The Note, 12/23/08: Show It All? Report to Test Obama’s Openness

The governor of NY should not appoint Caroline Kennedy to fill Hillary’s seat. She has the nerve to want that seat when she didn’t vote in an election about 6 or 7 times. She doesn’t deserve that seat. All she wants is power. She came out of nowhere to endorse Obama. Where was she before? There are many good state senator’s that are available and have the experience that she hasn’t learned yet.

No one is going to buy an internal report from the Obama team as the endgame in the speculation of his staff’s involvement with Blago. And God knows what could blow up at a potential trial…
http://www.political-buzz.com/

Marianne, would you mary me?

I think the world of Caroline Kennedy – but, in all reality – being the daughter of a former president is just not enough. What about all the long serving members of the house and state legisltaure?

Obama putting out information two days before Christmas, when no one is watching. I have to hand it to the man, he’s an operator… but usually, those people don’t last forever. I don’t think this country can take another scandal of corrupt politicians.

Go have some eggnog!

NObama, open and honest? Yeah. Right. And I’m the Queen of England.

So Obama’s in Hawaii and Emmanuel is headed for Africa. How nice that they can afford extended vacations in the sun. The American people are slowly going broke while their politicians play.

“So Obama’s in Hawaii and Emmanuel is headed for Africa. How nice that they can afford extended vacations in the sun. The American people are slowly going broke while their politicians play.”
Give me a break. Don’t like your situation? Work harder and make better decisions.

Talk about the kettle calling the pot black, all this bull about Democratic Party corruption pales by comparison to the corruption and venality of this last Republican administration. Also, small town politics does not get much media coverage, but Republicans in small towns are easily the most corrupt in the world.

Mariann Pepitone – just another self-appointed expert. “Obama’s Emanuel is not as innocent as Obama claims.” “Obama duped the American public and they fell for his lies.” You are stating these as facts. I think you forgot to word these as opinions. If you have some evidence then share it, otherwise it is opinion. I haven’t seen any evidence of either of these and there are other possible conclusions other than the one you jumped to. For example, maybe people believed Obama’s lies more than McCain’s lies. Or maybe they voted for Obama because he told less lies than McCain. For maybe they voted for Obama because of some positive trait that he had that they thought was more important than positive traits of McCain. Or maybe they voted for Obama because they agreed with more of his approach to problems we have than with McCain. Obviously, almost as many people thought McCain would be a better choice. That is not a problem because Americans get to determine who is going to be president every four years. There is always a first and second place. Get over your jumping to conclusion you cannot validate and make a positive contribution to our country.

Barack Obama is not responsible for the Illinois Governor’s missteps and Caroline Kennedy is hardly unqualified to be a Senator for the State of New York. Let BHO have his say about Blagojevich and be prepared to have another Senator Kennedy of New York. BHO is likely to have put together, as Administrator, the best team we could have to work against the current economic crisis and the country will eventually be thankful for it, if there is any thanks left in this country at all for deeds well done. It may not settle well with some of those who have posted here, but, gee, that’s just too bad, isn’t it?

MikeMo1947
Listen here, you relentless defender of barry O who claims to be “independent”.
Actually conservatives are FAR more generous with their $$$ to charity. This is what the gov’t has stated after reviewing households/states that went Bush/Kerry in 04′, I didn’t make this up.
One doesn’t have to look much further than Mr. “it’s patriotic to pay higher taxes” biden, and Mr. owns a private yacht,private jet, 5 houses and has $30,000 monthly utility bills Gore (that is one HECK of a “carbon foot print”)
Both of these men have made millions in recent years and have given less then 1% to charity. Again, I did not make this up.

Silky,
You are the one who scares me, clearly the sugar from the kool-aid has settled in your brain.
Biden, yes BIDEN, was giving a speech just a month ago when he called wealthy at $150,000. Barry has stated that $200,000 is wealthy. So which is it? What will it be once the socialist and his socialist henchmen pelosi, reid, frank decide on how much more is “patriotic” of me to pay?

MikeMo1947: will you marry me? Thank you for being the voice of reason.
Reading these comments is not good for the blood pressure. Neither is reading The Note, which is determined to distract the public from the real issues, in order to get some kind of “payback” for criticism the Bush administration got fouling up. Oh, Democrats didn’t like the Bush people outting a CIA agent to punish her husband for criticizing the war? Why, we will hound Ralm Emanuel for talking to the Illinois governor about Obama’s replacement, even though by all rights a Representative WOULD talk to a Governor of a state regarding an appointment, as long as nothing was promised in return, which, drumroll, it was NOT! What is most disturbing is the role of the media. Used to be the media was on the side of truth, on the side of the American people. Now, the media act as waterboys for the Republican party. That is what is most disturbing: The Note swiftboating our Peresdident Elect and his staff, for what? Not in the name of accountability, or transparency, but, my guess, to entertain the type of Republican yahoos who comment on this board. The news is not news anymore, its entertainment.

“Silky,
You are the one who scares me, clearly the sugar from the kool-aid has settled in your brain.”
That’s your response? For real? Well argued.

Writ of Certiorari is still pending and is now scheduled for Conference before U.S. Supreme Court on January 9, 2009. Videos being removed, posts being deleted. There has been a frightening suppression of the facts.

please, conspiracy theorists, give us your evidence of Emanuel’s guilt. no matter how transparent Obama is on this issue for the right-wingers it will never be enough. Fitzpatrick has already said neither Obama nor any member of his team is under investigation. calling Obama corrupt just shows how low some people will go, but i know they are just following their leaders: Limbaugh and O’Reilly: no facts please, just trash, trash, trash and hate, hate, hate.

Who Wrote Dreams From My Father?
By Jack Cashill
Prior to 1990, when Barack Obama contracted to write Dreams From My Father, he
had written very close to nothing. Then, five years later, this untested 33
year-old produced what Time Magazine has called — with a straight face –
“the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician.”
The public is asked to believe Obama wrote Dreams From My Father on his own,
almost as though he were some sort of literary idiot savant. I do not buy this
canard for a minute, not at all. Writing is as much a craft as, say, golf. To
put this in perspective, imagine if a friend played a few rounds in the high 90s
and then a few years later, without further practice, made the PGA Tour. It
doesn’t happen…….

