Republicans to Try Burning Obama on Coal

Isn’t Obama’s stance the same as McCain’s on this issue?

Obama said the same thing
Biden said the samw thing
What is wrong in playing Obamas own words
African American Supporting McCain

Obama just lost the coal developing states.

In context or out of context, the soupbone quote is:
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.

>>“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted. That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel, and other alternative energy approaches.
In other words, coal companies are going to be *blackmailed* into paying for wind farms – that take arable land our of production, and biodiesel, that sends corn prices skyrocketing for peasants.
And why didn’t he just say, “So people can build coal plants if they want – as long as they burn cleanly.” He didn’t say that, so you know what he really has in mind.

I used to support Sen. Obama, but this isn’t even about the Bush-Obama Energy Policy Act of 2005, and this isn’t even about the liberal elitist mainstream media hiding darning evidence of Sen. Obama’s world-views, such as the Los Angeles Times hiding the videotape of his toasting Palestinian terrorist Rashid Khalidi. This is about Sen. Obama being cynical. If he doesn’t believe in coal, why can’t he just say, “I will not permit coaling”? He has to say it cynically, tauntingly, dismissively… “You can build it, I’ll just bankrupt you.” In the words of Gen. Powell’s endorsement, that’s not “transcendent,” that’s not “electrifying,” and that’s not “unifying.” That’s dismissive.

Big deal. It’s over. . .
. . . and I can’t wait until President Obama calls a special “energy task force” meeting to discuss global warming and the future energy needs in the country, and only invites Secretary of the Interior Al Gore and members of the Sierra Club, EARTH FIRST!, Earth Liberation Front, Gaia Mater, Earth Liberation Prisoner Support Network, Conservation Law Foundation, The Nature Conservancy and Greenpeace.
Oil company executives are invited to sit in their offices with a bottle of whiskey and a loaded gun…

Not mentioned here: He went on to say: “You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.

There were 60,000 people at an Obama rally in Ohio today and Palin had only 3,000 around the same time.
Obama/Biden 08!

McCain is a coward! Period

Good deal.. I’m glad to see the McCain is fighting until the end.
btw – The most accurate poll (IBD) has Obama up by only 2 POINTS nationally. He has been dropping 2-4 points daily.
Better not spend too much on champagne because your Obama welfare check may not arrive after all.
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Wade, “read my lips”: It’s over. . .
. . . and I can’t wait until President Obama calls a special “energy task force” meeting to discuss global warming and the future energy needs in the country, and only invites Secretary of the Interior Al Gore and members of the Sierra Club, EARTH FIRST!, Earth Liberation Front, Gaia Mater, Earth Liberation Prisoner Support Network, Conservation Law Foundation, The Nature Conservancy and Greenpeace.
Oil company executives are invited to sit in their offices with a bottle of whiskey and a loaded gun…

Why are Obama’s longtime friends so much alike?
Rev Wright, Pfleger, Ayers…
They are obnoxious, smug, arrogant, hateful, radical.
Honestly would you spend a lot of time with someone unless you enjoyed their company?

Taken straight from the leftist playbook, the Obama campaign is doing its best to convince McCain supporters to not even bother voting on Tuesday. Spread the story around about Obama’s stance on coal – just his latest bit to screw the electorate. Pay no attention to the small man behind the curtain (and the mainstream media) – get out an vote McCain/Palin!

Obama wanting to bankrupt the coal industy should play well in Ohio, Pennsylvaina, West Virginia, Virgina. This Obama guy is dangerous.

Senator Obama said:
“. . . we must invest in clean coal technologies that we can use at home and share with the world.”
I agree with that approach as well.

How exactly do you generate billions of dollars for investment from bankrupted companies?

Beer’s Law and laboratory experiments have proven that it is impossible for carbon dioxide to significantly heat the atmosphere. It is generally accepted that global avg. temps. rose ~0.7 degrees Celsius during the last 100 years or so, and this mimics the natural warming since the end of the Little Ice Age. This slight atmospheric warming cannot melt the Arctic ice as we’ve seen. The Arctic ice is melting from below from warmer oceans. Most sea ice is below the sea, so it must be warmer oceans melting the ice, and since the atmosphere cannot heat the oceans, the oceans must be warming naturally for reasons that are still unclear. However, what is known is that natural global warming has preceded ice ages for millenia. When oceans warm, precipitation increases due to increased evaporation, resulting in increased snowfall. Eventually snow remains year round and the planet chills. Many climatologists believe the planet is due for its next ice age and the transition is already happening. Warming oceans are a primary indicator, and look at how many snowfall records have been set in recent times. The main point, though, is that CO2 cannot cause significant atmospheric warming, and science has proven this fact. Look it up. Do your own research and free your mind. Obama’s plans for Draconian carbon regulation and taxation is completely unnecessary and based on junk science that believes CO2 is catastrophically heating the Earth, and this is completely false. If Obama succeeds he will send this country past a recession and into a new Great Depression essentially making Socialism easy to impose.

I received four phone calls today. Two were from Obama asking me to vote and two were robo calls from McCain.
I saw five commercials today. Two were Obama ads discussing his plans for the future and three were Rev Wright ads from a McCain 527.
The choice is easy for me. Should I vote for a man with class and vision, or a petty, and pathetic old man?
Obama/Biden 2008

Holy cow! Did Obama just wake up that morning drunk or something? I realize “Uh Uh Uh Uh…” isn’t the same as slurring his words, but then he actually said he’d bankrupt companies that are key to Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, Missouri, etc., and etc.
Why? Why did he do that? That makes no sense.

A quote on coal as a last day issue?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Bye bye Palin
Bye Bye Old Man

I read that one of BO’s worshippers on MSM said Obama lifted himself up from the streets of Hawaii.
You know those mean cruel streets of Hawaii.
Man is the BS gettin deep over in Obamaland.
As Arnold said–McCain spent more time in a POW camp than BO spent in the Senate.

pefros:
Auto industry “destroyed?”
Wealth “gone”
Homes “lost”- is that everyone? Read the news – Nationwide, the number of foreclosure filings in September declined 12 percent from August…freezes on foreclosures…all is not lost, I promise you…unless of course, you are wishing for another depression so the federal government can obtain more power.
This is exactly the kind of fearful propaganda that democrats use (talk about “fear!”…it is black and white thinking. Bush presidency, all evil and bad, future under Obama…perfect, as long as those meddling republicans don’t get in his way…right?
I call it the “exploding feet” syndrome.

Concerned:
Sheesh, don’t bother bringing up the point about bankrupted companies with Obama supporters, they want them to go bankrupt before they get a chance to refine their technologies.

All the Kings Horses and All the Kings men couldn’t put Obama back together again.
Everyday we learn something new about Obama that sheds more light on his character and inability to lead.
I apologize for my fellow democrats that are voting for this charlatan-Barack Obama.
Obama is a disgrace to the DNC.

I voted for Obama in the primary. I felt that he had the makings of a great president, in large part because of his charisma and optimism. I felt Obama could be a Democratic equivalent of Ronald Reagan — a charismatic leader who can shift the direction of the country through the force of his personality.
At the time, I didn’t know much about Obama. What I have learned since then is very disturbing, and at this point, I believe that Obama is the worst major-party nominee for president in my lifetime. If you are undecided in this election please vote for McCain.
I will be enthusiastic about voting for McCain because it’s the only hope for stopping the likely catastrophe of an Obama presidency.

What is this out of context quote on coal compared to McCain’s classic:
“We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies.”
A presidential candidate who was able to seriously address these words to an audience will ALWAYS lose an election.

Jake, check all the right wing sites today, including the PUMA babies’ blog, to see how this “attack” on Obama was carefully set up, as a very last attempt.
And everyone in the MSM jumps, you included.
It’s a sorry sight.

It’s dangerous when someone, like Obama, thinks he knows everything about everything. We’ve all met that type, brillant yet not being able to admit they might be wrong. Playing with people’s lives and livelyhood like it’s some kind of chess game. It’s all too familiar.

The problem Obama has is that he admits that the fines would bankrupt the coal industry. 49% of all American energy comes from coal. Obama’s aunt yesterday and now Obama’s own words on bankrupting the coal industry today. Maybe LA Times could release the tapes tomorrow?

Jesus St. Jesus:
!!! from your prior post I thought you supported McCain, because no sane person could hold such an opinion. So you want oil company executives to shoot themselves and wish that Earth First was in the White House making energy policy!??
asdfnahapccnbbdhjas! I am living in a world insane.

pefros:
Again with the “dignity” comment. Yep, any criticism of Obama for his policies makes you “undignified…” Can’t wait for the next four years…Obama, please save us from your followers.
Please at least try to have an opinion instead of mouthing slogans.

“Ahhhhh, the sky is falling!!!”
–average McCain supporter

Obama will bankrupt every business he can so they can all become state owned. The grand plan was laid out long ago by Karl Marx and hand carried to Obama by Ayers.

Concerned in OH,
“Can you believe all these people that bought into this manufactured Messiah?”
Thank you for your blasphemous reference that offends all us God-loving people of many faiths. Haven’t figured out yet that Limbaugh, Hannity, Planke, Levine and Palin were all hoping for Obama to win? They must have been because every time y’all saw Obama is the messiah, we are reminded that you people disrespect everyone else’s religion.
-Limbaugh thinks you’re dittoheads.
-Hannity wants Limbaugh’s spot.
-Planke tells you what to think.
-Levine loves abusing you for ego.
-Palin wants to run for Pres.
Keep them happy and keep exposing your disrespect for others’ faiths.
Obama/Biden 08!

Have they thrown the kitchen sink yet?
I can’t wait to see the look on the face of these jokers when they find out all this cr– didn’t do jack.
McCain is going down folks and going down hard. No amount of much is going to save him.
McCain has no ground game. No get out the vote effort. GOP offices in Florida and other battleground states close at 5 p.m. and when they are open there are maybe a handful of volunteers. Obama’s volunteers work into the wee hours of the morning planning and preparing for the next day’s calls and door knockings.
Wake up and smell the coffee. John McCain is doomed.

Wade
Earth first doesn’t realize that global warming is totally a fraud. If you checked the the temp and co2 graphs side by side you would see that emp rise occurs before co2 rise. The warming by the of the oceans causes them to give off more co2. Besides co2 accounts for less than 1/2 of 1 percent of the total atmosphere. But thatis for another blog.

