By Dotcomabc

Dec 13, 2008 4:20pm

Chicago Tribune: Rahm and Blagojevich Staff Talked

ABC News’ Sunlen Miller reports:

As the silence from the Obama camp continues regarding contact between transition officials and the Illinois governor’s office, the Chicago Tribune reports that incoming White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has been captured on tape discussing Obama’s Senate successor with the staff of Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

While no one in the U.S. attorney’s office is alleging the Obama team had any involvement in any deal-making, it is unknown who on the Obama transition team had communicated to the governor’s office that they wouldn’t engage in any “pay to play” scheme to pick the Senate replacement.

The Tribune reported that there had been conversations between Emanuel and Blagojevich’s chief of staff, John Harris, who resigned last week in the scandal.

According to the Tribune, “One source confirmed that communications between Emanuel and the Blagojevich administration were captured on court-approved wiretaps. Another source said that contact between the Obama camp and the governor’s administration regarding the Senate seat began the Saturday before the Nov. 4 election, when Emanuel made a call to the cell phone of Harris.”

During conversations, Emanuel passed on to Blagojevich President-elect Obama’s list of whom he would like to see fill his Illinois Senate seat: Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett, Illinois Veterans Affairs Director Tammy Duckworth, state Comptroller Dan Hyner, Illinois Rep. Jan Schakowsky, and Democratic Attorney Gen. Lisa Madigan.

On Thursday, the President-elect made assurances that he did not have contact with the governor’s office but was less forthcoming about his staffers’ conversations. He did express that he is certain that no one on his staff had any involvement in any deal-making with the governors office.

“I had no contact with the governor’s office,” Obama said at a press conference in Chicago. “I did not speak to the governor about these issues.  That I know for certain.  What I want to do is to gather all the facts about any staff contacts that I might — may have — that may have taken place between the transition office and the governor’s office.  And we’ll have those in the next few days, and we’ll present them.”

This does not mean that Emanuel – Obama’s pick for White House chief of Staff – had attempted to make any deals with Blagojevich about the vacant Senate seat.

But it does open up another question – among many that have been unanswered.

On Emanuel’s list for the Senate seat appointment is Valerie Jarrett – Obama’s long time friend and aide.

Referred to as “Senate candidate #1” in the court’s report – Jarrett is still facing questions on why she withdrew her name from consideration for the seat. Shortly after doing so she appointed as a senior aide in the Obama administration.

The Obama transition team has said that Jarrett wanted to continue to work in close-proximity with Obama in the White House – and that her withdrawal from the running did not signal that she or anyone else on the Obama Transition team was aware of any “pay for play scheme.”

The revelation that Emanuel had Jarrett on the Obama’s approved short list raises questions about what Obama aide David Axelrod said at a forum at Harvard University Thursday night.

“Valerie Jarrett is a longtime friend, adviser, very able person, and his preference was always that she serve in the White House, and ultimately he expressed that to her,” Axelrod said. "That’s why she made the decision. No one in their wildest imagination could have imagined the situation that ensued."

Why would Jarrett appear on an Obama-approved list of successors if it was his preference all along that she work at the White House?

–Sunlen Miller

User Comments

Perhaps it was a question of what she herself (Jarrett) wanted? She does get a vote in this, you know. Perhaps she was weighing whether she wanted to stay in Illinois and be a Senator or follow Obama to DC. It would make sense that, if she wanted to be a Senator, she would be one that Obama would “approve”, n’est-ce pas?

Posted by: Lisa | December 13, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

Gosh – maybe because he felt the decision should be up to Jarrett?

Posted by: Tom J | December 13, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

Sometimes I wonder whether journalists ever sit and really ponder the “questions” they ask. This ain’t rocket science.

Posted by: Lisa | December 13, 2008, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

And before any says it, yes, I know she would be in DC a lot of the time if she were a Senator too. But it’s a difference between continuing to have a base in your home state and running your own show or going to the WH to work for Obama. I’m sure Jarrett had to weigh that in her own mind and ultimately Obama convinced her he needed her in the White House.

Posted by: Lisa | December 13, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Let the guy eat his waffles.
First no contact means he shook hands.
Now staff contact “may have had” now is repeated conversations not with staff but his Chief of Staff.
Why couldnt he just have told us all this one day 1?

Posted by: BertieW | December 13, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

So they talked. Who really cares. Why can’t the media and the pundits like you Jake latch onto something really newsworthy like Wall Street taking my $750b and giving it straight to retiring CEOs as golden parachutes and millions of millions in bonuses? Try THAT story everyday for a week or two and the media just might gain more respect from the public.

Posted by: buzzie | December 13, 2008, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Maybe Ms. Jarrett wanted to distance herself from Chicago politicians?

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

Instead of spreading innuendo and rumor, if someone wants to know what Jarrett’s thinking was, why don’t they ask “her”?

Posted by: JR | December 13, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

All this kerfuffle over the fact that, as even the prosecuter admits and the tapes prove, the Obama people DIDN’T play ball with Blagojevich (and, boy, was he mad about it). I’ve never seen a politican hounded like this for NOT doing something wrong.

Posted by: Lisa | December 13, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

“Perhaps it was a question of what she herself (Jarrett) wanted? She does get a vote in this, you know. Perhaps she was weighing whether she wanted to stay in Illinois and be a Senator or follow Obama to DC.” The why hasn’t Obama just said that?

Posted by: Jason Socrates | December 13, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

You guys just have nothing to write about do you?
Valerie Jarret is obviously a very capable woman who shares and has worked towards common goals with PEBO. But are you suggesting that he shouldn’t have even placed her name on a shortlist for Senator just because he wanted her? Perhaps PEBO just wanted to give her the option to move in the direction that she was most interested in without regard to just his desires? Perhaps she did express interest in a senate run once long ago before Obama won the Presidency? But I don’t know…and neither do you. But like so many in the press you’ll try and spin a story out of nothing while staying silent as Bush & Cheney still mock our Constitution on a daily basis. It’s like you are all trying to write a bad soap opera and by bad I mean bad. So much “mainstream” news would be a ridiculous tragicomedy if it were all not so serious.

Posted by: Patrick in IL | December 13, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

The media needs to stop trying to smear Obama with this mess. Instead of concentrating on real issues, the media has turned into a tabloid rag, looking for trouble where there is none. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Posted by: Liz | December 13, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

The Whopper is always best when served up by a d-crat:
hussein: I did not have verbal relations with that man, Gov. Blagojevich.
Clinton: I did not have se*ual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.
Some things NEVER change.

Posted by: ALEX H. | December 13, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

hahahahah, I love it. Obama is a fraud. I knew it all along. All of you got brainwashed.

Posted by: Ryan | December 13, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Jake,
If you could had worked the way you are doing now, before going to Iraq war; you could had saved many lives and multi million of dollars.
Did you learn a lesson of not reporting that time, and now you are reporting accordingly???????

Posted by: FM | December 13, 2008, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

The Obama team has had such a carefully nurtured reputation for handling things well from the get go. DROPPED THE BALL ON THIS ONE DIDN”T THEY?

Posted by: Michael ONeal | December 13, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Read all the comments…boy all you libs want this story to blow over so bad don’t you……. BUT scooter libby….you libs would’nt let that die ….no sir ree bub… is your own MSM betraying you all….WHATS UPPPPPP………………………………….

Posted by: james | December 13, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

Lisa,
“All this kerfuffle over the fact that, as even the prosecuter admits and the tapes prove, the Obama people DIDN’T play ball with Blagojevich (and, boy, was he mad about it). I’ve never seen a politican hounded like this for NOT doing something wrong.”
Exactly! Anybody else here prefer Rachel M’s or Keith O’s “passionate” expression of political news? I used to be annoyed by it, but now, it has proven to be a great alternative.

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm

The way that the right is already trying to make this nonsense a major problem for Obama, shows just how they are only interested in regaining power, and not helping heal the divide that was 8 years of the worst administration we’ve ever had.
Let’s hope we can all get past this stupidity, and collectively work towards achieving actual changes to better this country – from energy to eductation to health care to unemployment to the environment, etc.
If the GOP meets the left in the middle, and we work as a team to move forward, then we may still have a chance – if instead, they plan to turn everything into a distraction, and start fighting Obama on all issues moving forward, then we will all lose.

Posted by: Vinnie | December 13, 2008, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

It seems the only constructive ideas that conservatives have to offer to the public debate are Fox News style innuendo.
What a pathetic, empty movement they have become. Sarah Palin is indeed the appropriate choice to lead the conservatives.

Posted by: james432 | December 13, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

Buh-bye, Rahm. No Hope for you.

Posted by: Mesquito | December 13, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Any way you spin it, this is a bad start for a president elect five weeks out from inauguration.

Posted by: 50megaton | December 13, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

You have to talk to the governor of Illinois about who will fill your senate seat. That is common sense. The deal making was all Blagonovichs scheming without Obama’s team knowing about anything being underhanded.

Posted by: Paula Lacey | December 13, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Obama repeatedly Lied ..
Now why was the investigation cut short?
why didn’t Fitz wait to see who actually bribed Blagojovich?

Posted by: tralala | December 13, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

jake,
spin, spin, spin. anything to sell your product. you must be very proud.

Posted by: david | December 13, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Obama is not even in his First day as President yet and already all the illegal stuff he has been a part of in Chicago for so many years is coming home to “roost” I bet Pastor Wright would approve of me stealing his phrase. Obama is entirely caught up in the crimes of Chicago politics. I hope he does not make it to Jan. 20th. I say lock em up now. Every single person who is a part of his staff including Obama. Fuuny how the press missed all of this during th campaign. Fuuny thing is…people actually voted for Obama.