“their intolerance for dissent and their willingness to censor and otherwise suppress their opponents– And I suspect, at the end of the day, we will pay an equally high price for Obama’s concealment of truth.”
HAHAHAHAHA — GWB and the last 8 years anyone? Will the price be higher than the loss of millions of our young men and women? … and let’s not forget the countless billions upon billions of dollars Bush has cost this country. Bush drove us into this recession with this neverending war brought on by his pack of lies about 9/11 & Iraq.
And intolerance & censorship… LMAO! are you kidding me? …again, please see the last 8 years under the current administration.
You Republican lemmings are just downright insane!

“I do not buy this
canard for a minute, not at all. Writing is as much a craft as, say, golf. To
put this in perspective, imagine if a friend played a few rounds in the high 90s
and then a few years later, without further practice, made the PGA Tour.”
Not even close. Horrible analogy. And he clearly has command of language, to which anybody who paid any attention to the campaign will attest. Books have editors, too, y’know.
Keep trying. It’s healthy to be this preoccupied with fools’ errands.

To whoever called Mr RBarley a tool, you are obviously another “open-minded” liberal.

Instead of calling RBarly names why don’t you try and dispute some of what they have said? I bet I know the answer…there really is no disputing FACTS!

Of note, Politico reporters Ben Smith and Jeffrey Resner observe that “the
temperate legal language doesn’t display the rhetorical heights that run
through his memoir, published a few years later.”
Once elected president of the Harvard Law Review –more of a popularity than a
literary contest — Obama contributed not one signed word to the HLR or any
other law journal. As Matthew Franck has pointed out in National Review Online,
“A search of the HeinOnline database of law journals turns up exactly
nothing credited to Obama in any law review anywhere at any time.”
A 1990 New York Times profile on Obama’s election as Harvard’s first
black president caught the eye of agent Jane Dystel. She persuaded Poseidon, a
small imprint of Simon & Schuster, to authorize a roughly $125,000 advance
for Obama’s proposed memoir.
With advance in hand, Obama repaired to Chicago where he dithered. At one
point, in order to finish without interruption, he and wife Michelle decamped to
Bali. Obama was supposed to have finished the book within a year. Bali or not,
advance or no, he could not. He was surely in way over his head..
According to a surprisingly harsh 2006 article by liberal publisher Peter
Osnos, which detailed the “ruthlessness” of Obama’s literary
ascent, Simon & Schuster canceled the contract. Dystel did not give up.
She solicited Times Book, the division of Random House at which Osnos was
publisher. He met with Obama, took his word that he could finish the book, and
authorized a new advance of $40,000.
Then suddenly, somehow, the muse descended on Obama and transformed him from a
struggling, unschooled amateur, with no paper trail beyond an unremarkable legal
note and a poem about fig-stomping apes, into a literary superstar.
To be sure, it is not unusual for successful politicians to hire ghostwriters
– John McCain gives due credit to Mark Salter for his memoir, Faith of My
Fathers — but it is highly unusual for unknown young Chicago lawyers to hire
ghostwriters.
I have attempted to contact Dystel by phone and email without success. It is
highly unlikely she refashioned the book, and Osnos admittedly did not. If my
suspicions are correct, the ghost on this book shared many of Obama’s
sentiments, spoke his language and spent considerable time reworking the text.
I bought Bill Ayers’ 2001 memoir, Fugitive Days, for reasons unrelated to
this project. As I discovered, he writes surprisingly well and very much like
“Obama.” In fact, my first thought was that the two may have shared
the same ghostwriter. Unlike Dreams, however, where the high style is
intermittent, Fugitive Days is infused with the authorial voice in every
sentence. What is more, when Ayers speaks, even off the cuff, he uses a cadence
and vocabulary consistent with his memoir. One does not hear any of Dreams in
Obama’s casual speech.

What a relief to know that if I ever run afoul of the law or come under suspicion of wrongdoing I have merely to conduct my own internal investigation to clear myself. America has become a better place today. :P

I think the democratic and republican parties are about equal in corruption. It’s just that it is the democrats turn to be in the limelight. I think we should all take a step back and wait…if Obama does a good job, then it’s good for the country..if not, then there is alway another election. But, gees, let him get in office before we accuse, blame and anihilate him. Things can’t get any worse and a democrate was not in charge. He has great plans and good people to carry them through. As Joe Biden says, let’s wait and see and judge him by what he accomplishes not by what we think he won’t accomplish. Let’s start off with positive feelings instead of negative ones. As far as Warren goes, Obama does not agree with him but he admires his work with the poor which has always been something Obama has been involved with.

Again, you might have noticed that Obama has been praised going all the way back to his speech at the 2004 DNC for his way with language and communication skills. You’re really barking up the wrong tree with this book.
Do you guys actually have anything of substance? Like anything? All of your whining is speculative. How about growing up and letting the man do his job before judging his merits as a president, eh?

liberalsaresocialists — I’m sure you’re as open-minded as they come.
Don’t you have some hating to do?
Idiot.

The internal obama
campaign idea, is to twist, distort, humiliate, and finally dispirit you. — key techniques used in the Alinsky method. We pay people and organize people to go on all the online sites and play the part of a supporter We do this to stifle your motivation, to destroy your confidence. They did this the whole primary against Hillary, and in the Election against McCain and it worked! They removed videos, suppressed the facts about obama and his associates. The american public was manipulated by saul alinsky’s best student. They will destroy us from within.

liberalsaresocialists—”whoever called Mr RBarley”…let him speak for himself! he’s obviously very creative with distorting facts and writing rubbish without documentation. so there’s a writ of cert before the Supreme Court, the previous two were thrown out and are recycling in a D.C. trash bin. the merits weren’t even heard. thrown out!
Obama is literate. he graduated top of his class in law school and tought constitutional law.
i bow before that before i’ll ever will before some hate, cripracy-driven fool.
President -Elect Obama won the election dispite all the hate thrown at him (it was massive—everyone saw it: “terrorist”, “kill him”, “al qaeda”, “terrorist”, “treason” with McCain and Palin saying nothing just nodding with their sh**-eating grins). the election is over. it was not close. Obama won more than Bush did either term (of course the first one he hardly won).

