PEBO Reax to Israeli Airstrikes in Gaza

What is president geo. bush saying?

There will never be justice for Palestinians. When even thoughtful and wise leaders such as Obama can’t condemn the deaths of children from Israeli bombs, it’s time to recognize that America will never promote justice and balance in the region. There is no justification for Hamas’ violence but Israel has shown a disregard for civilian lives (cf Lebanon).

Keshava, that’s one thing that never makes it to the “news.” Or the fact that for every Israeli child who dies, a dozen Palestinian children die. Not teen “extremists,” but preschoolers and babies. Who’s bombing whose homes? Both sides, but strangely enough, more rockets and bulldozers with “Israel” stamped on the side.
I’m for neither, I just prefer my info unbiased. But that’s just me.

“President-elect Obama is closely monitoring global events, including the situation in Gaza, but there is one president at a time,” said Brooke Anderson
YOU SAID A MOUTHFUL, LADY! BUSH IS STILL PRESIDENT!

When Hamas and the Palestinians practice their “peaceful” religion and act peaceful, then will they be afforded peace.
Until then, if you shoot rockets and mortars at civilians, expect retaliation.
Plain and simple.

Excuse Mr. Tapper, but what does “PEBO Reax” mean? I thought this ABC News website is supposed to be written in English.

Why is genocide committed against African americans condemned when genocide commmitted against sematic Arabs are applauded? Has ANYBODY ever stopped for just ONE moment and asked this fundamental question. Women, children, and the elderly are NOT “suicide bombers”? And yet Israel gets cheers while a nation without and army, air force or any means to defend itself other than suicide missions is the real monster? I think “cognitive dissonace” over the middle eastern apartheid and genocide knows NO bounds! To quote a President you love SO much: “How DARE you!!!”

Excuse Mr. Tapper, but what does “PEBO Reax” mean? I thought this ABC News website is supposed to be written in English.
Posted by: Jim | Dec 27, 2008 4:28:28 PM
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This is new english….get use to it.

So now a bunch of chuckleheads are going to solve the Middle East crisis by screaming at each other on a blog? Sure.
No one should be surprised at Obama’s reaction. He is first and foremost a politician, burnished in the bare knuckled schools of Chicago ward rooms. He will walk the line here as best as he can.

where is Pres Bush?, Oh yes! in his usual spot on a milk box for missing people at your local quickie-mart.
can anyone name me a more useless person out here, And he just happen to hold the most powerful job in the world.*sigh*

America has proven time and time again that it is part of the problem, not the solution, in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And Obama is clearly determined to continue along that path.
Hamas are bad guys, sure. And so are the Israeli authorities who have been suppressing a people for half a century in all kinds of nasty ways that seldom make it into the news.
If only the international society had the power to intervene… But guess who’s stopping them.

sophillyfatz
What about Mexico sending hundreds of rockets into the US to force all Americans out of Texas? How should Texas react? Would anyone condemn the United States for fighting back?

Obama is not yet in the White House with Michelle. And we can be obsolutely sure, that after Obama will take over the White House, he will do the right thing with Hamas and Israel.Obama never expirienced war, he never served in military even one day, but he will know exactly what to do.He is very expirienced in organising, and when he will organize his special Obama civilian forces, I hope he will call me, and give me a real good job,maybe in his inner circle.

As long as Israel continues land grabs for illegal settlements, demarcation within the territories, and collective punishment, they will be guilty of war crimes. I used to be a strong supporter of Israel because I bought into the traditional neoconservative ideas. As of a couple of years ago, I have changed my tune. I don’t support the tactics of Hamas or the IDF. Just more BS.

Ummm, Ben Straub, in case you didn’t know, there are no illegal Israeli settlements in Gaza anymore. In fact, Israel completely withdrew from Gaza, for all the good it did them.

I am sick and tired of the United States always siding with Israel. I am no fan of Hamas, but I do sympathize with the Palestinian people who are treated like second class citizens. The Israeli government is just as bad as the terrorists they are fighting against.

Hey John, it’s a shame your bubble burst. Do you know that GWB is still president? It was Bushy who sent our troops into Iraq on bogus WMD claims. That has made America despised around the world, and not just the Arab world but also Europe. Please get a clue about the facts.

The story that the corporate media are forgetting (and ignoring) here, is that Palestinians are also entitled to act in defense of their nation, what little of it remains habitable. People react to being attacked, and that is the reason for the Hamas actions. I do not condone violence of any sort, but when a people have nothing left to lose, where do they turn?
Israel has dropped a quarter million pounds of high grade military ordnance on Gaza, at a time when thousands of kids were getting out of school. This was in retaliation for, what in comparison, were like bottle rockets.
The deplorable acts by Israelis, which happen on an hourly basis in the occupied territories are never reported in the US media, while every single infraction by Hamas and the Palestinians are seized upon and milked for all they are worth. Add to the notion that to criticize Israeli policies is akin to “anti-semitism”, that they have flouted dozens of UN security council resolutions over the decades, that their nuclear facilities remain off limits to inspectors, that some of their leaders have been members of a known terrorist group (Irgun), and that they launched a war on S. Lebanon based on lies (re. the “kidnapping of two soldiers”) and more, and that all this despicable activity is funded by the US taxpayer to the tune of $billions each year…. and there really is not hope whatsoever for the hapless, terrified citizens of Gaza.

Every US taxypayer has the responsibility to know why Palestinians try to hold on to their territory and society. Ignorance does not excuse your guilt. Israel’s destruction of Palestinian society is done in your name, with the weapons your congress provided with no questions asked and with the American media as acting head cheerleader. Understanding this problem is not like brain surgery and contrary to the popularly held U.S. notion, this is not an “age old” conflict. It is about modern European/American colonialism and greed.

Mara,
I am one that says all aid should end as long as the settlements and demarcation exist in the West Bank. As our economy continues to tank, our foreign aid will shrink dramatically.

The slaughter of Palestinian children today is a public relations disaster for Israel. Attempts to portray this nuclear power as the victim are laughable.
Israel’s disregard for the humanity of Palestinians became obvious a long time ago.

Eli – The settlements make the Israeli government a terrorist entity as well. Peace between two terrorist organizations is tough. By the way Hamas will get sympathy for the Palestinians thanks to Israel’s ridiculous response to homemade rockets that killed one and injured what 4 or so.

Eli – We agree on the aid. I believe as our economy tanks we will hopefully give ourselves aid.

Huh, Israel defeated the Palestinians along with all of the other nations of the middle east that attempted to annihilate them in the war of 67. Israel was not the agressor in this war. They have given back most of the land that they took in a justified defense of their nation. The small section of land they continue to hold they do so for their protection. Hamas has made clear that the decision by the Israelis was a wise one. Until the vilence directed toward Israel by Hamas stops then Israel is justified in its actions of self defense.
Israel was established by the United Nations and has a right to exist. They have a right to exist as established in the actions of the UN. Hamas rejects this mandate from the UN and wants to destroy Israel. They should instead respect the UN resolution and work towards peace. They will not because they are a terrorist organization.

Also who can really call how the Palestinians survive in Gaza living? surrounded by walls, not type of rights.

Huh, the Palestinians have chosen violence instead of maintaining their own moral authority. They have rejected the approach of MLK to their own detriment.
The settlements are not permanent. Israel will in time give them up if the Palestinians agree that Israel has a right to exist, which Hamas currently rejects. The settlements are a way to put pressure on the leadership of the Palestinian people to break from their rigid position if they hope to ever reclaim their land, again land lost when they attacked Israel in 67.
I believe Abbas understands this and will work toward an agreement that allows both sides to prosper. Hamas will never agree to this. They will seek to destroy Israel. If they succeed and take ownership of the Israeli nuclear arsenal they will in all likelihood use those weapons against us here in the US or our interests overseas.

Eli – I appreciate your concerns. Quite frankly I think nukes will be used here in the US as well. Since we are the only ones who have used nukes on civilian populaces and attack someone new every other year or so, we might have one coming. And here we are telling Iran they can’t have one, you know that country that hasn’t preemptively attacked someone in 250 years or so.
As far as the settlements go. I see it very differently than you do. The Israeli government encourages more and more people to move into the West Bank and Golan Heights with monetary incentives. I don’t buy what you are saying about these outposts as being temporary. Just look at the rampant increase in settlement activity just in the last decade.
I used to recite many of the points you make. I have come to see our foreign policy as morally bankrupt. I am a Ron Paul supporter because of his adherence to the Golden Role as a pillar of problem solving. I see Israel and the US as exhibiting belligerence that gets some “blowback”. Now the suicide bombings will start again.

duh,
no. your analogy does not hold up. hamas is an organized crime unit that hides behind women and children. again, my question is why is it rational to believe that israel is responsible for feeding hamas’s people instead of using their money to build missiles to launch at the israeli people? as far as your other comment regarding preemptive strikes.. based on what you are saying right now about the palestinians being allowed to repeatedly and continually fire missiles at israel before israel struck back, i don’t believe you know what a preemptive strike is.

Common Sense – It wasn’t an analogy. I only stated that it is difficult to control all segments of your population. If a renegade group launches rockets into Israel, it is difficult to stop. You are obviously on the Israeli side. I believe that it is Israel that is the organized crime unit that continues to fence in these Palestinians. Yes they have left Gaza because of violence and the monetary costs of keeping things going there. However, the West Bank is a partitioned mess. You have to look at the root causes of problems. This rocket attack and response is not the root problem. The root problem is occupation.

Huh ,you are wrong. the root problem is religion ,namely islam and judaism and the often violent clashing that has been going on between their supporting factions over the centuries.
ultimately both religions see the city of jerusalem as particularly non-negotiable territory ,both see it as religious hallowed ground ,and neither is ready to cede any amount of jerusalem to “the enemy”.

I agree with A.J.’s point of view.
The US authorities are so biased in favor of Israel. They can’t get away from the idea that Israelis have ALWAYS been the victims of conflicts. Listen to the statement from the White House: “The United States urges Israel to avoid civilian casualties as it targets Hamas in Gaza,” Wow! This means that they are approving the Israelis’ attacks on Gaza as long as they avoid civilian casualties. And how about this: “Hamas’s continued rocket attacks into Israel must cease if the violence is to stop. Hamas must end its terrorist activities if it wishes to play a role in the future of the Palestinian people,” Why are US officials condemning the Hamas when they are the victims of the Israeli’s attack!? I am not supportive of Hamas necessarily, but I just want to criticize the US officials’ biased view on Israel.

huh,
People here on H1b visas are occupying my country and stealing American jobs and crippling our economy. That does NOT give me the right to start throwing missiles at India or H1b body shops! If I were to do something as uncivilized as that, India would have EVERY right to fly planes over my uncivilized arse to put a stop to it.
I am nobody’s Israeli lover (nor hater), but what part of defending yourself and human rights don’t you get? Maybe its me that isn’t getting a full picture, but I’ve read up on both sides and I don’t see how Hamas is justified or how Israel should be shunned for defending itself against terrorism.
The whole thing is disturbing. Hamas seems to want to make Israel the villain, here. But, look up some of what is being propagandized on middle east tv and you’ll see why I am suspect of media displays of protests against Israel on this.
Hamas’s propaganda remind me of the hateful RNC campaign ads that ran during the election campaign. You be the judge of what you find should you view what’s out there on the ‘net.
I only hope that the Palistinians rise up against their real enemy; it doesn’t look like their enemy is Israel.

Carlo – Well stated sir. That is the underlying problem.

Huh, some people still think the earth is flat…i cant and wont argue with them.
please do yourself a favor and do some (evidently) much-needed research . if you are objective and thorough you will find that the current problem(s) had their “roots” sometime prior to 1947 i believe…

The Palestinians deserve our sympathy. Hamas does not. Hamas has chosen to align themselves with Iran, Syria, and Hezbollah. They are thugs who believe violence and provacation is the best way to change their society. This approach should be rejected by everyone.
If the leadership of the Palestinian people, whether that is Hamas or Fattah, rejects violence and stops lobbing bombs into Israel then Israel should be held to account for any break in peace. This simply has not happened. Hamas continues to try to provoke Israel and then tries to gain sympathy when Israel responds. Hamas has betrayed the Palestinian people – it really is that simply. They must go if we are to ever have a chance to resolve this conflict.

Israel/US has made Hamas into the scape goat for their own failed policies which lie at the root of Middle East violence.

“Israel/US has made Hamas into the scape goat for their own failed policies which lie at the root of Middle East violence.” Palestinians condoning suicide bombing, a failure of Palestianians and/or Arabs to invest in Palestianian public education infrastructure or in Palestianian corporate investments is a failure by Israel or Americans? No, Palestianians and/or Arabs need to accept responsibilities for themselves instead of blaming everyone else as well as their own bigotry towards Israelis. Israelis need to accept responsibilities for their own bigotry towards Arabs as well.

Eli – Palestinians disregard for the welfare of thier own children is what is evident. An anyone forget that these are the people who strap bombs to thier own kids?
And Peace – you really need to read more news if you think the Palestinians don’t use women and children as suicide bombing terrorists. There’s some lovely footage of Palestinian families rejoicing about that very thing, and parading thier toddlers around in bomb vests.

Soon those of you who voted for Obama will see your mistake. Obama is inept, speaks well but inept.

“Huffington Post has selectively filtered and censored comments by its readers that condemn the actions of Israel, and even suspended the accounts of myself and two other people I know. Not for profanity or any normal reason for censoring its readers, just FOR CRITICIZING ISRAEL’S ACTIONS.”
Actually, HuffPo’s been “in the ‘heavily censored mainstream media’ column” since sometime during the primaries — it’s the “Obama” machine way. During the same period, CommonDreams — supposedly more leftish than HuffPo — completely shut down Comments for a few days, then blocked comments from being viewable without a (traceable) click from the reader.
Reading The One’s comments here should lead those who are interested in free expression to think about stock-piling copy paper — for that fast-approaching day when it seems increasingly likely that the only remaining internet site accepting comments may belong to the “government”, and the government belongs to a mob-friendly organization from Chicago.
Oil up those ditto machines, kids. Yer gonna need ‘em.