Not taken out of text to me Go Mccain/Palin
Let me sort of describe my overall policy.
What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there.
I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.
The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.
It’s just that it will bankrupt them.

“A COMPLETE RESTRUCTURING OF SOCIETY is what Mr. Obama advocates in a 2001 interview.”
“He wants to be a founding father of a different America, one that would bear little resemblance to the country we have known. This is radical in the extreme. Mr. Obama, along with his many acolytes are itching to get their hands on unchecked political power, are a danger to this nation’s survival.”
“America stop flirting with this guy because you are flirting with potential disaster.”

Obama has always been for clean coal through out the primaries. He even got razed for that from environmental groups.
Just 2 more days. I can’t wait until this is OVER.

Craner:
Wow, Kim and A Veteran merely criticized Obama’s position and said nothing about race.
Unbelievable. Talk about inclusiveness. All you have to do to be a racist is disagree with Obama on anything. Great.

I agree that it’s a bad example of why Obama is a disaster.
He’s a disaster because he is a communist.
Why isn’t ABC reporting on that?

On race I was taught there are good and bad in eveery race, creed, religion. I look at the person, not the color or sex.

It would be too funny if it wasn’t the truth that Obama supporters are blaming McCain for what Obama said.
Even if Obama gets elected there will be at least 4 years of Obama bashing because that’s exactly what the Democrats have done to President Bush. Heck with all this unity stuff.

Folks:
I just made a long post about Tapper’s bias, and it was deleted. No swearing or mean words, just logic and analysis.
ABC and TApper, paragons of censorship on behalf of Obama…………..

I live in Illinois and Obmama insulted the farmers because they grow corn which is made into surcrose and that makes children fat.

The Center for Responsive Politics calculates that, by Election Day, $2.4 billion will have been spent on presidential campaigns since January 2007, and an additional $2.9 billion will have been spent on 435 House and 35 Senate contests.
This $5.3 billion is a billion less than Americans will spend this year on potato chips.

One thing this election has shown me. Never again listen to ANY mainstream media. I will research for myself to find the truth.

Wade,
“The point is do you destroy an industry before it gets a chance to develop the technologies, the environmental goal will be that much more difficult to achieve.”
Nonsense! NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would spend money to develop something that they know will LOSE MONEY. Do it environmentally safe and within current legal paramaters, or stop wasting shareholder’s dough. No more scams. Stop blaming Obama for your lack of intelligence.
Obama/Biden 08!

I merely outlined Senator Obama’s qualifications as a constituional law professor, state senator and united states senator – plus the legislation he championed and committees he sat on and chaired – AND THAT GOT CENSORED.
So don’t think there’s an Obama bias on this site.

The Center for Responsive Politics calculates that, by Election Day, $2.4 billion will have been spent on presidential campaigns since January 2007, and an additional $2.9 billion will have been spent on 435 House and 35 Senate contests.
This $5.3 billion is a billion less than Americans will spend this year on potato chips.
Posted by: Facts Of Life
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What is the media doing with this money….Oh
I bet this gets censored.

Everything about the GOP is hate and smears, i can’t wait to see them completely wiped out of American politics.

This is what Republicans want for V.P.?
How pathetic, but then again, the Republican campaign isn’t too bright.
you betcha, wink wink, gosh darn it.
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C’mon, Jake. You edited this part out:
“You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.”
Hopetastic! /sarc

the same interview Obama says that his coal polcies will cause Skyrocketing electricity prices (49% of US source is coal)
Obama
You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.
scary stuff – hope the full impact gets out to voters
bye bye obama

“Barack Obama holds a significant lead over John McCain in the final days of Campaign 2008. The Pew Research Center’s final pre-election poll of 2,587 likely voters, conducted Oct. 29-Nov. 1, finds 49% supporting or leaning to Obama, compared with 42% for McCain; minor party candidates draw 2%, and 7% are undecided.”

Common Sense:
Uhh, yeah. Just keep telling yourself that I am not intelligent and that everything Obama says is right.
Obama’s statements are never problematic. He is always right…
Sleep, sleep…

pefro
The more tax breaks thay have the more
JOBS they will have.

obama’s coal comments don’t just stop there -
he also says it will lead to SKYROCKETING ELECTRICITY PRICES
(49% comes from coal)
read at
criminal

Hey liberals, guess who’s got all the guns?
In the end, you’ll never get away with it.

Obama is in 3 cities in Ohio today because he knows he is loosing ground.

To All here and everywhere.
I hope that when the election is over and regardless of who is elected in any position that all agree they now need to be held accountable and forced to be responsible to the american PEOPLE. We the people need to keep the pressure on Government to be responsible. It hasn’t been responsible for a very very long time.

Common Sense:
“NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would spend money to develop something that they know will LOSE MONEY”
That’s not true. Why have hybrid cars been built? The evil auto/oil conglomerate got taken over? No, it’s called consumer demand…plus tax breaks…
Same thing with coal…changes don’t happen overnight. It reminds me of that ridiculous movie What Ever Happened to the Electric Car? Oh, never mind, we have them now.
Again, what if you effectively mandated electric cars in the early 80′s?

Jane:
I would like to see more taxes on oil companies. They have been profiteering off of the backs of people like you and I – jacking up oil and gasoline costs and profits while we suffer.
Plus they are major contributors to pollution.
Plus, Bush and his pals are oil industry profiteers – and I have no respect for him and his Saudi and American oil buddies.

“Jane, did you do the math?
Exxons 3rd quarter profit was $14.8 Billion
dollars!!!! Placing this in retrospective, lets say
you made $50 K a year, divide this by
four makes it 12.5K quarterly. If your name
was Exxon you would owe the government
roughly $33.00 in taxes! Not bad, huh?”
tip of the hat to spacerook

Jane you seem to have willingly overlooked my point . ..
“They have been profiteering off of the backs of people like you and I – jacking up oil and gasoline costs and profits while we suffer.
Plus they are major contributors to pollution.
Plus, Bush and his pals are oil industry profiteers – and I have no respect for him and his Saudi and American oil buddies.”

oh Jane, you are so right . .. .
the oil companies (and the big oil families like BUSH and the SAUDI’s) are completely innocent, how could i have missed that . .

Obama is saying we need to put our energy in a cleaner coal technology. There are no details provided because he doesn’t know them. If he is elected as the leader, what he wants to do is to influence the industry to focus on cleaner technologies. He is putting his money where his mouth is, he believes that America is best at innovation. We can’t compete, if it is just pure cost of labor against other countries. America has always excelled when we’ve created the technologies that drive the whole world. Our workers are more productive compared to the rest of the world because of technological edge. Thanks to 8 years of investing this country’s energy in Iraq and oil profits, we are now lagging other countries in the area of technological innovation. We can lead again but we need to change our focus as a nation. The world needs the innovative American to come out and shake things up again. Ever wonder why in the last 8 years we have very little to show in terms of innovation? Hmmm, think about that! We need to challenge ourselves and I’m sure we can come up to it. Look the rest of the world has come up to our standards, mostly due to our generosity in sharing our way of life to them. It has been effective in that way. But to force our way of life on other people has never been our way. Iraq will not change because we force them to be democratic. And we keep their gov’t as our puppet. This approach never worked. It didn’t work for the British, Spanish, Romans and all other world powers. Why do we as Americans think it will change now? Foolish to think in that way. We have an opportunity to try something new, as the only world power, we can try something new, it is the very essence of the American spirit. Obama is challenging the coal industry in particular, why can’t we incent the people who work in this industry to produce better than what we have today. No, not to kill it but to challenge it. Hey, maybe he is wrong but isn’t it worth a try?! Isn’t that what we Americans are all about? We challenge the difficult problems and we overcome most of them. Some we loose but I believe we have very sharp people and I believe the country’s strength is in the individual ruggedness of our people. It is precisely tapping the strength of this nation and hopefully, we can show the world that we can come back as a nation. The world is waiting for us Americans to lead. To lead in a compassionate way, not some bulldog that barks orders to all and want everyone to follow. Not as arrogant fools but as intelligent and kind Americans. Hopefully, history will also document it that way. We are very capable of this! McCain or Obama, I just hope this country gets its spirit back. Somewhere along the way, we lost it. We are fat consumers mostly, we need to produce more and be ready to compete in this globally competitive world. Look, we exported most of these technologies and our own work ethics. Why can’t we get it all back?!

Rather than robocalls on the factual information on Obama intending to put these coal plants out of business, I hope the RNC or whomever actually put out ads on the TV in the battleground states starting this evening and all day tomorrow. It’s information they deserve when making their decision to vote. I don’t know of any other of his polices that would directly affect a group of states in such a negative manner, economically speaking. He’s talking about their ability to retain employment in what may be the biggest industry of their respective states. This is very, very, unfortunate for this handful of states, but hey, they government will take care of their needs ( assuming Obama is indeed elected). They only problem with that scenario is what the government decides those ” needs” will be…and will whoever is next in power will continue these reckless policies of Obamas. putting coal plants out of business will have a long lasting impact on so many families in these various states, well beyond the next four years…

Jane: “Tell me why you are voting for Obmama?
What has he DONE not SAID to make you vote for him”
I was impressed by the law he wrote to have confessions and interrogations in serious crimes videotaped. Originally promised a veto by the governor and opposed by the majority of the IL senate, when Obama was through it passed with a large majority and was signed into law. Today it is praised by the left for protecting innocents from overzealous police railroading and by the right for providing prosecutors with iron-clad evidence against the guilty who screw up under expert police questioning.
Your turn. What has John McCain DONE not SAID to make you vote for him? He has said an awful lot – usually futilely on the losing side of debates where his maverick position has no impact (when he tried to oppose the Bush tax cuts as a budget busting giveaway to the rich for example). When he does win an argument it is usually on bad legislation, such as his campaign finance law that he himself has made a mockery of by hosting $30k+ per person fundraisers (the money goes to the RNC Committee to Elect John McCain, so it is quite legal).
So, it’s an excellent question: What has John McCain DONE not SAID to make you vote for him?

And the Lord said to Stanley – “Behold within your womb my son Barack. For he shall lead the world as did my son Jesus and his mother Blessed Mary. He is the Messiah that will deliver those that believe unto me. He is my son”
Praise Barack, son of God, Brother of Jesue. He is among us and shall lead us. We are saved.
Say the rosary to Stanley tonight for she is holy.