RBarley,
The frightening thing is that 99.9% of Americans have NO idea who Alinsky is. The man actually mapped out ways to paint republicans as racist-REPUBLICANS!
This is the same party that was founded to abolish slavery and who holds Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King in its legacy. Doesn’t anyone remember George Wallace these days??
Alinksy taught how to enslave massive groups of people by training people to be “community organizers/agitators by pointing fingers at the “greedy rich white folk” at the top.
Obama and Rev Wright have taken alinsky’s style and mastered it. Barry vacations in $30million dolllar homes and rev racist lives in a $2million dollar mansion. How was America fooled like this?????

All I can say is after eight years of the Cheney administration (he really was in charge) what accomplishments can we address….Guantanomo? No….the war?….no. Failing of banks? NO. Auto industry?…No Respect of other countries? No. I feel sorry for Bush as he listened to the wrong man and gave him too much power. I’m looking ahead to a better world. I’ll put my money on Obama/Biden.

Worse still, the suicide of both print and electronic journalism has ensured that, should Barack Obama be elected president, the public will only then learn what they should have known far earlier about their commander-in-chief — but in circumstances and from sources they may well regret.

iberalsaresocialists and Mr R. Barley—are you guys dating. Saul Alinsky, LOL. and you’re serious, too?! LMFAO! you’re too much. since abc, cbs, cnn, msnbc, npr all expect a little proof, why not run home to Rush so he can tell you your opnion?

Jesus was the biggest liberal of all. WWJD? Tis the season, don’t forget the reason. Marianne Pepitone – go away. Far far away. Your negative spewing is giving me heartburn. Silky – grow a real set.

“Thanks to the liberal Kool-Aid drinkers,”
Well, if you had half a clue, you would know that your own party is responsible for his victory. He won over moderate Republicans who have become nauseated by their party and the decisions made by the heads of their party.

Paul wall
Do you fantacize about barry O on a nightly basis, or is it just a weekend thing for you?
People like you are the reason barry was allowed to squeak by. No matter what the mounting reasons that surfaced were that exposed barry as a corrupt, anti-American(which most liberals are), anti-capitalist(which all liberals are), racist, you would still vote for him because he is about change. Very sad.

“The point is his ‘internal report’ amounts to nothing. What you call ‘proactive’ most people would call ‘cover my ass’. And hate to break it to you, but Bush had nothing to do with it. Inserting ‘Bush’ into an argument is an ineffective attempt to divert attention.”
No, it’s a way of highlighting the fact that he’s under no obligation to do it, and some….BUSH (somebody you guys somehow, astonishingly, champion)….absolutely would not do it.

respectfulcitizen
And when what you have predicted does not come to pass, can we expect an apology from you for spreading lies and doubts about our future, most competent President in history? Will you then promise to stop listening to conservative crack radio and start demanding the media report facts, not inuendo?

Silky, you’re making an assumption about who I am. Again, Bush had nothing to do with it. Stay on subject if you want to argue about it.

In Fugitive Days, “rage” rules and in high style as well. Ayers
tells of how his “rage got started” and how it evolved into an
“uncontrollable rage — fierce frenzy of fire and lava.” Indeed, the
Weathermen’s inaugural act of mass violence was the “Days of Rage”
in 1969 Chicago.
As in Chicago, that rage led Ayers to a sentiment with which Obama was
altogether familiar, “audacity!” Ayers writes, “I felt the
warrior rising up inside of me — audacity and courage, righteousness, of
course, and more audacity.” This is one of several references.
The combination of audacity and rage has produced two memoirs that follow oddly
similar rules. Ayers describes his as “a memory book,” one that
deliberately blurs facts and changes identities and makes no claims at history.
Obama says much the same. In Dreams, some characters are composites. Some
appear out of precise chronology. Names have been changed.
As a control, allow me to introduce my own book, Sucker Punch, which is no
small part a memoir about race, specifically in my relationship, at great
remove, with Muhammad Ali and the world of boxing. In the book, I describe my
own unreconstructed coming of age in racially charged Newark, New Jersey as it
happened. I change no names, create no composite characters, alter no
chronologies. Most memoirs observe the same conventions. Dreams and Fugitive
Days, however, are both suffused with repeated reference to lies, lying and what
Ayers calls, in his pitch perfect post-modern patois, “our constructed
reality.”
“But another part of me knew that what I was telling them was a lie,”
writes Obama, “something I’d constructed from the scraps of information
I’d picked up from my mother.”
“That whole first year seemed like one long lie,” Obama writes of his
first year in college in Los Angeles, one of at least a dozen references to lies
and lying in “Dreams,” a figure nearly matched in “Fugitive
Days.”
The reader knows that Ayers — with some justification — has much to hide. He
senses that Obama does too, but he is never quite sure why. This presumed
poetic license leads to the frequent manipulation of dates to make a political
point.
“I saw a dead body once, as I said, when I was ten, during the Korean
War,” writes Ayers. This correlation is important enough that Ayers
mentions it twice. The only problem is that Ayers was eight when the Korean War
ended.
Obama tells us that when he was ten, he and his family visited the mainland..
On the trip, back in their motel room, they watched the Watergate Hearings on
TV. The problem, of course, is that those hearing started just before Obama
turned twelve.
One could forgive a single missed date, but inconsistent dates and numbers
appear frequently in both books and often reinforce some moment of lost
innocence. In the same spirit, both books abound in detail too closely
remembered and conversations too well recorded. These moments in both books
occasionally lead to an awareness of the nation’s seemingly ineradicable
racism..

In 1970, for instance, the 9-year-old Obama alleges to be visiting the American
embassy Indonesia. While waiting, he chances upon “a collection of Life
magazines neatly displayed in clear plastic binders.”
In one magazine, he reads a story about a black man with an “uneven,
ghostly hue,” who has been rendered grotesque by a chemical treatment.
“There were thousands of people like him,” Obama learned, “black
men and women back in America who’d undergone the same treatment in response
to advertisements that promised happiness as a white person.”
Obama’s attention to detail is a ruse. Life never ran such an article. When
challenged, Obama claimed it was Ebony. Ebony ran no such article either.
Besides, black was beautiful in 1970.
In a similar vein, Ayers tells of hitching a ride in Missouri with
“Bud,” the driver of a “brand-new Peterbilt truck.” The man
proceeds to regale Ayers with a string of dirty jokes — at least two of them
retold word for word — before reaching under his seat and pulling out a large
pistol, his “N****r neutralizer.”
“White people can never quite remember the scope and scale of the
slavocracy,” Ayers reminds the reader again and again, writing as though he
were not a member of this benighted race.
These parallels intrigue perhaps, but they prove little. To add a little
science to the analysis, I identified two similar “nature” passages in
Obama’s and Ayers’ respective memoirs, the first from Fugitive Days:
“I picture the street coming alive, awakening from the fury of winter,
stirred from the chilly spring night by cold glimmers of sunlight angling
through the city.”

