RNC links Obama and Blagojevich in Web Video
From Matt Jaffe and Sunlen Miller:
It’s been three days since President-elect Barack Obama said at a press conference that "in the next few days" he would share the facts of what contacts his staff had with Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who was arrested last Tuesday and charged with attempting to sell Obama’s vacant U.S. Senate seat.
It seems Republicans are getting impatient.
Today the Republican National Committee released a video highlighting links between Obama and Blagojevich.
The two-minute web video, called "Questions Remain", urges Obama to disclose more information about contacts between his aides and Blagojevich.
It also references contacts between Obama’s incoming Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and the governor.
The RNC said the video "highlights the evolving explanations delivered by President-elect Obama and his advisors concerning their contact with the embattled and scandal-plagued Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich despite Obama’s promises to instill greater transparency and confidence in government."
At a press conference in Chicago on Thursday, the President-elect promised forthcoming information, "I had no contact with the governor’s office. I did not speak to the governor about these issues. That I know for certain. What I want to do is to gather all the facts about any staff contacts that I might — may have — that may have taken place between the transition office and the governor’s office. And we’ll have those in the next few days, and we’ll present them. But what I’m absolutely certain about is that our office had no involvement in any deal-making around my Senate seat. That I’m absolutely certain of."
The Obama Transition Team did not reply to questions about the RNC’s video when asked.
Also this weekend, the Illinois GOP started a website – FriendsofBlago.com – to link a dozen different state Democrats to Blagojevich.
In a not-so-subtle dig at the President-elect, the Republicans’ website rips off Obama’s "change" mantra, asking visitors to "Join the fight – Bring change to Illinois."
- Matt Jaffe and Sunlen Miller

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Posted by: HopeForChange | December 14, 2008, 10:46 am 10:46 am
We got rid of two corrupt politicians from Illinois this year… one is going to trial, the other to the White House.
Posted by: chris | December 14, 2008, 10:54 am 10:54 am
The longer he waits, the worse it looks. :(
Posted by: ajax | December 14, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
It’s great to see the press finally looking into these allegations that have persisted for years… after the election!
Posted by: anais | December 14, 2008, 10:55 am 10:55 am
Don’t these Republicans ever give up? I find it annoying and very childish to keep pursuing this same oh same oh crap! They need to get a life and get this country back on course. If the FBI could not find anything, which is incriminating, what do the RNC think they can find. Our country has been torn apart by the Republican Administration and it is time for it to stop! They just keep creating a deeper and deeper whole to climb in. Don’t they have any decency or respect for the President Elect Obama? Get a life RNC!
Posted by: SUNMAKER777 | December 14, 2008, 11:01 am 11:01 am
Matt Jaffe and Sunlen Miller
quote The CHANGEling:
” … But what I’m absolutely certain about is that our office had no involvement in any deal-making around my Senate seat. That I’m absolutely certain of.”
The flim-flamming forces of mob-friendly Obama can wriggle for a week or more, one supposes, on that phrase “our office”.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 11:02 am 11:02 am
“It’s great to see the press finally looking into these allegations that have persisted for years… after the election!”
You call that an “election” — where one candidate has the entire corporate media running interference for him, both in the primaries of the formerly-Democratic Party AND in the General Election? Maybe it WASN’T an “election”.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
While the RNC spends money and time on this, the country burns. Can’t we get away from the politics and focus more on what can be done about the current and dismal state of the country???
Posted by: StarwindE | December 14, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
The GOP, RNC, a bunch of sour grapes.
What have they done the last 8 years?
Their aim is to destroy America, and they have come very close to doing that.
Posted by: Thinking | December 14, 2008, 11:06 am 11:06 am
“What have they done the last 8 years?”
Kept your a$$ safe.
Posted by: drjohn | December 14, 2008, 11:13 am 11:13 am
“Their aim is to destroy America, and they have come very close to doing that.”
Uh, no, that would be Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, Maxine Waters, Greg Meeks, Lacy Clay, Jim Johnson, Franklin Raines, and Penny Pritzker.
Name ONE Democrat who asked for reform of GSE’s between 1999 and 2007.
If you can’t, you’ll see just how assinine your assertion is.
Posted by: drjohn | December 14, 2008, 11:16 am 11:16 am
“While the RNC spends money and time on this, the country burns.”
Who’s spending money on this again? Hey- it’s not like spending money on finding out if Trig is Sarah’s baby, is it? THAT was worthwhile, right?
Who wrecked the country?
Democrats, not Republicans.
Obama spent a billion dollars getting elected. That money could have fed a lot of people. How many could be fed for the inaugural party he’s going to throw?
Posted by: drjohn | December 14, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
It is hillarious to see all the libs demand that we all now just get along and get behind Obama for “the good of the country”. Where was this attitude for the last eight years. Where was this atttitude when Reagan was in office? Where was this attitude when George Bush Sr. was in office?
This is the way you have taught politicians to play the game. Tear down the opponent until they are destroyed so your party can win the next election. It is libs that started this destructive path and they should not be surprised that Republicans now use the same tactics. The press only makes it worse by openly taking sides with the Democrats.
It will take a sustained effort on the part of the libs, the press, and their supporters before they can undue the poisoning of the political system that they have fostered. Until there is contrition and change on the part of the liberal establishment then the Republicans would be foolish to not emulate their success.
Posted by: James | December 14, 2008, 11:19 am 11:19 am
I am no fan of either party, but it seems to me that Obama talking with the governor should come as no surprise since they represent the same state. Seems like the governor and the senators of states should have phone conversations.
Posted by: Huh | December 14, 2008, 11:28 am 11:28 am
After the discrace of the last 8 years and the pathetic campaign the repubs ran, they really need to sit down and shut up.
Nobody takes you clowns seriously.
Posted by: Joe6Pack | December 14, 2008, 11:30 am 11:30 am
Thinking, no it is Democrats that have pushed America to the bring of destruction. Democrats supported the Community Reinvestment Act that is directly responsible for the current crisis. They rejected needed reforms during congressional hearings in both 2002 and again in 2005, while Republicans pushed for those needed reforms.
But it goes beyond that. Democrats are responsible for the ever growing federal government. They enacted social programs as a way to buy votes from people who think they will get their goodies from the government without any expense on their part. These mandates, starting in the 1930′s continue to saddle every incoming president with an unsustainable system. This pyramid scheme is ultimately doomed to fail. As Alexander Tyler predicted, once the people of a democracy realize that they can simply vote themselves benefits from the government, that government is will fail. We are at this point because the Democrats have openly played on handing out government goodies as a way to empower themselves. I fear for my country because I know how hard it will be to reverse this trend before the damage is permanent.
Posted by: James | December 14, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
drjohn – You are obviously a republican fan. I blame both dems and reps. Dems tax and spend, reps borrow and spend. They have both used the fed to inflate a 35 year bubble, and now the pain truly starts. Reps have not kept us safe. We have lost 4000 guys and gals over in Iraq. That doesn’t sound too safe plus everyone hates us now. When you put sanctions on Iraq in the 90s and kill 500,000, and then invade the same country and foster an environment where another 500,000 are killed, genocide could be claimed. Surely Mugabe hasn’t put up such good numbers yet? Quit being enamored with the republicans unless you are talking about those like Ron Paul.
Posted by: Huh | December 14, 2008, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Why can’t the Republican party quit trying to drag everyone down? They are supposed to be a part of the leadership of this country. Instead they are acting in a subversive manner, trying to inflame everyone with their rhetoric.
The headline written for this piece doesn’t help matters any; it implies that PEBO himself had contact when in fact the article doesn’t mention that any proof exists that he did.
The National Enquirer has a slot open for “reporters” who deal in innuendo rather than fact.
The election is over; there is work to do and the RNC isn’t helping at all.
Posted by: Majus | December 14, 2008, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Republicans love soap operas. That’s what they are doing with this. They are bitter because Barack Obama won and he won because lots of republicans voted for him.
Too bad so sad! :^)
Posted by: Anna | December 14, 2008, 11:35 am 11:35 am
Don’t worry libs…….Just keep telling us that it is just about the money and no big deal. Say it often and keep repeating the same logic. Your friends in the mainstream media will play it for you over and over……after all your last democrit president disgraced the office but it was just about the “sex” right????
Do you want to see the difference between class and “no class”…..wait to see if all the “O’s” are left on the White House keyboards when Obama takes office. Some of the Clintonistas still have the “W” keys as souvenirs.
Posted by: centurion666 | December 14, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
James – You are right about CRA. It has been a spending disaster that has been a big reason for the foreclosure nightmare. I believe Ron Paul talked about this in the debates, but was belittled by fellow republicans and the moderators. Glad you see it though.
Posted by: Huh | December 14, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
hum ‘Hope” and “changing is Not coming .. what a fraud!!!
Posted by: me | December 14, 2008, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Hey! I remember many of you Republicans promise to leave the USA if Obama won.
I hope you keep your promise!
Posted by: Anna | December 14, 2008, 11:43 am 11:43 am
Very Good points James…. I agree 100%
Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Why did Obama lie about the contacts his staff had with the governor? Surely he knew what his chief of staff was doing. It just takes an icredible amount of stupidity or arrogance to make a claim that he had to know was going to be easily disproved. Maybe he thought he was still in campaign mode and the press was going to cover for him. I really don’t know. It just seems so amateurish and points out the need for Obama to pick up his game. I really thought he was smarter than that.