Posted by: truthnmichigan | December 13, 2008, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Vinnie,
“if instead, they plan to turn everything into a distraction, and start fighting Obama on all issues moving forward, then we will all lose.”
Bingo! That’s why they need to keep ‘em stupid and distracted. They don’t like education, fair labor, fair wages or compassion for others. I don’t know why they consider ‘passion’ important when it is clear they have no compassion for others or our nation as a whole.
Oh, I found the Olbermann website, but I can’t find the blog for it. Anybody? Help me, please!

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm

I don’t think you can just go blame everybody in Illinois of involvement because of corruption in a couple people. Just like if you are in a class and there is one bully, that doesn’t mean everybody is a bully. Hopefully Obama and the people he is relying on have morals, so far they seem fair, and if not hopefully they will be held accountable justifiably

Posted by: guest | December 13, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

According to the republicans, ‘take your first shot’ at organized labor that protects Americans against slavery. Wow! The republicans have evolved into a bad, bad thing.
Help me find another blog, please! I’ve found fivethirtyfive, but I’d like a major news source’s blog. The word news is NOT used lightly here.

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

What is the big deal? O was “sure” he hadn’t talked to Blago about this subject, but being the cautious and truthful person that he is, wanted to check with others. The discussions that took place, do not appear to show any collusion anyway. And, Blago himself told his Chief of Staff that Obama’s people “don’t want to give us anything but their appreciation.” End of Story!

Posted by: linsam92 | December 13, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

I have faith in Rahm. Once he got talking to Blago and realized what the game was, he brought it as fast a conclusion as he could politely manage. Then, he called his lawyer and together they ran ran ran as fast as ever they could to the U.S. Attorney to report a probable crime and to file an affidavit. Right? How could Rahm do anything other than the Right Thing? he’s a Congressman, after all.

Posted by: Mesquito | December 13, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Memo to right-wing nut jobs: Scooter Libby says “hello”

Posted by: Steve from Danville | December 13, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Hey Liz – The media needs to stop stirring up . . .” I am not picking on you but I’d like to point out I did not hear any complaints when Palin was being accused of going to church, and for wardrobe shopping, and for building a $10 voter approved sports center. Which was more petty? Also, I think McCain and Palin handled the media ghetto-journalism much better than Obama and Emanuel who whine everytime they get asked a question.

Posted by: lindz1989 | December 13, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

Why doesnt this say Democratic Chief of Staff ?? Isnt Blag and Emanuel both Democrats. This is Democratic corruption in the highest office of a state that is completely controled by democrats.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

They want so badly for Obama to be just like them. Greedy, selfish and morally
bankrupt. But sorry confederates he is
NOT.

Posted by: trace | December 13, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

You know this sounds like Obama was tiped off. Senate Cadidate number 1 just withdrew for no reason? I cant wait for the trials to start. The sooner the better. Lets impeach Blago and get his wife on charges as well.
Squeeze Blago until he squeals.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Vinnie said “If the GOP meets the left in the middle, and we work as a team to move forward, then we may still have a chance – if instead, they plan to turn everything into a distraction, and start fighting Obama on all issues moving forward, then we will all lose.”
Well, where was this magnanimus attitude during the Bush presidency? Obama should be treated exactly as Bush was. That means everything gets blown out of proportion and is played to gain political advantage. That is the lesson the libs have taught everyone for the last eight years and generally for the the last twenty eight years since Reagan. To now whine that your guy is getting some of the same is pathetic.

Posted by: James | December 13, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

If Obama spent $150K+ on his wardrobe in one month, I’d be peeved. He didn’t, though, so where’s the story on THAT Mr. Tapper?! Same as him NOT participating in the Blago pay-to-play, but you’ve got, what, about 10 stories on that?

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Maybe the Chicago Mob bosses figured they should not let this go any further so they did dropped a dime and called Rahm.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Okay, there’s an audio recording of Rahm Emanuel and the governor’s staff discussing potential candidates for Obama’s Senate seat. Perfectly natural, since the governor’s office in most states holds the power of appointment and patronage.
So, Sunlen Miller, what’s the problem here? Are you offering us any evidence of quid pro quo arragements betwen the two parties?
No, you’re not. Rather, all you’re disseminating is some fairly weak innuendo and pretty blatant conjecture.
This story is to President-elect Obama as Oakland was to Gertrude Stein: There’s no “there” there. Neither Obama nor Rahm Emanuel have done anything wrong here — whereas you, on the other hand, now stand accused by me of manufacturing a false controversy.

Posted by: Donald from Hawaii | December 13, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

>They want so badly for Obama to be just like them.
Obama is either
a) dirty
b) a gutless career climber choosing not to fight against the corruption when he was an IL senator or even a US senator
c) the dumbest president yet.
None of these are appealing

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

James,
I see you missed the real lesson. The real lesson is that Murdoch pays for any and all idiotic views that sell papers/news in their quest for market share, readership and advertising dollar. You see, republicans believe that drama rules while the rest of the country (and the world) is sick of drama.

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

I care about two things right now?
A: What about the economy?
B: What about a constituional amendment that ends quid pro quo politics of any kind?
And just out of human interest, are you squirming about that second question?

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | December 13, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

Liz— Patrick in IL—-Common Sense—This story is straight out of the Chicago Tribune—- Appanently it takes Odrama longer to get to the bottom of the details within his own staff than a newspaper reporter. After all Odrama said he’d investigate and report back to the general public. This Hot Rod stuff went down on Tuesday morning, now it’s Saturday evening. How long is the general public supposed to wait on Odrama to become “transparent” ?? If it wasn’t for the news media reporting what they find out, we’d never hear squat! As far as I’m concerned, Odrama needs to come clean with the public or crawl back to thw Chicago political cesspool from whence he and his staff emerged!

Posted by: roscoe02 | December 13, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm

The Republican’s idea of smart politics these days is to permanently write off the industrial states by telling the auto industry to drop dead.
And the democratic idea is to have the government that cant balance its own budget wants to take over everything making you have to go to them to ask if you can go to the toilet.
They want you to be totally depedant on them. What you get is what you are given. This is the exact opposite of what the country was founded on and what made it great.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

Obama is the most clueless politician in Chicago.
Didn’t know Rev Wright gave racist, anti-American sermons even though all of Chicago knew.
Kicked off his political career in the living room of a terrorist who he thought was rehabilitated.
Campaigned for Hot Rod (for two terms) but didn’t know he was corrupt.
President Elect of the United States–completely unaware of all that goes on around him.

Posted by: sam | December 13, 2008, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm

This Blagojevich- Emanuel conversations smell awful. Awful. Awful for Obama´s credibility. If Obama wants to star his presidency with credibility and the favor of people, he needs to get rid of Emanuel right now.

Posted by: Luis C. Ramírez | December 13, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

Sounds like the right and their media lapdogs are releasing The Hunting of the President Part 2.

Posted by: Belinda Nicols | December 13, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

I believe ChicagoBob is on to something. Why did the prosecutor stop the investigation before the idiots that were open to paying a bribe to Blags were caught? Did the prosecutor purposefully stop the investigation to prevent Rahm from trying to make an illegal deal? This is very odd that a prosecutor would just stop an investigation when several people at least showed some interest in breaking the law.
Also, Obama showed industrial strength stupidity in trying to lie about the contact he and his staff had with Blags. If he is making these types of rookie mistakes already his adminstration is doomed to failure.

Posted by: Mick | December 13, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

While it is of interest as to why she withdrew, I doubt that Obama did anything to worry about.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | December 13, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

The media needs to stop trying to smear Obama with this mess.
The media has not even gotten started investigating Obama. They were in love the idea of Obama. Now they are looking at Emil Jones and the Mob run Chicago and going OOOPS maybe he isnt what we thought. Maybe we should have done our jobs earlier instead of fawning all over Obama.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

There is only one legitimate course of action at this point. Obama must be impeached and removed from office. Biden can finish out his term.

Posted by: jay | December 13, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

How about she CHANGED HER MIND!!!!
Ms. Jarrett, has every right to do just THAT!!!!
CASE CLOSED!!

Posted by: sisterdearest09 | December 13, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Also, Obama showed industrial strength stupidity in trying to lie about the contact he and his staff had with Blags.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I dont get this either. It makes it look shady. Maybe its not but it doesnt pass the smell test. It would only make sense they contacted him so why lie unless you have something to hide

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

Hey Jake,
Fox News called, they think you’re on the ball and would fit in nicely over there. PLEASE TAKE THEM UP ON IT! Whenever I click on a story trying to falsely make Obama look bad, I know I’ll see your smirking face on it.

Posted by: Ken in WA | December 13, 2008, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

roscoe02,
“This Hot Rod stuff went down on Tuesday morning, now it’s Saturday evening. How long is the general public supposed to wait on Odrama to become “transparent” ??”
Yet most Americans are not interested in what YOU want to get off on. Obama made his statements and said he’d get back to the public once answers were known. He did that.
Were you worried that by day 4 you would implode or something? What’s your point?
Food was on my table day1, day2, day3 and day4. This soap opera didn’t have an impact on any of that.
Transparency doesn’t mean Obama needs to cow-tow to those that think he’s a lesser. Most of his supporters won’t either.
Have a nice next 8 years of getting over your demands!

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Rahm as chief of staff would have talked to the gov. He’s from Chicago too. The point is, the only person who expected a deal is Blago. I mean, ABC has a story about teens and a certain type of…hmmm…behavior. Does this mean ABC is a sex site? In this column’s logic, yes it is.

Posted by: kravitz | December 13, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Can the media finally admit what should have been exposed during the campaign?
Can they finally say, “That isn’t the Barack Obama I knew”
Maybe one day we will have a press that doesn’t get a “shiver” up and down their leg when any Democrat talks and will actually do their job. I know – not going to happen, but… Gee I sure would like that dream to come true.

Posted by: James | December 13, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

>How about she CHANGED HER MIND!!!!
ROFL.
You dont request to be Senator
lightly. I doubt she changed her mind.
More than likely.
A) She didnt have the cash
or
B) She was tipped off

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

jay,
“There is only one legitimate course of action at this point. Obama must be impeached and removed from office. Biden can finish out his term.”
Gotta love the smart people that want Obama impeached BEFORE 1/20/09. (Yes, I know you were just being funny; at least I hope you were!)

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Vinnie, Best Post Here Todaay!

Posted by: Old School Woman | December 13, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

I want to hear more but it is way to early to persecute Obama and his staff. So far he is only guilty of being a Democrat from Illinois. If he too is steeped in politics as usual then maybe it is no small crime. What is truly sad is that we could have had McCain/Palin. Two who fight the very essence of this alleged scandal. And all of this puts the entire 8 years of one particular president in a better perspective. I hope restoring the honor of the presidency is not lost during the first six months of 2009. For now, I will salute Mr. Obama beginning Jan. 20.

Posted by: lindz1989 | December 13, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

Obama hid Emanuel the next day.
He has been hiding every since.
Interesting isnt it? He did not go to
press conferences. He did not make
any comments. Its not the norm.
Obamas several years in IL politics and NOT once did he spend time to work against corruption and pay to play.
WOW.. Thats a guy that is not in this as a business. Businesses have no morals only adgendas of profit.
Seems like Obamas only goal was Obama and still is while he calls us to serve?
WHERE was Obama when we needed him to fight against the massive IL corruption.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

This is a story, people. The louse here is Gov. Blog. There’s ignorance when trying to connect one individual’s action to another. Come on…if you who read and write comments on these stories understood the idea of taking responsibility then you would understand that the real criminal is NOT Obama, for cryin out loud. To already cry impeachment of Obama (reminder…he’s in political office pergatory) is unintelligently ludicrous.

Posted by: michelle | December 13, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

Does anybody else see all this Blago minutia as an opportunity to end Murdoch’s madness? If Murdoch can bankrupt your retirement accounts by reporting only what will benefit him, doesn’t he deserve to know who REALLY holds the key to growing our nation?
During the presidential campaigns, Murdoch openly stated his expectations that the media would create drama-filled ‘news’ to distract you. Murdoch bought the Wall Street Journal, too, thereby offering pseudo business market analysis (cut and paste).
Like Moody’s, Murdoch needs to *get where we’re coming from, yes?
Historically, once the world knows you’re a sham/tabloid, you’re stuck in that horrible abyss forever more.
Respect is easy to lose when you sell out decency. Jake, you paying attention?

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

Why should Obama get to say who his successor is in the first place?

Posted by: jim 234 | December 13, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

Some of you need to read more carefully before your post. Obama said that 1) he did not have any contact with Blago and that 2) he was confident that no one on his staff was involved in any deal making.
Despite the frenzied assumptions that are being made, there’s nothing here to suggest that RE did anything but transmit a list of candidates that Obama found “acceptable.”
BTW – Someone can’t resign from an office he hasn’t assumed. Someone can’t be impeached from an office he hasn’t been sworn into.

Posted by: Brooklyn Democrat | December 13, 2008, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Wow.
I’ve heard of beating a dead horse, but this is getting ridiculous.
Here’s the answer to all the questions about out the Obama campaign and the empty Senate seat:
Who cares?

Posted by: Nashville_fan | December 13, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Yes Vinnie’s post was positive but this page demonstates yet again that Republicans won’t work with anybody and can’t be trusted to be fair about anything. Our best course of action is to keep voting them out of office till they just haunt the airwaves. Freedom of speach is still one of our principles so they are entitled to that. We must be dedicated to preventing the corporate stooges from turning the government back over to big business (with the results we’ve all clearly seen but Republicans will never admit to) under the platform of Fear and Greed.

Posted by: Burdock | December 13, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

So what if Emanuel spoke to Blago’s staff!!!
His is not quilt or done anything WRONG!!!

Posted by: sisterdearest09 | December 13, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Brooklyn Democrat,
“Despite the frenzied assumptions”
They are not frenzied assumptions. They are the makings of Jake’s forward movement to elect himself the next Hannity or Limbaugh. After all, journalistic sell-outs are the ones making the loot!
I hope Obama imposes a tax on all ‘news’ organizations that misreport facts knowingly — no matter their reason for doing so.
Granted, this particular article by Jake on the make is not one that qualifies. UNLESS, you consider that ABC radio reported differently than ABC Jake while both were privy to the same intel. NOW, Jake points out with this article the dates. Dates matter, but he conveniently left them out in prior reporting pieces (See media matters).
Jake, like his ABC-radio comrades knew about the facts, but only one of them reported factually. Notch down on ethical reporting in my opinion.
Gotta eat is no excuse for misleading the public!

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

ChicagoBob…Illinios has had corruption for how many years and how many politicians have been indicted or there abouts?
Obama’s clueless?…Clueless doesn’t organize, operate, generate, knock down the ignorant racial barrier and successfully run a campaign as the one we just experienced in our lifetime.
Impeacement…you fools…Can’t impeach someone who isn’t officially sworn into office.
Obama’s a fraud…People always find fault in other people and not theirselves.
Lies…where in this does one see a lie coming from Obama. Crimney!

Posted by: mdy | December 13, 2008, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm

It’s not at all unusual for an outgoing CEO to help choose a successor. Assuming, that is, that the CEO is leaving on after a successful stint, and presumably has a great deal of insight and value to contribute to the process. So, in and of itself, I see nothing wrong with Rahm Emanuel consulting on the issue. At the risk of being a bit snarky, I will observe, however, that Obama has done little but run for the presidency since taking office, and so probably has little of actual value to contribute to the process.

Posted by: Bridget | December 13, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Wow this thing just gets more interesting.

Posted by: Huh | December 13, 2008, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Look, Obama’s a product of his environment.
That said, he doesn’t know where he belongs.
In Indonesia at a “madrasa” eh…seminary school.
Or in the Chicago Gutter er…Legislature.
Or the Senate…
Or ….where is my blankee….

Posted by: Saddam | December 13, 2008, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Somebody had to be on the other end of these recorded telephone conversations. The governor wasn’t by himself. I guess we now can exclude Bush, Cheney, McCain, Palin. I’m the list is longer. Time will tell. Isn’t this exciting to see your tax dollars at work?

Posted by: Don | December 13, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

Republicans won’t work with anybody and can’t be trusted to be fair about anything.
>>
ROFL.. Thats the funniest thing said yet. Obama surrounds himself with Democratic Bomb throwers like Dachle Rahmbo etc.. Republicans wont work with anybody. The problem with Republicans is they tried to be fair and give a little but democrats look at that as being weak and stab you in the back ASAP.
Lets look at the democratic record.
Completely democraticly run.
1) Chicago Murder capitol
2) Schools in disarray even though thousands are spent per student.
3) Roads a mess even though we spend tons on roads but spend nothing on mass transit to reduce the congestion.
4)The suppression of Free Speech. Who was Blago talking to fire the columnists?
5) Corruption. We have the Mob running the city. You have alderman in jail all the time. Precint captains to keep the population in line.
You have pay to play look like nothing until you realize they wont even pay the bills unless they get kickbacks.
If you as a normal citizen stand up and fight and your garbage doesnt get picked up or they start a water pipe project in front of your house. Maybe even a little tree triming to cut down your tree.
I beg the Invetigative reporters
draw the chart like they do Mob charts. We all know whos on top. Daley is the capo dei capi.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm

Huh writes, “Wow this thing just gets more interesting.”
==================================
Really? So you think normal conversations about who would succeed Obama are interesting? Even if they come back and say Emanuel was the one who went to the authorities because Blago said this or that what if anything does that prove? That he had normal conversations about succession? That he did the right thing by turning Blago in? This stuff is boring. It won’t get interesting until Blago speaks. That’s when things will get interesting and even then it is clear Obama is WAY TO SMART to do anything that would tarnish him image. In the end the Right would still need to fabricate something like Wright, etc. Stupid stuff to say the least.

Posted by: Dems | December 13, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm

Rahm Emanuel, DID NOT do anthing wrong and should remain President-elect Obama’s Chief of Staff!!!
The problem is Blago and Jackson!!!!
CASE CLOSED!!!

Posted by: sisterdearest09 | December 13, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

>>Illinios has had corruption for how
many years and how many politicians have been indicted or there abouts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Yeah and the democrats still run IL and Chicago. Funny how that works isnt it?
You would think if people were thinking corruption bad that they would vote out the democrats. But no corruption good. Grease the wheels. Its not until you see that they strong arm Childrens memorial for kick backs.
How about Mental health hospitas.
Obama was made by Emil Jones. Hows he doing?
You have to think he saw all this happen and did?
NOTHING.
If he wanted to impress me he would have starting fighting corruption in his own back yard and Obama did nothing but run for higher.
Rezko was known to be dirty. Thats OK
Blago Thats OK. How about Blagos father in law?
Madigan Lisa and her dad. Gee there is nothing like a family run business.
How about the Daleys.
Like I said it would have taken serious brass to act on the knowledge that all these people are dirty and do something about it. BUT no, Obama was too busy climbing the ladder pushing sideways through the corruption closing his eyes like Sargent Schultz from Hogans Heros.
I know Nothing.. Nothing..
Now where is my promotion.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Dems:
I agree!!!
Everybody should be waiting to see what Blago has to say!!!!

Posted by: sisterdearest09 | December 13, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Obama is very much involved in this scandal. How did Obama raise $750 million?
Jessie Jackson Jr. Was a top adviser to Obama. Jr. was co-chair for Obama’s presidential campaign. CROOKS. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN….LOL

Posted by: CW | December 13, 2008, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

“while no one is alleging…”, “this does not mean…”
Exactly what is the point of the artical then? I guess the accepted rules for proper journalism do not apply to articles created for blogs.

Posted by: zoe | December 13, 2008, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm

I’m with Huh. This stuff just gets more interesting.
I’ve got my popcorn and am enjoying the latest show – “Obama Gets Caught in Another Lie.”
Don’t get mad – it is what it is…
Boy, you can’t make this stuff up!:)

Posted by: leelee.again | December 13, 2008, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

we’ve seen sect rice get promoted for covering up for bush right in everyone’s face. why is there so much to do about nothing. if the stupid feds were smart, they would have waited until they had more proof of involment; but they just sounded the alarm; therefore was nothing really done except vulgar language of a gov expressing his opinion out loud. i feel that the feds should have waited until they had more proof; but when they saw obama not biting; they chose to get the gov instead. like prison torture, going after criminals and setting traps for people should be governed by rules and regulations as well. shucks…if they kept tappng my phone or sending people to entice me for a period of time, might come up with some garbage as well. people’s privacy laws need to be protected and if a so called free country, we are afraid to even talk because our privacy laws are being destroyed. I feel the feds, the gov’t and who ever is involved in spying on someone should be thrown in jail. nothing was said about the order given as to what they was supposed to be looking for. even a search warrent has specifics; but not wire tapping or demostic spying. You can’t just spy on someone until you get some juicy stuff on them. What was the feds looking for, should only be admissible in court.

Posted by: 666 | December 13, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

And he’s NOT even inagurated yet??? Who has Obama po’d… Already!?! Any thoughts??? This doesn’t come out unless somebody WANTS it to come out. At the very least Blago and Emanuel HAVE to go! If Obama can’t see that, then this isn’t “Change”, this is just buisness as usual!!! That just makes him another fraud. He has to be Presidential if he wants to be President.

Posted by: please! | December 13, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Dems – Yep it does seem to get more interesting by the day. I am not saying that your hero Obama is guilty of anything, and I think he probably isn’t but who knows. I have no love for either party. I am just an observer.

Posted by: Huh | December 13, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Who cares? Anybody who was involved with buying a senate seat should be banished from anything to do with the White House. The Governor should be hung from the capital states as a traitor to freedom! Selling the peoples voice is a tactic Hitler would have loved. Politicians need to see that selling our freedom and voice is a capital offense.
I hope the legal system works. I doubt it will. Chicago politics are a disgrace. This is a sad day for America.

Posted by: kennedy | December 13, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

roscoe02,
“Common Sense— sorry to disapoint you”
Er, you didn’t. Food’s on my family’s table with or without Obama’s 1, 2, 3, or 4 days pondering and investigating. Wouldn’t you say that is much better than ‘off the cuff’ remarks like ‘the fundamentals of our economy are sound’ and ‘the workers are the fundamentals of our economy’ (while Southern republicans fight AGAINST the American workers)?

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm

Huh,
Absolutely correct. Now following that train of thought, shouldn’t someone (Bush) who ignored intel and lied about why Americans should fight his daddy’s war be impeached and thrown in jail?
What about a guy who allowed his administration appointments to bail out his buddies with a policy consisting of a half sheet of paper (later revised to be 3 whole pages)?
What about a guy who appointed SEC’s chairman Christopher Cox who looked the other way while Paulson’s buddies pillaged our 401Ks and tank our stock market by not enforcing the laws of this great nation?
What about that?!

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

I can’t believe that all you folks are insinuating that “the one” had anything to do with this. He is lily white innocent in all of this. He was part of the Chicago political machine, but he is the ONLY one out of all of them that is truly, genuinely for the people and has integrity. He made his 750million legally for his campaign. Yeah right!!

Posted by: Bo | December 13, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm

Huh: Kennedy got off….he’s a lucky one! He probably should have hung.
I don’t care if they’re Republican or Democrat….Build the gallows!

Posted by: kennedy | December 13, 2008, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

please!
You want Emanual to go for NOT agreeing to deal with Blago? HE DID THE RIGHT THING.

Posted by: T | December 13, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Though I cant speak for the entire country since we are a republic..
How about IL Democratic convictions and investigations?
Lets take Govenors..
5 of the last 9 Govenors
Democrat
Otto Kerner, Jr. (1961 – 1968) Convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges.
Republican
George Ryan (1999 – 2003) Investigations into widespread corruption during his administration led to his retirement from politics in 2003 and federal corruption convictions in 2006.
Democrat
Dan Walker (1973 – 1977) In 1987 he was convicted of improprieties related to the First American Savings & Loan Association of Oak Brook. It was reported that he received over a million dollars in fraudulent loans for his business and repairs on his yacht, the Governor’s Lady.
Democrat
William Stratton (1953 – 1961) Was indicted for tax evasion in connection to his use of campaign funds, but he was ultimately acquitted n 1965.
Democrat
Milorad “Rod” R. Blagojevich (2003 – ???) The charges were for conspiracy and soliciting bribes. The case was related to solicitation for the nomination to replace former United States Senator Barack Obama, but extended well beyond this issue. Blagojevich has also been charged with attempting to extort the owners of the Tribune Company to fire editors at the Chicago Tribune. In addition he was charged with abusing his power over the release of $8 million of state funds to a children’s hospital under the belief that he might be able to obtain a $50,000 campaign contribution from one of its executives.
Now should we start with Alderman and Cook County board members?
How about
Paul Powell, That was special.
Dan Rostenkowski
The list here of what Democrats do for you is pretty good isnt it?
Corruption in IL is bad has been bad and no one can seems to care.
Its TIME to care

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm

Why is this article no longer on ABC News’ front page? Not even a related article on an existing article on the front page, not on the Politics page, not on the US page, can’t even find it searching the various sections on their main site. What’s up with that?

Posted by: MikeO | December 13, 2008, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm

Mr. Jake Tapper do you ever think before you incite hatred filled comments with your hidden suggestions in your political blogg? If the FBI examined thouroughly the subject and recorded all conversations, and are sure of who are the culprits than what gives you the rigth to suggest otherwise? Have you noticed that although you try to be fair by mentioning that the FBI never heard any deal making conversations between Obama’s aids and Gov Blago.: the rest of your article is full of provocative innuendos????? Your readers retain the innuendos and not the truth! Maybe Sarah Palin was right for once and journalism forgot about ethics!

Posted by: Cornelia | December 13, 2008, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

T,
Emmanuel should go if he refused to deal AND DID NOT REPORT IT TO THE AUTHORITIES. Although it is not a crime to not report a crime (which is why I stressed ethical not legal dilemma), if he, as a close advisor to the man about to be inaugurated as President simply said “I won’t play” and washed his hands of it, still leaving the door open for Blago to “sell the seat” to someone else is ETHICALLY WRONG and is not the message the Obama administration wants to send to the American public. “I personally won’t do it, but I won’t stop anyone else from doing it” is no way to “change politics” (which is what Obama says he wants to do) and is not the “change” the American public supposedly voted for.

Posted by: MikeO | December 13, 2008, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

HBOne -
Well, thank you!
I dunno about the right-wing blog thing since I am not a right-winger and you are on this blog too. Are you a right-winger?
It is true, I am patriotic, but then, I imagine you are too.
Now, I am sorry to inform you that I won’t be able to help you or Roscoe find a job. I serve this country in other ways.
However, I don’t think you guys should worry because I have heard from some Obama Supporters that Obama has promised us he will take care of all of our needs, i.e. mortgage payment, car note, gas, etc.
Isn’t that lovely???
Change We Can Believe In – Yes We Can!

Posted by: leelee.again | December 13, 2008, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm

>which is why I stressed ethical not legal dilemma.
I agree the taint they talk about isnt a legal problem but it is an ethical problem. When you lead a country from the bully pulpit you need moral authority. The president doesnt right laws nor does he appropriate money that is to be spent. He has the power of the veto and the bully pulpit.
If you become tainted as Bush did due to his weak and confused second term in office your voice no longer has strong relevance.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | December 13, 2008, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

Obama’s staff failed him and by extension Obama failed to explain fully the his involvement with the Govenor.
There is nothing wrong with Ram having passed on Obama’s list of candidates. Clearly, the list was supposed to be kept secret. In fact,one of the tapes clearly states that Obama would not play quid for quo. All the Gov stood to gain was Obama’s appreciation if one of the candidates were to be appointed that that was it.
I hope Obama makes things much more transparent in one more statement and then just leave it alone.

Posted by: Beto | December 13, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm

There is no need for any conversations between Rahm and Blago to be sinister. It could very well have been a simple expression of Obama’s wishes regarding Jarret to replace him in the Senate. That’s pretty routine in these matters.

Posted by: matt | December 13, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm

Are you telling me that Obama didn’t KNOW that Rahm gave OBAMA’s list of choices to Blagojevich?
Does this administration think we’re all morons? They have hours upon hours of phone conversations and these snippits just “come out of nowhere?”
How does it benefit anyone to bury this kind of corruption? The American people made their vote for a President who was supposed to be transparent and open. If that is no irrelevant to all of you, then why did we vote for him?

Posted by: new liberty | December 13, 2008, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

I think Obama’s motto of “yes we can” fits perfectly.
Can we buy a house that there is no way we can afford based on our salary – Yes we can! (if your Obama and you live in Chicago)
Can we lie about the contacts between Obama and his staff to Blags? Yes we can!
Can we get the press to buy any lie just because were Democrats? Yes we can!
Can we bring Chicago style corruption and stupidity to Washington? Yes we can!
Can we refuse to answer legitimate questions about this building scandal? Yes we can!
Can we dress up politics as usual and call it change? Yes we can!

Posted by: James | December 13, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm

MikeO
Fair point. Let’s wait and see how that plays out.

Posted by: T | December 13, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

James,
Quit listening to Rush and try to have an original thought.

Posted by: T | December 13, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

I personally want to hear the full nature of the any Emmanuel conversations with Team Blago. If Emmanuel was told that Blago wanted some sort of “sweet deal” but did not report to authorities that Blago was trying to “sell the seat,” I have a big problem with him being in a position of power and trust in this country (as I do anyone who would even accept corruption as status quo, worse yet of course if they actually are corrupt).
If Obama knew that Blago was trying to “sell his seat” and did nothing about it, I would have a problem with that, too. “That may be good for you, but not for me” is an acceptable philosophy when talking about matters of personal preference, but would not be good for someone intending to take the moral high ground in his approach to governing. He may have known nothing; we need full disclosure of all contact between the two camps before we can make any determination on that. I will withhold judgment and speculation until the facts are in; I do, however, demand to know all of the facts, especially from someone promising transparency.
There seem to be 3 basic groups of posters on this blog:
1) Those willing to declare Obama & his staff guilty before all of the facts are in, and stand ready to reject evidence to the contrary;
2) Those willing to declare Obama & his staff innocent before all of the facts are in, and stand ready to reject evidence to the contrary (note: this group is NOT simply innocent until proven guilty…it’s “he’s innocent, and I am unwilling to consider the possibility of anything else);
3) Those who think there’s enough known already to believe that the extent of the Obama team’s knowledge of Blago’s intentions has not been fully determined, and that full disclosure of all contacts is needed before any judgment can be rendered (note: this IS the innocent until proven guilty group that is willing to hear and weigh all of the facts in a reasoned manner).
I guess there is a fourth group that will try to steer the discussion away from this issue to whatever their personal axe to grind is (perhaps I should decry how unimportant this is relative to all of the baby seals clubbed to death each year to try to get us completely off topic).
God forbid I ever have to go to court for anything; I don’t know what the chances are of me getting a bunch of folks that fall in the 3rd group on the jury (unless I get lucky and get the group that will vote my way regardless of the facts ;) but that wouldn’t be fair). I would ask you all to reflect which group you fit into. Are you willing to rush to judgment (that includes guilt AND innocence) before you know all of the facts? If so, why? Is that a reasoned way to approach a controversial topic? Would YOU want to have someone rush to judgment on you?

Posted by: MikeO | December 13, 2008, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

Common Sense — If it takes Odrama this long to figure who on his staff said what to whom—— let’s hope he never get’s a 3am crisis call! Oh, but that’s right, the call won’t come to him, it’ll come to Hillary, and she’ll simply ask Slick Willie what to do since she’s already aware Odrama won’t be able to respond!

Posted by: roscoe02 | December 13, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

There is nothing wrong with Emmanuel giving Blago Obama’s wish list for his successor. The only problem I will have is if Blago then gave an “it’s going to cost you” reply and, although Emmanuel refused to play (which, by the tapes already released, seems to be the case) and then DID NOT REPORT BLAGO TO THE AUTHORITIES.
Can anyone tell me the answer to that? The answer, at this point, is NO, YOU CAN’T, because WE DON’T KNOW ALL OF THE FACTS.
As far as this article is concerned, there is a lot of speculation as to what is/isn’t known based on the already-revealed conversations and subsequent actions being taken by the parties involved, but guess what: THEY DO THAT WITH EVERY CONTROVERSIAL STORY THEY REPORT ON. Name one big story that has come out in recent history in which the media (regardless of which way they are biased…and they ALL show bias, just not all in the same direction) didn’t speculate or make inferences based on the facts they knew at the time. I can’t think of any.
Don’t get too wrapped around the axle on the fact that there is speculation in the actual article that is the topic of this discussion. Of course there is…that’s what they do.
This is why it is so important to be educated and informed and be able to tell when you are receiving facts and when you are receiving speculation and conjecture; too often, the public convinces themselves the speculation and conjecture are the facts.

Posted by: MikeO | December 13, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm

It appears to me that the spin-doctors, the media owners, and the others that persecuted Clinton; while granting bush a free pass to comittee any crimes his administration pleased are going to shadow, try to embarasse, and haunt Obama in preperation for the next races. I am sure that soon Obama fatigue will set in. Vush hid most of his dirty deals by leaving the country, acting stupis, and commenting on a a matter after it was public knowledge. The money is on the line; and you can bet that the poor will be abused, conned, badgered, and ridiculed, Trationally, those who rebelled were worse off than before after the rebellion was over.

Posted by: olin tucker | December 13, 2008, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm

You assume Hillary sleeps with Bill, yes?
‘The economy is fundamentally sound.’
‘I’m suspending my campaign to deal with the financial crisis.’
‘What I meant was, the American workers are the fundamentals of our economy’.
‘Meet Joe the Plumber’
Yeah. It’s definitely better to speak off the cuff instead of checking on what’s really going on, right?

Posted by: Common Sense | December 13, 2008, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

FACT: This scandal broke Tuesday. It is Saturday night, and Obama has yet to make full disclosure on what his staf did/did not know and/or say with whom.
CONJECTURE: Obama is trying to figure out how to “spin” a bad situation/Obama can’t get a handle on his staff/Obama is taking his time and thoroughly investigating the actions of everyone in his staff so he can make full disclosure.
CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE? Quit trying to put words in his mouth or attribute intent to his actions. We don’t know all of the facts yet. Quit being so quick to rush to judgment (either way).
At best, we could say something along the lines of, “It’s been almost a week since this scandal broke, and Obama still hasn’t made full disclosure on what his staff knew or didn’t know about this, and that concerns me. It makes it seems like he’s trying to hide something.” Or maybe, “I hope that he makes full disclosure soon. I don’t think he or his staff were involved in this, but I’d like to confirm it with the facts.” But I guess that wouldn’t give you the emotional release of anonymously ripping into someone who has a different opinion than you do.

Posted by: MikeO | December 13, 2008, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

First the media builds them up and then the media knocks them down. Hope Obama is prepared!

Posted by: gsjjs1 | December 13, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm

Emanuel and Obama did nothing wrong.they are clean and pure as the whitest snow.

Posted by: Sandy | December 13, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

Between Rezko and Blags, what are the odds that they don’t give up information on Obama? It seems pretty clear Rahm was on the recordings collected by Fitzgerald. Only the governor can fill in the rest of the picture. However, as concering as that is, the Rezko issue is potentially much more ominous for Barry. Barry buys his house for 300k below the asking price and Rezko pays an inflated price on the ajoining property – on the same day…After the seller said he would only sell if both lots were included…Huh, that is interesting. It looks like Fitzy has a lot of work left to do in Chicago.
How did the Obama saying go again. Something like “We are the change we have been waiting for”.

Posted by: James | December 13, 2008, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm

For the record…I did NOT vote for Obama and I totally disagree with most, if not all, of his politics. However, I am not going to vilify him based on pure conjecture and speculation. I would ask all of you if you are so blinded by your politics and opinions to pre-judge someone by assuming all of the facts (I would argue that Bush-haters fall in this category, too, as they seem to always try to pin even the most complex issues that have many facets solely on Bush). Oh, but I digress; I guess I, too, am guilty of getting off topic. I put myself on report :)

Posted by: MikeO | December 13, 2008, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm

Just imagine how “clean” all politics would become if our government could wiretap all government officials. Wait a minute…I think the old USSR has already tried that.

Posted by: NW in Tx | December 13, 2008, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Sandy said “Emanuel and Obama did nothing wrong.they are clean and pure as the whitest snow.”
Well maybe as clean and pure as the snow under a huge dog that just lifted it’s leg.

Posted by: Vic | December 13, 2008, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

More and more Obama team is involved but not, making it seem like they were fully involved and now have turned Blago over to the Feds on a silver platter in trade for keeping themselves all out of it.
Which is more like how Illinois and Chicago Polititics are played out.

Posted by: seah | December 13, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

The republicans are very smart in making people keep their minds on 1 thing, while something else is going on. Let’s not forget about Gov Palin who was found G U I L T Y, of abusing her authority. But nah, let’s focus the attention on the Dems, and at the same time cause friction for losing the election. Grow up feds, you should be going after Cox, Paulson, Bush, Cheney, and corporations which are taking away jobs and money from America.

Posted by: 666 | December 13, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm

p.s., One of the major reasons Obama was elected by white people was to clean up the character of America; the news media should be sequestered to report negative information about American political figures unless they have absolute proof. This type of breaking down the image of America will weaken the alreday negative opinion other countries have of it.

Posted by: 666 | December 13, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

I think that for a candidate who ran on a platform of transparency we are entitled to more then we are getting. I did vote Obama and i feel duped. While I am certain he didnt play ball he should’ve turned him in.
This reminds me of Elliot Spitzer who threw the book at so many yet crumbled under the same standards he set for others.
I guess its much easier to be a critic from the sidelines. But when youre in it, its tough.

Posted by: mo | December 13, 2008, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm

Common sense,
Your concern over the 150K wardrobe is
noted. How do you feel about the 700K
your messiah spent on constructing a stage in Berlin for ONE SPEECH?
Obama is a product of the same political sewer that spewed Blago.
He has supported him and campaigned for him in two elections. He knows full well what Blago is.
He met with him the day after the election. ( this is being covered up and stripped from web news accounts) Emanuel did talk with the gov about the vacant seat. Normally no big deal so why say these things did not happen? Why is he lying?
Why did fitzgerald stop the investigation before the payoff so he could get all the players. Looks like he was pressured or protecting someone.

Posted by: Greg MI | December 13, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

Well,
I’m neither democrat nor republican – I believe what I’ve read in the past: Abraham Lincoln (Republican) won the nomination for the presidency through some dirty political “help” when the issue was waving in the wind. John F. Kennedy was said to have received “paid for help” from the State of West Virginia that put him over the top. Both of these men did good things for this country. I think the issue at hand is ourselves. We’re getting about as good as we’ve given. “let him that is without sin cast the first stone.”

Posted by: tt | December 13, 2008, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm

Why indeed? Is Axelrod becoming the new Joe Biden? Axelrod said in November his boss had talked with Blago, then he said he was “mistaken.” Now he says Obama had Valerie Jarett in mind for the White House at the same time she was on the short list for the O man’s Senate seat. Expect the truth to take a detour every time with this crew in the White House. Why’s it taking so long to tell us what they knew right away? Must be because we’re stupid.

Posted by: moeursalen | December 13, 2008, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

A vigorous witch-hunt for shadows and vapors and much ado about nothing…yep typical frivolous right-wing antics, minus the shock and awe. It’s great to be an American.

Posted by: New England Patriot | December 13, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

>>>>A vigorous witch-hunt for shadows and vapors and much ado about nothing…yep typical frivolous right-wing antics, minus the shock and awe. It’s great to be an American.<<<<<
Where's the outrage from the perpetually outraged? It seems if this were Bush the press and the loony left would be having an orgasm over this. But it's the anointed one so no big deal…

Posted by: CW | December 14, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am

I hope Obama doesn’t take this long to make up his mind and act if the Russian’s start acting up. Can you imagine Obama managing the Cuban Missile Crisis? No? Neither can I

Posted by: Sandy | December 14, 2008, 12:18 am 12:18 am

if obama want to come clean he needs to get rid of RAHM and AXELROD beside him.everytime people see them they will remember this BLAGO corruption.
if you ask me about clinton, my first instinct says MONICA and WHITE WATER.
people only remember the bad things , not the good ones!

Posted by: coffee t | December 14, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am

When will the Radical Right realize that its propaganda machine is need of an overhaul? Casting doubts and dispersions is a one-trick pony. Really. Not that anyone is truly listening…

Posted by: Tutti | December 14, 2008, 12:48 am 12:48 am

*ahem lets try that again
When will the Radical Right realize that its propaganda machine needs an overhaul? Casting doubts and dispersions is a one-trick pony. Really. Not that anyone is truly listening…

Posted by: Tutti | December 14, 2008, 12:52 am 12:52 am

There is a common saying, ” Bird’s
of the same feather flock’s together.
What can people expect, Chicago has
the history and known for corruption.
Any politician who sleeps with Dogs
will surely gets the Fleas. Someone
revealed about a special Hand-shake in
Chicago. Their hands with palm up,
Meaning ” Where is Mine ” or the Mafia
Motto, I Scratch your back, You
Scratch mine, And, everytime Some
body do you a Favor, There is always a
pay back in the future. I think, the
Chicago Governor was asking the Dues
owes to him. which He believe, he
deserve the compensation. He has
planted some seeds, and it is time to
sow the fruit of his Labor. The chicago
corruption will never stop, as long as
those people will keep on patronizing
and supporting the Mafia operation,
to advance in Political gain or to
enrich themselves. This is a Taint,
that will completely Tarnish the image
of Politicians and Government official.
The peoples Trust, Respect & Loyalty,
will be very hard to earn in the
future election. This is very very sad.
This only shows, People will be feeling
lost, like sheeps, knowing not being
able to trust the person, who will lead
the Flock. I am appalled of what has
happened with a lot of people. They
have lost their decency and have cling
to immorality. They have sold their
soul to Greed and corruption. My wish,
is a 180 degrees turn in peoples
attitude, To start a New Year, a New
beginning, a New life. A sound and
prosperous Economy, Jobs for un-
Employed and Peace for the whole world.

Posted by: AveryConcernCitizen | December 14, 2008, 1:20 am 1:20 am

I read this over and I fail to see how this is a real issue for Obama if his staff did not play and opted out. Even if she knew about it she opted out and did not participate. Am I guilty if a hooker asks me if I want to pay and I say not interested or if a guy on the street offers me a watch for real cheap and I say no. Unless there is more than meets my eye this is a non-issue.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee | December 14, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am

rep or dem, doesn’t matter. They must be held to higher standards. If the average american does something illegal, they deserve punishment. If the foul ball is a result of an elected official, they should be punished far more strictly. No plea bargain and mandatory maximum sentence. Why should it be any other way. I’m so sick of corruption in our government. Let’s clean this stinking place up. Let’s see which politician votes against such “changes” If any politician disagrees, why?

Posted by: james | December 14, 2008, 1:42 am 1:42 am

Say it with me and get used to it……….President Joe Biden.
Its going to happen. Rezko and Blago will take the deal and Obama will take a hike…………Rham and Alexrod, jesse Jr. and a few others will all be either in prison or at Burger King.

Posted by: Jack Madoff | December 14, 2008, 1:44 am 1:44 am

seah 9:25:50 hit the nail on the head. Funny how the fact that Emanuel contacted Harris first seems to be glossed over. Why use a cell phone? I know that it’s illegal to call a legislator’s office for anything having to do with money-or a campaign unless it’s their campaign office. If Emanuel was on the up and up, maybe he should have called the Governor’s office. He did call-after it was bugged. Fitzgerald’s been trying to get Blagojevich since before he was elected the 2nd time-but just recently he starts bugging him?? Isn’t it true that Blagojevich tried to get rid of Fitzgerald several years ago and there was bad blood even before Tony Rezko?
The Obama team’s just saving their rear ends because they approached Blago first. And face it, who are people most likely to believe? PS…Obama’s guy contacted the Governor’s guy before the election for a “favor” and then uninvited him to the election night celebration. Fact.

Posted by: RL in Illinois | December 14, 2008, 2:35 am 2:35 am

One more thing. If it’s called pay to play when Blagojevich wanted a job for him or his wife in return for the senate seat, what’s it called when Obama gives cabinet and administration positions to people who endorsed him?

Posted by: RL in Illinois | December 14, 2008, 2:47 am 2:47 am

All politicians make deals when replacing someone. That’s what politicians do. That’s exactly why Obama and his man were talking to the governor. That’s why lobbyists talk to politicians. They make deals for money. That’s why Obama wants Bill Clinton’s donor list. Hillary is the deal for the money. That’s why Obama went for public donations. He made deals for money. Rush to impeach the governor. That’s a political deal because they can’t convict him in a criminal deal.

Posted by: Will A Cather | December 14, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am

Mr. Coffee,
Are you saying it’s OK for Obama to be a hypocrite or liar? You don’t “clean up politics” by allowing corruption to go on and just not playing yourself.
By the way, comparing you being propositioned by a hooker and not agreeing/not reporting it to the authorities, to the POTUS-elect (or his staff) being propositioned to participate in criminal political corruption and just saying “no” but not reporting it, is ridiculous. If you can’t see the difference, God help you.
I want to see/hear all the facts, because there is a lot to be suspicious about (which can result from the presence OR absence of facts). I think there is plenty that warrants the public’s suspicion, and we need to know more. I think it’s sad that many just want to be quick to dismiss it, saying he did nothing illegal, so leave it alone. As I stated in my original post…this, to me, is not about illegal vs. illegal (since it appears that Obama’s team didn’t do anything that was illegal); it’s about the moral/ethical character of Obama (and his staff) being willing to accept corruption in others while claiming to want to “clean up politics.” And I think this concern needs to be addressed. If all that matters to folks is legality/illegality, why do so many have problems with some corporations/individuals making extremely high profits/salaries (based on your definition of “high”)? It’s not illegal, and if they didn’t make those profits in an illegal manner, what’s the problem?

Posted by: MikeO | December 14, 2008, 6:43 am 6:43 am

Everybody knows that Rahm, being a highly ethical man, placed in a postion of immense trust by Barack Obama, would never do anything that even suggested anything but utmost probity. As soon as he realized that Blago, whom he hardly knew (har), was up to a felonious scam, he ran to a U.S. Attorney and filed an affidavit detailing what he knew. Have faith, Democrats. Would Barack Obama have chosen Rahm if he didn’t have absolute faith in his judgement?

Posted by: Mesquito | December 14, 2008, 7:00 am 7:00 am

RL In Illinois said: [[One more thing. If it's called pay to play when Blagojevich wanted a job for him or his wife in return for the senate seat, what's it called when Obama gives cabinet and administration positions to people who endorsed him?]]
It’s payback. To me, what he was doing for Valerie Jarrett — pushing her for his Senate seat abouve others more vastly qualified — is politics in its worst form. Hardly comes under his “changing the way we do business in Washington” claim. That’s anything but.
It defies credulity for Team O to say Obama had no contact with our good gov. (I’m from suburban Chicago.) O is almost in Clinton territory now. He’s saying he didn’t communicate. No, but you had your COS do it! Come on, we’re not all stupid.
I saw a timeline earlier this week. Two hour conversation about the Senate seat. That very night, (I think this was nov. 10) CNN reports that Valerie Jarrett NOW says she’s not interested. Something happened. I’m sure the feds know. And someday we all will, too.
BUt right now? Obama’s people are lying…

Posted by: Liz | December 14, 2008, 7:33 am 7:33 am

The wrong-turn right-wing troops are out in force…shouting unwashed untruths, silly wishful proselytizing, and unbridled loathing…Christmas is back with a vengeance. Amen.

Posted by: Slim Shady | December 14, 2008, 7:55 am 7:55 am

SCORECARD:
Obama acting ethically: 100%
People, you only reveal your own small sized character when you go on a rant about our President-Elect, without any evidence of wrongdoing.
Lighten up and wait a while. No one is perfect and I’m sure that Obama will do something actually worth criticizing.
Maybe you should spend less time criticising Obama and more thinking about why you haven’t accomplished more with your life.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am

Obama’s team tried to shut down opposing opinions voiced on St. Louis radio….no news coverage.
Obama claimed he did not hear Rev. Wright’s words…MSM accepted that.
Obama said he didn’t have many contacts with ACORN, Ayres, Rezko, ….MSM accepted that.
So why is the MSM reporting these stories of what Obama knew and when?
They are covering their butts, because there absolutely no investigative reporters during the campaign, just reporters with tingles going up their leg!

Posted by: Bobc | December 14, 2008, 8:14 am 8:14 am

“Maybe you should spend less time criticising Obama and more thinking about why you haven’t accomplished more with your life”
I’m Kool-Aid free since 1993!

Posted by: Mesquito | December 14, 2008, 8:16 am 8:16 am

“Maybe you should spend less time criticising Obama and more thinking about why you haven’t accomplished more with your life”
Just offering some constructive advice for the people writing here.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 8:28 am 8:28 am

“Maybe you should spend less time criticising Obama and more thinking about why you haven’t accomplished more with your life”
Some constructive advice for the people writing here.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am

That last question is just stupid. Valerie Jarrett was on the list because she was both interested in the Senate position and being in Obama’s White House. Thus the Obama team submitted her name.
I don’t think that is a big deal.

Posted by: Cameron | December 14, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

“This does not mean that Emanuel – Obama’s pick for White House chief of Staff – had attempted to make any deals with Blagojevich about the vacant Senate seat.”
The press had far more intellectual curiosity about whether Trig was actually Sarah’s baby than they do in something like this.
How embarassing.

Posted by: drjohn | December 14, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am

“The penalty should be death. This is treason at the very least. Betraying your country for personal gain is treason.”
Even though I am critical of the Republicans — for squashing any controls on the hedge funds and investment banks as they pushed their now toxic “mortgage asset backed securities” and “default credit swaps”, both of which provides a near limitless place to fence low quality mortgages — I think that Infidel goes too far here.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 8:41 am 8:41 am

really???

Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 8:54 am 8:54 am

“The press had far more intellectual curiosity about whether Trig was actually Sarah’s baby than they do in something like this.”
Drjohn,
Perhaps some in the press are mindful of the false accusations against Steven Hatfill regarding the anthrax murders.
This is what Hatfield’s lawyer had to say about it, after the Justice department reached a multi-million dollar settlement with the guy:
“Our government failed us, not only by failing to catch the anthrax mailers but by seeking to conceal that failure,” Hatfill’s lawyers said in a statement. “Our government did this by leaking gossip, speculation, and misinformation to a handful of credulous reporters.”
The credulous reporters, in this case, took a fact-free allegations of wrongdoing and published them as if they were proven.
PS. Sarah Palin will always be known as the QUEEN OF PORK.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 8:55 am 8:55 am

If Baby-face Obama’s mobsters and weasels are allowed to take office, within a year they’ll make the Bushcons look adorable by comparison.

Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Folks,
The larger issue here is this:
How many people actually knew what Obama was really all about before voting for him? How many people actually had all the pertinent facts about both candidates and their VP picks? There was more scrutiny about Sarah Palin in one month than there ever was about Obama’s beliefs and his past, and a lot of that scrutiny about Ms. Palin looked pretty biased and downright petty.
Zogby recently polled a sampling those who voted for Obama. The poll found that a majority of them did not know the issues very well. They even thought that the supposed quote from Sarah Palin that she could “see Russia from her house” was true. I do not blame the people who were polled for this; I blame the mainstream media.
The late Peter Jennings once said that it was his job to interpret the news for his audience. How many in our media believe the same thing? That to me is scary.
I am not saying that this is true, but what if it turns out a large part of Obama’s inner circle are a bunch of thugs? How could would that be for our country?
The fault for all the misinformation and all the bias in the past presidential campaign lies with the mainstream media. We are a great country, and we deserve to have unfiltered information on which to base our votes and our decisons as an electorate. What we need to do is demand a responsible, unbiased media, one that is up to the level of the American people, one that we deserve.

Posted by: pinger | December 14, 2008, 9:46 am 9:46 am

“I did vote Obama and i feel duped.”
Every person who voted for these mobsters, in the primaries OR in the General, WAS duped.

Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am

“What we need to do is demand a responsible, unbiased media, one that is up to the level of the American people, one that we deserve.”
Thanks to the surveillance state Obama voted FOR, nobody’s in a good position to demand ANYthing, especially “unbiased media”.
Besides, writers are a dime a dozen, with writers who can read AND write worth maybe a nickel more.
A citizenry not in a coma of incomprehension would have rushed out to tear up the freeways and block entry to “public” buildings on the very day The CHANGEling named Biden VP. But better late than never.

Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am

“If Baby-face Obama’s mobsters and weasels are allowed to take office, within a year they’ll make the Bushcons look adorable by comparison.”
Let’s review the facts.
1. Barack Obama hasn’t done anything wrong.
Oh wait, that is the only fact that matters. Blagovich was angry with Obama. Why?
Because Obama would not and did not trade anything with Gov. Rod.
To repeat: The small minded people who are trying to trash our President elect should spend more time thinging about why they haven’t accomplished more with their life.
They dishonor themselves and our country with their blind hate.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 10:02 am 10:02 am

“A citizenry not in a coma of incomprehension would have rushed out to tear up the freeways and block entry to “public” buildings on the very day The CHANGEling named Biden VP. But better late than never.”
Now I understand.
Bella Starr == Blind Sour Grapes
Bella, did you vote? You were certainly entitled to do so. But when did you decide that *your* judgement was the only one that matters?
Maybe Hillary should have been the candidate. Or if not that, then maybe Hillary should have been the V.P. But other people had the right to have their vote count too.
So far the only thing this Preident elect has done is put together the best cabinet in living history. And for that you criticize him. What a jerk.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 10:09 am 10:09 am

“Because Obama would not and did not trade anything with Gov. Rod.”
How could Rod knows this if he never had contact with Obama and/or his people?
buh-bye, Rahm.

Posted by: Mesquito | December 14, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

” … blind hate.”
Many who’ve followed the mob-friendly messiah’s decidedly UN-democratic rise to power have their eyes wide open.
Here’s hoping Fitzgerald and friends stay healthy, and manages to run the whole nest — of whom figure-head Obama, with his willingness to sell out the poor and black while touting his own marginal blackness, IS the most repellent — off a cliff.

Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am

“Many who’ve followed the mob-friendly messiah’s decidedly UN-democratic rise to power have their eyes wide open.”
There may be hope for you, Bella, in drug rehab.
You wish that your will could override all the other voters in the country. Then you say Obama’s “rise” (election) was undemocratic.
Open your own eyes, before you attempt to relieve others.
PS. Hillary’s people were the ones who wrote the rules that initially disqualified Michigan and Florida’s non-primaries.
I know you are still steamed about the DNC giving these states 1/2 of their delegates, but before this meeting FL and MI had ZERO, ZIP, NADA delegates. Such was the consequence of their grand-standing attempt to cut to the front of the line of primaries.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am

MSM: Pres Elect Obama, can you tell us about your involvement in the pay to play scandal?
BHO: Well…first let me make this perfectly clear…ah…I…ah only new Rahm Emanual from some…ah …projects we worked on together. He is a guy that just happened to be from the same state and city as me. In fact…ah…he was introduced to me by…ah…Bill Clinton and I am sure Ronald Reagan would have approved of that introduction. What we need to do is to step back and …ah… let the process here…ah…work to make sure we allow…ah transparency and we will find that the Bush administration is…ah and we don’t won’t to… ah start pointing fingers here but if they are involved in this then we need to know.
MSM: Okay thank you Pres Elect Obama.
There you have it folks.

Posted by: 1 Softball | December 14, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

“Zogby himself says the contract was signed ‘while he was away’ and that he would not agree to participate in a poll with such biased questions.”
Gosh, Zogby sounds a little like … the nasty-nice Obama, standing in the swill-running gutter with his skirts perpetually unsoiled.

Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am

@ 1 Softball: good one! :^)

Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am

It isnt my letter. But it does have some very interesting points if they are true.

Posted by: Bing | December 14, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am

What Obama said regarding Blagovich:
“Now, I’m also aware of your interest in the matter of the Illinois Senate appointment. Let me say that I was as appalled and disappointed as anybody by the revelations earlier this week.
I have never spoken to the governor on this subject. I’m confident that no representatives of mine would have any part of any deals related to this seat. I think the materials released by the U.S. attorney reflect that fact.
I’ve asked my team to gather the facts of any contacts with the governor’s office about this vacancy so that we can share them with you over the next few days.
Finally, on this matter, let me say that this Senate seat does not belong to any politician to trade. It belongs to the people of Illinois, and they deserve the best possible representation.
They also deserve to know that any vacancy will be filled in an appropriate way so that whoever is sent to Washington is going to be fighting for the people of Illinois. I hope and expect that the leaders of the legislature will take these steps to ensure that this is so.”
You have never heard such a concise, straight forward, intellegent response from George Bush.
Thank God, a better president will be in the Whitehouse Jan 21st.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am

“It isnt my letter. But it does have some very interesting points if they are true.”
You gotta wonder who-all’s talking to the forces of Fitzgerald. Let’s hope for Alice Palmer, a couple of generations of Jesse Jacksons, and a slew of administrative assistants.

Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am

an abc poster quotes The CHANGEling:
“[The people of Illinois] also deserve to know that any vacancy will be filled in an appropriate way … ”
Whenever Obama — who managed to buy the Democratic nomination and the presidency that came with it this year, and is now unconvincingly “appalled” at the sale of a single Senate seat — says “appropriate”, which is way too often, it’s apparently supposed to signal a shut-down of the media’s remaining critical faculties.
The harder they come, the harder they fall.

Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 11:20 am 11:20 am

“You have never heard such a concise, straight forward, intellegent response from George Bush.”
Sort of true.
He just kept you safe, and words don’t keep you safe.
You best pray Obama does the same.
So what happened to Obama’s promises to undo FISA and the Patriot Act?

