is $250 for you to report it as a ‘small donor’ contribution, then it is time to raise the ‘small donor’ designation perhaps. Over an 18 month campaign, $1,000 is only about $55/month. Should $55 a month for Obama supporters be lumped in with $10,000 a month contributions? I think not.
The PEOPLE elected Obama, not large donors. It doesn’t matter how you spin it for the sore-losing republicans you represent, the educated critical thinking new America knows the real deal.
Sorry Rush (ooops, Jake), your analysis is flawed and obviously wants to slant dum-dum opinion. Instead, why not fight the good fight and ask whether small donors in 2008 should be limited to a $13 a month in order to NOT be considered large donors? Can’t even fill your gas tank for a week on $13 to put this in perspective.
Posted by: Common Sense | November 25, 2008, 9:46 pm 9:46 pm
Caliguy, you suggest that McCain (or JOhnny McSame as you so magnanimously and bipartisanly refer to him) did not have the number of small donors that Obama did. You use yourself as anecdotal evidence, so I will counter with my own example. I seriously doubt that Sen. McCain had only a few hundred donors like myself. I too donated small amounts multiple times, as did my spouse and my two young adult children. I also made small donations to Hillary Clinton. The act of making small donations that add up over time is not unique to this campaign or to this candidate. What is unique is the way his campaign successfully spun their donations as a new phenomenon, which they were, in fact, not.
As I recall, Obama used his base of small donors as an excuse to ignore his pledge to take public financing. Now the media discovers that this small donor base was statistically no greater than the small donor percentage of previous candidates of both parties. Funny, but during the campaign, numerous posters and bloggers pointed out that mathematically, the numbers did not seem to back up the Obama campaign’s claims. He proceeded to spend his way to victory and now, after the fact, the media talks about what we already knew. I am seeing a pattern here.
And thanks to all the posters reminded ABC that there are other problems buried in that pile of donations that are crying out to be investigated.
Posted by: moderate | November 25, 2008, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
cturple,
Posted by: countrygirl_74 |
There was no way I would have given 1 dime to this MORON. The way he blew money I could have used some of the millions he blew, OH where is my money he was suppose to help out the little guy with by the way.LOL I never believed a word this guy said, and I still can’t believe all the people that fell for him
…………..
If this typifies a Republican – it’s no wonder you guys lost.
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Exactly. They’d rather make sure Sarah Palin was dressed and made up nice-nice for Joe the Plumber to fawner all over. Sarah is the new CEO, so, by their twisted logic, she deserves better than her own supporters. They don’t seem to *get that politicians are public servants either.
Posted by: Common Sense | November 25, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
Folks, Jake is not pulling these figures and this analysis out of thin air. And he is not carrying the Republican’s water. The study was done by a NONPARTISAN group interested in campaign finance. Or do you only listen to nonpartisan groups when they report things that agree with your established opinions?
The amount of money raised in this campaign cycle, by all the candidates but particularly by Barack Obama, is disturbing. Do you really want future politicians to take as their lesson that the key to success is massive fundraising? Do you really feel comfortable with a candidate being able to outspend his rival on ads by anywhere from 4 to 8 times as much in some states because one candidate took public financing and the other did not? Do you really want the richest or best financed candidate to win, rather than the best candidate?
You may dismiss my concerns as sour grapes if you wish, but I can truly say that I would be equally upset if a Republican candidate used the same sort of monetary advantage in a future election. One of the reasons I admire John McCain is McCain/Feingold, which was a good faith effort to bring some measure of control to campaign finance. The law has its flaws, but it is an important step in the right direction.
Posted by: moderate | November 25, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
I gave about 7-8 times, my smallest donation was $5 and my largest was $40. I probably just barely broke the $200 mark over the course of the primary and the general election. I own my own biz.
Posted by: josh | November 25, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
“Do you really want the richest or best financed candidate to win, rather than the best candidate?”
In this case the richest or best financed candidate was the best candidate. Obama won not with money, but with votes. Get over it.