The Republicans have nothing to offer but fear. Mccain and Obama support the same coal policy. Trying to distort him is also how Mccain tried to distort him on nuclear. Do you think there is anything like Clean coal? There is nothing like clean coal. Coal is carbon and will always emit Carbon dioxide. Obama believes if there is a way of making that coal clean without those emissions we should pursue it. Grow up. Stop distorting and attacking him to scare voters. he supports clean coal but as of now there is nothing like clean coal.

There’s a big hole in the cap and trade argument, ie that what Obama said was
innocuous because what he meant was the massive carbon taxes would only apply to new coal burning plants. If we take it that way, then his later statement that:
“That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel, and other alternative energy approaches”
If the carbon tax only applies to new plants and if the carbon fee is so high that any plant that is built would go “bankrupt” then where do these billions of dollars come from?

nasreem: “I real start having doubt about Obama at the last minutes”
I am really starting to have doubts about McCain supporters – what are you going to make up next? I suppose you heard a reliable source say Hitler’s brain in a jar bubbled support for Obama in morse code?
Have you heard of reality? In reality, a password-protected Al Quaida communications site was cracked and this posting found:
“”It will push the Americans deliberately to vote for McCain so that he takes revenge for them against al-Qaeda,” said the posting, attributed to Muhammad Haafid, a longtime contributor to the password-protected site. “Al-Qaeda then will succeed in exhausting America.”"
Much like in 2004, Al Qaeda is supporting the inept Republican.

I’m in Indiana and if I have to hear one more ABSURD McCain commercial of character assination I might kill myself.

Geon Lee: “Obama is the MOST LIBERAL senator…”
According to a single years rating. Do you know how liberal McCain was rated as for that year? Trick question: McCain showed up for so few votes the magazine did not feel they had enough data to even rank him.
Obama was rated liberal because while he was campaigning in the primaries he only really showed up for party base, red-meat votes. His record in IL (thousands of votes) is not extremely liberal, nor are his recent votes (don’t you remember him enraging his most liberal supporters by voting for the FISA and Patriot Act renewal?).
Think for a moment before mindless repeating hollow talking points.

Sarah Palin and John McCain want to stick with the old coal technologies. Just like McCain is old, they want old technologies.

Sep 25, 2008 … “We’re not supporting clean coal,” Mr. Biden responded.
Biden said it too.

Everyone shall see that Barack is the Savior we have been waiting for. The prayers of the poor and the suffering have been answered. Those that have plundered and pilfered, those that have run America like a den of thieves must now kneel to the Son of Man. God has sent his Son to save us.

“G*d D*mn America” — I am Barack Obama and I approve this message.

If you want soot-darkened skies over Pennsylvania, vote for John McCain and his old-style coal technology.

Common Sense, the lower gas prices is due to speculators pulling back on their theory of lack of supply in the futures because Obama, Reid and Pelosi allowed the ban on offshore drilling expire. Obama and Pelosi have already stated that if Obama is elected they will renew the ban.

Obama once again gets caught on tape makeing outrageous statements. When will people wake up and see this guy for the phony he is. It will take a generation to repair the damage that a 4 year obama administration will plague our nation with. We still suffer today from the stupid policies of the Carter administration.
Obama is a slogan not a President.

Common Sense:
Yes, I did ignore that part of your post…how is clean coal technology against current law? Sorry, I don’t understand…
It seems Obama would make such plants against the law, effectively…

A vote for McCain and Palin is a vote for soot in your baby’s mouth. A vote for Obama is a vote for clean air and rivers.

If you want coal plants belching black smoke over Pennsylvania, go right ahead and vote for McCain. I’ll stick to voting for Obama, a young man who understands the importance of clean technology.

If you want coal dust in your baby’s lungs, vote for McCain.

RAZOR ….UR SICK UR MESSIAH WANTS A CIVILLIAN ARMY.?????????????????WHY DIDNT GERMANY HAVE ONE IN THE 30′S

If you want your kids’ clothes covered in coal dust, vote for McCain and Palin. Obama will ensure my kids can breathe clean air and still keep our coal.

pefros:
I am totally aware of the crisis. However, a casual reading of US history shows that this is far from the worst our nation has seen.
Also, the problem was created in a bipartisan, and even non-political, manner, as well…bubble economic psychology has screwed up many economies even before there were republicans or democrats.
The difference is, you lay the blame solely with Bush. However, even SNL mocks the fact that democrats were largely to blame for a lot of the issues to do with the mortgage system.
I respect that you are passionate about your candidate. I find much to admire about Obama, particularly his personal story of success (achieved under four evil republican presidents, BTW).
However, I think his campaign suggests that all blame for everything lies with republicans, ignoring problems caused by democrats or both parties. I find this to be very black and white, un-nuanced thinking.
Clearly, Mr. Obama’s simplistic rhetoric has been devastatingly effective.

VOTE FOR LIFE!
JOHN MCCAIN.
Amazing grace! how sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.
’twas grace that taught my heart to fear,
And grace my fears relieved.
How precious did that grace appear
The hour I first believed.
Through many dangers, toils and snares
I have already come;
’tis grace hath brought me safe thus far
And grace will lead me home.
The lord has promised good to me
His word my hope secures;
He will my shield and portion be,
As long as life endures.
Yea, when this flesh and heart shall fail,
And mortal life shall cease,
I shall possess within the veil,
A life of joy and peace.
When we’ve been there ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun,
We’ve no less days to sing god’s praise
Than when we’ve first begun.

I hope Obama points out that McCain and Palin are for dirty air.

President Barrack Husein Obama – 8 years after 9/11. God help us!

What are you bunch of whiners/drama queens are going to do if Obama is elected on Tuesday? I am just curious what you will do on November 5th if he becomes our President.

The media will let you know what you need to hear or see. Don’t worry…..but one problem. I don’t see where I can link to the audio interview. I had to go to you tube to hear it.

Actually, what Obama is advocating in this speech is to develop advanced technology for coal industries so we can benefit from both energy and clean air. This is for the good of the nation. Similar to the federal regulation on the automotive industry, which was given a certain period to improve their gas mileage and exhaust for our good. Having say this, beware of John McCain robocall. They are people hiding behind a voice recorder and want to impure your thinking and mislead you.

Actually, what Obama is advocating in this speech is to develop advanced technology for coal industries so we can benefit from both energy and clean air. This is for the good of the nation. Similar to the federal regulation on the automotive industry, which was given a certain period to improve their gas mileage and exhaust for our good. Having say this, beware of John McCain robocall. They are people hiding behind a voice recorder and want to impure your thinking and mislead you.

Ha… I remember when the Republicans told everyone that the Democrats were making their energy bills high in California.
So we recalled the governor… privatized our energy…. and then paid more than ever.
(A side note: Notice how gas prices plummet immediately before election time. Somebody is looking out for the GOP.)

Doesn’t it worry anyone the extent to which the McCain campaign is taking statements out of context. What McCain and Palin are doing amounts to lying about their opponent. Every time someone swallows one of these ridiculous distortions it brings us closer to loosing the freedom that we in this country hold in such high regard.

COAL KILLS. Republicans, democrats, socialists, neocons, children. Coal kills indiscriminately. You have your head in the sand if you think coal is the future.
It is also clear that he was talking about any NEW coal plants.
The auto industry bitched and moaned over and killed any legislation that would force stricter emissions standards. Look at them now, dying. If they had been forced into it 10 years ago then they could be competitive with the imports of today.
Any real change hurts, but not nearly as bad as complacency.

A side note: Notice how gas prices plummet immediately before election time. Somebody is looking out for the GOP.)
Posted by: blip | Nov 2, 2008 6:44:53 PM
Yeah I noticed that. $2.07 a gal here in PA at the one gas station. Amazing isn’t it.

I love this…Common Sense now says falling prices are the result of an investigation into price controls. Okay, guess what? Any investigation was done under the Bush administration. Wouldn’t he have put the kibosh on that if he was so busy enriching his “oil buddies”? Also, it is doubtful that such an investigation, which resulted in no legislation or regulation, to my knowledge, affected the price of oil in Suadi over the last month, etc.
And, I am not saying that Bush caused the drop either, all I am saying is that oil prices are a function of a lot of different factors, not just who is in the White House…
Anyway, most Obama supporters I know want oil prices to skyrocket, anyway…
Look, Bush has not been great, but it is unbelievable how many twists and turns some will go through to not say one positive thing about Bush.

It happened in 2006 and 2004, too.
They spend a lot of money getting Republicans elected… they have to protect their investment.
They tinkered with energy prices in CA, during the recall election, too.

Yeah I noticed that. $2.07 a gal here in PA at the one gas station. Amazing isn’t it.
Posted by: Jwench | Nov 2, 2008 6:52:22 PM
Wish I could see that. Here in NY we have a democratic controlled state, we have more tax on our gas. About 70 cents a gallon, and have been told we will be 47 billion in debt over 4 years.

I don’t want gas prices to go up… I just think it is pretty lame that all year long they tell us that 4 bucks a gallon is the price of gas… and that it is is driven by the markets and blah blah blah…
But then every time elections roll around and the GOP has incumbents to protect, gas mysteriously dips.

Sutter197, others with the “out of context” argument.
Yes, do read the whole interview…he is suggesting that new coal plants (but old ones would be subject to the same cap) would be bankrupted because they could not afford the “tax” on the emissions.
The issue is that this is shortsighted because you can’t tax an industry out of existence that provides about 50% of our electricity before clean coal technology is feasible. And it’s not feasible yet.
Again, what would happen if all carbon emitting auto makers were taxed out of existence in the 1980′s? Electric cars, or no cars?
What will all the electric cars run on?

Obama lied on his vote being critical.—-
With Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee, R.I., providing the swing vote, the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee had a 9-9 stalemate on Senate bill 131, essentially tabling the legislation. Ten Republicans, seven Democrats and independent Sen. Jim Jeffords serve on the committee.
In a speech in Columbus, Ohio, on energy and environmental issues, President Bush urged Congress to pass the Clear Skies bill and a separate energy policy bill that has languished for nearly four years.

I can see that the paid Obamabot-commenters are trying their best spin their candidate’s clear words. But the reality is this robocall is PERFECTLY ACCURATE when taken in context.
Obama wants to drive most of the coal plants out of business with high taxes…so he can fund research for “renewable” energy sources in the distant future. I hope the Pennsylvania voters find out about this.