Posted by: drjohn | December 14, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

“Just woorrrds just speecchhes” to quote a famous Pres. Elect

Posted by: 1 Softball | December 14, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am

drjohn:
9/11 never happened. 3000 American’s were kept safe.
Iraq never happened. 3000 of America’s bravest didn’t die there in a war to show George W’s was a BIGGER MAN than his dad.
The financial meltdown had nothing to do with a Republican administration that appointed “regulators” that thought the private companies should be free to push now toxic “mortgage backed securities” and “default credit swaps”.
Actually, this is all part of a brilliant Republican plan to increase military recruitment… by making all Americans so desperate for a job that they will want to be shot at.

Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

“So what happened to Obama’s promises to undo FISA and the Patriot Act?”
To quote poster 1 Softball, “Just woorrrds just speecchhes”.
The surveillance state is just Chicago, writ large. And with their newly-claimed PEBO powers, just IMAGINE what info the tinhorn tyrants of the “Obama” organization are collecting/suppressing at their ever-multiplying “interactive” websites.

Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

All this chatter means NOTHING to Independents. Independents will decide the NEXT Presidential Election as well. If the Republican Party still “thinks” this type of nonsense will do anything other than cause them to lose MORE seats and the next election they are sadly mistaken. To say this is idiotic is an understatement.

Posted by: Dems | December 14, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Of course they talked. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know anything about Chicago politics.
Rahm Emanuel took over Blago’s seat when Blago became governor. IT’s the Chicago patronage system.
Obama’s into the system up to his neck too. He won’t talk because he doesn’t want one thing to lead to another. HE’s trying to walk away. However, trying to walk away from teh Chicago patronage system is like trying to walk away from the Mafia. HIs saving grace politically is that these guys all want a crony in the white house, so it’s interesting to see who says what about whom. Very funny.
Get a clue.

Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Yeah, well we’ll see what Obama does with terrorists and all that when he sees what the real deal is at the national level for the first time.
I see he’s basically reconstituted the Clinton administration at the top. I figured as much. He’s as scared as a rabbit. It’s funny.

Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

What you say about Independents running things is true, Dems. I’m one of those Independents.
With Independents, a little bit of nastiness is de rigeur, not a problem. With Independents, performance is all.
Your man in Washington had better perform the way he said he would or we don’t elect him next time. That’s the bottom line. MOst Independents are not paying any attention to some little old film the Republicans have made–that’s for Republicans.

Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

So, I wonder what he conversations are like over at the FBI where they have all the tapes with Rahm Emanuel talking his little head off on them?????
This is so funny.

Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

It is now apparent to me, at least, that PEBO just passed through Illinois on time, had the car window down and they threw the key to his Senate office into the car! Knows nothing, never was really affiliated with his church, the political machine or his neighbors.
He is primarily a citizen of the world.
I am glad that this is finally cleared up – once and for all.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | December 14, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

AND, DontGet818,
If a) (what you propose) is the reality as far as Obama is concerned, another very interesting question opens up:
Who is really driving the bus???

Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

Choice b)
“he darned well knows better, which is almost certainly true and he played a part.”
Is certainly the better of the two for him, and for us as well, even though it’s truthful and might get him into hot water.
Who wants a Manchurian candidate????

Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Don’t get me wrong. I think it’s
b) Obama knew darned well what was being proposed in Chicago.
He might not want us to think he was so dumb he couldn’t figure that out. But I might be wrong.

Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

midwestlady looks like you have been talking to yourself for a while,
well i have something to say to you.
you talk about obama, and seem to want right to be done. etc,etc.
don’t you think it would be justice for bush to be brought up on war crimes?
that would be justice.
no wmd,no osama, lie, lie, lie,
bush for war crimes.

Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm

Gov. Rod Blagojevich has been deemed deranged for talking in expletives on tape. Rahm was deemed as colorful when he was using the language to get democrats elected. It will be interesting if he will be labeled as deranged if he mirrors Blagojevich’s demeanor on the tapes. The press has painted the new chief of staff into a corner. Let the spin begin. I bet Blagojevich serves his term!

Posted by: Amazed | December 14, 2008, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm

“I did not speak to the governor about these issues. That I know for certain.”
Isn’t this just the strangest sentence “That I know for certain” to use after a declarative sentence. It is as if he is very concerned about us (or him) believing him. I mean its weird. Who talks like that?
Lets have Blago, Stevens, Franks, Cunningham, and Dodd kllled for treason and be about our business. I am disgusted with politicians. They betray us at every turn.
Obama seems to have quite an interesting cast of characters to associate with. I sure hope he isn’t one of those apples who doesn’t fall far from the tree.
INfidel>
INFIDEL>

Posted by: Infidel | December 15, 2008, 4:27 am 4:27 am

What did Emil Jones have to pay for Obama’s senate seat? Must take quite a bit to “make” a senator if the candidate is basically unknown?

Posted by: confused | December 15, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Just how much payoff did blago get from the anti-smoking lobby to rush threw the illinois smoking ban……..and destroyed the livelihoods and reduced state revenues by this draconian law based upon fradulent science.READ osha on the second hand smoke issue,they claim it harms nobody…..but yet big pharam and robert wood johnson foundation make money off the state selling cessation drugs. they do it in every state that passes a statewide ban.

Posted by: harleyrider1978 | December 15, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am

BElle Star….Bush is not involved in the Chicago Thugs! Get it straight that is Obama’s stomping grounds. Don’t try to involve Our President in your Bo back street dealing. can’t stand to face the fact that we are now stuck with a thug for president with all the underworld connections. It is well known by people from Ilinois that their local gov. is ran by thugs and Obama is in the middle of it all.

Posted by: venita morgan | December 15, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Belle Star…Because Obama would not and did not trade anything with Gov. Rod.”
How could Rod knows this if he never had contact with Obama and/or his people?
buh-bye, Rahm………….
And you really believe every word that proceedieth out of his lying mouth. His ah words ah tell ah you ah that he is making it up as he goes for fear he will be found out. You people are so gullible. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: beeta | December 15, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

WHAT A SHOCK *NOT*
Of course there were talks! Don’t you think opinions would be shared between the two? DUH!

Posted by: Dave | December 15, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Obama is supposedly a lawyer and speaks lawyer lingo. “I never….” Doesn’t mean one of his staff didn’t talk to the governor about the senate seat with Obama’s full knowledge. Anyone who believes these Chicago crooked politicians need to take their head out of the toilet….Chicago politics at its best. corruption after corruption.

Posted by: American | December 15, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

The answer to all of these questions is simple. Corruption!
Obama is corrupt as a $3 Bill!

Posted by: BigBingo | December 15, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

The answer to these questions is simple: Baloney. Republicans will manufacture reasons to criticize Obama.

Posted by: Burdock | December 15, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

The true colors of the liar Obama are coming out into the open albeit a little too late.
Yet, the duped who voted for this sly snakeoil salesman will defend him even as he brings down America and we all have to live under a totalitarian Socialist government.

Posted by: Elaine | December 15, 2008, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Chicago has a long record of producing sleazebag, corrupt politicians.
Axelrod told the nation a few weeks ago that Obama had, in fact, spoke with Blago. Suddenly, Axelrod does a 180, saying Obama didn’t talk to Blago.
Bottom line? Obama rose to power by playing ball with Chicago politicians. Those who don’t pay in Chicago don’t play in Chicago.
The only CHANGE we’re going to see out of the Obama camp is America more quickly spiraling down the tubes.

Posted by: steve | December 15, 2008, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

This is just taking us away from the real issues… and even though Obama came from this political slime machine he obviously wasn’t involved… and you’re racist for asking questions… and Fox News is bad… and Bush is the worst president ever… and conservatives are stupid… and, and Carl Rove… and did I mention Haliburton? HOPE and CHANGE!

Posted by: Phil McKraken | December 15, 2008, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Google “Another Chance at Compensation” That is something to talk about!

Posted by: Seth | December 15, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

All you kool aid drinkers will be huddling in the corner sucking your thumbs by the time you figure out what and who you just elected to lead our country into the pit of hell.
God help us…nothing good can be found in Chicago politics. Its a corrupt and power hungry bunch who disregard everything and everyone…they are cut throat and we have only seen the tip of the iceberg!

Posted by: AZNativeGrandma | December 15, 2008, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm

Who cares? Do republicans really think this is the start of their comeback? Not after the way they treated auto industry working people trying to keep their jobs.What a bunch of bottom feeders.

Posted by: Mickey | December 16, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

Yeah Mickey! Let’s go off subject, only a good lib like yourself could take a story exhonerating Obama and turn it into a Bush is Bad story. Keep on defending those union automakers making $75 an hour, over 1000 of which get that for not even showing up to work. As for this union worker the IBEW only gets me $37.14 an hour.

Posted by: Quagmire | December 17, 2008, 9:09 am 9:09 am

I told you so months ago but you erased my post.
You really can’t take a punch !!!!

Posted by: John | December 17, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

I think that the Obama/Emanuel team are trying to discredit Blago in the public’s eye by using the press to disseminate false info and misleading stories, because he wouldn’t confirm their candidate Valerie Jarrett. Now they want him to quit before he goes public in court about their misbehavior.

Posted by: stevonovitch | December 27, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am

How much are we going to allow to be justified with BS America?
How many more media lies will we believe.
When will the political officials be held accountable for their Lies and be removed by US the voters?
Will “We The People” ever take control of our country back from the corruption that now controls it?
Are we to remain passified for ever?
Obama LIED BEFORE IN
OFFICE
Bush LOST IT
Clinton LIED MULTIPLE TIMES
AND
DESTROYED THE MORALITY AND CREDIBILITY FOR THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
What is next?
By the way you auto works making $75.00/hr
be careful in the re distribution of wealth your jobs do not get move to MS,LA or AK where they can hire 3 people to replace you. This will create jobs, 3 to 1. This will re distribute the wealth, your considered rich by the dem’s you make more then $120,000.00 a year. If your Magic Obama does this you just may have voted yourself out of a job. He will live up to his commtments and look like a Dem hero.

Posted by: SFGA | January 1, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am

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