Posted by: Lynn | December 14, 2008, 11:45 am 11:45 am
“[Republicans] are bitter because Barack Obama won and he won because lots of republicans voted for him.”
Hahaha: Republicans voted for The CHANGEling because he IS a Republican –the token “Republican” ticket, an elderly lunatic and an evangelical populist, was a bad joke.
Republicans, one suspects, are pleased as punch with the “Obama” organization — for turning off many first-time voters forEVER.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Majus asks: “Why can’t the Republican party quit trying to drag everyone down?”
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Where were you for the last eight years?? Cheering for that Choirboy Howard Dean at the DNC?? He was a real team player for the “work of the country.”
Posted by: centurion666 | December 14, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Anna – I don’t know if any are leaving the country, but I haved talked to a few that are buying guns. One of my office mates just bought some sort of an assault rifle.
Posted by: Huh | December 14, 2008, 11:46 am 11:46 am
Republicans are at it again huh looks like their Pathetic party really wants to stay dead havent you learned your lesson Republicans?
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 11:48 am 11:48 am
“Cheering for that Choirboy Howard Dean at the DNC?? He was a real team player for the ‘work of the country’.”
Except for the treacherous work of the right wing of the formerly-Democratic Party — John Kerry and the other crooks who installed the “Obama” organization — people’s choice Howard Dean, not George Bush, would have BEEN president.
The Democratic Wing may well be wondering whether Dean will have something to do with the “Obama” organization’s downfall, inasmuch as he engineered their “election”, and knows where the bodies — quite a few of them Democrats FROM the Democratic Wing — are buried.
Think about it, kids: stretch those brains.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 11:56 am 11:56 am
ANGIE
last I checked 56 MILLION voted republican with the MSM in the tank for obama so your argument is FALSE and a big fact Lie
Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
Noel
How is a big fat lie The republicans are dead gone bye bye see ya no one cares what they think! Its about Obama and the Dems the Pathetic GOP Has got some remolding to do thats gonna take quite some time!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Obama is doing the same thing as president-elect that he did as presidential candidate. He’s ignoring your requests for truth and hoping you’ll go away, or even better, get shouted down by people who believe in him as a quasi-religious figure. It’s as dangerous as it is amusing in a ridiculous sort of way.
However, the media has realized that being in the tank for Obama has a huge downside now…DUH. {I wonder about IQ levels in the news media, nevertheless….} I see they are printing a few tentative retraction type articles..ie “Voters may have been hoodwinked”, and “Will they examine contributions to the Obama campaign in spring”, heh. Ya think?
I don’t expect this period of Obama-adulation to last. When Bush is gone, who will the press ridicule??? They have to have someone to ridicule or they will have to get laid off, after all. IT’s what they do.
Anyway, Obama’s talking about setting himself up as a mini-king in the mold of FDR, complete with pine-tree planting and road-building, a man who cannot be questioned about his excesses in the mold of a middle eastern dictator. But the world has changed and this isn’t Kenya or Afghanistan. So it ainta gonna work. My guess is he’s going to be hammered pretty soon. The press will finally find it hard to resist–they need to sell papers and airtime after all.
One way or another, and it isn’t going to take long, Obama is going to be revealed as the inexperienced 2-bit Chicago criminal that he is. He’s a little boy who got everything he ever had from a) his white grandma whose life he set out to repudiate in hate, and b) the quota system because he looks and sounds black and he worked the system.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
republicans get coal, clean coal mind you this christomas in their stockings. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Posted by: mestizO | December 14, 2008, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
ANGIE
Wow…. what do you mean…are you even reading what people say 56 MILLION PEOPLE VOTED FOR MCCAIN!!!!!!! can I make it any clearer…. 56 MILLION PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING AWAY!!!! sheeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeee.
Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Kevin,
Beware, as soon as Obama doesn’t fix the economic crisis worldwide by about April, Obama will be personna non grata. He’s not the Messiah. That’s soon going to be painfully obvious even to those people who are on their knees in adulation.
BTW, did you hear the news? Rahm Emanuel, Barkey’s best friend and right hand man, DID talk quite a bit to Blago about the senate seat. And on FBI tape too. And Rahmy-poo won’t talk. He looks like a deer in the headlights.
Wonder how long “a couple of days” is exactly. Precisely.
I also wonder how Obama can guarantee IN PUBLIC that his people didn’t talk to Blago about a deal…and then set about having an “investigation” about whether that indeed was done anyway. Sounds sort of butt-backwards to me. Ya think?
So who’s running this “investigation?” And who’s to guarantee it is an investigation and not a butt-covering convention? What are the standards for this “investigation?” I think there are some ethics problems here. I think it needs a federal judge.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
midwestlady…… very good points!!!!!
Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
WORST PRESIDENT ELECT EVER!
MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT-ELECT EVER!
WHY DID OBAMA LIE? WHAT DID OBAMA KNOW? WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?
WORST PERSON IN THE WORRRLLLDD!
Choke on that one Olbermann, you creep and hypocrite.
Obama and this whole Democrat gang are the most corrupt ever to attempt to fraud their way into the WH.
Obama won’t produce his long form birth certificate BECAUSE HE CAN’T.
Now instead of Illinois corruption contained to Illinois, the Democrat Culture of Corruption is taking their rank stinking corruption nationwide.
MERRY FITZMAS CHUMPS! The tentacles of the Democrat Culture of Corruption run long and deep and straight through the Obama inner circle. People are getting squeezed and singing left and right.
To quote the Democrats of the last eight years “Nobody is above the law” – you either believe it and stand by it 100%, or you don’t. If you don’t believe it and stand by it then shut your yap about Bush and the Republicans.
To quote the Democrats of the last eight years “Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism” – - you either believe it and stand by it 100%, or you don’t. If you don’t believe it and stand by it then shut your yap about Bush and the Republicans.
Posted by: Zero's Resignation Watch | December 14, 2008, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Republicans torched our economy. Now we need to put massive amounts of water on this fire before the world burns down.
Think about this: The number reason that potential buyers are staying away from GM showrooms is the fear that the company is going become bankrupt.
This is exactly the psychology behind an old fashioned bank run, but applied to our industrial base.
And don’t let Republicans get away with the story about how Ford and GM deserve to go because of their mistakes. Exactly who was complicit in Detroit’s resistance to higher MPG standards? The Republicans (and Democrat John Dingal, oh well).
Not building a reputation for small, efficient, cool cars like the Prius was clearly Detroit’s main mistake.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
To quote the Democrats of the last eight years “Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism”
that is a correct and factual statement nobody can say it’s not correct??? so all the people who voted for Obama, here is a simple question…….. Please explain why this statement made buy Hillary and the like be off base NOW? very simple a question….Anna ?? Angie?????
Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
Ford and GM deserve to go because they can’t compete. We have plenty of other car factories in this country that employ American workers and their products compete.
If we give them a bailout, they’ll be back for another one in 6 months because they’ll pour the money down the same old ratholes they poured all their own money down.
Those blue-collar workers get paid more than teachers, nurses, scientists and a whole lot of other professional people. And meantime, they’re throwing pop cans in the door panels and building cars taht don’t run. I won’t own a GM or Ford product. They cost a fortune to maintain because they’re crap.
If people are so hot to trot about having a successful car company headquartered in the US, then why don’t they fund a new one with no unions and better engineering and technology and make something a consumer might want to buy???
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Noel
Are you forgetting all the red states that turned blue Obama and the Dems even stole traditional Red states pluzzze maybe the south might still be for Republicans but thats about it
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
midwestlady,
Funny how there isn’t anything in the taped conversations between Emanual and Blagovich that in any way reflects badly on either Emanual or Obama.
Because these two are a better grade of public officials. Better than any Republican.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
about obama’s birth certicate, he produced it, ofifficials in hawaii confirmed it, and a hawaii newspaper ad the was released when obama was also provided the paper even mention.
some republicans are just jealous of obama. well what have the repubs done lately?
they killed the auto bill, because the lowest paid employees didn’t agree to a pay-cut, while the executives are some of the highest paid in the world, their bonuses and executive perks will be preserved, so they can have enough to sponsor republican candidates during elections. talk about getting shafted by conservatives…….
Posted by: dave in n.y. | December 14, 2008, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Angie
that still does not negate the 56 MILLION people who voted republican….the argument you made was the party is dead…. 56 MILLION is not dead….whats comming up with the trillion dollar package is like taking a home equity loan out on your house to pay the mortgage on that same house. just like midwestlady stated in about a year or two when the margin call comes Obamas bubble WILL BURST!
Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
PE Obama: “What I want to do is to gather all the facts about any staff contacts that I might — may have — that may have taken place between the transition office and the governor’s office. And we’ll have those in the next few days, and we’ll present them…”
Seems pretty reasonable to me. If he’s not dirty, then it stands to reason they may have to run any statements by the Justice Department or whomever to ensure he doesn’t harm the investigation.
Some of you guys need to relax for a bit.
Posted by: 12_angry_men | December 14, 2008, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Well it looks like the big 56 millon people their voices are dead, Obama has a high approval rating and He won Period! And the only bubble thats gonna burst and when more Republicans get voted out and it takes years for them to recover WATCH!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
“Funny how there isn’t anything in the taped conversations between Emanual and Blagovich that in any way reflects badly on either Emanual or Obama.”
