By Arnab Datta

Dec 2, 2008 8:11am

The Note, 12/02/08: Handoffs & Handouts

By Rick Klein with Arnab Datta

You don’t need a light-bulb moment for this one: Now that the national-security team is in place, it’s all about the economy again for President-elect Barack Obama.

And, oh yeah — he’s pretty much the president now, by the way.

Partly it’s the recession (finally official), partly it’s the calendar, and partly it’s the particular situation of the outgoing president.

It’s the flipside of the early appointments: Now that all the interesting jobs are filled, nothing much counts anymore other than action. And while Obama is in the unenviable position of not being in actual power for another seven weeks, he’s being pressed to act now.

(And his power will be judged — at least in part — in Georgia on Tuesday.)

If he needed proof that this is decision time, Obama and Vice-president-elect Joe Biden on Tuesday meet with a group that knows the urgency well: the nation’s governors, gathered in Philadelphia.

Meanwhile, in Washington, the automakers are submitting their plans for fiscal solvency — this time, finding new ways of delivering their messages (and themselves) to Congress.

Look for a broad tone from Obama when he has a private chat Tuesday morning with governors of both parties — a reiteration of his call for bipartisanship to meet big challenges — but no further specifics on the size of any fiscal rescue package targeted to the states, per an Obama-Biden transition aide.

But his audience (which will include Gov. Sarah Palin, R-Alaska) is already looking beyond tone, to substance.

Per ABC’s Matt Jaffe, a recovery package will be item one on the governors’ minds: "For the governors, help for their states cannot come soon enough: 20 states have already cut over $7 billion from their 2009 budgets and 30 states expect additional short-falls totaling more than $30 billion."

Says a senior Obama transition official: "The main focus is the bipartisan meeting Tuesday. . . . The president-elect genuinely wants to hear the governors’ concerns and act on that."

Get set for the pitch: "With their budgets bleeding red ink, the governors say they will argue that states are not just victims of the recession but also effective engines of economic recovery, capable of quickly delivering increased federal spending on infrastructure projects and social programs," Thomas Fitzgerald writes in the Philadelphia Inquirer.  "New Jersey’s Gov. [Jon] Corzine told reporters yesterday that the governors’ wish list could total $600 billion."

Is there anyone who doesn’t want a bailout? 

"Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who heads the National Governors Association, and Vermont Gov. James Douglas met with congressional leaders Monday to give them a preview of the association’s proposal, which seeks at least $126 billion of federal funding to help states pay for rebuilding infrastructure, expanding social programs and extending unemployment benefits," The Wall Street Journal’s Christopher Cooper and Brad Haynes report.

"When President-elect Barack Obama arrives at Philadelphia’s Independence Hall today to meet with the nation’s governors, the main question will be not whether he will deliver fast fiscal relief to the states, but how much?" Ceci Connolly writes in The Washington Post.  "As the economic downturn has swept from the housing market to financial institutions to the automobile industry, Obama has begun sketching out plans to address a recession that most experts project will be deep and long lasting. At the heart of his approach is a massive infusion of federal tax dollars."

"In a sign of the importance Obama is placing on relief to the states, the meeting with 40 current and newly elected governors will be his first trip outside Chicago since Election Day, with the exception of a brief visit to the White House," Connolly reports.

Even without a firm commitment from Obama, the governors have some important allies: "House Democrats said Monday that they would try to pass an economic recovery bill costing $400 billion to $500 billion next month as governors pressed Congress for money to build roads and bridges, provide health care to low-income people and develop alternative sources of energy," Robert Pear writes in The New York Times.

Then there’s the Big Three, facing their Tuesday deadline to submit financial plans to Congress.

"GM will offer to cut debt, combine U.S. brands and pare costs while Ford will emphasize hastening a shift to cars from trucks, people familiar with the matter said. The United Auto Workers called an emergency meeting in Detroit tomorrow to consider concessions making it less expensive to eliminate jobs, people familiar with that session said," Bloomberg’s Mike Ramsey and Jeff Green report.  "The presentations being given to Congress start a countdown to hearings on Dec. 4 and Dec. 5 and a vote on an aid package that may come next week."

"Chrysler plans to make the case that automakers can cut their costs and point to the future by forging an alliance to share fuel-efficient vehicle technologies," Kendra Marr writes in The Washington Post. “Ford will tell lawmakers that it intends to retool plants for smaller, more fuel-efficient cars as a part of its goal of becoming the fuel-efficiency leader in every vehicle category."

Will that be enough? (Will anything?)

"It was clear that when Detroit returns to Washington this week, their plans must do more than tally people they’ll fire or pencils they won’t buy — they need to win hearts and minds. And quickly," USA Today’s Sharon Silke Carty reports.

Optics matter: "Following the uproar over executives using corporate jets to ask for taxpayer money, Ford Chief Executive Officer Alan Mulally will make the 500-mile trip to hearings in Washington later this week in a Ford hybrid and may offer to take a pay cut," per the Detroit Free Press. "Spokespeople for GM and Chrysler declined to say how their executives will arrive in Washington, except to rule out a corporate jet."