Posted by: McChickens | November 25, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Hey, jake. You have been pretty good this season, but even you need to ride herd harder on this Obama BS. We knew this all along, and we also know—so please don’t hold off any more—that many of his donations are illegal, foreign and from those who have maxed out. There is still time to save us from an Obama presidency, what with the SCOTUS reviewing the birth certificate issue and the Kenyans building a monument to his birthplace.
Posted by: Jo Chgo | November 25, 2008, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
3.95 Million Americans gave to the Obama campaign. Those that supported him from the beginning gave more than the $200.00 level when their gifts were totaled up 2 years down the road.
580,000 Americans gave small donations in many steps that cause their total to be above the $200.00 mark.
If someone had told me that IF I gave $1,000.00 or more I would be considered a LARGE donor; I most likely would of made the one time payment.
I know a bunch of people that woud of jumped on the band wagon too.
Posted by: Hewitt | November 25, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
Oh come on, what is the rest of the breakdown? What is the percentage between $200 and $1000. I guarantee its much higher than for Bush.
I am sure that if you look a bit further, the true “reality” is this: Obama created a whole lot of new small donors out of people who never gave before (to get to that 3.95 million number), and over the course of the campaign turned a $20 donor into a $200 donor and the $100 donor into a $300 donor. I gave over $500 to Obama, but on about 8-10 different occasions. The real story is not that so many new donors got involved, but that Obama managed to up-sell donors into repeat donations.
Posted by: Mike | November 25, 2008, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
McChicken responded to my question, “Do you really want the richest or best financed candidate to win, rather than the best candidate?” with “In this case the richest or best financed candidate was the best candidate. Obama won not with money, but with votes. Get over it.”
McChicken, if you look at my post, I was talking specifically about the precedent set with this election. I was not talking about Obama here, but about future candidates in future elections. Do you, in general, want it to become the norm that the path to victory is to be the wealthiest or best financed candidate? I am not the one who needs to “get over it.”
Posted by: moderate | November 25, 2008, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
The Obama myth only exists in the minds of the lemmings that elected him. No matter how obvious his lies become or how atrocious his performance is, those same lemmings will remain oblivious and will continue to tout him as a messiah and the answer to all the worlds’ woes. Because those lemmings only pay attention when they are told to pay attention and American politics isn’t about being the most qualified, having the best ideas or doing the best job, it’s about misleading the greatest number of people. Congrats Mr. Obama, you were able to mislead the greatest number of people.
Posted by: Paul | November 26, 2008, 1:13 am 1:13 am
I think all of Obama’s donations should be investigated, not just the small ones! I don’t believe that all of his donations were legal and I think we’d be very surprised if we knew who some of his donations came from too!
Posted by: carlyonsue | November 26, 2008, 1:45 am 1:45 am
This is not news, this information was out there before today but I doubt it’s that coincidental that the Obama camp would put out today that they plan to limit Inagural contributions to $50,000. They will and have thrown us a bone here and there to let the uninformed believe that Obama is not a corporate candidate like all the others
and to make us believe that radical change in regards to campaign reform is on it’s way. If it ever is at all from this administration it won’t be until after 2012 when he’s ran and won the Presidency again. Obama did nothing this election that other candidates haven’t and won’t in regards to campaign funds , his camp just did a better job of convincing those who don’t do their homework that somehow they were different. I don’t fault the Obama camp for being the same old corporate politics that is the norm but rather I fault them on their pretending to be something they are not. Campaign reform is a major issue and is in part at the root of our economic crisis. We need to take corporate money out of politics. I support capitalism and I support democracy but corporate money is corrupting democracy and we need to give the power back to the people. Obama reneged on public financing and that should have been a first clue in regards to his committment on real campaign reform and limiting the influence of the corporate world on the political system. Most people in this Country don’t even know what public financing is and who was publicly financed and who was not and how that fits into the bigger scheme in regards to the decisions our politician’s make. How anyone can say this Country shifted more to the left of center when most don’t even understand the issues of the left is a joke.