I love how those of you who don’t mine coal, or live in a town that depends on the paychecks of coal miners, are always ready to say “It’s ok, if the little guy suffers and pays for our “green” revolution”–while you all drive your SUV’s. Have you seen Al Goracle’s giagantic houseboat? Wonder how many carbon credits he buys to have that baby!
Coal can be clean, where have you people with the coal dust remarks been living?

I bet Obama really hates the Internet
He loved it when it was helping him.

regard the comment Posted by: Kim | Nov 2, 2008 6:49:50 PM signed by
Jason Kern
Michigan Tactical Officer’s Association
Michigan State Police
Executive Board Member.
Jason, some police officers do deserve to be treated that way. But I thought they were all at the University of Michigan’s Department of Public Safety. If that’s Barack’s feeling about those people — he may just get my vote. As for the rest of the military — I think you are over-generalizing and I am truly sorry for the reception you received. You probably deserve better. Unless of course you taught KiPike street their tactics – that would make you guilty of police misconduct — allegedly. It’s not like that in other states and in other military bases.

I BET OBAMA HATES THE INTERNET

John:
Nice catch on the Clear Skies…
Yes, all good things come from Obama’s…ego

A Veteran
You has better not vote for McCain either, then. He listens to the scientists just a s Obama does, and is also in favor of a cap and trade solution.

So Obama thinks that corporations that pollute should pay the real cost of the damage they are doing. Makes sense to me.
Posted by: jock59801 | Nov 2, 2008 7:16:40 PM
That’s just it. You can think for yourself. These other yahoos are told what to say. I think it is a good idea as well.

Jwench
It should be up to the city they are in to make them pay. Pay to that city. It should not have to be federally mandated at all.

Yea i dont get this mccain and obama share the same stance on coal. Whats going on here?

What do we know about this guy? Every day the news gets worse and worse. Obama accepted illegal contributions from his aunt. He wants to bankrupt the coal industry and put more tax on capital gains regardless of it getting more revenue. The only thing we know about him is how much he wants to keep everything about him controlled and secret.

Ok nitwits, McCan’t said the same thing, so get over it. And to all of you wishing Obama farewell, let’s just meet back here around 9 pm on Tuesday (yes, it will be over the then) so you can eat your crow. The republican/communist party rule is coming to an end so pack your guns away and get over it. The black man is coming home and quite frankly, it is for the overall good of this country-this way no black person has any reason to say they can’t and you can get comfortable with them. And for those of you who served in the military, I say thank you and I only wished I had done the same. Too bad they brain-washed you in the process. Just because you’re a democrat doesn’t mean you are against the military. It means that we care enough about you not to just throw you into a situation without ANY exit strategy (at the very least) for absolutely nothing. We lost a lot lives on 9/11 and lost even more in the useless, ensuing war. And where is bin laden? Four more years? Right.

McCain’s statement is different in that it acknowledges that new coal plants must be “ready” for clean coal, not that they should be already able to employ it, which they can’t, as it is prohibitively expensive, unless we all want to pay twice as much for coal-powered electricity.
Also, I would not be surprised if Obama’s energy policy taxed old plants as well.
The point, as always, is that Obama has made a sweeping statement that would have vast consequences for the economy…remember, under his plan, prices would necessarily skyrocket.
The other point is that Obama supporters will never admit when Obama says something foolish.
For example, what about his civilian security corps as big as the military?

Obama is against coal and will keep us from using one of our most valuable resources. McCain is eons ahead of Obama in an energy plan that works and works now. Clean coal technology is just one energy resource that we need here in the USA. We have a great abundance of coal and would produce coal for export which greatly helps reduce our trade deficeits. China is polluting the world and we will provide them with Clean Coal technology and make the world a far cleaner planet. Obama is wrong as wrong can be on energy and will cause gasoline to be $7.00 a gallon in short order because Pelosi and Reid also hate oil and coal and nuclear energy.

Obama is a radical.

And the ur-bama sheep say as they are led to slaughter. “The GOP is desperate” The truth is under ur-bama energy cost will rise, how about triple. Po-loony-osi the demo leader of the house has already said 6 dollar a gallon gas is ok and expect higher. As far as what ur-bama said I got to take him on his word I would be desperate if I didn’t, and his word says he will bankrupt the coal industry.

Er
where is the audio of McCain saying he will bankrupt existing coal companies. less than 2 days before the elction. I bet all those Swing States that need coal for jobs, elctricity and basics for living will have something to say to that.
This is a Flip and a Flop Obama can not talk his way out of.
Ah Say It Aint’t So Joe.
to joe the plumber = spread the wealth
2001 radio show = change constitution and spread wealth.
Jan 2008 lets fine coal companies to bankruptcy.
BYE BYE MICHELLE NOT MY BELLE

LIE
“I voted against the Clear Skies Bill. In fact, I was the deciding vote — despite the fact that I’m a coal state and that half my state thought that I had thoroughly betrayed them. Because I think clean air is critical and global warming is critical.
TRUTH
With Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee, R.I., providing the swing vote, the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee had a 9-9 stalemate on Senate bill 131, essentially tabling the legislation. Ten Republicans, seven Democrats and independent Sen. Jim Jeffords serve on the committee.
Hell was he even on the committee? I have been looking for his name as part of the committee and can not find it.

First, McCain and Obama have the same stance, so you insane McCainiacs need to stop being hypocrites. Secondly, if current coal technologies can’t contain pollution then sorry – those plants need to close even if it means jobs being lost. You don’t like paying welfare so others can live off you, right? Well, polluting plants negatively impact the health of others and it’s ridiculous that others should suffer so someone else can have a job (find other work, even if it means moving out of your comfort zone). If the technology is out there, or at least POTENTIALLY out there (and we’re an innovative country, so it is) for clean coal then we should do what needs to be done to get the techonology in place. And I’m ok with paying higher taxes to get us there. I’ll do my part even if you self absorbed anti-tax yahoos aren’t.

It seems we could sum up Mr. Obama’s energy policies–no to nuclear, no to clean coal ( 2 things that will bring relief to energy supply and job creation in a very timely manner), YES to large dividends for oil (H.R. 6, CQ Vote #152). As he totally misrepresents himself as against the oil companies, and actually lies about McCain’s position on these taxes (see WSJ “Obama’s ‘$4 Billion for Exxon’ Myth” as well as above Bush bill McCain voted against), everyone just sits and nods and smiles. Why is this man so against easing our energy crunch and against creating jobs? I’m never going to be able to comprehend the ignorance people have allowed themselves to revel in.

From reading the above article it seems to me that ABC has just taken the Obama campaign’s word that “the Man” wouldn’t say such a thing. His history in the Senate would imply differently. Buy just keep your heads in the sand, as you have for the last year or so.

There must be some here from a state that does not have a coal plant.
I live in between two each about fifteen miles on
each side of my House.
I drive by one everyday.
I never see any smoke.
There may be a little steam own a cool day.
Most do not know what they are talking about as usual.
I think to many have watched those old Black and Whit westerns and are thinking of the Old coal trains.
This is 2008 not 1898.
I work for a company that sells Material to Coal Powered Electric Plants being Built.
Ever new Plant is a Leap ahead over the last one.
Technology continues getting better on each new unit.
We are talking of Thousands of workers making Good Money.
We can get out of our banking Problems if we allow all the coal plants that are on the drawing board today.
They do not pay McDonald type wages.

ON THE COAL THING HE SAID, ‘Posted by PRP158 at 08:07 PM : Nov 02, 2008
+ report abuse
FL_Vet,
“Please don”t plan on voting for McCain – he supports the same Cap & Trade plan on carbon emissions that Obama does. Dirty coal burning plants would have to buy more carbon credits than clean coal burning plants would. As the credits got more expensive over time, the out-moded energy providers (not the coal industry)would come under financial pressure. The coal industry could sell more than they do today, particluarly if they help energy providers develop carbon sequestration technology. You should know this (if you are in the coal industry – unless all you do is sell Kingsford Charcoal).”

Rod says,
“I drive by one everyday.
I never see any smoke.
There may be a little steam own a cool day.
Most do not know what they are talking about as usual.”
Wow, so you can tell how much pollution and CO is put in the environment by just looking! You must be worth millions, just imagine you replacing all that expensive equipment that measures pollution!

God I hate what the Republican Party has become! I’m glad I left the Party but I still hope they jettison the know-nothing wing so I can maybe come back some day. In the meantime I have voted for Obama.

This just went to the RNC, GOP and numerous news agencies. I can not wait until it makes news all over how much of a lier Obama is.
These swing stataes will flip to McCain in a hurry when this gets out.
BYE BYE MICHELLE NOT MY BELLE
How can Obama be the deciding vote, as the first sentence in his interview says below? When it is well documented that Republican Sen. Lincoln Chafee, R.I., Provided the swing vote.
The media needs to call him on this and many other things about his past.
LIE
“I voted against the Clear Skies Bill. In fact, I was the deciding vote — despite the fact that I’m a coal state and that half my state thought that I had thoroughly betrayed them. Because I think clean air is critical and global warming is critical.
TRUTH
A central disagreement was whether the bill — originally aimed at reducing the emissions of acid-rain-causing sulfur dioxide, smog-forming nitrogen oxides, and toxic mercury from coal-fired power plants and other industries — should also address carbon dioxide emissions linked to global warming. That issue cost the Republican majority Chafee’s crucial vote, said Sen. George V. Voinovich (R-Ohio).
“I voted against the Clear Skies Bill. In fact, I was the deciding vote — despite the fact that I’m a coal state and that half my state thought that I had thoroughly betrayed them. Because I think clean air is critical and global warming is critical.

Some of us will have to get in a “collective frame of mind” if Obama wins. It’s hard to go from self-reliant and responsible to back to the cradle. Hope this modified version of “She’ll be coming round the mountain” song helps.
He’ll be coming round 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue when he comes
He’ll be coming round 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue when he comes
He’ll be coming round 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
He’ll be coming round 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
He’ll be coming round 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue when he comes
Gonna have the media and inexperience in his pocket when he comes
Gonna have the media and inexperience in his pocket when he comes
Gonna have the media and inexperience in his pocket
Gonna have the media and inexperience in his pocket
Gonna have the media and inexperience in his pocket when he comes
He’s have a righteous wind and change the world when he comes
He’s have a righteous wind and change the world when he comes
He’s have a righteous wind and change the world
He’s have a righteous wind and change the world
He’s have a righteous wind and change the world when he comes
We’ll have free health care, fair taxes & more programs when he comes
We’ll have free health care, fair taxes & more programs when he comes
We’ll have free health care, fair taxes & more programs
We’ll have free health care, fair taxes & more programs
We’ll have free health care, fair taxes & more programs when he comes
Oh we’ll salute and genuflect him and Rev Wright when they come
Oh we’ll salute and genuflect him and Rev Wright when they come
Oh we’ll salute and genuflect him and Rev Wright
Oh we’ll salute and genuflect him and Rev Wright
This is what we voted for into office so we all got what we wanted
And in America we’re now living Orwell’s novel “1984”………………………

At this point, McCain is so desperate he would throw his mother under the bus in order to win the election. Obama/Biden ’08!