““That’s not in my sites……” said Palin. WHY can’t you guys learn to spell? The dictionary defines SIGHTS as “The foreseeable future.”

I think Caroline Kennedy would do a great job… why… because she will be honest and for the people. She is not your typical politician.
Now for the comment of “The democratic party has been corrupt for years so who cares what the governor did or didn’t do.” LOLOL Like the Republicans are honest. Give me a break, what a stupid comment.

They must read the nyt for the misguided truth. Keep trying l.A.S. Keep up the good work! Sooner or later the okads will see the light hopefully sooner than later, we have lees than a month.—- see tyYou are just wrong. Our country was built of CONSERVATIVE principles….
-small efficient gov’t
-large military
-citizen self-reliance
-small taxes for everyone
Liberals have been chipping away at these cornerstone principles for years.
I know you want to spread the blame around like barry wants to spread the wealth, but you are wrong.
Of course there have been pleny of republicans masquerading as conservatives (mccain, bush in his last 4 years) that have not helped the economy. However, liberals hold the blame for the our near economic collapse. They have been trying to turn us into cuba for years and they have almost succeeded with the election of barry castro!
Posted by: liberalsaresocialists

Obama pulled off the deal before being sworn in as Senator, this way to avoid
the disclosure and reporting requirements applicable to members of Congress. To
his credit, Osnos publicly scolds Obama for his “ruthlessness” and
“his questionable judgment about using public service as a personal
payday.”
Unfortunately, the technology is not currently available to do a fully reliable
authorship analysis. As expert in the field Patrick Juola of Duquesne
University observed, “The accuracy simply isn’t there.” He cautioned
that for high stakes issues like this one, “The repercussions of a technical
error could be a disaster (in either direction).”
That much said, preliminary QSUM analysis supports an Ayers-Obama link.
Systems designer Ed Gold–with twenty years of high-level experience in image
and signal processing, pattern recognition, and classifier design and
implementation–volunteered to run a QSUM scan on multiple excerpts from both
memoirs. “I have completed the analysis,” he wrote me, “and I think you
will be pleased with the findings.” In assessing the signature of sample
passages from Dreams, he found “a very strong match to all of the Ayers
samples that I processed.”
Like Juola, Gold recognized the limitations of the process and of his own
resources. He has volunteered to make the raw data available to more established
authorship authentication experts, and I will be happy to pass that data along.
Gold saw the complementary value, however, in text analysis, as did Juola, who
encouraged me “to do what you’re already doing . . . good old-fashioned
literary detective work.”
Given that advice, I dug deeper into both memoirs and established one
metaphoric thread that ties the two books together in a way I believe is just
shy of conclusive, a thread that leads back to Bill Ayers’s stint, after
dropping out of college, as a merchant seaman.
“I’d thought that when I signed on that I might write an American
novel about a young man at sea,” says Ayers in his memoir, Fugitive Days,
“but I didn’t have it in me.”
The experience had a powerful impact on Ayers. Years later, he would recall a
nightmare he had while crossing the Atlantic, “a vision of falling
overboard in the middle of the ocean and swimming as fast as I could as the ship
steamed off and disappeared over the horizon.”
Although Ayers has tried to put his anxious ocean-going days behind him, the
language of the sea will not let him go. “I realized that no one else could
ever know this singular experience,” Ayers writes of his maritime
adventures. Yet curiously, much of this same nautical language flows through
Obama’s earth-bound memoir.
“Memory sails out upon a murky sea,” Ayers writes at one point.
Indeed, both he and Obama are obsessed with memory and its instability. The
latter writes of its breaks, its blurs, its edges, its lapses. Obama also has a
fondness for the word “murky” and its aquatic usages.
“The unlucky ones drift into the murky tide of hustles and odd jobs,”
he writes, one of four times “murky” appears in Dreams. Ayers and
Obama also speak often of waves and wind, Obama at least a dozen times on wind
alone. “The wind wipes away my drowsiness, and I feel suddenly
exposed,” he writes in a typical passage. Both also make conspicuous use
of the word “flutter.”
Not surprisingly, Ayers uses “ship” as a metaphor with some
frequency. Early in the book he tells us that his mother is “the captain
of her own ship,” not a substantial one either but “a ragged thing
with fatal leaks” launched into a “sea of carelessness.”

“Silky, you’re making an assumption about who I am. Again, Bush had nothing to do with it. Stay on subject if you want to argue about it.”
The Bush comment was not the broader point, which is pretty obvious, but does, again, highlight Obama’s proactive contribution. I never left “on subject”, so you how about you take your own advice?

amused: Could not have said it better. One brother is Iowa National Guard, the other is a Iowa Vet. I pray Obama and his team take a hard good look at how badly our men and women who have been injured, not only physically but mentally, in this war which had no purpose and start from the ground up and stand up and take care of them properly, the way each and every one of us would want taken care of. If that means doing away with VA Hospitals and giving them a free ticket to any hospital and doctor of choice I am all for it. It just makes better since.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, see ya.

Obama’s team does not seem to have stepped in to allow uncomfortable questions to rise to the top, and instead is allowing his supporters to sanitize the site.

liberalsaresocialists – You are misinformed if you think only the conservatives formed this country. In 1776, the conservatives wanted to stay a part of the British Empire. It was liberals that wanted to break away. About ten years later when we were starting on the Constitutions, do you really think the conservatives said “lets form a new nation that has a government that is broken into three parts and the people vote to replace the leader every 4 years. I know it has never been done before, but let’s follow conservative principles and try something entirely new.” I don’t think so. There were liberal ideas and conservative ideas that created the Constitution. It required compromise to arrive at a Constitution that all 13 colonies would agree with.

liberalsaresocialists -
I’ve never even seen a Michael Moore movie, but that just goes to show how stupid you really are yet again. This has nothing to do with a movie or any one person against the war.
What I have seen are gut-wrenching personal blogs of countless soldiers describing their fear and anger firsthand. It’s horrible and heartbreaking; they deserve so much better.
Our soldiers receive the best care in the world… compared to what? And according to? Bush? Cheney? Limbaugh? O’Reilly? Right… that doesn’t mean it isn’t entirely subpar! Look at the rest of the world and their policies on human rights… not exactly role models across the globe, but that’s beside the point, really.

