Exclusive: Obama’s Blago Report: Only One Rahm Call to Governor
Sources tell me that the Obama team’s review of contacts with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich will show that Rahm Emanuel had only one phone conversation with Blagojevich.
The contact, described as a "pro-forma" courtesy call, came as Emanuel was named Chief of Staff for Obama. Most of the discussion concerned Emanuel’s Congressional seat (which had previously been held by Blagojevich), with only a "passing reference" to the Senate vacancy, according to these sources. No deal for the Senate vacancy was discussed.
Speculation in Washington and Chicago has been swirling for a week now over what the Obama team’s report would find. Until now, the contents of that report have been kept sealed, at the request of the U.S. Attorney’s office. Last Wednesday, Obama said he found it “a little bit frustrating” that the report had not yet been released.
The sources add that the report will show Emanuel also had four phone calls with Blagojevich Chief of Staff John Harris. During those conversations, the Senate seat was discussed. The pros and cons of various candidates were reviewed, and the sources say that Emanuel repeatedly reminded Harris that Blagojevich should focus on the message the pick would send about the governor and his administration.
Sources also confirm that Emanuel made the case for picking Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett during at least one of the conversations. In the course of that conversation, Harris asked if in return for picking Jarrett, "all we get is appreciation, right?" "Right," Emanuel responded.
Bottom line: these sources say that Obama’s report, which is expected to be released this week, will confirm what Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and President-Elect Obama have said — and what Governor Blagojevich clearly believed: that Obama officials were not open to any kind of deal for the Obama Senate seat.
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This would appear to be in conflict with CBS’s “Blago Case Bad News For Rahm” story.
And by the way, after watching NY’s Gov. Paterson on Moyer’s Journal, I’m starting to feel the democratic party has been had there as well.
Posted by: jan | December 21, 2008, 8:34 am 8:34 am
Unless the press has any additional information to the contrary, leave Obama alone on the issue of Blago. The Precidency is busy as it is already. Let’s focus on how to save this country from the Bush mess. There is no time for speculation…just report facts.
Posted by: Stephen | December 21, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
We have to parse every word carefully. For example, only One Rahm Call to Governor but four phone calls with Blagojevich Chief of Staff John Harris.
Posted by: young_voter | December 21, 2008, 8:44 am 8:44 am
What exactly was the discussion about Emanuel’s congressional seat? What was the favor that the Governor thought Emanuel wanted with regard to that seat?
Posted by: mls | December 21, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
That’s not what other reports are saying, and if that’s all there was to it (a “courtesy call”), then how could releasing that information interfere with the investigation? This has the potential of becoming Watergate II.
Posted by: MadeInUSA | December 21, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
Obama had a very cozy relationship with Rod Blagojevich. Let’s wait and see what more turns up. Anything can happen. I agree with MadeinUSA that his has the potential to become Watergate II.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Obama supporters need to wise up! More Chicago thuggery at play here, and the only “change” in sight is the thugs are moving to Washington! Media continues to assist in sweeping the proverbial dirt under the proverbial rug. Once Obama installs all Clinton’s old cronies it will all boil down to what “is, is.”
Posted by: Marilyn | December 21, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Since we know all the conversations were taped, everything is documented for investigators and will come out to the public.
Investigators have already said that Rahm and Obama are not targets of their investigation.
Posted by: perk235 | December 21, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Sorry Jefffish again those who want Obama to fail dont get it , he did NOT have a cozy relationship with Blagojvech, for the past two years they had a pretty distant one. We in Illinois know this. He did campaign for him , in 2002 but that is because Raymond Burress his first choice didnt get the nod. Gads stop looking for what doesnt exist. Why would not have Rahm called Blago on the senate seat. ???? Look at all the behind the door chat going on over Caroline Kennedy
Posted by: Carramea | December 21, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Obama’s relationship with Blago was anything but cozy. The right wing is desperately trying to weave some sort of corruption by the Obama people into this and it just isn’t going to happen. The true colors of the Republican party are shining brightly as we enter a new era of government in Washington and the country. It is clear that their sole objective will be to dishonor and bring down the new administration and Congress, any way they can. This is why they have lost so much respect and so many elections recently. Sadly, it will never change. Good riddance.
Posted by: JRS | December 21, 2008, 9:21 am 9:21 am
Somehow some people think that they are privy to every conversation, private or not, that every politician has. The tapes will be released in good time as this case goes forward. It is obvious that there will be a trial now. Once that happens the right wingers will once again be found with egg all over their faces. Go help Bush with his library, stay out of these matters if all you can contribute is hatred and suspicion without any evidence.
Posted by: JRS | December 21, 2008, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Emanuel’s calls were caught on wiretap. We will then know if Obama’s and Emanuel lie. I think Obama will lie cause he is a major liar. I have caught him in so many lies during the campaign and at he even lied 3 times about his own family. The media glossed over his lying as they glossed over everything else about him. I predict that Obama’s Presidency will be filled with one unfavorable relevation about him after another because our corrupt media didn’t do their homework on a guy we didn’t know anything about. So now we will have to find out about him the hard way. It’s too bad too, because our country desperately needs a President with some balls who will go in an solve our problems and not someone who will endulge in yet more corrupt betrayal. But, I am from Illinois where we are trying to get rid of our corrupt governor, Blagovich, who refuses to do the right thing for Illinois and resign. So I don’t have any confidence in government and I don’t pin my hopes on Obama who crawled up from the same corrupt slime pit as Blagovich, Chicago.
Posted by: Sandy | December 21, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
The title is misleading: “only one Rahm call…” Upon reading the article, it tells of other calls. Why the misleading title?
Don’t “lay off Obama.” We know nothing about this guy and his agenda. This story must be followed closely.
Posted by: tina | December 21, 2008, 9:26 am 9:26 am
Its interesting how Stephanopolis and others whose job it is to be a journalist at the station do not report on or feel that Obama officials are not to blame for starting the entire Senate replacement issue by demanding that Valerie Jarrett be appointed within a specific period of time. This my friends, was the start of this whole mess, and Boss Obama is to blame.. The Governor pushed back.
Posted by: Democrat Lauren | December 21, 2008, 9:32 am 9:32 am
Okay, so once again it’s confirmed that Obama’s team was not bargaining for a senate appointment. What more do the conspiracy theorists need? A picture drawn for them? A personal meeting with Fitzgerald? Cheez!
Posted by: hey Scoob | December 21, 2008, 9:34 am 9:34 am
jeff fish did you listin to the tape and heard what the governor said about obama
Posted by: dike from canada | December 21, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
Obama supporters need to wise up! More
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Get over yourself! The only wising up to do is by you.
Good grief, there is not one bit of evidence, thaty Obama or anyone from his staff tried to pay the creep off.
Get a life and move on.
Posted by: Thinking | December 21, 2008, 9:40 am 9:40 am
Ahhhh, bummer for rabid republicans hoping for an early crash and burn. sandy – Isn’t our country already doing poorly enough to where you’d think you guys wouldn’t wish for more just for partisan reasons?
Posted by: Susan-1 | December 21, 2008, 9:43 am 9:43 am
And here’s another thing: The article said Emanuel made a case for Valerie Jarrett during one of the calls. Well, there is absolutely nothing illegal or unethical about that. In fact, the report says that it was made implicit that there would be no quid pro quo. And in fact, it would be normal for the outgoing Senator make a recommendation. Could there have been some subtle undertone? Well, maybe, but life is full of those, what are ya going to do, chase down every little innuendo you imagine or suspect? Get real.
Posted by: hey Scoob | December 21, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
Obama and Blago have no connection, get over it.
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Posted by: #1 Democrat | December 21, 2008, 9:49 am 9:49 am
The people who like to occupy the gossip mill can be annoying at times, but more often are simply amusing. They live for intrigue, back-stabbing, and rumor. Substance has no place in their lives, reality is beyond their reach…When someone produces some credible evidence that there is proof of impropriety as far as Obama and Blagojevich are concerned, it will be news. Right now, the tabloid junkies are feeding off of media speculation and garbage. Like rats in the trash.
Posted by: Mike | December 21, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
I thought Obama said there were NO contacts. Now we see the second part of an all too common theme with Obama. First, deny – then admit some contact – and finally we will find out that, yes indeed, there were numerous contacts. If this is not an out and out lie by Mr. Obama it will soon turn into one as he tries to cover up those contacts. This is just plain stupid on Mr. Obama’s part. There were conversations between his staff and the governor over who was going to be named to his senate seat. Why would he deny that? Why wouldn’t he just state what should seem obvious and expected, that there were contacts but then deny any wrong doing on the bribe side.
Again, if this an example of Mr. Obama’s supposed intelligence then we have all been had by an idiot. To borrow a saying that was used to describe Bush; somewhere in Africa a village is missing its idiot.
Amateur night at the white house….
Posted by: James | December 21, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
None of this matters because Obama will never become President. He is not a Natural Born Citizen. His father was British and Obama was born with dual loyalties to Britain and USA. We did not fight for independence from Britain to have a Born British citizen be President. The Supreme Court will never allow Obama to be President because it is against the Constitution. All laws by Obama would be illegal. The military is instructed by the Constitution to NOT OBEY any orders from such a non president.
The military swears to uphold the Constitution and would be required to remove an usurper to the Presidency. The USA does not need such a Constitutional Crisis at this time.
Posted by: Democrat All My LIfe | December 21, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
And the drumbeat goes on!! The anti-Obama “know-nothing”, the bitter losers and the just plain sickos never seem to know when to give up.
Posted by: Herb Gray | December 21, 2008, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Nothing here that’s worthy of consideration, unless chasing after smoke and fumes is new the standard for the disillusioned.
Posted by: New England Patriot | December 21, 2008, 9:56 am 9:56 am
James – perhaps it’s just that they’re soooooo busy putting out fires, and working more than ANY incoming administration due to the current situation, that they got their wires crossed? The amateur is leaving.
Posted by: Susan-1 | December 21, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
OMG, one phone call!!! Here comes Seatgate!!!!! Scandal alert!! Scandal alert!!! Scandal alert!!! What did Obama know and when? Scandal alert!! Scandal alert!! Cover up!! Cover up!!!
Posted by: w_roos | December 21, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
…is the *new* standard…
Posted by: New England Patriot | December 21, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
susan-1 said, “Ahhhh, bummer for rabid republicans hoping for an early crash and burn”
Not at all, this case is still going forward as well as the Rezko case. We also have Bill Richardson being arraigned for similar pay for play politics. Then of course there is Charlie Rangle who has also shown he is on the take. We also have Terence Bean who was a major player in the Obama fundraising efforts who is the owner of several Gay Porn studios. The birth certificate issue is still before the supreme court. The death of Donald Young is still being investigated in Chicago. Larry Sinclair might still come by to “service” Mr. Obama.
So no, this is just the first salvo in what will be a very long, very tough, four years. We simply elected a man who has a very muddy background. Sooner or later one of these issues will pop up. And believe me, the list I put together is not all inclusive. There are more.
Posted by: Fred | December 21, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Our of curiosity where were you people during the Bush years? They can out spies and what do you do? Demonize the spy. This is ALL about some overload on partisan.
Posted by: Susan-1 | December 21, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
Take a deep breath. Every person participating in this better pray that Obama succeeds. Our lives depend on it. And it is our responsibility to pick up a shovel find ways to cooperate in rebuilding our nations ethics, reputation and operational moral mores. The past will be history if enough people now, in a thoughtful, positive way, pay attention and make sure transparency reveals each step in our country’s recovery from “sleeping at the wheel.” We’re in a ditch; help make it right through action, not criticism. That is mainstream, not “left” or “right”, as amateur muckrakers and media like to jargon. This is not a game, folks. Stop acting like it is!
Posted by: Alena | December 21, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Alena,
Nice comment, you attack the current administration and then ask that we all leave the partisanship at home. That is not the way to end the politics of personal destruction. In fact, you have just given the green light to those who feel compelled to attack Obama. Why should Democrats get to attack Republicans and Republicans not have that same right to return the attack?
Mr. Obama has to understand that he will need to control his supporters if he has any chance to foster a “loyal opposition” instead of an opposition that is out for the same blood they have seen extracted from them.
Posted by: Fred | December 21, 2008, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Watergate II? Wow, you people either aren’t paying attention or you’re not very bright. Take your pick.
Posted by: Jake | December 21, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
Some people on all sides of the political spectrum seem to be delusional. They are swimming in the air.
Posted by: narumanchi | December 21, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
No t sure if this adds up. What of the earlier reports that Emanuel was calling Blago daily for a period after the election? Nothing criminal here, but there remains unanswered questions about the extent of the Obama-Blago contact.
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Posted by: matt | December 21, 2008, 10:19 am 10:19 am
Fred? The difference? The “current” administration has been attacked on the sorry job they did. Obama? You guys are foaming at the mouth wishing for bad. Give him a chance. I know an awful lot of people hurting right now. It’s best for all of us if he’s successful? And if you really want to nit-pick? Did you guys sleep thru the Clinton years? I recall him getting plenty of picking.
Posted by: Susan-1 | December 21, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
What happened to all that talk about getting behind the president and putting aside the non partisan stuff?
I could understand if there was some real evidecne but at this point there is just speculation there will be some evidence at some point.
Reminds me of the speculation about Bill Ayers.
Posted by: Mike Snell | December 21, 2008, 10:23 am 10:23 am
This stuff is so funny! You can’t make this up :) The Obamanites don’t want to admit that the wool was pulled over their eyes, and the rest? Well … we get to work on our ‘I told you so dance’ :)
The coming depression is going to be sooo much fun with him!
Posted by: PatrickHenry | December 21, 2008, 10:25 am 10:25 am
Emanuel Rahm looks like a crook to me. Of course he is from Illinois and most politicians there are crooks.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
Whether good or bad, you’re better off facing it and getting it over with. making nice and pretending everything is okay is what has been done continually for the last 8 years and we can all see exactly where it has gotten us.
Posted by: jan | December 21, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am
The United States stands on the bring of destruction. For the last 78 years our government has in essence bought our votes through an ever expanding social welfare system and special interest giveeaways that has led our nation to bankruptcy. Our debt, in pursuit of these ineffectual programs and politics as usual, has left us 12 trillion in the hole. The interest every year on this debt is nearly 500 billion dollars. Mandates made as far back as FDR continue to limit the options each subsequent administration has at its disposal to address the problems we face.
Now, when we are near the precipise we elect a man that wants to recreate the so called “great society” that got us into these failed policies in the first place. This will not end well. Our nation would be much better off if Mr. Obama was removed by scandal. If not this one then any of the others that are lurking out there. We cannot afford another four years of ever expanding government while our politicians continue to engage in pay for play politics. Mr. Obama has already shown that he is part of that corrupt culture even if he is cleared in this particular case.
We need someone who is truly committed to reform, not someone who uses change simpy as a campaign slogan.
Posted by: James | December 21, 2008, 10:29 am 10:29 am
I have never seen a President before entering office to have so much scandal facing him and his people. I think we are in trouble in this country. We elected the wrong man. Should have elected someone else to run as a democrat. Hillary would have been better. John Edwards would have been a good choice if he could keep his zipper zipped up.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
Democrat all your life boy are you angry a black guy made it to presidency. You sound like a traitor to me. Maybe you should be tried as one. Our military shouldnt follow the president because hes not a natural born citizen? Are you one of those gun clingers ? The man is a citizen of Hawaii which last time I checked is the USA……. He did have dual citizenship in Kenya and that expired at 21. So what? The Supreme Court has declined to hear every case that your nut balls bring up on this issue, including Bergs which was thrown out last week. Or dont you read. YOu going to church this morning ? I Hope not your a disgrace. Traitor
Posted by: Carramea | December 21, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Democrat all your life boy are you angry a black guy made it to presidency. You sound like a traitor to me. Maybe you should be tried as one. Our military shouldnt follow the president because hes not a natural born citizen? Are you one of those gun clingers ? The man is a citizen of Hawaii which last time I checked is the USA……. He did have dual citizenship in Kenya and that expired at 21. So what? The Supreme Court has declined to hear every case that your nut balls bring up on this issue, including Bergs which was thrown out last week. Or dont you read. YOu going to church this morning ? I Hope not your a disgrace. Traitor
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You are sick, sick sick sick. You do not know what you are talking about.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Alena, that was my point. You continue to attack those you disagree with and then ask that we not attack Mr. Obama. Do you really believe this is an effective strategy?
If Mr. Obama was a real leader like Ronald Reagan or Dwight Eisenhower, he would understand that you need everyone committed to fixing the problems our nation faces. However, Mr. Obama has not once told his supporters like you to back off. In fact, he seems to be encouraging people like you to attack president Bush and Governor Palin and others in the opposition. This is just stupid politics on his part and you are one of the foor soldiers in that soon to be failed approach.
This issue is a proxy for that self chosen war that Mr. Obama seems so intent on creating.
Posted by: Fred | December 21, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
As I recall James we were running at a surplus under the Clinton years and most of us were working. What has happened the last 8 years is not what the founding fathers has had in mine. What has happened the last 20 years a class society run by the rich ceos is not what I want
If it means a bit of socialism so be it. The Greedy Wall Street people show they have NO trouble with socialism , nor Sarah Palin and the Alaskans that get their share of the till everyyear.
IF this is capitalism count me out
Posted by: Carramea | December 21, 2008, 10:37 am 10:37 am
It’s unfortunate there are so many who obviously are puppet’s of the two individuals most inclined to bring down a duly elected government of the United States, before it even takes office. Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and of course the others who mimic these idiots on the daily right wing radical talk shows. From the moment this Blagojevich story broke, Limbaugh and Hannity within the hour had become judge, jury and executioner and proceeded to fan speculation into a raging inferno totally without a single fact other than what had already been released to the media by the officials investigating. It would be a revelation if constructive analysis were to be offered up by these idiots for a change, however that would defeat Rupert and James Murdoch’s (the liberals who own FOX and related radio stations), purpose. They have found and are capitalizing on a niche market all the way to their banks. I love the hypocrisy. But of course, if they were to report just the facts, instead of the spin and lies and speculation, they would become just another mundane news source which certainly wouldn’t help the Murdoch’s bottom line.
Posted by: devilkev | December 21, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Where is the proof that Obama is a “major liar”?
So much disdain for someone you don’t know.
Posted by: nonnarrowminde | December 21, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Watergate II? Who’s passing out the double-strength Kool-Aid today?
Posted by: Phillybits | December 21, 2008, 10:44 am 10:44 am
@nonnarrowminde
Where is the proof that Obama is a “major liar”?
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Obama is from Chicago. Name one politician from this city who is not a “major liar”. Please….pretty please…
Any name you put out there will be researched and a dozen links to improper use of government trust will be provided, IE: lying.
Posted by: Jim | December 21, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
If you are waiting for Obama to be ousted from his new Mr. President position, you’ll be waiting a long time for that kind of dirt to surface, especially when it’s not there! Obama is not a stupid man, Blago is!
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Barefootboy I am not sick at all buddy. I read a comment from Democrat all my life who says that the Military should not follow Obamas orders because of the crazy story the same nuts (remember the Hes a Muslim story? ) say hes not a natural born citizen.
That is a sick sick comment buddy boy ( by the way you a gun clinger too? ) To suggest that our military not follow the commander in chief is treason.
Just as how Secretary Paulsen gave away our money so bankers could get bonuses
Banks that are getting taxpayer bailouts awarded their top executives nearly $1.6 billion in salaries, bonuses, and other benefits last year, an Associated Press analysis reveals.
The rewards came even at banks where poor results last year foretold the economic crisis that sent them to Washington for a government rescue. Some trimmed their executive compensation due to lagging bank performance, but still forked over multimillion-dollar executive pay packages.
Benefits included cash bonuses, stock options, personal use of company jets and chauffeurs, home security, country club memberships and professional money management, the AP review of federal securities documents found.
Paulsen needs to be thrown in jail for treasonous acts against the US too
Posted by: Carramea | December 21, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
I always knew the Democrats were corrupt to the core.
Posted by: foreign observer | December 21, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
I know some of you don’t want Obama to be your President, but he IS, and will be for 4 years, hopefully 8!! Tune in Jan. 20th!!
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Let he without sin, cast the first stone
Posted by: nonnarrowminde | December 21, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Obama is from Chicago. Name one politician from this city who is not a “major liar”. Please….pretty please…
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Posted by: Thinking | December 21, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
liz said “Obama is not a stupid man, Blago is!”
If Mr. Obama is not stupid or tone deaf then why would he have bought a house for $300k under value while Tony Rezko bought an adjoining lot on the SAME day for a price that was significantly over the value of that property? From a seller who demanded that both properties be sold together? Now, the press has done a yeomans job of running interference, protection, and outright advocacy for Mr. Obama but how long can that last?
“My mamma always told me, stupid is is stupid does” FGump
Posted by: James | December 21, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Carramea, as a veteran of 27 years, I think you are wrong. I don’t think Obama was born in Hawaii and really don’t think he should be President. I think he will sink this country lower. Also you mentioned things being so good under Clinton. I liked him but also know that many of the things he started has just now caught up with us and put us in this shape. NAFTA was signed by him and I remember when all that was going on people telling him it was the wrong thing to do and both parties backed him. I don’t think Obama will serve past one term.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Rahm Emanuel made *a* phone call! Quick, fire up the right-wing press! Convert to scandal mode, form of – a moron!
In other news, the US tortures – Zzzzz
In other news, we invaded a nation on false pretenses – Zzzzz
In other news, this admin. outed a spy. – Zzzzz
In other news, there’s a huge financial crisis going on caused, in part, by the current admin. – Zzzzz
In other news, the current admin. is more secretive than any other. – Zzzzz
But Obama farts and forgets to tie his shoe and people are singing “We told you so?”
Unreal.
Posted by: Chachi | December 21, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Emanuel and the rest of the mob Chicago political machine all has had contact with the dishonest Illinois Governor, but somehow Obama is the only one immune from scrutiny, because he and his lawyer “say so”.
Same old same old. Thou shalt not question the Lord God Obama
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Obama is knee deep in this. It sounds like he and Blago were in negotiations for the seat. Blago wanting a cabinet seat and Obama wanting to pay less for the seat choice. I wish they would release all tapes in full. I love how Obama’s little story is changing…at first he said he and his had nothing to do with it, then we find Rahms fingerprints all over it, then we find out about the Obama’s list….there is more there. Just getting it all released is the problem.
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Fred – You said “In fact, he seems to be encouraging people like you to attack president Bush and Governor Palin and others in the opposition.” I would love an example of what you speak of here. Seriously, name one thing that you heard out of his mouth that encouraged anything negative on Bush or Palin. Palin – the woman that was in herself a rabid attack dog on Obama. While he said nothing back I might add.
Posted by: Susan-1 | December 21, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Mr. Obama has been a serial liar. Why should we suddenly trust him now? He already presumed that Governor Blago is guilty even before the case is heard in court. How would Mr. Obama feel if we say he’s guilty even before he has his day in court.
Posted by: young_voter | December 21, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Many of you really don’t like Obama, do you? When Bush took office, there were just as many haters and dirt diggers. There will ALWAYS be in politics! Don’t let it get under your skin. Isn’t today church day? Get off this board and go to church! That’s what I’m gonna do! Everyone ALWAYS has an opinion about the new incoming President! But Obama will still be OUR President come Jan. 20th!!
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
Oh btw, “appreciation” sounds like mob payoff code for something. The mob notoriously had many of these type code words that the feds have recorded for decades. You know like Obama sending federal money toward Blago.
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 11:03 am 11:03 am
Many of you really don’t like Obama, do you? When Bush took office, there were just as many haters and dirt diggers. There will ALWAYS be in politics! Don’t let it get under your skin. Isn’t today church day? Get off this board and go to church! That’s what I’m gonna do! Everyone ALWAYS has an opinion about the new incoming President! But Obama will still be OUR President come Jan. 20th!!
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Liz, do you go to the Church where Rev Wright used to pastor and Obama went?
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 11:04 am 11:04 am
The extreme hatred that the left has shown to Bush over the last eight years has built up a lot of hostility on the right to anyone perceived as being part of that. I feel sorry for Mr. Obama because he will be on the receiving end of their retribution. The left should have remained level headed in their opposition to Bush and left the personal attacks alone. It has really created an environment where every politician is going to be attacked.
Posted by: nikki | December 21, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
barefoot – NAFTA was signed by U.S. President George H.W. Bush, Mexican President Salinas, and Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney in 1992. It was ratified by Clinton. The impetus for NAFTA actually began with President Ronald Regan, who campaigned on a North American common market. In 1984, Congress passed the Trade and Tariff Act. This is important because it gave the President “fast-track” authority to negotiate free trade agreements, while while only allowing Congress the ability to approve or disapprove, not change negotiating points…….. Bottom line. NAFTA is plenty bi-partisan. Tho I have issues with it as well.
Posted by: Susan-1 | December 21, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
nikki – Did you sleep thru the Clinton years? That was when we all witnessed extreme hatred off the right.
Posted by: Susan-1 | December 21, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
It is amazing that so many of those who left comments have absolutely no regard for facts or information. They seem to worship at the shrines of Hannity and Limbaugh whose political beliefs are whatever will get them larger audiences to justify their bloated salaries. About 5 million Americans tune in to those two creeps and parrot everything they say because they have no thoughts of their own based upon monumental ignorance.
Posted by: sy levy | December 21, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
I might go to Rev. Wright’s church next week.
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
I’ll give Obama the benefit of the doubt but I will not give Emanuel the benefit of the doubt. A “courtesy call” was actually five calls, one to the Governor and four to his right hand hack. The term appreciation is obviously being used as a code phrase, based on prior dealings. When asked if all he got was appreciation, it sounds like this is a comfortable conversation where in the past where other forms of consideration (example: campaign donationas) have been in play, but this time it’s “appreciation”.
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | December 21, 2008, 11:08 am 11:08 am
I’m not surprised by this post George, usual Democrat spin. Let’s just trivialize Emanuel’s conversation with Blagojevich, it was nothing right? If Blagojevich was putting the arm on Obama for something in return for a senatorial appointment, why didn’t Obama report that to the FBI?
Posted by: Tom | December 21, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
I don’t think Obama will be a good President. Fact is I don’t think he will even last four years. With all the controversies dogging him, Obama will probably be impeached after six months in office.
Merry Christmas.
Posted by: John Fish | December 21, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
This is hillarious! I can just imagine the Obama team having a good laugh over the press coverage the last couple of weeks that printed one incorrect story after another. Beleive me the Obama team is very smart and they would not issue a statement like this that could be disproven by wire taps. Come on Chicago papers – what happened to your stories about Emanual being on tape 21 tims? Blah Blah Blah. The Chicago papers are so anxious to get the SCOOP on the Blago story that they will print anyting they are told by anybody. They keep quoting Blago aides and ex-aides. Like these crooks are creidible sources for information. When a newspaper doesn’t name where they got the information, and just says sources who knew of these conversations, you can bet it is all bull. Anybody with credible evidence will allow their name to be use.
Posted by: Kate1149 | December 21, 2008, 11:10 am 11:10 am
I hope that the sheer ignorance and stupidity demonstrated by critics of Obama on this page is the effect of living with 8 years of Bush/Cheney and will abate after a few years of experiencing a government led by an intelligent and thoughtful president. You can always find reasoned and itelligent criticisms of any administration. You’ll be much more effective if you educate yourself and use the god given faculty of reason. Please try.
Posted by: Maria | December 21, 2008, 11:11 am 11:11 am
susan-1 said “I would love an example of what you speak of here. Seriously, name one thing that you heard out of his mouth that encouraged anything negative on Bush or Palin. Palin – the woman that was in herself a rabid attack dog on Obama. While he said nothing back I might add.”
Mr. Obama’s campaign manager, David Axelrod, was a business partner with Charles Winner. Charles Winner is the person who published the y*uTub* video that attacked Governor Palin for among other things, not actually giving birth to her own son. This is adirect tie to Mr. Obama pushing the most vile and disgusting political attacks on the opposition. Do you really support going after people in this way?
The fact that Mr. Obama can rely on the press to do much of his dirty work does not free him from the responsibility of directing those attacks through his minion.
Posted by: nikki | December 21, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
The extreme hatred that the left has shown to Bush over the last eight years has built up a lot of hostility on the right to anyone perceived as being part of that. I feel sorry for Mr. Obama because he will be on the receiving end of their retribution. The left should have remained level headed in their opposition to Bush and left the personal attacks alone. It has really created an environment where every politician is going to be attacked.
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nikki, you are right with this statement. The left shouldn’t get mad with the criticizm of Obama as much as they criticized Bush. After eight years of bashing Bush, the lefties have it coming.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
Oh yes, let’s let Osama Obama make his own “MESS”. He still hasn’t shown proof that he is a “natural born” citizen….
Posted by: CAgrl19 | December 21, 2008, 11:12 am 11:12 am
In reference to those who can find nothing to complain about besides Obama, I know that nothing will dissuade you from your life’s work. For those who tell these people to be quiet– save your breath. Obama can take whatever they dish out. He is not BUSH II. Letting people waste their time–is not the least bit counter-productive–for us at least.
Posted by: jrc903 | December 21, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Jeff Fish said: Obama had a very cozy relationship with Rod Blagojevich. Let’s wait and see what more turns up. Anything can happen. I agree with MadeinUSA that his has the potential to become Watergate II.
>that’s just a blatant lie and wishful thinking. you don’t even LIVE in illinois or chicago- blagojevich and obama were RIVALS, not friends. in fact, they really couldn’t stand each other. you can post whatever you want, but that doesn’t make it the truth. ‘close’? you’re spreading lies, period. that’s all.
Posted by: Rocky | December 21, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
barefoot let’s go over this again. Besides a few convinced “Bush stole 2000?” I heard nobody demonizing Bush prior to seeing what he was going to do on the job. This after 8 years of rabid republicans looking for anything and everything to stick Clinton with (granted he was an idiot to toy with Monica knowing this). This guy hasn’t taken oath and you guys sound like nothing more than total sore losers at this point. Try waiting till he really does something you can fuss on. So far in this? You have nothing. I guarantee you these seats are “discussed” every time this comes up. This is more about did somebody try to gain financially personally over the seat. Not if favors wouldn’t be traded, etc. That’s just normal politics.
Posted by: Susan-1 | December 21, 2008, 11:15 am 11:15 am
All the controversy is surrounding Obama becuz he’s black and you have a bunch of white CEO’s, etc. (a bunch of crooks and liars) milking this country. GREED!! You can’t accept that it might take a black man to get this country back on the right track. I don’t care if he’s Indian; if he can attempt to get us on the right track, and actually do it, my hat’s off to him!! Well, I gotta go to church. Bye.
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
The nasty Republicans on this web site need to get over it. You lost – the American people voted out your corrupt, incompetent, bungling Administration – The Administration who lied to get us into a war and let the banking industry and wall street rob us blind. I can’t wait for January 20th. The American people voted against your hatred of everything postive and love for mud slinging and hatred. The American people voted out the Republicans – now go and stay gone.
Posted by: Kate1149 | December 21, 2008, 11:21 am 11:21 am
liz said, “You can’t accept that it might take a black man to get this country back on the right track.”
Finally, an Obama supporter is on the edge of admitting what we have known for quite some time – Mr. Obama is the first “affirmative action” president. We deserve better than a president who is chosen because of the color of his skin, or gender, or what school they attended. We need leaders that will bring reform and new ideas, not a president that got “special consideration” because of some physical trait.
Posted by: Jasmin | December 21, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
Nikki, it’s Susan. They’re trying to filter me for spamming? Um, now? ALL races have rooms full of people hunting past history and then they’ll get it put out there again looking like some average citizen did it. I can assure you that McCain/Palin had the same thing playing out. It slays me that you guys lost this last one on too much negativity – yet you still cry about how negative that other side was? The public voted on that one already.
Posted by: NotaSpammer | December 21, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
All the controversy is surrounding Obama becuz he’s black and you have a bunch of white CEO’s, etc. (a bunch of crooks and liars) milking this country. GREED!! You can’t accept that it might take a black man to get this country back on the right track. I don’t care if he’s Indian; if he can attempt to get us on the right track, and actually do it, my hat’s off to him!! Well, I gotta go to church. Bye.
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You are suppose to be in Church. You said earlier that you were going. Now go and ask forgiveness for saying what you just did.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 11:24 am 11:24 am
O-N-L-Y FIVE calls to Blago & Harris? Another dishonest administration…
Posted by: Mac | December 21, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
LMAO ha ha ha ..if Obama said it, ABC says its got to be true lmao At in the tank ABC.. the coverup begins lmao
Posted by: ABC-n-the tank for Obama | December 21, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
barefoot let’s go over this again. Besides a few convinced “Bush stole 2000?” I heard nobody demonizing Bush prior to seeing what he was going to do on the job. This after 8 years of rabid republicans looking for anything and everything to stick Clinton with (granted he was an idiot to toy with Monica knowing this). This guy hasn’t taken oath and you guys sound like nothing more than total sore losers at this point. Try waiting till he really does something you can fuss on. So far in this? You have nothing. I guarantee you these seats are “discussed” every time this comes up. This is more about did somebody try to gain financially personally over the seat. Not if favors wouldn’t be traded, etc. That’s just normal politics.
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Bush did not steal the 2000 election. The democrats tried to do but we had a good honest person see to it that it was not stolen. The democrats tried to turn in around but failed. They know they were wrong.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Hillary would make a better President. Obama is a big failure before he even started. This country is headed for a big mess under Obama.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
LOL..all these comments make me laugh! When will you folks learn that this isn’t about Obama, Emmanuel, Blagojevich, or anyone else. It’s about the MEDIA stirring up stuff for profits. I don’t mean the “liberal biased” media (which doesn’t exist except in people’s minids) but the PROFIT driven media (which makes money by stirring up ratings).
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6 months from now, this story won’t amount to a hill of beans except when Blagojevich is removed from office. But in those 6 months, you can be sure that there will be all sorts of stories that start with “rumors” or “allegations” that then morph into “supposedly” and “there was contact once..” etc. Wise up folks! You can spew you venom on Obama, Bush, whoever you want. But you are simply an unwitting accomplice of an industry that is all about making money by getting you to foam at the mouth.
Posted by: FranklyMyDear | December 21, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
George, get your head out of Obama’s @ss. You’re not credible anymore.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Obama and Blago were Rezko’s (illinois mob) puppets……………they may not of have fond of each other but they certainly worked together in their criminal endeavors. BTW, Blago’s wife was involved in the Obama mansion/Rezko scandal.
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Jasmin, don’t twist it; that’s childish. Bush didn’t reform squat; he led us into despair!!
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Jeff, I agree. Hillary would have been a much better choice. She is more intelligent and she has been fully vetted. Obama has not been. Hillary is not tied to the corrupt politics of Chicago either.
Posted by: Jasmin | December 21, 2008, 11:31 am 11:31 am
I wonder exactly what “APPRECIATION” means in Illinois corrupt politician lingo?
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
barefoot – Yeah, Kathleen the crazy lady is well thought of as a good and honest person in FL. That’s why she got reelected. Oh, that’s right – she didn’t. The woman is nuts. I said “a few thought that.” It’s like you’re stuck in some time warp. Sorry bout your luck that Obama got it. That must be hard for you.
Posted by: NotaSpammer | December 21, 2008, 11:32 am 11:32 am
We’re already in a big mess!!
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Jasmin, don’t twist it; that’s childish. Bush didn’t reform squat; he led us into despair!!
Posted by: liz | Dec 21, 2008 11:31:26 AM
Get to church girl. I didn’t know atheists went to church BTW.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Unfortunately, Hillary wasn’t chosen; Tune in Jan. 20th if you didn’t get it!
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
I love the way you guys mislead with the headline. Four calls to the chief of staff are buried in paragraph four. In a paper, that would be on page 5 or below the fold. A deliberate attempt to soft pedal this story. I find it interesting that Emanuel has been distanced from Obama and the report release is scheduled for Christmas eve so no one is paying attention. This is Blowdryovich’s mess, and they probably asked Obama for something. The real question is, why didn’t the Obama team turn in the Governor for bribery attempts??
Posted by: Dave | December 21, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Yeah, gotta go to church. Rev. Wright’s calling!
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
All or our politicians are a problem—the system is BROKEN. The two parties ensure we get the choice of one crook or of even a bigger crook. This occured because our voting, immigration, and education system has been eroded over the years as these two parties entrenched themselves.
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
All or our politicians are a problem—the system is BROKEN. The two parties ensure we get the choice of one crook or of even a bigger crook. This occured because our voting, immigration, and education system has been eroded over the years as these two parties entrenched themselves.
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
One phone call – Small Potatoes Compared to
No Complaints from : The Republican Party on the Actions and Behavior of :
President George Bush – who :
Fabricated Reports – Intentionally Delivered to the American people
In order to- Falsely and Fraudulently – Advocate a War !
Iraq war Cost has been $122 billion Dollars for every year or
10.16 Billion Dollars a Month
The cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could total $2.4 trillion or
nearly $8,000 per man, woman and child in the country,
Congressional Budget Office estimate (10/25/2007
No Funding for Homeless Shelters
No Funding for Food Banks
President George Bush has granted visa-free travel to the citizens of seven countries,
Several terrorists — including shoe-bomber Richard Reid and 9/11 conspirator
Zacarias Moussaoui — boarded planes to the USA with passports from
visa-waiver countries. Visa-free travel is Directly Responsible for : 9/11
European Union officials broke an official 40-year-long
silence on the previously-taboo subject of the CIA’s worldwide
involvement in drug trafficking.( September 10, 2008)
Iraq – Afghanistan Forced Extended Enlistments – Forced Extended Tours
A Conscripted US Military
Year 2000, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld – Was involved in selling a
Nuclear Plant to : North Korea – Along with the technology to refine :
Uranium and produce Plutonium
Prescott Bush connections to an American firm, Asset Management,
Only U.S. firm able to Skirt U.S. sanctions and import (smuggle)
Communications (Spy ??) Satellites into China
Cheney, Gonzales indicted in South Texas county
Prisoner Abuse – Prison Corruption (Nov 18, 2008)
Politicized : The Federal Civil Service System with Appointments
Bagram: The other Gitmo,currently houses about 630 prisoners
Granting Immunity to : Blackwater (Murder)
Granting Immunity to : Kellogg, Brown & Root (Kidnapping and Rape)
The Federal Drug Smuggling – Drug Manufacturing and Money Laundering Operations
Ordered Criminal Wiretaps – Criminal Surveillance Techniques
Imported Poisoned Food and Lead Tainted Toys
The New Caspin Sea and Asian Oil Pipelines
Awarded all the Katrina Contracts to his : Former Campaign Manager
The Complete and Total – Disregard and the Destruction of the Constitution
Allowing Millions of People into Home Foreclosure From Intentional Bank Fraud
The FBI who Hires People who have been drug abusers
NO BID Contracts to : Halliburton
NO BID Contracts to : Kellogg, Brown & Root
Attorney General who Fires State Attorneys in lieu of Political Nepotism
The Degradation and Deterioration of Combat Veterans Health Care
Ordering and Approved of Torture and Murder of people within Detention Centers
No Direct Connection between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda
The Continuing Suicide Rate of : Vietnam Combat Veterans
The Suicide Rate of : Iraqi Combat Veterans
The Suicide Rate of : Afghanistan Combat Veterans
Bail Out – for Criminal Bankers and Criminal Lenders
OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS for : Slave Labor and Child Forced Labor
Purposely and Intentionally Destroyed – The Economic Infrastructure of The U.S.
This is : The PATRIOTIC Gift of The Republican Party
To The AMERICAN PEOPLE
Posted by: Gipsy61 | December 21, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
We all know that the majority are behind Obama. Those who do not want, that is also fine.
It could be a miracle if every single person could count themselves on the supporting side!
Posted by: Rita | December 21, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am
barefoot – Yeah, Kathleen the crazy lady is well thought of as a good and honest person in FL. That’s why she got reelected. Oh, that’s right – she didn’t. The woman is nuts. I said “a few thought that.” It’s like you’re stuck in some time warp. Sorry bout your luck that Obama got it. That must be hard for you.
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You people think you know more than the people that lived down here. I’m from Florida and close to the supervisor of elections in the county that was in question. Kathleen Harris was what kept it straight. There were other reasons that she was not elected Senator. She run against Bill Nelson and he is hard for anyone to beat. Now go back to your hole and get out of Florida’s business if you don’t know what you are talking about.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Don’t hate President Obama. I know it hurts. I was hurting for the last 8 years!! I’ll be smiling a bigger smile on Jan. 20th!!
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 11:38 am 11:38 am
Obama is snagged negotiating the sell of political offices and the Obamabots counter with an attack on Bush?
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
You RNP Theorist are Desperate as He!!
Obama’s your President and he will be Sworn in January 20th
Obama has Not been in Contact with Blagoavich in over a YEAR !!
Obama is much Wiser than what some of you RNP Theorist can Imagine or allow yourselves to Imagine…
Blagovich and his Cronies Calling and trying to DEMAND PAYMENT is a Testamony to how Stupid, Naieve, Outrageous and Outlandish they are…
Did I mention STUPID
The Blagoavich Team can call 1 Thousand Times, because it means NOTHING..
Blagoavich is Stupid and shows how INSANE he really is.
Keep up the Theories on the Obama- Connection as you have with trying to make Obama’s US Citizenship Invalid, when it is in fact Valid…
That is unless Hawaii was not a part of the United when Obama was Born !!
You Hatefilled, Hateful Undecover racist never Cease to Amaze me…
Your New President is Not the Corporate Color, Get use to it & Live with it.
R. Nixon, R. Gerald Ford, D. Jimmy Carter, R. Ronald Reagan 8 Years, R. George H.W.Bush Sr. D.Bill Clinton 8 Years and George W. Bush Jr. 8 Years…
Say, what you know..
The Republican Party has been in Control Longer than the Democrats !!
They are all the Corprate Color, and they are all to Blame and Obama has Inherited their MESS.
The Republicans, Democrats, Moderates, Independents and Libertarians had better Place the [American Public and the American Economy 1st] or end up like the Belgian Country, Whose Economy, has went Bottom Up !!!!
Obama is showing More Wisdom than Presidents Past…
You better Hope and Pray, as well as Work with the President and his Administration, to get this Economy Back On Track.
To HE!! with Blagoavich…
That Generic Looking, Cheap Version Of John Travolta in State Politics…
He looks like John Travolta’s long lost Brother or Worse, Elvis’s Lost Love Child !!!!
Good Day and Good Luck !!!
Posted by: O. | December 21, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Don’t hate President Obama. I know it hurts. I was hurting for the last 8 years!! I’ll be smiling a bigger smile on Jan. 20th!!
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It want last long Liz. The poor are going to be hurting just as bad or worse under Obammer.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
barefoot – It’s kind of gross how you are hoping people hurt under him. Real patriotic. But wait. You like Kathleen the crazy lady, AND you thought Clinton was NAFTA.
Posted by: NotaSpammer | December 21, 2008, 11:44 am 11:44 am
I am incredibly curious to know what the conversation was in regard to Rahm’s Congressional seat. The law states that within 120 days after a congressman gives up his/her seat there will be a special election. There really is no discussion that seems plausible for that seat between the two.
Posted by: Scott | December 21, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Even a passing internet search comes up with compelling evidence that Blago hates and envies Obama. Blago saw BO as usurping what was rightly his. He had plans to run for pres a number of years ago and even mentioned himself as a potential VP for Kerry.
He also despises Emmanuel because he believes that Rahm did not have to pay his dues and rose to quickly.
A little deductive reasoning shows that Blago is still trying to slime BO and Emmanuel. The “leak” to the Sun Times that 21 calls had been made was leaked to Michael Snead. She is the go to mouthpiece for Blago when he wants to leak. IN the charging document, Blago and his chief discuss false leaks to “a certain columnist” as a way to put pressure on Obama to give him something in return for Jarrett.
BO didn’t play and subsequently became “M-f—er” in Blagoland.
Posted by: Patpp67 | December 21, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Stephen: Obama didn’t have the experience to clean up the mess that Bush made that’s why he picks the people from Clinton’s administration. They are 100 times more experience and know what Obama hasn’t learned yet. He will be the president in name only the administration will be running the country. He is no Bill Clinton who knew how to run the country and made decisions of his own. There is more to the story on Emanuel because he and the governor were friends while he was a senator. Who is kidding who. There is more corruption among the democrat party than the republicans. Get a grip and face the truth.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | December 21, 2008, 11:47 am 11:47 am
Seriously, where has the press been with regards to any of the stuff in Obama’s background? Rezko – nothing, birth certificate – nothing, Larry Sinclair – nothing, not releasing medical records – nothing, ties to wacked out preachers – nothing, indictment of Bill Richardson – nothing, Obama supporters digging through the records of private citizens who ask inconvenient questiosn – nothing, removing validation of campaign contributions from the Obama web site in violation of the Hatch act – nothing, Democrats opposing regulation on the GSE’s and derivitives of the motgage industry – nothing, Charlie Rangel’s ethics issues – nothing, William Jefferson’s ethics issues – nothing, and on and on and on and on….
America needs a press that will go after both parties not just the Republicans. This story is a perfect example of the press trying to minimize damage for their precious buds in the Democratic party. We as a society are sunk if w cannot rely on the press to be unbiased.
Posted by: Mick | December 21, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
barefootboy, Obviously, you don’t get it either!! There’s no sin in being poor. You don’t miss what you’ve never had. I don’t have a lot but I sure don’t mind helping other people if they need it!! My finances have not changed. I still have the same home of 20 years!! Opps, gotta go for real, my church is calling!!
And, why would you want ANYONE to hurt!! If you go to church, it will take away some of that evilness you are feeling.
Posted by: liz | December 21, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Y’all are all dopes for thinking that it is a crime for Rahm to make any kind of contact with the sleazeball of a gov! It would have been kind of criminal for them NOT TO make contact, and totally suspicious!! It would mean that they know they were being “squeezed” and knowing that it is a criminal act and did not act on it. So it was really acceptable that they have had discussions to discuss potential candidates, even push forward names, as long as nothing monetary was promised in exchange.
Posted by: Karen | December 21, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
Patpp67, you have no idea who Rahm is do you? He is a Daley person. He paid his dues and Blago knew that. Obama helped Blago win two elections. They might not have liked each other, but they did play the game together. They helped bankrupt this state while Obama was a State Senator (along with 49 others). And this continues today.
Posted by: scott | December 21, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Funny, that OBAMA’S INTERNAL INVESTIGATION didn’t turn up anything! Did we expect anything else? What a crock! The MESSIAH has spoken, and don’t contradict his WORD! OBAMA’S INTERNAL INVESTIGATION WAS TO COVER-UP EVERYTHING! Obama is the second coming, OF HITLER! OBAMA IS A SCAM READY TO HAPPEN!
Posted by: Thateldoo | December 21, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
O. And you don’t know what your talking about. The citizenship records of Obama have been sealed and locked up. Why? Because he is a citizen of Kenya and that’s where he was born. He was with his father in Kenya as a small child. His father then abandoned him. His mother took him to Hawaii to be registered there be that doesn’t make him a citizen of Hawaii. He also was raised by his Indonesian father who may have made him a citizen there. The government is afraid to tell the public the truth because of riots among the blacks which I wouldn’t care if they burned their house down.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | December 21, 2008, 11:53 am 11:53 am
What a bunch of drama queens some of you are. Good grief. What? Are your lives SO empty that you have to fill them with self-created “watergate”-style drama just to give yourself something to live for until the next day? You’re pathetic. Obama hasn’t done anything to indicate he wants anything other than to turn this country around. He appoints the kind of cabinet even Republicans are pleased with, has put together exactly the kind of team he said he would during his campaign, and he’s even raised the ire of some of his own party in doing it. I think this shows that he’s a man of his word and he’s putting the benefit of the country above idealism or party. This should be applauded and met by optimism whether you voted for him or not. Considering posts on here prior to the election speculating that he would appoint a bunch of extreme lefties, maybe it’s time some of you give the guy a chance and see what he can actually do rather than look for things that aren’t there.
Posted by: nancy miller | December 21, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
barefootboy, Obama is the only one who is President elect.
Posted by: Sandy | December 21, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
Jeff fish….this country is in a big mess and it is still under Bush. And NO..Hillary wound not have been a better president. Also Obama said there were no improper contacts with his staff and he said he had no contact. Some people here like to twist people’s words to make themselves feel good…good luck with that.
Posted by: larry | December 21, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
@Karen “Y’all are all dopes for thinking that it is a crime for Rahm to make any kind of contact with the sleazeball of a gov!”
Wrong, as soon as Rahm Emanuel knew the governor was asking for something in return for naming the senate replacement he was obligated to tell investigators. If he did not do this (so far it seems he did not) then he has broken the law. He should either resign his position or Obama should throw him out. If obama discussed the offers made to Rahm Emanuel, even if he rejected the extortion attempt, then he too has broken the law.
Posted by: James | December 21, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
Nancy Miller,
First of all I live in Chicago my representative is Rahm, I am for good reason captivated by this. Some of Obama’s picks are horrible, Arne Duncan being the one that comes to mind first. I do not think Obama would offer anything to Blago. With that said I think that “friends” of Obama would, even if they did not have the ability to give Blago what he wanted.
Posted by: Scott | December 21, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
When can we impeach Obama – on his first day in office or in his first full day in office?
Posted by: politicoli | December 21, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
A sign of things to come. Maybe nothing happened this time, but the story is full of holes and whole truth is not yet known.
Obama promised more than he can deliver, is trying to backtrack on his campaign platitudes, and his Chicago-style thug politics are already coming to light. I don’t hope for failure but I expect it (along with the liberal media cover-up).
Posted by: RD1 | December 21, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
So, the FBI wiretap has Emanuel talking to Blago some 21 times, but ABC takes the word of the Obama folks over the FBI and stick with the 1 courtesy call story?
LOL!!!!!!
THIS IS TOO RIPE!
Election 2008, the year the unbiased media died!
Posted by: Darryl | December 21, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
I love these plant stories that Blago and Obama hated each other and wouldn’t work together that just completely ignore the endorsements that each gave the other for their bids for political power. I think this type of technique is called redirect. It’s obvious Blago and Obama ran in the same corrupt circles and did work together when it suited their own personal power grabs.
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
thateldoo: And your right about that. The government is covering up the fact that he is not a citizen of this country because of riots. However, Obama will trip himself up sooner or later. It is just a matter of time before the truth comes out. His birth certificate is in Kenya where he lived with his father as a young child. He then abandoned Obama and Obama’s mother divorced his father, went to Hawaii and married again. After that divorce, she married a man from Indonesia and it has been stated Obama might also be a citizen of Indonesia. If he is a citizen of the US where are his papers, original birth certificate, not the fake one shown on the television. Why doesn’t the government take steps to have his records released. What are they afraid of. I don’t care if the blacks riot, they have been trouble for years and who cares what they think.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | December 21, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
I don’t understand why this is all happening? Why is their still bad stuff happening? This is not the change we were promised? Please Oh Great Save Us!!!
Posted by: MKBJ | December 21, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Why are American’s even bothering to pay any attention whatsoever to a report investigated, prepared and released by BARACK’S PEOPLE?! Do they consider us to be total & complete moron’s? Lets actually wait to read the REAL FBI report and listen to the ACTUAL WIRETAPS before jumping to a conclusive “bottom line” George!
Posted by: PhillyPaul | December 21, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Obama stated HE didn’t have any contact with Blago re: Senate seat replacement. And, his transition team didn’t have anything to do with the pay-off scheme. All the evidence released shows just that. It was quite typical for Rahm to speak about seat replacement, and thankfully was clear that only appreciation was reciprocated. Blago is scum. Obama and his team don’t stoop that low.
Posted by: Get Real Already | December 21, 2008, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Watergate II? This country is going down the toilet and you guys are blowing something worthless totally out of proportion. Why are those who want Obama to fail? Makes no sense. If he fails that would probably mean it will be a another failure (Bush was just a major one) for our entire country.
Posted by: todd | December 21, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
“Obama’s team has reviewed?” Why even print it then? You know it’s a lie. Why do we accept Obama’s self policing? Isn’t that what happens in counties under a dictatorship? Is that where we are headed?
Just look at the fact of the ACORN scandal couple them with the birth certificate scandal and this Blago Scandal and you can see the “Obama Administration” is already riddled with illegal, shameful acts.
Posted by: Susan | December 21, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
This episode will seem like child’s play in just a year or so, when Barrack Hussein Obama and his fellow thugs are in control. Why did the great tough guy Fitzgerald jump the gun and not catch Blago in the act? Why did Obama LIE when he said he had no contact with Blago regarding the senate seat? In a year or two we all will be sick of the mess Obama is destined to produce. He is probably the DUMBEST person ever to run for president ever, yet alone actually get elected.
Posted by: Dan L | December 21, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
To Sandy: It does not matter that Bush is President, The “Messiah” by the power of his being was supposed to change this sinking ship overnight! Obama is failing us people wake up!Obama is going to go down as the worst “President Elect” in history.
Posted by: MKBJ | December 21, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
“Appreciation” must have an interesting defination in corrupt Chi-town mob political lingo. Obama didn’t want to pay the price of a cabinet seat to Blago, but “appreciation” could encompass a number of things to repay Blago. 5 or 21 calls between the two camps mixed in with Obama and his already lying about what was going on proves that Obama and Blago were in NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE SALE OF THE SEAT.
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
politicoli: I would love that to happen. Obama got the nomination because Pelosi screamed at the superdelegates to switch their vote to Obama because she wanted to be the woman in charge. Dean took delegates away from Hillary in MI and FL giving some to Obama which he didn’t deserve. The election of Obama was a farce and its this generation of idiot’s that voted him in office. The majority being the drug and dinking students who don’t have the brains to sit on or a window to throw them out of. And there will be more trouble for the democrats. This is just the beginning. I am sure the republican’s are laughing up their sleeve. I didn’t vote for Obama and I am waiting for the downfall.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | December 21, 2008, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
If 1/20/09 comes and goes with a usurper in the Whitehouse (that is, Obama is definitely NOT an Article II “natural born citizen” — dad Kenyan/British citizen at BHO’s birth –albeit he MAY BE a 14th Amendment “citizen”) with usurper enablers in Congress and the Supreme Court … God help us because many of the people will — rightfully and under our Constitution and Declaration of Independence — endeavor through other means to take back the Government from what is nothing less than a non-constitutional coup d’etat.
SCOTUS now does have the power to forestall that grim yet inevitable scenario, otherwise the blood and possible loss of our Constitutional Republic is SQUARELY ON THEIR HEADS.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Obama does nothing but lie and run scams…………..and yet there are peopel that still believe him?
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Jan. When in the last 8 years have the likes of you ever really cared about the facts? Please give me a break.
Posted by: Archy | December 21, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Scott,
Duly noted. You don’t like all of his picks. I personally don’t love them all either, particulary not that excited about Hillary as SoS. Having said that, I can still see the diversity he is putting in his team and that he appears to be approaching his picks in a “partison-blind” fashion. He clearly has a group of people who have differing views and ideologies, and this is something we haven’t seen in a very long time. I may not applaud every single pick, but I can look at the group as a whole and see alot I like. As for “friends” of Obama and Blago, I’m sure you’re right. Politics is politics, but Blago took it one giant notch too far over the line. It must be fascinating living where you do. I live in NC where life is not nearly as exciting most of the time.
Posted by: nancy miller | December 21, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Can you imagine how different the coverage of this scandal would be if Obama were a Republican? Do you think we would see stories like this that are designed to downplay the scandal?
Why is the press so spineless when it comes to taking on Democrats?
Posted by: Ziggy | December 21, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
you people who rant and rave about surplus and job loss need to need a history and economics lesson. first off, you go on about clintons surplus, big deal. the goverment still had trillions in debt, mind you they dont keep a checks and balance like the “average joe” has to. and second , job loss started in the clinton era because bubba was a protagonist for globalization, example: NAFTA and giving china most favored trade status for campaign donations. i, unlike most americans do not have a short memory, so if i was obama, i would just let it slide because you will forget , particularly if you a liberal,four years from now.
Posted by: kevin | December 21, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Posted by: barefootboy: “The poor are going to be Hurting just as Bad or Worse Under Obammer”
———————
You are Truly a Barefoot and Brainless…BOY !!
Your NASCAR LOVING Good Ole Boy…
President George W. Bush Jr. is Awarded that Distinction.
Keep Hate Alive….
Obama is Your President, Live with it and Accept it..
You can’t Change it and all you can do, is remain…
Barefoot and Brainless as you are.
Stay in the Deep South, The Ozarks or the Upper or Lower Appalachian Mountains…
Or the Mid Western or Rural Red Southern Dirt Poor Trailer Park, you currently reside..
Because You and Your Kind, are Relics.
PS: The Poor have been Living and Surviving, throughout this Madness and will Live and Survive this Madness !!
If they Survived 8 Years of Bush Jr. and Survived their Love Ones being sent to Iraq to be be Permamently Injured and Killed, Over 4,000 to be Exact, as well as Surviving the Housing Crisis…
As well as this Summer’s Over 4.75 per Gallon of Gas, they can and will Survive President Obama and his Administration.
It is the Middle Classes, who may Suffer and Fall…
Dumb Dumb
Put some Shoes on, Educate Yourself, Read, Research, gather your Facts and get your Head out of Your … A!!
Obama is Your President and You and those like You, should Appreciate Him..
But Genetically speaking, Your Kind are not capable of Appreciating what you have in Obama, you would Prefer anyone, as long as they are the “Corporate Color”
No matter how Uneducated
McCain and Palin are a Testament to Your way of Thinking..
The “As long as they are White Rule” has been Dismatled !!
Thank God it was a Failure,this past Novemeber !!
Barefoot…
Put some Shoes on and Educate, as well as Deprogram Yourself..
Posted by: O. | December 21, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
The Obama supporters need to stop with the self-righteous “we need to work together to rebuild this country” line of bull. If the tables were turned you would be in frenzy and Michael Moore would already have a movie and a book out. Enough with the hypocrisy! The Bush Administration has put up with this crap for eight years and now Obama and his Chicago thugs are fair game. Also, if Obama knew nothing about contacts with Blago, then he is clearly in a “bubble” and not in touch with the world around him. Is this now OK? I recall this being a line of attack on President Bush… “out of touch,” or “in a bubble.” I guess this does not apply to Obamessiah. HYPOCRITES!
Posted by: Harry Caray Holy Cow! | December 21, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Amen Dan…….I thought too that the Feds normally would have waited for the deal to be complete, but that they jumped in early to avoid Obama’s choice being put in. And I agree, Obama is even dumber than Carter…
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Obama has a milloion questions to answer about his real estate dealings, his wife’s no-show job at the hospital, his associates.
His career stinks of cronyism, nepotism and self-dealing. Besides promote Obama, the man has not done much.
The American people deserve the truth!
Posted by: Phil | December 21, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
The worst is yet to come when the great lord Obama takes the oath of office and lies while he is doing it. He has already lied many times to the American people and he will keep doing it because the press won’t expose his lies.
Posted by: dan | December 21, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
This is just the start of ANOTHER REPUBLICAN WITCH HUNT like Ken Starr, Whitewater etc. WILL OUR PRESS BE STUPID ENOUGH TO FALL FOR THIS THROUGHOUT OBAMA’S ADMINISTRATION?
Posted by: Diane Witt | December 21, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
All suffer under socialism/marxism except the few that hold the power. Obama is a marxist and will run this country like any other marxist country with lip service, fascism, and a dying economy. The middle class suffers the most as they join the poor class. Obama/Pelosi/Reid probably have the combined iq of a snail.
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Just one phone call between these 2 is impossible to believe. But then again so was BHO’s garbage about Ayers, Rezko and Wright.
And what qualifications for a US Senate seat does Valerie Jarret possess? Answer: NONE. As unqualified as Caroline Kennedy.
Posted by: MBNA Joe | December 21, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
For all of the Barry bots out there who trash Bush, I have a question. Since you seem to buy into Obama own investigation of his actions are you also willing to allow Bush to investigate himself? Can Bush jus declare, hey, I have investigated everything I have ever done and I did nothing wrong. I seriously fear for our country when we see this kind of blind allegiance to a candidate both from their supporters and their supporters (at least 90%) in the press.
Posted by: Ziggy | December 21, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
To Sandy: It does not matter that Bush is President, The “Messiah” by the power of his being was supposed to change this sinking ship overnight! Obama is failing us people wake up!Obama is going to go down as the worst “President Elect” in history.
Posted by: MKBJ
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Just how exactly can Obama already be failing us when he hasn’t even taken office yet? YOU, “my friend”, are as clueless as the rock sitting in the dirt outside my front door. All you haters are just pathetic and I almost feel sorry for you. You would rather spend the next 8 yrs pissed off and mad, than go in with an open mind hoping for the best. What an absolutely miserable way to live….
Posted by: Debbie Reid | December 21, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Nancy Miller,
Actually if you have lived in Chicago as long as I have 15 years (not native Chicagoan) you realize that what Blago did is business as usual here. The people here do not care. They vote for a D regardless of whom that person is. They only have a problem when things do not work like they should. We know it is corrupt, the city and the state. We do not care as long as life is still good. Blago made the mistake, along with the General Assembly to get us into a $3-4 billion deficit. The dumbest thing he did, with the approval of the General Assembly (Obama included) was bypass the FDA and purchase flu vaccine from France when the vaccine shortages occurred. However our leaders could not use it since he bypassed the FDA and therefor could not disperse it.
Comparatively Mayor Daley is far more corrupt than Blago.
Out here many of us are wondering why Fitzgerald jumped the gun on this so quickly. If Blago would have succeeded Fitzgerald could have nailed a governor and a Senator quite quickly. Now we are left with evidence of a crime that never happened. God forbid, what if Blago is acquitted since he had not sold anything …yet?
Obama is a Chicago Democrat and know that if you have a corrupt government, the people will only care if their lives do not improve. We will have a corrupt government over the next 4-8 years, more so than under Bush. You think the Haliburton contract was bad, just wait. However for our sake, I truly hope things work well for our citizens.
Posted by: Scott | December 21, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Don’t you just love it when they say… “Sources also confirm” and “Sources tell me”…
Another words, ABC is lying again to protect the Democratic party…
Posted by: Patrick | December 21, 2008, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
Diane Witt,
Step back from the kool aid!
Try learning something instead. Fitzgerald was picked by congressional Democrats to GET Cheney! Fitzgerals has now ensnared Blago and he’as getting perelously close to The Messiah! If you want to blane someone for Fitzgerald, blame congressional Democrats!
Posted by: Darryl | December 21, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
BTW, I hope Obama won’t be “smoking” any of these funny little things in White House….the drug dogs might get upset.
http://www.celebitchy.com/27062/obama_smoking_funny-looking_cigarette_in_college_photo/
Posted by: chattyway | December 21, 2008, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
chattaway, I am offended!!!
when you say “Obama/Pelosi/Reid probably have the combined iq of a snail. “, you are surely besmearching the good name of our little snail friends. Good lord, Nancy Pelosi must be at negative 67 on the IQ scale and Harry Reid isn’t far behind. Obama I will put at an average rating of 100 simply because he did manage to buy that house without going to jail for accepting a political payoff from Rezko.
Posted by: Nikki | December 21, 2008, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
James,
The Supremes have turned away from taking that case. So with your way of thinking all our first presidents would have been illegal? Geoge Washington’s father was British..heck Geaoge Washington was not an American citizen..was not even born as a citizen. Either was Jefferson or Adams…etc. Having duel citizenship does not mean you are not a natural born citizen of this country. All children of American citizens even if they are living in another country are citizens of America…
Obama had duel citizenship from the time he was born to the age of three, when Kenya gained independance…and Kenya does not accept duel citizenship…he was strickly American at that time.
He was born in this country of an American citizen…that means he is a Natural Born citizen. That means that he does not have to go through anything to get his citizenship…he has it through birth.
So please James and all you others whining about Obama not being a citizen…you have a better case about John McCain…but the difference is that John is white…now isn’t that the big difference?
Posted by: terra | December 21, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Leave up to the water carrying Georgie to lie about Rahm’s role in the Blgo mess. Now that Bush is going and Obama makes the economy worse, who will you lefties blame then?
Posted by: Tim | December 21, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
“All you haters are just pathetic and I almost feel sorry for you. You would rather spend the next 8 yrs pissed off and mad, than go in with an open mind hoping for the best. What an absolutely miserable way to live….”
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What has the left been doing for the last eight years? Have they not been the epitome of hate and bitterness? Refusing, as you stated, to “go in with an open mind hoping for the best?” Give me a break hypocrite.
Posted by: Harry Caray Holy Cow! | December 21, 2008, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
another pathetic attempt by the media to explain obamas actions and clear the pathway for the coronation.
come on george, citing sources without names?
Posted by: stella | December 21, 2008, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Why don’t you far right fringe types just head up to Alaska and you can join Palin’s husband in turning it into it’s own country. I can’t believe I’m still reading birth certificate speak.
Posted by: NotaSpammer | December 21, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Unless the press has any additional information to the contrary, leave Obama alone on the issue of Blago. The Precidency is busy as it is already. Let’s focus on how to save this country from the Bush mess. There is no time for speculation…just report facts.
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It’s too bad our corrupt liberal press couldn’t do that for President Bush for the past eight years……..Instead they lied and mislead the American people about Bush……….no question about it. Especially this RUMOR that Bush lied and mislead the American people about going into Iraq. This has be thourghly investigated and NO PROOF has ever been brought forward……no secret Downing Street memo’s…….NOTHING….
Just eight years of “slander” by the most corrupt institution in America, our NAZI-like press……SAD
Posted by: allen ridge | December 21, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
1. Obama Handily Won The Presidency.
2. He Won 67 Million Votes
3. He Won The Electoral College…
[365] !!!
4. McCain-Palin Lost Handily
5. McCain-Palin did Not get 200 Electoral Votes, moreover 270 Electoral Votes !!
6. McCain was Beaten in 3 Key Southern States…
NC, Virginia and Florida
7. McCain Lost in Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Illinois and Throughout the Northeast.
8. McCain Lost New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada, his next Door Neighbors.
9. McCain Lost California, Washington & Oregon State.
10. The American People have Spoken and it was Decisive and Emphatic..
No matter what you Say, Do or Think…
No matter how Hateful or Dissenting or Disgusting, your statements…
Barack Hussein Obama, will be Your Next President of the United States Of America !!!!
I can’t wait to hear him Say…
“I Barack Hussein Obama” on January 20Th…
Just because it Pi$$es Hate Mongers like some of You …OFF !!!
Haha Haha Haha Haha !!!!
Posted by: O. | December 21, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Harry Caray Holy Cow,
It’s because of you and others like you that your party lost the election. I’m not a neophyte, I’m not naive, and I’m not a hypocrite. I didn’t vote for GW either election. I also didn’t wish him ill or pray he’d suck after he won. I wish alot of things had gone differently, but I still give him credit for what’s gone right. Maybe that’s because I’m an actual adult, I don’t know. Only someone mentally challenged or just plain stupid would hope for the new President, your choice or not, to fail. This country just gave your guys 8 yrs….how ’bout you give us at least 8 days before you start trying to rip us a new one. Or I have another idea….grow up!!
Posted by: Michelle Gomez | December 21, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
To …Sandy…..DO yourself a favor get a real man,put the vibrator down please.
Posted by: PAT IN PARIS | December 21, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
Obama is morally and ethically weak–just as all those he surrounds himself with and uses as step stones to ascend. Let’s all repeat, You are known by the company you keep. Duh.
Posted by: Hugh | December 21, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
This sounds like the president-elect’s chief of staff was politicizing the selection of senator Obama’s replacement, akin to the so-called “politically motivated” firings of U.S. attorneys by the Bush administration. Where’s the equivalent outrage on this matter?
Posted by: the_logician | December 21, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Zogby poll proves Obama voters are as dumb as a box of rocks.
Cange we can believe in = the dumbing down of America.
Posted by: Darryl | December 21, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Bush/Cheney and their administration ARE MORE CORRUPT than most people on the planet. WHY AREN’T WE FOCUSING ON THEIR CORRUPT DEALINGS THESE PAST 8 YEARS? THESE GUYS BELONG IN JAIL
Posted by: Jazzy Jaxxi | December 21, 2008, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
Jeff, where have you been for the last 8 years. Bush has taken care of making things a mess for us already. Do you think things can get much worse?
“Hillary would make a better President. Obama is a big failure before he even started. This country is headed for a big mess under Obama.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | Dec 21, 2008 11:28:05 AM”
Posted by: toddk | December 21, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
ABC News, please archive this thread so it can be easily found after the real story emerges.
Posted by: Mason | December 21, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Fred, “attacking” the current administration is “partisanship”? Please, Bush is considered to be a big time loser to the vast majority of people of all walks of life all over the entire world. Good grief. The only ones that support this clown are the die hard conservatives in this country.
“Alena,
Nice comment, you attack the current administration and then ask that we all leave the partisanship at home. That is not the way to end the politics of personal destruction. In fact, you have just given the green light to those who feel compelled to attack Obama. Why should Democrats get to attack Republicans and Republicans not have that same right to return the attack?
Mr. Obama has to understand that he will need to control his supporters if he has any chance to foster a “loyal opposition” instead of an opposition that is out for the same blood they have seen extracted from them.
Posted by: Fred | Dec 21, 2008 10:14:41 AM”
Posted by: toddk | December 21, 2008, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Dude, what scandals are you talking about? Have I missed something? I didn’t see the news report Obama has been involved in any “scandals”. Are you dreaming this stuff up out of your head?
“I have never seen a President before entering office to have so much scandal facing him and his people. I think we are in trouble in this country. We elected the wrong man. Should have elected someone else to run as a democrat. Hillary would have been better. John Edwards would have been a good choice if he could keep his zipper zipped up.
Posted by: barefootboy | Dec 21, 2008 10:31:38 AM”
Posted by: toddk | December 21, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
I was appalled at the callous disregard for the bruised feelings and passions of civil rights activists in Donna Brazile’s on air comments this morning that by the time Aretha Franklin sang at the inauguration, everyone will have forgotten all about Rick Warren.
My family and I worked terribly hard and sacrificed not readily available finances to help elect Barrack Obama believing he was a sincere civil rights advocate and that the Democratic Party was espousing a platform for social progressivism and self-determination for all Americans regardless of what class or color or orientation or belief. We were fooled and we were lied to by the Democratic Party, and by Obama.
Those of us who are advocates for civil rights for Americans and who have been so since the 60′s will not be watching an inauguration the spiritual center piece of which is the bigot Rick Warren so Aretha’s dulcid tones will be lost on us, and we will never be led down the path by the Democratic Party again. By the way, I am not gay, as I hear consistently in the media that the only people who care about the Bigot Warren’s role in the inauguration are gay activists.
There has never been a greater demonstration of the concept that there is nothing to be offered Americans by either political major party than Obama’s wrapping himself in the flag on his inaugural podium with America’s leading bigot Rick Warren. I have worked to elect Democrats and to fight for civil rights since I graduated high school in 1967. I will work from this point forward to empower a third party to defeat Obama and whoever the Republicans trot out in 2012. I never thought that when we finally saw a black man finally assume the leadership of our nation, he would embrace as his spiritual standard bearer the leading bigot in today’s anti-civil rights battle in America. Now that there is an African American in the White House it is clear he is so “in” that he can join the establishment in discriminating against others.
We will forget all about it when Aretha Franklins sings………….YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!!!!
Posted by: Tom Eamoe | December 21, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. Chicago’s pay for play. One month before Obama was elected senator, running unoppposed, a ‘newly created position’ was filled by Micelle Obama at Chicago’ hospital at over $300,000.00
per year. The govenor was expecting the same for his wife.
Posted by: Bob | December 21, 2008, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Like it or not, Obama is going to be the next President, no matter what the above commentators seem to hope for. Hillary can never be President. If Obama failed, his cabinet would go down with him. No former Secretary of State ever made it to President.
Posted by: Ergo Sum | December 21, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
1. Obama Handily Won The Presidency.
2. He Won 67 Million Votes
3. He Won The Electoral College…
[365] !!!
4. McCain-Palin Lost Handily
5. McCain-Palin did Not get 200 Electoral Votes, moreover 270 Electoral Votes !!
6. McCain was Beaten in 3 Key Southern States…
NC, Virginia and Florida
7. McCain Lost in Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Illinois and Throughout the Northeast.
8. McCain Lost New Mexico, Colorado and Nevada, his next Door Neighbors.
9. McCain Lost California, Washington & Oregon State.
10. The American People have Spoken and it was Decisive and Emphatic..
No matter what you Say, Do or Think…
No matter how Hateful or Dissenting or Disgusting, your statements…
Barack Hussein Obama, will be Your Next President of the United States Of America !!!!
I can’t wait to hear him Say…
“I Barack Hussein Obama” on January 20Th…
Just because it Pi$$es Hate Mongers like some of You …OFF !!!
Haha Haha Haha Haha !!!!
Posted by: o. | December 21, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
By the time Aretha Franklin sings, the timeclock starts. We will have about two years before the unintended consequences of Obama’s socialist big-spending so-call bailout of 1 trillion of our tax dollars will come home to roost.
The 95% of working families will get a tax cut is but a figment in the Obama faithful’s imagination! Our taxes will be raised as well as more money will be printed. Obama is no more that Jimmy Carter with a tan. God help us all. Stagflation and mysery index will once again become often used phrases.
Posted by: Darryl | December 21, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Hey O.
Obama will be YOUR president….not mine.
He is not a US citizen and he is unfit for office.
Peace on you.
Posted by: E.G. | December 21, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Politicians never learn. DENIAL is always worse than the truth. Of course the Obama camp contacted Blago over the Senate seat. So what ? Contacts like this have been made since the beginning of political time….about 3,000 years ago. So, when Obama and all the other liberals deny it…..said denial loses any and ALL credibility and plausibility. Any big league politician who didn’t have a “name” or “names” to be recommended for a Senate Seat about to be vacated, and didn’t recommend the “name” or “names”, is a liar……PERIOD…………. Giving a recommendation is NOT criminal. It’s common practice. Denying it and lying about it is where these politicians always convict themselves.
Posted by: Bill Brady | December 21, 2008, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
….and Jimmy Carter won the election against Gerald Ford. What did Jimmy Carter bring us?
double digit inflation
double digit interest rates
double digit unemployment
gas rationing – even days, odd days
55 mph speed limit
mysery index was termed
stagflation was termed
iran hostage crisis
Obama is no more than Jimmy Carter with a tan. God help us all.
Posted by: Darryl | December 21, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Jazzy Jaxxi , going to wait and send Obammer and his gang to jail. They are the crooks and will be easier to prosicute and get a conviction.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Sure. One looooong phone conversation that extended over several weeks, but, hey, no quid pro quo was ever discussed. This I got first hand from the Tooth Fairy.
Posted by: Incredulous | December 21, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Once again Obama hasn’t implemented any policy changes yet. You’re projecting your fears on a man who isn’t even president yet. Looking at the facts you can thank Bush and his comedy of errors for the mess we are in. No it’s not media bias or slander, it’s fact. He was the man steering the ship for the past 8 years.
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“By the time Aretha Franklin sings, the timeclock starts. We will have about two years before the unintended consequences of Obama’s socialist big-spending so-call bailout of 1 trillion of our tax dollars will come home to roost.
The 95% of working families will get a tax cut is but a figment in the Obama faithful’s imagination! Our taxes will be raised as well as more money will be printed. Obama is no more that Jimmy Carter with a tan. God help us all. Stagflation and mysery index will once again become often used phrases.
Posted by: Darryl | Dec 21, 2008 12:54:26 PM”
Posted by: Joe | December 21, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Nikki, hmm, and who is this very small group of “the right” that supports Bush? His approval rating is the lowest of any president. It can’t be all of “the left” that hate or disapprove of Bush.
“Posted by: nikki | Dec 21, 2008 11:12:06 AM
The extreme hatred that the left has shown to Bush over the last eight years has built up a lot of hostility on the right to anyone perceived as being part of that. I feel sorry for Mr. Obama because he will be on the receiving end of their retribution. The left should have remained level headed in their opposition to Bush and left the personal attacks alone. It has really created an environment where every politician is going to be attacked.
Posted by: nikki
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nikki, you are right with this statement. The left shouldn’t get mad with the criticizm of Obama as much as they criticized Bush. After eight years of bashing Bush, the lefties have it coming.?
Posted by: toddk | December 21, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Looks like it will be the One Term Obama name in the future. We are already calling him that in the south and I think his house is already crumbling. Make things out of cheap material and you get cheap things. Maybe Sarah will be our next President. Sure look good compared to the women we are seeing around Washington.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
1.What is it about the Republican Party that the losers, haters, and whiners find so attractive?
2.What is it about losers, haters, and whiners that find the Republican Party so attractive?
Posted by: Ale Vin | December 21, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
Blago; Hello? Emanuel; Blago, this is Rahm. You’re pretty damn lucky. Blago; What? Emanuel; Yeah! The fact that Frizgerald taped you before you got a buyer. Blago; So how’s that lucky? Emanuael; Well, he actually stopped you from going through with it. Blago; Going through with what? Emanuel; Selling Obama’s seat! Blago; What’s wrong with that? Emanuel; Never mind idiot.
Posted by: LongT | December 21, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Only one call.
wink, wink…
Posted by: Sigmonde | December 21, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
I’m tired of the “Sourched Earth” policies of the Republican Party.
They torched Rome and all they can do is attack Obama. They did the same crap in 1994 when they got the majority.
Isn’t there any Honorable Republicans anymore??? Oh right.. We know where they are. Anytime one criticizes the Republican’s actions, they get attacked by the Rush’s and Hannity’s of the world. ie… Hagel, Powell and dozens of others.
Can’t any of their leadership rise above this crap and start working to fix what Bush/Cheney have done to the country.
Posted by: Frank | December 21, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
nikki, you are right with this statement. The left shouldn’t get mad with the criticizm of Obama as much as they criticized Bush. After eight years of bashing Bush, the lefties have it coming.?
Posted by: toddk
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Todd, they will get mad. The liberals just can’t take criticism. I think Obama will be a one term President if he is not impeached before then. His house is already crumbling. Clinton is the only two full term Democrat since FDR. Something about this country they just don’t want a democrat in office very long. I think the only reason FDR was elected to the third term was the war. I remember how people were dis satisfied with him.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
“Sources tell me that the Obama team’s review of contacts with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich will show that Rahm Emanuel had only one phone conversation with Blagojevich.”
That’s convenient, sources also tell me that the Bush team’s review of documents show George W. Bush to be the greatest president ever!
Posted by: robtr | December 21, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
George!
Quit ABC and go work for your Messiah, Barack Obama.
You are a mouthpiece for Obama and not a journalist…..
You know there was more here than what “the Obama report” is saying….do your job and dig…..you know there is more to this!
Posted by: opedanderson | December 21, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
I love the “just report the facts” about this scandal comment. Give me a break. Obama was going to make a deal with Blago. He wasn’t going to pay him, but hmmm set up a 501(c)(4) organization that Blago could run. http://veerright.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/blagojevich-scandal/
Have you read the report released???
The MSM is just propaganda. Saddam Hussein was training, financing, and carrying out operations with al Qaeda since the early 1990′s. How do I know this? I read the Pentagon report on Saddam Hussein released last March 2008. How come you don’t know this? Cover-up at the Pentagon by Clinton hold-overs. Some idiot who was obviously paid off, put no link on page one of the report. The MSM pulled this line and ignored the report. No one actually read it. Wake up America before its too late. http://lfairmont.wordpress.com
This Blago scandal is just the beginning. Obama came out of the corrup Chicago machine. He worked with the machine, not against it. Come on Obama’s house was financed by Rezko who had the money wired from Sadda’s financier. No wonder he was against the Iraq war!
Posted by: Right Winger | December 21, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
The line about “lets just get on with the People’s Business” and leave Obama alone is nothing but PAP. The Media has been protecting this con man from day one, and it’s high time for real journalism in the US instead of this lame propaganda. I want to know everything about Obama, including the likelihood that he is not even an American citizen, and to hell with the “Peoples Business”!. He will do nothing but make a mess of that anyways.
Posted by: Ray | December 21, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
It’s mindboggling how university professors, national media, and Democrat politicians like to pretend how much the country suffered under Jimmy Carter never happened. It’s irresponsible!
Then young Democrats end up being told Jimmy Carter is this statesman of great stature. They join internet debates and end up getting spanked because they try to present untrue notions about Jimmy Carter, not realizing they were disinformed by those they trusted.
Barack Obama is Jimmy Carter with a tan. God help us all.
Posted by: Darryl | December 21, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
All that you have to know to realize why this country is in such a mess today, after 8 years and more of the Republicans destruction of anything that needed a shred of honesty, is to read this and other blogs. The non intelligent, hypocritical, ridiculous spewing of these tin hat “sink the nation, but remain stupid”,ilk, is a dead giveaway that the process of reasoning, is completely beyond their grasp.
They honestly believe that FACT is a four letter word.
Posted by: Darrell Leacock | December 21, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Leave up to the water carrying Georgie to lie about Rahm’s role in the Blgo mess. Now that Bush is going and Obama makes the economy worse, who will you lefties blame then?
Posted by: Tim | Dec 21, 2008 12:27:55 PM
That right!!! Who are those idiotic leftis going to blame when Bush is no long president and congress is controlled by the Dems.
As for me, I am just waiting for Obama to be impeach. It is just a matter of time.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
What does Rezko say about all of this? I’m sure he can clear up the code for pay to play.
“Appreciation” means what?
Posted by: Box7CofCOLB | December 21, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
“”There is no time for speculation…just report facts”"… So, everyone should not treat him like they treated Bush when he came into office? TYPICAL! Keep up the phat work libs!
Posted by: trax | December 21, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Obama is a breathtaking liar, and his supporters who won’t admit that are like the family members who refuse to acknowledge that one of their own is a dope fiend–No, no, he’s just pale; he’s losing weight because of a cold; the mailman must have taken the money from my purse. It’s called cognitive dissonance, as we all know, and there will be a great national flailing when a critical mass of his supporters finally look themselves in their mirrors and say, “I knew he was lying all the time, I just couldn’t admit it.”
One huge example. O’s “Auntie” is “discovered” living in public housing in Boston a few days before the election. Barry didn’t know anything about it! Had no idea his aunt and uncle were on these shores, living in Boston. Nor did anyone on his staff! AND, he “hasn’t been able to get in touch with her.”
The best-funded, poll-leading candidate in US history can’t “get in touch” with a blood relative living here? Uh…top of my head…call the right Boston Police precinct, ask if a cop would go look her up and hand her a cellphone, to talk to her nephew? It’s impossible that he couldn’t “get in touch” with her. That really doesn’t pass the smell test, or anything close. Any reporter with just a bit of aggression could have tracked her down for further interviewing. Either nobody wanted to, or, once the story broke, they had her in hiding.
Yet he told that lie, as he tells so many, with a challenging tone: Here’s the lie…you dare to question it? With the press, and his supporters, taking his or his staff’s denials as legitimate refutations, it’s going to be a while till a sufficient number of Americans realize we have elected the wrong guy. Not saying McCain was the right guy–just saying this is definitely the wrong guy, for this country, at any time. Obama will bring us to great grief.
Posted by: Just4TodayJB | December 21, 2008, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
James, you are a big fool. Obama was born in Hawaii and is fit to be president. You are just a hatemonger who will go down with the rethuglicans. Whether you like it or not he will be inauguarated PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ON JANUARY 20TH , so james,you may decide to pack your bag and baggage and move out of the country if you wish. You are so dumb, and apparently living in an illusion. The supreme court has thrown out the two cases pertaining to his citizenship. Go and read the constitution your self, it says nothing about a british subject. the requiremenst include being born on US soil. Get it into your thick skull that he was born in Hawaii, a US state. Iam glad Hilary was not nominated. She and bill have spent 8 years there, what more does she want? . James, you are one huge moron!!!.
Posted by: jibby | December 21, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
That’s also convenient because sources tell me that the FBI (under the Bush Administration) says that Rahm Emanuel is not a target in the investigation.
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“”Sources tell me that the Obama team’s review of contacts with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich will show that Rahm Emanuel had only one phone conversation with Blagojevich.”
That’s convenient, sources also tell me that the Bush team’s review of documents show George W. Bush to be the greatest president ever!
Posted by: robtr | Dec 21, 2008 1:09:46 PM”
Posted by: Joe | December 21, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
But, why won’t Obama produce an actual birth certificate from 1961?
Here’s what one looks like… http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Democrats have excoriated Bush of years. They, including Hillary and Powell, believed the intelligence reports and supported the war in Iraq.
Then, they called him a liar and vilified him almost non-stop to this very day. Now, those same folks are whining that someone has the audacity to suggest that perhaps their favorite son, OHB, may have similar proclivities.
Obviously he has lied, at least once, about this, since he said his “office” had no contact, which is a lie. So enamored are his minions and lackeys like, Stephanopoulos, that they will carry his water willingly.
Posted by: Sagacious One | December 21, 2008, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
Let Blago be responsible for his own actions. What’s Obama got to do with it? Nothing !!!!!
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
I don’t get it, obamanoids…. Obama ran Blago’s 2002 campaign, but there’s no connection between the two?
These are obama supporters, after all.
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Posted by: UCONN Election Study | December 21, 2008, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Has Nobama ever spoken the truth???? Boy, I really think those lefties have screwed things up big time by putting Nobama in the White House.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
jibby wrote
>>Obama was born in Hawaii<>The supreme court has thrown out the two cases pertaining to his citizenship.<<
Wrong. Berg's request for a Writ of Certiorari is still pending and is now scheduled for Conference before the U.S. Supreme Court on January 9, 2009.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Fellows: I am surprised at the Mc cain people and ex clintonians getting all excited/ It is common practice and normal for party leaders to discuss appoinments, that will come to election, and will affect the majority of Dem party. This sleezy in expereineced governor who has no future, thought he can sell some thing. But betetr heads prevailed. Even if Obama and Rahm discussed future apponiments and election, as long as there is no proff money or favor was exchanged, NOTHING wrong has happened.We hope people like this Gove and many others like him in office to day will be thrown out soon eneough, and the voters and press willpya more attention in these matters, than on foof ball and Brtney and Pres ‘s wife clothes.
Posted by: tonmose | December 21, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Dear Reaper, every court in america has dismissed the birth certificate issue. Stop trying to breed hate and face the facts. President-Elect Obama will be your President. Be sure to mind your manners and call him Mr. President.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Here George let me fix that first sentence for you:
Sources tell me that the Obama team’s review of contacts with Illinois “DEMOCRAT” Gov. Rod Blagojevich will show that “DEMOCRAT” Rahm Emanuel had only one phone conversation with Blagojevich. FTFY.
You left out the Democrat part. Pretend like its a Republican scandal where you would be focusing on the party affiliation.
Posted by: PhilMcKraken | December 21, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
If you believe “only one call,” then you also believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny. Dream on and have another drink of Kool-Ade.
Posted by: Mary S | December 21, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Emanuel made three or more calls too many on this Senate seat.
One courtesy call was enough.
He has embarrassed the President Elect and should resign.
Since he has not resigned his House seat, he need not worry about a job and who will succeed him.
Unfortunately, he will no longer be head of the DCCC and driving Pelosi mad.
Posted by: demsts | December 21, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
…..and Blago was not a target of the Rezko investigation. Rezko led the feds to Blago. We’ll have to wait and see if Emanuel gets his own investigation after the feds have their conversations with Blago. And should that happen, you same Obamabots will come here and tell us The Messiah is not a target of the Emanuel investigation.
Posted by: Darryl | December 21, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Growing up with Illinois politics it is really hard to believe that Obama is clean in all of this. It is hard enough to rise in IL politics at all without being a tad corrupt, but to have such a meteoric rise as Obama…the possibilities of him being as squeaky clean as ABC news would have you believe is laughable. I really, sincerely hope that against all odds he is clean for the sake of the nation.
Posted by: dbenson | December 21, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Just researched approval ratings. Obama has a 67% approval and Bush had 71% at the same time 8 years ago. I don’t believe Obama really has that high ratings, I believe it is media driven. I only know one person that for him and she is beginning to doubt her decision. I say in two years his approval will be below 50% and the black people will love him regardless of what he does. Hispanics will turn away from him.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Do you REALLY think that Obama and his team would be so stupid as to throw away the Presidency for this idiot governor? Seriously.
Posted by: Obama/Biden4u | December 21, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Nice covering headline ABC. Still working for the Obama campaign.
Problem is Mr. Obama said, “There were NO contacts with Blago and my team.”
A flat lie.
Posted by: Sam | December 21, 2008, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
You can take the man out of corrupt Illinois politics, but you can’t take the corrupt Illinois politics out of the man. This applies to Obama as much as it does to Emanuel.
Posted by: Jay | December 21, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
The rottenest turd of them all has come out of the Chicago cesspool … and Obamaites are in complete denial! I believe there are good reporters out there waiting to make a name for themselves when they expose this totally corrupt individual named Barack Hussein Obama II
Posted by: 02Z06Vette | December 21, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
Being part of an election-team in 2002 has nothing to do with the actions of a person (Blago) in 2008. Stop trying to connect President-Elect Obama and his staff with the issues that don’t concern them. Team Obama has bigger fish to fry like saving this country.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Do you REALLY think that Obama and his team would be so stupid as to throw away the Presidency for this idiot governor? Seriously.
Posted by: Obama/Biden4u
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Yes I do. I think he is stupid and as stupid as they come. He will be lucky to serve four years. They will be trying to impeach him after his first year. Wait and see.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
All those dirty Chicago politic; and Obama was in the middle of this dirt.
Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Blagojevich.
” Change” ; don’t let me laugh.
Obama; just a guy,who wanted to get higher up.
Posted by: Jim | December 21, 2008, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Being part of an election-team in 2002 has nothing to do with the actions of a person (Blago) in 2008. Stop trying to connect President-Elect Obama and his staff with the issues that don’t concern them. Team Obama has bigger fish to fry like saving this country.
Posted by: kacman1136
=============you are a joke
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
All that you have to know to realize why this country is in such a mess today, after 8 years and more of the Republicans destruction of anything that needed a shred of honesty, is to read this and other blogs. The non intelligent, hypocritical, ridiculous spewing of these tin hat “sink the nation, but remain stupid”,ilk, is a dead giveaway that the process of reasoning, is completely beyond their grasp.
They honestly believe that FACT is a four letter word.
Posted by: Darrell Leacock | December 21, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
I does not matter… The left-press will defend this guy and whatever he does or says.. It only matters HOW he says it now WHAT he says. Skim any left press paper or mag and see how biased the established Washingtonians are softening the beach for the Obama’s landing.. NOTHING will be his fault.
Posted by: Jerry | December 21, 2008, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Of course, the Big Chicago Political Machine has its tentacles wrapped in this political scandal.
Obama is part of the Big Chicago Political Machine.
So are Emmanuel, Harris, and Blagojevich.
Obama’s U.S. Senate seat was too valuable for all of these politicians not to be involved.
Posted by: USmarine0331 | December 21, 2008, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
kacman1136, RUBBISH!
– False rumors are circulating – Justice Kennedy denied Berg’s Application for an Injunction to Stay Electoral Vote Count by Congress on January 8, 2009. However, his Writ of Certiorari is still pending and is now scheduled for Conference before U.S. Supreme Court on January 9, 2009.
Stick to the facts and drop your childish invective. There’s no “hate” in Certifi-Gate….only the honest desire by millions of Americans to see that the Constitution is upheld and to ensure that Mr. Obama is actually a US citizen as he claims.
The preponderance of the evidence is that Obama was born in Kenya and is NOT a US citizen (natural-born or otherwise).
All Obama need do is produce a real Hawaiian birth certificate from 1961. He refuses to do so. WHY?
Here’s a side-by-side comparison of his Certification of Live Birth with an actual Certificate of Live Birth -
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
All that you have to know to realize why this country is in such a mess today, after 8 years and more of the Republicans destruction of anything that needed a shred of honesty, is to read this and other blogs. The non intelligent, hypocritical, ridiculous spewing of these tin hat “sink the nation, but remain stupid”,ilk, is a dead giveaway that the process of reasoning, is completely beyond their grasp.
They honestly believe that FACT is a four letter word.
Darrell Leacock
======================
I think I remember the country was glad to see Clinton go. His policies started the fall we have seen He is responsible for NAFTA and other programs that is part of our downfall. He is the one that took a lot of restrictions from the banks and wall street. Frankly for the financial part of these problems we are having I blame democrats. Bush will go down in history as a great President. I remember Harry Truman was in the same shape at the end of his Presidency, but today he is highly ranked and Bush will be also.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
“Patpp67, you have no idea who Rahm is do you? He is a Daley person. He paid his dues and Blago knew that. Obama helped Blago win two elections. They might not have liked each other, but they did play the game together. They helped bankrupt this state while Obama was a State Senator (along with 49 others). And this continues today.
Posted by: scott | Dec 21, 2008 11:52:37 AM”
Scott, I know Rahm quite well and I know he paid his dues. What I am saying is that Blago resents him because he is smart and rose to the top of the Democratic leadership. Blago was a rather undistinguished congressman in the same seat.
As far as BO helping to elect Blago, he was very tepid in his support as a US senator supporting a sitting Gov. I am well aware of Blago bankrupting the state, I work for the state of IL. BO was sworn into the US senate in 2005, in the last three years he had no part in the state of the state. Prior to his election as US senator, he was a state senator when the REPUBLICANS controlled the state senate.
The salient point to all of this is that there is little or no connection between the Blagos and the Obamas.
Posted by: Patp67 | December 21, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
George, George. Get your head out of Obama’s @ss before you lose all credibility. The cabinet posts have been filled. There is no more room in Obama’s administration.
You are absolutely pathetic.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
All Obama need do is produce a real Hawaiian birth certificate from 1961. He refuses to do so. WHY?
Here’s a side-by-side comparison of his Certification of Live Birth with an actual Certificate of Live Birth -
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
Posted by: The Reaper
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Because he was born in Kenya.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
Innocent until proven guilty. But, the justice system is not what it used to be. Patrick Fitzgerald should have been fired long ago for the mess-up with the Valerie Plame case.
Posted by: getITright | December 21, 2008, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
Is Appreciation a code word for corruption?
Posted by: dj | December 21, 2008, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Dear 02Z06Vette, You are showing your total ignorance and lack of education. You need to show respect for President-Elect Barack Obama.
May be you should drink the the Kool-Aid of respect for the highest office in the land or did you wake up this morning with your big cup of hate.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Because he was born in Kenya.
Posted by: barefootboy
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That’s indeed what it looks like. His grandmother Sarah, and his step-brother and sister all say he was born in the Provincial Hospital in Mombasa.
& because his mother wasn’t yet 19 years of age when she gave birth (14 + 5), she could not confer US citizenship on Barack.
Barack was a british subject (because of his father and Kenyan place of birth). He then became an Indonesian citizen when his step-father adopted him.
There’s no indication he was ever naturalized when he re-entered Hawaii….so, he’s technically an illegal alien.
Obama isn’t a US citizen, and he never has been.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Well, after 8 years of the moronic Clintons, we had a refreshing breather with Bush…he defended the country at his own personal cost and now, with an election shoplifted with ethnic, illegal voting run rampant, the left has put up a muslim sympathizing, corrupt, communist, illegal alien as their head of the snake. Too bad they’re hiding all the citizenship information (except what was poorly forged), his ties to the most corrupt pols and terrorists in the country, and the exposure of the most blatant, in-your-face usurper lies ever told. Someone get out there and push the O.J. of politics back out of our America…and he can take his tiny-brained lefties (who just can’t grasp that the bad economic situation has been caused again by the Dem congress) with him. Obamalamadingdong is too busy saving his own miscegenated hide to “save the country.” What a joke that little clown is. He’s up to his eyeballs in corruption and is a traitorous usurper of the first order. No wonder real Americans are arming to the teeth.
Posted by: WPWW | December 21, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
TRY TO SELL THAT CRAP SOMEWHREE ELSE. THAT RAHM ONLY MADE ONE PHONE CALL.. YOU MUST REALLY THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE FRICKING STUPID
Posted by: linda | December 21, 2008, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
I don’t think this is a serious mess for 0bama, although it may end up being messy for Emmanuel. But where it DOES hurt 0bama is in the credibility category, if the 21 phone calls by Emmanuel turns out to be the true number, not the “one” that 0bama claims.
Of course, it won’t matter to me, because I already consider 0bama to be a dishonest fraud.
Posted by: Nick in Virginia | December 21, 2008, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Obama said NO CONTACT with blago, then there was contact, now there was one call to Blago.
How many call FROM BALOG??
How many calls to a blago’s assistant that also included Blago??
Obama is trying to be Bill Clinton with the parsing of words.
For someone who wants his administration to be transparent he sill
has not released any of his records from his school.
He fights so hard to keep his birth certificate from the public!! What is he hiding and why will the media not ask him about that.
Why does he only call upon a select few news people. Does he have the questions in advance??
Posted by: Bruce | December 21, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
The recordings of Blago and friends, including Rahm, will be the final arbeiter of how many times Rahm spoke with Blago… not Obama’s alleged “investigation” of this fool, Stephanopulis, who’ll believe anything from The one.
Posted by: conservativewilderness | December 21, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
The Senate seat is a sideshow, although it may well lead to the revelation of the main event. Here is the main event–the connection between the Blago complaint and Obama–in a letter I sent to Patrick Fitzgerald:
Dear Mr. Fitzgerald:
Today you told the press, in connection with the Blagojevich arrest, “We were in the middle of a corruption crime spree and we wanted to stop it.” And yet most of the complaint is based on evidence you have had for a number of years. In other words, if the matter concerning the appointment of a Senator were removed, you would still have had enough evidence to indict Blagojevich. In fact, the complaint shows that you have enough evidence for a number of years.
This means that you and no one else, allowed Blagojevich to continue on a “crime spree” long after you had enough evidence to arrest him. Indeed, he would never have gotten to the point at which he was about to sell a Senate seat, if you had arrested him earlier. Why did you not do so? Why did you allow him to commit more crimes?
And now you are about to show the same negligence again. You are apparently about to make the same mistake with regard to Barack Obama. As you probably know, Evelyn Pringle has published detailed online articles concerning Obama’s participation in “Operation Board Games” crimes. Below, I reproduce paragraphs from your own Blagojevich complaint, and after them, a section from the Pringle Obama articles dealing with precisely the same facts as the complaint.
Her articles show in detail that Obama has committed the same 18 USC 1346 crimes you discuss in your Blagojevich complaint. And yet he has not yet been arrested. Why not?
Just as you allowed Blagojevich to get to the point where he was about to sell a United States Senate seat, so you allowed Obama to be elected President, and apparently you are willing to let him continue his own crime spree by actually becoming President.
It was irresponsible for you to continue to allow Blagojevich to continue in office when you had enough evidence to arrest him, and it is irresponsible of you now to allow Obama to continue in office and become President, when you have enough evidence to arrest him.
Arrest Obama now. It is irresponsible of you to wait any longer.
Sincerely yours,
John Ryskamp
I. FROM THE BLAGOJEVICH COMPLAINT
35. As described more fully in the following paragraphs, Mercy Hospital, which sought permission from the Planning Board to build a hospital in Illinois, received that permission through Rezko’s exercise of his influence at the Planning Board after Rezko was promised that Mercy Hospital would make a substantial campaign contribution to ROD BLAGOJEVICH. Rezko later told a member of the Planning Board that Mercy Hospital received the permit because ROD BLAGOJEVICH wanted the organization to receive the permit.
36. Levine’s criminal activities included his abuse of his position on the Planning Board to enrich both himself and Friends of Blagojevich. The Planning Board was a commission of the State of Illinois, established by statute, whose members were appointed by the Governor of the State of Illinois. At the relevant time period, the Planning Board consisted of nine individuals. State law required an entity seeking to build a hospital, medical office building, or other medical facility in Illinois to obtain a permit, known as a “Certificate of Need” (“CON”), from the Planning Board prior to beginning construction.
37. Levine, as well as Planning Board members Thomas Beck and Imad Almanaseer, testified under oath at the Rezko Trial.9 Beck testified that he asked Rezko to reappoint him to the Planning Board and that Beck thereafter followed Rezko’s directions regarding which CON applications Rezko wanted approved. Beck testified that it was his job to communicate Rezko’s interest in particular CONs to other members of the Planning Board, including Almanaseer, who were loyal to Rezko. Beck testified that he understood that Rezko spoke for the Blagojevich administration when Rezko spoke to Beck about particular CONs. Almanaseer testified that Beck instructed him that Rezko wanted Almanaseer to vote a particular way and that Almanaseer should follow Levine’s lead in voting on CONs. Almanaseer testified that before certain Planning Board meetings, he received notecards from Beck indicating how to vote on certain CON applications. Beck testified he provided these notecards to Almanaseer and certain other members of the Planning Board to communicate Rezko’s directions about certain CON applications.
38. During his testimony, Levine described a plan to manipulate the Planning Board to enrich himself and Friends of Blagojevich. The plan centered on an entity commonly known as Mercy Hospital (“Mercy”) that was attempting to obtain a CON to build a new hospital in Illinois. Levine knew the contractor hired to help build the hospital. In approximately November 2003, on behalf of the contractor, Levine checked with Rezko to determine whether Rezko wanted Mercy to obtain its CON. Rezko informed Levine that Mercy was not going to receive its CON. According to Levine, he asked Rezko whether it would matter to Rezko if Mercy’s construction contractor paid a bribe to Rezko and Levine and, in addition, made a contribution to ROD BLAGOJEVICH. Levine testified that Rezko indicated that such an arrangement would change his view on the Mercy CON.
39. Levine’s testimony regarding Rezko’s actions to change the Planning Board decision concerning Mercy’s application for a CON based on contributions for ROD BLAGOJEVICH is confirmed by attorney Steven Loren. Loren testified at Rezko’s criminal trial and, before that, in the grand jury.11 According to Loren, in approximately December 2003, Levine informed Loren that Rezko was against the Mercy CON. According to Loren, Levine relayed to Loren a conversation between Rezko and Levine during which Levine asked Rezko whether a political contribution to ROD BLAGOJEVICH would make a difference for Mercy’s CON, and Rezko responded to Levine that such a contribution might make a difference.
40. Thereafter, and confirmed by the testimony of Levine, Beck, and Almanaseer, as well as recorded conversations, Rezko switched his directions to Beck and informed Beck that Mercy was to receive its CON. According to Almanaseer, although he previously had been told by Beck that Rezko did not want Mercy to receive its CON, he was later told that there had been a change and that Rezko now wanted Mercy to receive its CON.
41. Mercy received its CON as a result of a controversial and irregular vote at a public Planning Board meeting.12 The vote brought significant publicity to the Planning Board and ultimately led to the disbanding of the Planning Board. Almanaseer testified under oath in the grand jury that not long after the Planning Board vote on Mercy’s CON he saw Rezko at a fundraiser. According to Almanaseer, he was still embarrassed about what had occurred at the Planning Board vote on Mercy’s CON and Rezko’s role in the vote. Almanaseer testified that he asked Rezko why Rezko had switched the vote on the Mercy CON. According to Almanaseer, Rezko stated: “The Governor wanted it to pass.”
II. FROM EVELYN PRINGLE’S “CURTAIN TIME” ONLINE ARTICLES
Tony Rezko is a private citizen. Therefore, the evidence presented in the trial focused on his influence over officials in getting members appointed to the Boards. Prosecutors did not discuss how the legislation got passed that enabled the Planning Board to be set up in a way that allowed for the appointment of members to rig the votes to begin with.
That part of the scheme will likely be detailed in future indictments, probably starting with Blagojevich. Blagojevich signed the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Act with an effective date of June 27, 2003. However, before he could sign the act, a bill had to be passed by the Illinois House and Senate. As discussed fully in Curtain Time Part II, Obama was the inside guy in the senate who pushed through the legislation that resulted in the Act.
Obama was appointed chairman of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee. The minute the bill was introduced, it was referred to his committee for review. The sponsors of the bill also served on this committee with Obama. Within a month, Chairman Obama sent word to the full senate that the legislation should be passed.
On May 31, 2003, Senate Bill 1332 passed and specified that the “Board shall be appointed by the Governor, with the advice and consent of the Senate.” The legislation reduced the number of members from 15 to 9, paving the way for the appointment of a five-bloc majority to rig the votes.
The corrupt members appointed included three doctors who contributed to Obama. Michel Malek gave Obama $10,000 on June 30, 2003 and donated $25,000 to Blagojevich on July 25, 2003. Malek also gave Obama another $500 in September 2003.
Fortunee Massuda donated $25,000 to Blagojevich on July 25, 2003, and gave a total of $2,000 to Obama on different dates. After he was appointed, Dr Imad Almanaseer contributed a total of $3,000 to Obama. Almanaseer did not give money to Blagojevich.
When the first pay-to-play scheme was put in play, and the application for approval of a new hospital was submitted, the Department of Human Services, along with four other Illinois agencies, sent recommendations that the project should be approved even though experts said the hospital was not needed.
During the trial, Rezko’s attorney presented an email exchange to the jury that hinted at Obama’s role in setting up the scheme. The exchange showed that Obama and seven other top Illinois politicians consulted on the legislation passed in 2003 and were involved in recommending the members for the board.
Matthew Pickering wrote the memo to Blagojevich’s general counsel, Susan Lichtenstein, on behalf of David Wilhelm, a former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, who headed Blagojevich’s 2002 campaign for governor.
Pickering said he and Wilhelm had “worked closely” over six months with state legislators. The memo recommended the appointees listed above and stated, “our attached recommendations reflect that involvement” with the political leaders.
The persons appointed to rig the votes, including those who contributed to Blagojevich and Obama, are cooperating in exchange for immunity or lighter prison sentences.
Feds shut down pay-to-play schemes
Only two pay-to-play schemes succeeded before the Feds swooped in and shut them all down. Blagojevich did not receive the $1.5 million from the Planning Board deal because the hospital was never built.
But Obama received $20,000 from the first kickback paid in the pension fund scheme and the straw donors used to funnel the $10,000 payments, Elie Maloof and Joseph Aramanda, also made $1,000 contributions to Obama’s failed run for Congress in 2000.
In addition, Aramanda gave $500 to Obama’s senate campaign on June 30, 2003. In the summer of 2005, Aramanda’s son landed an intern position in Obama’s Washington office.
Obama also received contributions for his senate campaign from the two persons appointed to rig the vote on the pension fund board. On June 30, 2003, Jack Carriglio contributed $1,000, and the other appointee, Anthony Abboud, donated $500 on June 30, 2003, $250 on March 5, 2004, and $1,000 on June 25, 2004.
The person chosen to funnel the kickback in a future scheme, Michael Winter, donated $3,000 to Obama on June 30, 2003.
All these people are also cooperating in exchange for immunity or lesser prison sentences but prosecutors pointed out during closing arguments that people who entered into agreements with the government are required to tell the truth or all deals are off.
Posted by: John Ryskamp | December 21, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
How did the aide know that appreciation was all they’d get? Doesn’t that clearly indicate there had already been a conversation higher up?
Why can’t Obama just tell the truth, which is that of course he spoke to Rob?
Posted by: John Plunket | December 21, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
A forged Hawaiian “Certification of Live Birth” printed in 2008 on a 2007 form is NOT a “Certificate of Live Birth” from 1961. Barack needs to stop fighting the lawsuits and produce his actual birth certificate (if it isn’t in fact a Kenyan document)…it ain’t that tough, is it?
Here’s a side-by-side comparison…
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Gen Jim Jones, a Republican and American Hero, as a Marine I know about Jim Jones, the former Marine Commandant, he swore allegience to Obama and to America and that is what I will do! On Jan 20th Obama swears allegience to us and our constitution.
Posted by: vma224 | December 21, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Has Obama picked out a dog yet? I haven’t heard. I mean, that’s what we all really want to know, right?
Posted by: Bill | December 21, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Hey, Georgie Boy,
That story is the lamest attempt to spatula makeup on an alligator’s @ss I’ve ever read. For a REAL story, get your hands on the REAL birth certificate, the REAL bar exam answers (re: drug use), his REAL college admissions and transcripts, his REAL grades, his REAL drug dealer… and while you’re at it, why not go ahead and reveal to the general public on your show the black radical racist thesis that Michelle (the roach’s wifey) HObama puked up in college. George, ya’ got NO cajones, boy. Reveal the traitor for what he is!!!!
Posted by: WPWW | December 21, 2008, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
There are an awful lot of nonsense posts on this topic on this blog. I haven’t even been watching mainstream news lately because I knew there would be yet another tempest in a teapot over this ridiculous speculation about Obama being involved in political corruption with the Illinois governor. I knew I would end up throwing things at my TV set over what has become standard on TV news – abysmal reporting. We are truly at a low point in journalism. It hasn’t been this bad since The Jefferson-Adams years.
Can we please get back to substantive, properly sourced and intelligently edited news? There’s a world of trouble out there, folks, and we citizens need to be well-informed about issues that matter. All those poeple who so love to use the Kool-Aid and “Under the Bus” metaphors, please, please, please, for the love of God, just stop. The rest of us out here are very tired of you. We have a Vice President who just admitted to approving war crimes, we are seeing consequences of appalling, unregulated corporate greed that is crippling real live honest working families, a health care system that doesn’t keep us healthy, loose nukes, global hunger. And you want to waste our time calling for Rahm Emanuel’s resignation because he spoke appropriately to his boss’s governor about a senate replacement. Sometimes I despair.
Posted by: Verified258 | December 21, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
On Jan 20th Obama swears allegience to us and our constitution.
Posted by: vma224
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That’s really meaningless, since Barack Obama is not a US citizen, and never has been.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Barefootboy only a hick would want Palin for President. Hey how about her associations her daughters future mother in law ( oh year the kid will be born out of wedlock) is a druggie
Posted by: Carramea | December 21, 2008, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
.”A forged Hawaiian “Certification of Live Birth” printed in 2008 on a 2007 form is NOT a “Certificate of Live Birth” from 1961. Barack needs to stop fighting the lawsuits and produce his actual birth certificate (if it isn’t in fact a Kenyan document)…it ain’t that tough, is it?”
brilliant work, call the FBI, call the National Guard, you have to arrest those Hawaiian Republicans that verified his birth, quick tell the state police, arrest them, also arrest the Supreme Court for aiding Obama, be a patriot, we will all be in your debt, then you should apply for Intelligence czar, you have outpaced all those officials with this fantastic information, this may just get you out of your Strait Jacket.
Posted by: vma224 | December 21, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
A lie is a lie only if the person that’s lying says it’s a lie, otherwise it just “mis-spoke”.
Posted by: Trisha | December 21, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Here we go again with the covert subtefuge and obfuscation…it’s not the crime it’s the cover up and lying to federal investigators, which is in itself a felony crime. But if there was no crime comitted…why all the lies and coverup, why didn’t Obama just come out and upfront in-you-face and tell the truth?…Careful here democrats don’t step in the fresh cow pies.
Posted by: Hank G | December 21, 2008, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Forget Rham, what about this?:
If 1/20/09 comes and goes with a usurper in the Whitehouse (that is, Obama is definitely NOT an Article II “natural born citizen” — dad Kenyan/British citizen at BHO’s birth –albeit he MAY BE a 14th Amendment “citizen”) with usurper enablers in Congress and the Supreme Court … God help us because many of the people will — rightfully and under our Constitution and Declaration of Independence — endeavor through other means to take back the Government from what is nothing less than a non-constitutional coup d’etat.
SCOTUS now does have the power to forestall that grim yet inevitable scenario, otherwise the blood and possible loss of our Constitutional Republic is SQUARELY ON THEIR HEADS.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Carramea,
Did you know Obama won? Get off Palin. The election is over.
Posted by: Trisha | December 21, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Rezko gave up Blagojevich in hopes of lightening his sentence. Will he now give up Obama over Barry’s house “deal” to get that elusive get out of jail free card?
This issue of the selling of the senate seat is just politics as usual in Chicago. Three people were forced out of the senate race whn Obama first ran for the seat. Do you really believe this was just some lucky coincidence that allowed Obama to run unopposed? All Chicago politicians are dirty. Some get caught earlier than others but sooner or later they are all exposed. Obama’s time is coming to face the consequences of unethical behavior.
Posted by: Nikki | December 21, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Can we impeach Obama before he gets in? Or would the blacks and college kiddies, that voted him in, have a fit?
Posted by: Dave | December 21, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Has Obama picked out a dog yet? I haven’t heard. I mean, that’s what we all really want to know, right?
Posted by: Bill
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named Michelle
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
vma224, invective isn’t an argument. Grow up, child.
Then, ask yourself why Obama refuses to produce an actual 1961 birth certificate….why fight 13 lawsuits – and counting? Why not just produce the 1961 document?? Seems simple enough.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Obama, Blago, Rahmmie, I don’t trust any of these people.They all look guilty.
Posted by: Anna | December 21, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
barefootboy…Harsh! But FUNNY!
Posted by: Bill | December 21, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
barefootboy & reaper, what Red-Neck school did you attend? Notice the word attend. I am sure you never graduated high school.
You should also realize that you are probably to poor to be a republican. The republican party would treat you like a trashy $2 moon-shine drinking hooker.
So step into the light of a new day. Mr. Barack Obama will be the 44th President of The United States of America. Learn it, Live it and Love it.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Gee, “Verified258,”
For corporate greed, look in the dictionary under Charlie Rangell, Bill & Hillary, Chris Dodd, Barack Roachbama, Henry Waxman, Eliot Spitzer & Paterson, Diane Feinstein, and the rest of the Dem congress.
If you think our healthcare system doesn’t keep us healthy, just trot off to Cuba (or Kenya) with Michael Moore (quickly, please!).
Loose nukes? Where?
Global hunger? You mean like in every leftist-controlled part of the world?
War crimes? You mean the Twin Towers, I’m sure.
You need to take your meds and crawl back under the covers. If we need you, we’ll come and get you, OK?
Posted by: WPWW | December 21, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Dave, were Obama to get in, with what is now known about Article II of the Constitution, the USA as a Constitutional Republic would be over.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
The Kenyan government has barred unapproved contacts between the media and President-elect Barack Obama’s extended family.
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Above News just came in on my Worldnet Daily News
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
The Reaper, Obama was born in Hawaii, BUT Hawaii was not a state yet! So does that make a difference, I hope. Bye Obama…
Posted by: Georgia | December 21, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
If Obama or Rahm did anything illegal it would be on tape. It kills me when folks are running with accusations and they dont have any proof. If there was something there Obama and Rahm would be a target. The repubs know this and that is why even Drudge has minimize it on his page cause now it makes him look bad.
And regarding the birth certificate issue. You guys dont think that Obama’s opponents looked into this?? The irony is that by the same definition that would ‘disqualify’ Obama..McCain would have been disqualified as well. But if being an American means being like Bush then I dont know what American means anymore. He was the most anti-american person ever, and now another administration is having to fix his mess.
Posted by: Tara | December 21, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
I have read many of the comments here…and am in total shock!!! I cannot believe the number of truly ignorant people here who have not bothered to do any research! For example, Obama was indeed born in Hawaii….it was proven long ago, the hospital records show it, etc… And yet, there are STILL people commenting here who refuse to believe the facts! And this is just ONE example of the many in these comments! Have we become a nation of Idiots??? P.S. Chachi, etc…You seem to be the only sane ones here!
Posted by: NancyD | December 21, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
March 12th, 1959 was when Hawaii became a state. So, if Obama was born there, he would be a natural born citizen of the US.
Posted by: Bill | December 21, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Hawaii and the birth certificate is a GIANT RED HERRING likely launched by Obama himself IN ORDER TO DIVERT FROM WHAT IS THE REAL ISSUE, that is, OBAMA IS NOT AN ARTICLE II “Natural Born Citizen” by virtue of his dad being a Kenyan/British citizen when Barack was born. Case closed.
(Makes no difference if BHO was born in the Lincoln Bedroom of the Whitehouse; his dad was not a US citizen, based on his own website statement, when he was born.)
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Obama/Biden4u,
That was tremendously naive and uninformed comment. It’s in the DNA of Chicago politics. The whole system is corrupt. For Obama to rise in the ranks so fast in that political system, it’s unavoidable for him to not be tainted by the corruption. Obama has been both smart and lucky. He has to hope his luck doesn’t run out to keep clear of all of this mess.
Posted by: Darryl | December 21, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Humorous to here the bleating `the Republicans are trying to trash Obama over the Blago issue’. That is patent nonsense. They have sat back, knowing the wunderkind prosecutor that the leftnuts thought was so great over Libby’s non-outing of Valerie Plame fame, is the one MAKING the charges and the one in control of PROSECUTING those charges. Period.
Posted by: DaleW | December 21, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Can we impeach Obama before he gets in? Or would the blacks and college kiddies, that voted him in, have a fit?
Posted by: Dave | Dec 21, 2008 2:55:17 PM
Dave, I normally don’t assume anything, but in your case I will assume that you never attended college nor voted.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
I have read many of the comments here…and am in total shock!!! I cannot believe the number of truly ignorant people here who have not bothered to do any research! For example, Obama was indeed born in Hawaii….it was proven long ago, the hospital records show it, etc… And yet, there are STILL people commenting here who refuse to believe the facts! And this is just ONE example of the many in these comments! Have we become a nation of Idiots??? P.S. Chachi, etc…You seem to be the only sane ones here!
Posted by: NancyD
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Nancy you are wrong. There are no records at any hospital that he was born there. All they have is a certificate that the experts say is forged. I think he was born in Kenya
myself now. At first I though it was just a move by some to stir things up but have done a lot of research and convinced he was born in Kenya and his grandmother and other members of his family say so also.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Dear, dear Tara,
McCain IS a U.S. citizen with citizen parents, for one thing. For the other, he was born on a US military base which is U.S. SOVEREIGN SOIL.
Now stay out of the conversation until you get yourself educated. You’re a prime example of why women were refused the vote for so long.
Posted by: WPWW | December 21, 2008, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Barefootboy only a hick would want Palin for President. Hey how about her associations her daughters future mother in law ( oh year the kid will be born out of wedlock) is a druggie
Posted by: Carramea
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I bet Carramea has never had a family member disappoint them. We all do, some are more serious than others and I bet you have disappointed your parents somewhere along the line. I know I have. Frankly I think Palin is much more of a moral person than Obama or Michelle or Biden. She is also very popular. Just wait 4 years.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Carramea, I would gladly vote for Sarah Palin. She was the only candidate in this years election that would have brought true reform, not just replacing one set of special interest groups for another. Hopefully she will replace Obama in 2012.
By the way, why has Obama developed a tick under his right eye? Could it be that he senses that the world is closing in on him? Could it be the house of cards and fraud that he built his career on are about to fall? Why would he spend $800,000 to defend lawsuits against the birth certificate issue when it would have cost $10 to have the state of Hawaii release it? Is he afraid his supporters, the press, will one day turn on him and actually investigate his background? Does Rezko talking to prosecutors and looking to avoid jail time make him wake up in a cold sweat?
“Twitchy” has a lot to be concerned about.
Posted by: Nikki | December 21, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Forget Blago, forget Hawaii, forget “birth certificate issue”.
This is real simple, BHO can not lawfully be the President under the United States Constitution, Article II, which for president and commender in chief uniquely requires a “natural born citizen”, to be distinguished from a 14th Amendment “citizen”, the latter of which Obama may or may not be, but again, that’s besides the point.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Dear, dear Tara,
McCain IS a U.S. citizen with citizen parents, for one thing. For the other, he was born on a US military base which is U.S. SOVEREIGN SOIL.
Now stay out of the conversation until you get yourself educated. You’re a prime example of why women were refused the vote for so long.
Posted by: WPWW
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You told it like it is. When I read some of the stuff some of the women write I think they shouldn’t be allowed to vote without taking a test.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Obama was indeed born in Hawaii….it was proven long ago, the hospital records show it
Posted by: NancyD
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Wrong. Obama has refused to release any hospital records.
“Proof” of his claim of Hawaiian birth would be a 1961 Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth, signed by the doctor and witness(es).
Instead, the document he has scanned and posted is a Certification of Live Birth – a completely different document – a document commonly issued to register the birth of a child born outside the US but to parent(s) who resided in Hawaii for at least a year prior to the birth.
Here’s a comparison of Obama’s 2008 “Certification” next to an actual hospital “Certificate” — totally different documents.
Ask yourself why Barack won’t simply produce a 1961 document??
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
McCain may not be a “natural born citizen” himself. Although both his parents were citizens of USA when John was born, he was born in Panama (not even on the military base).
IN FACT, THAT IS PRECISELY WHY TEAM OBAMA WANTED TO RUN AGAINST MCCAIN — because he was the only candidate who would not nor could not bring up the “natural born citizen” issue vs. Obama!
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Reaper, why don’t you show proof that you are a citizen of the US? Did you even vote in the election?
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
I think Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims. But I think it is more likely that the word `muslim’ appears on that birth certificate and is the reason behind the very strange hiding of the document by the authorities in Hawaii. Doesn’t seem to be very honest, but not the constitutional crisis some seem to believe.
Posted by: DaleW | December 21, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Amen, barefootboy.
Methinks some of these lefty morons will be fodder for the 2nd Amendment proponents sooner than they think. They don’t know the Constitution, don’t care about it, and would trash it to cover their own perversions…just like Roachbama is trying.
Posted by: WPWW | December 21, 2008, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
Again, even if Obama was born in Hawaii, the fact that his father was a Kenyan/British citizen when Barack was born preculdes him from being an Article II “natural born citizen”.
Hawaii and the birth certificate is a red herring to divert away from the Article II prohibition.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
And kacman, there coudldn’t be a greater constitutional crisis than this since the nation’s founding as a constitutiona republic (with the possible exception of the American Civil War).
This is big — it means whether or not we are to continue as a Constitutional Republic since Obama would be a usurper as president, outside the constitution.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Have all of you seen the latest about the address shown on the forged Hawaiian toilet paper that Roachbama’s lackeys puked up in a hurry? An investigator went to the neighborhood and address listed, and Roachbama and his mammy never lived there. In fact, the house was lived in by Orland and Thelma LeForgge for DECADES. No one in the neighborhood had ever seen a white woman with a black muslim hubby and little idiot pickaninny named Barack or Barry. No kidding.
Blobama’s hole just gets dug deeper with every passing day. His brainwashed and mesmerized masses will be overwrought in no time if he’s arrested for treason and trotted off to Lorton Maximum Security Prison just down the pike from the coronation outhouse.
Posted by: WPWW | December 21, 2008, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Reaper, why don’t you show proof that you are a citizen of the US?
Posted by: kacman1136
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I have…..when I joined the Army and when I applied for a Top-Secret SCI clearance. It’s not hard…you just produce a copy of a genuine birth certificate that was created when you were born. What Barack has produced wouldn’t cut it.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Obama told us there we no contacts. Now he says one contact while he really means 5 contacts. Next week it will be 10. Within a month it will be, surprise, 21 as has been reported by several sources. Why is the press cutting Obama slack on this changing narrative?
Posted by: Greg | December 21, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I believe that if the entire Democratic and Republican parties were both fully exposed for their corruption, that there would still be those who have been suppressed/oppressed by them still avidly defending them as having done nothing wrong!!!! Tentacles of corruption reach far and wide, it envelops many of the seemingly innocent who are actually the guiltiest! Any other profession we can find fault in the team/leaders we support except politics. There is enough blame to go around in poth parties and their supporters! Government is not GOD, polititians are not ANGELS, they have the love of money and power in their hearts! Blindly support them if you want and you will get exactly what you deserve, you will become their slave when you empower them to take care of your every need!
Posted by: DEF | December 21, 2008, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Then again, maybe, according to the main stream media, including ABC and George Steph, these constitutional issues are mere trifles when compared to the importance of reporting 24/7 on Sarah Palin’s wardrobe.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
As of yet, there is no proof one way or the other. Obama’s best strategy is to keep quiet lest he or his supporters say things they will have to painfully retract later.
Given the history of Chicago Politics though, the Democrats have little to toot a horn about; and it is sad that the press never addressed this serious issue.
Posted by: Sane American | December 21, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
McCain may not be a “natural born citizen” himself. Although both his parents were citizens of USA when John was born, he was born in Panama (not even on the military base).
IN FACT, THAT IS PRECISELY WHY TEAM OBAMA WANTED TO RUN AGAINST MCCAIN — because he was the only candidate who would not nor could not bring up the “natural born citizen” issue vs. Obama!
Posted by: Ted
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Now Teddy boy. You know better than that or you are just plain dumb. It was decided many years ago that if you were born on a base or parents were in service for our country that you are natural born citizen. Get you act together before you make such a claim. You know McCain is a citizen but you doubt Obama being a citizen. I didn’t say you believed he wasn’t but just had doubts. I believe before it is over with it will be proven that he isn’t but only time will tell. One reason is there is a petition going around that already has over 12 million people signing to for that question to be answered and for further investigation.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
dbenson: You’ve researched the numbers? LOL! Where?!?
No matter, so have I – and PE Obama’s approval rating not only surpasses BUSH’s transition, post-theft, by 14 points (and a whopping *50* points higher than Bush’s right now!) – but even 17 points above what President Clinton’s was during his transition in ’92.
******”Consider the result from the USA Today/Gallup poll showing 78% of Americans expressing approval for “the way Barack Obama is handling his presidential transition.” That’s obviously a big number, but Obama is certainly not the first newly elected president to experience a “honeymoon” of public support. How does it compare to past transitions? Fortunately, the Gallup summary includes this especially helpful paragraph:
That overall 78% approval rating compares favorably to the reaction Americans had to George W. Bush’s transition, for which an average of 63% approved in January 2001, and Bill Clinton’s transition, when an average of 66% approved from November 1992 through January 1993.
So the Obama transition approval number isn’t just big, it’s bigger than the last two transitions during which Gallup asked the question.” (Dated December 2, 2008)******
But hey – stay with the 28%ers and keep hope alive! Hope you continue to have fun with your “number crunching”. Maybe you’ll be able to get a few people to actually believe you. Like Bush – except even HE knows he was a disastrous, flaming failure.
Posted by: Justess | December 21, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Steph has obviously spent too much time under the Oval Office desk while Bill Clinton was there.
Imagine his surprise next go ’round.
Keep suckin’, George, keep suckin’. You’re still not black enough to sit at their table.
Posted by: WPWW | December 21, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Is Hussien going to be sworn in by the Koran??? It certainly looks that way.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Ted, I agree on the issue of Barack’s Kenyan father being a British subject.
There are just so many issues concerning Barack’s citizenship (natural-born or otherwise).
I know the courts are trying to duck this, hoping it’ll go away (IT WON’T!) and believing that if they do their duty and disqualify Obama, the blacks will riot worse than ’67…which is likely. In this case, the US has now sunk so low we’re really no better than the Kenyan hell hole that spawned “the Messiah”….
Keep buying ammo.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
What the headline really reads is:
Obama Team Clears Obama and Team of any Wrongdoing in Blago Scandal.
Give me a break please!!
Are you really taking this at face value?
Journalism
RIP
2008
Posted by: John from Chicago | December 21, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Oh Mr. Stephanopoulos ‘only one’? Please, when did you stop being a journalist? If this was anything to do with George W Bush, and not Obama this story would be completely different. Slamming W to the ground, and his chief of staff. But Obama gets babied.
How about being a journalist again? That would be nice but doubt it would happen.
Posted by: David | December 21, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Sane American:– It is a popular misconception that American military bases overseas are deemed US soil; but in any case, your big misconception — which is a widely held misconception — is that “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” is the same thing as “CITIZEN”. While Obama may certainly be a US “citizen” (albeit some dispute that as well), he is NOT a “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” which is a unique prerequisite our framers put in the Constitution applying to Presidents (for example, Senators and Congressmen need only be “citizens”, not “natural born citizens”.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
It does seem that some–and fortunately a proportionately small nunber–of republicans/others are sick people who are probably 1.racist 2. without vision 3. embalmed with hate 4. rush/ann lovers. They can not allow themselves to understand that this is the time for the country to pull together to face and solve the disastrous situations which our country now finds itself. The good news is that most of the nation is behind the president-elect, supports what he has done so far with cabinet and staff picks and is developing hope in the ideas and plans being formulated.
Posted by: jlp | December 21, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Justess,
Those polls were taken in Harlem, Southside Chicago, and Charlie Rangell’s back yard. Not valid “approval” numbers at all.
Posted by: WPWW | December 21, 2008, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
One call to the gov.
Four calls to the chief of staff.
Oh, but the feds records show *21* calls occurred? Hmmm, some good spinning going on here – wonder if the ‘truth’ will ever come out?
Posted by: Midas | December 21, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
George, how does it feel sucking Obama’s d**k???
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
How much does a pro-Obama comments poster get paid anyway?
Posted by: Thomato | December 21, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
The reaper: The ONLY way the issue will go away (over BHO not being a “natural born citizen”) is if the US Supreme Court resolves is with a written decision before 1/20/09. Otherwise, we face a catastrophe, as no laws, acts of Government, Treaties, etc. under a usurper are valid — and there will be utter chaos. Many Reservists and military will refuse any command under a usurper. In fact, by the oath to the US Constitution, THEY WOULD BE UNDER A DUTY TO RESIST OBAMA and anything issued under him.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
I was just reading that Rod’s parents come from Serbia! So that’s where his hotness comes from! I love the way he looks! Totally hot at age 52!!
Posted by: Rod Fan | December 21, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
we the people know that politicians don’t lie, ever. anyone that has ever been elected to any office is a perfect saint, a perfect angel. we the people know it, don’t we? believe that? yeah, right.
Posted by: Lawrence | December 21, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Seems Obama would fall under the “Naturalized” category and not the “Natural Born”. If he’s not a naturalized citizen then it’s certainly easy to prove…why doesn’t he? Why indeed!
Posted by: Hank G | December 21, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
David, don’t hold your breath waiting for the press to become unbiased. All major forms of media distribution including print, broadcast tv, news services, and cable news are going bankrupt. We should not be surprised that they will go out with a bang and allow their biases to become the story. It’s sad really. The media used to be our watchdog, now they are simply Obama lap dogs.
Posted by: Nikki | December 21, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Sane American:– It is a popular misconception that American military bases overseas are deemed US soil; but in any case, your big misconception — which is a widely held misconception — is that “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” is the same thing as “CITIZEN”. While Obama may certainly be a US “citizen” (albeit some dispute that as well), he is NOT a “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” which is a unique prerequisite our framers put in the Constitution applying to Presidents (for example, Senators and Congressmen need only be “citizens”, not “natural born citizens”.
Posted by: Ted
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Ted the courts ruled years ago that if my parents are serving in the armed forces on foreign soil and I was born while they were there, I would automatically be a US Citizen. If I was born in Kenya and my parents are not in service for my country that I’m not a citizen.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
conspiracy 1: Obama not a citizen—0
conspiracy 2: Emanuel corrupt—0
next right-wing conspiracy
kick a** and take names Emanuel!
Posted by: Paul Wall | December 21, 2008, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
“Naturalized” citizen is NOT ENOUGH to satisfy Article II. He must be “natural born” citizen.
Being a naturalized citizen is perfectly fine for everything else EXCEPT THE CONSTITUTIONAL UNIQUE REQUIREMENT FOR PRES. Why do you think there were efforts by Obama associated attorneys before Obama ran to try and discount the importance of the “natural born citizen” requirement as antiquated? The only problem is that, to change that requirment would require a Constitutional Amendment, which has never beed done on that (and doubtful after whatr we know now, ever will pass).
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
All of this talk is a distraction from the FACT that we are all living in some kind of Truman Show. Reality is created by the media. Philip Zelikow’s (head of the 9/11 Commission).. college thesus was on creating and sustaining ‘public myth’. Until we are willing to take a hard look at the science involved in the distruction of WTC 1,2 & 7 we will continue to spin our wheels. How many more lives will be lost before we WAKE UP?!! I have found that when people finally realize the government’s 9/11 story is a total lie, the left/right paradigm ends.
Posted by: Diane | December 21, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Since Obama feels comfortable with George he should do an interview with Obama’s family from Kenya. The public doesn’t know much about Obama’s family except he has a wife and two daughters. I’ve seen a picture of his white grandmother and grandfather when Obama was in his teens and a few pictures of his mother. Obama wrote about his black family in his book, but other than that the public knows so little about them. Since Obama claims his black roots, surely Obama’s family will be in town for his historical inauguration. Obama’s family could share an insurmountable wealth of Kenyan history to blacks here in America. That would be the interview of all interviews and blacks would surely connect to their true historical roots. That would be absolutely unbelieveable.
Posted by: debbie | December 21, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Ted, sadly, I’ve believed for some time now that the only thing that can save the Republic would be either a military coup or a nuclear attack on Washington which would wipe out the entire corrupt oligarchy.
Bush has looted the treasury, and Obama isn’t even a citizen, natural-born or otherwise.
Keep buying ammo.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
barefootboy, YES YOU WOULD BE A “CITIZEN” but NOT AN ARTICLE II “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”. You are and would be a full citizen of the USA with all rights EXCEPT ONE, that is, to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
It doesn’t matter how many times various Hawaii state officials examine and verify Obama’s birth record, the RW has latched on to a meme, and won’t let go. It is part of the reason the US is in such dire straits today, people supporting those who do not have the best interests of America in mind.
SOP for GOP, facts be damned, ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK, no matter the cost, ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK!
Posted by: Matilde | December 21, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
I hope they are taping his visitor’s comments too. I wouldnt put it past the gop to try and get him to make a deal about what to testify and against whom.
Posted by: adamrussell | December 21, 2008, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
barefootboy, YES YOU WOULD BE A “CITIZEN” but NOT AN ARTICLE II “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”. You are and would be a full citizen of the USA with all rights EXCEPT ONE, that is, to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
Posted by: Ted
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Ted you are wrong. The courts have already ruled on that years ago. You check with any lawyer. My daughter is a lawyer and she verified this again since you and I started this conversation. You had me doubting it for a short time there. I remember this coming up on one of the forums before the election and the person that was arguing against McCain finally admitted he was wrong.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Reaper, I took the opportunity to review the side-by-side comparison link you provided. It appears that both documents are “certificates of live birth.” I did notice two things.
Obama’s document has an actual governmental seal at the top of the document. If you look at the bottom of the document it also states “This copy serves as facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceding.”
Do you think the state of Hawaii would produce an invalid document of birth in there state?
If you are a ture militray man, why don’t you respect the word and honor of your new “Commander and Chief?” I also noticed that you only applied for security clearance. Were you denied? If not then, you would be denied now due to insanity.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
Barefootboy, I AM NOT WRONG, AN ARTICLE II “natural born citizen” requires being born to both parents who are citizens (albeit the parents don’t have to be “natural born”, they could have been naturtalized, so long as they ARE citizens at the time of uour birth.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
How would ABC be privy to these conversations.George you are showing yourself.Remember you have Bill and Hillary to make up with.
Posted by: menace 290 | December 21, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Here’s some food for thought: In more ideal circumstances, isn’t some communication here standard and even necessary???? Could it even be avoided? Guilt by association… or in this case, by phone call. I see storm clouds a brewin’ for Obama’s already planned impeachment by the Supreme Ayatollas of the US… I mean, the Republicans.
Posted by: John Higgins | December 21, 2008, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
What kind of society do we want? Unfortunately, civil discourse has become a casualty in the last 25 years.
Do we want unfettered greed to guide us in the name of private enterprise? Or do we want the big brother to control every facet of our life? Do we want to work hard to support ourselves and the unfortunate ones in our extended family, and be responsible and also accountable for our own actions or do we want to be lazy and claim a birth right to be fed, clothed, housed, and taken care from birth to death by the government (our big brother) who will then sock the wherewithal from the “have”s to continuously feed generations of those who claim a god given right to waste their lives and yet produce children who then are made wards of the society (as if it is not their personal responsibility and business? No civilization has ever survived all these kinds of one-sided idealoties and problems. The solution seems to be to strike a healthy structural balance between these competing conflicts and interests.
Posted by: narumanchi | December 21, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
It doesn’t matter how many times various Hawaii state officials examine and verify Obama’s birth record
Posted by: Matilde
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All the Hawaiian Dept. of Health has “verified” is that Barack’s birth was recorded there…not that it took place there.
The “Certification of Live Birth” Barack has posted (which experts say is forged – 2008 document printed on a 2007 form) is NOT a “Certificate of Live Birth”.
Here’s a side-by-side comparison of the two types of documents:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
Barack’s (forged) “Certification” is a document commonly provided to Hawaiian parents who wish to record their child’s birth when it took place outside the US, like in Mombasa, Kenya where Barack was actually born.
All Obama has to do is produce an actual birth certificate from 1961….so, why won’t he?
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
barefootboy, YES YOU WOULD BE A “CITIZEN” but NOT AN ARTICLE II “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”. You are and would be a full citizen of the USA with all rights EXCEPT ONE, that is, to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
Posted by: Ted
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Ted why has the courts ruled that they can become President if what you say is true. I think you are wrong. McCain is a citizen and qualifies to be President. This has been settled years ago and nothing you say will change it. Check with a lawyer if you doubt it. I think you will find you are wrong.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Why is it when you have any questions about Obama you are instantly a Republican? (I was unaware the news media became a massive right wing conspiracy.) I graduated high school over 20 years ago, but it seems like our national politics are taking me right back there. Ra ra ra?
Posted by: iqd | December 21, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
How does ABC have privy to this info?George it’s showing.Remember,the Clinton’s may not forgive you.
Posted by: menace 290 | December 21, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
If Obama were to ascend to the Presidency HE COULDN’T EVEN BE IMPEACHED (if the Courts later took action) because he was never a valid President in the first place.
He would be arrested and forceably removed from the Office (and likely charged with the greatest fraud in American history).
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
“Sources tell me that the Obama team’s review”… Good one George. One sided. You have extreme journalistic talent. I bet those same sources could convince you Santa is real.
Posted by: doug | December 21, 2008, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
I guess for me it comes down to this question: Is Obama the only virgin in the whorehouse? It may sound unlikely, but it isn’t impossible. So I just don’t know what to think at this point.
Posted by: Scorpredhead | December 21, 2008, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Obama needs to distance himself from anyone with contact to the unindicted felon Mayor Daley.
Posted by: stopcitycapers | December 21, 2008, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
The Courts have never ruled that “they” or Obama or someone not a “natural born citizen” could be Pres. So far the Supreme Court has just denied a stay, or denied an injunction, of the Electors from voting. The merits of the case — whether Obama is a “natural born citizen” are still pending. And I can say this with certainty, IT IS AN AIRTIGHT SLAM DUNK CASE that Obama is NOT an Article II Natural Born citizen. The Supreme Court knows this — but thus far is afraid to rule — when if they don’t rule, they will have lost all credibility and our Constititional Republic would be in great peril.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
I WISH THE REPUBLICANS WOULD STOP WITH THE HATE AND AND HOPING OBAMA WILL FAIL AND SUSPECTING HE WILL LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING AND THAT HIS ASSOCIATES ARE THUGS!! OH, WAIT…THATS WHAT DEMS HAVE BEEN DOING FOR 8 YEARS. NEVERMIND…
Posted by: kc | December 21, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Reaper you have shown your true colors with your keep buying ammo comment. You and others like you are the biggest threat to the nattional security of the United States. I hope the government monitors this blog and finds you. You need to be placed on the FBI’s Most Wanted List.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
I guess I should say thank you for providing an example of the point I was making.
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A birth announcement was published, you can see it at:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
For further confirmation:
The Hawaii Department of Health receives about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obama’s birth certificate, spokesman Okubo said.
“I guess the big issue that’s being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature,” Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. “Because they scanned the front … you wouldn’t see those things.”
Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
On a personal note, I recently got a copy of my birth certificate. I was born in Maine several years later than Obama, and my copy looks just like his.
Posted by: matilde | December 21, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Reaper, I took the opportunity to review the side-by-side comparison link you provided. It appears that both documents are “certificates of live birth.”
Posted by: kacman1136
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No. I’ve explained this above….try reading again. Certification vs. Certificate …..totally different documents that serve different purposes….even the Hawaiian Dept. of Land and Natural Resources won’t accept the Certification but insists on the actual Certificate.
Millions of Americans want to see an actual birth certificate from 1961, with actual doctor and wirness signatures……not a scanned forgery printed in 2008 on a 2007 form.
Seems simple enough.
…and yes, hun, I held a TS/SCI-codeword clearance for the 6 years I served in the Army. Had it renewed once.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
kc, Obama has already lied, misled, told half truths, about everything already — HE KNOWS THAT HE IS NOT AN ARTICLE II NATURAL BORN CITIZEN — but wants a “change”, to “change” from that old antiquated Constitution. He is the most notorious con man in the history of the USA, perhaps in world history.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Generally speaking, the Supreme Court wouldn’t touch this case with a 10 foot pole. The People were informed enough on Obama’s heritage and birth. The question is: would anyone have the **** to overturn the will of the People? A majority voted with a very informed decision in mind. Verdict? We don’t really care. He’s American enough.
Posted by: John Higgins | December 21, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!
For
WATERGATE II
Posted by: david | December 21, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
kacman, the Government already does have FEMA Concentration Camp train cars — many of them — with shackles. This is no joke. (perhaps they are intended for all those who don’t follow the Obama script — and unfortunately that’s no joke either)
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
matilde, America needs to see an actual birth certificate from 1961.
Barack hasn’t produced one and won’t allow access to any such record, choosing instead to fight all the lawsuits….why?
What’s he hiding?
Why not simply produce a 1961 birth certificate?
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Ted, my argument was not about Obama. I don’t think he is a citizen. I was talking about McCain and the courts have ruled that if a service man has a child while stationed on foreign soil, that child automatically becomes a US citizen. For you information I was born in Germany and I’m a citizen. My dad was in the army and stationed there. If I run for President I could, but I may qualify by citizen ship, Just not qualified education wise.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
John Higgins, regarding “will of the people”, they were misled by fraud regarding Obama, with the main stream media totally in his camp.
BUT ANYWAY, WE ARE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, not simply a majority rule democracy.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
So, what would it take for you crazy birth certificate people to let that one go? Will you need to personally hold it in your hands? Experts say it’s not valid? You mean crazy conspiracy republicans hunting for anything they can find to cancel this last election out here? This is absurd. Just when we think nothing more whacky can come off your side we get surprised. McCain lost. Deal.
Posted by: NotaSpammer | December 21, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
barefootboy, I’ll concede that perhaps the McCain question is up in the air, at least to some — but many legal people say he is not a “natural born citizen”.
Anyway, to me at least, the McCain issue is an aside (but interesting that he was the one candidate who would not raise the issue, and even the Senate purported to issue a resolution on his qualifications for this very reason, albeit it has no legal force and/or effect.)
BUT THERE’S NO QUESTION THAT OBAMA IS NOT AN ARTICLE II “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
uhm…justess, barefootboy wrote that post, not me, but thanks for the constructive criticism anyway…
Posted by: dbenson | December 21, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
It is disgraceful for Mr. Stephanopoulos to couch this as ONLY ONE. Mr. Nixon only had one contact not even involving Watergate and it got him impeached. Hitler only had one contact about working Jews to death and in the law it only takes one rape, assault or lie as President Clinton found out before the Justice Department gets involved.
One phone call, one conference meeting, one this one that and all of a sudden Mr. Emanuel is talking all the time.
This is a shame in this cover up which ABC is a part of and Mr. Stephanopoulos should be fired for his propaganda.
In honesty, Mr. Emanuel is the type of Chief of Staff this nation needs as he is a heavy handed thug who could control Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Mr. Obama though has literally destroyed his best asset in sending him out to do dirty work over Mr. Obama trying to micromanage a Senate seat as Mr. Obama’s own personal reward to someone who worked for him.
As noted, Mr. Obama’s own staff states they were informed of the Blagojevich investigation by a comment by Mr. Gibb’s of Mr. Obama’s staff. That is illegal in someone from FBI or US Attorney was speaking about an ongoing investigation in which Mr. Obama was a part of.
Mr. Obama has not helped himself one bit in lying about contacts, playing cute like Mr. Stephanopoulos in word play and then blaming Gov. Blagojevich for the entire mess.
This demands Congressional hearings and Special Counsel appointed now. Who in Justice was tipping off the Obama campaign illegally?
Why is not Mr. Obama nor his operatives indicted for attempting to purchase the seat in favors which Gov. Blagojevich is indicted for?
This is political criminal filth. While I would never vote for Rahm Emanuel, I will stand up for him now as John Adams would as this man is being hung out to dry in the most disrepectful of ways by Barack Obama in taking all of this blame. Mr. Emanuel was there working on orders from Barack Obama in one call or a dozen meetings and it was an illegal sale of the Senate seat.
America needed a Rahm Emanuel to assist in real policy, but now he has been tainted and criminalized. For those who say to ignore this, this is criminal from Barack Obama and a pattern of things he has been doing for years. This nation survived Watergate, survived the coup attacks against Bush 43 and it will survive an indictment or a 25th Amendment removal of Mr. Obama if necessary by Democrats in Congress.
This would mean either Joe Biden as President or Hillary Clinton if Mr. Biden is indicted too. That is the way the law works and should be working as statements like Mr. Stephanopoulos only add to the prolonged agony of this.
Admit Mr. Emanuel was used incorrectly and illegally. Let him get legal counsel and cop a plea for a Scooter Libby sentence and as Mr. Obama had a direct hand in this seat sale have him do the honorable thing in stepping down as Mr. Nixon did instead of dragging this out at which time the GOP will regain control in 2010 and impeach him.
If Mr. Obama had been challenged by the press, none of this would have happened. ABC is the chief problem in this in not investigating a thing in Mr. Obama’s past nor dealings.
Minorities and Democrats will now have to pay for this scandal which should not have happened and it certainly should have never involved Rahm Emanuel.
Posted by: Lame Cherry | December 21, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
The question is: would anyone have the **** to overturn the will of the People? A majority voted with a very informed decision in mind. Verdict? We don’t really care. He’s American enough.
Posted by: John Higgins
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Hopefully, the military will care enough to remove him should the legislative and judicial branches fail to uphold the Constitutional requirements to serve as President.
Your “mob rule” mindset is exactly why the Founders created a republic instead of a direct democracy, and why there is absolutely no right for you to vote written anywhere in the US Constitution. Electing a President was too serious a matter to be left to the sort of illiterate swine who make up the Obot legion.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Lame Cherry, so you’re saying that perhaps Obama set up Rahm Emanuel to take the fall all along?
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Obama is living in Chicago; and of course he knew what was going on there and he had contacts with these political criminals.
That is how it goes in Chicago.
But he has the support of the media; they supported and shielded him and are very “nice” towards him.
We knew in two weeks more about Sarah Palin than in two years about Obama
Posted by: Laura | December 21, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Barefoot: You miss the point. I hear the conspiracies. Give me proof he wasn’t born here. Give me proof that his birth certificate is a fraud. Give me proof that the birth caption in the Hawaii newspaper in 1961 declaring his birth was in fact planted there over 40 years ago (maybe through time travel by his grandmother?). Since you don’t have any, you rely on interpretations and technicalities, all of which are HIGHLY debatable. You say its fraud. I’m just not that convinced. Neither was the Federal Election Committee. Or the Republican Party, for that matter. Deal with it.
Posted by: John Higgins | December 21, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
I plan to give Obama all the courtesy, respect, support, and benefit of the doubt for a new Presidency that was given to Bush back in 2000 by the Left.
NONE.
Posted by: Colin | December 21, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
John Higgins, OBAMA’S OWN WEBSITE STATES THAT HIS FATHER WAS A BRITISH/KENYAN CITIZEN WHEN BHO WAS BORN! What else do you want for proof on that?
And insofar as the “birth certificate”, many many many people havce called for him to release what is on file and under seal in Hawaii. WHY WON’T HE RELEASE THAT???
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
You will all leave Rahmy and Me alone….until I am indicted….too..
Thanks for trying to cover for us Dims again George, the check is in the mail…
Posted by: B Hussein Obama | December 21, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Nothing wrong was done here. Illinois politics dictates skid-greasing with greenbacked lubricants. Prez 44 is a product of the Chicago Machine, as is the Blago, as is Emmanuel, as is Daly. Valerie Jarett has quite a distinguished pedigree and would be a great fit. More importantly, however, is the practice of governors appointing replacements. It opens the door to corruption, quid pro quo, and nepotism (Jax Jr, Princess Caroline). Perhaps the dems can put an end to the practice and pass into law special elections. Now come on, folks, let the new President-who speaks to the common man-enjoy his stay at a million dollar resort in Hawaii while the rest of us freeze our broke a**es off.
Posted by: Perspective Prime | December 21, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
And John Higgins, the newspaper birth announcement lists Obama’s grandparents’ address!
Hawaii allowed you to have certificates of live birth filed there even if you weren’t born in Hawaii. That is precisely why the Hawaii authorities are very careful to say, yes, they’ve seen anb authentic birth certifcate on file, but won’t say whether it shows or states Obama was born in Hawaii.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Whew. That’s a relief. Who would have thought that Obama might have some concern of his successor in the Senate.
Now I can sleep better with complete knowledge that our president-elect is above even this scrutiny.
Posted by: avande7217 | December 21, 2008, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Higgins,
Proof that Obama was born in Hawaii would be a copy of his birth certificate from 1961…….not a “certification” from 2008 on a computer-altered 2007 form.
Why won’t Obama produce a 1961 birth certificate?
Why is he fighting the lawsuits instead?
It could be something as benign as he’s simply embarrassed that his father didn’t sign the certificate.
….it could also be that his actual birth certificate is from Kenya and his birth was only registered in Hawaii – which is the typical reason someone from Hawaii has a “Certification”, but not an actual Hawaiian “Certificate”…..two different forms – here they are:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Does anybody believe this administration?? They’re nothing but scumbag lawyers.
Posted by: Ryan | December 21, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Last time, real slow…Hawaii’s birth records are not public information, only family members are legally entitled to receive a copy of a record of live birth, several different officials of the state of Hawaii went to the archives and physically examined the birth certificate on file, all have said it is authentic.
The ONLY people saying the certificate is a forgery are those who have ONLY examined a scanned copy or photocopy, none who have seen the original.
In an attempt to quiet the false controversy, SNOPES posted the original birth announcement, as it appeared in the newspaper at the time.
Whether you believe something or not has no impact on whether or not it is true.
Posted by: matilde | December 21, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Still, explain the posting from the Hawaii Newspaper the day after his birth. Your evidence doesn’t hold water. As for original birth certificate: I can’t even find mine. That’s why we have records that you can reproduce from. I challenge you to find that the hospital actually has NO RECORD of his birth, that the Hawaii government has NO RECORD that his birth was ever recorded, and furthermore, that the Newspaper posting was in fact bogus. Satisfy all 3 of these, and I might start listening.
Posted by: John Higgins | December 21, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Hey matilde — ANY FAMILY MEMBERS ARE ENTITLED TO RELEASE THEM TO THE PUBLIC!!!!!
Obama has spent nearly $1 million fighting their release!
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
John Higgins, people have investigated and questioned EVERY HOSPITAL IN HAWAII AT THAT TIME — and NO RECORD ANYWHERE of Obama’s birth.
And, the newspaper announcement was not a day after; it was more than a week after Obama’s birth, and shows his grandparents’ address. It would have been not unreasonable for his grandparents to want to show his birth there.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Does it even bother those moronic lefties that Hussein could possibly be an illegial alien in this country???
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Possiby YOU Dem’s did not VET Barry properly.
Posted by: killerbee | December 21, 2008, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
John higgins, and regardless, why won’t Obama simply release his sealed birth certificate, which he has a right to do!
Talk about ‘transparency in government’!
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
John Higgins, I guess the thought that you had actually voted for an illegal alien scares the hell out of you.
Still that is no reason to deny the fact.
Merry Christmas.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
My God Some of you are real “crepe hangers” All indications are that Obama or Rahm did not break the law.SO why can’t we accept that/why must folks always spread lies and innuendo ?
One post said : Obama will be the worst Pres ever !What garbage He is not even in office yet.
Posted by: dian | December 21, 2008, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Ted, show me the proof (or links) please. Pardon me for saying so, but almost every conspiracy out there on him has been based on some pretty serious misrepresentations. I won’t take your word for it.
Posted by: John Higgins | December 21, 2008, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
matilde & john higgins,
All Barack has to do is request an actual copy of his Certificate of Live Birth from the hospital where he was born or the HDH, or authorize its release to the press.
He refuses to do so. WHY??
Again, real slow….the “certification” is not an actual 1961 “certificate”. It’s more likely true than not that Barack does not have a 1961 birth certificate, because he was born in Mombasa, Kenya like his relatives there all say.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Hey guys, do you think George Steph and/or ABC News would take a look and report on the stuff in this, its own thread?
Don’t bet on it — it is not as important as stuff like Palin’s wardrobe.
And, ABC News will likely delete all this from the internet.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
http://www.obamacrimes.info/justthefacts.html
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
WHat if this was President Bush. All kinds of accusations would be flying. The Messiah Obama gets the benefit of doubt. The guy has zero experience, we know nothing about him.
Remember it is not the crime that snares people it is the coverup and lying.
Let the drama begin
Posted by: Bubba | December 21, 2008, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Hey ABC News, why don’t you take a look at the blogsite:
naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Oh, now I get it. Emanuel is only SLIGHTLY crooked.
Posted by: BlueMax372 | December 21, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Obama is part of the Chicago political cesspool and it’s much more than I am prepared to believe that he came out of that cesspool without a drop of stink on him.
Why is the national press pulling out all the stops to protect this man is entirely another question that should examined very close indeed.
Posted by: Pepperjunction | December 21, 2008, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Jeff Fish , Doesnt bother me at all. Obamas mother is an American. You conspiracy theory people are a sad lot.
Posted by: Carramea | December 21, 2008, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
The lefties may control the media but they control control the courts. Rahm should be locked away if found guilty and Obama should be deported to Kenya.
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 21, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
George S. is so eager to but this thing to bed… “one call”… nothing else to see here… Please lets move on, pleads George.
Posted by: Zeke | December 21, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Bubba, are you kidding, if George Bush, McCain or any Republican had done one zillionth of the stuff associated with or surrounding Obama sleaze, ABC news and the rest would be all over it 24/7.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
Jan. Remember.the media has to fill the 24 hour news cycle..thats why they keep the same old stories alive even though many of them are not even proven to be truthful.It’s all about making tons of money for the networks and Cable news CNN- MSNBC.Keep that in mind next time you view the 24 hour news stations.
Posted by: dian | December 21, 2008, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
“Does anybody believe this administration?? They’re nothing but scumbag lawyers.”
True, but they DO care about the price of arugula.
Posted by: BlueMax372 | December 21, 2008, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Dian, I wish it were only about making money. Unfortunately, it’s even much more about promoting a political agenda
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
If Stephanopoulous can’t identify his source, he shouldn’t report on it. He could just be making it all up, for all we know. Journalistic malpractice rears its ugly head…again!!!
Posted by: Dooley | December 21, 2008, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Doesnt bother me at all. Obamas mother is an American.
Posted by: Carramea
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His mother had to be at least 19 years old to give the Kenyan-born Barack US citizenship. She was only 18.
Not only is Barack NOT a Natural-Born US citizen, he is NOT a US citizen at all!
He’s a former British subject (born to a Kenyan father) who became an Indonesian citizen and subsequently illegally immigrated to the US.
DEPORT OBAMA NOW!
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
The very FIRST thing to do on Obama’s list:
1. FIRE RAHM,SET PRECEDENCE, KEEP HOUSE CLEAN (it’s called transparency)
Posted by: whynot | December 21, 2008, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Nikki
Im glad you like Palin everyone else I know thinks shes and idiot. Shes a hypocritical pentcostal liar whose husband belonged to a party that wanted to secede from America and was founded by someone that hates America. She was found to be unethical.
Hey she associated with not only Ted Stevens, put Wasilla into debt, stole clothes, was knocked up when she got married, now her daughter is knocked up and doesnt know much period.
I rather vote for Bozo the clown. I have at least 4 friends who are Republicans who did not vote for Mccain because of Palin
Again what is the big deal it is normal for an ex senator especially one that becomes president to talk about the direction they would like to see that senate seat fill.
IF Palin ever becomes president. I will simply leave the country and move to Uruguay where I already had a friend move and Americans are moving to in force
Posted by: Carramea | December 21, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Can we all just wait till the whole truth comes out about any ‘news ‘ reports and stop being petty and making stuff up ? Our country is in serious trouble. And all people seem to do is blab incessantly about every little ‘ news story ‘ Obama can hardly go to the bathroom with it being reported. Enough already !..
Posted by: dian | December 21, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
It is nice to know that BARRY will NEVER divorce Michelle as his religion forbids it. He will have to stone her to death.
Posted by: killerbee | December 21, 2008, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Reaper, I’ll give you a dollar and a chance to dream. With that said, Barack Obama will be the 44th President of the United States of America. If you can’t live with that fact you should consider living outside of the USA. You could also consider living in Alaska with Todd Palin.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
Democrats are scumbags ! Sleazy scumbags.
Posted by: ian twolan | December 21, 2008, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
DIAN, Correct. We should let the American News media look into these allegations and report a “FAIR AND BALANCED” story. I’m sure MSNBC with Olberslob and Tingles Mathew would love to cover up, er, write the true story!
Posted by: killerbee | December 21, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Reaper, not only that, but Obama would have lost any citizenship when he was adopted by Sortero, his mother’s new husband and moved as a young boy to Indonesia and attended Indonesian school (only open to non dual citizenship Indonesian citizens at the time) — where he went under the namer Barry Sortero — yet when he later applied to the Illinois bar, lied and said he was never known by any name other than Barack Obama, and is why he won’t release any college records to Columbia or Harvard, because he applied as a foreign (Indonesian) student — and traveled to Pakistan (at a time when Americans were forbidden there) under an Indonesian Passport — and even after he became a US Senator traveled to Kenya and campaign for his relative and friend, the thug Odinga, under an Indonesian Passport.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
IF Palin ever becomes president. I will simply leave the country and move to Uruguay
Uruguay? Hmm. Costa Rica is closer.
Posted by: kat | December 21, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Are you wacked LIBS listening to yourselves? You want to be very cautious before alleging wrong doings! hahahahaah!!! You’re the same drooling MOB who wanted to crucify some poor guy named SCOOTER who didn’t ANYTHING wrong except work for VP Cheney and Karl Rove. Where was you caution then? HYPOCRITES!!
Posted by: killerbee | December 21, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Killerbee- Why don’t you go for a vacation or relocate to Afghanistan?
Posted by: kat | December 21, 2008, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
I wonder which President of the United States that Obama will become…the side that wins the upcoming civil war or…the one that loses! Whichever, he’ll sure have a lot of American blood on his egregious hands! Some Uniter he is…quite a liar too!
Posted by: Hank G | December 21, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
KAT, Nice try. Those Latin countries have TOUGH imigration laws and would DEPORT you in a matter of weeks.
Posted by: killerbee | December 21, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Funny, how people think that the expenses of the Iraq war are not spent right here in the USA.
Gypsy61—you must study a little more before commenting! But, you being a liberal, I’ll let you go this time!
The money spent on ANY war is spent right here, in the good ole USA. It is put into industries that make the toilet paper used by our service men and women, the uniforms they wear, the tires on their Hummers, the Hummers, the tanks, the beds and sheets and blankets, the cigarettes they smoke, the canteens they drink from, the munitions that they fight with, the shoes they wear! If you don’t get it by now, you never will. And the money is dispersed thoughout every community in the country, by the worker at the shoe factory that buys a loaf of bread at the 7-11, at the car lot where he/she buys their vehicle, at the flower shop, the tailer, the toy store, the gas station, the movie theater, the ice cream store, taxes that pay for the schools in their communities! GET IT YET?
And it also funny that for the past two years, no a word has been said by the Dems in control about any sign of an economic crisis! But they wouldn’t say anything anyway, as they want it to happen so they can hand out TAXPAYER money to those in need and cause our GREAT NATION to become a SOCIALIST SOCIETY, keeping the DEMS IN POWER AND TELLING US WHAT TO EAT, WEAR AND DRINK! The NANCY AND HARRY SHOW SAID THAT THE 700 BILLION WAS NEEDED IMMEDIATELY, but no one knows where the first half of the money has gone, and now THE NANCY AND HARRY SHOW want to OWN the Big 3! SOCIALIST SOCIETY IS WHERE WE ARE HEADING AND NOBODY GIVES A FLYING LEAP! I’m OLD and will be dead soon, and those of you that are 40, I hate to imagine what this country will be like when you are 75, just 35 short years from now!
FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS, DON’T LET THIS COUNTRY BECOME A SOCIALIST SOCIETY. KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF YOUR BUSINESS AND BUSINESSES!
Posted by: Thateldoo | December 21, 2008, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
See, Obama said there was no link between Rahm and Blago, so there wasn’t! Just like he said he had no idea that Rev Wright was racist and that Ayers was a domestic terrorist who bombed police stations.
Will you right wingers quit trying to sully the name of the Messiah like this? The One does not appreciate such blasphemy!
Posted by: andy | December 21, 2008, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Reaper, Barack Obama will be the 44th President of the United States of America.
Posted by: kacman1136
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He’ll be an illegitimate usurper to tens of millions of Americans – he will never be my President.
The military may remove him if the courts and Congress duck their constitutional duty. Not all the generals are transgendered mulattos who speak English as a second language….but, I suspect Barack will work at changing that, first thing.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Why is it that whenever some politician or other has been caught in some shenanigan he or she is treated as if they had contacted leprosy or something.No one wants to admit ever having been exposed to them even from a distance. Of course a person can talk or even have a certain amout of dealings with a person who turns out to be not up to snuff in ethics. That does not mean that the person is a partner in crime. It all depends on what those dealings were!!!
Posted by: Dixie Down | December 21, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Jeff, I’ll give you a dollar to dream for a brain. Barack Obama will be the 44th President of the United States of America. If you can’t live with that fact you should consider living outside of the USA.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Nothing new here. Can’t we just move on? Isn’t that what they used to say in the 90′s?
Posted by: franko w | December 21, 2008, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
So, who are we to believe, CBS News or ABC News? Personally, I don’t believe either one…
Posted by: twinstick | December 21, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Killer Bee- I suggested Afghanistan because it appeared from an earlier statement you made about stoning women that you would feel some cultural affinity there. And all of your diatribes certainly suggest you could use a vacation.
Posted by: kat | December 21, 2008, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
FrankoW—-NO, they said, can’t we all just get along!
Posted by: Thateldoo | December 21, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Ted, right you are again!
Obama definitely became an Indonesian citizen and thus lost any US citizenship, if he ever had it to lose.
Obama also kept his Indonesian citizenship long after he returned to Hawaii (illegally, btw).
When he went to Pakistan in 1981, he could NOT have done so on a US passport. I know this because I was getting my TS/SCI-codeword clearance around that time and Pakistan was one of the countries on the US State Dept’s “NO TRAVEL” list. So, Barack obviously held an Indonesian passport as late as 1981.
I guess he could be deported back to Indonesia….if they would take him.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
How can you say Obama and Blago were not cozy? Blago’s wife Patti was the realtor in the Rezko house and land deal with Obama!
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/826680,CST-NWS-rezkofile111720.stng
The fees Patti Blagojevich derived from the 2002 Rezko land deal follow recent disclosures about other Rezko-related transactions that gave Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) a larger yard and enabled Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) to buy a town house from Rezko for far less than his neighbors paid.
Posted by: Impeach President Elect | December 21, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
The Obama gang goes to Washington. It could be a great soap opera. Movin on up you know. His gang of thugs will be running this country into the ground and everything will be for sale. This is change we can believe in – what a joke.
Posted by: Jack | December 21, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
IF Palin ever becomes president. I will simply leave the country and move to Uruguay
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Great, one more reason to elect president Palin. REally, after four years of failure under Obama American’s will be looking for someone with reformist credentials. If the failure is a complete as I believe it will be then the Republicans can nominate anyone in 2012 and get them elected. Fortunately, the Republicans will nominate a sensible, conservative, intelligent, reformist female with the courage to change Washington – President Palin.
As Michael Reagan said at the Republican convention after listening to Governor Palin’s speech, “I believe I saw my father reborn today”
Posted by: Nikki | December 21, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I guess he (Barack) could be deported back to Indonesia….if they would take him.
Posted by: The Reaper
P.S., “my bad” Ted…..Obama has two anchor babies, so he would likely get a slimey immigration “loiya” and try to state in the states under a family unification waiver.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
I am a lifelong dem but did not vote for BHO because we did not know anything about him and could not find out anything about him, his college records, etc. just tooooooooooooo fishy. His birth has always been a red flag for me. We will never get the facts from msnbc,cbs,abc or cnn because they let this country down by not doing their job during the primary. God bless us all.
Posted by: Linda | December 21, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
IF Palin ever becomes president. I will simply leave the country and move to Uruguay
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I think you should go ahead and move. We want miss you. I just saw a picture of Sarah holding a shotgun. She a beautiful woman and would love to have her as my President. I along with millions more just love the heck out of her. I know some of you are jealous of her, but you should get over it. You are going to hear a lot more about her in the future. Maybe when Obama is impeached they will put her in.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
All you cons who are dying to make a non-existent scandal between Blagojevich and Obama conveniently skip over the jailable offenses committed almost daily in the Bush Administration, expecially Karl Rove, who is still running around free after crime he recently committed of being in contempt of Congressional subpoenas.
I just love the hypocrisy and double standards of the right, which commits ten times worse crimes, but then is dying to manufacture scandal about any Democrat they can pry their nose under the tent to try and implicate.
I’m glad you bozo’s are out of power before you finish taking the whole country down. This country can’t be rid of GW Bush and the Republicans in Congress who got voted out. Can’t happen soon enough, before we all finish going down the toilet.
You Republican slanderers love witch hunts for others, but you want to be exempt from inquiry into your own crimes.
Posted by: JL | December 21, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Great, one more reason to elect president Palin. REally, after four years of failure under Obama American’s will be looking for someone with reformist credentials. If the failure is a complete as I believe it will be then the Republicans can nominate anyone in 2012 and get them elected. Fortunately, the Republicans will nominate a sensible, conservative, intelligent, reformist female with the courage to change Washington – President Palin.
As Michael Reagan said at the Republican convention after listening to Governor Palin’s speech, “I believe I saw my father reborn today”
Posted by: Nikki
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Nikki I love her also. She would be a great President.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
@liberaldrone#233 “Barack Obama will be the 44th President of the United States of America. If you can’t live with that fact you should consider living outside of the USA.”
Why would we who oppose Obama leave? We own the guns and have greater representation in the military than the libs will ever have. If Obama takes us into a depression that causes unrest we will be the victors no matter who is in the white house. Sound a little extreme? Wait until we see 500% inflation or worse like they have seen in Iceland. Why do you think Obama is proposing a national police force that would answer to him? He knows what his policies will do to America. Joe Biden has predicted it as well. We who oppose Obama are the ones who are busy “clinging” to our guns, just in case.
Posted by: morey | December 21, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Any chance that his sources will be “fired” or he will resign should his “reported” sources be wrong. Another Clinton “Hanger-on” who has his job as a result of America’s worst president.
Posted by: henry | December 21, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
All you cons who are dying to make a non-existent scandal between Blagojevich and Obama conveniently skip over the jailable offenses committed almost daily in the Bush Administration, expecially Karl Rove, who is still running around free after crime he recently committed of being in contempt of Congressional subpoenas.
I just love the hypocrisy and double standards of the right, which commits ten times worse crimes, but then is dying to manufacture scandal about any Democrat they can pry their nose under the tent to try and implicate.
I’m glad you bozo’s are out of power before you finish taking the whole country down. This country can’t be rid of GW Bush and the Republicans in Congress who got voted out. Can’t happen soon enough, before we all finish going down the toilet.
You Republican slanderers love witch hunts for others, but you want to be exempt from inquiry into your own crimes.
Posted by: JL
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Poor little JL is mad. He can’t take it when it is thrown at him or his Obammer. Poor boy.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
WOW,Reaper. We don’t want to get on the subject of illegitimate usurper to tens of millions of Americans. Can you say George Bush.
I am also happy to see that you have recognized the abilities of the Gay, Lesbian, Bi-Sexual and Transgender community. We speak many languages and “Hate” isn’t one of them.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
I think this kind of debates are going to last as long as Obama is President. He has a rough road to travel. A very rough road.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
The President elect must be swamped since he has all that time for a 10 hour plane ride to his beachfront vacation home in Hawaii. I wonder if he’s going to smoke any pot while he’s out there?
Posted by: tr88 | December 21, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
JL, I agree with you.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Kacman1136—–I see that the GayLesbian walkout last week shut the country down! Well done!
Posted by: Thateldoo | December 21, 2008, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Do you think Obama keeps his birth certificate in the lock box that Al Gore used to talk about all the time? It sure seems to be some kind of Super Secret.
Maybe Rahm Emanuel is hoping he can hide the prosecutors tapes in there as well. Come to think about it, that lock box might be the answer to all the Democrat scandals.
Of course, some believe the press is in fact the fabled Al Gore lock box. Sure seems to be…
Posted by: morey | December 21, 2008, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
I think it would be better for Blagojevich to be cleaned up by the other possible corrupt case. And after the stock markets regain strength, the difficult situation in Chicago can be explained in the private conversation, promising to change political climate.I guess the person who can solve the education, science is going to lead the a nation to economic prosperity.
Posted by: 상율 한 | December 21, 2008, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm
barefootboy – You have been on here all day and the longer the day rolls? The more red and immature you sound. Why don’t you guys go form some Palin Fan Club somewhere and go hang with like minded people – if people that don’t agree with you are so horrible. You guys can cook up conspiracy theories till the cows come home over there and just laugh and laugh. Think of the fun! I gave up on you back when you said women should be tested to vote. Yup, RED.
Posted by: NotaSpammer | December 21, 2008, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Kacman1136,
Bush is the worst Commander in Chief we’ve ever had…but, his Wall Street cronies are perhaps the best thieves.
Nonetheless, Bush doesn’t have anything to do with Barack being an illegal alien and not qualified to serve in ANY elected office.
I really hope this is resolved by the courts or Congress before: 1. the military has to perform a coup and remove Obama; or, 2. millions of heavily-armed Americans have to do it.
We’ve all seen how much trouble 20,000 insurgents can cause….FYI: there are approx. 20 million deer hunters alone in the US….not very good odds for the Secret Service.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Let’s see. Obama had “distant relationships” with the so called Rev Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers and now this. Coincidence? Sounds like the classical definition of “plausable denyability”. If Obama was a Republican, the Liberals would be screaming for his head by now.
Posted by: Military Vet | December 21, 2008, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
“IF Palin ever becomes president. I will simply leave the country and move to Uruguay”
FYI, those weren’t my words. I was responding to them and forgot the quotation marks. I wonder what Sarah Palin was doing with the shotgun (in reference to her picture). Was she going to shoot some pesky wolves, perhaps? Or maybe she was using that as a bargaining tool with Levi before the RNC. Though after the latest news about Mrs. Johnston’s substance abuse issues and dealings (tee hee hee), she may not feel impatient about any up and coming nuptials for Bristol.
Posted by: kat | December 21, 2008, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Let’s see. Obama had “distant relationships” with the so called Rev Wright, Tony Rezko, Bill Ayers and now this. (Military vet)
How long before we hear “that’s not the Rahm Emanuel I knew”? Followed quickly by a push under the bus.
Posted by: morey | December 21, 2008, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
The Country is falling apart and you folks are focusing on this crap? Next year this time we maybe using Salt for Currency while the Media is ruminating on an ex-governor from Illinois.
Posted by: Patrol | December 21, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Sure, and pigs fly!
Cover-up for certain! :(
No change here!
Posted by: aware2u | December 21, 2008, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Morey, when is the last time you read a paper or watched the news. If I remember correctly the Bush Admin. had a surplus when taking office in 2002. Remember the good old day of the Clinton Administration? I do, and I can’t wait for them to come back under President-Elect Obama. He will elad us back to greatness as a nation.
Are you better off today than you were before the republicans took over? I think not. You are to poor to be a true republican. It’s clear that you lack any type of higher education or social status to be a true republican. Oh, yea you own a gun. You are the type of republican that gets banged at night and then given a few bucks on the night stand. After that a good repiublican would trash you.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
There are corrupt Democrats, and corrupt Republicans. The media has tried to make the Republicans the corrupt party over the last eight years, when in reality, both parties have evil people, and both parties have moral and good people.
Posted by: cbk16 | December 21, 2008, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
What do we expect, everything about Obama is so honest, so pure and so holy, as our savior, or the last angel standing? He is above all mankind.
Posted by: LDVUONG | December 21, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Oh here we go again with the BarackHussein’X'SoetoroObama is a secret MuslimIslamofascistCommieSocialistMarxist who had gay sex with Larry Sinclair, murdered his grandmother (and potentially anyone else who got/gets in his way) and was raised by pedophiles in the mountains of Afghanistan where he trained with Talibani terrorists and was educated in radical madrasas in Isotonic Muslimness to overthrow America, kill the men, enslave the women, and eat the children.
People – grow the F&*% up. Seriously.
Posted by: Phillybits | December 21, 2008, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Reaper, we fianlly agree on something and that’s George Bush.
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
PEBO is a Chicago politician who has participated in palm-greasing thuggery!
He is also an Alinsky graduate in community organizing!
And a guy in search of an identity. He is neither black nor white, and his parents basically abandoned him!
Manipulative rhetoric is his game, and the pseudo intellectuals have bought his blather!
Can he continue the con? We will soon see!
Posted by: aware2u | December 21, 2008, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
barefootboy – You have been on here all day and the longer the day rolls? The more red and immature you sound. Why don’t you guys go form some Palin Fan Club somewhere and go hang with like minded people – if people that don’t agree with you are so horrible. You guys can cook up conspiracy theories till the cows come home over there and just laugh and laugh. Think of the fun! I gave up on you back when you said women should be tested to vote. Yup, RED.
Posted by: NotaSpammer
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We are already forming one. I think we are going to have a lot of people in it and you libbers will be surprised how popular she really is. You little Kenyan born Hussain Obammer will be toast in time. It is already falling apart for him and people are beginning to realize they made a mistake by voting for him.
Posted by: barefootboy | December 21, 2008, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
This is why the Feds sprang the trap too soon – to keep the Obama camp from being incriminated further. It would have been messy to have the president-elect doing the perp walk on inauguration day.
Posted by: Tom Schroer | December 21, 2008, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Impeach Obama now! This is Chicago politics as usual. Obama is just as corrupt as Blago!
Posted by: Bubba | December 21, 2008, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Total bullshtt. ABC news is the official obama bandaid. They are more disgusting than MSNBC. Rahm Emanuel, and Barack Barry Obama/Soetoro are twice as bad as Blago, and that is being generous.
Case in point, why has Obama elected to have his vault birth certificate, college aqdmissions records, and Pakistani passport sealed? What is this, communist Cuba?
What happened to his pledge of open and transparent administration, and government? Must have gotten tossed along with his pledge to accept public financing.
Obama = cheating liar.
Posted by: Badger | December 21, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
kacman1136, I have an undergraduate degree in information technology and master degrees in business administration and marketing. I will receive my JD in two years if I continue at my current pace. Am I better off now, since Bush took office? Absolutely, it does not matter who is in the white house or what their policies are. I will be successful because I am willing to work harder than those who might compete for my job. I am also wise enough to live in Texas, a state that does not punish success. Am I poor? No, I have a house that is fully paid for and enough money to provide for my family, my church, and my charities. Even if Obama is as bad as I suspect he will be for America, I will be just fine.
As to the Clinton administration; I believe it is you who is confused. Do you not remember the first two years of the Clinton administration? His approval ratings were about where Bush’s are today. It was the Republican take over in 1994 that corrected the excesses of the Clinton years. It was the Republicans that blocked the so called Clinton stimulus package that would have added billions to the debt. Republicans also altered the spending plans that Clinton campaigned on.
It was Clinton, through Robert Rubin, that gave us the mortgage based derivitives that have thrown us into the current economic crisis we face. And yes, it was Republicans that tried to take action to limit the GSE’s. They held hearings in 2002 and again in 2005 to raise the alarm over the pending risks associated with these frauds. Who opposed any changes that could have averted this mess? Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters, and a host of other Democrats all opposed reigning in these programs because they used them to funnel cash to their supporters.
Seriously, if you believe the things you have written then you should not vote. You are not informed enough to draw reasoned conclusions.
Posted by: morey | December 21, 2008, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Well Said Stephen.
Guilt by association is not going to cut it for me. Unless there is solid proof that Obama conspired with Blago to sell his senate seat, I am not convinced that he was directly involved.
Posted by: Andrew | December 21, 2008, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Obama’s birth certificate was certified as valid. Newspapers of the day of Obama’s birth listed his birth as such. He is a citizen Jus Soli (by the law of the land) and Jus Sanguinis (by the law of blood), so there’s no contest on where he was born.
As for Obama’s connections to Blagojevich, the prosecutor would have charged Obama a while ago if there was any evidence of corruption. Fitzgerald hasn’t done this, so this theory of corruptions falls apart.
As for everyone saying he lied, go ahead and list the lies and back them up with news sources and NOT editorials or opinion pieces (There are only 8 being accepted: NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, ABC, BBC, NPR, VOA)
Anyone who fails to do this is a true bigot looking for any excuse to keep a fight going. Learn to stuff it; your last presidential choice killed our country. It’s now time for us to take our country back from the hands of the scum bigoted populace.
Posted by: Irrelevant | December 21, 2008, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
I don’t know why anyone’s sweating any of this. Remember, they’re Democrats for pete’s sake. When questioned about this mess, they’ll just lose their memory like lil’ Georgie Lyinopolus did.
Posted by: KevinFitz | December 21, 2008, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
None are so blind than those that refuse to see. None are so enslaved as those that refuse to be free. Remember, in the valley of the blind the one-eyed man is King!
Posted by: Hank G | December 21, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
For all of you who are listing off all the other things that Obama is “involved” in, may I remind you that Obama was chosen to clean up the mess George Bush left behind. You guys are just sore that McCain didn’t get chosen for the job. The elections over, let it go, get over it. If you don’t show at least some faith that Obama can change the direction of the U.S. then you have completely lost faith in America. At this point in time, when many people are suffering, we need faith. America has just about hit rock bottom and it cannot possibly get any worse under Obama. He WILL improve this country in more ways than one.
Posted by: Andrew | December 21, 2008, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Uh yeah – Obama’s team review of Obama’s teams actions and criminal activity? What about someone that is not up to their elbows in blood here having a say or doing a review? Give me a break.
Posted by: Robert NYC | December 21, 2008, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Oh really? Who verified Obama was born in this country? A certificate of live birth issued in Hawaii doesnt mean that the individual was born in Hawaii, or the U.S. I belive youve been bamboozled by the Obama media.
Why has Obama had his long form vault birth certificate sealed? Why wont Mr Transparency allow it to be viewed?
Where are his college admissions records? How did he travel to Pakistan at a time when Americans were forbidden to travel there? Whwere is his Pakistani passport?
This is the crime of the century, and what is worse, most people know it and wont do anything about it, or know it, and cant do anything about it.The rest are a bunch of gullible media hollywood brainwashed lemmings
Posted by: Badger | December 21, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Can you feel the love of the main street media. All the fun and downplaying such serious allegations against Emmanuel. If the calls were done by republicans their would be outrage and witch hunts. Wow I feel I am living on another planet where everything is just one big love fest.
Posted by: Josh | December 21, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
People who have convinced themselves that THE ONE and his crowd have nothing to do with the present situation will have to provide a lot of cover for their champion this next year. He will pretty much continue what the Bush administration has started, both with regard to the war and with the economy. It may not seem this to be so, because of the smoke screeen, but he really has little control of these situations. If things are looking well a year from now, he may get to go with his agenda.
Posted by: John Schuh | December 21, 2008, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
I’m from Chicago.
Chicago is to politics as Al Qaeda is to terrorism.
They all ride dirty.
Posted by: Dave | December 21, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Why do conservatives call Obama the one or Messiah? These are the same people who called Bush a conservative who would cut spending, reduced government and balance the budget. In hindsight these folks seem clueless.
The greatest risk, going forward, are conservative extremist who would rather see America collapse than to see Obama succeed. It only take a few people who hate America to add difficultly to having a economic turn around after suffering the the greatest recession seen the Great Depression because of failed conservative deregulation, corruption and creed.
Posted by: Michael Johnson | December 21, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Are the whiners still whining?
All while Obama keeps winning………Go back to your Ouiji boards and chant a little harder for negativity. Time after time when expecting something such as “smoking gun” from Obama, IT JUST HASN’T HAPPENED, has it? Ha Ha!
1/21/09 – Change is taking Place
Posted by: Denmark Vessey | December 21, 2008, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm
Please, George, go away. You’re not a journalist…and, you are boring.
Posted by: Helenb1 | December 21, 2008, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Oh, so now we should leave Obama alone huh? After all the critism and condemnation on ANYTHING Bush siad or did!! Sorry Steven , it ‘s not going to work that way pal!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need an independent investigation and Congress needs to address “THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE ALLEGATIONS”. That’s what we need you mealy mouth little punk.
Posted by: samuel beeler | December 21, 2008, 7:50 pm 7:50 pm
George, you actually BEILEVE Obama? Come now, you’ve hung around Democrats for how long, and you actually BELIEVE people like this? You’ve got to be kidding.
Posted by: mark | December 21, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was born in the Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya on or about 4 Aug 1961.
His father was a British subject (Kenyan) and could not confer US citizenship on Barack Jr.
His mother was a US citizen, but was only 18 years old at the time of his birth. Under US law until the mid-’80s, she would have had to have been at least 19 years old for Barack to claim US citizenship from his mother.
So, Mr. Obama is not even a US citizen, let alone a “Natural Born US Citizen” as is required to serve as President.
Obama is a former British subject who became an Indonesian citizen and subsequently illegally immigrated to the United States.
Barack is NOT a US citizen and never was.
DEPORT BARACK NOW!!!
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Owned, losers.
Coming up next: whining neoconservative agents complaining that factcheck.org is a liberal conspiracy.
Those of you who can’t accept the truth need to leave this country before you taint it with more lies.
Posted by: Irrelevant | December 21, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
After all an in depth investigation was done by the perpetrators so obviously there is nothing to see here.
Change is coming all right. Since it became apparent that a totaly unqualified rube who was educated and influenced by the Hate America coalition was going to become president the economy has collapsed.
As of today the country’s poor people are for the most part fat. As in the USSR soon our poor will be skinny. Then they will be dead.
I’m sure an internal Obama investigation will clear all the usual suspects. Change you won’t believe will soon be upon us. Pass the Kol Aid.
Posted by: Jeff Bergman | December 21, 2008, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Such sore losers …… just remember ……YES WE DID!!! Give him a chance for God’s sake before you decide he is anything but what he says he is!!
Posted by: etmel | December 21, 2008, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Such sore losers …… just remember ……YES WE DID!!! Give him a chance for God’s sake before you decide he is anything but what he says he is!!
Posted by: etmel | December 21, 2008, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Just listen to the poor, poor, woe is he Reaper just pull out every thin strand of hair on his head in digust with Obama’s birth certificate.
NOTE TO BRAIN: Whining didn’t work before, during or after the election and won’t have any effective results.
1/21/09 – CHANGE TAKES PLACE
Posted by: Denmark Vessey | December 21, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Michael Johnson : “The One” is in reference to Obama’s cult like following. Pick your blob, and look at the way the Obamabots respond to any mention of Obama’s complete lack of qualifications, his blatant corruption or how his “change” is just partisan politics as usual.
And let’s also not forget how much liberals must, according to your logic, have hated this country for the past 8 years.. as you’ve constantly worked against the best interest of the US. Sorry just because your MESSIAH managed to con enough people into voting for him, doesn’t mean the other half of the country has to support him. And please, the problem isn’t regulations or lack of them.. the problem is people taking loans they can’t pay. Period. But pointing out that individual citizens are idiots isn’t a good way to win votes, so no political figure will touch it.
Posted by: howwouldiknow | December 21, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Did one of the Obama truthers remove my comment?
Change you won’t believe is already here.
Posted by: Jeff Bergman | December 21, 2008, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
Irrelevant,
The link to Factcheck (another Annenberg corp like the one Barack was chairman of) shows a scanned copy of an altered 2007/2008 “Certification of Live Birth” (forgery, btw) isn’t proof of anything…except criminality.
Obama needs to post a “Certificate of Live Birth” from 1961, aka an actual 1961 birth certificate.
Here are the two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT documents, side-by-side, so you’ll know what I and millions of Americans are talking about.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
Barack won’t release an actual 1961 birth certificate.
Why not?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
It’s becoming very obvious that some moonbats are not fully understanding that a house divided cannot stand! But Obama should. After all…he’s the NEW faux Lincoln replete with Greek clumns, and will probably hail another civil war onto us as some of the change we won’t believe.
Posted by: Hank G | December 21, 2008, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
How can you say Obama and Blago were not cozy? Blago’s wife Patti was the realtor in the Rezko house and land deal with Obama!
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/826680,CST-NWS-rezkofile111720.stng
The fees Patti Blagojevich derived from the 2002 Rezko land deal follow recent disclosures about other Rezko-related transactions that gave Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) a larger yard and enabled Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) to buy a town house from Rezko for far less than his neighbors paid.
Posted by: Impeach President Elect | Dec 21, 2008 5:39:39 PM
There is absolutely nothing in this article that says Patti Blagojevich had anything to do with PE Obama’s purchase of his Chicago home. I should have known that claims that she was involved was a lack of reading comprehension skills or intentional misrepresentation on your part and the part of other people making this bogus claim.
Posted by: bailey | December 21, 2008, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
There is proof that Emanuell called Blagovitch 4 times about appointments to Obama’s Senate seat. Hillary is now trying to give Kennedy her Senate seat for help with her 6 million dollars in campain debts!!
Posted by: yes he did | December 21, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
You have to remember that George was Clinton’s press secretary. He is in the tank for Obama and will say anything to make Obama look good. This is a guy who cannot just report the facts but he can only contribute to the spin. He actually should be removed form ABC’s This Week for being biased. You remember him getting busted for not having a drivers license. I wish Obama would do well, but unfortunately he is now starting to show his true colors. This nation needs real leaders and I sure do not see any at this point in time.
Posted by: savetheusa | December 21, 2008, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
January 20th, 2009
The End of an Error
Say what you will. Nothing could be worse than the last 5 years.
Posted by: HappyDem | December 21, 2008, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure…. lol
Posted by: tim | December 21, 2008, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
saying “nothing could be worse” is ridiculous. it can ALWAYS be worse. im afraid you democrats are going to be eating those words shortly. i hope im wrong.
Posted by: tim | December 21, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Those of you hanging onto the “he’s not a citizen” mantra obviously have internet access so you might want to put the net to good use and look up the law regarding U.S. citizenship. Here’s a hint: it’s called the Immigration and Nationality Act; check out section 301.
Those of you hoping Obama will fail. Aren’t you putting your ideology before the welfare of your country? Isn’t that the same thing most of you complain about politicians doing?
Posted by: MizFW | December 21, 2008, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
If the courts or the Congress won’t disqualify this illegal alien, then the military will have to remove Obama from office.
Ultimately, the 100+ million gun-owners in America are the final deterrent to Obama’s criminal hoax. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.
Demand that Barack Obama either produce a genuine 1961 birth certificate or that he leave the United States, immediately.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
I think the only reason that Bush supporters are jumping on this particular bandwagon is to divert attention from the spectacular economic meltdown that Bush and his prep school friends have presided over. New Orleans was the result of one such appointment. The failure of oversight of the financial Ponzi scheme that our housing market turned into is another. Let’s give blame where blame is due. These incompetents would have been tarred and feathered in another age.
Posted by: jumping | December 21, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Obama will absolve Emanuell of any wrong doing since he is “The Messia”
I wonder if picking Kennedy for Hillary’s seat has anything to do with her 6 million campain debts? I’m sure Barack will absolve her of any transgressions too…
Posted by: yes he did | December 21, 2008, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
well, i for one am definately not hoping obama fails. (very broad term for a presidency) im an american!! we are all on the same team here. its just that, this country is, and has been, heading down a downward spiral on MANY issues. and it hasnt all been bush’s fault. it hasnt all been one party or the other. i just see ABSOLUTELY no true leaders with common sense in the democratic party. obama can have all the charm and charisma he wants, but i dont see true leadership from him. not to mention, i believe i have a whole different set of values than him.
Posted by: tim | December 21, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
well, i for one am definately not hoping obama fails. (very broad term for a presidency) im an american!! we are all on the same team here. its just that, this country is, and has been, heading down a downward spiral on MANY issues. and it hasnt all been bush’s fault. it hasnt all been one party or the other. i just see ABSOLUTELY no true leaders with common sense in the democratic party. obama can have all the charm and charisma he wants, but i dont see true leadership from him. not to mention, i believe i have a whole different set of values than him.
Posted by: tim | December 21, 2008, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
****jumping*****
Nice try, every one knows that the Dems caused the whole meltdown!! You wont be able to blame Bush forever… truth has a way of surfacing…..
Posted by: yes he did | December 21, 2008, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
MizFW,
To qualify for the office of President, Obama must be a “natural-born citizen”, not merely naturalized.
Clearly, he is not a natural-born citizen.
Further, there’s no evidence he’s ever been a US citizen at all.
1. He was born in Kenya.
2. Neither of his parents could confer US citizenship upon him
3. He was never naturalized
Obama is a former British subject (at birth), who became an Indonesian citizen at approx age 5 and subsequently immigrated (illegally) to the US at approx age 10.
He is not a US citizen and never has been.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
yes he did…
let the dems have their little happy time here now, cmon… lol they can sit and blame bush for EVERYTHING that has gone wrong in the world for the last years, but it all really dosent matter. they have their dream team assembled now, and it should all be perfect in 8 years time… i mean, aside from getting the fillibuster proof congress, they couldnt have asked for more. a liberal president, with a bunch of liberals controlling congress. NO MORE EXCUSES FOR THEM. its their time to change the world for the better. and it sure is getting off to a great start, and he hasnt even been sworn in yet.
Posted by: tim | December 21, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Remember, atleast 60 million citizens in the USA dont believe in the whole Obama socialist fantsy!! They are ready to Attack just like the Democrats have done to Bush for the last 8 years. Pay back is in play…..
Posted by: not so | December 21, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
It was no calls. Wait, wait it was only one call to discuss the weather…. yeahhhhhh, that’s the ticket!
Posted by: Bull Hockey | December 21, 2008, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
CALL, EMAIL & WRITE CONGRESS!!!
Demand that Barack Obama either produce a genuine 1961 birth certificate or that he be deported from the United States, immediately.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
***tim**
I agree, the Dems cant hide any more, They will only have themselvs to blame now! I give it 6 months and they’ll be attacking eachother (and Obama). Just give them enough rope and you know what will happen….
Posted by: yes he did | December 21, 2008, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Reaper, you need help. I hope Homeland Secuirty finds you and puts you in jail. You are one sick individual
Posted by: kacman1136 | December 21, 2008, 8:45 pm 8:45 pm
I don’t know if it’s true like some of you say that Mr. Obama is not a natural US citizen, but if it is true, we are also exporting the US Presidency job oversea, like the other jobs.
Posted by: young_voter | December 21, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
You should observe more carefully who posted what. You will find nothing in my post anywhere remotely close to the topic of Natural Born Citizenry.
Mine dealt with the political atmosphere Obama was nurtured by in Illinois and Chicago.
Posted by: Sane American | December 21, 2008, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
This whole entire election is just another third world-type comedy after another. First we elect a complete liar, he then chooses some of the most despicable people for his cabinet positions and now GEORGE another clintonite sleeze ball tries to report things as legitimate news…
Start the impeachement proceedings already so we can he the ground running after 01/20/09. Lets stop this non-sense before Nobama’s “RULE” begins…
Posted by: Common Sense | December 21, 2008, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Oh gee, why can’t Obama be more transparent and open, as promised, answer these Blago questions ?
Is his teleprompter broken ?
Something more to hide ? No And why doesn’t the media/ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,FOX and I use the term very loosely, interview Obama and ask him the questions that they pose to the public ?
citizenship lawsuit questions ever answered or interviews, now no questions answered about Blago or interviews by the media. Their goal is to keep Americans stirred up and confused with a new issue every day, but no one is talking. That way no one is ever held accountable.
Where is that over the hill reporter or should I call him narrator, Chuckles Glibson or Miss Sour Grapes Cowlic and never forget the legend in his own mind Keith Oldermano’really ? ABC’s news front page says “MOST TRUSTED” LOL LOL Michelle better watch her step or Barry will disassociate himself from her and under the bus she goes.
He does that so well, and then claims convenient memory loss or has no knowledge of anything.
Doesn’t sound like experience to me. Sorry, I forgot, he is busy getting the White House Mafia lined up. AND LET US NOT FORGET THE ALL IMPORTANT SELECTION OF A DOG. YAWN
So in light of all the fun that ABC is having by keeping everyone in an uproar…
I wrote a little Christmas tune for you to sing to the tune of Silver Bells:
City sidewalks. closing sidewalks
Dressed in Mafia style
In the air a feeling of Bailouts
Rezko’s laughing, Blago’s gassing
Meeting more obstacles
And on every street corner you’ll hear
YES WE CAN…YES WE CAN
SPREAD THE WEALTH IN MY CITY
DING A LINGS…FEEL MY STING
SOON IT WILL BE PAY UP DAY
Strings of Lawsuits
From some old Coots
Make us see lots of Red
As the SCOTUS rush
Home with their payoffs
Feel the bills crunch
Can’t afford Lunch
This is Barry’s Big Plan
But above all the Hunger, you’ll hear
YES WE CAN…YES WE CAN
SPREAD THE WEALTH IN MY CITY
DING A LINGS…FEEL MY STING
SOON IT WILL BE PAY UP DAY
SOOON IT WILL BE PAYUP DAAAAYYYY
Posted by: lotzahair | December 21, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
There was a time when I would have believed stories like this one.
Posted by: Jack | December 21, 2008, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
As someone who lives in Chicago and follows politics closely, those not familiar with the ongoing Blagojevich mess should know that he has for a couple years now been widely avoided by most Democrats. His approval rating at one point was in single digits and has been regarded as a crook by nearly everyone. Who was his #1 enemy? A Republican? Nope. His sworn enemy — and anyone in Illinois knows this — is Democratic House Majority Leader Mike Madigan. Obama has never had close ties to Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel has also distanced himself since taking over Blagojevich’s old house seat.
The fact is that Blagojevich is so alienated from the Democratic party that his downfall isn’t the tiniest bit of good news for the GOP in state. If Attorney General Lisa Madigan (Mike’s daughter) decides to run, she’ll win easily, regardless of who the GOP puts up. The Dems have kept their distance the past couple of years from Blagojevich, and it is his intense political isolation that will do him in. And it is his isolation that has kept it from doing any real harm to the Dems. They’ve done more to oppose him than the GOP. Personally, everyone I know, Democratic or Republican, is ecstatic he got caught. He is just vile. The only reason he was reelected was 1) he had an inconceivably vast campaign war chest in the last election and 2) the GOP is in such disarray that they couldn’t put up anyone that they prefered to Blagojevich. But it does look like Lisa Madigan is pretty much a cinch to be the next governor. Unless Pat Quinn can build up a base while servicing as acting governor.
Posted by: Robert | December 21, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Wait ’til Rahm hears the wiretaps. When he’s under oath, he might want to revise his recollection.
Posted by: Patrick C. | December 21, 2008, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
“Unless the press has any additional information to the contrary, leave Obama alone on the issue of Blago. The Precidency is busy as it is already. Let’s focus on how to save this country from the Bush mess. There is no time for speculation…just report facts.”
OOOOOObot?
Please leave Britney, I mean Obama alone!!
Posted by: politicsIsdirty | December 21, 2008, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Total bullshtt. ABC news is the official obama bandaid. They are more disgusting than MSNBC. Rahm Emanuel, and Barack Barry Obama/Soetoro are twice as bad as Blago, and that is being generous.
Case in point, why has Obama elected to have his vault birth certificate, college aqdmissions records, and Pakistani passport sealed? What is this, communist Cuba?
What happened to his pledge of open and transparent administration, and government? Must have gotten tossed along with his pledge to accept public financing.
Obama = cheating liar.
Posted by: Badger | December 21, 2008, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
To all of you good folks out there who are concerned about how this scandal might affect our President-elect: please rest assured that those of us who supported George W. Bush as our president will treat incoming President Obama with the same dignity and respect with which you treated Pres. George W. Bush for the past eight years.
Posted by: Patrick C. | December 21, 2008, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
We’ve got the greatest thief in human history in the Whitehouse right now.
& unless Congress or SCOTUS acts before Jan. 20th, we’re gonna have an illegal alien from Indonesia as Commander in Chief.
Two options will remain:
1. Military coup (my preference)
2. Insurgency/Revolution by millions of armed Americans
Keep buying ammo!!!
Get to the range now and check your zeros.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
If stupid Blago had anything on President-elect Obama or Rahm Emanuel, he would have said something damaging!!!
And for all the uncouth that believe in that birth certificate crap!!!!
January 20th, 2009 will be here before you know it!!!!
President Barack Hussein Obama!!!!
GET USED TO IT!!!!
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | December 21, 2008, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
This is not newsworthy; Everyone knows politicians lie – where’s the news here?
We haven’t had contact – we have had contact – we might have had some contact – contact was limited – communications were brief blah blah — now I know why they call him Oblahblah.
Posted by: none | December 21, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Robert, with all due respect sir, you are dreaming. Blago is going to roll over on anyone he can to reduce his time in federal prison. That means rolling over on Obama, Emanuel and anyone else who is connected to this conspiracy. And Robert, in case you didn’t pass your Bar Exam, any overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy can get one charged and maybe convicted. This includes conversations caught on the federal wiretaps which can be construed by a federal jury as bargaining or haggling. It all depends on how far Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald wants to take the case. And don’t hope that Obama fires him after the Inauguration. There is not a chance that Obama would cut his own throat politically like that. We are going to be treated to a good old, down home conspiracy and bribery trial like we haven’t seen since Democrat Illinois Governor Otto Kerner was sent away thirty years ago. Goody.
Posted by: Patrick C. | December 21, 2008, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Lets see Obama is not citizen of the USA, is a citizen of Indonesia and A British Citzen and was Born in Kenya who is illegaly a incoming president who is as a Chicago street thug who stole his senate seat with itimidation and ACORN the Democrat Department of voter fraud group who is up to his eye balls with Blago’s corruption and is under investigation for Rezkos kinky land deal financed by the Iraqi who fled the USA after being indicted, HM! Rahm the vicous knew the Senate seat was for sale as did Obama, the Gal tried to give Blago 750k but Jessie Jr offered a one mil! Obama will be the worst President and the shortest termed in the history of USA 6-10 months! Everyone on his cabinet are left of Karl Marx and most are criminal including the soon to indicted NM Gov Richarson! Jan 9th the supremes are going to look at another law suite on Obamas Ability to be pres because he is not a US citizen and in Havard before the closed his files was listed as a Foreign student!!! It looks like the Clintons third Term, knowing the Clintons Obama will short lived she would be third in line to be president!!! You all know what happens to the enemies of the Don of Corruption the Clintons! If it got to that point, I think Pelosi would give that possistion or be eliminated by the Clintons GOON squad!! Didn’t Rahm run Clinton opossition research center? Hm yes he did at one point in time!!!
Posted by: NObama | December 21, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
You Obama lovers know nothing about Chicago politics. It is nothing but a BIG political machine that will do ANYTHING to gain and maintain power at the cost of anyone or this Country. Democrats in Chicago, or anywhere else for that matter, don’t care about anything but power. For Democrats it’s party FIRST, country SECOND!
Obama ONLY got elected because he can give a great speech and he is black. Unfortunately, we have TOO many fools who voted for him, just to be a part of history being made, rather than choosing who had more experience and would be a WISER pick for President.
Unfortunately, we will all find out down the road and you idiots who voted for Obama will say, ooops, I guess we WERE wrong! Sad!
Posted by: MaverickCoast | December 21, 2008, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Leave Obama alone? Yeah right.. when were those words ever spoken by the left about President Bush? The left has no historical basis to ask anyone to leave the new President alone.
Posted by: Ted | December 21, 2008, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
We all know that the “Chicago Way” extends to Obama – through Rezko, Daley, and Blago. Now that the media is over their love affair, maybe they will actually cover this fraud – just maybe.
Posted by: Joe Jones | December 21, 2008, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
sisterdearest09,
Why has Obama refused to produce a 1961 birth certificate?
If he has one, why not show it to us?
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Remember Remember the 5th of November
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot
For I see no Reason
That the Gunpowder Treason
Should Ever be Forgot!!
***************************************
It’s Watergate meets Goodfellas. Simple as that. And be assured your luxury suites will be ready for you all at the new re-education camps if you disagree.
We all learned from W and company that DISSENT = TERRORISM. What does that make you????? Gitmo was just practice for the ones in the states during the new depression era riots (See Greece, Iceland, et al). Can’t you feel the “Change” in the air.
FREE AMERICA. VOTE THIRD PARTY!
Posted by: Guy Fawkes | December 21, 2008, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
This is like Bizaro world. If this was Nixon, all the watchdog press would be all over it. 40 years from Watergate and the press can’t do enogh to protect all their own (anyone with a D after their name). I would think if they looked hard enough, they could find a direct link to Bush.
Posted by: 3D | December 21, 2008, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Re: “leaving Obama alone”, I agree with Ted – we should treat Obama the same way the left treated Bush – simply put, the reverse golden rule.
Since Obama has never had a real job nor has he managed a city, state, business or military unit, we will have a lot of fun with him – his stumbles will be frequent, and, he still has massive baggage that will cycle periodically. This will be a fun four years – Carter Version 2.
Posted by: Joe Jones | December 21, 2008, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
NObama,
The SCOTUS won’t touch this with a 10′ pole, because they know if they do it’s a no-brainer…no way is Barack a “natural-born citizen”. Worse yet, Barack isn’t even a US citizen at all – and he never has been – he’d have to be deported!…despite his two anchor babies.
Fortunately, the military is sworn to uphold the Constitution, and I know there are still countless field grade and flag officers who take this stuff seriously. They may act to carry out a coup to remove Obama from office. Certainly, neither the Secret Service or the Park Police would be able to stop them.
Lastly, the US alone stands as a beacon of liberty where the individual citizen has the God-given right to keep and bear arms.
As then California Governor, Ronaldus Maximus – the Greatest President Ever – said, “The right of the people to keep and bear arms is the last deterrent to a potentially tyrannical government.”
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Starting with Clinton then Bush and all the sessions of Congress during their terms have all overspent and put this country at risk. Both parties are at fault, they have failed the American people in their duty.
Either get spending under control or this mess will never end.
Cook County, Chicago, Illinois and the country gets what they deserve, that is what the majority voted for. Now you have to suck it up till the next election.
Posted by: K Man | December 21, 2008, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
I am a disillusioned liberal – not only is Obama making conservative cabinet picks and having a radical, right-wing pastor give the prayer, his scandals are starting to surface.
I though the media would continue to whitewash his scandals – Ayers, Rezko, Wright, Blago, Hamas Connections. I guess they are starting to wake up.
Liberal friends,
Put more pressure on the left-wing media to stay in their box – this is not right!
Posted by: Suzy | December 21, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
The Reaper:
He has but you and others refuse to believe!!!
Just like people refuse to believe there is a GOD and associate Jesus as GOD!!!!!
There is only one, true GOD and Jesus is his son!!!!
BELIEVE WHAT EVER YOU LIKE!!!
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | December 21, 2008, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
I intend to treat Obama with the same ammount of respect that President Bush was treated with by the Dems, the media, and the left. NONE!!!!
Thats how much respect Obama/Biden will recieve from the 60 million who did’nt vote for him…. NONE!!!
Posted by: ynot | December 21, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
The sentence Obama has given Emanuel in as payment-in-kind will be far more damning than calling the governor of Illinois to thank Blago for those wonder comments about the new commander in chief. The remainder of the Americans who voted for big O will say the same thing following the new troop escalations. The incoming administration can’t play spades. Obama has gone red. And if anyone has anything good to say about Chicago politics, hasn’t lived in Chicago. :-)
Posted by: MrScott | December 21, 2008, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
evidently President Bush messed things up so badly that YOmama couldn’t vacation for two weeks in a million dollar home in hawaii
Posted by: blagobioch | December 21, 2008, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm
The pro-Obama drones would continue to claim the vast right wing kook fringe was responsible for the conspiracy if Obama was caught red handed on video giving cash to Blago for his Senate choice. Which is what I believe was about to happen when Fitzgerald pulled the plug on the case. The American people are not as stupid as the politicians, their rabid running dog lackeys and media want us to be. This situation stinks all the way around!
Posted by: Al J | December 21, 2008, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Blago,
I take exception to your “pro-Obama drone” comment. We liberals are really smart and know more than joe sixpack conservatives. Most of us have some type of law, environmental, or psychology degree. We may not have real jobs, but we are smart – not drones.
Obama has a law degree and has not held a real job – but he is smart and will learn how to become a President.
Posted by: Suzy | December 21, 2008, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
just the one then? must been a reeeel dooozie
Posted by: deefmo | December 21, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
trust the media on this one? yeah right.
Posted by: jack | December 21, 2008, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
“Only appreciation” wasn’t the key pay to play codespeak it was blagobioch’s 15-25 million nonprofit donation suggested to team YOmama
Posted by: blagobioch | December 21, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
sisterdearest09,
No. Barack has not produced a 1961 birth certificate. He’s produced an entirely different Hawaiian document, which experts say is a forgery.
Here’s a side-by-side comparison of Barack’s “Certification” with an actual Certificate:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
BTW, how many copies of The Watchtower did you hand out today?
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
To all of you imbeciles who elected Obama, we conservatives will never get used to it, just as you never got used to and tried to destroy GWB and cost us the war. Thank God GW stayed the course and liberated Iraq and Afganistan, not the liberal democrats (i.e. Reid-”the war is lost”). Can anyone say ‘treason’. Obama will, sooner or later, be caught in his pack of lies (maybe even the fake birth certificate) and the media will certainly try to cover for him. But it will catch up. Until then, ‘is’ means ‘is’ and a liar is a liar, no matter how loud you say he is not. I only pray this country is not hit again while Obama is busy covering his a**.
Posted by: Exlib | December 21, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Reaper,
It doesn’t matter if Obama was born in Kenya (which all facts point to) – the media, Congress, and Supreme Court won’t touch this issue. And for good reason – we finally have a liberal/socialist President who will implement wealth transfer on a grand scale.
We need to be more like Europe and Cuba – wealth should be equally distributed regardless of our job or amount of taxes paid.
Posted by: Suzy | December 21, 2008, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Of course Obama’s people talked to the Governor about who he would pick to succeed Obama in the Senate seat. It would be stupid and irresponsible not to. Unfortunately, trying to lie about it was even more stupid and irresponsible.
Meet the new boss. Same as Bill Clinton.
Posted by: ragnar30066 | December 21, 2008, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Hey, Suzy
I’m a conservative with three college degrees (one undergrad and two post grad) and taught at a major big ten university. Your ‘Joe Sixpack’ statement is not only condescending but blatantly shows the ignorance (notice I didn’t say stupidity…there is a difference, if you do not know)of the liberal name-calling left. They don’t want to argue the facts, they can’t. Also, calling someone ‘ignorant’ is not name calling. I didn’t call her ‘stupid’…that would have been. Ignorance is objective, stupidity is subjective.
Posted by: Exlib | December 21, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
I thought Barack Hamas Obama was born Barry and not Barack (aka the mythical horse which mohammad rode on) so what gives with his fake birth cert
Posted by: blagobioch | December 21, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
“Can we please get back to substantive, properly sourced and intelligently edited news?” Young lady, the old newspaper axiom that a dog biting a man is not news but a man biting a dog is news is imminently correct. Therefore you should remember that “the news” is written by people SEEKING the insane, the jolting, the bizarre. Today’s journalists and talking heads have largely never had a job and know nothings of the real world. They have no morality or integrity. They are not governed by any ethical principles and they have no shame. There is no series of checks and balances governing them. Please realize that all News is specious drivel, all of it.
Posted by: DAK | December 21, 2008, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
Young democrats, as yet unborn, don’t seem to remember the Nixon tapes. It took them a while to get out. The same is true of the Tripp Tapes and the “blue jiz dress”. Give it a few months, when trials are under way, the heat cranks up in Fed court and you hear what tapes Feds let them play (or the MSM will investigate). Then and only then, make up your minds about Rahm and BO. If they’re clean, fine. Most of the recent syntax, spelling and election pictures of recent Obambots lead one to conclude, you jumped to conclusions about the Bammer. Maybe you should wait until the dust settles before making up your mind this time.
Posted by: Texas Independent | December 21, 2008, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
What’s the betting line on how long Obama will be pres? 60-90 days 10-1, 90-120 days 5-1, 120-180 days 9/5, 180-240 days even money he will be gone! Omama the non USA citizen foriegn born the street thug that took money from every terror group(1 billion dollars plus) in the world including HAMMAS SYRIA IRAN and FARC the Chavez backed and Iranian trained Equador Terror group could soon be president of the free world! Start impeachment on Jan 21 2009 he is not eligible to be President he is a non citizen and Foreign Born, what happened to the real men in congress, Melt the Congresses phone lines on Monday demand investigation, this is a coup by terrorist and commy libs the USA who propped their Puppet MESSIAH Obama to destroy America as we know it!!!! AMERIKA anyone? What happened to the US Constitution, is the Presidency up for sale fo fee from foreign thugs and Terrorists! look up Odinga/Obama and the treason Obama committed with his Cousin Odinga from the same Tribe when he ran for president of Kenya, Odinga lost, he killed at least 1000-2000 Kenyians by burning down parts of Nirobi and all the Churches when he lost, but left all his Mosques! Obama lobbied for Odinga through diplomats and strong arming the Government he got him an Job in the Kenyan Government!! Do a BIO on Odinga he was in jail for a failed COUP in 1984, and was trained by the Russians, they wanted a foot hold in Africa, and was schooled in the late 70′s in E Germany, thats Obama Cousin Raul ODINGA of the Same Kenyan tribe, look him up! A treasonist act in 2006-2007 by the MESSIAH Barry Obama because America Backed the sitting President and Barry Obama openly raised money an campaigned for his MUSLIM Cousin who stated he wanted to make Kenya 100% Muslim!!!! This is some one who can not be the President of the Free World the once great USA! Scary concept where was the lunitic media no where in sight!
The Hawaian news paper interviewed Obamas neighbor in Hawaii given the adress Obama used, the neighbor said no one like the Obama ever lived there, she said a white women and a Black Arab baby never lived in that neighborhood, and she was lived there between 1958-1970! Why are all Obamas tribes men or familiy on Media Kenyan Military lock down in Kenya? His Grand mother and tribes people all saw Obama being BORN IN KENYA and said so! Is This Obamas Whitewater scandal? Daily Obama scandals DOS!! More gets revealed daily! Can you imagine Biden as president in 160 days? Yikes!!!! Kenya was an Arab country just food for thought! He not Black he is a white dark skinned ARAB!!
Posted by: NObama | December 21, 2008, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Exlib,
I am a proud Milennial generation liberal with a pyschology and, soon, law degree. My parents are 60′s liberals (some would say socialist hippies) and most of my teachers are liberal. They have told me that corporations are evil and that rich people have too much money.
My only concern is that I will have to find a job next year – unfortunately, my skills don’t match well with the higher paying jobs (engineering, software, construction), however, my parents say that I deserve a high paying job – so I have hope. And with Obama as President soon, hope is my plan.
Posted by: Suzy | December 21, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Conversation between blago and ‘the ram’
blago: What do you want for jarrett to get the the seat?
ram: barry is tired of the cow he has in bed and needs some action!
blago: Should I get larry sinclair?
ram: Yes and the limo!
blago: OK! larry and the limo with a car full of crack?
ram: Yes! He wants larry and him to do crack and each other!
blago: You are driving again – right?
ram: Of course, we will do anything for the messiah!
blaog: Now about the senate seat?
ram: Later after our racker conference!
Posted by: Jack Meoffe | December 21, 2008, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
Damn democrats. You can’t trust any of them, they all just lie about anything they can get away with.
Obama won’t let the voters see where he was born because it appears it was in Kenya. Blogo lies about his pay to play actions and extortion. Frank, Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Schumer and others make up stories and don’t accept their primary blame for the economic crisis. And the Clintons are the master liers of them all.
The people must be blind to keep these crooks in office.
Posted by: Wally | December 21, 2008, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
As a conservative, I have just one thing to say:
I’m disgusted at the pathetic attitudes I’m witnessing in this thread.
It has been proven time and time again that Obama’s birth certificate is legitimate, and his own birth was verified by the State of Hawaii and news publications of the era. Why would anyone fake his documents back then? Did he know he would go from a basketball-playing college student on to become the POTUS? No, and anyone who believes this to be the case is certifiably insane.
Second, he’s not muslim. He never was muslim, and finally, it shouldn’t matter if he was muslim. This fear-mongering over religion is just as ridiculous; I would feel terrible if my evangelical views were condemned, and they ARE in other nations. Why shouldn’t freedom to believe in the exact same God be allowed?
Fellow conservatives, find something you dislike about his policy and shout about that. Don’t create falsehoods and disseminate those. According to our faithful book of prayer, lying is considered a sin. There is no evidence implicating Barack Obama in any criminal or misguided actions, so please stop slandering him. I voted for McCain, but aside from policy differences with Obama, there’s no reason to dislike him.
I will repost this passage in order to prevent hate.
Posted by: John Cadden | December 21, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
well, ask me how much i believe. ask
bill clinton how much thuggery is going
on in illinois. ask how much thuggery
will occur in the obama administration
with the illinois’s thugs being appointed
to us government offices. the us
is a worldwide disgrace — however
the world wants to participate.
Posted by: mike | December 21, 2008, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Things are going from bad to worse.
We have politicians buying seats – it calls into question by what authority any of our Representatives are acting (considering the constitution has been dismissed for the most part, considered old and out of date). At one time it was thought that our politicians were elected by the majority, so there was some semblance of representation. SO NOW WE ARE LEFT WITH POLITICIANS WHO SHRED THE CONSTITUTION AND BUY THEIR WAY INTO OFFICE – what right do they fill their seat? What authority do they have?
We are being forced into a police state, all that is required is one event (opportunity) that would allow the UN or “new world order” to be solidified on US soil. What we are seeing today – is the first phase – financial collapse – I have my suspicions concerning the upcoming event that will trigger even more chaos.
This is not limited to Repubs or Dems, it is both parties with their hands in the pot. Look, Bush has bought 100k acres in Paraguay to avoid the civil unrest that will be inevitable in the US. The rest of the politicians have their bug-out plans laid very well – with nice financial cushions to live safe and sound.
I would humbly recommend the following.
survivalblog
When All Hell Breaks Loose (Paperback)-by Cody Lundin
budsgunshop
At least 4 weeks food supply & water
Recall how quickly NewOrleans fell apart – Civilization is a thin veneer.
Posted by: None | December 21, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
How nice that this column serves to cover for Obama and Rahm, while those two say nothing. Great investigative stuff… We heard about Bush MIA for the military (false), Bush behind Valerie Plame(false)and on-and-on. Here, we have Georgie tell us,” Its okay folks, nothing to see here…” How refreshing…that is journalistic ‘change’ we can depend on.
http://www.conservativemusiconline.com
Posted by: Lance Morrison | December 21, 2008, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
So is it possible that we will ever get an official investigation of all the charges that Obama is not a native-born American? What is the process for getting him indited for fraudulent statements about his true birth state it that is ever found to be the case. Who will get killed to hide that lie before the truth comes out?
Posted by: Ben | December 21, 2008, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Democrat All My LIfe:
You must be one of the biggest fools in America. Obama’s citizenship has be settled. Stop wasting the adults time and go and play.
Posted by: unshrub | December 21, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
NObama, obama will serve 8 years.
Posted by: mike | December 21, 2008, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
REQUEST TO SCOTUS:
GIVE US A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR
DO YOUR JOB
IMPEACH THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT ELECT – WHATEVER THAT IS, NEVER HEARD OF IT BEFORE
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
2008
Posted by: lotzahair | December 21, 2008, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Are we to believe that Obama had no interest and asked no questions about who his seat was going too? Get real people.
Posted by: zeke | December 21, 2008, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
“The only reason he was reelected was 1) he had an inconceivably vast campaign war chest in the last election”
The problem of Blago’s reelection is also with a lack of caps for campaign contributions in Illinois. If I’m not mistaken, it’s the only state without corporate and individual limitations for contributions. Blago subsequently, has grown very apt in bilking a funding situation that works to the advantage of crooks. Let’s not forget that at least 3 Illinois governors have gone to the slammer within the last 30 years or so. First and foremost, there needs to be major reforms to the enabling campaign system in force.
Posted by: kat | December 21, 2008, 10:38 pm 10:38 pm
Come on Stephie, Obama had only passing interest in who gets his senate seat? That would be alarming in itself.
Posted by: zeke | December 21, 2008, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
The Reaper
The same goes for you,
You must be one of the biggest fools in America. Obama’s citizenship has be settled. Stop wasting the adults time and go and play.
Posted by: unshrub | December 21, 2008, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Weren’t they told not to make any statements until the week of the 22nd. As usual they do whatever they like. And oh how convient that the reporter is an old spokesperson for the Clinton administration. What a group…kind of like greasy spoons all stuck together.
Posted by: Lori | December 21, 2008, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
If I were on the BBC website and read comments similar to what I see here, I’d probably come to the conclusion that the Brits had serious problems with their gene pool. Good night.
Posted by: Kat | December 21, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
It has been proven time and time again that Obama’s birth certificate is legitimate
Posted by: John Cadden
————-
NO, IT HAS NOT!
Show me his 1961 birth certificate. He hasn’t & you can’t.
His (forged) 2007 “Certification of Live Birth” is NOT a 1961 “Certificate of Live Birth”.
Children born outside the US/Hawaii get a “Certification” document. If Barack was actually born in Hawaii, he’d have a “Certificate” as well.
These two completely different documents are compared here:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R-l1iejogZw/SQLJZbuSVXI/AAAAAAAABKM/9B2p–yZzDw/s1600-h/Obama+COLB.jpg
Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
His mother registered his birth later in Hawaii upon her return.
Obama is not a US citizen (natural-born or otherwise), and he never has been.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
The democrat culture of corruption is out in the open. Obama will be a tainted president and the media will do it best to try and cover up the payola. After all the media endorse and in braced Chicago corruption to put the messiah in power. 4 years and obama is out of office.
Posted by: WIlly Brown | December 21, 2008, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
Obama’s citizenship has be settled.
Posted by: unshrub
________
No, it has not.
& it won’t be until/unless he produces a real 1961 birth certificate.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
It’s good to be prez! O’bama for U.S. and Ireleand! Cheers!
Posted by: O' Neil | December 21, 2008, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
“The Reaper”: give it a REST already. You must be psuedo’ing under Cheney. CIA will be on your behind.
Posted by: Irritated | December 21, 2008, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
John,
Thank-you for your post – please continue to shame the mindless conservatives re: Obama’s birth even if they are right (this drives them nuts).
By the way, the State of Hawaii issued birth certificates “after the fact” and the one posted by Obama was shown to be a fraud. Moreover, Obama has refused to provide the authenticated “vault copy” certificate. The facts are clear, however, neither the media or Supreme Court will take this on.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 21, 2008, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
Man, Obama must be the most hated President elect in modern history!!
He’s not going to catch abreak for 4 years, wait till he’s sworn in. It’s going to get ugly out here in America….
Posted by: yes it is | December 21, 2008, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
As a conservative, I have just one thing to say:
I’m disgusted at the pathetic attitudes I’m witnessing in this thread.
It has been proven time and time again that Obama’s birth certificate is legitimate, and his own birth was verified by the State of Hawaii and news publications of the era. Why would anyone fake his documents back then? Did he know he would go from a basketball-playing college student on to become the POTUS? No, and anyone who believes this to be the case is certifiably insane.
Second, he’s not muslim. He never was muslim, and finally, it shouldn’t matter if he was muslim. This fear-mongering over religion is just as ridiculous; I would feel terrible if my evangelical views were condemned, and they ARE in other nations. Why shouldn’t freedom to believe in the exact same God be allowed?
Fellow conservatives, find something you dislike about his policy and shout about that. Don’t create falsehoods and disseminate those. According to our faithful book of prayer, lying is considered a sin. There is no evidence implicating Barack Obama in any criminal or misguided actions, so please stop slandering him. I voted for McCain, but aside from policy differences with Obama, there’s no reason to dislike him.
I will repost this passage in order to prevent hate.
Also, to those alleging that no one recorded the births:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php
Fellow conservatives, please stop spreading this nonsense. You are demonizing our own party!
Posted by: John Cadden | December 21, 2008, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
That is right. Rham only made ONE Phone Call. He did it 21 times..
Posted by: R J | December 21, 2008, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
John – That is an awesome post.
Posted by: NotaSpammer | December 21, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
I have to agree with John here. Those of you blindly ignoring the truth are only making republicans look bad. I look forward to the day my son can proudly say that he’s an unbiased conservative viewholder. Until that day, both of us are afraid of talking about our conservative views because of the satanic association right-wind radicals such as The Reaper (ironic nickname) bestow upon us.
Posted by: Jacob D | December 21, 2008, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Unshrub,
It is refreshing to read your posts and website. I did, however, find one mistake. You say that: “They [conservatives] are federalists that want absolute control over state and individual rights”. The reality, however is that we liberals are all out big government, big taxes and control over people’s money. This is the only way to ensure equality – the rich need to finally pay their fair share.
This is why I voted for Obama and believe to the bottom of my heart that he will transfer money to me – I really don’t want to find a high-paying job (I’m not qualified and don’t want to work 50+ hours per week).
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 21, 2008, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
You can always tell when an article is linked to Drudge. You would never know that Bush is leaving office with the lowest approval rating since Nixon.
Posted by: jumping | December 21, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Obama has refused to provide the authenticated “vault copy” certificate. The facts are clear, however, neither the media or Supreme Court will take this on.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal
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The corrupt and cowardly SCOTUS knows/fears that, if they have to take up this issue, it’s a no-brainer – BO isn’t even a US citizen, let alone a Natural-Born Citizen as Art II requires.
They know that if they do their job and declare Obama “not qualified”, millions of illiterate, mouth-breathing leftists and violent, tribal gang-banger blacks will take to the streets and cause property damage.
Of course, the military – not to mention 20 million white deer hunters – could quickly dispatch this street rabble…..but, neither Congress nor the Supremes want to deal with this scenario, so they are more comfortable tossing away the Constitution it seems.
Well, OK. In that case, since they are “comfortable” with mob rule…..I say give it to them.
Guess which side owns the guns.
I’d be perfectly comfortable taking on 5-10 Obots at once in armed conflict….no problem. I have armor, an LBE, spare mags, ammo………they have a dirty old Glock they hold sideways in one hand while trying to hold their pants up with the other.
Plus, there are more of my type, by several orders of magnitude, than there are armed Obots.
Guess who wins.
“JUST GET US STARTED!”
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
ok ok ok
Now for all of you who are looking for something about Obama to sink your teeth into, here we go.
Mr Blog was the seller and the likely beneficiary of the seat so first of all spend all your time and precious breath going after him. When you get him then make him tell you what you want to hear.
However while at it, since you all want a saint from heaven to be your President open your personal closet and let us all see what u got inside. dont also forget to let us know how many cokies you stole from your mom’s cokie pot when you were 5 years old.
Posted by: raykuti@yahoo.com | December 21, 2008, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
As a conservative, I have just one thing to say:
Posted by: John Cadden
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LMAO!
Yea, you’re about as conservative as W or Juan Shamnesty McSame.
Show me Barack’s 1961 birth certificate or STHU, you Obot.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
“I’d be perfectly comfortable taking on 5-10 Obots at once in armed conflict….no problem. I have armor, an LBE, spare mags, ammo………they have a dirty old Glock they hold sideways in one hand while trying to hold their pants up with the other.”…………………. Dude, you have serious issues. You really give conservatives a bad name with this sort of nonsense.
Posted by: NotaSpammer | December 21, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
The Reaper, please stop giving conservatives a bad name. Barack Obama is a fellow American, native born just like the rest of us, and this has been proven through newspapers and his “vault copy” birth certifiCATE which he has shown prior to the election.
I disagree with his big government policies, but as John Cadden said, you can’t fight over personal details. Otherwise, you’ll make yourself look bad.
Posted by: Jacob D | December 21, 2008, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
What I find funny is that some people on here attack Obama and his choices because they are simply from a Democratic president. Comparing him to Clinton, even one going so far as to say after he’s done installing all the old clinton cronies. Hey guys I have news for you. He’s actually done a pretty bi-partisan job of selecting his cabinet members. Enough so that even the crazy liberals are making a fuss about it.
Posted by: Chris | December 21, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
John,
Just between us, the birth certificate issue is not “settled” (kinda like the Global Warming “science”).
The state of Hawaii will not release the “vault copy” – “There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate,” Fukino said in the statement. “State law (Hawai’i Revised Statutes ¤338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record. … No state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai’i.”
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081101/NEWS05/811010345/1001/localnewsfront
The mindless conservatives will keep banging their heads on this one, however, it won’t get traction with the liberal media and Obama won’t release the “vault copy” since it was printed in Kenya.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 21, 2008, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
As a conservative, I have just one thing to say:
I’m disgusted at the pathetic attitudes I’m witnessing in this thread.
It has been proven time and time again that Obama’s birth certificate is legitimate, and his own birth was verified by the State of Hawaii and news publications of the era. Why would anyone fake his documents back then? Did he know he would go from a basketball-playing college student on to become the POTUS? No, and anyone who believes this to be the case is certifiably insane.
Second, he’s not muslim. He never was muslim, and finally, it shouldn’t matter if he was muslim. This fear-mongering over religion is just as ridiculous; I would feel terrible if my evangelical views were condemned, and they ARE in other nations. Why shouldn’t freedom to believe in the exact same God be allowed?
Fellow conservatives, find something you dislike about his policy and shout about that. Don’t create falsehoods and disseminate those. According to our faithful book of prayer, lying is considered a sin. There is no evidence implicating Barack Obama in any criminal or misguided actions, so please stop slandering him. I voted for McCain, but aside from policy differences with Obama, there’s no reason to dislike him.
I will repost this passage in order to prevent hate.
Also, to those alleging that no one recorded the births:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php
You can look in news archives and find these for yourself, dated Aug. 4, 1961.
Fellow conservatives, please stop spreading this nonsense. You are demonizing our own party! This especially applies to The Reaper, whose statements only exist to hide the bigoted hatred he has towards God’s creatures.
Posted by: John Cadden | December 21, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Jacob & Notaspammer,
You are not conservatives…though you may be Republicans.
You are certainly Obots.
WHERE’S OBAMA’S 1961 BIRTH CERTIFICATE?
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
It has been proven time and time again that Obama’s birth certificate is legitimate
Posted by: John Cadden
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No. It hasn’t.
Obama has NEVER produced a 1961 birth certificate.
Why won’t he?
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
Of course, they’re all off the hook, because the clintoon stooge boy secretly talked to the obs campaign, and after investigating themselves, they declared themselves innocent.
Yes, great reporting, you braindead doofuses.
Posted by: Lielikearahm | December 21, 2008, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
As a conservative, I have just one thing to say:
I’m disgusted at the pathetic attitudes I’m witnessing in this thread.
It has been proven time and time again that Obama’s birth certificate is legitimate, and his own birth was verified by the State of Hawaii and news publications of the era. Why would anyone fake his documents back then? Did he know he would go from a basketball-playing college student on to become the POTUS? No, and anyone who believes this to be the case is certifiably insane.
Second, he’s not muslim. He never was muslim, and finally, it shouldn’t matter if he was muslim. This fear-mongering over religion is just as ridiculous; I would feel terrible if my evangelical views were condemned, and they ARE in other nations. Why shouldn’t freedom to believe in the exact same God be allowed?
Fellow conservatives, find something you dislike about his policy and shout about that. Don’t create falsehoods and disseminate those. According to our faithful book of prayer, lying is considered a sin. There is no evidence implicating Barack Obama in any criminal or misguided actions, so please stop slandering him. I voted for McCain, but aside from policy differences with Obama, there’s no reason to dislike him.
I will repost this passage in order to prevent hate.
Also, to those alleging that no one recorded the births:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php
Fellow conservatives, please stop spreading this nonsense. You are demonizing our own party!
Posted by: John Cadden | December 21, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
it’s ironic how one conservative is enraging another, delusional neocon simply by cutting and pasting the same thing over and over again.
I think it’s up for The Reaper’s games.
Posted by: Irrelevant | December 21, 2008, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
As a conservative, I have just one thing to say: …….I voted for McCain,
Posted by: John Cadden
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No. You’re an Obot.
Conservatives didn’t vote for McSame….that’s why he lost.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Jumping,
You say that Bush’s approval ratings are low. I have to say, ratings are over-stated. Heck, the democrat-controlled congress is at an all-time low of 9% – check it out: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_performance/congressional_performance
However, that does not faze me – Pelosi, Reid, Frank and Obama are the future – full of hope and change. The Americans who did the above Rasmussen poll are simply under-educated – they don’t have a psychology degree like me.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 21, 2008, 11:27 pm 11:27 pm
The Reaper:
HAVEN’T THE SUPREME COURT ALREADY REFUSE TO HEAR ONE NUT CASE AND ABOUT TO REFUSE THE OTHER!!!!
I guess your expert witness is as dumb as you to believe such stupidity!!!!
No, I do not have to pass out the Watchtower!!!!
I just open up my BIBLE and read it!!!!
You need to try it!!!!
You might learn something from it, the Bible!!!!
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | December 21, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
Judging from The Reaper’s comments, he’s definitely a neoconservative. True conservatives never slander a person based on (Watch The Reaper’s next posts) false accusations.
Of course, The Reaper will return and fail miserably at countering this, but he knows the time of militaristic, imperialist neoconservatism is over. It’s time for a return to our roots. Eisenhower was a far better conservative than The Reaper and others like him.
Posted by: Jacob D | December 21, 2008, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
During the Blagojevich trial, will Barack Obama be called as a witness for the prosecution or the defense?
Posted by: maroongold | December 21, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
John Cadden,
I am amazed how you can post the same stuff in multiple threads without making a typo.
Heck, why stop at 3 – why not post it 3,000 times – that would make you 3,000% right! (of course, I didn’t do well at math or science – but I do have a psych degree).
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 21, 2008, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm
**Hey john cadden **
Stop posting the same thing over and over!!! Repeating a lie does’nt make it true… People Just Dont Trust Or Like Obama, that’s pretty obvious….
Posted by: yes it is | December 21, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
“During the Blagojevich trial, will Barack Obama be called as a witness for the prosecution or the defense?”
Neither. He has a country to run.
Posted by: Irrelevant | December 21, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Lot of sour grapes around here.
Posted by: Alfredo | December 21, 2008, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
sisterdearest09,
The Supreme Court really should take up Berg’s lawsuit.
If they refuse, as I think is likely, what will follow is possibly a military coup….or definitely an insurgency that’ll make Iraq look like DisneyLand.
FYI: at the height of the Iraqi insurgency there were 20-25,000 fighters. ……there are 1000 times that many who will join the fight here.
“JUST GET US STARTED!”
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
SuzyTheLiberal, the way you’re commenting is indicative of someone who is concealing his/her true beliefs. Come out of the aether and show yourself as a conservative like me! There’s no reason to hide; the more of us band together, the more pressure the deficient neoconservatives will feel to withdraw their unpopular arguments.
Posted by: Jacob D | December 21, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
It’s sweet to see the crowd who couldn’t wait to dig up dirt on S. Joe the Plumber and Sarah Barracuda flatly deny any connection between Obama and the gangsters from Chicago. How quickly things change!
Posted by: Dave | December 21, 2008, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
Fellow Liberals,
The Obama dawn is nearing – here is what I look forward to most:
- Trillion dollar social programs that will ensure that I don’t have to find a hard job. We must transfer wealth from rich people and increase our revenue.
- Trillion dollar global warming “prevention” – tax fossil fuels, get rid of coal. Electricity will “skyrocket” per Obama, but that is OK – we must save the planet. Don’t believe the dumb stuff like the sun is the primary temperature driver – thats just nuts.
- Force the little people to stay in public schools (vote down vouchers). Many of my friends are school teachers – they need their jobs.
- Don’t worry if debt crushes our children or grand-children – we won’t be around then.
Would love to hear your views on the above.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 21, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
So ChiTrib reports 21 calls…Obama reports one courtesy call. Media believes….Obama.
Pathetic…
Posted by: RBR | December 21, 2008, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
Suzy,
If you’re still out there. I wish you all the luck in the world. I hope you are successful and make as much money as you want to. If you feel you are being paid too much, give it to whoever you wish (and I mean that sincerely). It’s your money and that’s the point…it’s YOUR money and you can give it to whoever YOU want. Just don’t legislate that others, who may not share your views (for reasons of they may want to use that money to send their kids to college or save for their retirement, etc.) have to have their hard earned money confiscated by the government at an absurd rate. Realize that liberal professors have never had to make a payroll or employ anyone. They haven’t had to pay payroll taxes, single business taxes, unemployment taxes…education and intelligence are totally separate things, in the case of many academics. They are free to preach whatever they want, with little idea of what goes on in the real world. I know of what I speak. Best of luck to you.
Posted by: Exlib | December 21, 2008, 11:39 pm 11:39 pm
The Reaper should be tried for treason. I could have understood rebellion under Bush’s tyranny, but under Obama?
I don’t get it. The court currently has a conservative slant, and yet you think they wouldn’t take up this case? They’re dying to take up this case if there was any true evidence, but there isn’t. All of it is circumstantial crap put out by treasonous villains like The Reaper.
The Reaper, the majority of our armed forced voted for Obama because they want CHANGE. Change is something McCain and Palin certainly wouldn’t have brought.
Posted by: Irrelevant | December 21, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Hey Reaper
Last time I checked 60 million Americans did’nt vote for Obama and will agree with you!! Obama is in for serious trouble trying to lead this country…
Posted by: ynot | December 21, 2008, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
Judging from The Reaper’s comments, he’s definitely a neoconservative.
Posted by: Jacob D
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Oh Puhleez!
Judging by your comments, you’re a slimey neocon Repug who’s flipped and become a paid Obot poster.
I’m a Goldwater/Reagan/Buchanan/Savage conservative…..to the right of Rush – to the left of God.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
So liberal George Stephanopoulos helps out buddy Rahm Emanuel. Gee, there’s a suprise.
Next thing, ABC will be telling us that George is a journalist and not a partisan hack
Posted by: serversam | December 21, 2008, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Isn’t it interesting that the Obama commemrative coin advertized on TV, costs more than his brother makes in a year, over there in Africa…
Posted by: BO BO DIDDLEY | December 21, 2008, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
Last time I checked 60 million Americans did’nt vote for Obama and will agree with you!! Obama is in for serious trouble trying to lead this country…
Posted by: ynot
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& The freak show isn’t even started.
Relax & enjoy.
See if the SCOTUS do their job and disqualify Obama, the Kenyan-born Indonesian.
Keep your guns – “assault rifles” etc. – and never register them or yourself.
Keep buying ammo.
Become as self-sufficient as you can.
You should be able to “hole-up” for 6 months to a year without leaving “the bunker” or even depending on city tap water.
And remember, it takes a long time to load magazines……..stay frosty!…..aim for the head and the groin.
We own the Obots 1000:1 when the shooting starts.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
Obama is and will be the biggest failure in history, he’ll get full credit for the depression and war that will happen on his watch. Look for him to start a draft soon, he’s keeping the troops in Irac and sending 30,000 more to Afganistan next year.
Posted by: as if | December 21, 2008, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
“I’m a Goldwater/Reagan/Buchanan/Savage conservative…..to the right of Rush – to the left of God.”
To the right of Rush? That puts you into Radicalist territory.
Those guys are terrorists! Timothy McVeigh!
Posted by: Jacob D | December 21, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Exlib,
Thank-you for the well meaning post.
However, my profs and parents have taught me that revenue should be shared – in order to create an equal society. This will ensure that no one goes hungry and no one gets too rich.
One of my past friends – an electrical engineer – tried to convince me that capitalism is good: “You need a Bill Gates to start a Microsoft which now employs over 10K people”. I don’t beleive that.
Just look at Obama – he was a socialist New Party (NP) candidate and has done extremely well since then. This link shows the platform of the DSP and NP – this is the future: http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 21, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Exlib,
Thank-you for the well meaning post.
However, my profs and parents have taught me that revenue should be shared – in order to create an equal society. This will ensure that no one goes hungry and no one gets too rich.
One of my past friends – an electrical engineer – tried to convince me that capitalism is good: “You need a Bill Gates to start a Microsoft which now employs over 10K people”. I don’t beleive that.
Just look at Obama – he was a socialist New Party (NP) candidate and has done extremely well since then. This link shows the platform of the DSP and NP – this is the future: http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 21, 2008, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
“Obama is and will be the biggest failure in history, he’ll get full credit for the depression and war that will happen on his watch. Look for him to start a draft soon, he’s keeping the troops in Irac and sending 30,000 more to Afganistan next year.”
The recession started in 2007. The wars started in 2002/03. The 30,000 troops were approved just recently, under BUSH’s reign!
You sir, just failed.
Posted by: Irrelevant | December 21, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Irrelevant,
I still wonder…, Fitzgerald says Barack Obama and his administration is not a target of the investigation and Blagojevich says he did nothing wrong. Fitzgerald may want to hear what Barack Obama and his tramsition team have to say, and Blagojevich may want them to repeat that they had no contact.
Posted by: maroongold | December 21, 2008, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
To the right of Rush? That puts you into Radicalist territory.
Those guys are terrorists! Timothy McVeigh!
Posted by: Jacob D
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So were my kin – The Founders!
& Timmy McVeigh was a great Patriot – he shut down the Reno/FBI fascists almost single-handedly, didn’t he, scooter? One little former Army SGT.
Now, picture 20 million Tim McVeighs, you filthy Obot.
“JUST GET US STARTED!”
Posted by: The Reaper | December 21, 2008, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
**Irrelevant**
You silly, silly person!! Obama said he would reverse Bush policies, but on the war issues he agrees and has stated that in news conferances. Or maybe I imagined the news conferance where he appointed Bushes man Gates to manage the wars? Obama lied to you again, get used to it…
Posted by: as if | December 21, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
The recession started in 2007. = Democrats control Congress
The wars started in 2002/03 = No the wars started many years earlier, you just were not paying attention.
The 30,000 troops were approved just recently, under BUSH’s reign! = Approve more and lets finish this thing !
NO = You sir, just failed.
Like all this weak Libs
Posted by: BO BO DIDDLEY | December 21, 2008, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Do you believe what Obama or Obama’s team said and says “Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich will show that Rahm Emanuel had ONLY ONE PHONE conversation with Blagojevich. No, I don’t.
AMERICAN DOESN’T NEED “HOPE” & “CHANGE” from DECEPTION and LIE.
Posted by: Janet -NY | December 21, 2008, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
Obama = “The Lyin King”
Posted by: BO BO DIDDLEY | December 21, 2008, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
The Reaper, the majority of our armed forced voted for Obama
Posted by: Irrelevant
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LMAO!!!
Oh, sure they did skippy! & Bush/McCain are conservatives…..and Obama is really a US citizen.
….in your Obot alternate universe.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 12:01 am 12:01 am
I am getting tired of the anti-Obama statements – many say that the will be a failure. You are wrong.
Yes, Obama has not led a city, state, buiness or military unit, however, he did organize “Project Vote” which got Helen Moseley Braun elected – given her background (and congressional performance), getting her elected was a major accomplishment.
We need to give Obama a chance – I am confident that he will gain executive experience within the first 3 years and then he can start his re-election campaign.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 22, 2008, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Sure, Obamao is squeeky clean.
It’s just a coincidence his staff was buring up the phone lines to the other Democrat extortionist.
Just like the Obamamessiah knew nothing about corruption in Chicago or his pastor was a flaming racist.
Nothing to see here folks, move along…
Posted by: Harris Pilton | December 22, 2008, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Who the heck would want to be president?? You get blamed for anything that happens while you’re in office. Have you seen pictures of how much people age while in the office of president..
Posted by: ynot | December 22, 2008, 12:06 am 12:06 am
SuzyTheLiberal,
Yep! The Obot freak show hasn’t really begun yet…and it’s already hilarious!
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 12:08 am 12:08 am
The Reaper:
You and your friends are not going to do nothing!!!
You going to sit back and accept President-elect Obama as your president!!!!
You don’t scare NOBODY with that BULL!!!
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | December 22, 2008, 12:14 am 12:14 am
This love affair with all things Obamao related is disguting.
If one of the lame, bumbling repulicans had been caught doing half the crap of these sleazy, hypocritical Democrats they would have tarred & feathered by now.
Just take a look at the contrast in coverage with the mental midget/wannabe Demorat Bush and Obamao.
One walks on water and is the second coming of you know who, and the other is the Antichrist.
Blagostench was arrested when he was because Obama was most likely in danger of incriminating himself on tape.
Can’t have that.
And Barry knew nothing about Rezko’s dirty deals either right? Just happened to purchase adjoining properties on the same day right? Obamao’s mansion goes for 300K under market value and Rezko’s piece is overpaid by almost the same amount?
Wake up people. Rome is burning.
Posted by: Harris Pilton | December 22, 2008, 12:15 am 12:15 am
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Jacob D,
I am a proud liberal and am not afraid to say so. My parents warned me about smart conservatives who will try to trick me – that simply won’t work.
I would love to debate you re: economic and tax policy.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 22, 2008, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Is anyone stupid enough to believe that Obama is the only virgin in the whorehouse?
Posted by: Stark Raving Liberal | December 22, 2008, 12:20 am 12:20 am
Obama promised us the results of his “investigation” last week. Why is he stonewalling? What is he covering up? He hasn’t even been coronated yet and President-Select Obama is already eyebrow deep in scandal. Was this the Change We Could Believe In?
Posted by: Tom | December 22, 2008, 12:24 am 12:24 am
And Barry knew nothing about Rezko’s dirty deals either right? Just happened to purchase adjoining properties on the same day right? Obamao’s mansion goes for 300K under market value and Rezko’s piece is overpaid by almost the same amount?
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Harris,
The Sun Times confronted Obama on the Rezko-House deal and Obama initially denied it – he later recanted and stated that he and Rezko toured the property together before the deal. However, I beleive Obama – he is very truthful especially after the initial response – I am sure that the Sun Times tricked him.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 22, 2008, 12:25 am 12:25 am
Much ado about nothing. It’s already been established that Obama’s team would not give Blago anything he asked for. Blago has been captured on tape *complaining* about that. This is a non-story.
Posted by: Will H. | December 22, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
Obama and Blago are joined at the Rezko.
Now we know how Michelle Obama got on all those boards, in the same way like Blago tried to get his wife on various boards.
Now we know how Michelle doubled her U Chicago salary after Obama got an earmark for U Chicago.
Blago=Obama=Rezko=corruption. The Obama fruit doesn’t fall far from the Blago tree.
Posted by: Go Al Franken!! | December 22, 2008, 12:29 am 12:29 am
**sisterdearest09**
I think The Reaper is serious, millions of people are preparing for a depression and anarchy soon to be upon us. Did you see the news that gun sales increased 100% since Obama was elected, it was on the main news stations. Also gold is hard to buy , the supply has been bought up. Just ask your local gold and coin dealer. Costco is limiting how much bulk food you can buy at one time(beans,rice, Etc.) Something is up!!
Posted by: as if | December 22, 2008, 12:31 am 12:31 am
sisterdearest09,
Can we agree that should WE decide to start something, the results will be inevitable?
20 million beyond-heavily-armed “insurgents”, mostly veterans like myself, is gonna be kinda tough to stop…..even for the DC Park Police….don’t ‘ya think, hun?
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
SuzyTheLiberal, Your posts lead me to beleive that you are either a conservative in sheep’s clothing or a very naive, young liberal who is pouring – not drinking – the socialist kool-aid.
Assuming it is the latter, do you beleive that transferring wealth from one person to another (via an inefficient govt bureaucracy) will create or destroy jobs?
Posted by: Joe | December 22, 2008, 12:32 am 12:32 am
Odinga’s mother was an atheist, Muslim-loving whack job who couldn’t raise her son because she was too busy chasing after Muslim men in Indonesia.
Odinga will be impeached within six months as more and more information about this infanticide loving Marxist comes to light.
I look forward to demonstrating the EXACT level of respect and loyalty to your Kenyan Commander as you showed Bush, and then some.
And, btw, there are almost 60 million Americans who voted against the Great Teleprompter Reader and believe me when I tell you that he will NEVER EVER EVER be our president.
The marxist messiah will be a fiasco. It is a good thing he has his phony Office of the President Elect (what a tool), because that is all he will have once he is impeached.
I also hope that no one in the mitary obeys Odinga’s orders, since he is an illegal alien that is occupying the WH, along with that racist, perpetually angry wife of his.
How’s that for hope and change?
Posted by: Narcissa | December 22, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
Obama is getting nervous as his cover-up unravels!!! Most corrupt president-elect in history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Obama's birth certificate | December 22, 2008, 12:33 am 12:33 am
George, please read some articles by John Kass and learn how a real journalist investigates and writes.
Posted by: Michelle | December 22, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Obama is a liar. I will never respect a man who has conducted himself in the manner Obama has. He deserves the contempt of all decent people. Those who supported him willingly allowed him to hypnotize them; they are like zombies now — they cannot think like normal people at all. They cannot tell the difference between what the Constitution says a president must be (a natural born citizen) and “citizen” or “native born citizen.” They haven’t made any effort to understand the three different terms or the fact that there is no ruling by the Supreme Court on the definition of a “natural born citizen.”
They scream bloody murder loudly if anyone dares to mention that Obama even admits to being a dual citizen at birth. They, like two-year-olds, plug their ears so they don’t have to hear the truth, and scream at the top of their lungs how crazy everyone else is.
They drink gallons of Kool-Aid per day, and when Obama goes down, they will all freak out.
Posted by: tanarg | December 22, 2008, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Joe,
I am a liberal and here is my answer:
Transferring wealth from one group to another will accomplish 3 goals:
a) ensure the poor are equal to the rich
b) allow progressive programs to flourish – just look what Social Security has done for us!
c) ensure political professionals – like Obama, Reid, and Pelosi can continue their career without having to waste time in the private sector (just look at the big program salaries, e.g. Fannie Mae).
All in all – this should create many more jobs.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 22, 2008, 12:36 am 12:36 am
Obama is “eyebrow deep in scandal” ?? — what an asinine comment.
The Repubs are just dying for something to go wrong with Obama. For all their talk of loving this country so much, they’d prefer that he fail than that he actually turns out to do good things for the U.S.
What a bunch of sad sacks!
Posted by: JKL | December 22, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
“will confirm what Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and President-Elect Obama have said — and what Governor Blagojevich clearly believed: that Obama officials were not open to any kind of deal for the Obama Senate seat.”
Oh George George George, thats not what Fitzgerald said at all. You bought the spin and are fobbing it off on us.
This is one of those attempts to get the initial story out there everybody goes off to Christmas and by the time we find out that we have been snowed its old news.
The Headline is Obama admits Rahm spoke to Blago and staff at least 6 times about this thing.
Posted by: BertieW | December 22, 2008, 12:39 am 12:39 am
The Repubs are just dying for something to go wrong with Obama. For all their talk of loving this country so much, they’d prefer that he fail than that he actually turns out to do good things for the U.S.
———————-
JKL,
Great post. Just because we were the most vitriolic critics on every decision made by the Bush Administration does not give the Reps the right to whine!
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 22, 2008, 12:42 am 12:42 am
Remain calm.
The Gubmint – Congress and SCOTUS – will let the Obot freak show commence and carry on.
The Military may not.
I’m about 50/50 already that there will be a military coup and our Kenyan-born Indonesian Mulatto “Messiah” will be removed from the Whitehouse.
I’m absolutely certain that 20+ million beyond-heavily-armed American civilians, like myself, will do it if they won’t.
So,
75+% that Obambi actually takes office
50/50 he is removed by either SCOTUS or Chimpeachment (I knew that word would blow back on lefties! lol!!!).
90+% The illegal alien, Barry Soetoro, and much of the Washingtonian Oligarchy will be slaughtered by a civilain insurgency as 20 million beyond-heavily-armed Americans take back the Republic.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 12:49 am 12:49 am
Why is the “NOT SO MAINSTREAM MEDIA” so interested in making excuses for OBAMA? THE MEDIA IS CORRUPT ALONG WITH HOLLYWOOD. BOYCOTT THEM ALL. DONT BUY OR WATCH ANY OF THEIR CRAP ANYMORE. THEY ARE PATHETIC LOSERS!!
Posted by: xinunus | December 22, 2008, 12:55 am 12:55 am
$1000 DOLLARS
TO ANYONE THAT CAN TELL ME WHAT HOSPITAL AND DOCTOR DELIVERED OBAMA!!
$1000 DOLLARS
Posted by: xinunus | December 22, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
We will never know the truth as long as we have George and the other Democrat minions spinning the facts. What happened to truth in reporting?
Posted by: JLS | December 22, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Obama and Rezko are friends/associates/business partners of convicted felon/influence peddler Tony Rezko. Yet we’re supposed to believe that Blago is as guilty as sin yet Obama is as clean as the snow?
For the first time in history we have a President ELECT plagued by a shocking scandal that could bring his administration to its knees even before it begins, IF it begins.
Posted by: JKL | December 22, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
$1000 DOLLARS
TO ANYONE THAT CAN TELL ME WHAT HOSPITAL AND DOCTOR DELIVERED OBAMA!!
$1000 DOLLARS
Posted by: xinunus | December 22, 2008, 12:56 am 12:56 am
$1000 DOLLARS
TO ANYONE THAT CAN TELL ME WHAT HOSPITAL AND DOCTOR DELIVERED OBAMA!
$1000 DOLLARS
Posted by: xinunus | December 22, 2008, 12:57 am 12:57 am
Remember also:
Besides the fact it friggin’ takes forever to load-up a dozen 30 round magazines….
Rope. Rope is scarce. I have a big boat, but maybe 300 feet of rope, tops.
Most people don’t own rope.
So, when we start hanging the Obots from cobra light poles – THINK EXTENSION CORDS!
Extension cords are as close as your garage, or the local ACE Hardware!
A typical 50′ 12 ga. extension cord could be cut up to hang at least (4) Obots.
I go with heavier 14 ga.
“JUST GET US STARTED!”
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
$1000 DOLLARS
TO ANYONE THAT CAN TELL ME WHAT HOSPITAL AND DOCTOR DELIVERED OBAMA!!!
$1000 DOLLARS
Posted by: xinunus | December 22, 2008, 12:58 am 12:58 am
$1000 DOLLARS
TO ANYONE THAT CAN TELL ME WHAT HOSPITAL AND DOCTOR DELIVERED OBAMA!!
$1000 DOLLARS
Posted by: xinunus | December 22, 2008, 12:59 am 12:59 am
This is truly a sad situation which is developing. During Obama’s news conference about Health Care reform where he introduced Senator Daschle as head of HHS, Obama stated when asked that he or his staff had “No Contact” with Gov Blagojevich. This despite Blagojevich saying on tape:
“that m – - – - – f – - – - -,” was willing to give nothing but “appreciation” if Blagojevich appointed Obama’s friend Valerie Jarrett.
Now it turns out that there was plenty of contact between the Gov and Obama’s staff.
According to the Chicago Sun-Times:
“Emanuel talked with the governor in the days following the Nov. 4 election and pressed early on for the appointment of Valerie Jarrett to the post, sources with knowledge of the conversations told the Sun-Times.
A source with the Obama camp strongly denied Emanuel spoke with the governor directly about the seat, saying Emanuel only spoke with Blagojevich once recently to say he was taking the chief of staff post.
But sources with knowledge of the investigation said Blagojevich told his aides about the calls with Emanuel and sometimes gave them directions afterward. Sources said that early on, Emanuel pushed for the appointment of Jarrett to the governor and his staff and asked that it be done by a certain date.
At least some of the conversations between Emanuel and Blagojevich were likely caught on tape, sources said.
After Jarrett took herself out of the running in mid-November, Emanuel submitted a list of suitable names to the governor’s camp that didn’t include her name.”
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1334979,CST-NWS-rahm17.article
And remember when Obama top adviser David Axelrod told FOX News Chicago on Nov. 23:
“I know he’s talked to the governor, and there are a whole range of names, many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them.”
Followed by this retraction on December 9, the day Blagojevich got arrested:
“I was mistaken. … They did not then or at any time discuss the subject.”
How anyone can defend Obama as being honest is beyond me.
Posted by: DarkShadows | December 22, 2008, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Obama not close to Blego. He campaigned for him, Either Obama is a hypocrite or they are tight. Pick one. You can’t have it both ways.
Posted by: RUCKUS | December 22, 2008, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Yeah DarkShadows, you forget that the Obama team cleared that up – remember they said their spokesman “misspoke”, so that settled it, right?
Posted by: misspoke | December 22, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
The job for all patriots is to oppose the Obama presidency and all it stands for!! Return America to the people….
Posted by: Gota Go | December 22, 2008, 1:06 am 1:06 am
If George claims to be a reporter for this article, he was paid too much, if he was paid at all. As a propagandist he was paid too little. The fact that he was paid at all for pretending to ascertain the facts for this article is a crime all unto itself.
Posted by: The Man Who Holds a Lamp | December 22, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
If George claims to be a reporter for this article, he was paid too much, if he was paid at all. As a propagandist he was paid too little. The fact that he was paid at all for pretending to ascertain the facts for this article is a crime all unto itself.
Posted by: The Man Who Holds a Lamp | December 22, 2008, 1:11 am 1:11 am
Where are all the other Senators – Why are they not demanding justice for the people. This whole scam calls all of their positions into question. How do we know, they too, did not buy their seats?
If they are illegitimate Reps, what rights do they have to decide on our behalf?
Posted by: WhereAreTheSenators | December 22, 2008, 1:12 am 1:12 am
$1000 DOLLARS
TO ANYONE THAT CAN TELL ME WHAT HOSPITAL AND DOCTOR DELIVERED OBAMA!!
$1000 DOLLARS
Posted by: xinunus
______
Xinunus,
Of corse, you will have no takers.
So, you’ll be able to spend that $1000 on rope and extension cords instead……or, MORE AMMO!
Cheers!
“JUST GET US STARTED!”
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 1:14 am 1:14 am
To the reaper – what is your caliber of choice?
Posted by: axyz | December 22, 2008, 1:17 am 1:17 am
TO: Narcissa AND Tanarg
Well said
If the SCOTUS continues to deny upholding OUR CONSTITUTION they need to be sent packing… that is their job and they have not done it. As far as Barry Soetoro is concerned and his bold attitude of ignoring the Constitution and the lawsuits surrounding his citizenship appears that he beleives he is above the law. Not answering when petitioned by the courts. That is contempt ! When the TRUTH is unveiled I hope that Barry Obama and his negative, nasty mouthed bride are sentenced and deported to Kenya, Indonesia, or wherever. I am amazed at the people that continue to say History was made with a Black president. Personally I don’t care if he was GREEN…but, a WHITE woman had this BRITISH/KENYAN/INDONESIAN – NO BLACK history made here. If Blago has anything important to reveal, I hope he sings like a CANARY and exposes everyone. WE have the RIGHT to know the TRUTH for a CHANGE. I am glad for this format to exchange websites and information as the biased media is DEAD.
Posted by: lotzahair | December 22, 2008, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Someone’s been buying alot of guns,ammo, and glod , The shops are out or very low on inventory?? Who knows whats going on…..
Posted by: as if | December 22, 2008, 1:23 am 1:23 am
If all of you will settle down -
Look does it matter that Obama is not a “Natural Born Citizen”? Does it matter that our Senators have bought their seats? Does it matter that judges defy our law versus enforcing them? Does it really matter that the Constitution is ignored and belittled, yet every illegitimate group can claim some form of self-interpereted protection from this exceptional document?
Does it matter that rules and policies are being manufactured to enrich the guilty?
Everyone needs to lighten up – you are not supposed to think or question, but repeat everything you are told by the mainstream media!!!!
Posted by: important - not really | December 22, 2008, 1:27 am 1:27 am
No worries, Obama is organizing a Constitutional Convention to retroactivlly legalize all misdeeds from the Dem party. Please google “Constitutional Convention” in the news.
Posted by: The Constitutional Convention | December 22, 2008, 1:32 am 1:32 am
To the reaper – what is your caliber of choice?
Posted by: axyz
_____
.50 BMG
.300 Win Mag
7.62 Nato
12ga
.223
.45ACP
…at least, that’s how I drop ‘em and go to the next.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
Today is not “church day” as “young voter” said. It is Sunday. It is the day that the Roman Catholic church declaired as holy even though the Bible states the seventh day (Saturday) is the day of rest. Go to church on Saturday to follow God. Go to church on Sunday to follow man.
Posted by: Roger | December 22, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
Today is not “church day” as “young voter” said. It is Sunday. It is the day that the Roman Catholic church declaired as holy even though the Bible states the seventh day (Saturday) is the day of rest. Go to church on Saturday to follow God. Go to church on Sunday to follow man.
Posted by: Roger | December 22, 2008, 2:01 am 2:01 am
Obama team clears itself. the messiah has spoken move on people.
Just because he said Rev Wright was his second DAD and he went to his church for 20 years, that doesn’t mean he knew he was a racist.
Just becasue he bought a house in a shaddy deal with Tony Rezko doesn’t mean he knew that Rezko was a slime ball.
Just becasue he supported the Gov and Emmanuel and him go way back, that doesn’t mean he anyone knew anything.
Posted by: jon | December 22, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
Obama team clears itself. the messiah has spoken move on people.
Just because he said Rev Wright was his second DAD and he went to his church for 20 years, that doesn’t mean he knew he was a racist.
Just becasue he bought a house in a shaddy deal with Tony Rezko doesn’t mean he knew that Rezko was a slime ball.
Just becasue he supported the Gov and Emmanuel and him go way back, that doesn’t mean he anyone knew anything.
Posted by: jon | December 22, 2008, 2:03 am 2:03 am
this is mincing words. notice that obama just says there was one phone conversation between rahm and blagojevich…. but, were there any conversations between Rahm and blagojevich’s underlings? where there any phone conversations with between Blagojevich and OTHER obama underlings? did blagojevich and Rahm have any NON-phone conversations (eg email etc)?
Posted by: american | December 22, 2008, 2:05 am 2:05 am
Now Jon,
How dare you use the facts to argue your point. It just makes things to difficult to defend Obama. From now on, please stick to arguing your point with feelings and emotion, that way everything is relative and fluid.
Posted by: today | December 22, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
I get a kick out of reading the results of this two-party ‘dog and pony show’ that u’all have bought into. “We’re right and you’re evil”. As Roger Daltry so elegantly sang- “Here’s to the new boss”. I’m still waiting on Georgie Boy to do an in-depth investigation on how he financed that apartment he bought in D.C.
Posted by: prowler | December 22, 2008, 2:33 am 2:33 am
Reaper,
What qualifies as a “Get Us Started” event?
Also, you need some anonomyzer or beware the IP.
Posted by: more of the same | December 22, 2008, 2:34 am 2:34 am
This is truly a sad situation which is developing. During Obama’s news conference about Health Care reform where he introduced Senator Daschle as head of HHS, Obama stated when asked that he or his staff had “No Contact” with Gov Blagojevich. This despite Blagojevich saying on tape:
“that m – - – - – f – - – - -,” was willing to give nothing but “appreciation” if Blagojevich appointed Obama’s friend Valerie Jarrett.
Now it turns out that there was plenty of contact between the Gov and Obama’s staff.
According to the Chicago Sun-Times:
“Emanuel talked with the governor in the days following the Nov. 4 election and pressed early on for the appointment of Valerie Jarrett to the post, sources with knowledge of the conversations told the Sun-Times.
A source with the Obama camp strongly denied Emanuel spoke with the governor directly about the seat, saying Emanuel only spoke with Blagojevich once recently to say he was taking the chief of staff post.
But sources with knowledge of the investigation said Blagojevich told his aides about the calls with Emanuel and sometimes gave them directions afterward. Sources said that early on, Emanuel pushed for the appointment of Jarrett to the governor and his staff and asked that it be done by a certain date.
At least some of the conversations between Emanuel and Blagojevich were likely caught on tape, sources said.
After Jarrett took herself out of the running in mid-November, Emanuel submitted a list of suitable names to the governor’s camp that didn’t include her name.”
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1334979,CST-NWS-rahm17.article
And remember when Obama top adviser David Axelrod told FOX News Chicago on Nov. 23:
“I know he’s talked to the governor, and there are a whole range of names, many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them.”
Followed by this retraction on December 9, the day Blagojevich got arrested:
“I was mistaken. … They did not then or at any time discuss the subject.”
How anyone can defend Obama as being honest is beyond me.
Posted by: DarkShadows | December 22, 2008, 2:51 am 2:51 am
This is rich. Eight years ago the left ginned up a non-existent relationship between Geroge Bush and Ken Lay in order to somehow link Bush to Enron. That was despite the fact that Enron gave more money to Democrats, Ken Lay was one of the Clinton donors who stayed overnight in the Lincoln bedroom, Bush had no onwership or management interest in Enron and the fraud occurred primarily during Clinton’s second term. There was an apocyphal story about Bush calling Lay “Kenny Boy” and even if true, it was never clear what the relevance was. So after eight years of made up associations, Democrats have tried to deny that Obama had a twenty year relationship with a racist, America hating conspiracy theorist who Obama said was like a father. He served on two boards with Bill Ayers but he claims he barely knew him. He was close with a former spokesman for Hamas. He was in fact a Democrat in Chicago and was ten times closer to Blagojevich than Bush ever was to Lay. The standard was set over the last eight years and Democrats aren’t going to like it when it is applied to their guy. After all, dissent is patriotic. I know that because Democrats have told us that over and over during the last eight years. Get ready for some dissent.
Posted by: jt007 | December 22, 2008, 3:09 am 3:09 am
Reaper,
What qualifies as a “Get Us Started” event?
Also, you need some anonomyzer or beware the IP.
———
You’ll know when it’s time.
& I fear nothing.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 3:11 am 3:11 am
blago looks like a cabage patch doll/ garbage pail kid the movie doll
Posted by: dusty | December 22, 2008, 3:17 am 3:17 am
Blago and Stephy look like they have the same male hair stylist…..don’t they?
Bet they have some other stuff in common.
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 3:20 am 3:20 am
the only reason there are so many posts here from right wing nut jobs bashing obama and spreading the same old lies is the fact matt drudge linked to this story. it happens every time. you all rush to the news article and start posting your hate filled lies and rants.
Posted by: rickmark | December 22, 2008, 3:33 am 3:33 am
hey dark shadows, how anyone can believe anything darth cheney and bushie the chimp says is true boggles the mind. both are compulsive liars. cheney keeps telling lies which have been proven to be lies on his farewell tour. so is bushie.
Posted by: ricky l. | December 22, 2008, 3:37 am 3:37 am
…well, I guess that w/o Drudge and “right wing nut jobs” this means ABC “News” is due for yet more layoffs, ‘eh rickmark?
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 3:42 am 3:42 am
It looks as if only harvard or clinton people are nominated why as if all others are not important.Oh yes Chicago still has its place and governor there has some importance to democrats.There are so many universities who have very intelligent people why not them Mr.President elect.
Posted by: P.Barman | December 22, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
BTW, ricky…..
Why won’t Barack produce an actual 1961 birth certificate?
Got any ideas?
Posted by: The Reaper | December 22, 2008, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Amazing that anyone who voted for Obama would have the nerve to refer to any other president as a “chimp!” I mean, have you seen Obama? If ever there was a primate to hold the presidency, it’s this know-nothing vine swinger. You know, I used to doubt evolution…
Until I got a look at that missing link, Balack Oh-mama.
Posted by: walter | December 22, 2008, 4:04 am 4:04 am
Drudge is amazing – a single guy taking on the Liberal press – AND holding his ground.
Simply amazing.
Posted by: none | December 22, 2008, 4:15 am 4:15 am
Fixer Emanuel needs to resign immediately.
Blago’s chief of staff who got all the other calls from Emanuel (three or 20 depending on who is right) has resigned for the ‘good of the state’.
Emanuel is tainting the new Administration and all of us Democrats.
We voted change–not the worst ‘business as usual’.
Obama cannot exonerate Emanuel and is lucky that he is not directly involved. He is already in enough trouble with the Chicago Blacks for what he did to Jesse Jackson Junior.
Posted by: demsts | December 22, 2008, 4:24 am 4:24 am
I just find it funny that we’re supposed to believe Stephanopoulos and his “sources”. Stephanopoulos comes from the Clinton White House, and who’s to say that his “sources” aren’t members of Obama’s team trying to leak information that’s favorable to them to drive the story in the direction THEY want. I think George is full of BS. Obama and Emmanuel are from Chicago. Chicago politics being what they are, you can’t tell me that there’s not more to it than one phone call. Sorry, George. Get better sources, and get them on the record, then you’ll make for a more reputable “journalist”.
Posted by: bE | December 22, 2008, 4:41 am 4:41 am
I can’t wait to do the snoopy dance when all the Bam Bam supporters get mud on their face from being thrown under the bus. Bam Bam doesn’t care about you, he only cares about himself.
Historical?……..pfffff he is just another man born from a white woman like every other president.
Seems curious that Representatives from the House and the Senate are having Private meetings about Rejecting the Electoral vote on the 8th. Which they can by the Consitutition… Do a little research people,… he is NOT qualified.
The SCOTUS cases were not dismissed….only the stays were, their cases are still pending. Burg’s goes to conference the 9th. Many states still have pending lawsuits. This isn’t going to go away. So why don’t he publish his full Vaulted BC in a mainstream newspaper to show we don’t know what we are talking about?….. Maybe because he can’t, he has to fight the truth.
Get a clue.
Posted by: JAC | December 22, 2008, 4:46 am 4:46 am
get rid of blago and let’s move on. personally, I’m a h3ll of a lot more worried about holding on to my job that any of this. my company just announced that we will not get a raise this year at all. not even a c.o.l.a.. we need to get this economy working again.
Posted by: chrisware | December 22, 2008, 4:51 am 4:51 am
Hey, America, the innauguration is fast approaching. Those still not convinced that Obama is the next president of the United States will miss this important event. Obama is not in league with the scandalous governor from Chicago. Stop fooling yourselves.
Posted by: what667 | December 22, 2008, 4:56 am 4:56 am
How many stories have we heard now? Half a dozen?
This story would have gone away immediately if BHO had simply said “Look I talked with the guy, but nothing inappropriate was said.” END OF STORY.
His inability to face down his adorning media does not instill much confidence that PEBO will have the fortitude to face down the US’s enemies.
Than again, FORTITUDE has never been a liberal trait.
Posted by: i just love him soooo much | December 22, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am
chrisware
maybe that is why we got in this situation. Instead of really checking out the smooth talking Chicago Politition, you heard some fake promises and voted for Change. To bad you are going to get what you voted for. Change for the bad….. and all for selfish reasons
Posted by: JAC | December 22, 2008, 4:59 am 4:59 am
Pffff and people don’t know how things work,…. the msm jumps the gun and starts calling him President elect….which he isn’t despite the little childish sign on his podium. Until the 8th of January when the electoral are counted and accepted.
Until then he is just another black man without a job waiting on his housing.
Posted by: JAC | December 22, 2008, 5:07 am 5:07 am
Rahm’s congressional seat is decided by special election… so no need for any kind of a deal there. The twenty something number is from the same reporter/paper that the transcript said that Blago used to plant things. There is no there in this “scandal”.
Posted by: janh | December 22, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am
If Bush is a chimp, what does that make BHO?
Posted by: i just love him soooo much | December 22, 2008, 5:09 am 5:09 am
Well, if Clintonista Geoege Steponus says it, it MUST be true.
Posted by: sudmuf | December 22, 2008, 5:13 am 5:13 am
All of you Obama haters are posting these negative messages just to make you feel good about your pathetic selves. It can be therapeutic, I might add.
Posted by: what667 | December 22, 2008, 5:25 am 5:25 am
Don’t worry, your lord and savior (obama) will pull through…
Posted by: matt | December 22, 2008, 5:28 am 5:28 am
I would not be surprised if this Chicago political engine also played a huge role in setting up Obama as POTMUS. It is more than coincidence that politicians from Chicago (Obama, Rahm, and etc) will be running this country). Perhaps, the Illinois Governor will spill the beans.
Posted by: sue | December 22, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am
I would not be surprised if this Chicago political engine also played a huge role in setting up Obama as POTMUS. It is more than coincidence that politicians from Chicago (Obama, Rahm, and etc) will be running this country). Perhaps, the Illinois Governor will spill the beans.
Posted by: sue | December 22, 2008, 5:33 am 5:33 am
NoObama, you are dellusional.
Posted by: what667 | December 22, 2008, 5:34 am 5:34 am
what–No. We are posting these messages of dissent to show BHO the same level of gratitude that GWB has enjoyed from the other side for his term.
GET USED TO IT.
Posted by: i just love him soooo much | December 22, 2008, 5:36 am 5:36 am
Why doesn’t George Stephanopoulos have the dignity to admit that he’s just a mouthpiece for the liberals? At least Rush admits what he is, apparently Stephanopoulos isn’t honorable enough to do that.
Posted by: Oonogil | December 22, 2008, 5:43 am 5:43 am
“Sources tell me” — Who are your sources George? Do any of them NOT work for Obama?
Posted by: Oonogil | December 22, 2008, 5:45 am 5:45 am
What a surprise! The spin media tells us for a week there were 21 calls then they confirm only one.
I guess they really do think the general public are sheep to be lead.
These guys are as good as Stalin’s propaganda machine.
Posted by: garyB | December 22, 2008, 5:50 am 5:50 am
NEWS FLASH
What did Obama know and when did he know it???
Posted by: Feb 09 Impeach OBama | December 22, 2008, 5:54 am 5:54 am
Remember, BHO is a lawyer. With that, this “one phone call” means that there is only one call that can be traced back to him or Emanuel.
Lawyers are crafty in that they select there wording very carefully. Politicians are the same. Now we have a lawyer/President. The truth will never be known about BHO since he knows how to cover it up. Hell, he even taught others how to do it.
Posted by: i just love him soooo much | December 22, 2008, 5:57 am 5:57 am
Honey, I only had sex with her one time.
Posted by: Dan | December 22, 2008, 5:57 am 5:57 am
The ignorance displayed here is appalling. There are three types of citizen:
Natural Born
Native Born
Naturalized
If Obama was born in in Hawaii, he is native born. But by his own admission, he was a subject of the UK at the moment of his birth. Thus, he is not a natural born citizen and is not qualified, according to the United States Constitution to be president.
End of story. The reason the Supreme Court hasn’t heard any of the cases has nothing to do with the merits of the case — it’s strictly a procedural issue.
You folks (many of you) are just so ignorant that it’s unbelievable. But then, you bought the snake-oil salesman’s little bottles, didn’t you? You fools! Products of the Democratic Party-run public schools.
Bill Ayers wasn’t enough for you? Rev. Wright wasn’t enough for you? Tony Rezko wasn’t enough for you?
How can anybody with even half a working neuron trust someone who hides his birth certificate?
Total morons — you Obamabots. Ted is quite right in his post above, by the way.
This fight is in no way “over,” as you will soon learn — one way or the other.
Posted by: tanarg | December 22, 2008, 6:02 am 6:02 am
Do black Americans really feel like this guy is one of them? All the blacks I know don’t seem to like half-and-halfs very much. Usually because they are raised by the white mothers; even though the mother is warped, they still get the benefit of being 50% white(higher IQ, better speech, etc..). They also get to check the box next to African American on any application. Thus enabling them to take advantage of affirmative action.
BHO is not just another thug from the hood. Someone I bet Oranjello and Lemonjello(actual welfare queens twin’s name) have very little in common with.
Posted by: BO=BS | December 22, 2008, 6:06 am 6:06 am
oonogil–You have found another trait that liberals do not possess. Honor.
So far we have: fortitude and honor.
Anyone want to add to the list?
Posted by: i just love him soooo much | December 22, 2008, 6:12 am 6:12 am
Another play on words from Barrys team. OBAMA-DRAMA – 4 more years of this – Lord help us !!!! This will be one of the most corrupt administrations in US history. All you fools who voted for this Chicago cess pool – you deserve what you are about to get !
Posted by: JIMBO | December 22, 2008, 6:28 am 6:28 am
The reverse of the previous statement can be taken as a indirect,painful confession, so I hope not to drive this case into the corner, to suspend it for now untill it can be diluted by the great success.
Posted by: 상율 한 | December 22, 2008, 6:29 am 6:29 am
I don’t understand how people believe that Obama is even capable of saving the world. This is an awful lot of power to give someone.The president is just a puppet.Do any of us really know what goes on in the WhiteHouse? Everything has become way to connected, we need someone to lead us into self preservation.I don’t buy into we need the global economy….what we really need is the end to massive consumption and greed!!! look what happends when Americans slow down their spending….the government makes up for it!!! this is the real crime….we need to change our thinking about the way we live..and we are starting to..KEEP GOING!!!!
Posted by: Mr.snurkles | December 22, 2008, 6:30 am 6:30 am
After voting in ten presidential elections, I learned that your candidate does’nt always win. I also learned that when the “fat lady” quits singing, it is time to accept the things you are not going to change. Getting worked up in a moronic “tizzy” isn’t going to do it. I guess you could leave and probably feel better. Unlike many countries, we don’t have an “out-a-gration” quota. You are free to go – anytime you want to.
Posted by: ray sparks | December 22, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am
After voting in ten presidential elections, I learned that your candidate does’nt always win. I also learned that when the “fat lady” quits singing, it is time to accept the things you are not going to change. Getting worked up in a moronic “tizzy” isn’t going to do it. I guess you could leave and probably feel better. Unlike many countries, we don’t have an “out-a-gration” quota. You are free to go – anytime you want to.
Posted by: ray sparks | December 22, 2008, 6:33 am 6:33 am
Get over it! Obama won the election by outmanuvering, outwitting, and outclassing all of his opponents. His ethical standards are high; yes an African American can have high ethical standards you know! If you can’t beat’m join’m.
Posted by: Askia Muhammad | December 22, 2008, 6:35 am 6:35 am
Chicago politics is the most corrupt in the country. Illinois and the US Congress needs a good enema to clean out all the old waste and filth that occupies those spaces today.
Scandal after scandal will erupt in the Obama regime. The media is already sweeping frantically under the rug but they won’t be able to keep it up for four years. Corruption, incompetence and ineptitude will abound. Congrats America. You now have your first “minority” President. Perhaps you should have waited until you found someone that was also honest, qualified and a capitalist.
Posted by: ricardo maxwell | December 22, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am
Chicago politics is the most corrupt in the country. Illinois and the US Congress needs a good enema to clean out all the old waste and filth that occupies those spaces today.
Scandal after scandal will erupt in the Obama regime. The media is already sweeping frantically under the rug but they won’t be able to keep it up for four years. Corruption, incompetence and ineptitude will abound. Congrats America. You now have your first “minority” President. Perhaps you should have waited until you found someone that was also honest, qualified and a capitalist.
Posted by: ricardo maxwell | December 22, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am
as an employee of the MSM we don’t expect you to tell the truth, we only expect you to be a cheerleader for another scandal or spectacle.. have fun sleeping tonite georgy-boy
Posted by: eric | December 22, 2008, 6:58 am 6:58 am
Odonna Brazile talking about every vote counting is the last big joke on Americans in 2008. That didn’t make it to the arguments in Florida and Michigan did it Ms. Brazile? You are a fraud.
Posted by: beebop | December 22, 2008, 6:59 am 6:59 am
Let’s hear the Republicans cry foul…
Freaking Crybabies!
Posted by: Akili6 | December 22, 2008, 7:12 am 7:12 am
Why the knee-jerk reaction to lie? It seems Rahm and Obama think all they have to do is use smoke & mirrors, and creative ways of stonewalling, and flat out lying. We the People are too stupid to read between the lines…or should that be “lies”. The proof must be on the tapes, and they must feel that we aren’t THAT stupid, so there was no way for Rahm to squeak through. Now they are putting a band-aid on the lies and saying it was a pro forma conversation….so again, WHY LIE? I can only guess it is Rahm’s natural inclination to lie.
Posted by: joanne | December 22, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am
I think it is very funny that all of you Kool Aid drinkers like to fault G.W. on the state of the finacial mess that we are in. I do believe that your Democratic congress has been in office for over two years.. What have they done to help with this mess. It is going to be 4 long years for you and Kool and The Gang, believe me Chicago gangsters aways go down.. Including President elects
Posted by: Rodney Jones | December 22, 2008, 7:23 am 7:23 am
George Steph.
Your reporting always favors the Democrats. Is it because you are a Democrat and a leftover from the Clinton administration? Where you served as Clinton’s press secretary?
As far as this article how credible can a report be? The Obama camp investigates itself…LOL
Posted by: CW | December 22, 2008, 7:29 am 7:29 am
My my my, SO defensive. The Obama supporters think that the rest of us “want” Obama to be involved. Want? How about KNOW? Having known NOTHING about Barack Obama, I managed to do a bit of research to see how he came to power, and all I could come up with was a list of names of crooks and terrorists that he associated himself with. If this were a Republican, the Dems would be outraged. Obama said he’s had NO CONTACT with Blago, yet a photo emerges with the two of them shaking hands, just days before. THAT was a lie.
Posted by: Trixie | December 22, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am
My my my, SO defensive. The Obama supporters think that the rest of us “want” Obama to be involved. Want? How about KNOW? Having known NOTHING about Barack Obama, I managed to do a bit of research to see how he came to power, and all I could come up with was a list of names of crooks and terrorists that he associated himself with. If this were a Republican, the Dems would be outraged. Obama said he’s had NO CONTACT with Blago, yet a photo emerges with the two of them shaking hands, just days before. THAT was a lie.
Posted by: Trixie | December 22, 2008, 7:40 am 7:40 am
I love the little minds of the neocons. Hey I used to be one till I saw how the haves were screwing the have nots of the world.
Obama IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Period. All this crap Reaper and Ted have been spewing is just that crap.
I even went and checked the article in the constitution. The definition is one of the most ambigous on record.
According to Gotcher, “The Fourteenth Amendment commands that “[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States , and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”
“This was clarified by the Civil Rights Act of April 9, 1866, which provided that ‘All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power are declared to be citizens of the United States.’”
“Senator Obama was born in the State of Hawaii two years after it became a state on Aug.21, 1959 As such, he acquired United States citizenship automatically at birth. While it is not necessary to go into all of the other legal errors contained in the posting (and there are many), the simple fact is that, with rare exceptions (children of diplomats), everyone born in the United States is a citizen of the United States at birth.”
But what about the age of Obama’s mother? Remember jus soli–citizenship through place of birth? (c’mon–there IS going to be a quiz). In that case–which happens to be Obama’s case–the age of the parents has nothing to do with anything. Under jus soli even the children of illegal aliens are U.S. citizens at birth–just ask the pregnant women from Mexico near the end of their third trimester who try to sneak across the border in hopes their child will be born in a San Diego hospital and leave with a U.S. birth certificate clutched in his or her tiny hand.
Except for the children of diplomats, every child born in the U.S. is a natural-born U.S. citizen, period. The parents could be citizens themselves, could be from France, could be Coneheads. Nothing else matters. Only if the child is born OUTSIDE the United States to one citizen-parent does the issue of the parents’ age, citizenship, or whatever, come into play.
“All that matters is that the child is born here, ” Gotcher says. “This is the reason that you are hearing so much fuss in Congress about changing the law that grants ‘birthright citizenship.’” But even such a law, however unlikely to pass, would not be retroactive. If Barack Obama wins the presidential election he can begin choosing the furniture for the Oval Office without watching for immigration agents over his shoulder
PS as in Chicago have known for years that Obama was not fond of Blago.
As for Bashing Bush , I voted for Bush in 2000 , I actually believed his line of bull and supported him for about 2 and 1/2 years till I realized I had been had. No one is going to make you haters stop hating Obama.
We know the real reason dont me. Its because hes half black. Two people I know who were standing in rural areas for the election heard the N word bandied about. Things like Im voting for Mccain NO Nig in the white house for me.
By the way I voted for a Republican too. I cant believe how sheep like people on both parties are. Voting straight party.
There are alot of crooks in Illinois but I remember Mccain was involved with Keating 5 and is seems Palin is a bit shady.
Posted by: Carramea55 | December 22, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am
I love the little minds of the neocons. Hey I used to be one till I saw how the haves were screwing the have nots of the world.
Obama IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Period. All this crap Reaper and Ted have been spewing is just that crap.
I even went and checked the article in the constitution. The definition is one of the most ambigous on record.
According to Gotcher, “The Fourteenth Amendment commands that “[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States , and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”
“This was clarified by the Civil Rights Act of April 9, 1866, which provided that ‘All persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power are declared to be citizens of the United States.’”
“Senator Obama was born in the State of Hawaii two years after it became a state on Aug.21, 1959 As such, he acquired United States citizenship automatically at birth. While it is not necessary to go into all of the other legal errors contained in the posting (and there are many), the simple fact is that, with rare exceptions (children of diplomats), everyone born in the United States is a citizen of the United States at birth.”
But what about the age of Obama’s mother? Remember jus soli–citizenship through place of birth? (c’mon–there IS going to be a quiz). In that case–which happens to be Obama’s case–the age of the parents has nothing to do with anything. Under jus soli even the children of illegal aliens are U.S. citizens at birth–just ask the pregnant women from Mexico near the end of their third trimester who try to sneak across the border in hopes their child will be born in a San Diego hospital and leave with a U.S. birth certificate clutched in his or her tiny hand.
Except for the children of diplomats, every child born in the U.S. is a natural-born U.S. citizen, period. The parents could be citizens themselves, could be from France, could be Coneheads. Nothing else matters. Only if the child is born OUTSIDE the United States to one citizen-parent does the issue of the parents’ age, citizenship, or whatever, come into play.
“All that matters is that the child is born here, ” Gotcher says. “This is the reason that you are hearing so much fuss in Congress about changing the law that grants ‘birthright citizenship.’” But even such a law, however unlikely to pass, would not be retroactive. If Barack Obama wins the presidential election he can begin choosing the furniture for the Oval Office without watching for immigration agents over his shoulder
PS as in Chicago have known for years that Obama was not fond of Blago.
As for Bashing Bush , I voted for Bush in 2000 , I actually believed his line of bull and supported him for about 2 and 1/2 years till I realized I had been had. No one is going to make you haters stop hating Obama.
We know the real reason dont me. Its because hes half black. Two people I know who were standing in rural areas for the election heard the N word bandied about. Things like Im voting for Mccain NO Nig in the white house for me.
By the way I voted for a Republican too. I cant believe how sheep like people on both parties are. Voting straight party.
There are alot of crooks in Illinois but I remember Mccain was involved with Keating 5 and is seems Palin is a bit shady.
Posted by: Carramea55 | December 22, 2008, 7:42 am 7:42 am
Tarag ….. I have no issue with Bill Ayers If Mccain could hang out with Gordon Liddy. Obama could hang with Ayers. I personally would have no issue having Mr. Ayers in my home. Rev Wright did you ever read the whole sermon ? America did bring hatred on itself. Rev Wright has issues I dont agree with but I know many African Americans who feel HIV etc were inflicted upon them. I think Sarah Palins husband being a member of the AIP which was led by Joe Vogler who hated America is much more offensive to me
Cindy Mccain stealing charity money when she was on drugs and getting away with it is offensive to me
Posted by: Carramea55 | December 22, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
Tarag ….. I have no issue with Bill Ayers If Mccain could hang out with Gordon Liddy. Obama could hang with Ayers. I personally would have no issue having Mr. Ayers in my home. Rev Wright did you ever read the whole sermon ? America did bring hatred on itself. Rev Wright has issues I dont agree with but I know many African Americans who feel HIV etc were inflicted upon them. I think Sarah Palins husband being a member of the AIP which was led by Joe Vogler who hated America is much more offensive to me
Cindy Mccain stealing charity money when she was on drugs and getting away with it is offensive to me
Posted by: Carramea55 | December 22, 2008, 7:46 am 7:46 am
I wish we would just let this die. If he did anything wrong or not, I’m sure the investigation will show it. Speculating about this is a waste of time. Why can’t we just print news? Lord knows there is a lot of news out there not dealing with Obama. What did our country do before we had an Obama to worry about?
Posted by: Steve Smith | December 22, 2008, 7:47 am 7:47 am
RE: IQD
Welcome to the New America!….If you dare ask any questions about Obama, you are an ignorant, right wing, racist hick who yearns for Palin…..But this is the latest, and in my opinion, the worst case of journalistic pathos I have ever seen. I was outraged at the media during Reagans 84 re-election bid, the bashing of Quayle in 92, Clinton’s 92+96 runs, the Lewinsky scandal, Bush’s theft of the election in 2000 and most recently the 2003 invasion of Iraq (which was totally disgusting)….
But nothing has been as bad as the complete destruction of any objective journalistic code of ethics when it comes to the 2008 election of Barack Obama. There has been a squashing and ridiculing of any dissenting opinions and a total abandonment of even the most basic journalistic practises. Why is George Stephanoplous just accepting the Obama report about ONE phone call between Rahm and Blago. And now we are seeing it again in the anointment of Caroline Kennedy.
But don’t lose faith. It is more important than ever to speak up. So keep on “trucking” (sorry for the red-neck expression)
Posted by: opedanderson | December 22, 2008, 7:57 am 7:57 am
I friggin love to hear these Dems now complain about “conspiracy theories”, “leave Obama alone on this one”, “right-wing attack machine” etc. hahahahahahaha. For the last 8 years we’ve had to put up with: Bush is Hitler, Bush knew about 9-11, Bush started 9-11, Bush invaded Iraq so he could get rich, Bush wants to poison children, Bush caused hurricane Katrina, Bush knew about the levies being broken so minorities would die, and on and on and on and on. LET’S FACE FACTS: IF THIS STORY WERE ABOUT BUSH AND SOMEONE TRYING TO SELL THE GOVENORSHIP OF TEXAS AND HIS CHIEF OF STAFF WAS SOMEHOW INVOLVED, YOU DEMS WOULD BE FREAKING OUT RIGHT NOW AND MSNBC WOULD HAVE THE STORY RUNNING 24 HOURS A DAY! Now get back to your government job and your $72/hour fair wage.
Posted by: Sean in Orlando, FL | December 22, 2008, 8:02 am 8:02 am
I want journalist to report the news, not side with any politician. I want to know the facts, whether or not I voted for or againt a politician. How come no one else does? How can we be a free country if we put the politican above the constitution or law?
Posted by: Trisha | December 22, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
NO – you stupid northern IL /chicago upstate idiots, have ruined the state. we should have really pushed for sucession from chicago and the sounding areas. youre small time mobsters and i believe this pres-elect knew about it all. Blago is a gangsta-
Posted by: Jules so il | December 22, 2008, 8:05 am 8:05 am
Now there’s a surprise. A report authored by the Obama team clears the Obama team. Now of course we all “move on” as they say and the media should let poor Barack alone since he cannot be bothered by this distraction. The morning spin must emphasize that Obama does not know Blagojevich, he was just a governor in his neighborhood, and the fact that the same convicted felon Tony Rezko was a top fundraiser for both Blajojevich and Obama is just a coincidence and Obama is just too important now to worry about petty matters such as who replaces him in the Senate. What planet do you people live on? This is Chicago where everything has a deal attached to it. Obama is not going to try to influence who will fill his seat? Are you kidding? Emanuel is not going to try to influence who fills his House seat that Blagojevich held before him? Blagojevich is just going to give the Senate seat to some worthy citizen? The same news media that produced ten billion hours of stories on the alleged cost of Gov. Sarah Palin’s wardrobe is strangely not very curious about finding out exactly how the the former senator from Illinois and the governor of Illinois evaluated candidates for a successor to the senator. They are also not very curious about how Obama raised almost three-quarters of a billion dollars, much of it from overseas donors, and heaps praise on Obama for a mere rumor that he might give away the dirty cash to a charity. You can sell Saint Obama somewhere else. Those of you who think this typical Chicago pol is the Messiah now have a chance to live under city machine-style politics until January 2013. Have a good time.
Posted by: Patrick from Cook County | December 22, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
You are so ‘in bed’ with Obama, I wonder if you are his Monica.
Posted by: Robert | December 22, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
You are so ‘in bed’ with Obama, I wonder if you are his Monica.
Posted by: Robert | December 22, 2008, 8:21 am 8:21 am
This is much more serious then the Valarie Plame affair.
We need a Special Prosecutor with unlimited supeona powers to get to the bottom of this Illinois-Chicago crime wave.
Posted by: Ron Greene | December 22, 2008, 8:23 am 8:23 am
The truth will never be told and whatever is on tape will be “cleaned up” to avoid any suggestion of inpropriety? Of course the Nobamiacs will believe anything they are told by the Messiah anyway.
Posted by: BoobyB | December 22, 2008, 8:30 am 8:30 am
Stephannpolis is a Democrat Party man. He works with the party to push their agenda. Joke of a report. Expesct noting less from the corrupt Democrats.
Posted by: ultraa | December 22, 2008, 8:39 am 8:39 am
Stephannpolis is a Democrat Party man. He works with the party to push their agenda. Joke of a report. Expesct noting less from the corrupt Democrats.
Posted by: ultraa | December 22, 2008, 8:40 am 8:40 am
Stephannpolis is a Democrat Party man. He works with the party to push their agenda. Joke of a report. Expesct noting less from the corrupt Democrats.
Posted by: ultraa | December 22, 2008, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Leave Obama alone?? – people in the goverment work for us and we have a right to question them if we see things don’t add up!!
Posted by: latinandangry | December 22, 2008, 8:48 am 8:48 am
My concern is what will the Military do under the control of a illegal usurper? They can be held accountable for egregious acts perpetrated under his command if he’s found to be unqualified at a later date. Will they be so quick to stick their very venerable necks in the noose? As this issue is not going to layed to rest by legalism only a bona fide copy of his COLB is going to allay the issue to any degree. I’ve a feeling that Obama will not be able to administer in any way shape or form as every bill he signs will be challenged in court as to whether it’s is a truly legal document. In short Obama is going to divide the country into factions that is not going to present a United States at all. Some call it revolution, I think it’ll be more like civil war with no boundaries and no safe regions. Those presently serving in the congress will be…er…asked to hand in their expediated resignations and sent on to early retirement status along with their iconic PEBO imposter…seems the Koolaid and Pixie dust ain’t working no more!
Posted by: Hank G | December 22, 2008, 8:49 am 8:49 am
Thank you so much for your “bottom line” paragraph, George! You’ve done a wonderful job of gift-wrapping this story for the president-elect and anyone else who is dumb enough to believe one word that you have written. Your credibility is non-existent…
Posted by: John Dawson | December 22, 2008, 8:53 am 8:53 am
Last time the Repukes sounded so rabid, we spent 154 million of taxpayers cash to find out that two consenting adults had sex in the WH. Grow up and move on you Limpbah worshipping morons
Posted by: Cenrtal Scrutinizer | December 22, 2008, 8:57 am 8:57 am
bull crap. liar liar
Posted by: Sheila Rowe | December 22, 2008, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Cover-up Cover-up Cover-up
Cover-up Cover-up Cover-up
Lies Lies Lies
Pardon me: misspoke, forgot, Untruths, misinformed …. Cover-up
Posted by: Wayne | December 22, 2008, 9:02 am 9:02 am
George S. is a former Clintonite. He will never escape this tarnish. Why should the American public believe anything he says or writes?
Posted by: Les McDowell | December 22, 2008, 9:03 am 9:03 am
All this grousing from obvious Republican partisans is weak-knee sour grapes at its worst. The only thing these whiners can do after denying the truly obvious criminal wrongdoing of Bush/Cheney and the utter destruction of the country in their hands is turn Bush/Cheney’s failure into Obama’s before he’s president so that the mess he inherits after 8 long years of failure can be put on his shoulders. It’s transparent. I bet the majority of the Bush denial agents here don’t even get that they’re behaving like a cowering co-dependent abused wife to the Bush/Cheney bully figure they will do anything to uphold. Oh, mighty Bush/Cheney, we know you love us. Please love us. It’s that Obama’s fault. He made you do this to us.
Posted by: Mike | December 22, 2008, 9:10 am 9:10 am
think it is very funny that all of you Kool Aid drinkers like to fault G.W. on the state of the finacial mess that we are in. I do believe that your Democratic congress has been in office for over two years..
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Rodney,
Actually, the Dem Congress has been in control for 4 years and created the financial mess through the following actions:
a) Pushed Fannie and Freddie to make risky loans – this actually started under Carter with the Community Reinvestment Act
b) Pushed Fannie and Freddie into the risk sub-prime market – under Clinton
c) Stopped the Repubs from reforming Fannie and Freddie – several bills were shot down
d) Allowed their Wall Street buddies to bundle the risky loans into risky derivatives – remember, Obama received the most Wall Street funding
e) The above drove the housing bubble – when it collapsed, everything went down.
All of the above doesn’t matter, however, the media says “Its Bush’s Fault” (as they usually do) and Dems have dumbed downed most of Amerika.
I understand the above facts, however, as a liberal, I am OK with it – we do need more risky home ownership even if it kills the economy. The rich have their own homes, why not the rest of us? Plus, I don’t really want to work hard for a home – I would rather have it given to me.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 22, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
Leaked transcript has Rahm in a conversation that may bring more CHANGE to this whole story
Posted by: Rodriguez | December 22, 2008, 9:15 am 9:15 am
I was wondering if this happened 8 years ago to President-elect George Bush, would the tenor of these messages have been changed?
Imagine the Rebulicans saying: “leave the poor guy alone”! You’d have every Democrat yelling “cover-up!” from the top of every rooftop!
Posted by: Brian G | December 22, 2008, 9:16 am 9:16 am
Can’t we just let this Blago thing go and get back to the real news? Like Sarah Palin’s wardrobe or her daughter’s fiancee’s mother’s drug bust. Come on people!
Posted by: Jake | December 22, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
It’s never the deed, but it’s ALWAYS the cover up.
Party’s over before it’s started.
Posted by: Pedro | December 22, 2008, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Hey Ultraa 8:40 a.m., it’s time to wake up! We Americans need to NOT just ask questions, but dig until we uncover the truths. We have been lied to by our elected officials far too many times. We have been cheated by our elected officials far too many times.
We Americans need to take our country back and return it to the what it once was: truth, honor, supporting our military, integrity, morals, GOD, Merry Christmas, duty…… GOD.
People are sick, sick and tired of those who do not take responsibilities and accountability for their actions.
People (the working people) are sick, sick and tired of paying of paying for golden parachutes, cheating, scandal after scandal , after scandal. Lies and cover-ups !!!!!!!!!!!
We need more Rush Limbaugh’s and Shawn Hannity’s and people who stand up for America.
Posted by: wayne | December 22, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
All you Right Wingers,
You need to leave Obama alone. Yes, he has Chicago Machine ties like Rezko, Daley and radical affiliations like Wright, Pleger, Ayers and Dhorn; however, Amerika spoke and Obama won.
We know his flaws and have accepted them – the greater good is that he will be transferring more money from the rich to us (that is why I vote for Socialists).
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 22, 2008, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Obama and Blago had a cozy enough relationship if you recall that Mrs Blago arranged a sweeetheart deal for Obama on his Chicago house. He got someone ( a known fraudster and another friend of Obama) to buy the garden portion (now useless) of the property deal so that Obama could afford the dwelling portion. This little gem has not been published in any North American papers that I know of, I got it from a European publication. Weird, what!
Posted by: Patrick | December 22, 2008, 9:25 am 9:25 am
It astounds me how the Democrats get caught with their hands in the cookie jar and there is no personal responsibility just like this recession the United States is in has been coming since Jimmy Carter and pushing subprime mortgages for people with no docks and they cannot pay. The Democratic Congress was watching over the Fannie and Freddie and skimming the millions in bonus payments by cooking the books. The “only one TELEPHONE call” statement was released after Obama team went through all the records and confirmed what he could say. This is typical Chicago style politics. I’m surprised they don’t blame the hole thing on some dead guy. Notice how the transition team got in there and stoped the tape the day before King was going to give Blogo “something up front” to make this happen. This is a typical relieve yourself on my leg and tell me it’s raining.
Posted by: M. Rogers | December 22, 2008, 9:36 am 9:36 am
Media outlets like ABC are merely extensions of the DNC, after all these reporters have all worked for democrats in some capacity. Fitzgerald, another democrat, called a halt to the survellance to cut the trail to Washington. There needs to be an investigation of this entire operation but the media would distort the facts there as well. They are all crooks.
Posted by: Alfred Neuman | December 22, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
What did Obam know and when did he know it?
What did Emanuel know and when did he know it?
Did the cover up for Blago? A cover up is a crime.
Posted by: taphonomic | December 22, 2008, 9:38 am 9:38 am
If Obama and Emanuel are so squeekly, how come they have been dodging question for so long? This is just getting interesting.
Posted by: James | December 22, 2008, 9:39 am 9:39 am
The economy is in shambles thanks to congress so what is their response? A pay raise to themselves! They should be recalled. Crooks
Posted by: Alfred Neuman | December 22, 2008, 9:42 am 9:42 am
You’ve got to love people like Carramea55..
Bomb buildings and kill cops.. no problem, you can come hang out with me. Get pain pills from a charity you donate millions to and you’re satan. Liberals are an amusing bunch..
Posted by: howwouldiknow | December 22, 2008, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Jesus help us? Are you people suffering from mental disorders? It’s as if you are pooing on yourself to make this a scandal. Almost like you are on your knees praying for it? CLEARLY the Obama team is “up &up”. No pay for play. “All you get is appreciation.” Why do you necons take that sentence and equate it to “watergate”. What controversy is hidden in “you get nothing but thanks” – C’mon folks, I know you are led by your ears via hannity & Rush, but your scandal prayers seem childish and silly….and rather dumb.
Posted by: NatTurner | December 22, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
You people are all a bunch of sheeple.
Don’t you know by now that all politicians are corrupt, no matter who you vote for.
People lie and always will, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Father Michael Flager, Minister Lewis Farrakhan. If you really want the truth, open and read the Bible.
Posted by: Quazimoto | December 22, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Let’s see—
When the Fox, who was in charge of the henhouse, was asked to investigate the disappearance of the hens, he said, “I have conducted a through internal review, and I can tell you that I have found that I am not involved at all in their disappearance.”
Hmmm
Posted by: Radish | December 22, 2008, 9:47 am 9:47 am
How can BO’s team’s report hold any credibility? Sure, his team is going to report that they had no wrong doing. Come on, people, this is like giving the keys of the hen house to the fox. I want to hear what Blago has to say!!!
Posted by: Mary-Beth Frazee | December 22, 2008, 9:48 am 9:48 am
All, I saw a conservative state that the major media outlets are pro-Obama:
ABC = “Accelerating Barack’s Career”
NBC = “Nuther Barack Channel”
CBS = “Carrying Barack’s Suitcases”
I find this very naive, of course the media promoted Barack’s career – 90% vote democratic and most are self-described liberals per the Pew polls.
Conservatives are simply way behind the game – Fox and Talk Radio reach only 10% of our media team.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 22, 2008, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Obama’s Choice of Pastor Warren a ‘Mistake,’ Barney Frank Says
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By Justin Blum
Dec. 21 (Bloomberg) — President-elect Barack Obama shouldn’t have selected Rick Warren to deliver the inaugural invocation because the evangelical pastor has made offensive comments about gays, said Representative Barney Frank.
“Giving that kind of mark of approval and honor to someone who has frankly spoken in ways I and many others have found personally very offensive, I thought that was a mistake for the president-elect to do,” said Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat, today on CNN’s “Late Edition.”
Frank, who is openly gay, made the comments after Obama stood by his selection of Warren for the Jan. 20 inauguration. Obama, speaking at a Dec. 18 news conference, said he doesn’t share Warren’s views on gay rights and wants to create an atmosphere “where we can disagree without being disagreeable and then focus on those things that we hold in common as Americans.”
Warren, author of “The Purpose Driven Life” and founder of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, has drawn criticism from gay rights groups for his opposition to same-sex marriage.
Warren didn’t return a message left on his voice mail at the church. He has defended himself by saying he loves “gays and straights,” according to the Associated Press.
To contact the reporter on this story: Justin Blum in Washington at jblum4@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: December 21, 2008 15:31 EST
Posted by: Wayne | December 22, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Come on ! ! !
It’s just Chicago politics… Resco, Blago, Emmanuel, Daley, Ayers, Dorn, Wright, Obama…
Hey!
Yo got a problem?
Posted by: Howard Ino | December 22, 2008, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Don’t worry all you liberals out there. If your worried about how we are treating “YOUR” Prez, just remember this one tidbit of info. We, meaning us “right wingers”, were taught in great detail how to treat a president by you “left wingers” the last 8 years.
So let the games begin. PREZ SELECT OBAMA IS A LYING SACK OF &#*!. HE’S IN THIS UP TO HIS EYES. IMPEACH THIS RACIST, BLACK, HATE MONGER. HOPE SOMEONE MAKES A MOVIE ABOUT HIS ASSASINATION, ALTHOUGH IT HASN’T HAPPENED, YET. CAN’T WAIT TO ONE OF THOSE BIG EARED OBAMA HATS. AND I’M SURE WE’LL NEVER GET THE SMELL OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. This is going to be fun!!!
Posted by: Vince | December 22, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Repukes are wonderful at making crap up, then calling it truth that liberal reporters won’t print. Obama has once again shown his strength by feeding rope to repuke idiots then cutting it as they dangle. There is a reason the Obama people were not part of Fitz’s indictment….there was and is nothing to indict just as Saddam had no WMD’s, no Nukes, was not involved in 9/11, etc.
The gutter press and repuke psycos aside 10 Billion a month for six years to perpetrate a hoax for war seems a bit much.
Posted by: qcdude3 | December 22, 2008, 9:52 am 9:52 am
I’m sure all the folks who were eager for the Valerie Plame “incident” to be investigated for months will be just as eager for this investigation to go on for months. And I’m sure they’ll be just as eager for Fitzgerald to prosecute anyone who attempted to mislead investigators, whether or not any actual crimes were committed.
For all those folks saying there’s no connection between Blago and Obama. Are you also going to claim that Rahm and Blago had no relationship? Emanuel was a close advisor to Rod’s re-election campaign.
I think the Chicago papers are doing a pretty good job documenting this story.
Posted by: Matt Dooley | December 22, 2008, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Emanuel’s calls were caught on wiretap. We will then know if Obama’s and Emanuel lie. I think Obama will lie cause he is a major liar. I have caught him in so many lies during the campaign and at he even lied 3 times about his own family. The media glossed over his lying as they glossed over everything else about him. I predict that Obama’s Presidency will be filled with one unfavorable relevation about him after another because our corrupt media didn’t do their homework on a guy we didn’t know anything about. So now we will have to find out about him the hard way. It’s too bad too, because our country desperately needs a President with some balls who will go in an solve our problems and not someone who will endulge in yet more corrupt betrayal. But, I am from Illinois where we are trying to get rid of our corrupt governor, Blagovich, who refuses to do the right thing for Illinois and resign. So I don’t have any confidence in government and I don’t pin my hopes on Obama who crawled up from the same corrupt slime pit as Blagovich, Chicago.
Posted by: enyaw | December 22, 2008, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Turn about is fair play, kool aid drinkers. The Democrats and their friends in the media dogged Bush for the last 8 years. They found fault with everything that he did. Somehow found fault with the fact that the U.S. has not been attacked in 7 years. Don’t complain now that your guy is in office. The next four years will be fun!!
Posted by: jjrich | December 22, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Turn about is fair play, kool aid drinkers. The Democrats and their friends in the media dogged Bush for the last 8 years. They found fault with everything that he did. Somehow found fault with the fact that the U.S. has not been attacked in 7 years. Don’t complain now that your guy is in office. The next four years will be fun!!
Posted by: jjrich | December 22, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Only one phone call. OK, I’ll buy that. But how many calls between aides, how many face-to-faces, etc. were there when this was discussed? Blago is a crook, Rahm is a crook and Obama is a crook. What do you expect when you start playing with Chicago politicians? I am going to laugh for the next four years until Obama is kicked out on his lying, cheating rear end!!!!
Posted by: Chicago Ted | December 22, 2008, 9:58 am 9:58 am
In the end this will be just another coverup by the liberals. They have too much at stake. Why would the press change their reporting all of the sudden when they have not told the truth about BHO for the entire canpaign? I get the biggest kick out of liberals now when they say “hey, just report the facts and it will show there was no involvement between the incoming admin and Chicago polotical machine”!!! Shoes on the other foot now.
Posted by: reddog | December 22, 2008, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Well – if “Obama’s” OWN office and internal investigation says no one is guilty of anything, then by Gosh that should be good enough for everyone!
I mean, who are the American people to question The Almighty Obama’s relationships? Next you all will be questioning his experience, his factual place of birth, and wanting to see all those college transcripts which he’s worked so hard to hide.
Now stop being so bloody racist!
Posted by: eddie | December 22, 2008, 10:05 am 10:05 am
I just love the Obamaheads who are WHINING about their pick getting picked on after sitting silently while their fellow Dems called Bush every name under the sun. I didn’t vote for the man but you will never find me stooping to the level of vitriol and immaturity that their fellow Dems did. He is the Commander of Chief of MY country and that position deserves respect. Too bad the hypcritical Dems don’t have ANY class to have done the same. I’ll just sit by and watch. Frankly, I don’t think he was guilty but would love to see Blago go down. He probably didn’t do anything different that other politicians do, but was stupid enough to be so blatant.
Posted by: FLGal | December 22, 2008, 10:06 am 10:06 am
I have been kind of on the outskirts of the political scene here in Chicago for a couple years now and what I can say is that there are basically two factions. Those in favor of machine politics and those not in favor of machine politics. I fall into the latter category and Blagojevich is why. Blago is the direct result of Machine politics that favors people over substance and favors over policies. Mike and Lisa Madigan have no one but themselves to blame for Blagos rude and corrupt behavior. Obama, I am sure, was smart enough not to get involved and even smarter to turn his back on illinois as it is a quagmire of deceipt and corruption. Obmam Represents one of the few politicians in Illnois who have managed to keep there neck above the muck of springfield and city hall. Hopefully one day the people of illinois will be smart enough to throw all these bums out of springfield and we can start running this state on reason instead of favors and corruption.
Posted by: Rational Obama Suporter | December 22, 2008, 10:15 am 10:15 am
“CLINTON ADMINISTRATION II”
ANOTHER ETHICALLY CHALLENGED ADMINISTRATION
Posted by: JAMIE | December 22, 2008, 10:16 am 10:16 am
When are people going to realize we have now moved Cook County Government to DC. This type of politics goes opn all the time in Chicago. Look at Congressman Giuterrez the 36 alderman that have been found guilty of bribes and kickbacks. When Blago was campaiging during his first governor race he called for “Change” helped by Rahm and Obama. Does this sound familar.
Posted by: JP | December 22, 2008, 10:17 am 10:17 am
This is typical of the liberal dog Stephanopoulos manipulating the news to cover obama’s a$$. He has his nose so far up the messiah’s butt that you will never hear the truth pertaining to anything about this administration. Just keep listening to the socialistic media and I am sure you will hear what you want to hear.
Posted by: PML | December 22, 2008, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Is it true that the Clintons have Barack Hussein’s real birth certificate? The one that has him born in Kenya, exactly where his own Grandmother (the black one, not the typical white one) and Sister say they witnessed.
That may explain why Barry is loading “his” cabinet with Clintonistas.
Real “Change” all right. LOL!
Posted by: xXAlexXx | December 22, 2008, 10:20 am 10:20 am
You are 100% Correct!
“CLINTON ADMINISTRATION II”
ANOTHER ETHICALLY CHALLENGED ADMINISTRATION
Posted by: enyaw | December 22, 2008, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Rational Obama Suporter : Come again? Obama kept himself above it? I think not! You don’t keep the financial “support” from people like Tony Rezko without being neck deep in the corruption.
Posted by: howwouldiknow | December 22, 2008, 10:24 am 10:24 am
Also there’s an obvious reason most reporters are more liberal. They can actually READ. They are actually better informed about most subjects being written about in the press and they get really tired of neocon christian whining about everything by idiot repukes that believe in the pick pick pick theory of government.
Posted by: qcdude3 | December 22, 2008, 10:26 am 10:26 am
And how much was Blagojevich looking to get for Emanuel’s House seat? Who was Rahm suggesting to keep his chair warm? “A house seat is !@#%&? worth something. You don’t ?&%^$@#$! give something like that away for &#@*! free!” Gotta love Chicago politics. Just like Boston politics. Crooked as hell.
Posted by: Ralphie | December 22, 2008, 10:32 am 10:32 am
PEOPLE,DEMOCRATES,REPUBLICANS, LEFT OR RIGHT. STAY ON TRACK. THE POINT IS, IF OBAMA NEW BLAGO WAS WANTING “APPRECIATION” FOR THE SENATE SEAT (PAY TO PLAY), OBAMA SHOULD HAVE NOTIFIED THE FBI. REMEMBER, TRANSPERACY IS WHAT WE WANT AS AMERICANS.
Posted by: Scotty | December 22, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am
What a joke. Obama investigates his own staff and says they didn’t do anything wrong. And we’re supposed to believe him?
Posted by: Scott | December 22, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
“We in Illinois know this. He did campaign for him , in 2002 but that is because Raymond Burress his first choice didnt get the nod.” from Carramea
Carramea get your facts straight before you spread dis-information,it was ROLAND BURRIS. We who actually live in CENTRAL ILLINOIS know to never vote for a Chicago Politician but always get them crammed down our throats by the giant,corrupt Chicago Machine.
‘Just say no to Chi-Pols”
JosePheltez
Posted by: josepheltez | December 22, 2008, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Is anyone stupid enough to believe that Obama is the only virgin in the whorehouse?
Posted by: Stark Raving Liberal | Dec 22, 2008 12:20:23 AM
HaHaHa!!!!
Posted by: Jeff Fish | December 22, 2008, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Obama has already stated that none of his staff had any conversations with the governor of Illinois. Of course Obama is a citizen because he posted a birth certificate on his website and Obama validated it himself. Of course Obama traveled to Pakistan in the 80′s with a US passport when no other American could because he is special. Obama sat in Jeremiah Wright’s church for twenty years because Obama told everybody he does not agree with Wright’s sermons. When Bill Ayers was bombing buildings, Obama told us he was only eight years old. When Obama purchased his house with Tony Rezko, Obama told us it was a bone headed decision, but everything was ok now. Obama’s campaign money came from reliable sources because Obama said it did. Obama doesn’t think we need to see his college records because he says so. Obama doesn’t think we need to investigate Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae or the current democrat Congress because he said so. And now somebody has the audacity to question Obama or his staff’s connections to Chicago. How dare they. I mean, what else do you need folks? Obama said so. Case closed dummies.
Posted by: debbie | December 22, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Obama has already stated that none of his staff had any conversations with the governor of Illinois. Of course Obama is a citizen because he posted a birth certificate on his website and Obama validated it himself. Of course Obama traveled to Pakistan in the 80′s with a US passport when no other American could because he is special. Obama sat in Jeremiah Wright’s church for twenty years because Obama told everybody he does not agree with Wright’s sermons. When Bill Ayers was bombing buildings, Obama told us he was only eight years old. When Obama purchased his house with Tony Rezko, Obama told us it was a bone headed decision, but everything was ok now. Obama’s campaign money came from reliable sources because Obama said it did. Obama doesn’t think we need to see his college records because he says so. Obama doesn’t think we need to investigate Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae or the current democrat Congress because he said so. And now somebody has the audacity to question Obama or his staff’s connections to Chicago. How dare they. I mean, what else do you need folks? Obama said so. Case closed dummies.
Posted by: debbie | December 22, 2008, 10:42 am 10:42 am
“Why won’t Barack produce an actual 1961 birth certificate?”
Maybe because he’s already satisfied the FEC and he’s got more important things to do than appease the tin-foilers coming at him from the right? If it wasn’t the birth certificate, it would be something else.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
qcdude3
How about taking a class on grammar and syntax! [No that's not another word for Chicago fees!]
Posted by: Doug | December 22, 2008, 10:43 am 10:43 am
“Obama has already stated that none of his staff had any conversations with the governor of Illinois.”
No, he said HE didn’t have any conversations. Please get it straight if you’re going to insist on speaking publicly. Misinformation campaigns from the right really need to stop.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
I only had sex with her once, honey!
Posted by: kipp | December 22, 2008, 10:45 am 10:45 am
“In the course of that conversation, Harris asked if in return for picking Jarrett, “all we get is appreciation, right?” “Right,” Emanuel responded.”
I don’t know the whole context of this related to the conversation the men were having. However, I also don’t understand why Rod’s CofS would ask this question in the first place unless there was some type of negotiation between Rahm and him in the past concerning a type of “quid pro quo”.
I don’t want to go all conspiracy theory here, but does anyone else think this is a strange question to ask at any point in a conversation about the Senat seat? I mean,it could be inferred just by the question that Rahm knew that some type of “pay to play” operation was going on with the gov’s office and that Harris at least was aware that the Obama admin wasn’t playing ball. If Rahm wasn’t involved in any negotiations like this, why would Harris even ask Rahm to confirm “all we get is appreciation”?
The question is both leading and weird. Thoughts?
Lastly, George writes that report will show “that Obama officials were not open to any kind of deal for the Obama Senate seat”.
Okay, so they weren’t “open” to any kind of deal. That doesn’t mean they weren’t aware of any deal making going on. If they were, whoever knew, had an obligation to report it. If they knew and didn’t report it, they were allowing a crime to continue to take place. Regardless, if they knew and did nothing, that isn’t good.
Posted by: Seeking Answers | December 22, 2008, 10:47 am 10:47 am
I forgot to mention that when Obama is inaugurated he will then have the power to fire Fitzgerald. Do you think Obama will get rid of Fitzgerald for investigating all his friends in Chicago? Whatever Obama decides is quite alright with democrats.
Posted by: debbie | December 22, 2008, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Blago has all the AMMUNITION to bring OBAMA CLAN down!!!!!!
Posted by: John | December 22, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
qcdude3: If you weren’t so stupid you’d be funny. I’m impressed that you’ve figured out that the media can read. Too bad they don’t understand what they read. It’s also interesting how you make the point that they’re well acquainted with what’s being written in the media. Since they’re the ones doing the writing, one would hope they would be. I’m not sure how you make the leap from that to believing that everything they write is correct (Dewey Defeats Truman) but since deep research for you probably involves a quick glance at Wikipedia one can see how you would believe pretty much anything.
By all means please continue to consider anyone other than yourself and the few uninformed, narrow-minded dolts who agree with you as neocon, christian, warmongering, baby-eating, animal torturing, globe warming boogie men. It will make life simple enough for even you to understand.
Posted by: Ralphie | December 22, 2008, 10:49 am 10:49 am
Way to go George, protecting Obamuh as best you can.
Took them long enough to develop their angle. Glad we didn’t settle for Nixon investigating himself.
What did Obamuh know and when did he know it?
Posted by: DRH | December 22, 2008, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Obama called Rev. Wright his Spiritual Mentor of 20yrs and a member of his family before throwing Wright under the bus.
Obama called Tony Rezko his long-time friend before throwing him under the bus.
Obama conducted business with, Bill & Bernadine Dohrn Ayers, and Louis Farrakhan before throwing them under the bus.
Obama even threw his indigent Aunt who contributed to his Presidential campaign and was found to be in the U.S. illegally under the bus.
And now, we find that “The Anointed One” also supported Blagojevich in his first gubernatorial election just a couple of years ago.
Either poor little Obama has THE absolute worst luck of any politician, of he’s THE biggest fraud thrust upon the the American public in recent history.
Good luck ObaManiacs – you, and the rest of the country, are going to need it!
Posted by: stooey | December 22, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
“We have investigated ourselves thoroughly and have come to the conclusion that Rahm only gave some expletive advice to the Blago” Got that Georgie?
Posted by: N_erdowell | December 22, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am
When will those moronic lefties wise up to the fact that Obama could possibly be the biggest fraud to become POTUS.
Posted by: John Biden | December 22, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am
What an eff’ng joke. Everyone knows Obama’s as filthy as Blago and the rest of the little incestual gang in Chicago. What lengths the little fanboys like Georgie et al will go to protect the object of their jungle fever.
Welcome to the era of make-believe.
Posted by: jokerjokerandatriple | December 22, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
I for one did not vote for Obama however he seems like a nice fellow and I’m willing to give him the same kind of leeway, courtesy, and wonderful treatment that the Democrats have shown President Bush over the past 8 years. It seems only prudent that one would do so in this economic and political environment that we are in.
Posted by: Rigoman33 | December 22, 2008, 11:05 am 11:05 am
You Obama supporters are so funny! Shoes not quite as much fun when it’s on the other foot, is it? After the last 8 years of listening to your whining, conspiracies and out and out nastiness, I’m having a blast watching your near hysterics when someone questions your messiah! Buck up little campers, the fun is only beginning!
Posted by: linnilu | December 22, 2008, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Obama is a creature of the Chicago political machine. ABCNews can protect him all they like, but eventually people will begin to realize what’s going on. The liberally-biased media ensured that Obama was elected, they will protect him until for as long as they can. Hopefully, that it won’t be too late.
Posted by: Accountability | December 22, 2008, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Liberal Democrats cant handle the fact that 60 million Americans disagree with them and dont like Obama and his crew!!!
Posted by: as if | December 22, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
The press will not pursue anything related to Obama, he is their darling…for now! Don’t expect a Democtrat controlled congress to investigate anything either. The handling of this incident by Obama is telling. Initially he stated “no contact” with Blago. Then said he, himself had “no contact” with Blago. The story changed. Obama is good with words, they are carefully parsed, unless he doesn’t have a teleprompter, then he stutters and stammers. Fasten your seat belts, it’s going to be a bumpy ride!
Posted by: Doug | December 22, 2008, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Whatever. Delay, deflect, stall, refuse to answer questions, leak false info.,parse words.
Typical political bullsh*t. Obama and company are just typical bullsh*t politicians, that’s all.
Posted by: Mr. Scooter Jones | December 22, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am
BOBO is a fraud. He hates the constitution and will try to negate it. Our country is in serious trouble and the whole world knows it. We are controlled by the committees that owns the media. Good Grief
Posted by: candid | December 22, 2008, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Why would anyone believe anything George S. has to say. He worked for Clinton. How this guy is considered a “journalist” is beyond me, then again, looking at NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, LA Times, NY Times, Chicago Trib, etc., he does qualify as a journalist.
Posted by: leebo | December 22, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Why would anyone believe anything George S. has to say. He worked for Clinton. How this guy is considered a “journalist” is beyond me, then again, looking at NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, LA Times, NY Times, Chicago Trib, etc., he does qualify as a journalist.
Posted by: leebo | December 22, 2008, 11:36 am 11:36 am
Nice to see that Stephanopoulos is still working as White House Press Secretary. Honestly, how can anyone expect this man to report objectively on his Clinton Administration friends?
Posted by: Tom F | December 22, 2008, 11:39 am 11:39 am
The Right Wing, is just itching for a gotcha on Obama. Fagetaboutit. Not gonna happen.
Instead, focus on improving our country from the Bush disaster and rally around the new President.
Posted by: Nick | December 22, 2008, 11:42 am 11:42 am
“This is much more serious then the Valarie Plame affair.”
Oh please. Cheney sending that kind of warning shot at the CIA is WAY out of line.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
George, Obama won the election. You can stop campaigning for him and go back to Bush bashing……..
Posted by: Richie Rich | December 22, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
**Hey Nick**
No we will not rally around Obama!!!! We’ll treat him like you treated Bush, only there is alot more of us. Obama will be hated by the 50 to 80 million that dont like him and dont believe his lies and did’nt vote for him….
Posted by: not so | December 22, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Nick, Sweetie, we are rallying around the new president. Just like you guys did in 2001. By the way, are you done with your ‘Not MY President’ bumper sticker yet? And if so, may I borrow it for about 4 years?
Posted by: Linnilu | December 22, 2008, 11:50 am 11:50 am
“Only One Rahm Call to Governor” How many from the Govenor to Rahm?
Posted by: Kevin | December 22, 2008, 11:52 am 11:52 am
Drudge must have linked again. What a miserable group of people you are. How about letting the US Attorneys office do it’s job. There is no evidence of any link to Obama. So, until there is, you just sound bitter and silly.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
“there is not one bit of evidence, that Obama or anyone from his staff tried to pay the creep off.” But they knew he was looking for a payoff and didn’t notify the AG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Kevin | December 22, 2008, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Team Obama isn’t the well-oiled machine the media portrayed it to be….imagine that. I find it amazing that out of the corrupt political landscape of Chicago St.Barack of Obama emerges completely clean and innocent. What are the odds?
Posted by: Superpower | December 22, 2008, 11:55 am 11:55 am
“Obama will be hated by the 50 to 80 million that dont like him and dont believe his lies and did’nt vote for him….”
No, he won’t. He’ll be “hated” by morons, considering there is nothing dirty on him, it’s completely irrational to have such feelings. The reasons for the left “hating” Bush were very real and involved many people dying, children being made motherless/fatherless, and more.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
If Obama didn’t Wright was a racist and Ayers was a terrostist, how can you expect him to know the govenor was a crook …. the sergant shultz defense
Posted by: Kevin | December 22, 2008, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that global warming is a total lie just like Obama. Snow in LasVegas, minus 30 in Chicago, minus 10 in NewYork, yea the earth is getting wamer and Obama will save us all?????
Posted by: not so | December 22, 2008, 11:59 am 11:59 am
CARREMA
The bailout funds were pushed through by clowns like you (liberals) so before you speak do a little research. You people need to wake up! The current political system in this country is designed to keep us (working class) arguing with eachother so we don’t notice the Democrats and Republicans alike are taking our freedoms and our lives away from us!! We must stand together!
Posted by: Aaron C | December 22, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
The Obama/Media team wants *YOU* to know that they did not participate in Blago’s selling of the senate seat…
THAT is NOT the problem, the real crime is that Rahm *KNEW* Blago was selling the seat – and did NOTHING about it!
It is disgraceful that such actions occur, even more disgraceful when others IGNORE the behavior for the good of the party. Thank God for wiretaps!
Posted by: Kevin | December 22, 2008, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
**Silky**
You are simply full of it!! Obama will get the same treatment or worse for 4 years, count on it. Treat others as you would like to be treated,remember?? Judgeing how Bush was treated you want Obama to be hated to the extreem!!
Posted by: not so | December 22, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
It’s not if his guilty it’s the power of the charge. Thats what we have been living with for 8 years and you cry babys have the b#$ls to cut us down for giving your own dose of your med’s. AT LEAST 4 MORE YEAR BABY. we will dog every move he makes. every women he speaks to every bathroom he have sex in(that just the kind of sh#t i’m talking about)you were warnded
Posted by: kevin | December 22, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
It’s not if his guilty it’s the power of the charge. Thats what we have been living with for 8 years and you cry babys have the b#$ls to cut us down for giving your own dose of your med’s. AT LEAST 4 MORE YEAR BABY. we will dog every move he makes. every women he speaks to every bathroom he have sex in(that just the kind of sh#t i’m talking about)you were warnded
Posted by: kevin | December 22, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
“You are simply full of it!! Obama will get the same treatment or worse for 4 years, count on it.”
Actually, he won’t. He’s polling very well. Those of you crying like babies are a small minority.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
**Silky**
Keep dreaming!!! Obama’s already a failure…
Posted by: not so | December 22, 2008, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
“Keep dreaming!!! Obama’s already a failure…”
How so?
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
Is Michelle proud of her country yet?
Posted by: M | December 22, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Christmas message from Limbaugh and Hannity. Thank all of you right winger’s, without your ignorance and support, we wouldn’t exist.
Posted by: Al-obama | December 22, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
THE ‘THUGS’ WERE AND STILL IS IN WASHINGTON. REMEMBER THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT SADDAM HAD…WHERE IS THE MONEY BUSH AND CHENEY! IF YOU HAVEN’T LIVED IN CHICAGO, DO NOT SPECULATE! DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT NO OTHER STATE HAS CONRUPTION IN IT’S POLITICS. THE FEDERAL PROSECUTION DOESN’T IMPLICATE OBAMA OR EMANUEL RAHM. SUCK IT UP, LIKE YOU RERUBLICANS DID WITH YOUR PERVERTED SENATORS THAT WENT LOOKING FOR “LITTLE BOYS’. OH, I FORGOT THAT’S NORMAL FOR YOU.
Posted by: sara wilson | December 22, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
team obama knew about the payoff and did not do anything to prevent it. we are in for the dirtiest 4 years since the clintons,
Posted by: catman | December 22, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Seeking Answers Wrote:
“In the course of that conversation, Harris asked if in return for picking Jarrett, “all we get is appreciation, right?” “Right,” Emanuel responded.”
I don’t know the whole context of this related to the conversation the men were having. However, I also don’t understand why Rod’s CofS would ask this question in the first place unless there was some type of negotiation between Rahm and him in the past concerning a type of “quid pro quo”.
I don’t want to go all conspiracy theory here, but does anyone else think this is a strange question to ask at any point in a conversation about the Senat seat? I mean,it could be inferred just by the question that Rahm knew that some type of “pay to play” operation was going on with the gov’s office and that Harris at least was aware that the Obama admin wasn’t playing ball. If Rahm wasn’t involved in any negotiations like this, why would Harris even ask Rahm to confirm “all we get is appreciation”?
The question is both leading and weird. Thoughts?
………………………………….
I agree Seeking Answers. This is a very odd, leading question. Doesn’t make any sense for the question to have been asked, especially in such manner in a supposedly private, one-on-one phone call. Makes me strongly think that Harris and Rahm knew by this point in time that their call was being recorded and that they were basically trying to create exculpatory evidence — something they both could point to later as evidence of innocence of any pay-for-play. Few have recognized the strong possibility that Obama became aware of the wire taping of the Governor’s office on account of someone in the FBI or district attorneys office tipping off someone close to the President Elect. There is much more to come on all of this, I’m afraid.
Posted by: kd | December 22, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
How soon before we can begin impeachment hearings for Obama?
Posted by: MikeC | December 22, 2008, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Obama is guilty as hell. Free as a bird. What a great country. Oh I’m sorry that was Bill Ayers that said that while stomping an Amerikan flag. The Obamanator is a TRAITOR just like the rest of the left. You can be judged by the company you keep. It’s just the left has judged these traitors to be honorable. Go figure.
Posted by: Vince | December 22, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
As a republican fed up with both sides, I can honestly say I hope and pray the Obama presidency will be chalk-full of reason and positive leadership. However, as an ex-Illinoian, having been born and raised there, I am of the belief that anyone with integrity and good common sense left as I did long ago. As far as I can see, Illinois machine politics as usual.
Posted by: David S | December 22, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
“Obama is guilty as hell.”
Oh yeah? Whatcha got?
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Stephen said: “The Precidency is busy as it is already. Let’s focus on how to save this country from the Bush mess. There is no time for speculation…just report facts.”
First it is the Presidency, not Precidency. Second, I’m sure you were not one of the people who were speculating about all that Bush was doing (torture, planning 9/11, etc…) and preventing the country and Bush, the President, from getting his job done the last 8 years. No…I’m sure you weren’t.
Also, how come we learned nothing about Obama during the run up to the election? The media didn’t want any facts about Obama known, just their pre-made BS about how great he was…even though he’s never run a lemonade stand in his life.
Third, Obama is not President yet!!!!
Posted by: John | December 22, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Let imagine what the outrage would be if the Bush Aminastration did an investagation on themselves.
The dems would have a Cow. Oh well how soon the forget.
Posted by: Randy | December 22, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
What hypocrisy! Get off of Obama’s case? After 8 years of Bush being bashed for everything imaginable? Fat chance. The truth will come out one way or the other. If Obama is innocent- if we are following the liberal protocol with Bush – he should be blamed anyways. Isn’t that what you did and are busy doing to Bush? Now you want Obama to be treated with kid gloves!! Hypocrites!!
Posted by: csmith | December 22, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
LOL
Look at all the repubs just drooling for some type of connection between Obama and Blago.
GIVE IT UP LOSERS !!!
AND TAKE THOSE RIDICULOUS MCCAIN/PALIN SIGNS DOWN. They make you look even MORE like a bunch of morons.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA …
Posted by: Order | December 22, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
How comforting to find out that Obama’s Inside Investigation has cleared his man. I guess there is no need for any further investigation by outside sources. I hear all the Obamabots saying to leave Obama alone and let him govern. yeah, right, the same way you lefties left Bush alone from the moment he was elected in 2000. Payback is **ll.
Posted by: Starkgranger | December 22, 2008, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
How comforting to find out that Obama’s Inside Investigation has cleared his man. I guess there is no need for any further investigation by outside sources. I hear all the Obamabots saying to leave Obama alone and let him govern. yeah, right, the same way you lefties left Bush alone from the moment he was elected in 2000. Payback is **ll.
Posted by: Starkgranger | December 22, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
what did you expect from Obama- when he does his own investigating- the truth-lol
Posted by: terri | December 22, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
SCOTUS – CONGRESS – SENATE – GET OFF YOU LAZY A#% AND DO YOUR JOB FOR A CHANGE – FOR ONCE EARN YOUR OVER INFLATED INCOMES – DISALLOW OR IMPEACH BEFORE MILLIONS MORE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE SPENT FOR A FARSE INAUGURATION
Posted by: lotzahair | December 22, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
What a croc….Obama is investigation his team and releasing a report. I can imagine what the outcry would be if the shoe was on the other foot. Pres. Bush under suspicion for anything, and he investigating his admin and releasing a report……the libs would be beside themselves. But if the anointed one does it, it has to be gospel. I think I’m gonna throw up.
Posted by: CaseyC | December 22, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
The media ran after O like a new puppy during the campaign. He took them to Europe when they should have been checking out O’s Chicago domain. Shame on them and shame on O. Lump it O liberals, karma dictates that what you did to Bush will be done to O.
Posted by: Larry | December 22, 2008, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Great! Lets permit Al Fran ken do a skit on SNL about this whole Obama deal, right from his running for president up until today when he lands in Hawaii! He could get: Rev, Wright, bill Ayers, and a whole host to oplay their parts.
Stephen said: “The Presidency is busy as it is already. Let’s focus on how to save this country from the Bush mess. There is no time for speculation…just report facts.”
First it is the Presidency, not Presidency. Second, I’m sure you were not one of the people who were speculating about all that Bush was doing (torture, planning 9/11, etc…) and preventing the country and Bush, the President, from getting his job done the last 8 years. No…I’m sure you weren’t.
Also, how come we learned nothing about
Obama during the run up to the election? The media didn’t want any facts about Obama known, just their pre-made BS about how great he was…even though he’s never run a lemonade stand in his life.
Third, Obama is not President yet!!!!
Posted by: enyaw | December 22, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Great! Lets permit Al Fran ken do a skit on SNL about this whole Obama deal, right from his running for president up until today when he lands in Hawaii! He could get: Rev, Wright, bill Ayers, and a whole host to play their parts.
Stephen said: “The Presidency is busy as it is already. Let’s focus on how to save this country from the Bush mess. There is no time for speculation…just report facts.”
First it is the Presidency, not Presidency. Second, I’m sure you were not one of the people who were speculating about all that Bush was doing (torture, planning 9/11, etc…) and preventing the country and Bush, the President, from getting his job done the last 8 years. No…I’m sure you weren’t.
Also, how come we learned nothing about
Obama during the run up to the election? The media didn’t want any facts about Obama known, just their pre-made BS about how great he was…even though he’s never run a lemonade stand in his life.
Third, Obama is not President yet!!!!
Posted by: enyaw | December 22, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
How dumb does Obama think we are? Release your own report to clear yourself and staff? NO Thanks I think I’ll wait for the Feds case and report to be published. Of course then the media will have this phoeny report to point to to say that the real one conficts with the offical “O” report. NO wonder everyone is turning to alternative media for real news!
Posted by: cccc | December 22, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
George Stephanopoulos reports on CRAP events in politics, Congress and the White House for ABCNews, on the air and online. He interviews top newsmakers, discusses the events of the week and looks to the week ahead each Sunday on
Posted by: enyaw | December 22, 2008, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
Prosecutor Fitzgerald moved too quickly in clear attempt to protect Obama. It seems quite apparent that all of the president-elect’s men were in very deep cutting a deal over the seat. This goes all the way to the top and must be fully investigated with hearings, subpeonas and testimony under oath. Stephanopolis is also in deep protecting anything democrat. These Chicago thugs are as crooked as the come. Can’t wait for all the crackheads and pimps at the Whitehouse – Yes we can!
Posted by: PJ | December 22, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Obama’s going down in record time!!
Posted by: so what | December 22, 2008, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year-old Texas rancher, whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our President.
The old rancher said, ‘Well, ya know, Obama is a ‘post turtle’.’
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘post turtle’ was.
The old rancher said, ‘When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.’ The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain. ‘You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there.
Posted by: enyaw | December 22, 2008, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Succession!
In a few months all of the people dogging the “O” will not be able or be allowed to do so. The 1st amendment is slowly going away and your 4th amendment is completely gone(FISA). This is just a continuation of the same old thing. At this point it doesn’t matter who would have taken office. It would be the same. Do not give up though! One day the people may get tired of this crap and actually do something about it…Like vote for someone who is really trying to better this country..instead of a media popularity contest or b/c they are the head of your party. I truly hate to see the stuff that my children will have to go thru b/c of ignorance and apathy. Thank You America for voicing your apathey and ingnorance. You’ve once again done us proud!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jon | December 22, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
IT WAS THE FIRST AND ONLY TIME, I SWEAR!
I DID NOT INHALE, OR HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN/MAN, OR SWALLOW!
YOU CAN BELIEVE ME, SINCE I HAVE MY SPOUSE AND CHILDREN STANDING WITH ME WHILE I SAY THIS. THEY FULLY SUPPORT ME, AND NO I AM NOT PIMPING THEM OUT FOR POLITICAL ADVANTAGE.
I SWEAR!
Posted by: GrimReaperxxx | December 22, 2008, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
How can anyone take the media for more than a grain of salt after so much documented bias toward Obama?
Posted by: Not convinced | December 22, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
The media (ABC,NBC,CBS) is still falling all over itself to clear Obama of any wrong doing
even before the information as come out. They are a bunch of clowns that have lost the confidence of the majority of the American Public. They have become a surrogate of the democratic party information highway. I have not watched any major news outlet for 18 months. We are months away from becoming a socialist country thanks both to the Democrat and the Republican Party.
Posted by: R Martin | December 22, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Only one call… wt*? As if one call lessens the opportunity to arrange “pay for play”?
When was the last time ABC ever minimized the negative outcomes of a Bush scenario?
“Bush’s Nat’l Guard AWOL Based on ONLY one Forged Letter”?
“BUSH: Wrong on WMD ONLY Once”
“Bush’s AG ONLY Fired Attorneys Within His Purview”
It is truly laughable.
Posted by: Gift of the Majji | December 22, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Watching the few posters here who are still drinking the NObama Kool-Aid isn’t even funny, it’s just sad and pathetic.
I bet they don’t even have a problem knowing that there will be hair-relaxer stains all over the White House sofas and pillow cases. You know that stuff don’t wash out, don’t you?
Posted by: Steve | December 22, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
It sounds to me like they’re pretty much admitting that they knew he was looking for something more than “just appreciation”. Unless they were completely blind to the signs that everyone else can read into. Just more dirty politicians claiming zero responsibility for anything.
Posted by: taylor | December 22, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I read where Barack Hussein Obama has spent upwards of $500,000 trying to keep his real birth certificate hidden.
Why the heck NOT just release it already? What in the world is he trying to hide?
There’s only ONE WAY to make all this birth certificate stuff stop, and the power lies in Obama’s hands – ALL he has to do is release his REAL birth certificate.
If Georgie Stephanopoluppgus REALLY wants to make some headlines, he should interview the Doctor, Nurses, Grandmother, Sister, and Brother, all whop have claimed to have witness the birth. WTHeck are they?
Posted by: Release It Already | December 22, 2008, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
“I read where Barack Hussein Obama has spent upwards of $500,000 trying to keep his real birth certificate hidden.”
You people aren’t too fond of substantiating your claims. Like ever. How about a link? And you birth certificate people…you realize the FEC has already been satisfied, right? That it’s a done deal? You sound like flat-out tweakers.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
New Word for this President. His will be a “Presindeceny”. But what do you expect from Baroken Promises Obama?
Posted by: Starkgranger | December 22, 2008, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
Hey any of you tightwad libs see the New Times OpEd today. Seems a study by a card carring liberat himself has discovered what all us repubs have known all along. Republicans/conservatives give more than twice, thats X2 for all you stupid people, you know who you are, but in case you don’t, you voted for O. Hussein Obama, to charities. Liberals always walk around talk the compassion bs line, but when it comes to giving, they want to give YOUR money, not theirs. And as far as the “ONE” and his birth certificate, why want he produce it? If this were GWB and he wouldn’t produce his birth certificate, Dan Rather would just print one off on his PC to say whatever the story line was supposed to be. Liberals are discusting breed of louse. They want and envy what is not theirs. They don’t understand, mostly because they have never received one, that no one gets a paycheck from a poor man. The “rich” are the ones that, in most cases, “earned”, another word libs have no knowledge of, their fortune. And created jobs along the way. Liberal=Traitor=Idiot=Uninformed.
Posted by: Vince | December 22, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Silky wrote: “You people aren’t too fond of substantiating your claims. Like ever. How about a link? And you birth certificate people…you realize the FEC has already been satisfied, right? That it’s a done deal? You sound like flat-out tweakers.”
I don’t do other people’s homework – the numbers ranging from $500K-$800K (and growing) and information are out there for anyone who really cares to investigate; given that you’re a NObama Apologist, I have to warn you though, you will need to use your brain. Such as to answer this simple question;
“Why doesn’t Barry make his original birth certificate public?”
How about Barack Hussein’s college transcripts? Why on earth would someone running for POTUS and now Presdient-Elect NOT have his transcripts released? Do you think that there’s a chance that they could show something “interesting”? Like maybe that Barack Hussein applied for aid as a “foreign student”?
Good luck finding “real” answers from your Man! LOL!!
Posted by: To Silky | December 22, 2008, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
What is appreciation?
What form might it take?
Just wondering
Posted by: Winslow | December 22, 2008, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
What is Barry Soetero aka Barrack Obama hiding:
Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released
Certification of Live Birth — Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Counterfeit
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport records for 1981 Pakistan trip — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Birth_Certificate.htm
When the Obama campaign, after several unrequited requests, did finally submit the “Certificate of Live Birth”, in an effort to more formally properly vet and lend credence to the Senator’s run for the Presidency – which governing body did they submit it to? Was it to the Board of Elections? No, not there. Was it to the Federal Elections Commission? No, not there either. Well then it must have been to the Democratic National Committee, right? Wrong again. The Obama campaign chose as their advocate-for-legitimacy, none other than http://www.factcheck.org.
Posted by: ItsGonna GetNasty | December 22, 2008, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
“I don’t do other people’s homework”
Translation: I made it up.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
“We need to give Obama a chance – I am confident that he will gain executive experience within the first 3 years and then he can start his re-election campaign.”
He can get it when it’s too late?!!
Oh, I defineately see re-elect here!
Posted by: Democrat that didn't vote for O | December 22, 2008, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
The real question here is, can you impeach ( or the functional equivalent ) somebody before he’s sworn into office, or do we have to wait till the morning over for that to happen?
Posted by: howwouldiknow | December 22, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
The real question here is, can you impeach ( or the functional equivalent ) somebody before he’s sworn into office, or do we have to wait till the morning over for that to happen?
Posted by: howwouldiknow | December 22, 2008, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Silly wrote: “Translation: I made it up.”
Dearest Pinhead,
As I pointed out, as as most “thinking” individuals would would conclude, since the BC-related proceedings have yet to be finally resolved, there is no set or specific dollar amount which can be reported with 100% accuracy – that’s what “$500K-$800K and growing” means. LOL!!
Perhaps Math isn’t your strong suit? So I’ll try to make it easier for you by using shorter words and typing slowly – Which do you think is the easier action; to release a simple birth certificate for au-then-ti-ca-tion, or employing law firms as your re-pre-sen-ta-tives in courts of law in efforts to have the case(s) thrown out?
Ask your Mommy if you need help with the reading. LOL!!!
Posted by: To Silky | December 22, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Anti Obama freaks, Have a good time. j
Jerks must sound off.
Posted by: irv krrasno | December 22, 2008, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Let me guess. Parsing the Democratic Chicago machine techniques and terminology, the statement that Rahm only made “one call” is probably technically correct if we assume that “one call” was from his personal cell or home phone, but his network of community activists made more for him and Rahm did the rest of his communication using text messages, e-mail, and pre-paid calling cards and pay phones. I trust some news reporter will do a thorough check of all the possible techniques used by the Chicago politicians. “One call” just doesn’t cut it! The scandal starts in Illinois and stretches to the new staff of the President elect. Hmm. Smells fishy.
Posted by: thinkerray | December 22, 2008, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
How can anyone complain about the democrat party messiah? He is perfect in every way
Posted by: asdf | December 22, 2008, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
I wonder if George Stephanopoulos would have taken an exculpatory report from an internal investigation conducted by the Bush administration with the same veracity…let’s hope Obama is not All Too Human like previous savior Bill C.
Posted by: Mark | December 22, 2008, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Obama, Rahm, and Craig cannot clear themselves of their own scandal. It doesn’t matter what they say, the investigation is going to continue.
Patrick Fitzgerald is an equal opportunity crime investigator.
Posted by: HPBOSTON | December 22, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
“Ask your Mommy if you need help with the reading. LOL!!!”
No, I’m good there. In the future, when you cite figures, like you did above, it’s up to you to validate them. It’s not up to others. Again…you made it up. Admit it and move on.
And again, the FEC considers the birth certificate authentic and a closed case. No amount of jumping up and down like your hair’s on fire is going to change that. It only serves to further make you look funny.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
YOU OBAMA FANATICS
MUST FEEL GOOD TO HAVE SUCH A TAINTED PRESIDENT ELECT. YES, IT IS HISTORICAL. THE FIRST PRESIDENT ELECT HAVING SO MUCH SCANDAL AND CORRUPTION BEFORE HE IS EVEN IN OFFICE..
OHHH YOU ALL MUST BE SOOOOO PROUD…
Posted by: SUSAN | December 22, 2008, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
PRES-INDECENCY
Posted by: Starkgranger | December 22, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
“OHHH YOU ALL MUST BE SOOOOO PROUD…”
You all just make it up as you go, ad nauseum. HE’S POLLING WELL! His appointments are satisfying people deep on both sides of the aisle. He is galvanizing the country, in spite of this thing around his neck and you people. I am proud to have voted for the guy and I’m ecstatic to have somebody on their way to the White House who is capable of thinking and communicating beyond a 7th grade education. You guys have a lot of nerve railing against Obama considering what you’ve been responsible for the last 8 years. It’s laughable.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
SO SILKY
ANSWER THE QUESTION….WHY WON’T OBAMA RELEASE ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION LIKE EVERY OTHER PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE IN THE PAST HAS??????
Posted by: SUSAN | December 22, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Oh Please. Did you really expect them to find “something” on Obama? Nothing negative will ever be found – they know how to hide it too well.
Posted by: Sunny | December 22, 2008, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
STOP FOOLING YOURSELF SILKY
Posted by: SUSAN | December 22, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Spin it good George…impending report from the Bam team? say what?…kinda like the fox watching the hen house, isn’t it?…but from someone like you, George, having been in the trenches w/ the Clintons for so long, this must be child’s play…Bam & Rahm knew what Blago was doing…their public careers, like Blago’s, were born & raised on iniquity & deceit…their acquiescence & failure to take proactive steps to stop it…until Fitzgerald’s indictment brought it to media attention…makes both of them culpable for prosecution & unfit for the offices to which they were elected…
Posted by: John Doe | December 22, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
The vetting of campaign candidates is murky at best and the media was missing in action on reporting on any of the candidates qualifications to run for the highest office in the land. Media must have known the online rumblings of fraud were ramping up but knowingly did not investigate or report. We watched for days for ANYONE to dare to ask Obama face to face to produce his birth certificate and not the phony one on his site. Of course the real king makers were pulling the strings behind the scene and this election was decided long ago. Just as they are now not telling the american people the truth about the financial collapse.
Posted by: candid | December 22, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
From the most recent poll on http://www.gallup.com:
“The Dec. 12-14 poll finds 75% approving of the way he is handling his presidential transition.”
That’s 3 out of 4. Which is a lot when you’re talking about approval ratings.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
AND WHO ARE THEY POLLING???
Posted by: SUSAN | December 22, 2008, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Call be a NeoCon if you like, but you have to like a courageous man like Rahm Emanual. Did you know, while a U.S. citizen he volunteered for a foreign country’s army (Israel)? That’s either guts or he’s a traitor. I’d like to think he’s got chutspah. Either way, I’m sure, someday, he’ll admit how involved he is with this scandal. Proud to be an American, John Berchert
Posted by: John Berchert | December 22, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
“ANSWER THE QUESTION….WHY WON’T OBAMA RELEASE ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION LIKE EVERY OTHER PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE IN THE PAST HAS??????”
Don’t know, don’t care. He’s under no obligation to.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
ANOTHER BRAINWASHED OBAMANUT. NO MIND OF THEIR OWN.
Posted by: SUSAN | December 22, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
i see the republican nut job drudge page readers are still at it. good grief, even the right wing nut job world net daily says obama was born in this country and the birth certificate is real. give it a rest. john mccain is still the only presidential candidate you are required to have a passport to visit the birth place of. well, except for the one they think was born in canada. give it a rest!
Posted by: rickmark | December 22, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
“ANOTHER BRAINWASHED OBAMANUT. NO MIND OF THEIR OWN.”
Uh…right. Whatever you say.
Your caps lock button is engaged, btw.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Made in the USA made a blantly false statemetn. Obama did not have a “cozy” relationship. They were more rivals than friends. The Govenor was not even given speaking time at the convention.
As far as the rest of you “conspiracy” nutt jobs take it easy. The President elect is going to be much more towards the center than you ever thought. I am very pleased the way things are going!
Posted by: KW in SC | December 22, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Made in the USA made a blantly false statemetn. Obama did not have a “cozy” relationship. They were more rivals than friends. The Govenor was not even given speaking time at the convention.
As far as the rest of you “conspiracy” nutt jobs take it easy. The President elect is going to be much more towards the center than you ever thought. I am very pleased the way things are going!
Posted by: KW in SC | December 22, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
So we should all leave Obama alone because it speaking negatively could damage his ability to lead and damage the country? Don’t do it, you say, for the good of the country? It wouldn’t be right? Then why did you Liberals do exactly that to Bush? You and the media. I’m afraid you’ve set the example and it will be followed. Obama and his administration will be dealt with as brutally as you did Bush. And yes, it will all be to the detriment of our country. Good luck America.
Posted by: David Lifferth | December 22, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
WRONG RICKMARK
OBAMA CAN STOP THIS BY SHOWING HIS REAL BC. HE WON’T BECAUSE HE WAS NOT BORN HERE. THERE IS NO OTHER REASON. DON’T BE SO “MIND CONTROLLED”
Posted by: SUSAN | December 22, 2008, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
“Then why did you Liberals do exactly that to Bush?”
Because Bush is killing and torturing people based on a bald-faced lie. It’s really not that difficult to understand, though many of you seem incapable.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Everybody calm down…politics is
the same yesterday today and forever.Nothing has changed since Kennedy was killed. Just shop and
stop watching so much TV.If you
look at the news of 1963,you can
see that it’s just about the same
as it was in the world.Only we
have to see it and hear it 24/7.
Do yourself a favor ,take a break
and let the kids take over. They
are not watching the BOOB TUBE.
Have a Merry Christmas and celebrate the freedom we enjoy today.Peace and
we miss John Lennon…Chris
Posted by: Chris | December 22, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
rickmark- another typical Obama propogandist. You have not stated the truth in your post. Perhaps you could provide the link at worldnetdaily that says Obama was born in this country. Here are three links of interest from the site you spoke of.http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84221
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84172
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83984
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83980
Posted by: Starkgranger | December 22, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
“OBAMA CAN STOP THIS BY SHOWING HIS REAL BC.”
lol! Do you actually think this birth certificate business even registers on his radar?
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Silky said “Because Bush is killing and torturing people based on a bald-faced lie. It’s really not that difficult to understand, though many of you seem incapable.”
And if you believe that, then you are as ignorant as Silky.
Posted by: Daniel | December 22, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
I can’t believe there are still extremist out their asking for his birth certificate. Here are some facts they ignore. Obama does not own his birth certificate. The state of Hawaii owns it. He cannot force them to do anything. Second, there are no clerks or executives at the Hawaii dept of records that can prevent state or federal official from seeing anything they want in their records. They cannot prevent the Governor, Attoney General, or many other state officials. They cannot prevent federal agents, officials, and judges from seeing the records. For you to be right, you have to assume that the Hawaii dept of records can keep a secret better than the White House who occasionally have a leak. For you to be right, you have to assume the Obama has more power that all branches of government at all levels, controls all reporters, and all political opponents. His political opponents would rather lose than challenge where he was born. That is amazing for someone these idiots claim was born in another country. He was not well known outside of Illinois until he started running for president. Instead, maybe no government official or political opponents have claimed his birth certificate is false because the birth certificate is real. They have been told by trusted people that it is real or have see it for themselves. So why is it that only a small group of idiots still believe he was not born in Hawaii? Why have all court cases that have made a decision have thrown out these cases? Why is the only evidence these idiots provide just speculation – with no tangible evidence? The reason they don’t give up is that they think they are smarter than the 99.99% of us that have and use common sense.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | December 22, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
KW in SC : Rivals? Are you sure? Have you actually looked into this, or just mindlessly repeating what you’ve been told like a good little liberal? Perhaps you should ask yourself why, being rivals, Obama would put so much effort into getting Blago elected.
And sorry, there is little reason to believe Obama is “going towards the center” as he has filled his cabinet with a lot of rabidly left leaning members.
Posted by: howwouldiknow | December 22, 2008, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
Mr. Silky Pants… You and the Libs calling Bush a liar is on the same level as the Birth Certificate claim. You clowns keep calling him a liar and those guys will keep talking Birth Certificate- Right? That’s how it should be, right? Every nasty thing you clowns said about Bush will come back in SPADES, pun intended.
Posted by: Peter Gozynia | December 22, 2008, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Everybody calm down..
Politics …
same as it ever was…
same as it ever was…
same as it ever was…
Posted by: chris | December 22, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
“And if you believe that, then you are as ignorant as Silky.”
Disregarding the syntax issues here…exactly what am I ignorant about on this point? It was proven prior to Powell’s speech that there were no mobile weapons labs…that the entrances that Curveball referred to were very clearly non-existent…they were walls. That yellow cake was nowhere remotely close to WMD status, nor did Saddam have the means to get it processed. They knew Curveball was lying. That’s what he does…that’s why they gave him the name Curveball. Get it? Anyway you spin it, it was a lie.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
Can you imagine if the Bush Administration said that it was investigating itself and would issue its findings on the matter? Look at how the press is “waiting” for Obama’s team to report on their findings…They act as if it is an independent investigation. I have to laugh.
Posted by: KEITH | December 22, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
“Mr. Silky Pants… You and the Libs calling Bush a liar is on the same level as the Birth Certificate claim.”
Not even close. That Bush lied is indisputable. It’s a fact that has been proven. And that lie has resulted in countless casualties, both American and Iraqi. Dead people. Widows. Kids without fathers/mothers. VERY REAL, HORRIFYING STUFF. Now how you can equate that to this birth certificate nonsense further connects the dots for me on how that moron got elected not once, but twice.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Silky… and all the biological WMD’s that Sadam used on the Iranians and Kurds were non existent? And when the UN inspectors were booted and Sadam played his little game making the World think he would unleash nuclear and biological hell on everyone if they attacked didn’t happen? The whole world including most libs in congress believed he had WMD’s. So it never was a lie it was a stupid poker move by Sadam. Now where’s that Birth Certificate… as the game goes no.
Posted by: Peter Gozynia | December 22, 2008, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Have any of you noticed that the total stated dollar amount of the Ken Starr investigation keeps going up every time a liberal references it? For your information, that money was spent because Clinton lied under oath about having sex with M.L. in the oval office while on the job. He could have saved us the whole ordeal. Maybe he should have had his staff review the case and issue their own report on the matter. George Steph. and the rest of the media would have run with it.
Posted by: keith | December 22, 2008, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
“Perhaps you should ask yourself why, being rivals, Obama would put so much effort into getting Blago elected.”
Because much of what politics is about is amassing political currency. And being on the side that’s winning usually comes with some of that currency.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
“Can you imagine if the Bush Administration said that it was investigating itself and would issue its findings on the matter?”
No, I can’t, because the Bush Administration is WAY too arrogant for something like that. They’d never do it. They’d defiantely give a big ol’ Texas FU.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
The Birth Certificate is only the start and it won’t go away. Blogo and Chicago Politics is gaining steam too. It equates to Bush lied in that it is a way to distract and confuse the moron moderates who decide elections. Every time Bush did anything it was spun by libs into trash. Now Obama gets the same thing. Logic is irrelevant and truth makes no difference. Politics is the art of tricking the narrow margin of moderates who can’t tell you who Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid are. Produce the Birth Certificate, NOW!
Posted by: Peter Gozynia | December 22, 2008, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
silky, if there were never any WMD’s in Iraq, why then did the U.N. weapons inspectors say that there was for many years? Why did Bill Clinton bomb the hell out of them for the exact stated reasons? We’ve all watched the video and heard the audio clips of essentially the entire democratic party claiming that he had WMD’s and nuke ambitions. You’re a moron.
Posted by: keith | December 22, 2008, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
MikeMo- so everyone has access to the Birth Certificate? Check this story from the governor of Hawaii.
http://www.bloggernews.net/118355
Posted by: Starkgranger | December 22, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Obama investigating himself and making a report is heroic? I wonder if they will come back and say, Obama did participate in the Pay to Play game of Chicago politics and is guilty and therefore won’t be able to take office as he must now defend himself. He is way to arrogant for that. He will exonerate himself totally. Shall we hide and watch?
Posted by: Peter Gozynia | December 22, 2008, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
“You’re a moron.”
Right…I’m the moron on this issue. Have you seen the facts? I’m thinking not.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
“silky, if there were never any WMD’s in Iraq, why then did the U.N. weapons inspectors say that there was for many years?”
There were biological weapons. He’s never detonated a nuclear device. This was about nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Amazing you people who have felt it appropriate to accuse our current pres and vp of absolute attrocities with not one shred of evidence other than your own personal hatered. Now, others are not allowed to even critisize or question Obama when there IS evidence. What happened to “change in Washington”, transparency, and ethics? He refuses to answer tough questions and the media lets him get away with it! It takes them this long to respond and then only admit to what is obvious. I wil bet a weeks pay that they find more contact. Then the story will be, “oh I was not aware that was going on in my administration.” Don’t get me wrong I honestly do hope Obama delivers this country to a new level of ethics. I just doubt it is going to happen and I’m already tired of the Bush haters that will not tolerate ANY critisizm of Obama. He ran for this position, folks. He WILL be under fire! Get used to it!
Posted by: Kirk Lepchenske | December 22, 2008, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Who’s the idiot that bought up that stupid birth certificate garbage?
Posted by: Joe6Pack | December 22, 2008, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Silky – Biological Weapons ARE WMDs.
Posted by: Col Powell | December 22, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
yea and obama’s wife got her job because she was the most qualified person in chicago
Posted by: tomb | December 22, 2008, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
Silky. Everything you say about Bush lying come from the Democratic machine talking points that began when Al Gore screamed, HE LIED! It carried on through Kerry’s run for the potus and cam to a boil in this election. Facts are truth, not political rhetoric. The media hid all the video of Libs in full throttle supporting an attack on Iraq. The fact is, Sadam told the lie and it cost him and others their lives. The only honorable man in all of this was Bush. Liberals say Bush was stupid and in the same breath they say he tricked them. So who is stupid?
Posted by: Peter Gozynia | December 22, 2008, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
The viable WMDs that were located in Iraq were transported into Syria the same way that foreign fighters enter Iraq today. The CIA saw the truck movement but had their hands tied due to political wrangling amongst Arab states and democrats. The weapons are still there but located in the safe haven of Syria. Why do you think there was such an outcry at Israel when they responded with such force against Syria. It was feared the weapons would be found.
Posted by: J Edgar | December 22, 2008, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Come on all you folks hammering Obama about this! At least show the same level of respect that us Democrats showed Bush……er, never mind.
Posted by: Bucky | December 22, 2008, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Well, Joe6Pack, it was the political detractors that want Obama derailed, if not literally now, in the next election. This is a very small thing compared to what else is going to happen. Shall we try this one? Putin made a deal with Obama that if Putin would funnel money into his campaign, Obama would turn all the nuclear codes over to him when he takes office. It isn’t true, but neither is the claim that Bush lied.
Posted by: Peter Gozynia | December 22, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Silky,
I love it when you and the other libs out there pretend to care about widows, children, etc… How many have been spared by removing Saddam? What about those who were tortured and killed by his regime? Bush STOPPED IT!!!
Posted by: keith | December 22, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
A real story : The Republican consultant accused of involvement in alleged vote-rigging in Ohio in 2004 was warned that his plane might be sabotaged before his death in a crash Friday night, according to a Cleveland CBS affiliate.
45-year-old Republican operative Michael Connell was killed when his single-passenger plane crashed Friday into a home in a suburb of Akron, Ohio (PREVIOUS REPORT). The consultant was called to testify in federal court regarding a lawsuit alleging that he took part in tampering with Ohio’s voting results in the 2004 election.
Without getting into specific details, 19 Action News reporter Blake Renault reported Sunday evening that 45-year-old Republican operative and experienced pilot had been warned not to fly his plane in the days before the crash.
“Connell…was apparently told by a close friend not to fly his plane because his plane might be sabotaged,” Renault said. “And twice in the last two months Connell, who is an experienced pilot, cancelled two flights because of suspicious problems with his plane.”
Renault called Connell’s death “untimely.”
The National Transportation Safety Board and Federal Aviation Administration are now investigating the crash. According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, no new information has been made available since the incident occurred.
Connell was the subject of a lawsuit by liberal lawyer Clifford Arnebeck, perhaps most well known for suing on behalf of 37 Ohio residents to block Bush’s electoral college victory in 2004. Arnebeck had alleged Connell’s involvement in a ploy to “flip” votes from then Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry to then-President George W. Bush.
Connell was ordered to testify in the suit in October, and told a federal court that he had no involvement and knew of no plan to switch votes in Ohio in 2004.
The Plain Dealer made no mention at all of the suit in their article Monday.
Connell was the founder of Ohio-based New Media Communications, which created campaign Web sites for George W. Bush and John McCain.
Arnebeck warned the Justice Department that Connell’s safety was in jeopardy earlier this year. In July, he wrote an email to Attorney General Michael Mukasey, requesting witness protection for the GOP operative, which was carbon copied to Democratic Congressmen John Conyers, Jr. (D-MI) and Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), who were sympathetic to his 2004 lawsuit over Ohio’s electoral votes.
“I have informed court chambers and am in the process of informing the Ohio Attorney General’s and US Attorney’s offices in Columbus for the purpose, among other things, of seeking protection for Mr. Connell and his family from this reported attempt to intimidate a witness,” Arnebeck wrote. “Because of the serious engagement in this matter that began in 2000 of the Ohio Statehouse Press Corps, 60 Minutes, the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, C-Span and Jim VandeHei, and the public’s right to know of gross attempts to subvert the rule of law, I am forwarding this information to them, as well.”
Connell’s exploits as a top GOP IT ‘guru’ have been well documented by RAW STORY’s investigative team.
The interest in Mike Connell stems from his association with a firm called GovTech, which he had spun off from his own New Media Communications under his wife Heather Connell’s name. GovTech was hired by Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell to set up an official election website at election.sos.state.oh.us to present the 2004 presidential returns as they came in.
Connell is a long-time GOP operative, whose New Media Communications provided web services for the Bush-Cheney ’04 campaign, the US Chamber of Commerce, the Republican National Committee and many Republican candidates.
Alternative media group ePlubibus Media further discovered in November 2006 that election.sos.state.oh.us was hosted on the servers of a company in Chattanooga, TN called SmarTech, which also provided hosting for a long list of Republican Internet domains.
“Since early this decade, top Internet ‘gurus’ in Ohio have been coordinating web services with their GOP counterparts in Chattanooga, wiring up a major hub that in 2004, first served as a conduit for Ohio’s live election night results,” researchers at ePluribus Media wrote.
A few months after this revelation, when a scandal erupted surrounding the firing of US Attorneys for reasons of White House policy, other researchers found that the gwb43 domain used by members of the White House staff to evade freedom of information laws by sending emails outside of official White House channels was hosted on those same SmarTech servers.
RAW STORY Investigative Editor Larisa Alexandrovna said Connell’s death should be examined carefully in a blog post Sunday, but stopped short of alleging foul play. She reported on Arnebeck’s lawsuit and Connell’s enjoined testimony earlier this year.
“He has flown his private plane for years without incident,” Alexandrovna wrote. “I know he was going to DC last night, but I don’t know why. He apparently ran out of gas, something I find hard to believe. I am not saying that this was a hit nor am I resigned to this being simply an accident either. I am no expert on aviation and cannot provide an opinion on the matter. What I am saying, however, is that given the context, this event needs to be examined carefully.”
Posted by: BlueJersey | December 22, 2008, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Wow…all u people yelling at each other
with vile and anger…u are the very people who will lead us into a war.I would
suggest The Marx Brothers movie Duck Soup
and a Red Foxx Record from the early 1960′s for some serious R&R this holiday
season.
And Gov. Patterson, even Stevie Wonder can take a blind joke from SNL.
Everybody shop and stop watching so much
Television.
Posted by: chris | December 22, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
BlueJersey? Exactly what are you suggesting here? The GOP killed the guy so he couldn’t testify? Or was he killed by the Dems for flipping the votes? Since the 2004 lawsuit went nowhere, are we to assume the Birth Certificate thing will go nowhere and someone will be murdered over it? Help me out here, brother?
Posted by: Peter Gozynia | December 22, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
I definitely remember giving birth to him with the sound of the surf in the background. he Indonesian….. I mean the Hawaiian breeze blowing. Whew that was a close on.
Posted by: Obamy Mammy | December 22, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Obamy Mammy… I think that was the after-birth?
Posted by: Clark Kent | December 22, 2008, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Rahm lied, we let him slide.
Posted by: Trader Joe | December 22, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
I promise I had only one conversation with Blago. I told him that BO and I had full confidence he would pick the right person for the job. There that settles it no illegal activity here. What’s that? You want to know why I have this bag of money? Uhhhh, I plan to go Christmas Shopping in Chicago.
Posted by: rahm | December 22, 2008, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
George, get your head out of Obama’s @ss. You’re not credible anymore.
Well said but George can’t hear you from in there!
Posted by: richardm | December 22, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Who’s the idiot that bought up that stupid birth certificate garbage?
Posted by: Joe6Pack | Dec 22, 2008 4:10:30 PM
======================
Of course some loser republican bought it up. Probably still think that mccain and palin are going to make a miraculous comeback.
Posted by: Order | December 22, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Susan, chill out. Ur man- The Messiah- won the election. You can stop the spin of the election campaign. Now we all get to sit back and watch The Chosen One deliver the goods as promised. AS PROMISED- no excuses. You can’t blame Bush for 4 years. If BHO succeeds, America wins and he validates his Mighty Annoitment! If he truly is an empty suit, which 47% of the voters believed, and he fails, then we get what we deserve. God help us and keep praying, Susan…
Posted by: lover of liberty- not lies... | December 22, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Order- actually it was a loser Democrat that questioned Obama’s eligibility for office. Of course, you Dems are loaded with racists and bigots so that shouldnt surprise anybody. Just ask Sheets Byrd.
Posted by: Loser Republican | December 22, 2008, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
“Silky. Everything you say about Bush lying come from the Democratic machine talking points that began when Al Gore screamed, HE LIED!”
No, everything I’m saying I found in my own research, thanks. Namely, those Frontline specials I referenced. Again, they are must-see documents.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Keith wrote:
“Silky,
I love it when you and the other libs out there pretend to care about widows, children, etc… How many have been spared by removing Saddam? What about those who were tortured and killed by his regime? Bush STOPPED IT!!!”
Hey Keith – I wonder how many widows, children, homeless, and less fortunate would have been helped by the almost Billion (with a “B”) of dollars The ObaMassiah used to buy the Presidency?
Aw heck – forget all of them, how about just his OWN family? Can you say brother “George Hussein Onyango Obama” who was found living near Nairobi on $1 dollar a month? Or Kenyan, “Auntie Zeituni Onyango” found living in rundown Boston projects who NObama said should be deported?
You’d think the Brotha could spare one of those dimes he saved on the “boneheaded” Rezko deal. LOL!!
Posted by: For Keith | December 22, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Starkgranger – You proved my point by pointing me to a blog site as evidence. It is no more reliable than much of the postings on this site. Second, I read it anyway and the link to the article about the Governor sealing it. It stated it was sealed and gave the order to not show it to any reporter. It did not say anything about not showing it to government officials or agencies like the FBI. All sealing does is make it much more difficult to steal. It does not make it impossible for appropriate officials to see it. The article also confirmed that Obama is not the owner of the document, that the state is the owner. So the conclusion is still that people in high places know that it is real, otherwise some federal or state official would have pursued making Obama ineligible long ago. Can you imagine the money a clerk at that office would have made if she knew it was fake or foreign or did not exist. She would be rich and an American hero for coming forward with the truth of a cover-up. But a clerk ,withour permission, would get nothing except fired if they went to a reporter and said it was real. There is no evidence that Obama was born somewhere else. Even if Obama thought you were sane and brought a legal copy of his birth certificate to court for everyone to see, idiots would still come up with theories of why his certified copy was not “real”. He would need to bring in more original documents to comfirm that your theories were not correct. In other words, Obama is guilty unless he can prove he is innocent. Not exactly the American way of justice, but you are not interested in anything but your own fame.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | December 22, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
“Of course, you Dems are loaded with racists and bigots so that shouldnt surprise anybody.”
Pffftt. Now that’s funny.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
“I think Obama was born in Hawaii as he claims. But I think it is more likely that the word `muslim’ appears on that birth certificate and is the reason behind the very strange hiding of the document by the authorities in Hawaii. Doesn’t seem to be very honest, but not the constitutional crisis some seem to believe.”
That’s kinda where I’m at. Something’s up, but not anything I care about. If it’s good enough for the FEC, it’s good enough for me.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Stephanopoulos’ sources say Obama’s investigation found Emanuel and Blagojevich had only one contact. However, in the Sunday San Francisco Chronicle, in legendary California Democrat Willie Brown’s column “Willie’s World,” he disclosed that Governor Blagojevich called him, and in their chat told him that he had “many heated conversations” with Rahm Emanuel. The link to Brown’s column in my blog post: http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.com/2008/12/obama-blagojevich-emanuel-cover-up.html
Posted by: Michael B. Combs | December 22, 2008, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
“However, in the Sunday San Francisco Chronicle, in legendary California Democrat Willie Brown’s column “Willie’s World,” he disclosed that Governor Blagojevich called him, and in their chat told him that he had “many heated conversations” with Rahm Emanuel.”
About what? I imagine many people have had heated conversations with both of these guys. They’re both known as egomaniacs.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Can’t We All Just Get Along?!
Posted by: Democrat that didn't vote for O | December 22, 2008, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Supporters of Obama should not rely on the main stream MEDIA as their sole source of what “truth” is, because it has become ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that the MSM is doing all they can to HIDE THE TRUTH. PROOF??? READ THIS:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/a-case-of-the-scrubs-covering-up-is-never-a-good-idea/
Posted by: Anonymous | December 22, 2008, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
MORE…….FOIL!!!!!
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
defeated republicrites and bored pundits are desperate for something negative to pin on President Obama. sorry to disappoint them, no way! look closer at Palin.
Posted by: philospherkingtomas | December 22, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Silky wrote:
“Of course, you Dems are loaded with racists and bigots so that shouldnt surprise anybody.”
Pffftt. Now that’s funny.”
Not near as funny as Barney “I Didn’t Know My Boyfriend Was Operating A Gay Escort Service” out of my apartment” Frank getting his panties in a knot over NOBama’s choice of anti-Gay Rev. Rick Warren to participate in his inauguration – not very “tolerant” of him is it? Typical Do-As-I-Say-Not-As-I-Do Liberal Hypocrite.
Looks like Mr. “Fannie Mae And Freddie Mac Are Not In A Crisis, As I Date Gay Fannie Mae Executive Herb Moses” Frank is in need of a few Sensitivity Classes of his own. LOL!!
Posted by: For Silky | December 22, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
a lot of crazy paranoid losers out there ! hysterical! especially “ItsGonna GetNasty” blogger, take you meds and see your shrink or probation officers republicans!
Posted by: philospherkingtomas | December 22, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | Dec 22, 2008 12:14:11 AM:
“The Reaper:
You and your friends are not going to do nothing!!!
You going to sit back and accept President-elect Obama as your president!!!!
You don’t scare NOBODY with that BULL!!!”
sisterdearest, didn’t anyone ever teach you about double negatives? And I’m not talking about Obama/Biden!
Posted by: Linnilu | December 22, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
“Looks like Mr. “Fannie Mae And Freddie Mac Are Not In A Crisis, As I Date Gay Fannie Mae Executive Herb Moses” Frank is in need of a few Sensitivity Classes of his own. LOL!!”
It doesn’t make sense to you that a gay person finds Warren offensive? You’re worse off than I though.
And laughing at your own posts on the internet makes you look….special.
Posted by: Silky | December 22, 2008, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm
They don’t call it the jackass party for nothing. After reading the comments by Obama’s sychophants here it’s easy to see why. Get this. Obama was a senior advisor to Blago…don’t give us this crap thay they are not linked. Rezko(remember him, he helped Obama buy his mansion while under indictment) was often a conduit between the two. Please, just because you were stupid enough to vote for some clown right out of Chicago’s circus of corruption, don’t expect the rest of to look the other way when it comes to ethics in government. Now go back to Starbucks or a PETA meeting or wherever you dumb Libs hang out.
Posted by: Patrick Henry | December 22, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
It’s appearing more and more like little Georgie here has jumped from the Turnip Truck smack dab into a pile of steaming Schumer!
Posted by: Hank G | December 22, 2008, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
were there any non-phone conversations between the two?
Posted by: americanman | December 22, 2008, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Admitted DUAL citizenship= doesn’t NOt qualify.
Cases NOT thrown out in SCOTUS, just the stays of the electorial..
Military to fill their own suit.
House Reps and Senators meeting to discuss objecting the Electorial vote the 8th.
Bam Bam finally getting thrown under his own bus…. sweet!
Posted by: JAC | December 22, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Silly wrote:
“It doesn’t make sense to you that a gay person finds Warren offensive? You’re worse off than I though.”
Looks like “Reading Comprehension” is also not your strong suit. LOL!!
But if you’ll have someone re-read my post to you, you may recognize that the point was that Poor Listful Barney Frank, the Iconic Liberal for all things Democrat who are always whining about tolerance and the acceptance of others, is now peeing in his Depends over Barack Hussein’s decision to have someone who has spoken out against the Gay lifestyle participate in Barry’s inauguration ceremonies.
Do try to keep up. LOL!!!
Posted by: For Silly | December 22, 2008, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
has anyone seen a valid birth certificate
of barack obama. rumors have risen about
his actual birthplace. in some cases. a birth overseas would exclude him serving as president.
apparently, he and his staff refuse to comply with simple requests from the
U.S. Justice Foundation
Posted by: willis maki | December 22, 2008, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
caramea saidShe was found to be unethical.
Hey she associated with not only Ted Stevens, put Wasilla into debt, stole clothes, was knocked up when she got married, now her daughter is knocked up and doesnt know much period
You posted this earlier and I responded. Were you knocked up? You keep mentioning this. Obama’s mother was knocked up by a black man. Now what kind of trailer trash is that. You seem to be very jealous of Palin
Posted by: susan | December 22, 2008, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Watergate II?
lord you people know jack-all about history don’t you? Even if there was some nefarious plot, which there is zero evidence to support, this is not anything like “Watergate”. Go read some history before you make yourself look like ignorant fools… again, and again and again.
Posted by: edgeways | December 22, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Don’t you just love it! I’ve investigated myself and all of my friends and I can honestly declare that none of us are involved and none of us are guilty of anything. Trust me!
Posted by: Roscoe | December 22, 2008, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
willis maki —- No one has seen it! Not even the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court or any of his disciples—- that’s how secret it is! If this was to fall into the hands of the wrong people it would definitely change the course of the free world from now into eternity!
Posted by: Roscoe | December 22, 2008, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
American gossipy media, the evil fake christian haters and all those dumb enough to believe ugly lies deserve Palin and another Bush or Cheney as your president! Rove would be better! You people do not deserve a good president to save your butts from self destruction lit by the Republican party right wing nuts who rob each and every one of you blind! Shameful gossipers. All of you deserve the states of Texas and Alaska, and move there! You will all be bankrupt in 5 years or destroyed when the dumb working class wakes up from a zombie state starving and in destitution with revenge.
Posted by: Ana | December 22, 2008, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Why don’t you all just relax and see
where his presidency takes this country..should be interesting to
say the least.
I’m looking forward to it..not
Posted by: lvh | December 22, 2008, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
Ana wrote:
“All of you deserve the states of Texas and Alaska, and move there! You will all be bankrupt in 5 years or destroyed when the dumb working class wakes up from a zombie state starving and in destitution with revenge.”
Toss in Louisiana and you have the Top 3 Oil Producing states in the nation – so while we in Texlaskana are staying comfy warm, driving around in our SUVs, and enjoying all the petroleum by-products and derived riches, we’ll be laughing at you tree hugging idiots tooling around in Al Gore’s sub-freezing temps on bicycles.
Maybe we’ll do like the MidEast and just start building *extra* islands in all sorts of cool shapes; like a big middle finger to you. LOL!!!
Posted by: To Ana | December 22, 2008, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
George Stephanopoulos reported that Obama’s investigation found Emanuel and Blagojevich had only one contact. However, in the Sunday San Francisco Chronicle, in legendary California Democrat Willie Brown’s column “Willie’s World,” he disclosed that Governor Blagojevich called him, and in their chat told him that he had “many heated conversations” with Rahm Emanuel. I have more and the links to both columns in my blog post: http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.com/2008/12/obama-blagojevich-emanuel-cover-up.html
Posted by: Michael B. Combs | December 22, 2008, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
“All we would get is appreciation”…how would he know if he didn’t ask? And if he asked……then somebody knew….wonder who that is.
Posted by: ben hamilton | December 22, 2008, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
George,
I liked you now I see you are just part of the propaganda machine. That story was a joke. Your sources– How about not being so biased in your reporting.
Your story really fits in well with the current “just tell the public what they need to hear” climate. Or maybe you really are a deity and know exactly what happened .
J-a– move in my opinion.
Posted by: Gimme a Break | December 22, 2008, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
The traitors who are trying to take down Obama and destroy this country — to the degree they didn’t by electing and supporting the criminal Bush/Cheney administration — are quite busy
at their game. Make no mistake about ut: right wingers hate the Enlightenment principles upon which the U.S. was founded.
Posted by: Jay Ballou | December 22, 2008, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
in legendary California Democrat Willie Brown’s column “Willie’s World,” he disclosed that Governor Blagojevich called him, and in their chat told him that he had “many heated conversations” with Rahm Emanuel.
And of course we can trust everything Blogjevich says — right, traitors?
Posted by: Jay Ballou | December 22, 2008, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
” Obama’s mother was knocked up by a black man. Now what kind of trailer trash is that.”
Susan, you’re an ignorant piece of racist scum.
Posted by: Jay Ballou | December 22, 2008, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Just below the “bottom line” should be a disclaimer : “this article for entertainment purposes only”. Maybe this kind of fluff ought to go right back where it came from….george’s bottom.
Posted by: ben hamilton | December 22, 2008, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Patrick Henry,
You forgot to mention that Blago’s wife Patti was the realtor for the Rezko and Obama McMansion plus land deal!
Posted by: Realtor Patti Blago | December 22, 2008, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Despite the many attempts by the party who won, this story will not die. I can not wait until the master story teller and his team fills the ears of his siccophants on tues with the information that he has been dying to give. Since he is in Hawaii why don’t he just give his birth cert to the press.
Posted by: blagobioch | December 22, 2008, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
blagobioch – most rumors never die as long as there are fools to spread them. LBJ had JFK assisinated. The moon landing never occurred. Clinton had over 50 people killed. Bush was behind the explosions that collapsed the WTC. McCain was responsible for over a hundred deaths on an aircraft carrier. Obama was born in another country and a tape of his grandmother verifying this fact is being released tomorrow. There are many more false rumors that have not died and probably never will because there are always idiots with no common sense that will believe what everyone else knows is nonsense.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | December 22, 2008, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
There is nothing wrong being a conservative, a liberal, or a moderate. However, it will be the extremist at both ends that is a danger to this nation. Extremist do not listen to others and therefore, never learn anything. They just reinforce options they already have. They have no respect for our form of government because if their candidate lose the election it is because of the majority of American voters are idiots. They want things their way whether the public wants it or not and whether the Constitution permits it.
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | December 22, 2008, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
You forgot to mention that Blago’s wife Patti was the realtor for the Rezko and Obama McMansion plus land deal!
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I really wish you would not bring up these scandals. The liberal media has already ignored them – we don’t want to ruin Obama’s annointment even if he is a typical Chicago Machine Cog.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 22, 2008, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
The Obama haters are reaching here. Jeff Fish, are you really claiming that Obama had a “cozy relationship” with Blagojevich? Most reports I’ve seen said that the two rarely spoke. For a Senator and a Governor of the same state, that’s not cozy–it’s downright distant.
Posted by: Matty B | December 22, 2008, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
All,
The liberal media is claiming that Obama and Blago are not in cahoots – however, we know this is not true: “And, it should be pointed out, Mr. Obama has a relationship with Mr. Blagojevich, having not only endorsed Blagojevich in 2002 and 2006, but having served as a top adviser to the Illinois governor in his first 2002 run for the state house.”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/12/questions-arise.html
They are both Chicago Machine products and corrupt to the core, however, this doesn’t matter because Obama will punish the rich and transfer more money to people like me – we need to ignore these petty scandals and focus on Socialism.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 22, 2008, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
Oh gee, why can’t Obama be more transparent and open, as promised, answer these Blago questions ? Is his teleprompter broken ? And why doesn’t the media/ABC, and I use the term very loosely, interview Obama and ask him the questions that they pose to the public ? Something more to hide ? No citizenship lawsuit questions ever answered or interviews, now no questions answered about Blago or interviews by the media. There goal is to keep Americans stirred up and confused with a new issue every day, but no one is talking. That way no one is ever held accountable. Where is that over the hill reporter or should I call him narrator, Chuckles Glibson or Miss Sour Grapes Cowlic and never forget the legend in his own mind Keith Oldermano’really ? Michelle better watch her step or Barry will disassociate himself from her and under the bus she goes. He does that so well, and then claims convenient memory loss or has no knowledge of anything. Doesn’t sound like experience to me. Sorry, I forgot, he is busy getting the White House Mafia lined up. So in light of all the fun that ABC is having by keeping everyone in an uproar… I wrote a little Christmas tune for you to sing to the tune of Silver Bells:
City sidewalks there’s, closing sidewalks
Dressed in Mafia style
In the air a feeling of Bailouts
Rezko’s laughing, Blago’s gassing
Meeting more obstacles
And on every street corner you’ll hear
YES WE CAN…YES WE CAN
SPREAD THE WEALTH IN MY CITY
DING A LINGS…FEEL MY STING
SOON IT WILL BE PAY UP DAY
Strings of Lawsuits
From some old Coots
Make us see lots of Red
As the SCOTUS rush
Home with their payoffs
Feel the bills crunch
Can’t afford Lunch
This is Barry’s Big Plan
But above all the Hunger, you’ll hear
YES WE CAN…YES WE CAN
SPREAD THE WEALTH IN MY CITY
DING A LINGS…FEEL MY STING
SOON IT WILL BE PAY UP DAY
Posted by: lotzahair | December 22, 2008, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Didn’t realize this was such a big deal. But take the time to read the posts above. People who cannot even speak proper English are posting on the affairs of America. Maybe my English is bad, too. Please save us, Jesus.
Posted by: JD | December 22, 2008, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
All,
Some compare the Blago-Obama scandal to Watergate, however, there really is no comparision:
Watergate – Repubs spied on the Dem Convention, did not receive personal gain, got caught, and the rabid liberal media went after them
Blago-Obama – They attempted to get “their gal” into the Senate seat, Blago receives personal gain, and Obama gets another locked vote. The left-wing media will sweep it under the rug and no one will be held accountable except for a fall guy.
No comparison.
Posted by: Joe | December 22, 2008, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
All we have heard from Obama and his minions can best be paraphrased in the famous words of the greatest prevaracator “I did not have sex with that woman”
Posted by: Colnzgprnts | December 22, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
All we have heard from Obama and his minions can best be paraphrased in the famous words of the greatest prevaracator “I did not have sex with that woman”
Posted by: Colnzgprnts | December 22, 2008, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Joe,
I talk exception to your characterization that Watergate was a “picnic” and Nixon was an Angel.
My parents, both prominent Berkeley Profs, have told me that Watergate was a monumental liberal opportunity to show how evil the Repubs are. Just look at Nixon – he got us into Vietnam and left it to JFK and LBJ to get us out. Learn your facts.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 23, 2008, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Carramea: This IS the USA…this IS capitalism….this IS this forum “counting you out”
Any questions?
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As I recall James we were running at a surplus under the Clinton years and most of us were working. What has happened the last 8 years is not what the founding fathers has had in mine. What has happened the last 20 years a class society run by the rich ceos is not what I want
If it means a bit of socialism so be it. The Greedy Wall Street people show they have NO trouble with socialism , nor Sarah Palin and the Alaskans that get their share of the till everyyear.
IF this is capitalism count me out
Posted by: Carramea | Dec 21, 2008 10:37:39 AM
Posted by: Frank W. | December 23, 2008, 12:05 am 12:05 am
As I recall James we were running at a surplus under the Clinton years and most of us were working.
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Carramea,
You nailed this one. Socialist policies – led by Clinton and now Obama – will create more jobs and make Amerika great! My parents told me that Cuba and the Soviet Union simply did not implement Socialism right – but Obama is really smart and can do this.
My friends and I will get extra money from the rich through Obama’s policies -we need to support him.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 23, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
As I recall James we were running at a surplus under the Clinton years and most of us were working.
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Carramea,
You nailed this one. Socialist policies – led by Clinton and now Obama – will create more jobs and make Amerika great! My parents told me that Cuba and the Soviet Union simply did not implement Socialism right – but Obama is really smart and can do this.
My friends and I will get extra money from the rich through Obama’s policies -we need to support him.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 23, 2008, 12:13 am 12:13 am
All democrats are felons that voted for obama you cowards.
Posted by: Garrett Schueler | December 23, 2008, 12:43 am 12:43 am
To the Idiot that said President Nixon got us into Vietnam, what School did you go to??? And you said J.F. Kennedy and LBJ got us out of Vietnam. Lyndon Baines Johnson escalated the War in Vietnam and sent over 400,000 thousand troops and would not end it. President Nixon finally did bring our Soldiers home you damn Moron. How stupid can some of you people be?? Another Dumb ASS Democrat Liberal NUT Job!! God help us all!!
PETE
Posted by: PETE | December 23, 2008, 1:37 am 1:37 am
This may be the first president to have to seek a pardon prior to being sworn into office. And with his Chicago political background, this is sure to be the tip of the iceberg.
Posted by: RandalH | December 23, 2008, 1:46 am 1:46 am
Well now that Barry is in sunny Hawaii maybe he can clear his thoughts and have some recall about Blago…Or did Blago go with him ??? ABC – the ALL Barack Channel – says that they took friends with them and rented 3 multi-million dollar houses. That would be a good secluded spot to work on those bedtime stories, I mean answer to the Blago questions. Or maybe they will visit the attending Physician at the unknown hospital, where he wasn’t born hmmmmmm, maybe a tour to the vault for a little BC doctoring. No visit to Grandma or brother in Kenya for Christmas, hmmmmm, Hawaii was the ultimate choice. How convenient. Did I hear Economic crisis ? I thought he would be feeding the hungry in some soup kitchen. Oh I forgot …that only happens when you are campagning. Wonder if Michelle is proud of America yet ?
Posted by: lotzahair | December 23, 2008, 1:50 am 1:50 am
I listened to Obama’s news conference about Health Care reform and he sounded pretty convincing about his statements that he had no contact with the Governor Blagojevich regarding this (Senate Seat) matter.
So, one needs to ask oneself “Does this make sense?” for if true paints Obama as somewhat incompetent for at least 2 reasons. First, this is Obama’s seat, the last 2 years of his term. If I were the President-elect, I would have found it imperative to give my input if anything to safeguard the people of Illinois. The people of Illinois elected Obama in 2004 and what I assume was his campaign promises, values, etc. and I would at least want some input on any replacement. And second, as the newly elected President wouldn’t want to have as many Senators as possible who share your core political believes to make passage of your legislation easier? I would suspect he would want that from both the Illinois and New York Senate seats and would hope that he or his staff would be in touch with the Governors of Illinois and New York. It’s only an issue because of what Blagojevich was alleged to have done.
Which leads me to ask, “Is Obama lying”? He stated “no contact”. Did he mean no discussions or no “quid pro quo” discussions? And why would Blagojevich get caught on tape saying:
“that m – - – - – f – - – - -,” was willing to give nothing but “appreciation” if Blagojevich appointed Obama’s friend Valerie Jarrett.
Why would Axelrod change his story? Something makes the President-elect less than forthcoming.
Posted by: WhyTellTheTruth? | December 23, 2008, 2:25 am 2:25 am
You know– I could care one WHIT about who the president of the U.S. is, whether he be democrat or republican. I have consistently voted independent of party affiliation, choosing to vote for the person. Obama groupies fail to understand the critical issue is NOT political– it is CONSTITUTIONAL and goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans and who and what this nation stands for. Do we uphold the law? Or do we trample upon the very document that the framers put in place TO PROTECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU just so you can ‘win at all costs’?
Please consider taking the blinders off for a moment– Please consider that there MUST be a reason for MSM to SCRUB CLEAN several stories written prior to the news breaking, that proved Obama LIED when he said he had ‘no contact’ with Blago. POOF! Within days of the story breaking, the stories DISAPPEARED. I gave the link up the thread, but go to http://www.texasdarlin.wordpress.com and look for the story about it.
THere is nothing INHERENTLY wrong with the President ‘discussing’ the appointment with Blago– so why did he LIE about it and say he had NO CONTACT??? iT IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE and the Mainstream News Media KNOW it — and then COVERED IT UP by deleting the stories they published beforehand that said it.
Sheesh people! This isn’t even touching the fact that no one who really has a LEGITIMATE VAULT COPY of his birth certificate would hire THREE LAW FIRMS and spend HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS unless he had something to hide.
I am absolutely AMAZED at how Obama groupies are so totally in LOVE with this man and willing to take his word for everything, even with stuff like this that a person with common sense would question.
Posted by: Anonymous | December 23, 2008, 2:39 am 2:39 am
Both “parties” are responsible for my great-great grandchildren “bailing out the bankers”. Marx was right? After witnessing all the garbage go in and out of Washington over the last 45 years and listening to my parents describe the same wartime selling out and postwar lack of quality of leaders I can barely force myself to vote 3rd or 4th party. But I do. My forefathers dump tea into the bay for things far less than I endure today. Should I rush o arms or engage in civil disobedience? All because my fellow citizens have allowed themselves to be de-moralized and de-educated to the point that they couldn’t recognize truth if it bit them in the ass? Mr. Reaper fantasizes of armed revolution and claims to be a “Reagan Republican”. I would ask him why we still have a Department of Education after Reagan. Wasn’t it part of the G.O.P. plank to abolish it? And why did the Dept. of State increase in both budget and personnel by 400% in just one of his terms? And how quickly he abandoned the Grace Commission. Perhaps you drank kool-aid also. Hey don’t blame me, I voted for Ed Clark.
Posted by: prowler | December 23, 2008, 2:45 am 2:45 am
Anonymous
Well stated-
I am appalled as well. I am trying to find a website that gives a detailed job description of the Supreme Court. Why they are not upholding our constitution is beyond my wildest nightmares. I think the whole slate needs to be cleaned and get rid of this immoral, lazy bunch that sit on their ass while we pay their way, then they deny us our rights ?? They are OUR EMPLOYEES…the voters should have the say.
Posted by: lotzahair | December 23, 2008, 2:49 am 2:49 am
if someone knew there was a potential deal and chose not to participate they would still be breaking the law if they didnt report it.
Posted by: complacency | December 23, 2008, 3:54 am 3:54 am
This Obama is a genius, I gotta remember this one next time I get stopped for speeding… I’ll just have my buddy in the passenger seat “clear me of any wrongdoing”.
Nobody cares what your charade investigation “found”, Barack- we’ll wait to see what Rezko has to say to Fitz about your shenanigans with him over the 18 yrs you’ve known him, along with what’s on the FBI’s Blago tapes, and if Blago ends up singing, too… all bad news for you.
In the meantime, perhaps you can launch another investigation into why 3 news outlets and your own campaign manager said you met with Blago Nov 5th to discuss the seat… when you say you never did.
You might also want to check into who Blago’s pepes on the tapes talked to when they somehow found-out that you initially “would only give appreciation”, then later “could provide a corp. BOD position” for his wife Patti… if it wasn’t Rahm, then WHO was your liason that communicated the offer?
We are all also very curious what Blago’s staff meant on the tapes (and where they heard it) that you, Barack Obama, had to “suck it up” for a couple years… Does that mean temporarily refrain from bribing, cheating, and stealing… Chicago-style?
You can keep your silly report, maybe use it to train that new puppy we’ve heard so much about. I can’t wait till Sean Hannity gets his paws on some of those tapes, he’ll have ‘em on a loop, 24/7.
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/
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Posted by: candy | December 23, 2008, 5:12 am 5:12 am
Once again, the Republicans are wrong. President Obama is squeaky clean.
Posted by: Reality Man | December 23, 2008, 6:52 am 6:52 am
As long as the media continues to shill for the left, this country is in trouble.
Obama and company are nothing more than incompetent, inexperienced, or failed leftists. And many are corrupt crooks, as we ae now begging to see, if the media will do its job.
Posted by: ricardo maxwell | December 23, 2008, 7:01 am 7:01 am
The revolution is at hand, The clown show will end.
Posted by: Michigan Jerry | December 23, 2008, 7:14 am 7:14 am
Liar, liar, pants on fire. Somehow the school yard taunt is appropriate here. I didn’t vote for Obama because he’s black and I don’t like his wife. Anyone else care to admit the truth? Blacks are inherently corrupt and unable to adequately assess complex problems without white support. History doesn’t lie I’m afraid,people do.
Posted by: Jay | December 23, 2008, 7:34 am 7:34 am
Posted by: philospherkingtomas | Dec 22, 2008 5:48:22 PM
a lot of crazy paranoid losers out there ! hysterical! especially “ItsGonna GetNasty” blogger, take you meds and see your shrink or probation officers republicans!
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Then by all means, please do post links to the documents or confirmed information which was listed as [Not released] or [None]. I also look forward to your reply with evidence that Barack did not release his “Certificate of Live Birth” to factcheck.org instead of a true recognized, or better yet unbiased, administrator of record.
If you don’t have such information, then perhaps you should just ShThFuUp.
What is Barry Soetero aka Barrack Obama hiding:
Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released
Certification of Live Birth — Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Fransiskus Assisi School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Counterfeit
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport records for 1981 Pakistan trip — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvoice/Birth_Certificate.htm
When the Obama campaign, after several unrequited requests, did finally submit the “Certificate of Live Birth”, in an effort to more formally properly vet and lend credence to the Senator’s run for the Presidency – which governing body did they submit it to? Was it to the Board of Elections? No, not there. Was it to the Federal Elections Commission? No, not there either. Well then it must have been to the Democratic National Committee, right? Wrong again. The Obama campaign chose as their advocate-for-legitimacy, none other than http://www.factcheck.org.
Posted by: ItsGonna GetNasty | December 23, 2008, 8:29 am 8:29 am
To the Idiot that said President Nixon got us into Vietnam, what School did you go to??? And you said J.F. Kennedy and LBJ got us out of Vietnam.
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My Berkeley parents and my K-12 teachers (from an elite school similar to Sidwell Friends) all told me that Nixon was evil and that JFK is a hero like Obama. They also love to bash bush all day long.
Given the above, all problems can be traced back to Republicans and if they can’t we need to continue to revise history. Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Frank our the future! We must transfer more money from the rich elites.
Posted by: SuzyTheLiberal | December 23, 2008, 9:45 am 9:45 am
OMG! Jay you are clearly missing a few brick shy of a full load! This has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE!! Geez! Why is it that when someone can’t address or answer a position they ALWAYS RESORT TO THE RACE CARD?!?!?
The questions being asked are those questions that THE MAINSTREAM NEWS MEDIA SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKING ALL ALONG– BUT DIDN’T. Not only that, they willingly COVERED UP INCRIMINATING OR NEGATIVE STORIES about Obama! Don’t you GET it???
This whole charade, besides being placed squarely on Obama’s shoulders for his FAILURE to provide a simple document that would make it all go away, and for his obvious deception and dishonest answers about Blago-
this whole thing ALSO FALLS SQUARELY UPON THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA’S shoulders too. Journalists have a CODE OF ETHICS that they are “supposed” to live by, and one of those ethical codes is the investigate diligently so that the TRUTH can come out. They have CLEARLY FAILED in that duty, and it is because of their failure that we have all the Obama groupies who refuse to believe the truth because “if would be all over the news if it were truth.”
Well guess what, people?! The MSM is in bed with him! The ones pulling the strings for Obama are also the cut from the same cloth– just as liberal as he, and controlled by the elite.
Mark my words— when the MSM see what they have done to our country, they will be SORE WITH GRIEF over what they have done, and how they have BETRAYED US AND THEIR COUNTRY, just as Judas did!
Posted by: Anonymous | December 23, 2008, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Jeff Fish – you stated -
Obama had a very cozy relationship with Rod Blagojevich -
Do Your Research – you will find that these two mean could not stand and barely tolerated each other.
Posted by: CJ | December 23, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Mr. Obama used leverage that he had seldom employed — publicly, anyway — and strongly urged Mr. Jones to bypass Mr. Blagojevich and approve the ethics bill, banning the so-called pay-for-play system of influence peddling in Illinois.
In my last post I typed mean instead of men – sorry for the typing error.
When the Illinois Senate passed the measure by 55 to 0 on Sept. 22, with Mr. Jones reversing his position, Mr. Obama praised the move as one creating “a tougher ethics law that will reduce the influence of money over our state’s political process.” Mr. Obama’s intervention deepened a rift between him and Mr. Blagojevich that had been growing for some time.
The criminal complaint unsealed Tuesday underscored the acrimony between the two men. Recorded telephone calls showed Mr. Blagojevich being far less than respectful when discussing the president-elect and voicing frustration at his inability to advance beyond the governor’s office.
Posted by: CJ | December 23, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am
Here barefoot boy and all other conspiracy theory bots.
#1
Friday, October 31, 2008
Obama born in Hawaii!
Even the ultra-conservative Washington Times runs this story.
State declares Obama birth certificate genuine
Originally published 06:43 p.m., October 31, 2008, updated 06:36 p.m., October 31, 2008
HONOLULU (AP) – State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently.
She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.
Read the rest of the story here
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/31/state-declares-obama-birth-certificate-genuine-1/
Of course the right wing people will still find some way to doubt this. After all they know all about kerning and stuff.
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The State of Hawaii has affirmatively declared that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, and that the appropriate state officials have visibly inspected the long form birth certificate signed by the attending physician who delivered him at 7:42 PM on August 4, 1961 in a Honolulu, Hawaii hospital.
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A Hawaiian official has confirmed she has “personally seen and verified” that the state “has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate” – meaning Obama was born in the Aloha state, and is therefore an American citizen.
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai’i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record,” reads an Oct. 31 statement from Hawaii’s Dr. Chiyome Fukino, who heads the Hawaii office that oversees health records — including birth certificates.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino said in the three paragraph statement.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai’i,” the statement concludes.
Does this mean Obama was born in Hawaii?
“Yes,” said Hawaii Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo, in both email and telephone interviews with the Tribune. “That’s what Dr. Fukino is saying.”
Posted by: CJ | December 23, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
The President-Elect’s Birth Certificate would be a non-issue if he would just have it released.
What’s so special about it anyway? Just release it already. Duh.
Posted by: Pen | December 23, 2008, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Let’s cut all the BS and just impeach Obama and his Chicago thugs.
Posted by: Johnathan | December 23, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Hell’s bells! Whence cometh the Hoobama-ski cookie? Outa Chicago, man, that’s in good old Cook (Crook?) County, along the shores of Lake Michigan. Chicago/Cook County, land of Capone, his predecessors and his successors, and the Daley Family Dynasty—the source of the ruling Illinois royals, both familial and “them what’s” appointed, via Royal Decree, to lead the Illinois Demoncrat Party. As a Southern Illinois, St. Clair, Williamson and Madison (and “Cook”) county, extract, within whose lifespan (83 years; two+ living near Chi’s Lake Shore Drive) so many Demoncrats, so-called GOP conservatives and presumed Independents have made it into court to answer to charges related to “political (mostly financial, not sexual) philandering”, this once downstater “jess kain’t kredut no repohtuh who sez thar ain’t bin, wuz no hanky-panky hawg traden goin on” over that beautiful, most politically and financially valuable Senate seat Hoobama-ski “supposedly” won fair and square several years past. Nope, by golly, sirs and madams, “thet dawg don hunt”. And to those of you out there who bought into that blatant “Change” blather dished out for the Demoncrat party primary and during the national election . . . being stupid is no excuse.
But don’t you Country Club-like thinking GOPers believe you’re off of my long cast hook: you bought into the idiotic, prissy, political tiptoeing we witnessed during the GOP primary and our national referendum—when Sarah Palin was the only bright star, especially for conservatives, in either party’s team. And not only did you C.C.GOPers unjustly vilify Governor Palin during the campaign, but you (and your hangers-on, including a bloke, Ed Rollins, a regular on “Lou Dobbs Tonight”) are still treating her in like fashion, as is even her perfidious running mate, John McCain, whom I admire/respect for his service to our country, but whose outlandishly liberal tendencies and activities, including his current brown-nosing attempt to endear himself with Hoobama-ski and his fellow left wingers, I detest. O Johnnie, Johnnie lad, sure and you’re breakin’ this Irish, Scotch-Irish, English, Cherokee’s heart.
Bah!
James O. Dirden, CSM, USA (Ret.)
Posted by: Jamesod2 | December 23, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
We all know that even if someone on Obamas team suggested some sort of payment to Blago nothing would become of it. So why bother with news that will not make a bit of difference to any of us.
But contrast the Blogo event as to what has occured in the ranks of our representatives; A housing meltdown that has drug the rest of the world to the brink of ruin. Over and over we see the players discussing fannie and freddie and over and over we see who pushed for reform and who blocked it. We see Raines raking in big bucks, Barney flinging with a regulator at Freddie, Dodd raking in big bucks for his campaign and reaping the benefits of a sweetheart mortgage deal, Schumer starting the run on Indy Mac and now we have Madoff, a large political contributor ,bilking billions from investors.
Why not cover a story that has some real corruption in it and help rid this country of dirt bags who are in it to line their pockets?
Posted by: david | December 23, 2008, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm
Debbie – you stated
I forgot to mention that when Obama is inaugurated he will then have the power to fire Fitzgerald. Do you think Obama will get rid of Fitzgerald for investigating all his friends in Chicago? Whatever Obama decides is quite alright with democrats. -
President Elect Obama has already stated publicly that he has asked Fitzpatrick to stay on as he is doing a great job – any other questions?
Posted by: CJ | December 23, 2008, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Thanks alot ABC news for censoring my posts so frequently. You are trying to control the media and the people by doing this. If a comment does not “fit in” with your articles point( and of course it must agree with you) It is censored or even taken out completely. This is sad that ABC news must do this, because they are trying to be an unbiased and valid news source…….well I have news for you guys ABC, you are just as bad as FOX news- which is the absolute worst news source known to humankind. I will not come to your low-end news source unless it is to write an article like this. You are pathetic, and should take comments OFF of your site ENTIRELY because you are manipulating news and what people are really saying. Great work geniuses.
Posted by: tehevo | December 23, 2008, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
This is more of the same from ABC NEWS as usual. filling your heads with cover-up lies. Thanks alot ABC news for censoring my posts so frequently. You are trying to control the media and the people by doing this. If a comment does not “fit in” with your articles point( and of course it must agree with you) It is censored or even taken out completely. This is sad that ABC news must do this, because they are trying to be an unbiased and valid news source…….well I have news for you guys ABC, you are just as bad as FOX news- which is the absolute worst news source known to humankind. I will not come to your low-end news source unless it is to write an article like this. You are pathetic, and should take comments OFF of your site ENTIRELY because you are manipulating news and what people are really saying. Great work geniuses.
Posted by: tehevo | December 23, 2008, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Susan you stated – Obama was born out of wedlock
Do your research before you run your mouth – Barack Obama’s parents WERE MARRIED at the time of his birth.
Posted by: CJ | December 23, 2008, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Reaper – here it is again just for you.
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Friday, October 31, 2008
Obama born in Hawaii!
Even the ultra-conservative Washington Times runs this story.
State declares Obama birth certificate genuine
Originally published 06:43 p.m., October 31, 2008, updated 06:36 p.m., October 31, 2008
HONOLULU (AP) – State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.
Fukino says that no state official, including Republican Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently.
She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.
Read the rest of the story here
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/31/state-declares-obama-birth-certificate-genuine-1/
Of course the right wing people will still find some way to doubt this. After all they know all about kerning and stuff.
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The State of Hawaii has affirmatively declared that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, and that the appropriate state officials have visibly inspected the long form birth certificate signed by the attending physician who delivered him at 7:42 PM on August 4, 1961 in a Honolulu, Hawaii hospital.
#3
A Hawaiian official has confirmed she has “personally seen and verified” that the state “has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate” – meaning Obama was born in the Aloha state, and is therefore an American citizen.
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai’i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record,” reads an Oct. 31 statement from Hawaii’s Dr. Chiyome Fukino, who heads the Hawaii office that oversees health records — including birth certificates.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,” Fukino said in the three paragraph statement.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai’i,” the statement concludes.
Does this mean Obama was born in Hawaii?
“Yes,” said Hawaii Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo, in both email and telephone interviews with the Tribune. “That’s what Dr. Fukino is saying.”
Posted by: CJ | December 23, 2008, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
pathetic-since there was no wrongdoing by Obama or his staff we’ve gone back to the citizenship issue. the supreme court threw the suit out of court into a D.C. recycling bin without even a hearing, LOL. why do you want to drag Obama bad so much, does it feel that good to you, to trash someone. sad really.
Posted by: Paul Wall | December 24, 2008, 8:11 am 8:11 am
Paul Well – I agree, they appear to be throwing out everything they can think of in hopes that something sticks. I reposted the birth certificate statements to respond to those who continue to cut and paste only those sections of the Hawaii statement that fit their theory that Hawaii never stated that he was not born there which they most certainly did say – very clearly I would say.
For those still in doubt pay special attention to #2….
Sadly, the Obama haters will continue to deny the truth, create theories, lies and suppositions and hope that if they tell it long enough, that they will actually get people to believe their theories instead of the truth.
Have a very merry christmas and a happy new year.
Posted by: CJ | December 24, 2008, 9:57 am 9:57 am
From HotAir:
POLITICO: OBAMA’S BLAGO REPORT CREATES MORE QUESTIONS THAN IT ANSWERS
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/12/24/politico-obamas-blago-report-creates-more-questions-than-it-answers/
Posted by: Michelle | December 24, 2008, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Hey Reaper… why don’t YOU produce YOUR original certificate from your birth year? Shouldn’t be too hard… and I expect the ORIGINAL, not a copy.
WHY are you hiding this from us? Are you a terrorist? A traitor? Only those types would hold their cert back, right?
Posted by: Anonymous | December 24, 2008, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
This story is hilarious…Does ABC really think anyone would believe any thing they write or I should say speculate on…LOL…ABC = All Barack Channel – Others report 21 times contacted – still others are saying only 2 aides were spoken to – nevertheless they will continue to lick their new little pup.
Posted by: lotzahair | December 24, 2008, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
lotzahair – you stated they rented 3 million dollar mansions – do your research, they rented 3 bunglows – not mansions and there is a big difference between a mansion and a bungalow.
Posted by: CJ | December 24, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
lotzahair – you stated they rented 3 million dollar mansions – do your research, they rented 3 bunglows – not mansions and there is a big difference between a mansion and a bungalow.
Posted by: CJ | December 24, 2008, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
There are other news sources besides ABC – they said mansions fit for a king. Now go correct someone else CJ, and while you are at it do some research yourself.
Posted by: lotzahair | December 25, 2008, 4:40 am 4:40 am
Hey lotzahair – did not get my info from ABC but I did my research – here are the rates.
Beach Bungalow
$129/Night $840/Week
Palm Cabana
$149/Night $980/Week
Holiday Rates
Dec. 15, 2009 – Jan. 10, 2010 • 2-Week Minimum
Beach Bungalow
$139/Night $900/Week
Palm Cabana
$159/Night $1050/Week
Posted by: CJ | December 25, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
In a previous comment, I noted that George’s “exclusive” would soon be contradicted by news that Rahm Emanuel had more that one contact with Blagojevich. Willie Brown, of California Democrat fame, reported in his weekly column that Blago told him that he “had many heated” conversations with Emanuel. So much for George and his sources. Obviously George and his sources are just Democrat spinners and propagandists.
http://strongasanoxandnearlyassmart.blogspot.com/2008/12/stephanopoulos-now-working-for-obama.html
Posted by: Major Mike | December 27, 2008, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
“Willie Brown, of California Democrat fame, reported in his weekly column that Blago told him that he “had many heated” conversations with Emanuel.”
Willie Brown? Lol. Okay. And exactly what were these “heated conversations” about? That might be relevant. Typical Republican misdirection.
Posted by: Silky | December 29, 2008, 10:31 am 10:31 am
“The President-Elect’s Birth Certificate would be a non-issue if he would just have it released.
What’s so special about it anyway? Just release it already. Duh.”
It is a non-issue. The FEC okayed it. He and they have moved on. It’s best that everybody else does the same.
Posted by: Silky | December 29, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am
It is truly beyond me why any sensible person would be against term limits for all elected officials. They all are corrupt, and the system is such that only corrupt people rise to the top.
Every elected official has committed legal, moral or ethical crimes to get where he/she is today, the only distinction is that some have been charged and others have not yet been.
The point of term limits is to throw each crop of bums out before they have time to master and pervert the system for their own personal gain.
Posted by: billp | December 31, 2008, 3:05 am 3:05 am
It is very disturbing to read such partisan disagreement and generalization based not on fact but on feeling and innuendo.Any idiot can understand the dismay and disappointment in 2000 when voters got the shock that Bush “stole” the election to become prez as well as right wingers feeling the same dismay and disappointment to get the shock that America had elected its first Black prez. Now..let’s move on. We have a lot of issues to work on, just for our survival..this is common ground for us all and should be our guide in terms of behavior, attitude,and determining what each of us can do to improve the current situation.This must be our primary focus,given the really critical situation we have so many issues threatening the world as well as our nation. Since the election, the world is proud of us again..can we all just try to live up to it and a higher standard ? Remember we all meet our fate together in this country and the vibes you send out into the universe are the same ones you get back to affect your own life.
Posted by: 1whocare | January 3, 2009, 3:14 am 3:14 am
It is very disturbing to read such partisan disagreement and generalization based not on fact but on feeling and innuendo.Any idiot can understand the dismay and disappointment in 2000 when voters got the shock that Bush “stole” the election to become prez as well as right wingers feeling the same dismay and disappointment to get the shock that America had elected its first Black prez. Now..let’s move on. We have a lot of issues to work on, just for our survival..this is common ground for us all and should be our guide in terms of behavior, attitude,and determining what each of us can do to improve the current situation.This must be our primary focus,given the really critical situation we have so many issues threatening the world as well as our nation. Since the election, the world is proud of us again..can we all just try to live up to it and a higher standard ? Remember we all meet our fate together in this country and the vibes you send out into the universe are the same ones you get back to affect your own life.
Posted by: 1whocare | January 3, 2009, 3:14 am 3:14 am
Boy, this little scandal sure has you Obamabots up in arms. Stop your whining and realize Obama is a sleaze and that is why this is coming out now, even before he is sworn in! Your magic black man is nothing more than a sleazy Chicago style thug who will have more dirt come up as time goes by.
Posted by: Basdboy | January 3, 2009, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
This is certainly refreshing to hear. I know these guys in the Obama administration are from Chicago and I know from the reputation that Chicago politics has that they’re probably not the most innocent people, but at least they seem to be clean in this particular case.
Posted by: Jump Starter | January 10, 2010, 4:02 am 4:02 am