All we at the small end of the media funnel know is what’s been said at press conferences. Maybe Fitzgerald and friends are just, you know, giving the “Obama” organization enough rope …
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
midwestlady,
If GM and Ford deserve to die because they can’t compete, then I guess the same should apply to the bankrupt Republican party.
In: GOP theory of the economy
Out: World wide depression (twice!)
In: GOP theory of Middle East peace
Out: 3000 Americans dead and an Iran friendly Islam-fascist state in Iraq
In: GOP theory of democracy
Out: U.S. Supreme court appoints George Bush president in defiance to Florida election law and the U.S. constitution
IF YOU WANT YOUR WAGES TO BE “COMPETATIVE” WITH CHINA AND INDIA, VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
No need to hold his breath. There’s absolutely no suspense now. Barkey has built expectations up until Moses himself couldn’t fulfill them in the timeframe expected.
Barkey is going to tank. It’s only a matter of time. Honestly, I suggest that instead of holding breaths, that we make popcorn. This is going to be a GREAT SHOW.
We’re going to see:
a) the news media finangle their way, none to gracefully I might add, into a complete turnaround, or they won’t sell any airtime,
b) the convulsions of Chicago politics as all of Obammy’s political debts come due, all the while that they don’t realize that they’re not national-class and can’t be seen in public. They’re slime.
c) the Dems trot out their best FDR nonsense and see it fall flat on its butt, because it didn’t even work for FDR. WWII got us out of the depression.
People don’t often know that there were 2 dips to the depression–one in 1933 and one in 1938.
d) people come around to reality after the adulation phase. Yes, Obama does use toilet paper. Yes, Obama is a man. Yes, honey, Obama makes mistakes–pretty much constantly.
Time to wake up. The alarm clock just went off. It’s December and the fantasy of a presidential election is over. It’s reality time.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Republicans Killed the auto bill,Why because the Patheitc GOP Only care about Wall street and the Fat cats,They could care less About the American people and their Jobs the only thing they do is look for ways to sell us out out source our Jobs to other Countries,If the Big 3 Go out Republicans will pay dearly!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Just wait. The ball is in your court now. We’re waiting to see what you’re going to do. I hope you are successful. We’ll see.
Make popcorn. Get a good chair. This is going to be a hoot.
Gosh, I hope there are no cigars involved though. That was just crude.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Really, has the GOP not learned from this past election, negative attacks from them will not work. Ever since Bush won the election through such attacks, and 70% of the country felt they were hoodwicked into putting him in office, the republicans have been labeled as have a reputation of resorting to negative attacks and the american people are not gonna let them get away with it.
When the republicans try to use anykind of negative attack, the reaction is “oh here we go again” and then the majority of america rolls it’s eyes and shuts its ears cause they believe it’s gonna be a bunch of lies, distortions of truth, and exaggerations of facts that don’t even matter.
This was all reflected in McCain’s election where resorting to negative attacks did not help him and only serve to turn people away… unlike the democrats the republicans can’t get away with negative attacks anymore
What they should be doing is playing the high ground and restoring their reputation; stay to positive… Instead of talking about how bad the democrats are, talk about all the good that the republicans are doing… cause really, thanks to Bush and Rove, the neagtive attack card has been over played and will no longer work… only after their reputations are restored will they be able to get away with negative attacks
much like the dems… because of how bad the republicans were with negative attacks in the past, the dems gained a reputation of being on the higher ground during general elections… the result? Dems were able to get a pass on negative attacks, while the republicans get attack for any and all negative attacks
midwestlady,
the media has never been in the “tank” for Obama. The only tank they have ever been in and will always be in is anything what people will want to read and hear about. They are a fickle bunch.
good news is boring news, and seeing as McCain is out of the picture along with Palin (who made being attacked by the media all to easy) its time to move on to the only target left on the national stage and that’s Obama.
Posted by: Monte | December 14, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Well it looks like the big 56 millon people their voices are dead, Obama has a high approval rating and He won Period! And the only bubble thats gonna burst and when more Republicans get voted out and it takes years for them to recover WATCH!
GIVE IT TIME HES NOT EVEN IN OFFICE…. HEY WHY DID’NT ANY OF YOU DEMS ANSWER THE DISSENT QUESTION???? humm…MAYBE BECAUSE YOU CAN’T REASONABLY ANSWER IT????
Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Angie,
You mean like when Clinton sold US military secrets to china just before he left office??
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Actually, that’s one of the interesting metrics I’m watching. Barkey’s approval rating is already dropping and he’s not even in office yet.
IT’s going to be a hoot. I’m lovin’ this.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
Only a hack with two brain cells would believe they are not connected.
Lots of hacks here I see….
Oh before I go… DEATH TO THE UNION!!
Posted by: proud non-union worker | December 14, 2008, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
“Time to wake up. The alarm clock just went off. It’s December and the fantasy of a presidential election is over. It’s reality time.”
Let’s hope reality has struck in time to prevent the “Obama” organization from appointing Blue Dog Mike Thompson, Pelosi’s booze-biz underling, to anything.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm
I just cannot believe that Barak Obama is in such a scandal. He is up to his neck in corruption. He has lied so many times to the american people. He has a fake birth certificate, which disqualifies him for the Presidency. He has not told the american people where all of this “money” came from. We cannot have a President that won’t tell us the truth. We only know a little bit, if we only knew the real truth about Obama. He should go ahead and resign as “President Elect”. We need a man of character and integrity, and most of all honesty. He does not deserve to hold this office. He is so good at convicing people that he is on the up and up, when he is actually on the take. I will be glad when he resigns. I would hate to lay down at night knowing that he is really in charge of our country. He scares me to death just the way he talks, he lies too much. He needs to come clean and admit what he has done and let someone that is qualifed to take the office of the President.
Posted by: russell | December 14, 2008, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Republicans on Board I say deal with it how does it feel now you know how most felt with your Pathetic corrupt Bush for 8 years
Illegal war
spying on us
torture
big oil
economy gone to h–
We have had to endure his Nightmare for 8 years surley you can deal with President Obama
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
This is more than a Senate seat, there is a congressional seat involved that the media does not want you to talk about…thats the reason Rahm is in hiding and refusing all media questions, they already have an emmisary of jesse jackson jr making cash offer, that’s the reason he came out and said “no one speaks for me”!! With rahm emmanual involved up to his eyeballs, this is why Obama has now changed his story from “we were not aware” to “I was not aware”.. Axelrod has spilled the beans on Obama and is now trying to recant by saying he “mispoke” which in political terms means “I am guilty of what i said”.. The MSN is in massive damage control for team obama, and Team Obama is censoring any questions on his website concerning the Gov…This is big and getting bigger, adn when the MSN will NOT do their jobs, MATT DRUDGE will, HE was the one that brought Clinton down while ABC, CBS, And NBC looked the other way..THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT
Posted by: obusha 09 | December 14, 2008, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Angie,
You forget. There are huge numbers of people out here who aren’t Dems and also aren’t Repubs. Most of us, in fact, are Independents. We just want to see the work done no matter what kind of party hack we have to elect.
R-E-A-L-I-T-Y. Americans are pragmatists. So climb down off of your little soapbox and let the election be over. IT’s DECEMBER now.
Watch and see if Obama fulfills all his promises. =) The entire rest of the country (except for a few Obama-religion folks like you) are watching to see if their wants are accomplished. You know–jobs and things like that?
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Nothing could be more scairer then the Lame Bush we have had for 8 years we survied him Barley Embrace the good change kids Embrace it give Obama a chance!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Bring change to Illinois. Fire
the attorney general and dismiss
the legislature.
The RNC video and the Feds’
charges against Blago are both
worthless trash.
Posted by: anon | December 14, 2008, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
That’s not true. Obama has an investigation into campaign finance pending in the spring. If you knew what you were talking about JMC, you’d know that. Barkey violated federal law on campaign contributions.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Anyone here remember how Bush corrupted the Justice department by firing US attorney generals for refusing to push questionable prosecutions?
Remember the review standard?
“Loyal Bushie”
Remember that Patrick Fitzpatrick was under consideration for termination BECAUSE HE WASN’T LOYAL ENOUGH TO THE RNC?
Corrupt == Republican
Republican == Corrupt
“I can’t recall” == Alberto Gonzales
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Dems ruined the Economy hahah dont Make me laugh it Hardily took 2 years to create this much Damage are you forgetting the Republicans ruled for 6 years keep telling yourself the Republican BS funny too funny thats why the GOP Went down in Flames they got their —- Kiced on Nov 4
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
GOP- Greedy outsource our Jobs Party!!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm
Angie,
How uncharacteristically sentient of you to notice! Yes, Barkey’s not even in office yet and already he’s in trouble.
This is just the beginning of the crap you’re going to see in the next four years. I can only hope that most of it will be comedic and not truly dangerous. But I can’t guarantee it.
Meantime, I’m lovin’ it. Barkey is a 2-bit hack from Illinois and this is the graphic proof for all of you dummies who didn’t do your homework and drank the Kool-Aid instead. Kool-Aid’s gone. It’s december. Now you’re stuck with this loser. Four years will pass soon–learn something from it, will you????
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
And there will always be people whose soul is so corrupt they have to call themselves Republican.
The purpose of the Iraq war was to show that George W was greater than his father, with whom he has issues.
The effect was the death of 3000 brave Americans and the establishment of an Iran friendly Islamo-state.
NOW THAT’S CORRUPT!
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
I figured it out. The Republicans don’t care about the Blago sham. Their real goal is to paint the SEIU in a negative light. The Republicans hate employed Americans that have protection against slavery by way of unions. Everybody knows it.
Posted by: Lights On | December 14, 2008, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Ah, Angie’s a union representative. Well, no wonder.
The DEMS have paid you to vote for them for years. You are a slave, bought and paid for, pure and simple.
So, why should I believe anything you say? Teh DEms pay you to say it.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Come on, Dems. Ante up. Fulfill your promises. Let’s see you work the miracles you promised.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
What will Sarah Palin do?
Democratic Congress and no Ted Stevens equals no PORK FOR HER.
Republican, socialist and proud, Alaska is the NUMBER 1 recipient of federal pork, including the “bridge to nowhere” that the lady supported when she ran for Governor and the “road to nowhere” on to the bridge to nowhere which was *actually built* while she was Governor.
A Republican without corruption is like an ocean without water.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm
Midwest Lady
I am no union represenitive,I dont even have a union Job I just cant stand the lying greedy corrupt Republicans
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
THE ELECTION IS OVER, JMC. Get over it. Let’s see the Dems do what they promised. Come on. You’re behind.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Another day of Republican hatred…
ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN LIES AND MANIPULATION.
THE PEOPLE HAS VOTED THEM OUT.
THEY WISH TO HAVE AN OBAMA.
Posted by: Andy | December 14, 2008, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
Andy, the election is over. Come down off the mountain and do the work, honey. We’re waiting to see you do all the things you promised. And you’re already behind schedule.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
“Fulfill your promises. Let’s see you work the miracles you promised.”
Midwestlady,
If you promise the Republicans don’t use the fillibuster to STOP STRAIGHT UP OR DOWN VOTES, I promise you an economy as strong as during the 90′s and ego-motivated wars like Iraq.
Deal?
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Correction:
Midwestlady,
If you promise the Republicans don’t use the fillibuster to STOP STRAIGHT UP OR DOWN VOTES, I promise you an economy as strong as during the 90′s and NO ego-motivated wars like Iraq.
Deal?
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
You have no worries, JMC. The field is clear. You have no excuse. You promised a bunch of stuff and you have all the chance in the world to perform it all, according to your holy and perfect leader.
So, let’s see some results. Come on. We’re WAITING.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
McCain said it right that corruption happens in both the Republican and Democratic Parties!!!!
Posted by: sisterdearest09 | December 14, 2008, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
Get over the election. It’s DECEMBER. Let’s see you Democrats perform. Come on, you’re late and we’re waiting.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
lights on is bringing race into the argument now….. they “the progressives” must be losing the argument…..PULLIN OUT THE RACE CARD!!!!
the video for this topic has nothing but factual quotes from the person who said it and clips of people contradicting themselfs. nothing made up there. SO WHATSUP????
Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Come on, do all the stuff you promised. Stop yapping and get out there. Make the world perfect. We’re waiting.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
midwestlady,
if you can get your boy bush to go ahead and leave maybe the country will have a head start at healing from the mess bush caused.
we all know, he has done as much damage as he can, and bush is ready to go also.
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
The next big thing is a
complete end to oil imports.
The centerpiece of the new
religion will be renewable
energy sources and a diminishing
future for fossil fuels and
nuclear power plants.
Posted by: anon | December 14, 2008, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
“The purpose of the Iraq war was to show that George W was greater than his father, with whom he has issues.”
NObody in politics has more “father” issues than mob-friendly placeholder Obama, who’s slacked off some — since the so-called “election” — on fairy tales about his no-account progenitor.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Come on, Dems. The ball’s in your court. Fix the troubles of the country, and do it in 4 years. You promised.
PS you all don’t have time to be flapping your jaws in a comment line. YOu have work to do.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
midwestlady,
“Heck of a job, Brownie!”
Yup, Michael Brown was competent, by GOP standards.
A war in Iraq, why? To sooth the ego of a GOP president.
A great depression, why? Herbert Hoover believed in the GOP theory of the economy and stuck with it.
When it comes to competency, Republicans shouldn’t throw stones. They live in a soap bubble house.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Does anyone read more than one news source? The FBI said in a statement that one of the phone calls the Gov. of Ill. made he was stated as saying, “Obama gets my appreciation? ###****&&& him.”
It would appear to me that whoever the Gov. had been talking with from the Obama team must have told him to ‘pack sand’ regarding any sale of the Senate seat in question.
The rest remains to be seen….let the FBI do their job and quit being so impatient (or in a hurry) to get answers.
Posted by: Cheryl Anderson | December 14, 2008, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
You Republicans crack me up how can the Dems do anything when The Republicans BLOCK Every vote, or Bush brings out His big Veto Pen cant you republicans ever think for once if the Republicans cant get anything out of it they aint doing it!! again
GOP=GREEDY OUTSOURCE OUR JOBS PARTY!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Yup, Cheryl,
The interesting thing is this: How did he know that they weren’t going to give him anything? What conversations took place between last year and now? Was there negotiation? Why did Blago think he was getting stiffed????
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
george bush has not shown he is greater than anyone!
george bushes father must hang his head in shame, at the thought of what his some has done to this country.
just like the rest of us should do.
if you want to compare father son problems.
looks to me george bush as messed up everything he has put his hands on.
and his father has always dug him out.
obama has done good with his life is spite of his father.
i will take obama with his father issues any day over
george w bush and his father issues.
when george tries to out do his father.
other people get hurt.
it will be interesting to see what bush will move on the mess up next.
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
Angie,
Wake up. It’s december. You no longer have an excuse. The Dems promised to save the world economically and a whole lot of other stuff. GEt with it. You ahve work to do. We’re WAITING.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
The Democrats volunteered to be the saviors of the world, and guess what, the voters took them up on the offer. NOW PERFORM.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm
embecile! poor little lights on starting to call everyone names and next he will be taking his marbles and going home
Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Angie, whatever.
You still believe that Barkey’s going to get all that stuff done, don’t you?
I am so amused. I’m going to make popcorn and watch.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
This is going to be the biggest hoot since Clinton said “depends on what is is.” I’m laughing already.
What a joke.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
midwestlady,
“The interesting thing is this: How did he know that they weren’t going to give him anything?”
Anybody that knows me could speculate on what I might do or not do because they know the content of my character, reputation and know my actions in the past. I’m sure there are certain things about you that your co-workers would assume about you, too.
Posted by: Lights On | December 14, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
lights on yea….sure mention slavery to anybody today and the first thing that comes to their minds will be the spanish who inslaved the irish 1600 years ago…duh
Posted by: Noel | December 14, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
midwestlady,
at least someone is trying to do the right thing.
bush the decided, decided to be the
ruiner of the world.
so let the dems try to save it.
bush promised you nothing, and has just about taken what little we did have.
after bush and the gop
i can understand why you would call the dems
saviors.
at least someone is saving us from more of the same bush/mccain.
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Whatever, angie.
You won’t get anything done then either, because the Dems are the party of whiners and looters.
I’m just waiting to see the entertainment I’m sure is coming.
I’m enjoying the news media starting to turn on you already. Money runs them, not religion, you know.
Get up off your knees and put away your O-rosary. You have the office of president and you have the guy you wanted. He promised to save the world economically and he promised more than any president in memory as a candidate. Sooooo. Perform. You have no excuse.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Republicans have burned down the economy.
Voting for a Republican is an act of treason.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
Ohhh,
Obama’s doing the right thing by refusing to talk about his corruption with Blago???
Rahm Emanuel looks like a deer in the headlights because he’s doing the right thing??
Obama’s up for investigation over campaign contributions come spring because he did the right thing?
Shall I go on??????
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
It’s politics, you poor naive soul.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
“We have sort of become a nation of whiners. You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline.”
– Key McCain advisor Phil Gramm
“You won’t get anything done then either, because the Dems are the party of whiners and looters.”
– Uninformed Republican Midwestlady
Same person???
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
midwestlady,
what we really need is someone to talk about the mess bush has us in and to start telling us how we will get out of it.
if you haven’t noticed, while you are ranting about obama stopping doing the country’ business, you with the rest of us are wading knee deep is the quicksand crap bush has got us in.
so yes, you can go on, but you are sinking while doing it.
hold your head up, get out of the gop trap, and save yourself, like the rest of us are trying to do.
bush has us in deep dodo
obama is the only one offering a life line stick to get us out.
grap hold midwestlady
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
I mean if Obama is so ominscient and powerful, why couldn’t he have stopped this scandal over Blago???
Is he not paying attention with his amazing x-ray powers or waht?
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
MIDWESTLADY
Iam waiting for Jan,20,2009,When Bush is Finally gone big Party at my house farwell to the worst President yet in History yaheee Its Party time!!!!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
For those hung up on certain
issues: If you are an adult
you are your own man. Your
father or your ancestry are
of little relevance.
Posted by: anon | December 14, 2008, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Angie,
Have you party. But then you’d better fulfill all those promises. We’re WAITING. We expect perfection and we expect it fast.
And your savior isn’t performing so far. CAn you do something about that???? Oh almighty ones.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
George Bush performs some last minute looting:
Los Angeles Times
Reporting from Washington — The White House is working to enact an array of federal regulations, many of which would weaken rules aimed at protecting consumers and the environment, before President Bush leaves office in January.
The new rules would be among the most controversial deregulatory steps of the Bush era and could be difficult for his successor to undo. Some would ease or lift existing constraints on private industry, including power plants, mines and farms.
Those and other regulations would help clear obstacles to some commercial ocean-fishing activities, ease controls on pollutants that contribute to global warming, relax drinking-water standards and lift a key restriction on mountaintop coal mining.
Once such rules take effect, they typically can be undone only through a laborious new regulatory proceeding, including lengthy periods of public comment, drafting and mandated reanalysis.
“They want these rules to continue to have an impact long after they leave office,” said Matthew Madia, a regulatory expert at OMB Watch”
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Midwest said why counldnt obama stop the Govenor thing?
Perhaps he has bigger fish to fry like Putting together an Administration,Putting together his Policies,Getting ready to move his Family to DC, I hardily think he has time to mess around with a corrupt Govenor!And Maybe hes behind The Gov getting caught!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
anon,
Tell that to Jesse Jackson JR.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Angie,
You don’t know Chicago politics. Barkey knew and cut deals with Blago before he ever spoke at that Dem convention that thrust him into the spotlight. He’s tainted way back.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
midwestlady,
All we ask is that the bankrupt Republican party to get out of the way.
If the GOP fillibusters legislation, they own the status quo. And we will remember the party of obstruction in 2 years.
Best case: No GOP in the Congress
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
Obama was put in that senate seat and fed bills to approve. Don’t you know that???
He’s a token guy and a functional piece in the Chicago machine. Come on.
Wow, the ignorance out there about Chicago politics is amazing. Don’t you know about Chicago???
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
midwestlady,
did you get what you wanted from bush?
fast?
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
midwestlady,
it took bush eight years to bush us,
now you want obama to clean it all up overnight.
and if the gop gets into office and tries any of that mess they have always tried. in two years, yes, they will all be gone.
oh happy day.
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
Bush gave MIDWEST What she wanted real fast
Illegal lying war 2 of them
torture
Illegal Spying on american people
Economy gone to hell
Unemployment rate the highest ever
Housing mess Higest ever
You must be real proud of your President W
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
The funniest part of this election cycle was the pseudo-religious adoration of a political figure. Amazing.
Everyone knows that political figures are trash, the whole lot of them. And yet, people faint and drop to their knees over this guy. Amazing.
This is as funny as the cargo cult after WWII. Do you know about them???
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Midwestlady,
We should throw members of the Republican administration who committed war crimes into prison, right?
You want us to clean up the country, right?
How about an investigation into the Republican administration’s involvement in credit default swaps and mortgage backed securities? I smell blood.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
Matt Jaffe and Sunlen Miller write:
“In a not-so-subtle dig at the President-elect, the Republicans’ website rips off Obama’s “change” mantra, asking visitors to ‘Join the fight – Bring change to Illinois’.”
If the political punditburo hadn’t been so blinded by Barky’s birthday suit, somebody might have asked before now how a supposedly-transformative “Obama” organization emerged from a candidate who got his start by knocking off all the other candidates for “his” Illinois senate seat … the only time Obama ran in a straight election, Bobby Rush beat him two to one.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Angie,
The past is over. Let’s see the Dems pull of the miracles they promised. We’re waiting.
Do something about that little skinny guy stonewalling the press. Is he the messiah you all are exclaiming about? He doesn’t look like a messiah. He looks like a very scared little boy.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
You’re in fantasy-land, JMC. Wall Street has gone Democrat–been that way for 10-15 years, in case you didn’t know.
Keep up.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
A clean Congress == no Republicans.
Remember the K-Street project? The Republican hero figure, Tom Delay instituted Pay to Play for every Republican Senator and member of the House.
Throw all Republicans who participated in the K-Street project in the same cell as Blogovich.
Have to be a cell the size of a gym, though?
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
it’s these kind of stupid videos that sank the GOP. the more they weave conspiracy theories the stupider they look. ayers, wright, blogo. a majority of intelligent american said this kind of approach to issues is a big turn off. i laughed all the way through the video. there is no love between Obama and the governor. people shake hands and smile while hating each other on a daily basis in politics in all states. Obama is university-smart and street- wise. he just needs to shake the haters off. there is no shortage of corruption in republican politics, quite the opposite. so when you make stupid vids like these you could be making the case against your own party. conspire for the next 25 days. on january 20 it will be time to move on—acceptance and closure.
Posted by: Paul Wall | December 14, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Aren’t you aware of the amazing business demographics of the past 15 years or so?? Savings rate negative; % household income absorbed in paying off debt, etc? Perhaps you also weren’t aware of the enormous housing boom and who was funding and managing that???
Keep up.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
“You’re in fantasy-land, JMC. Wall Street has gone Democrat–been that way for 10-15 years, in case you didn’t know.”
Quit your whining. Wall street sees no profit in a destroyed American economy. Only the Republicans see a world depression as a mission.
Mission accomplished, GOP!
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Paul,
We’ll see. YOu obviously don’t live in Chicago.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
JMC,
Wall street wasn’t even thinking about the world economy, except how to extract a buck from it. Those people were all about getting rich. STill are.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
And they just got a gigantic leg up in their aspiration to be filthy rich from you, the American tax-payer.
So much for the Dems being more interested in the poor than the rich. $$$$ on wall street, big party for their friends.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Midwest
Obama doesnt look scared to me scared of what, he came out did a Press conference answered Questions so Nice to see a President not go into Deer in Headlights Mode when asked questions I Probably miss that about Bush that Stone Face he gets when asked real Questions Pathetic!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
GOP plan.
Burn down the economy.
Slander the firemen.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
JMC, Bella’s probably talking about that photo that appeared on the news media of BArkey in a bathing suit—his little skinny ribs hanging out.
People swooned over it, but it was funny. It looked like one of those “98-lb weakling” advertisements in old comic books.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
Gop plan
Destroy the Economy and the American people outsource their Jobs Rule other Countries Fatten our Fat cats Bank accounts and ours at the Expense of the American people AND SCREW THEM!!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Yeah, Angie.
We’ll see what he says when he finally decides to say something. I think he’s waiting to find out how much people notice so he can avoid being called a liar by the news media. =)
Meantime, the scandal rages on.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
“So much for the Dems being more interested in the poor than the rich. $$$$ on wall street, big party for their friends.”
Tell you what, after the Democrats have gotten us out of the Republican depression (both of them), we are going to restore the tax rates to those of the prosperous 90′s.
A clean Congress == No Republicans
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
Gary,
Frauds have a way of being found out sooner or later. It will come out.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Midwest
Hes gathering all the Facts whats wrong with that, Bush should of done that with Iraq but no forced us into a war that cost Billons of Dollars and Nearly Bankrupted this country,I think Obama is doing the right thing by Gathering facts and getting it right thats the Responsible thing to do!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
Sure they are, JMC. When is this going to happen exactly? And how exactly?
I cannot believe the stupidity of some of these Obama people. You’d think they’d never cracked a history book before.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
“Frauds have a way of being found out sooner or later. It will come out.”
Midwestlady to Bushies:
Better leave the country before justice catches up with you.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Angie,
That’s not the interesting part. What’s interesting is what conversations went on leading up to that. How did he know? What negotiations went on near the beginning of this mess, say last November or last year?
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
Hopefully Bush,Cheny,Rove Rumsfeld, AND THE WHOLE BUSH ADMINISTRATION
Will Get the Justice they deserve WAR CRIMINIALS MURDERES!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
The country is more divided than it’s been in years. Interesting how that was an outcome of the love and peace people, isn’t it?
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Party on, Dems. Just remember your job performance review is coming up in about 3 months.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
And who Divided this country
The far right religious nuts thats who but no more the Country spoke loud and clear Nov 4 No more Far right ruling of this country!
Posted by: ANGIE | December 14, 2008, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
That FriendsofBlago site actually is pretty interesting, especially on Mike Quinn (whom the MSM initially declared, when it looked as though he might be naming a Senator), to be somehow an outside the Chicago machine:
“As Illinois State Treasurer, Quinn’s Office Helped Finance An $875,000 Loan To Rezko. “Eight years earlier, during his time as state treasurer, Quinn’s office helped to finance a Rezko housing project through a program in which the state places deposits in certain banks that agree to lend money at low interest rates. Rezko got an $875,000 loan through the program.” (Susan Kuczka, “Running Mates Run With Purpose,” Chicago Tribune, 10/20/06)
“Quinn’s Deputy Treasurer, Jack Lavin, Went On To Become Chief Financial Officer Of Rezko Enterprises And Was Recommended To Blagojevich By Rezko For His Current Post As Director Of The Illinois Department Of Economic Opportunity.” (Susan Kuczka, “Running Mates Run With Purpose,” Chicago Tribune, 10/20/06)
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Hahaha- Obama voted with Blago 100% of the time, therefor he is a supporter. See, the logic works when you flip it around.
No wonder Obama is so anxious to take office early- he is going to need to deploy operation Wag the Dog himself.
I predict at least 1 Obama military adventure in ’09. Maybe Darfur, maybe pirates.
Its going to be hardest on the children- those feeble minded web2.0 20 somethings working away at coffeeshops and Borders feigning hipster detachment. When they wake up to the fact that HopenChange just ment electing the same of Democratic fossils and a slick political opportunist from the Olde Thyme Chicago machine their Twitters will go dark and something will die in their tiny little hearts. Obama has played hardball with them and a free condom cant protect your heart. If they cant believe what they read on a stock tout’s web site whats the world coming to?
Posted by: BertieW | December 14, 2008, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Midwestlady,
What exactly is the difference between the activities of Blogovich in Illinois and that of Tom Delay and every Republican who participated in the K-Street project?
Only that Fitzpatrick wasn’t U.S. attorney general in DC (or Texas).
Every Republican is corrupt. And they destroyed the economy of the United States.
*******
Been fun, but I can’t say any of the Republicans here are worth my time.
Posted by: John McCain's conscience | December 14, 2008, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
Either Blago is nuts for saying what he did while knowing he was being taped or he it was a set up. Do you think perhaps he knew he was going down and took the opportunity to implicate others? It is clear that Rezko is talking and Blago also has lots to say. These guys are looking to get the least amount of time as possible.
“Never tell anyone the real reason you did something unless it is useful to do so”
Posted by: Machiavellianism | December 14, 2008, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
bertie,
it has really been hard on the kids fighting and giving their lives right now, for a war started on a lie.
so thanks to bush, the 20somethings, probally just expect that some other president will get them killed just as bush has had these killed.
bush started this war in iraq, to give is oil family buddies a chance to let osama get away.
oil families that get people killed stick together.
we were all bushed
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
“No wonder Obama is so anxious to take office early- he is going to need to deploy operation Wag the Dog himself.”
Hoping to get to Executive Privilege before the Justice Department works its way over to HIM …
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Bush in USA:
McCain won the military vote. Obama won the vote of 20 something baristias who crash on friends couches and dont make enough to pay taxes.
But this isnt about Bush or McCain. Heavy lies the head that wears the arugula and that’s Obama. Trying to change the topic because the Democrats actions are indefensible is pathetic.
There is a story in the Chicago Tribune that Rahm talk to Harris before November 4th. Then he called back after the election and gave him another ‘acceptable’ name. And he talked to Blago camp again later.
So when Obama said “no contact” initially he meant repeated contact- early and often.
And Emanuel is some who who spoke to Obama every couple of hours. Are we supposed to believe that Obama had no knowledge of the extraordinary (how I wish) proposition from his old Pal Blago? Something is rotten in Denmark.
Suprise! Your buddy Obama is lying to you (not me) again. If this was an advent calendar you could add it behind a door like his going back on his tax cuts, his troop withdrawal plans, his gas tax etc…
He is bringing unparalleled disgrace on the venerable, time honored Office of the president elect.
Posted by: BertieW | December 14, 2008, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Pretty much, yeah.
I’ll bet he’s counting the minutes.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
That’s the new game: Do anything you have to do to get elected. And then hide out and refuse to talk until you take the oath and thereby get executive privilege.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
“And Emanuel is some who who spoke to Obama every couple of hours. Are we supposed to believe that Obama had no knowledge of the extraordinary (how I wish) proposition from his old Pal Blago? Something is rotten in Denmark.”
Something is WAY rotten.
And the post about taking a WIDE view of Emanuel’s real role, and the unlikely reconstituting of the Clinton administration under “Obama”, disappeared in a flash — possibly the word “Israel” … :^\
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
bush the USA:
Bush bad, start war, kids die
BUT
Military service VOLUNTARY.
Obama COS Emanuel wrote “The Plan”
Plan becomes reality
Military OR Civilian Security Force army, no choice
Kids die
Change? Saving the country? How is this better?
Posted by: Laughing Cynic | December 14, 2008, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Yap, yap, yap. Dems, don’t forget your job performance review in about 3 months.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
This is such a stretch by the RNC – and just a generally unseemly politically opportunistic move so soon after the election. Leave it to the GOP to create such early divisiveness. No wonder McCain publicly slammed them in his ABC interview this morning.
Posted by: matt | December 14, 2008, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
You’re right, Machiavellianism.
Blago might as well spill everything he knows now, if only he realizes that. He’s toast politically, and he might as well not spend the rest of his life in the slammer.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Maybe, in Chicago, Blago can cut a deal and avoid the big house main room where he might be in big trouble.
So, there might be some surprises out there yet, when he realizes this. He’s apparently talking to his lawyers these days.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Boy, there’s some aversion to chicago reality in here, huh??? LOL, okay, I’ll be more careful what i post.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
There is no reason or case at this point to impeach PEBHO.
But on the other hand there is no reason for him to come out two days in a row and give nuanced, spun statements about no contact and his staff not knowing anything, when it is becoming obvious that he did.
Where is all this transparency and why hasnt he released what they do know on HopenChange.gov? Maybe they cant track down every last person, but Rahm is right there for God’s sake. Put his statement up on their web site. And other aides as they are made. The Chicago Tribune didnt have much trouble finding out he had been in communication, so why cant Obama be at least that transparent? Is it because they want to massage the timeline so it doesnt give something away?
We can also add non-volunteer volunteerCore behind another door on his Advent Lie Calendar.
Posted by: BertieW | December 14, 2008, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
“Don’t forget Illinois’ State Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias. Another scandel that really needs exploring.”
Right: the mobster bank guy whom even most Illinois Democrats refused to endorse — but Obama helped him become Treasurer in return for $100,000?
Of course this wasn’t “selling” state offices, perish the thought! … perfectly Bambi-innocent, most likely, as usual with The CHANGEling.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
“Is it because they want to massage the timeline so it doesnt give something away?”
Is it because they’re trying to figure out who-all’s talked to Fitzgerald? Maybe Michelle’s jumped ship . . . remember Martha Mitchell.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Ah, early Christmas presents. The RNC and Republicans are a gift that just keeps on giving. First their stupid opposition to the loan program for auto companies (while Germany, Japan, China, India, et. al. bailout their companies) and now this nonsense.
Someone needs to give the Idiot’s guide series of books to the RNC. They really need to do some learnin’ or they’re going to be in the opposition for the next couple of decades.
Posted by: Bud | December 14, 2008, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
“[Republicans] really need to do some learnin’ or they’re going to be in the opposition for the next couple of decades.”
With “Democrats” like Obama and Emanuel (and Geithner and Biden and Clinton and Daschle and Gates/Powell) in one big “post-partisan” flim-flam fest, there’s no real NEED for the Republican Party to tax itself with any further electoral activities.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Hey Bud,
The ball is in your court. Let’s see your holy one do everything he’s promised to do.
The performance review has already begun and Barkey’s failing already. Transparency = zero. And your buddy Rahm is about ready to see the bottom of a bus.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Obama has a history of throwing people off various political buses. We should count them off from here on out.
Emanuel = 1
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
How many “Pay for Play” deals will come out of the $750 Million in campaign funds raised by Obama. The UAW is one that is owed plenty for all the funds they contributed.
Posted by: Machiavellianism | December 14, 2008, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Sho nuff: John McCain, the let’s-pretend opponent in this year’s faked-up “post-partisan” voting event, has seized some airtime to rush to the defense of mob-friendly pretty boy Obama:
“With all due respect to the Republican National Committee, we should try to be working constructively together,” McCain told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.
Posted by: Belle Star | December 14, 2008, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
So basically, we’re being told that:
a) Blago and Rahm talked,
b) Blego wanted things and feels that he is owed,
c) Blago was told no which means Rahm must have known what Blego wanted and he was saying no to,
d) Somehow Rahm, even though he talks to Obama on a nearly hourly basis, didn’t bother to tell Obama what Blego was asking and that it might be a problem if Blego ran his mouth about what he is so sure he is owed,
e) and Obama somehow didn’t know any of this.
OBAMA SAID HE DIDN’T KNOW ANY OF THIS.
I don’t believe it. I flat out don’t believe it.
At the very least, Rahm is completely incompetent and didn’t warn his boss off. But I don’t think that’s what the problem is. I think that we’re being lied to about what Obama knows.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
Bust up the unions!! No bailouts with these bloodsuckers still intact. I would rather see these companies file bankrupt and free themselves of these unions forever.
Posted by: Bye unions! | December 14, 2008, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
Wake up America — The Two Party System is just theatrics!! The global power brokers own two parties (probably for the price of one) and we should all just accept this as a truth. Your representatives have their own interest at heart (Rod is a great example) – we are just taxpayers – our only rights are to pay taxes and spend monopoly money.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | December 14, 2008, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Proud I voted third party.
Posted by: Ken | December 14, 2008, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
“OBAMA SAID HE DIDN’T KNOW ANY OF THIS.
I don’t believe it. I flat out don’t believe it.”
It’s probably safe to say that MOST people no longer believe ANYthing Obama — or those who serve him, or are served by him — says. And why would they?
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
“How many “Pay for Play” deals will come out of the $750 Million in campaign funds raised by Obama.”
As Mao said “Let a hundred flowers bloom!” Never has the good ‘ol tactic of “walking around money ” been so well funded. Obama will keep on a core of shock troops to call radio stations, write blogs, and comment on on line articles. One of the political blogs recently had a piece about how Obama planned to keep his 50 state presence of volunteers but convert them to a paid advocacy organization.
No doubt we are seeing the first fruit on this thread. The latest defense of suspicious goings on is offered by Bud… who has no actual defense! He just thinks that the general public will approve of all this Illinois graft and doesnt like prosecutors slowing down the train.
Obama’s $1 trillion infrastructure plan will be filtered though every crony, and corrupt pol and ward healer (known in Blago articles as “powerful alderman”)in the country who will siphon and backdoor dollars into their own pockets. As much as the Big Dig was in the headlines for its corruption, this will be 100 times worse.
And even when these things do get built, wait until the Federal tax payer finds out that they paying $2.5M for a “much needed” dog park in some Democrat Congress critters backyard.
Nothing but sunshine above Obama’s head in the next year. Oh no.
Posted by: BertieW | December 14, 2008, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Why on earth would anyone suggest that PEBHO resign!? Concerned in Ohio (no basis) repeats this but never gives any information, whatsoever, on why PEBHO should resign? can anyone with any enlighten me, please?
Posted by: Richard | December 14, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
“If the recent sweeping mandate foe President-elect Obama means anything … ”
… it means that with no opposition, the uncritical support of ALL the corporate media, and $750 million dollars, just about ANYbody can be installed as president elect.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
“One of the political blogs recently had a piece about how Obama planned to keep his 50 state presence of volunteers but convert them to a paid advocacy organization … ”
In California, God help us, one of His new identities is to be “CommunityOrganizer”.
Smiley-face fascism in an off-black birthday suit, exclaimed over by a huge cohort of middle-aged white guys on teevee.
Here’s hoping Michelle rats him out to Fitzgerald. For the good of the children.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Except Bertie, no amount of shakedown can prevent the truth from being told.
We are seeing bad days when that kind of idea can even begin to be believable. The US is heading for sad times.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
I’ve often wondered what the wiser members of society must have thought to themselves on the eve of the Communist takeover in Eastern Europe, or at the birth of the 3rd Reich. I hope I never find out, but maybe I will to my sadness.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
A word to the wise, if I do find out what it might have been like, the news media had better be careful.
The saying goes, “They went for the old, and I didn’t care. They went for the infirm and I didn’t care. Then, they came for me. And no one cared.”
The news media is always among the first to be wooed, but then retain that order (first) when time comes to do the politically expedient thing. Read you history books, boys.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
Here is another Pay for Play…
When inside man, Rezko was faced with a hospital board that had too many members to bribe (15). Rezko had a close friend who chaired the Illinois Senate’s Health and Human Services Committee, State Senator Barack Obama. Obama was credited as the moving force behind a piece of bipartisan legislation (Il. Senate Bill 1332) that reduced the hospital board to nine, to be appointed by Governor Blago with advice and consent of the Illinois Senate. Blago immediately appointed three physicians, Rezko cronies with similar Middle Eastern backgrounds, all of whom were coincidentally big contributors to Barack Obama. Rezko controlled the board’s votes. The three appointed physicians have been convicted in the Federal probe and are rumored to be about ready to sing also. Michelle was hired by the University of Chicago, ultimately ending up as the University of Chicago Hospital’s Vice President for External Affairs. Barack was chair of the Illinois Senate’s powerful Health and Human Services Committee. (by the way, William Ayers is a professor at the same Univerity of Illinois). Here is another tidbit. If you Google Obama’s earmarks you will find that millions went to the University.
and the list goes on!
Posted by: Machiavellianism | December 14, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Wow – imagine how whacked out the Clinton-era attacks would have been if the Internet had been more widely used. Now, with cheap access to making videos, etc., this is going to get ugly quickly! I have always said, the GOP slings muck more than anyone, and the media is so thirsty for $$$ if it looks like the public wants to embarrass Obama, expect them to join in. The media is not liberal, just opportunistic.
Posted by: Laughing O. Loud | December 14, 2008, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Some of them did, Belle. It’s a matter of recorded history. In those days, people wrote letters to family members and correspondents and so much of it is recorded and in private hands. Besides it was in the papers and many of those have been kept.
However, not all of the people felt that the 3rd Reich was the best development. This was also recorded in private documents.
Even many Germans questioned it but were silenced. Some were killed outright for dissidence or refusing to serve. Many fled in 1939. The US government helped some scientists and academics out of Germany. Others were brought out by family or risked their lives to escape.
It was a horrible time.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Older people remember learning about this and seeing incontrovertible evidence that this happened. Younger people have not been taught and simply don’t realize that social controls of the sort I’m hearing suggested have only one outcome and it’s very ugly and deadly.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
“Michelle was hired by the University of Chicago, ultimately ending up as the University of Chicago Hospital’s Vice President for External Affairs.”
A nice public-private “non-profit” position for which she was paid nearly a half million dollars a year, once Obama was elected to the Senate.
Now, they want to pay her to be First Lady — when it comes to snarfing up corporate $, this pair of supposed icons of middle class striving really have no shame.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
“Even many Germans questioned it but were silenced. Some were killed outright for dissidence or refusing to serve. Many fled in 1939. The US government helped some scientists and academics out of Germany. Others were brought out by family or risked their lives to escape.”
Yes. The US was big on saving scientists, but not so keen on saving Jews. And after the war, when the CIA took over from the OSS, they brought in every Nazi scientist they could find, including V2 rocket-master von Braun, getting ready for war with the Russians, without whose war-time sacrifices we’d be writing in German here.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Belle, I’m old enough to remember the shock when our troops marched into Buchenwald. The US Government and the American people knew that some things were going on but they didn’t know the depth and magnitude of it. The photographs tell the tale. American soldiers came home with mental illnesses caused just by seeing it.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
“American soldiers came home with mental illnesses caused just by seeing it.”
They’re coming back the same way from “our” assaults on Afghanistan (where Obama wants to escalate the robo-war) and Iraq (about which Obama’s changed the anti-war tune he put on for the “Democratic” primaries).
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
It is true, as you say, that many German citizens were complicit. There is a book called “What did they know?” that consists of interviews taken over a long period of time. Complicity in those crimes was a sort of social madness, a mania, that we don’t fully understand, but such things certainly can and do happen from time to time.
Not all were complicit however and one can’t blame the German people as a whole, certainly. Similar things have happened to other groups before & since.
There are many illicit photographs and records of things that the German authorities didn’t know existed. Many people left a record because they knew it would end. Good people knew that what was happening was a travesty. Some fled; some were trapped. It ended, as these things always do, in a disaster. Germany has suffered much for this.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
Belle, you must be a younger person. Anything they could possibly see in Afghanistan would be nothing like Buchenwald. Google it.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
“The US Government and the American people knew that some things were going on but they didn’t know the depth and magnitude of it.”
The Final Solution to European Jewry was no mystery to, among others, Senator Prescott Bush, who served as a Nazi financier at the same time he was being a US Senator. Senator Bush’s son George (Bush I) became a CIA careerist, and grandson George W. (Bush II) has refocused uber-America’s Yankee-supremacist crusade — with which the “terror”-talking Obama expresses no basic disagreement — against Muslims and Arabs in general.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Is it true that an Iraqi news reporter threw his shoes at George W. Bush today?
Posted by: Bloggy | December 14, 2008, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
belle and midwest,
it is easy to see why you would not believe in obama or any other politician after the bushing george bush has given us.
after this eight years it will probally take another two presidential elections for the poor rebs who voted for bush to maybe trust again.
george bush really did a job on all of us.
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
It is us who are going to get us out of the mess the country is in, as it always is. That’s the American way, or at least, it always has been.
To project your hopes and dreams on a messiah of sorts is a mistake. To give him the power to run your lives is an even better mistake.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
bill clinton has been a better son to old man bush than george w has.
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Bush in the USA,
I can’t wait for Obama to step up to the plate!
Still waiting for his statement he promised in a “few” days…It’s been
4 days already and still no word.
Go to bat Obama…we’re waiting!
Posted by: Machiavellianism | December 14, 2008, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
No, you don’t understand any of this, BIA, if you think that it’s the bush administration or the clinton administration or any normal sort of thing like that.
No, it’s the financial mania we seem to have been engaged in during the last 10 years, and the political one we seem to be in now, that’s got me worried. It’s a cultural thing, not merely political, you must understand.
We are in big trouble, and we would have been no matter who was elected, I think.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
I’m hoping it just turns out to be more American silliness and we weather it with the usual frivolity and vacuousness.
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
except with george w bush.
bush clammed the country down, and for any one who tried to talk about the mess,or getting out of it, were called unpatriotic.
so i guess the us were powerless and voiceless against old dubya, huh?
because he is leaving this country is a mess. just as he did the oil deal, and the baseball team, and now the country.
i guess belle starr and midwestlady are the only ones (besides bush and co.)
who can say they are better off now than they were eight years ago
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Yes, and I think we have to get back to the topic. 4 days = a few days? When is Obama going to ante up??
Posted by: midwestlady | December 14, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Belle Starr and midwestlady: Can’t you find a way to say something constructive.
“Smiley-face fascism in an off-black birthday suit, exclaimed over by a huge cohort of middle-aged white guys on teevee. Here’s hoping Michelle rats him out to Fitzgerald. For the good of the children.”
Posted by: Bloggy | December 14, 2008, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
mach,
one president at a time,
and you haven’t heard for george w either.
i think obama will step up to the plate when it is his turn,
oh, i know you are ready (we all are)
for george to step aside, i am sure george w is too.
but we will have to wait until jan 21.
i myself can hardly wait to see old george w walk up those steps and turn and wave. watch closely, he may give us one last up yours
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
“Anything they could possibly see in Afghanistan would be nothing like Buchenwald. Google it.”
I’m from the WarBaby generation, but distressingly well-informed about the Germans’ labor and extermination camps — from film and reading, and from eye-witness accounts, including those of a late neighbor whose unit took part in liberating one of the camps.
Whatever the armed forces are seeing in Afghanistan and Iraq is not so centralized, but is driving people crazy all the same — maybe it’s the use of high technology and air assault against people without an air force.
And then there’s the obscenity of “our” military torture of detainees at Gitmo, and God knows where-all else, along with a kind of collective punishment of Arab areas in general, while “our” Congress supports Israeli policies and actions not so different from those of the Nazis.
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Where is the video of George Bush ducking shoes thrown by an Iraqi news reporter today?
Posted by: Bloggy | December 14, 2008, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
obama will be up
when george steps down.
we would not have had this mess, no matter who was in office,
al gore is a lot smarter than george bush.
eight years ago, everything looked rosey
and everyone wanted a prez they could go have a beer with, well we got him.
and now look at the mess he is leaving.
if this had been good economic years
bush would be taking credit for it.
and bush is the face of this failed eight years. it is not just the ecomony,
it is everything that bush had a hand in.
it has all failed and needs to be redone.
by some people who seem to care, and are smart enough to do it.
bush got us all.
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
I just watched the RNC video and it makes no sense at all. Looks like the RNC is once again proving to be very poor losers, as John McCain stated today.
And surely with the Blago mess and the FBI building a court case, there is certain information that might have to be withheld from the public for a short time. It is a criminal investigation after all, with certain protocols that have to be followed.
What is the hurry to find this info out when it is all on tape and will come out? Surely the RNC doesn’t think Obama or his team would try to deal for the senator of their choice to be picked by Blago when they knew Blago was under investigation already for other matters?
Obama and his team didn’t win a very tough election by being oblivious to what is going on around them. If everyone in Chicago knew Blago was being investigated, I’m sure they did, too.
Posted by: Lydia | December 14, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Yawn
Posted by: Cameron | December 14, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
Are you serious Bush in USA?
So Obama should not issue a statement until after Jan. 20…This country will not wait. He needs to stip up now and make a statememt on the Illinoise scandel.
Posted by: Machiavellianism | December 14, 2008, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
It is writen in the Bible that, birds of the same feather all flock together.
Posted by: James | December 14, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
“What is the hurry to find this info out when it is all on tape and will come out?”
Some sticklers might want to know what Obama’s involvement was, before he’s inaugurated into Executive Privilege, and given the power to pardon, or administratively rehabilitate the record of, every mobster IN Chicago? Could THAT be it?
Posted by: Belle Starr | December 14, 2008, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
You see, how it works is..
Bush pardons George Ryan before he leaves ofice…Obama will then pardon Rezko and Blago before he leaves office.
and so on and so….
Posted by: Machiavellianism | December 14, 2008, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
we know rahm talked to blago. we also know what didn’t happen was blago was not offered a deal to appoint anyone on the list, ticking blago off.
we also know karl rove needs to get rid of eric holder to protect the constitutional violations rove helped engineer. so rove is trying to derail holder’s nomination.
I think ‘distraction’ is appropriate…
Posted by: kravitz | December 14, 2008, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
mach,
are you serious?
you and everybody else should be calling for bush to be brought up on war crimes.
and i mean today.
let the ill courts and anybody else working on the badgovbit, and if obama falls he falls.
but we the us citizens should be all laser focused on bush being brought up on war crimes.
until that happens, all of the other things you are calling for justice on will not matter.
bush for war crimes now
and maybe right will start to being served again.
the head bush was wrong, and did wrong
and seems to be getting away with it.
badgovbit=iraq
bush=osama
stop looking at badgov. because bush is getting away.
bush took the eye off osama, by lying us into iraq.
bush for war crimes.
nothing will be right until that happens.
and you all know it.
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
don’t know where my comments went
but no pardon for bush.
bush for war crimes, that is it.
and mach, if you are not calling for justice on that,
the other stuff you want justice for, will not mean a think
‘bush for war crimes.
and you all know it.
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
the rnc,
could do there party a lot of good if they lead the charge in bring bush up for war crimes.
who care about any video they have pasted together,
their leader is a war criminal
and it needs to be addressed.
Posted by: bush the USA | December 14, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
It’s the campaign that wouldn’t die!
Posted by: Gus | December 14, 2008, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Bush…
you are soooo stuck on Bush.
The topic is Blago and Obama.
If Bush is brought up on war crimes, I will have a few words to say then. But, for now he will be out of office soon and the world is waiting for Obama to “step up to the plate” as you say.
I will have my popcorn ready!
Posted by: Machiavellianism | December 14, 2008, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Tendergroins,
“Now,isnt that something… an educated journalist throwing a shoe at the very man that says he liberated Iraq from the tyranny of Saddam. I thought the Iraqis loved Bush. How could I have misunderstood all this? Mr. Bush, we have a shoe for you when you get home.”
Now, THAT was funny.
Posted by: Blogger | December 14, 2008, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Lt. Governor Pat Quinn and Attorney General Lisa Madigan BOTH WANT TO BE GOVERNOR. Had to smile at Meet The Press today. Quinn has been trying for at least a year to drum up support to impeach Blagojevich so he can become governor. Lisa’s father, Speaker of the House Mike Madigan, has been in a big time feud with Blagojevich. He also wants his daughter to be governor and sees no conflict of interest if she would get elected. For those who don’t live in Illinois…THESE PEOPLE ALL HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDA. The state would be way better off if they would all just tend to their own business. They are loving this!!!
Posted by: RL in Illinois | December 14, 2008, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
blogger,
just saw the shoe incident,
sufice to say bush will not be giving any press conferences any more.
i don’t know what is the world coming to
on his inaguration day, he had to get back in the car from doing the traditional walk, because people were throwing eggs at him.
and now that bush is leaving office.
he is having shoes thrown at him.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhha-oh my goodness-catching my breath-hahahahahahahahhahahahhahhhahahahhaha
well i will say one thing for bush
he sure knows how to duck a shoe,
maybe a shoe thrown at him before?
Posted by: oh no! | December 14, 2008, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
mach,
you should be helping sound the alarm to bring bush up on war crimes.
you will have your popcorn ready?
what does that mean.
you watch a war criminal get away, while you eat popcorn?
any other justice you all are calling for means nothing until
bush is brought up for war crimes.
yes i am soooo stuck on it.
because it should be addressed.
the dead for nine eleven,the four thousand plus american souls, and the dead iraq’ people call for someone to be stuck on it.
lets all focus on a corrupt gov. from a state that has three or four other govs already in jail. and look over a president who should be brought up on war crimes.
does that seem like justice.
the badgovbit seems to be a problem for the state of ill.
now bush the war criminal president.
that is a problem for all us citizens.
to catch badgovbit and let bush get away is not justice.
bush for war crimes that is justice
and mach, you know it.
it is like barney fife looking over the man who is robbing the bank to give a ticket the a guy for parking in the wrong spot.
priorities all wrong.
bush for war crimes first.
Posted by: bush the usa | December 14, 2008, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Isn’t there a “Bush War Crime” blog somewhere that you can get in on!
You’re too obsessed and starting to freak me out.
Posted by: Machiavellianism | December 14, 2008, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
yes, and this should be one to.
should be part of the MSM.
so bush the war criminal does not freak you out.
but me talking about it does?
Posted by: bush the usa | December 14, 2008, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm
until we deal with the bush war crimes issue
the other things you all are harping about having justice for is just fluff.
Posted by: bush the usa | December 14, 2008, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
They had to bust him because the local paper printed that he was being taped.
Probably some pol tipped off the paper because the info on the auction was getting too messy.
Posted by: Bertie | December 14, 2008, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
oh PAHLEEEEEZE… I guess the RNC has nothing else better to do than to drum up falsehoods!!!! Nice try….but sorry, Obama’s hands will be clean when all is said and done!
Posted by: Richard | December 15, 2008, 1:36 am 1:36 am
it shouldn’t surprise anyone that obama is already involved in a scandel before he even takes office. He showed nothing but bad character all the way through the election with all his lying and deceptions. He even lied about his voting record. And of course there has always been his association’s with terrorists and hate filled people like wright and he bought his house with the help of a now convicted criminal, but yet the majority of the american people voted for him. That shows there is something wrong with the character of many american’s and we as a nation will pay for that and we already are bringing judgement upon our selves.
Posted by: charlie | December 15, 2008, 5:39 am 5:39 am
Republicans do not care about this Blago sham. The real goal of the Republican party is to paint the SEIU in a negative light.
The Republicans have a well-established reputation of hate towards employed Americans. It bothers them that unionized employees have protection against slavery.
Republicans obviously would prefer for the Big 3 to go out of business so that more people can get unemployment and welfare. That way, they would have more people to tell scream ‘pull yourself up by your bootstrap’, eh?
Posted by: Lights On | December 15, 2008, 5:44 am 5:44 am
In a way, it’s OK though. It’s this kind of garbage that caused the devastation of the Republicans in the last election. And now they just want to bury themselves.
Posted by: Richard in Texas | December 15, 2008, 11:40 am 11:40 am
So nice to see that the freezing rain hasn’t frozen up any Republican delusions and the padded wall crowd that frequents this board.
Posted by: Bud | December 15, 2008, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
I am so looking forward to supporting the new president, just as some have supported President George W. Bush.
Posted by: omaoma | December 15, 2008, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
It is interesting.
Posted by: NC voter | January 3, 2009, 9:21 am 9:21 am