RBarkley:
Have you ever watched an extended interview with Obama? Obama speaks in complete, not to mention, complex, sentences. Ever watched Obama’s speech at the 2004 Democratic convention? That speech is more relevant as to why Obama got support in the his bid then the memoirs he wrote. (Personally, I’ve read Obama’s memoirs, I didn’t find them all that great.) I supported Obama because I agree with his policies and the direction he will take the country: tax cuts for the middleclass, an emphasis on diplomacy over military intervention in other countries, an active agenda to get us off oil and revive our manufacturing industries. If you disagree with Obama’s policies then argue on that, but don’t wear yourself trying to prove Obama is, what? A puppet of sixties radical, now college professor William Ayers? (Ooooh, articulate college professors, scary!)

amused,
Please do not call me stupid, that is not very “open minded” of you.

So the Obama camp will issue a statement so ambiguously worded there will be lots of wiggle room for details although he’ll adamantly deny any wrongdoing on the part of himself or his staff. Blagojevich has and will continue to deny any wrongdoing as well. Blagojevich can’t charge Obama with any wrongdoing without admitting his own.The FBI meanwhile holds the trump card in the form of recorded conversations. Somewhere in the midst of the three stories lies the truth. All we’ll ever know is whatever part of the story the FBI chooses to make official.

“amused,
Please do not call me stupid, that is not very “open minded” of you.”
Are you trying to be funny or annoying? I hope annoying is what you’re going for.

silky smooth
Exposing liberals as traitors, socialists, pansies, and anti-American is funny to me, but I am sure it is very annoying to you.

liberalsaresocialists – Now I understand. You determine the definition of liberal and conservative. You decide what is fact and what is lies. No one can win against you because you control the truth. I think that is the same game Russ Limbaugh and Michael Moore play. But you and they are wrong. No one has a perfect perception of the truth, much less the solution to problems. If it does not benefit you, then it is not the truth. Actually, those are pretty simple rules. I am glad our founding fathers didn’t use those rules or this country would never have been founded or achieved the great things it did. My last post since you are the only one that has been given perfect insight.

RBarley: Your man lost, get over it and move on. I know that is hard but that is what us people on the other side did when your idiot won. Get over it and yourself. As for your long posts…nobody cares.

“pledge of openness and transparency”
It’s called spoon feeding the press… took a couple weeks to prepare and make sure all their i’s were dotted and t’s crossed…

“”pledge of openness and transparency”
It’s called spoon feeding the press… took a couple weeks to prepare and make sure all their i’s were dotted and t’s crossed…”
Actually, it’s called being resonsible and adhering to the request of the US Attorneys office.

As for anyone who believes that B.O. has an honest bone in his body or is going to help get this country back on its feet, Santa Claus is going to pay you a visit tomorrow night too. Naive?

Obama’s economic narrative of the mortgage crisis ignores the facts. He has put free-market capitalism at the root of the current mortgage industry debacle, denying the real history of government interference in that market.

Silky
Are you really michelle obama? If you are, have you found a reason to be proud of America yet?
Did you enjoy vacationing in that $30 million dollar mansion this weekend? I am sure you were undoubtedly surrounded by “greedy rich white folk”, as your husband barry called them in his book.

Allison Davis, a major fund-raiser for Obama’s US Senate campaign and a former lead partner at Obama’s former law firm. Davis, a developer, was involved in the creation of Grove Parc and has used government subsidies to rehabilitate more than 1,500 units in Chicago, including a North Side building cited by city inspectors last year after chronic plumbing failures resulted in raw sewage spilling into several apartments.

liberalsaresocialists—your use of “all” is categorical and total. i would never say that about conservatives, after all the helped elect President-Elect Obama. i am not anti-american. i am not a communist. seven million more americans voted for Obama than McCain. you can blame that on first-time voters or whatever Rush tells you. i don’t worship Obama, he is the President elect and within a month he will be president. i know that makes you sick. and if you dispise liberals so much why not post on FOX or call Rush. but you crave the divisiveness, don’t you?

I supported Obama because I agree with his policies and the direction he will take the country: tax cuts for the middleclass, an emphasis on diplomacy over military intervention in other countries, an active agenda to get us off oil and revive our manufacturing industries. If you disagree with Obama’s policies then argue on that,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
OK I will bite.
Which of these things do you think Obama will do?
Tax cuts? Nope. I bet he will skip that and blame the economy.
> an emphasis on diplomacy over
>military intervention
Watch what happens in Afganistan.
See if he pulls all troops out of Iraq.
Already you hear him backing away from
his campaign and hes not even in office.
He is hiring all the BUSH people to run the military. ROFL.. If you voted for him on this.
>an active agenda to get us off oil and
>revive our manufacturing
How? How is the president going to do this?
Does he make factories? No.
Does he make laws? No.
If you want the government to make work then you should try the USSR. Its a great place known for their great economy and living conditions.
How about China? etc..
ROFL
The people that bought Obama’s lies are going to be choking on their excuses for many years..
Popeil will need to make a new machine for the Obama supporters named the Obama Excuse-omatic. The device to come up with new reasons that Obama is not delivering on his campaign promises.

Emanuel and Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., wrote to the Federal Communications Commission, urging the agency to act quickly on the sale of Tribune Co. to real-estate magnate Sam Zell. The lawmakers said the FCC shouldn’t allow its review of its media- ownership rules to delay completion of the transaction More Pay to Play? All the Presidents men are in deep. If Obama was a serious reformer don’t you think he would be known for doing this in his own state? Obama supporters have got to be disappointed, but dont be blind.

The Union is dying, it will end in smoke and fire.
Stock up on food, water, and ammo. Remember, no mercy to any hard core democrats. They ruined our good republic with their lies.

It is not truth that matters, but victory. Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it. Weatherman and admitted terrorist William Ayers (whom Obama described in the Philadelphia debate as merely a “neighbor”) was head of the operating arm of the CAC, working with Obama on distributing scores of millions of dollars to grantees in the wards of the city, and you have a topic that the Obama campaign wishes to avoid at all costs.
A compliant media has averted its eyes so far. A timeline of Obama’s career from George Washington University omits it. Why the McCain campaign has not raised more questions on the subject is a question beyond my pay grade. But there are signs it is on the case.
The four plus years (1995-1999) Barack Obama spent as founding chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) represent his track record as reformer, as someone who reached out in a public-private collaboration and had the audacity to believe his effort would make things better. At the time he became leader of this ambitious project to remake the public schools of Chicago, he was 33 years old and a third year associate at a small Chicago law firm, Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland.
This was a big test for him, his chance to cut his teeth on bringing hope and change to the mostly minority inner city school children trapped in Chicago schools. And he flopped big time, squandering lots of money and the time of many public employees in the process.
Given Senator Obama’s lack of any other posts as leader of an organization, someone unschooled in the ways of the American media might expect that for months reporters have been poring over the records of the project to get an idea of how it managed to fail so badly. Examining the track record of the guy who wants to lead the federal government would seem to be part of the campaign beat for media organizations.
But as a matter of fact, until recently, only a few bloggers were looking into the most important organized effort ever led by Barack Obama, prior to his successful campaigns for public office.
The Cover-up
Now, it appears a cover-up is underway, in order prevent journalists and researchers from getting access to the records of this charitable project housed in a taxpayer supported library. And there is a mystery:
The UIC Library says it is acting on behalf of the donor, whom it refuses to name.
It took Stanly Kurtz, of National Review Online to ask permission to see the files held by the publicly-funded University of Illinois Chicago (UIC). After initially agreeing, The Richard J. Daley Library withdrew permission. Kurtz writes:
“The Special Collections section of the Richard J. Daley Library agreed to let me read them, but just before I boarded my flight to Chicago, the top library officials mysteriously intervened to bar access. Circumstances strongly suggest the likelihood that Bill Ayers himself may have played a pivotal role in this denial. Ayers has long taught at UIC, where the Chicago Annenberg Challenge offices were housed, rent-free. Ayers likely arranged for the files of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge to be housed in the UIC library, and may well have been consulted during my unsuccessful struggle to gain access to the documents.”

Resko, Blagojevich, Emauel, Daly, Axelrod, Wright…can’t you remember when all this trash was used in the election and precipitated McCain/Palin loss. americans are so sick of this divisiveness. when you impugn someone’s character that is not respectful, at least when you have no evidence. if you are respectful citizen i suggest you run to the courthouse and file a lawsuit since you have all this evidence of a grand conspiracy. and then the Supreme Court can one day toss out your suit too—straight into a D.C recycling bin like the rest.

I am willing to sell my soul to the Devil, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorn, Rashid Khalidi, Father Pflager, Tony Rezko, Louis Farrakhan , who is the highest Bidder? -O
RBarley—- you left out — Nadhmi Auchi— But I’m sure there’s a few more! take note—–The Times of London reports:”A company related to Mr. Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered a loan to Mr. Obama’s bagman Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko on May, 23 2005. Mr. Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.”Three weeks later, Mr. Obama bought a house on the city’s South Side while Mr Rezko’s wife bought the garden plot next door from the same seller on the same day, June 15. Posted by:roscoeo2
Sorry roscoe

Here is his list, they’re all involved——–1. Rod Blagojevich 2. Tony Resko 3. Franklin Raines 4. Kwame Kilpatrick 5. Jim Johnson 6. William Ayers 7. Bernadine Dohrn 8. Rashid Khalidi 9. Jeremiah Wright 10, Father Michael Pfleger 11. Frank Marshall Davis 12. Saul Alinsky 13. Imad Husain 14. Mohammed Hasan Chandoo 15. Wahid Hamid 16.Vinai Thummalapally 17. Sohale Siddiqi 18. Emanuel
The Chameleon is changing his colors! Does anyone think this guy looks like the next Joker in a Batman Movie? I’ve just been trying to decide what his name should be? Teflon Man? The Chameleon? Any ideas?

RBarley—also left out were Mickey Mouse and 532,795 pages of a document proving Obama part of the conspiracy. a handshake does not a conspiracy make. and you could write a book on this blog. no matter how many times you write something ad nauseum it still doesn’t become true. seriously, man, is Rush’s station not taking calls today?

“The country is in turmoil but he can afford this;”
I am in awe of these particular posts.

I live in Illinois and he had to know about the
corruption (the Chicago machine) or he chose to look the other way.
I don’t know which is worse.

Ms liberalsaresocialists—the names are real, you are correct. what they mean is what is at stake. the President-Elect has met many people and has many friends. what does it mean?
funny what you wrote about Bush. we welcome the hate. it doesn’t make me look foolish. and i’m more concerned about Cheney than i ever was about Bush.
really it’s just funny what you-neocon haters will write, the diatribe, innuendo. it’s quite entertaining. but quite sad and pathetic as well.

One cannot help but wonder, does Obama know any good people? Here is his list, they’re all involved——–1. Rod Blagojevich 2. Tony Resko 3. Franklin Raines 4. Kwame Kilpatrick 5. Jim Johnson 6. William Ayers 7. Bernadine Dohrn 8. Rashid Khalidi 9. Jeremiah Wright 10, Father Michael Pfleger 11. Frank Marshall Davis 12. Saul Alinsky 13. Imad Husain 14. Mohammed Hasan Chandoo 15. Wahid Hamid 16.Vinai Thummalapally 17. Sohale Siddiqi 18. Emanuel

It’s the emanate front.

This report is delayed because the demobrats are picking thru it with a fine tooth comb, and Obaba wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped him in the face. Caroline K.S. is also a JOKE, boy you demobrats will put anything in office.LOL !!!!!

bo—that would include McCain and Palin as well, right? or are only the republicans not corrupt?

- Your reference to President Elect Barack Obama; “In one magazine, he reads a story about a black man with an “uneven, ghostly hue,” who has been rendered grotesque by a chemical treatment. “There were thousands of people like him,” Obama learned, “black men and women back in America who’d undergone the same treatment in response to advertisements that promised happiness as a white person.”
“Obama’s attention to detail is a ruse. Life never ran such an article. When
challenged, Obama claimed it was Ebony. Ebony ran no such article either.
Besides, black was beautiful in 1970.”
Posted by: RBarley | Dec 23, 2008 10:52:16 AM
Barley, you spend an inordinate amount of time (and energy) attempting to discredit the President Elect. (Reads like a ‘Personal Thing’ to me.) You’re either a “passionate wanna’ be intellect” or a “shade tree literary critic” lacking intellectual substance. For-the-record, Ebony magazine HAS run “Skin Lightener” “Skin Bleach” and “Skin Whitener” advertisements going all the way back to the 1940′s. And I have personally read numerous articles regarding the negative dermatological effects of the chemicals in the products. Furthermore, there is NO “Subject Catalog” at Ebony Magazine, so where do you get your information from? Sounds like self-serving concoctions to me.

chaos—that may be true about liberals and contributions. i don’t consider myself a liberal but gave as much as i could to the campaign (i’m not a wealthy person). if you could would you post the newspaper article, hopefully with a link to the paper’s article. no need to quote a forthcoming book. i would like the actual quote in context, in the article, in the paper.
if any form of evidence was required at all to post here there wouldn’t be a single post. not one.

Seriously…given the US Attorney’s statements, what exactly are the “unanswered questions” regarding Obama’s connection to Gov. Blagojevich’s machinations?
And if an internal investigation is not enough, shall we appoint a Special Prosecutor a la Ken Starr once Obama is sworn in, as the Republicans insisted on doing regarding the non-issue of Whitewater once Bill Clinton was sworn in?
I’m not a big Obama fan (voted for him, but not part of The Movement), yet all I see in this is the media’s ginning up of overly-parsed statements by Obama.
I expect this from the right wing-nuts and Democratic dead-enders, but why is the media so lazy and so shallow as to be creating this narrative?
Oh..wait…it’s because the media is ALWAYS lazy and shallow, thus needing to create a narrative that can entertain The Village while truly newsworthy items are left to bloggers, some of whom actually do the important investigative work formerly done by old school journalists!

This self-blinding, superior mindset explains how liberals can accuse conservatives of racism for their legitimate political differences with Barack Obama while demeaning, with racist epithets, Condoleezza Rice or Clarence Thomas. It’s how they can mock conservatives for being close-minded while unilaterally declaring the end to the debate on global warming because of a mythical consensus they have decreed. It’s how they can demand every vote count and exclude military ballots. It’s how they can glamorize Jimmy Carter for gallivanting to foreign countries to supervise “fair elections” and pooh-pooh ACORN’s serial voter fraud in their own country. It’s how they can threaten the tax-exempt status of evangelical churches for preaching on values, even when the churches don’t endorse candidates, but fully support a liberal church’s direct electioneering for specific candidates. It’s how they can ludicrously depict President Bush as a dictator while
romanticizing brute thug tyrants Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. It’s how they can falsely accuse President Bush of targeting innocent civilians in Iraq when he does everything possible to avoid civilian casualties but demand our withdrawal from South Vietnam, which resulted in the massacre of millions of innocents. It’s how they can advocate the banning of DDT in the name of environmental progress but be unconcerned about the untold malaria deaths that resulted.

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liberalsaresocialists, Good Luck, I have to go to work now, so I can continue to support those who don’t.— I will leave you with this thought…….If you believe the left is tolerant, open-minded and democratic, you’re in for a rude awakening. By, David Limbaugh

Paul
Barry sat in that pew for 20 freakin years, he brought his children to hear that crap. His book “audacity of hope” was titled after rev racist speech “audacity of hope”.
Can you honestly be that naive to think that barry condemned the hate speech for anything other than politcal gain? Are you waiting up for santa clause tomorrow night, too?
As I have stated before, i heard a pastor of mine equate gay people to 9/11 and how America was being punished for their behavior. I left that church and NEVER went back after that. Barry obviously stayed at Trinity because he agreed with what his pastor said.

Does Rush give you all extra Oxycontins for each time the word “liberal” is employed on a message board?

It’s funny. So many of you don’t even know your own party. Step off the farm once in a while, kids.

silky: Read the article! It’s at the New York TImes web site.

Silky: read it now and tell me that I’m wrong. You can’t handle the truth can you.

“Silky: read it now and tell me that I’m wrong. You can’t handle the truth can you.”
You and “truth” are two things I’ve yet to see in close proximity to one another.

great response. Read the article. It’s in your liberal paper. Posted by: chaos
you mean Progressive paper don’t you?

Just a word of thanks to those of you who are sane and attempt to thwart the self-righteous hate mongers. I skim through these types of thread occassionaly and it’s scary to see the real nuts out there. It’s even scarier to think anyone that has not been brainwashed by Rush or O’riely might read and believe what they say! So, thanks to you folks who take the time to respond and speak up against their insantiy.

Hey observer, we’d like to thank you for thanking us. Really. It just goes to show how right we really are.

dumbazzlib: why aren’t they just a paper that reports everything. Maybe thats why they are broke and laying off alot of people.

chaos: Because they have political motivations. But hey, I read your article, it was a hoot. I guess it’s one thing to talk the talk and another to walk the walk. Thanks for mentioning it.

And any study that includes donations to churches is inherently skewed.
Posted by: Silky
But Silky, churches do more to help children and the poor than anybody. Why is it skewed?

It’s depressing there are people who start with hatred and then work to find a target for their contempt. If these folks don’t hate Jews, Blacks, Women, Northerners, or the Red Sox, its the liberals, the Democrats, or the college educated, who earn their ire. They jump from character assasinations, to illogical theories about the inherent wrongness of the group they have decided to hate.
You can’t argue with them because they just love to hate.

Wait a second, there is absolutely nothing wrong with unconditional hatred for the Red Sox.

And wrt churches…they are famous for money disappearing. Many INVEST the money. There’s an Episcopal church near me that owns the entire city block surrounding their building. They’re in real estate! But mostly it’s because often the sentiment is bogus. They’re doing it to buy their way into heaven. Just listen to the hatred here…you really think these guys fork over their money because they’re compassionate? Right.

“Actually, it was barry’s pastor of 20 years who hated Jews, whites and hillary clinton. That man spread more hate than any political/religous figure that I have ever heard, and barry O never protested once. Instead, he just chilled in the pew with that cool look and on his face, sitting next to his chip on her shoulder wife.”
First of all, you have no idea what was said in sermons Obama sat in on. Secondly, who f’ing cares? You really think he’s an anti-semite? A racist? You’re not paying very close attention if you think that. You’re just desperate to paint him negatively. And that’s just sad. Wait for him to paint himself negatively. It worked for us and W. Didn’t take long either!

“Libs want credit for every 250.00 they give.”
It was a make a point, you inbred. Besides, it’s pretty clear to anybody reading this thread that you don’t give jack squat. In fact, I’m beginning to question whether you’re even employable, your reasoning is so whacked. So quit piggy backing on your fellow Republicans and drop the charitable donations thing. And I couldn’t care less what I get “credit” for, otherwise I wouldn’t give it. Nobody comes around and pats me on the back for it and I don’t tell anybody about it. Well, accept in this case here where it clearly does me so much good to say so. I just like knowing that I’m contributing to helping others to the extent that I can. I was raised that way. I’m fortunate. But in the scope of this conversation it becamse relevant. But leave it to you to completely miss the point in effort to further make a fool of yourself.

“silky: if it weren’t for churches of all faiths and all volunteers(conservatives and libs and middle) this country would be a mess. I know the rosie is a big givers and is mad at other celebs for not giving. She is due credit for that .”
I figured it out. You’re a child. And churches are fine, but I’m just saying that the figure about Republicans donating more, in spite of having less, has to do with a select few charity uber-wealthy people and churches hustling people (for good cause, by and large) into thinking they can buy their way into heaven.

Libs want credit for every 250.00 they give. Posted by: chaos
LMFAO!!

BHO I have an electic bill of $235.00. Will you send me the money form Hawaii so I won’t be cold???

who cares where Emanuel and Obama spend the holidays? it’s none of anybody’s business. it doesn’t mean anything. but you can hear the little conspiracy- theory wheels squeeking away mightily. i would love to go to africa for the holidays. but, hey…i’m not a hater.

Amy and Paul Wall
Get off you freakin high horses. I went to grad school and studied in London, i ain’t no hick.
If anything, my education has shown me the dangers of what teachers with agendas can do. Mizzou, for example, is highly regarded for its journalism program. The teachers there were some of the biggest anti-American/anti-capitalism snobs that I have ever seen (next to obama’s pastor, rev racist, of course).
We would supposed to be having class and I can remember on many occasions the professor discussing where the next anti-war rally would be, or how stupid George Bush was. The kids there just ate it up, and guess what, they all grow up to write for the main stream media!

Tell em’, R Barley!! Stinking libs! The reason our Country has usually prospered is because , thank God, we haven’t had to tend to too many big government libs!We’ve had more conservatives as presidents.People will see what they’ve worsened in another year or so.

Tino—don’t forget President Bush had a litle problem with substances before. Obama was honest when asked a question. he’s not a drug user and you know this. this is the kind of shallow yet viscious hate one sees from the (far) right.

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I’m with Jesse James!! Libs aren’t welcome in my hood!! They tried to destroy the Country. But they won’t succeed.They are like Ayers & his bunch, cowardly planting bombs to hurt people.We need to take him to Pakistan & give him & his wife a pair of pajamas!!

“Just think of what impressionable black youths must have thought when they heard their pastor, someone endorsed by the IL sentaor, say America created the AIDS virus to kill them??”
All six of them? They probably thought…Heyzeus H. Christo! That’s one crazy negro!

“I’m with Jesse James!! Libs aren’t welcome in my hood!!”
Lol. Oh, yeah? Where’s that?

Paul
Barry sought out a radical father figure and he found what he was looking for in rev racist. Just as barry said in his book “I sought out the marxist professors in college”, he sought out the nutjobs in America after college.
That fact, along with his wife’s famous comments, and his attendance at ayers house several times (that we know of) solidifies to me that he is racist and anti-American.
Do I think the obamas sit at home with their kids and throw darts at whitey, probably not, but do I think their views of this country are FAR more radical/dangerous then they will ever admit- absofreakinglutely.

Re:Paul Wall
What’s up , Paul? Hit a little guilt nerve or something? You must be one of the ” brainless ones ” that voted for Obama.

He’s racist, huh? You realize the woman who raised him and was the most influential person in his life was white, right? He went to Harvard. Harvard’s not exactly a place known for it’s anti-white movement.

Silky,
you aren’t referring to barry’s racist white grandmother that he threw under the bus last year are you? I think it’s the same bus that dragged rev racist around for awhile.

Actually I know nothing about Mississippi, I was born & raised in the great broke state of California.Thanks to the liberals!!

“It’s pretty apparent to most of us that Obama is what he is, highly intelligent, self disciplined, and on track to be a competent leader”
Thank God you didn’t live in san francisco during the 70′s, you just might have been equally impressed with another great speaker that eventually took his followers down to Guyana for a little revival action.

SILKY YOU ARE SO SMART ACCORDING TO YOU.

GOOD LUCK GETTING THAT BLOOD PRESSURE BACK TO NORMAL SILKY. WOW YOU HAD QUITE A DAY! YOUR BOSS MUST BE EASY.
WHERE I WORK I AM THE BOSS .

blatzrox—can you make a statement or a comment that is beyond “hate liberals”…”no liberals in my hood.” i’m far from brainless. i proudly voted for Obama in the primaries, i caucused for him in texas. i gave what i could to his campaign and i’m proud of that. but it’s hard to have a conversation with someone who plays “nann-nany poo-poo.” say something of substance.

liberalsaresocialists—there has to be some common ground. i know there is a lot of hyperbole on blogs. i just can’t believe americans are so far apart. i don’t know what you think of me. you know i’m from the left, but honestly i love my country. and i don’t doubt for one moment that you love your country too. but i’m saying “my” and “your” country, but it’s the same country. i know we both feel strongly and want to be right. it’s just hard to know. i just see the world a different way. just curious about how people disagree. i know you went to graduate school and studied abroad. i did too. so how do we end up like this? i’m not trying to do group therapy on an abc blog, just curious about what you think of that. i’m sorry early about anti-intellectualism—i think on blogs especially people can so easily dehumanize the other. and that’s no good, not for conservatives or liberals.

Silky– You are an idi0t, and a thief for spending you time here while you’re supposed to be on the job.

Jeff Fish—you are one vicious, hateful racist. i hope they send you back to where you came from. after what came out of your mouth i would never trust you. don’t hold your breath on the impeachment. post your racist filth somewhere else. there are alot of conservatives on here who don’t like Obama or agree with him, honest disagreements. but this racism belongs on another site. as KanYe would say “poof-poof be gone!”