Posted by: alpaig52 | November 26, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
McCain long championed campaign finance reform, although his final effort, McCain-Feingold, was compromised by the realities of politics. Perhaps we can look forward to an administration, if not Obama’s then that of his successor, who will reconcile freedom of speech with necessary prohibitions of special interest organizations buying the President and Congress. Please consider first the inportance and urgency of this issue; governments fall due to corruption, and ours is fast becoming the most corrupt in history (both parties). Reform need only embody two ideas: 1. Contributions may come from only individuals, and must come directly from them. 2.Reporting must be so timely (and, thanks to the internet it can be) that when voters go to the polls, they know whose voices they have heard throughout the campaign; that they know what they are really voting for or against. Freedom of speech is a real American legacy, but prohibioting contributions from organizations, whether the UAW, GM, The Sierra Club, PETA, even SPEBSQSA (look that one up) is not a violation of that freedom. This ain’t rocket science. Write your congressman and help make it happen.
Posted by: tom beebe | November 26, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am
My husband is an American citizen, we live in Canada. Obama returned money to him when he couldn’t provide a passport number. He explained that as an American citizen, he doesn’t need a passport to come to Canada. He offered to provide his Social Security number instead. They returned the money because they said its their policy to return funds where no passport number could be provided.
So all you who are saying the Obama campaign accepted illegal foreign contributions are fools. I’ve never heard of ANY political organization turning away money. They are on the up and up all they way.
By the way, my husband voted for the very first time in his life for Obama via an Absentee Ballot. He donated small amounts as he could afford them, $20 or $25 dollars at a time since January. I think in total he spent something like $300.
Posted by: CMJ | November 26, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
I can’t believe reading some of the comments how really foolish some people think. You blind fools didn’t go to his website, fill in Dora the Explorer, put in an amount, your card number, etc., and it go through.
We have screen shots and followed through. Money could have come in from anywhere and anyone. There was no accountability. In other words, foreign money, corporations, lobbyists, ect., could give any amount, from any country and it goes through. Especially, gift card money. America is blind and looking the other way when it comes to Obama.
No accountability is being held regarding his campaign money by not auditing the income. You want to know why 9/11 happened? By our USA government not doing their jobs! So ignore $650 million. America deserves the government we have because none of you care enough to write or call our congress for action.
I cannot believe the ignorance of our American people. You get what you ask for.
Posted by: Kathy | November 26, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Okay, now that we know that some rich folks bought themselves a president, all we have left to find out is where was this puppet made? Birth certificate please. Can you get that for us Jack?
Posted by: exdemocrat | November 26, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
I don’t give a damn if the money came from your grandma,’s stinky panty hose. I agree that some of the money may have come from republicans that wanted to bring up the issue of his donor process. But who the hell gives a damn! OBAMA won fair and square, despite all the crap that was thrown at him. Give him a chance to do things his way. We allowed Bush do his. Channel some of your negative energy toward helping this country get a steady footing once again.
Posted by: obamacratic | November 26, 2008, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm
The question now arises: The so-called small donors who contributed repeatedly up to the $4,600 legal limit in small increments of $200 or less, did they contribute their own money or was the money channeled through them by the super rich with a stake in the outcome of the election? It’s hard to believe that the average American, struggling to stay financially afloat in this hard times, could afford to make campaign contributions of any size.
Posted by: Carlos Navarro | December 1, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
Anna – So what you are saying is that the school is not teaching your daughter anything. She is getting 100% on every paper and every test and she just doesn’t know anything because they are not bothering to teach her and she is learning EVERYTHING that they ARE teaching. Furthermore, I assume you check her homework, make her correct it, make her read the requisite 20-30 minutes a day, and the school just refuses to teach her and won’t give her advanced or exta credit assignments. But,somehow Obama will fix it. Are they going to next drill holes in the kids, heads and pour the information in? The schools don’t need to teach anything more until the kids learn what the schools are already teaching.
Posted by: Karen | December 4, 2008, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Well Carlos, let me be one of those people to testify for you. I contributed 20 to 35 a month for 19 months. Every month! I think I give one 40 when Palin was selected, so yes it is possible and no i am not rich. But 10 every 2 weeks isnt a whole lot at all. SO believe it!
Posted by: Shawna | December 4, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm