By Lee Speigel

Dec 8, 2008 10:53pm

Caribbean Nations Ask Obama to Lift Embargo Against Cuba

The heads of 15 of the nations that comprise the Caribbean Community trade alliance known as CARICOM today called for President-elect Obama to end the U.S. trade embargo against Cuba.

CARICOM representatives are in Santiago de Cuba for its third annual summit with Cuba. CARICOM is comprised of Antigua and Barbuda, the Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Dominica, Grenada, Guyana, Haiti, Jamaica, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Surinam, and Trinidad & Tobago.

"As we gather today in Cuba, the economic, commercial and financial embargo imposed by the United States of America is still in place," said Antigua’s Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer, the current CARICOM president, the BBC reports. "The Caribbean community hopes that the transformational change which is underway in the United States will finally relegate that measure to history."

"This embargo remains in spite of overwhelming calls by almost all UN member states in favor of its elimination," Spencer said, noted the Telegraph

Cuban President Raúl Castro spoke of the "genocidal impact of the blockade."

The Obama Transition Team declined to comment.

- jpt

User Comments

DANG!, does this mean we are a SUPER POWER again, everybody wants something from the obama adm. even before we really have an obama adm (officially)
Well, i might as well get in line too.
obama, can I have the shirt off of your back?

Posted by: what? | December 8, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

oh yes, almost forgot.
lift the embargo, and everything else,
I want to visit CUBA.

Posted by: what? | December 8, 2008, 11:19 pm 11:19 pm

Everybody else trades with them, why not the US? Oh, right, all those cubans in Florida, how silly of me to think rationally…

Posted by: please! | December 8, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

Who knows? Maybe in the not so distant future, they’ll be dancing to Cuban Hip Hop in Manhattan while swigging Cuban Libres, and Havana cigars will be stocked up at the humidor clubs. That’s a lot brighter projection than the continuation of that old grey Cold War mentality and its isolation.

Posted by: kat | December 8, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm

Don’t we have BIGGER thiungs to be working through right now? Prioritize a bit will ‘ya!

Posted by: Stephan | December 8, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm

Jake,
If you insist on placing these types of requests as “news”, wouldn’t it be best to note that Obama isn’t President yet in the article? Somewhere?

Posted by: Chris | December 9, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am

It’s my belief that the only reason the Cuban embargo remains is so national politicians don’t miss out on votes in Florida. If we truly cared about human rights, we wouldn’t trade with China — or a host of other nations. If Cuba owned most of the US debt and/or had a billion potential consumers for US products, the embargo would have been removed. The reason the embargo against apartheid South Africa worked is because most of the world participated. That’s not the situation with Cuba.

Posted by: chgo921 | December 9, 2008, 12:23 am 12:23 am

Well Chris,
Maybe you could note Obama is referred to as “President-elect” which pretty much speaks for itself.

Posted by: Grey Matter | December 9, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am

Isn’t the only nation enacting an embargo with Cuba the US? I’m not inclined to think it’s genocidal as Raul Castro claims. For one thing, Cuba has a thriving partnership with China, exporting nickel and sugar there, and if I’m not mistaken, China is a lender to Cuba like it is to the US. Cuba also has more open relations with Mexico and with some European countries. Its isolation exists in relation to the US and its stringent communism, which I’ve heard restricts copy machine and internet access for its citizens. Normalization with the US is likely to happen as Raul Castro, blowhard that he is, seeks that with obvious support.

Posted by: kat | December 9, 2008, 12:45 am 12:45 am

I didn’t mean to be insensitive about the embargo. It’s certainly not genocidal in the Rwandan sense, but may fit the definition of genocide as defined by the Geneva Conventions. Basic items like soap and catheters are being withheld creating a shortage. It’s definitely not good for the Cuban people, and the UN has repeatedly called for its repeal.

Posted by: kat | December 9, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am

Makes sense to me–we talk to and encourage contact with North Korea and Libya.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | December 9, 2008, 3:25 am 3:25 am

Cuba already trades plenty with the United States,plenty of European countries,and plenty with Canada. The US is Cuba’s largest food importer, and bought 400+million dollars worth of goods last year.
There isn’t a shortage, it’s that the nomenklatura gets the good things, while the regular people get the bottom of the barrel. This was common in bloc countries…keep a small inner circle very comfortable.

Posted by: okay | December 9, 2008, 3:30 am 3:30 am

The Castro regime and their cronies must stop the imprisonment and slavery of the cuban people, they have suffered
for too long.

Posted by: dineros | December 9, 2008, 5:15 am 5:15 am

The Castro brothers have stolen and enslaved the dignity of the Cuban people for so long,lifting the embargo now will be the icing on the cake for them.I hope the EMBARGO is lifted when they have all departed.

Posted by: hambreros | December 9, 2008, 5:29 am 5:29 am

Everyone is not considering the economic,social and potential political destablising of the whole Caribbean if this occurs . A slow step-by-step approach is logical but wholesale especially with the global economic-financial problems it will be like a Cat 5 hurricane hits the whole of the Caribbean region on one day as the cruise ships and US vacationers will go where ?

Posted by: Wirth | December 9, 2008, 6:07 am 6:07 am

Go and watch John Pilger’s award-winning documentary, War on Democracy. Then let’s talk about human rights in Cuba.

Posted by: Kat | December 9, 2008, 6:07 am 6:07 am

The reality is that in the Caribbean, democracy is the way to come to power and not being the leader’s brother. That is why I do not understand the call by CARICOM to lift the embargo against Cuba without telling Cuba’s leadership (Fidel and Raoul) that it should embrace democracy and the rule of one man one vote.

Posted by: Panama Canal | December 9, 2008, 6:44 am 6:44 am

chgo921, great post.

Posted by: Clint | December 9, 2008, 6:56 am 6:56 am

It’s time to stop the repulsive political pandering to the anti-Castro fanatics in Southern Florida. We need to establish a rational relationship with the Cuban people.
As for the thuggery of the Castro brothers, the two of them can’t have been any worse than Batista, the mob, and the exploitive American corporations that ran Cuba before they took over.
Time to give the Cuban people a break.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | December 9, 2008, 7:02 am 7:02 am

This embargo should have been lifted years ago. If it had, the people would not have suffered so much in poverty.
It is good to review this and make a huge change in human rights with the Castro brothers.

Posted by: Independant Woman | December 9, 2008, 7:28 am 7:28 am

We are Borrowing Billions from Communist China…
10 Billion to Finance Iraq and 10 Billion for Afghanistan, from Communist-Socialist China..
No Outrage, remember the Korean War, Americans Died by the hands of the Chinese and North Koreans.
Wheres their Embargo ?
There is none !!!!
China: The Largest Communist-Socialist Country in the World !!!
The American Government & Corporate America made China an Economic Powerhouse’s in the World and China is still …
The Largest Communist-Socialist Country in the World.
In spite of their Economic Power, China is an will Remain…
The Largest Communist-Socialist Power in the World…
Yet we are to Hate, Loathe and Dispise Cuba….
China,Russia,Canada, France, Germany and All other Nations are working with [Cuba] in some Capacity…
They all say…
“The Embargo is a America Issue, not with Us”
Damn the Miami Dissention or Miami Detractors…
Note: China and Russia are friends with Cuba, and America are Bedfellows with China and Russia..
Yet we are to Deny the Cuba and Cuban People our Friendship…
Russia Supplies America with Oil and Gas..
Russia is in the top 14 Nations supplying the U.S. with Oil and Number One in Gas to America.
So why must we continue this Embargo ?
Its Hypocritical and Contrary Behavior….
The Billions of Barrels of oil Discovered y Cuba with the Help of China, has changed the Game..
The Embargo had better be lifted or Cuba will sell their new found oil Fortune with China and India at Top Price..
China & India have a combined population of 2 Billion People Plus.
Get with the program…America

Posted by: O. | December 9, 2008, 8:01 am 8:01 am

The first issue for the next administration should be to put an end to the Cuban embargo. This will send a strong message to the world community that this is new beginning. We are losing the goodwill of our Latin American neighbors. We are going to have China and Russia 90 miles away if we don’t end this embargo. I envision being able to drive/fly from Canada to Argentina without a passport.

Posted by: Miguel | December 9, 2008, 8:31 am 8:31 am

you must have lived in Cuba to really know what it need to be done and how there are 3 stories..one for the foreigners, one for the communist party and one for the family….lifting without conditions is simply crazy and the Caricom are only saying this because of Venezuela oil imposed talking….man Obama should think twice.

Posted by: enrico Garzaroli | December 9, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Concerned in OH -
Yeah…Socialism and Communism are Cuba’s problems. It was the land of milk and honey for all of its people when Batista, American kleptocrats, and mobsters like M. Lansky were running the country.
While I think it’s time to lift the embargo, I am neither a socialist nor a communist.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | December 9, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am

All of this rhetoric about whether we should or should’t end the Cuban embargo is centered around money not communism. The real argument is Cuba took the assets of the mob and greedy American corporations that were exploiting the people and threw them out. When the embargo was about to go into affect it did not stop President Kennedy from buying $150,00 worth of Cuban cigars. It was not about the Communists it was about the money.
We can trade with China, one of the largest abusers of human rights that enslaves it people and kills babies the government says should not have been born, yet they are our biggest trade partner. It is time to end the charade. End the embargo and win the Cuban people over with love not anger.

Posted by: gij718 | December 9, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Illinois Governor arrested. Obama will be next.

Posted by: Leo | December 9, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Lifting the embargo would be something even I would get behind. I’m not sure it ever accomplished exactly what we wanted it to, and it has turned into a relic of the Cold War. Still, we can’t just lift it unconditionally. We need SOME sort of assurances from Cuba that it will do something to help the lives of its citizens. Extending more basic freedoms would be a big part of that. If Obama is smart – and all you seem to think he is – he would use this carrot as a way to bring Cuba in line w/ the modern world. In the end, it would be good for us too. And I have to say, the China argument is very convincing even to a right winger like me! Of all nations we should embargo, you would think China would be number one, but instead ….

Posted by: Dear Leader Chariman Maubama | December 9, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

What is the reasoning for keeping the embargo in place?
Are we just waiting for Castro to die so we can say we outlasted him?

Posted by: Ryan C | December 9, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Yum! All the collectors are salivating over all those wonderful vintage cars still in use in Cuba.
Well, maybe we should lift the embargo in small stages. Cuba does not want our current level of chaos.
Small steps such as humanitarian goods could be first, and would not upset the Miami community so much.
Heck, we here in the US don’t manufacture much any more anyway. Even their cigars are not as prized here since we know smoking is bad for us. A lot has changed.
The Castro brothers are old and on their last legs, and it would be ironic if we lifted the embargo and found there is no longer anything the Cubans want from us.
Anyway, if we really normalized relations with Cuba it would be fun to see it start leaning capitalist before Fidel dies. I would want him to see it.
However, a bit more socialism would go a long way toward solving some of our problems. Why do we think we must have 100% one way or the other? We are heading that way with all the bailouts.
Eventually, Cuba could be just like us,or we could be just like them. Only better.

Posted by: Shockolit | December 9, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Why lift the EMBARGO Communist cuba has
been trading with other countries from ever since.The communist regime must introduce DEMOCRACY and stop the repression of it’s people.( CUBA LIBRE)
It is time for them to realise that communism is dead.

Posted by: mirandos | December 9, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

“Go and watch John Pilger’s award-winning documentary, War on Democracy. Then let’s talk about human rights in Cuba.”
It’s a great suggestion. Wish I’d made it.

Posted by: kat | December 9, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Watch out! Hillary and Obama are died in the wool communists.

Posted by: Billy Boy | December 10, 2008, 5:11 am 5:11 am

China: Communism + Socialism + Capitalism but still the Largest Communist-Socialist Country on the Planet and America can Bring its Capitalism to China and anyother Country, all it wants…
They will remain what they are Politically [Communist-Socialist]
If all Countries adapted America’s way of Life, would that make them Better…
No, it would not.
The true form of Indepndence in Action is allowing others to be who and what they are.
Communist, Socialist Countries are implementing [Capitalism] but that does not mean, they have to become Us…
We are in No moral Position to talk about Human Rights Abuses, as though we are Spotless.
Look at our Criminal System, we have MORE CRIME and Incarceration, both Federal, State, City & County, than All the Industrialized World..fact
We also Abort Children at Alarming Rates, go ask [Plan Parenthood]
Orphanages and Adoption Agencies can tell you or show you a Grim Reality.
The Many Homeless Americans and especially U. S. Veterans are a Shame on this Society.
Women being Battered by Men and Vis Versa, depending on the situation.
Wide Spread Violence, regardless of the State..
Per capita [Alaska] has the Most Domestic Violence Abuses, as well as other Violent Crimes…
Thats Alaska, so you Know its bad in the other states, as well.
This Country Good, but as Good as it is, is not the [Utopia] it would like to Project to the World, that it is…
We are in no Moral Position to Judge other Nations, on grounds of us being Better and more Moral than others, that is …
Borderline Bull Spit and it is False to think we are Exempt from being Judged because we suppossedly more Moral and Upright, than other countries.

Posted by: O. | December 10, 2008, 8:00 am 8:00 am

How many leaders the Americans and Chinese people has had in the past
50 years?. COMMUNISM in CUBA is a FAMILY RUN REGIME. The DICTATORSHIP by the Castro brothers is in place to keep the Island and the people in a more repressive position than when BATISTA ruled it. long live DEMOCRACY. I hope elect PRESIDENT OBAMA should tighten the EMBARGO

Posted by: mirandos | December 10, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

Hey Leo.
Why are you attacking PRESIDENT
elect OBAMA, The EMBARGO should be your comment, be civilised, OBAMA will be the GREATEST PRESIDENT America has ever had. especially if he keeps the EMBARGO insitu.

Posted by: mirandos | December 10, 2008, 10:21 am 10:21 am

The Embargo is a Joke.
The Cuban Island will become a Successful Island because of the 20 Billion barrels of recently discovered oil.
So America can keep the Embargo and Cuba will still become a Capitalist and still very Communist-Socialist Government, with or without the Castro Brothers.
The castro Brothers can’t live forever, but their established Governments will.
Just like Mau of China, the Communist-Socialist Government lives on…
Chairmen Mau has been gone for Decades, but his Communist-Capitalist Government lives on, they just added Capitailsm, thats all.
Democracy: Is Capitalism…
Thats Reality.
Cuba’s Former Leader Batista, was the Worse kind of man, he lived well, while the Cuban people lived in Poverty.
More People have been Educated under the Castro Bros. than in Batista’s Government. Who let the US Politicians & American Gangsters use their land and People as their Toy.
If it were up to Batista, the people who are now Educated from the Sugar cane Fields of cuba, would still be tilling those Sugar Cane Fields Today..
And the American Politicians and Gangsters, who are all Joined at the Neck and Hip would still be using Cuba as its Personal Playground as well as it’s Money Laundering Business Machine, today.
Cuba now has some of the Best Doctors on the Planet..
Not if Batista’s Regime still existed.
The World does not cater to having a Single Social or Political way of life, it never has and it never will.
Live with the facts…
Its called Diversed forms of thinking and living.

Posted by: O. | December 10, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am

The Castro brothers are desendants of the old colonial past that introduced slavery and repression, under Batista Cubans could buy food and clothing, Now the MAJORITY of Cubans are going to bed hungry, they may not be starving, however only the COMMUNISTS , DIPLOMATS and TOURISTS are able to eat good food, There are now more prostitutes who are educated CUBANS degrading themselves so that they can buy necesseties such as soap and other items with dollars not PESOS.

Posted by: mirandos | December 10, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

The Castro brothers are desendants of the old colonial past that introduced slavery and repression, under Batista Cubans could buy food and clothing, Now the MAJORITY of Cubans are going to bed hungry, they may not be starving, however only the COMMUNISTS , DIPLOMATS and TOURISTS are able to eat good food, There are now more prostitutes who are educated CUBANS degrading themselves so that they can buy necesseties such as soap and other items with dollars not PESOS.

Posted by: mirandos | December 10, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Cuba Embargo
Castro must pay first for the stolen properties
By: Azuno Rodríguez
“When an injustice is committed even against a single citizen the whole Country should stand firm to correct that injustice.
That’s a sign of greatness”
The embargo in and of itself, is simply the refusal of the Castro regime to pay US citizens compensation for their seized properties. Had Castro paid, there would never have been an embargo.
During 2008, in a typical anti-American display, the General Assembly of the United Nations voted, almost unanimously, for a resolution asking the USA to lift the Cuban Embargo. They made a gross mistake because they were asking the wrong government. They should have asked Cuba instead, which is actually the only government that could unilaterally lift the embargo.
Was the purpose of the UN vote to help Cuba rise from poverty through commerce with our Country? It is unanimously evident that we are such an economic and generous power that even though Cuba can trade with all the countries on the globe, that it would perish if unable to trade with the US; am I missing something? I know that we are the greatest Country on earth, but I didn’t know that we were greater than all the rest of the countries combined. Thanks to all UN members for holding us in that high regard. Obama listen to their clamor: no change.
At the risk of being repetitious, let’s review a little history for many who appeared to have forgotten: After Castro seized the property of US citizens without compensation in 1960, President Eisenhower was forced to cease commerce with Cuba and in February of 1962 President Kennedy enacted a commercial embargo against Cuba freezing their assets in the USA.
Then in 1960, realizing that much of the existing machinery and equipment on the island was American made and required spare parts from the US, the Cuban government called a meting of its technical personnel. Experts from the Soviet block were going to instruct Cubans how to stand up to the embargo that had just begun. Some thought the Communists could teach the Cubans how to build those spare parts. A Hungarian technical “expert” opened the meeting and said “all you have to do is: buy through a third country” that was the beginning and the end of the meeting. That is how Cuba has been circumventing the embargo. Today products made in Florida by Cuban-Americans can be purchased in Havana’s dollar stores.
The seizure of American properties in Cuba was brutal, hateful and infuriating. For example, when Castro seized the Moa Bay Mining Company, a subsidiary of the Freeport Sulphur Company of Louisiana, it represented an investment of almost 90 million dollars, doubling the Louisiana’s company’s assets. Prior, and during a span of five years, the Louisiana Company developed a new process for extracting nickel and cobalt from the ore of Moa and during 1960 they were starting production runs. The final product was to be refined in Freeport. Then, Castro’s agents came to town in 1960, and gave the Americans 24 hours to close the plant and leave the island.
I am still ashamed by how my country treated and dispossessed these people of their property and livelihood. Most anyone who witnessed this first-hand would have shed a tear. I know because I knew them. As an engineer at Moa Bay I worked everyday hand-in- hand alongside Americans and Cubans. Bear in mind that only a small percentage of the personnel were Americans, most of the employees were Cuban engineers and laborers; my countrymen were being economically and emotionally raped by Castro government. In addition, the closure of the plant crippled a small town that was thriving economically because of its proximity to Moa Bay.
The plant was closed for over a year. Then Guevara asked some of Moa’s engineers, including me to help re-open the plant. I refused and surreptitiously left the Country within days when I was accused a traitor by Che Guevara. When the plant finally opened there was no market for its product. The final product of the plant could only be refined in Freeport Louisiana. The plant was opened by Che Guevara for the sole purpose of teaching the Soviets the process we created of extraction of nickel and cobalt through a new revolutionary chemical process of which the Soviets didn’t know anything about. Even if just for this single transgression, the embargo should only be lifted if Castro himself financially compensates those honest hard working Americans that worked at Moa Bay, along with an apology accompanied with a plea of forgiveness. Anything less will be immoral and criminal.
In 1992 the embargo was enacted into law as the Cuban Democracy Act and in 1996 the Helms-Burton Act was passed by Congress. Both of these were enacted to help the political freedom of the Cuban people. It provided further restrictions on any American commerce benefiting the Castro Regime.
During a meeting in Europe, a few years ago, a Spanish military officer asked a closed friend of mine, Humberto Esteve, the following question: “Why is it than the Cuban diplomatic corps want the embargo lifted and our intelligence sections inform us that the Cuban military does not want it lifted? Humberto didn’t have an answer.
Let’s be clear, neither the Executive nor Congress could remove the effect of the embargo. If commerce is open with Cuba, the Courts will be flooded with demands and financial embargos by the citizens whose properties were stolen by the Castro’s barbaric regime, and, that, ladies and gentlemen will be a much worse embargo than the one in place now.
For us to lift the embargo it will be a travesty of justice, an insult to every American citizen that lost his properties without compensation and an act of disrespect for this Country. Let them start lifting it by paying and apologizing for what they robbed and then we may talk about doing business with them, otherwise let us tell them and those here that want it lifted to go to hell.
Let’s make Cuba pay

Posted by: Azuno Rodriguez | December 16, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

The americans need a villan to justify their high moral ground,so pick on the little guy.Deal with China….hypocrits in every sense of the word.We`ll drop democracy bombs if we have to…to help the people.It`s all about being able to drop your vote in a ballot box,it`s alot easier to bribe/lobby a government than a person who doesn`t share your views on some issues.If we could count the lives lost of the people we tried to help.I say put a fence around america,not to keep people from getting in,rather to keep them from getting out.

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