That’s all the Republicans are good at:
1. scare tactics
2. deceiving tactics
That’s how we are led to Iraq war, a war
that costs us thoudsands of life and
100+ billion a year.
This must come from Rove, the deceiver.

Did BO say that ALL carbon footprints would be taxed or at least looked at? does tht mean if I burn wood in my stove that I am leaving a carbon footprint and that I can be taxed, jailed, shutdown, sued?

McCain didnt throw his grandmother under the bus, he threw his first wife under the bus after she experienced some horrible medical challenges. Man of honor my but.

Do you know why they divorced, no you do not. You suspect a lot of things, but can not prove anything.
A lot of people get divorced, coming back form being in a POW camp for over 5 years may have been a little tough. Cut the man some slack.

The amount of people who obviously didn’t read the article before they commented… sad. And to think…. they get a vote too.
Sounds like a good plan to me. They pay a tax for releasing carbon into the air, and we put that money right back into reducing demand for coal plants. That is about as good as a plan gets right there. Reduce dependancy, increase the cost to operate, definately a gateway to green technologies, which the rest of the world is heavily investing in as well, if you haven’t been paying attention.

So some people are here still spewing hate. Fox news has already debunked the story. They even corrected Sarah Palin for once that John Mccain supports the same policy. Go to Fox news and read the story yourself

Cut McCain some slack? Considering little of his own shady past is being overlooked by the MSM because he’s a “war hero” (ie, his family name pulled some strings even though he crashed some planes even before the crash that made him a POW), no – I will not cut him some slack. Why don’t some of you anti-Obama types cut Obama some slack? If you’re willing to offer excuses for McCain’s behavior, how about Obama being abandoned by his father? No, I don’t think that qualifies Obama for a free ride – just like I don’t think tough times excuses McCain for screwing over the wife who stood by him while he was a POW. Not when he’s interviewing for the top job in the world.

I am beginning to understand why Obama was so frantic about early voting! Twenty-seven states are somehow involved in the coal industry. Clean coal technology is several years away, it is a nice thing to talk about and something to persue but in the mean time we shouldn’t tax the industry so they go bankrupt. Can you imagine the hardship this would cause. We get almost 50% of our energy as a nation from coal. Obama may give us a tax break but it would be spent covering the taxes on our energy so poof, there it goes!

People don’t understand the importance of preserving a health and safe environment…it’s not for us, it for our children…I can’t imagine that a day will come that people will need to wear gas mask…or air needs to be filtered….
let’s save this earth for our children! Imagine this earth as your house and you left your car engine on in your garage and it’s emitting carbon monoxide and all you have is a CO monitor….

Is this a point?
* Set rigorous standards for emissions
* Let the market determine
* Let Technology and entrepreneurs pursue the best approach
First he will set rigorous standards enforsed by what? Previous statement he said taxes. I just don’t understand his talk, call me daft but I like people who don’t state one thing and then be vague or use inuendo to drive their point home.

So you think Red States pay their fare share? Check out the Tax Foundations ranking of how much each state received in federal taxes as of 2005 (most recent I could find, but I’m sure it hasn’t changed much). Compare the states receiving under $1 per capita with those receiving as high as $2 per capita and match it up against the red state/blue state map from the 2004 elections (since that’s the most recent we have to go by). Then, do some more research and you’ll see that most of the top 10 states that receive the LEAST federal money are among the highest earners and so highest tax PAYERS. Even if the unemployment rate goes up in blue states, it just means fewer of us blue staters are carrying your welfare-loving selfs.

John, guess you read differently. They mentioned Mccain’s support for the same cap and trade policy and then wrote Ted Strickland reply to Palin’s message.

Some people are saying they dont understand Obama’s statements. Thats why they need to vote for Obama. At least with the four thousand dollars yearly tuition supplement, they may be able to get a good education.

What kind of reporting is this? How about describing the candidates positions on clean coal technology?

Whoever believes that this Robocall has any integrity to it is one or more of:
1. A moron
2. Ignorant
3. Brainwashed
4. Will always side with Republicans no matter what they do
Period!
I know I am right. I know the Robocall misrepresents Obama’s position because I can read and understand basic English.

pecanpii: Yes, Russia is building energy coalitions. Very smart of them. Unlike like the shoot from the hip Bush-McCain types who have undermined the coalitions we’ve built around the world over the past 8 years.

Hopefully, all the people who are out of work (or about to be), as well as those who have lost homes, pensions, health care, Trillions in retirement funds, and the ability to send children to higher education, will remember what happened under the Bush-Cheney, McCain-Gramm administrations. CEOs like McCain adviser Carly Fiorina got a 40 million dollar parachute for laying off thousands. Even now, CEOs are scheduled for 70 Billion in bonuses this year, much of it for execs in bailed out companies. In other words the GOP way is to make the rich get super rich and the Middle Class get jobless. So when you get those nasty robocalls, even if they tell you Barack Obama came from Mars, just remember. They are distractions trying to make you forget what the callers have already done to you, stabbed you in the back. We need someone who cares for the Middle Class. That is Barack Obama.

A few days ago, snow fell as the House of Commons debated Global Warming, the first October fall in the metropolis since 1922. They debated global warming for SIX HOURS while it snowed outside! Weather bunny and inventor of the internet Al Gore projected two degree centigrade rise in global temperature. The Climate Change Bill pledged the UK would reduce its carbon dioxide emissions by 80 per cent by 2050. Snobama is proposing higher taxes, higher fuel costs and a federal bureau of snowflake counting.

So Obama’s in favor of clean coal which will create more jobs, not fewer. And of course, the nasty robocalls just keep on coming. I’ve always said the GOP will throw every nasty distortion it can in the last few days when those distortions can’t be answered. Just remember, we are in the midst of a GOP depression. If we allow ourselves be Swiftboated into electing another Bush-Cheney, which is what McCain-Palin is, we will get more of the same. The rich get super rich and the Middle Class get jobless. If you want to know what you will get with McCain-Palin, look at what you got with Bush-Cheney.

McCain graduated from the Naval Academy fifth from the bottom of his class, 894th out of 899. The only reason he got into the Naval Academy was because his father was an admiral.

Ice is not melting in the North Pole region. It has more snow and ice this year than is has had in several years.
God you guys believe everything you here.

Aside from watching FOX NEWS, give yourself some education about global warming…watch Discovery Channel from time to time!

Antarctic snowfall exhibits substantial variability over a range of time scales, with consequent impacts on global sea level and the mass balance of the ice sheets. To assess how snowfall has affected the thickness of the ice sheets in Antarctica and to provide an extended perspective, we derived a 50-year time series of snowfall accumulation over the continent by combining model simulations and observations primarily from ice cores. There has been no statistically significant change in snowfall since the 1950s, indicating that Antarctic precipitation is not mitigating global sea level rise as expected, despite recent winter warming of the overlying atmosphere.
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/313/5788/827

Discovery Channel is for Kids, get some real facts.
Google 2008 snowfall in antartic

So, you select which ones you read…
I can’t understand why CONSERVATIVES are not FOR EARTH CONSERVATION….
Ooopps~ I know why…it’s againts “Drill baby drill”…Oil companies are fueling the Republican Campaign…and believing in global warming means lesser profit….

Obama is a fraud.
He lies to coal country in Ohio, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Indiana.
There is going to be unexpectedly huge turnout on Tuesday.
Many folks who never vote will crush Obama and elect McCain.
Obama never defeated Hillary in a big swing state that relies on the coal industry.
You moron libs should have nominated Hillary.

If McCain wins, it’s good for me…my salary will increase and my tax will be lower!
I work for an oil company making more than $250k a year….
But I am for OBAMA!

Obama has been his own worst enemy
Tells Joe The Plumber he wants to spread the wealth.
Then attacks a man who just asked a question when Obama came to his house.
Also a radio talk show interview surfaces with Obama stating he wants to change the Constitution to spread the wealth.
Now we have Obama saying in another interview, how he wants to bankrupt the coal industry.
OH lets not forget his Auntie, who is an illegal alien, livng in a slum in Boston.
Last the fact he lied in that Jan 2008 interview about coal, saying he was the one Senator who blocked the vote. When in fact it was another Senator. Because at that time poor Barry was a junior senator, not heading up anything.
Yes as a true Republican, I sent the last fact to the RNC, GOP, and about 50 news stations and news papers.
Morning HeadlineS, OBAMNATION LIES IN INTERVIEW
I have done my civil duty to keep that Idiot American hating man out of the White hOuse.

I think this is the October suprise a couple days too late. I have been reading the blogs on news papers in coal states. And those people are pis@ed LOL. Many of them did not vote early. So that would be West Virginia, Ohio, Pa, Virginia, Kentucky. Those are the only ones I have read thus far LOL. Haha obama you liying fruad. Man he said a lot of crap in San Fran. As far as the rest of America? He said that Energy will go sky hight. Well folks that affects the rest of us. Poor,middleclass and the rich. Just like Mickey Dees I am loving it!

Its the sun that effects are weather. If anything its getting cooler. We barely had a summer here. We had record snowfall last winter. Global warming is a farse and 30,000 scientist agree
Obama wants to bring the down the US to a 3rd world status. Ask yourself WHY?

Thanks Adam for admitting that. I know many African Americans are stayiing silent for the same reasons as us EuroAmericans. We are all afraid of the back last and being called names. I am just upset that obama takes your vote for granted.

Lemmings for Obama …. I do not care what he says …. We need to elect Barack Obama …. We need to be Socialistic … We need govt to lead us because they have the educators instead of people that have worked leading us .. coal is dirty .. let china, mexico, south america, and africa do the polution big time instead of us just a little bit … Al gore you are my 2nd biggest hero after Obama … Barack knows more about everything then anyone else in the World

Lets see, 49% of our electricity comes from coal… So lets bankrupt the industry that feeds half of our households with electricity and make us more dependent on foreign oil… Makes sense for oil companies. Go BO, bankrupt the country I always wondered what North Korea looked like at night…

Watch his words and decide for yourself.
He wants to bankrupt the coal industry and raise the rates on electricity for everyone. Sounds great. Another great plan.

I can’t believe he said that we can’t use nuclear because we don’t know how to store it. Just call the French, they & most other Europeans countries have been using nuclear for over 30 years & it represents well over 50% of their energy. Just pick up the phone. I swear he thinks we are stupid.

THIS is the dialogue for this important election?
There are REAL issues here. Why are we foaming at the mouth like this. PLEASE folks. THis man may well be our president. And if he is, it will be because he deliberately considers ALL the evidence and works hard to come to a consensus on a position that will be best for our country.
It’s one thing to disagree with his conclusions and another the smear and denegrate. Such denegrating tactics are equally disgusting from BOTH sides. But Obama has stuck MUCH closer to policy issues and has shown much better judgement over the course of this campaign. His thoughtful words on Coal are just one more example of that.

Obama further said more importantly in the interview in SF, which was not quoted in this article, was: “You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.
McCain also worries about global warming, but he would not make people’s energy costs go up like this. Lets push more people into foreclosure.
The quote above are Obama’s words. You can’t get around that.
I just can’t believe what poor research has been done all around.

Coal official calls Obama comments ‘unbelievable’
11/2/2008 4:37 PM
By Chris Dickerson -Statehouse Bureau
CHARLESTON – At least one state coal industry leader said he was shocked by comments Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama made earlier this year concerning his plan to aggressively charge polluters for carbon and greenhouse gas emissions.
“His comments are unfortunate,” Chris Hamilton said Sunday, “and really reflect a very uninformed voice and perspective to coal specifically and energy generally.”
Hamilton noted other times Obama and vice presidential candidate Joe Biden have made seemingly anti-coal statements.
“In Ohio recently, when Joe Biden said ‘not here’ about building coal-fired power plants — this is exactly what will happen,” Hamilton said. “Financing won’t be directed here. It will all go aboard for plants elsewhere in the world. The United Sates is importing more coal today from Indonesia, South Africa and Colombia than we ever have.
“If we’re going to create a situation where coal-fired power plants are at that much of a disadvantage, there will be new ones built. But as Biden said, just not here.”
Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s state director said Obama’s statements are troubling, especially for West Virginians.
“I think this clearly shows the attitude the Obama-Biden ticket has toward coal,” Ben Beakes said Sunday. “Rhetoric is cheap, but behind closed doors what they tell their supporters – that’s what we have to take as gospel.
“They’re definitely not friends of coal.”
Beakes noted other examples of Obama and Biden making seemingly anti-coal statements, such as in February when Obama said he’d like to tax “dirty energy” such as coal and natural gas.
CAN WE SAY OBAMA IS GOING DOWN THE COAL CHUTE

OBAMA WILL TAKE THE U.S. BACK INTO THE DARK AGES
The blogs are buzzing with this video of how Obama will bankrupt coal fired power plants.
So, what does that mean then?
Luckily, it is something that can actually be calculated, from figures obtained at a website that the Government that Obama is a part of, The Energy Information Administration.
His plan to Cap and Trade is basically an emissions tax, that will be levied on the power plants themselves, for the Carbon Diode (CO2) greenhouse gas they emit, and then this charge will inevitably be passed on to the consumers.
In my last post and in earlier posts I explained exactly how this was to be done, and calculted that this charge will amount to an increase in your power bill, for each and every one of you by a factor of 40%.
Only 35% of all power is consumed in the residential sector, so that will be the personal impost to all of you. The remaining 65% of all power used in the Industrial, Commercial, and Transport sectors will also be increased by the same amount, and that will also then be passed on to consumers in the increase of all goods amd all services, so in effect, a double whammy increase across the board.

Palin planted Joe The Not Plumber in Obama’s local rally in Ohio. They seem to have known each other in Alaska. Isn’t that so Sarah, the unethical and abuse of Power disgusting governor, mayor and OMG even PTA President. Scary. McCain is loyal to Communist Vietnam, and Palin is loyal to Communist Russia. She can see Russia from her house.

No, it was not taken out of context. He also says that under his plan, electricity prices will skyrocket. Then he has the nerve to say “yes, there is going to be some increase in electricity rates on the front end, but that over the long term, because of combinations of more efficient energy usage, changing lightbulbs and more efficient appliance, but also technology improving how we can produce clean energy, the economy would benefit.” So we’ll wreck the already fragile economy in the short run, but never fear, use those new lightbulbs and buy a new energy star refrigerator and you’ll be fine in the long run.
Can we afford to elect this guy? No, not really.

I live in a state that would die without the coal industry.
Not in 5 years, 10 years but today!!!
How dare all you leftist, socalist extremists out there support a man whose policies that would bankrupt my state and friends because you want someone who shares your radical beliefs in the WH?
We don’t deserve that!
If Obama wins on Tuesday, that will be the start of our total destruction as a Nation.
God help us all!!!!

I seen an article where Obama head quarters have hundreds of bloggers on there payroll to go to sites just like this to write everything and anything to confuse the opposing view. I can see a few are here. Especially all the short one liners that have absoultely no substance or thought to them. Itsn’t time for you guys to clock out, or you working overtime? So obvious

Another fear tactic built on half truths. Its time for a change – and I believe Obama is about to win based on his ground game. If O wins Flordia – it’s over.

Let me see if I have this right!
Obama says he will spread the wealth.
Then he says that’s not what he said!
Obama listens to his Pastor, Friend and MENTOR for 20 years, but doesn’t know that he is a radical!
Obama says he will tax the coal industry into bankruptcy.
Then he says he didn’t say it!
Obama tells Joe the Plumber that he wants to spread the wealth. I guess it was a CONSPIRACY that Obama was talking to residents and The Nasty Republicans just happened to place Joe the Plumber in a spot, ON HIS STREET, where Obama would have to talk to him.
If he doesn’t want to be asked tough questions, maybe he should only talk to the Los Angeles Times who is hiding an tape of him making anti-semitic comments in front of his terrorist friends! What a JOKE OBAMA IS!!!

EMD: Explain to me how John McCain wold not raise people’s energy costs. All I have heard from John McCain is that he plans an endless war (but not the cost) he is going to annialate the federal budget (but not what he is going to cut, because that might cost him a state), he believes in climate change and we must act to reverse it (but not what he would do to reverse it or how much that would cost) that he has a new health plan that will shift health care from employers to insruance companies (but not how many millions of Americans will be without insurance). No corporation would stand for this. No state legislature would stand for this – and the American people should not stand for it either. We should be told what we will lose when McCain becomes President – besides our health insurance, any hope of allies, and trillions more dollars on war. I want to see the money. John McCain has done a good job of hiding it – but look at his plans – and ask yourself where the money for cancer research, and education, and roads, and training, and bridges, and health care and libraries is going to come from. Because it is not coming from John McCain. He wouldn’t even vote to put more police officers on the street. It is all going to be cut – along with hundreds of thousands of jobs.
And in the coming recession – you better ask where our safety net is going to come from – because it is not coming from John McCain – he doesn’t believe in a safety net for regular working Americans. He has a safety net all his own.

The hystercal, hate-filled, anti-Obama comments here reminds me of those fights you see on the NFL football fields caused by the team that knows it’s been whipped.

What this doesn’t include is another alarming comment by Obama. He says that under his plan, electricity rates for all Americans would “necessarily skyrocket”.

As a scientist interested in climate and material culture change…in reviewing the comments of both sides here, I am profoundly depressed by the general level of public understanding of the issues. Both Obama and McCain intend to keep feeding our addiction to planet destroying fossil fuels and hope for the best, they both know better but are dependent on the contributions of the polluters. In spite of the efforts of government employed scientists to calm fears to quiet things, there is considerable evidence suggesting global warming is happening faster and nastier than predicted. If the level of public discourse is reflected by this blog we are screwed.

Remember, Palin has been found to be unethical, has abused her powers, uses government funds to pay for her babysitting for her children to stay in high priced hotels, above per diem of Alaska’s budget. She changed government paperwork without approval. That’s illegal and a federal offense that is impeachable, a fine, and possible prison. So you want this type of person as your type of President — one who steals from the government, and hides it. The reason we haven’t seen her medical records yet, she hasn’t found anyone to defraud her records. Again, that is a federal offense, and termination of employment is immediate, and leads to indictments of obstruction of justice.
You don’t believe in socialism but you believe in dictatorship and Communistic Republican Right Guard regime. Wow! You like corruption, and that is telling that you are a person who does corruption. People of likeness stict together.

Goodness John: You don’t recognize the Dark Ages that we are currently in? McCain.Palin want to continue the same Bush.Cheney failed policies. The Dark Ages were the 50 years before the 1st millineum. Everything stopped because they all thought they would die. So they just didn’t do anything, no art, no building, no nothing. McCain.Palin want to continue Bush tax cuts and continue distributing the wealth to the rich and rich corporations. McCain.Palin want the middle class and poor to continue giving their income and possessions to the rich, or better known as Communist Republican Right Guard regime.
John you must like high gas prices, high energy prices, deflated 401K funds, fallen investments, bankrupt banks, a tenth zillion dollar treasury debt, and home owners losing their homes, can’t get loans or borrow short term loans to make payroll? Yes it’s a lovely day in the neighborhood according to you John.
McCain.Palin aren’t going to make changes, you know that John. So, let’s get out of these Dark Ages, and elect Obama.Biden with Clinton for change 2008.
If we continue with Bush.Cheney, our country will die and fade away in these dark ages. Where you see McCain.Palin, you see Bush.Cheney.
Get real. Be smart, be wise and knowledgeable, and elect the best of the best — Obama.Biden with Clinton for change 2008.

Mr. Obama is really showing his “sensitive side” to those middle income coal miners and their families, isn’t he? He was talking to his elitest friends in SF AGAIN!!! This is not good for Mr. Obama. God is good all the time and He wants us to have a great leader who actually cares. I was raised in the Ohio, WVA, Kentucky area and went to high school in PA. I can tell you that the good folks there will not put up with Mr. Obama’s lies and nonsense. Can’t wait ’til Wed.!!

Wow, Gig51, you’re one bright light on that chandelier.

Chavez says Obama win could spur talks with US
Published: 11/2/08, 11:45 PM EDT
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) – Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that he is willing to talk with Barack Obama if the Democratic candidate wins Tuesday’s election.
Chavez says that relations between Venezuela and the U.S., now at their lowest point in years, could improve in an Obama presidency.
During a televised speech, Chavez said he would meet with Obama only “on equal and respectful terms.”
Alejandro Miyar, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, told The Associated Press on Sunday night that “Hugo Chavez does not govern democratically and relations between our countries will not improve unless Venezuela respects democracy and the rule of law. That is the clear message that Barack Obama will deliver to Venezuela as president.”
http://my.att.net/s/editorial.dll?pnum=1&bfromind=7406&eeid=6187454&_sitecat=1505&dcatid=0&eetype=article&render=y&ac=1&ck=&ch=ne&rg=blsadstrgt&_lid=332&_lnm=tg+ne+topnews&ck=

When the government forced the automakers to install expensive pollution equipment on cars and forced the coal burners to instal scrubbers on smokestacks, there were predictions of economic doom. It never happened. Instead we have ignorant clowns like John Stossel and Rush Limbaugh berating environmentalists because the air is now cleaner. It’s absurd. Sequestering carbon from coal-fired generators is a tall order, but what it would do is cause the price of electricity to reflect it’s true cost to the environment. Right now consumers are getting a free ride. The damage fossil fuels are doing to the atmosphere will have cataclysmic economic consequences for the peoples of the earth: destructive sea level rise, expansion of desserts over much of the western United States, loss of many of America’s best agricultural lands, etc. Your government has been lying to you for eight straight years. Global warming is not a hoax. In all honesty, this will become readily apparent whether McCain is elected or Obama. Both men know the public has lied to by the current administration, and both men accept that the above consequences are real and will happen. Now listen to the dummies start squealing.

Lisa seems to be enthralled with Obama’s “educatoin” for this country. His plan was written for him by Bill Ayers, and that is to teach socialism in school. Maybe it was also written by his hate-monger MENTOR Rev. Wright. What an example he sets for our children! Obama was a “community organizer” better known as an ÄCORN teacher of fraud. There is one big difference between the Chief Executive Officer of a country and a community organizer and that is he lacks executive experience. Hence he is a “CO” and unqualified to be a “CEO”. What a fraud and JOKE OBAMA IS!!
MINE BABY MINE!!!! Obama can leave us hard working people in the coal states alone and go back to Chicago and try to do some community organizing to try to reduce the crime there. There were more killings in Chicago this summer than Americans killed in Iraq!! Chicago apparently didn’t benefit from his “örganizing” there. OH, I forgot, Chicago has been under democratic rule for many years!

JR: Yes. Obama’s position on clean coal and greenhouse emissions and McCain’s position on clean coal and greenhouse emissions are almost identical. I just read them.
Remember what the bottom feeders of the internet did with the sick kid who scratched herself up in PA? “Maimed by black man because she worked for McCain!!!” I wonder what fantasies they will dream up tomorrow.

To all those who are bashing Obama’s remarks are we reading the same article? If so you might want to check your IQ level! You are really not able to process information and you making very stupid inferences. Grow up. Elevate the debate.

I am certainly sympathetic to Senator Obama’s aims. But since, by his own admission, any technological advances in clean energy are years away; he puts ideology ahead of American jobs. The issue is important to thousands of
Americans who rely on coal, or jobs dependent on coal, including railroads. The issue is debatable. Again, Jake, the use of robo calls to highlight one side of an argument doesn’t seem objectionable- its seems well political. I notice the press didn’t object when he said Senator Mcain wanted to keep the troops in Iraq for a hundred years- which also was taken out of context. Since this is an issue that may have pros and cons on each side, why do you begin your article with robo calls. Does this imply that somehow raising the issue is underhanded?

Beware – hopefully most of you know that the information you read is not actually from a person. Chances are excellent that anyone who signs, “Ohio Coal Guy” or “So_Cal_Dude” is a party representative trying to “blend in”. Anyhow, I assume you are all well schooled on such matters.

Just like an Obama supporter to attack peoples IQ (a personal attack) just because Obama’s comments are called into question.
Why don’t you blame us for saying “I don’t look like the other presidents on the dollar bills”? Afterall, you want to blame everything else on the Republicans. Obama is the one who has always injected race into the campaign.
Remember his grandmother was a “typical white person”.
Obama is bi-racial, but have you ever heard him call himself a white person? No, because he wants to keep race an issue in the campaign!
I will be glad when he is sent back on November 4th to his political hacks like the Daileys in Chicago! Now there is a bunch of fine example setting friends of his!
Keep Obama out of Ohio and out of the White House so he won’t bankrupt our coal and healthcare industry!

Quote from Obama: “You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.”
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=e46U2Gnzpr
Perfect! What our ailing economy needs – HIGHER ELECTRICITY PRICES!

Difference is that McCain is not a silly dreamer that will shut down the coal industry that provides tens of thousands of jobs and HALF of our electricity.
Obama will.

Obama says right here that he’s opposed to coal and nuclear power, because they aren’t “clean” enough.
Where does that leave us? Only with wind/solar which is MUCH more expensive to build/operate than coal and even nuclear.
There are plenty of Democratic legislatures, why is solar only 0.1% of electricity, and wind 1%?
Uh…maybe because they’re too freakin’ expensive and no one wants their utility bill increased.

For those of you doubting the interview and the questions asked (ie: “The One HAD to be taken out of context” crap) the entire interview with The San Francisco Chronicle can be seen/heard here:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/month?blogid=42&year=2008&month=01
Scroll down, 2nd article. First recording at about 23:20 is when he is asked about coal.

So Obama’s plans for new power plants are: wind/solar.
Wind is 1% of electricity, solar is 0.1%.
Why? THEY ARE DOUBLE the cost to build, and DOUBLE/TRIPLE (in the case of solar) the cost of coal-fired plans to operate.
I’m sure everyone will just love having their utility bills doubled.
Won’t you?

Well if anyone would read the information on Clear Skies legislature it is the very same thing Obama says he is for. Yet, he voted against Clear Skies? Either he is for or against. But this rhetoric, as with everything else that has spewed from his mouth, is nothing but a lot of back peddling and double talk.
Nothing but more smoke screens. That’s okay. This time next year everyone that was so hyped over BHO will be wanting to impeach him! Mark my words!

Again. Obama’s position on climate change, emmissions and clean coal and McCain’s position on climate change, emmisions and clean coal are almost identical. What part of this is so hard to get? I guess it is this: when Obama takes a position, he tries to tell you the truth – what it is really going to cost – and nothing is free. When McCain takes exactly that same position he weasles around and NEVER says what the cost to regular Americans will be. Like his position on the war in Iraq – how many times has he been asked how much his plan will cost, how many American lives, how it can possibly done without a draft? Maybe one times – he’s been asked this question – and his answer is always the same… something along the lines of “I know but I’m no telling.” Well that sounds a lot like George Bush to me. Things don’t come free. I don’t want to spend trillions of more American dollars making a government in Iraq that is just like Iran -a Sharia government that is religious.
And where is all this baloney about Obama wanting to destroy the coalminers coming from? Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin, who said today that we were winning our wars in Iraq and Iran. Did anybody else know we were at war with Iran besides Sarah? This is somebody we are supposed to believe? She lied flat-out about her own ethics investgation. She doesn’t know the difference between the truth and a lie. And we are supposed to believe Sarah Palin the weekend before an election? This just suddenly plops in her lap? Right. There used to be men who could see straight through that kind of baloney.

Lisa, you said: “Thank God this has come out in the light. We can barely pay our electric bills as it stands now. This is the straw that broke the camel’s back. As for me and my house we will vote McCain.” Really? That saddens me. Again, McCain’s and Obama’s policies about this are practically THE SAME. Please, please read beyond the headlines and McCain/Palin propaganda. As Mara said, Obama isn’t sugarcoating things — he tells it like it is. McCain, on the other hand, shares the same position about traditional coal (but chooses to do it basically silently) while blasting Obama (through his mouthpiece running mate, no less). Point blank, look at Obama’s beliefs about traditional coal and the cap-and-trade system and McCain’s and you’ll see they’re pretty much identical!

JoJo, That was my point. And at this point – we really, really don’t want to jeopardize that, do we? Even if Chavez (and the Saudis) are anti-American (how many Saudis were involved in 9/11?) and corrupt and run horrible governments where people who disagree with them are tortured or murdered. Maybe that’s part of why we need to start on what we should have started on 35 years ago – energy independence. Sarah’s ideas about energy are about as accurate as her ideas about our nonexistent war with Iran. Drill Baby Drill is not going to get us there. I wish it could, but it can’t. It’s going to take everything – including coal and including offshore drilling – but it is still not enough. And Obama has said this over and over and over. And so has John McCain. And they have both said that we have a responsibility to reduce emmissions (sp) and we do. And we can do it. But we can’t do it if we let the bottom feeders of the internet and cable television try to tell us we are all different and try to rip us apart.

Obama paid bloggers running scared. I’d rather hold my nose and vote for McCain than hide my wallet and vote for Obama.

Obama going down the Coal Chute.
Shall we say Coalgate 8)
As the say at McDonalds, I am loving it.

Jim : Thank you for assuming that I am paid, and I could sure use some money, but I don’t work for Obama. I’m a mother and an American and a rabid patriot and I want my country back and I have seen what the Republicans will do with it. I want a country left for my daughter. One she can believe in. I don’t thinkit’s a joke.
It took along time, and I guess Sarah just didn’t have the time, but the interview with Obama was about 45 minutes and it was certainly not presented here “in its entirety” This is part of what was left out, among other things:
“WHAT WE HAVE TO DO THEN IS FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE USE COAL WITHOUT EMITTING GREENHOUSE GASES AND CARBON,”
Does that sound like someone who is trying, for no good reason to destroy the work of the people of WV, Kentucky, PA and Illinois? No it does not. It sounds like someone who is trying to figure out how to use one of our largest resources – a resource that we ABSOLUTELY cannot do without – one of our greatest resources. But we’ve got to find ways to produce it, without destroying the air we breathe. And if you people are really coal people, please don’t tell me that you have not seen the results of what coal dust can do to somebody’s lungs. You’ve seen more of it than the rest of us can ever imagine.
So why was this not included in Obama’s quote?

In it’s entirety, Mr. ABC reporter?
You forgot to leave out where he goes on to say:
You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.

LCMB: In its entirety would have included this, which was in the interview -
“WHAT WE HAVE TO DO THEN IS FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE USE COAL WITHOUT EMITTING GREENHOUSE GASES AND CARBON,”
I couldn’t agree more. Except I think we have to go further – I think we have to find a way to extract that resource – which I believe we have vast quantities of – without killing the men and women who do the work. And I think we have to find a way to care for the ones who have already been harmed. I believe it is a travesty that we allow that to happen to American workers.

Obama people can try and ignore this and repeat their robotic rhetoric, but those of us with the truth WILL get the info out there.
Since Mr. ABC reporterman forgot to include this I will do it for you, again:
You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.
Obama people can try and ignore this and repeat their robotic rhetoric, but those of us with the truth WILL get the info out there.

Obama further explaining the impacts on American families:
You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know — Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.

Poor Barry is always taken out of context… It is true that he did not just say he will bankrupt the coal industry; he said he would also drive up prices of energy for all Americans for our own good. Just like he is going to tax the heck out of us for our own good.
Daddy Obama, dear leader, where have you been all my life? Cuba is not so bad. There are a lot of antique cars there, I hear.

Notice this story small print as usual.
The Media continued its one sided reporting. Wonder if Obama can make work with Reed and Pelosi to make it a law to just talk about who the media wants!!

You can tell the Obama machine is lying when their lips are moving? Out of context? Does he think we’re stupid? He clearly said that his policies would bankrupt anyone wanting to start a new coal plant. The “illusion” comment seemed to imply that he would like to shut down every existing coal plant but that wasn’t doable. I honestly think the pro-Obama comments in these forums are Obama campaign workers.

“Attention Democrat’s” The Time Is Now! Get out and Vote! We out number the Republicans 2-1 We dont need another 4 years of Bush Policy’s.Remember the past 8 years this Country has been going down hill….Vote For Change, Vote For Obama!

So ‘new coal burning plants’ would only use ‘old technology’ where Obama would bankrupt them ? What happens if they build ‘new plant’ with ‘new technology’ would it be ‘good’ if he ‘bankrupt’ them too and use the money to ‘spread the wealth’ ??

“To all those who are bashing Obama’s remarks are we reading the same article? If so you might want to check your IQ level! You are really not able to process information and you making very stupid inferences. Grow up. Elevate the debate.”
Posted by: Iwekani M | Nov 3, 2008 12:30:49 AM
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Why is it every time the Dems have their back to the wall the only thing they can think of to protect themselves is to pull out the “stupid Republican” card???? Have you nothing more “intelligent” to argue?
I find it interesting that these self-proclaimed genuises are about to make THE dumbest decision that has ever been made in the history of the U.S.A. Apparently the public schools don’t teach the kids about the cons of Communism anymore… standing in long lines for a loaf of bread, the loss of personal freedom and civil liberties… and lets not even get started on the farce that is called Socialized Medicine.
I don’t want to stoop to the level of the Democrats by insulting their intelligence based on their political beliefs, because (at least for a couple more months anyway) we still live in a country that allows us political freedom to decide for ourselves who/what is best for our country. Although I do believe that in order to even consider voting for Mr. Obama you have to have your head completely buried in the sand, I think it’s more of an ethical/moral deficiency that is leading the lemmings to jump off the cliff than anything else.
As much as I have been praying for ANYONE other than Obama to win this election, part of me is very interested to sit back and watch the post-game show once they put their “Messiah” into the Oval Office.
By voting for Obama, we are effectively turning our back on God, and once that happens, it’s not going to be pretty. I know they don’t teach it in schools anymore, but our Country was founded on very strong Christian Fundamental beliefs, and by taking those things out of our Gov’t., we are destroying the foundation this once great Nation was built on… w/out that foundation this country is doomed to fail.

Just listen to the audio of Obama and decide for yourself what is best for you.
Obviously tree-huggers and coal-miners will have differing feelings about this. (Obviously, people invested in the cola industry and people who pay electric bills will also be affected).
I for one see the second coming of J.C. — and I’m not talking about the Messiah — I’m talking about Jimmy Carter. 14% inflation. 19% 30 year mortgage. Remember the energy crisis? — it wasn’t just about gas prices — it was about gas shortage! Get ready and hold on tight for the years ahead!

Maybe Obama will be the best President, because he doesn’t have any judgment! If he had to vote “present” 134 times in the Illinois Senate BECAUSE HE COULDN’T FIGURE OUT IF HE WAS FOR OR AGAINST LEGISLATION, and never introduced any legislation in the U.S. Senate he will be too enamored with himself that he won’t do anyting as President! That would be the best thing he could do for our Country! It is so obvious that he is an empty suit that he did nothing in the U.S. Senate before starting to run for President. If he had gotten ANYTHING done in the Senate, maybe he could say he was qualified to be President. And this is the guy who has never reached across the Aisle and he says he is going to end partianship as President??
Obama is A JOKE!!

Obama going down the Coal Chute.
Shall we say Coalgate 8)
As the say at McDonalds, I am loving it.

Obama is the “antí-Kennedy”!
John Kennedy said “ask not what your country can do for, but ask what you can do for your country”! John McCain and Sarah Palin have served their country in admirable ways. Obama has “served” his country by becoming friends with every terrorist and anti-semite he can! His early “education” (indoctrination) was in Indonesia where he learned about the Muslim “faith” and is a product of that radicalism!!
OBAMA IS A JOKE AND A FRIEND OF TERRORISTS!!!

I’d rather hug a tree than a load of coal any day. (By the way, coal is made of ancient trees with the life all squeezed out of them.) All you boneheads keep voting in the ultra right wing fascists will get what you deserve – a military dictatorship. I grew up in the 40′s and 50′s – I can assure you that coal pollution and filth is no way to live – at ANY price. Have a nice gasp or two – until YOUR dictators take away the very air you breathe.

Another attempt to misquote what was said and turn it into a smear.A pathetic attempt by a desperate group of losers.Where does it say anything in the following statement about bankrupting the coal industry??It is the power company that builds it that he is talking about-use clean coal or pay!!
Obama will eliminate coal after he takes all your guns duh!!
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.””

Elizabeth Dole tactics!!!

Obama’s social experiment … or, should I say Socialist experiment, will bring America to it’s knees! America has more coal than any other country in the world. Coal is one of America’s greatest natural resources, and our most abundant source of fuel. Our economy and our National Security is extremely intertwined with coal. We should be supporting and promoting clean coal. The thought that Obama would possibly bankrupt our coal industry is scary. Obama’s 20 year history of embracing radical ideas, radical people and radical change to our country allows this candidate with virtually no experience, to gamble with our constitution, our economy, our national security, and our future. Keep America safe and prosperous, … Elect McCain/Palin on November 4th !!!

When Obama poses a hypothetical “if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant” (meaning a traditional, dirty-coal plant), right-wing zealots take it as a given, as if there is no choice but to build it. But who in their right mind would want to build a new dirty coal plant at this point in time? And who in their right mind would back those who would attempt to build such a plant? Do they really want our skies to start looking like China’s again?

The most leftist liberal wing is taking over tomorrow. How very sad for this country that Obama and the media hoodwinking the electorate with their lies. He says one thing and San Francisco and another in Penn.
Twice!

The Republicans have succeeded where Osama Bin Laden has failed in bringing the US to it’s knees!
You idiots, the US will be better off with Obama NOT worse!

OK all repubs cannot really be too stupid to read an entire article and understand it?Please will one -just one prove me wrong.
Here it is in a NUTshell President Obama and songbird both support clean coal technology and carbon caps and all that.
Songbird is just being pathetic and desparate and he lies a lot.
I know that songbirds info wasnt in the article I added so the repugs would understand both coal plans are the same.

Obama want to bankrupt the coal industry. If you actually listen to his voice on the recording, he sounds depressed when he “no coal is an illusion.” Like that is some regret he has, then goes on to state how bankrupting coal is what he wants, along with nuclear.
Boy he loves the coal miners when he talks in front of them, but in San Francisco, coal miners are just another bunch of religious nuts, bitter and clinging to their guns. PENNSYLVANIA AND OHIO WAKE UP, IF BO LOSES YOU HE LOSES!!!! YOU HOLD ALL THE CARDS!!!!!

If John McCain would lie to David Letterman about his reason for not appearing on his show, he would lie to anyone anytime for any reason. His campaign is the dirtiest, most dishonest campaign I can recall. We do not need another dishonest POTUS.

I mentioned “Logic” in my last blog. Take a look at “ernieson’s” comment. Using his logic and assuming his assessment of John McCain is true, lying to Letterman means you always lie to everyone. That means if you lie to your boss about not coming to a meeting because you were sick, for instance, you will lie to everyone all the time. Does “ernieson” always tell the truth? If he says he does, he’s probably a lier, and as such, by his own logic, will therefore always lie to everyone. If he says he does not, the same applies. Funny how logic can be straightforward, if you’re not intoxicated by the Obama Kool-Aid. Normally, I would let this go, but in McCain there is a man who spent 5 years under real torture in service of our country, but “ernieson” would rather vote for a man who sat through twenty years of hateful, racist church speeches and associated with another person who has bombed buildings and whose group has killed innocent civilians in their plight. As accomplishments he has run a successful, albeit deceitful campaign and helped in community organizations. Note I am not calling the man any names, but I will examine his actions, his associations and his judgements. Sadly, some people in this country will get exactly what they deserve. I just wish the rest of us didn’t have to go down on the same ship.

Thank you, Jake! That pretty well clears it up. He wants to bankrupt them until and unless ‘we’ find a technology that will meet those standards.

Another example of Obama saying one thing to one part of the country, while saying something entirely different to another part. Obama talks out of both sides of his big mouth.
It’s called LYING! If he can lie straightfaced about accepting public financing, he can lie about anything. That kool-aid must be pretty strong stuff.
Nobama!! Never!!

Poor Carol and Perry, in a few hours they’re going to be *very* disappointed.

The statement I found illogical all together was “So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted. That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel, and other alternative energy approaches.”….How are the utilities going to Produce Billions if they are Bankrupted as he predicts in the first sentance. …

conservatives are pro life, and pro gun(Death) the same oxy MORONic thinking,lie spewing rhetoric they are full of. Liberals vote their conscience for the good of everyone, cons are selfish mindless idiots who follow their skewed beliefs to others detriment, and vote through their wallet. their mindset is un American, and un human.