"What’s the chance it won’t land in Obama’s lap? "The House and Senate leadership is inclined to give the industry the full $25 billion it seeks. But a top congressi onal aide said it is not yet clear that a bailout that large has the votes to pass both houses, let alone get the backing of President Bush," E.J. Dionne Jr. reports in his column. "Plan B would involve passing enough assistance to keep the companies solvent until President-elect Barack Obama takes office."

Monday marked probably the last day where the transition team could count on names alone for headlines.

Of his team, a new tone: "Obama’s choices signal a more pragmatic, less ideological approach to asserting American leadership in the world," per the AP’s Robert Burns. "In announcing on Monday that Clinton is his choice for secretary of state and that Gates has agreed to remain as defense secretary — with Jones as national security adviser in the White House — Obama said he has intentionally surrounded himself with ‘strong personalities and strong opinions.’ And he made clear that when push comes to shove, he will be the one to make the tough calls." 

ABC’s Jake Tapper and Matt Jaffe: "What seemed more new than the names involved, however, was the larger concept: The group drew from the camps of various political rivals Mr. Obama has faced including Secretary of Defense Robert Gates from the current president’s administration; National Security Adviser-designee Gen. Jim Jones (Ret.), a friend of Sen. John McCain’s of more than three decades; and Democratic primary opponent Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, now his nominee to become Secretary of State."

"First, he dismantled the most impregnable political juggernaut in recent memory. Then Barack Obama managed the REALLY impossible: He transformed Hillary and Bill Clinton into subordinates," Thomas M. DeFrank writes in the New York Daily News.

Even Rush Limbaugh is impressed: "A brilliant stroke by Obama," El Rushbo tells ABC’s Barbara Walters, for her "10 Most Fascinating People of 2008" special.  "You know the old phrase ‘You keep your friends close and your enemies closer?’ " Limbaugh asked. "He puts her over at secretary of state, how can she run for president in 2012? . . . Then she’s got to run against the incumbent? And be critical of him, the one who made her secretary of state?"

Bob Shrum sees the test for Hillary: "For her part, Clinton must be — and be seen to be — genuinely comfortable yielding center stage to Obama, as she did at the Democratic Convention. She will also have to foreswear a shadow political operation, including poll briefings from her strategist Mark Penn, the salient points of which would no doubt find their way into the press."

From the Clinton foundation Tuesday morning: "Former President Clinton opened the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) Asia meeting today, bringing together current and former heads of state and the region’s leading figures from business and non-profit sectors to address some of the world’s most pressing challenges."

Some lessons learned about Obama, per Politico’s Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen: "He is willing to take big risks. . . . He is very focused on governing — and prefers persuasion to force. . . . He isn’t so disdainful of the ‘Washington insiders’ after all."

But how does he sell this to the base?

"Mr. Obama has long qualified his withdrawal pledge, but in the campaign the emphasis was on his intent to end the war. Now that he is taking office in 50 days, he is calibrating his statements to leave room to maneuver, knowing that some senior military officers are wary of moving too quickly and that the defense secretary he just reappointed has cautioned about timetables," Peter Baker writes in The New York Times. "The impression left by the event at a downtown Chicago hotel ballroom was of a political leader converting to governance from electioneering."

"It is troubling that a man of such good judgment has asked Robert Gates to stay on as Secretary of Defense — and assembled a national security team of such narrow bandwidth," Katrina Vanden Heuvel writes for The Nation. "It is true that President Obama will set the policy. But this team makes it more difficult to seize the extraordinary opportunity Obama’s election has offered to reengage the world and reset America’s priorities."

The Chicago Tribune reports on the "centrist Washington insiders" now at Obama’s side: "Even as Obama emphasized his plans for a break from Bush policy, however, there were abundant reminders that the new team will struggle with familiar problems, and that there would be substantial continuity in the way they must deal with them," Paul Richter, Christi Parsons and John McCormick report.

While he’s selling new strategies: "A senior Obama aide said the incoming administration will create teams of diplomats and other civilian officials who can be quickly deployed overseas after natural disasters or political upheavals to help fragile countries get back on their feet," The Wall Street Journal’s Yochi J. Dreazen reports.

And while he’s managing new relationships: "Democrats familiar with the transition said the two have spent time over the past several weeks discussing the parameters of the job and how they would work together: Clinton received assurances that she would have the kind of access to Obama she needs, as well as the authority to pick her own team," Michael Abramowitz and Glenn Kessler report in The Washington Post.

Not coming on board: Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

"Villaraigosa said he had a ‘conversation’ with Obama in mid-November about joining the new Democratic administration but told the incoming president that he would stay in Los Angeles to focus on his reelection campaign and ongoing efforts to address the city’s financial troubles and other pressing issues," Phil Willon reports in the Los Angeles Times.

In Georgia Tuesday, a test of political sway.

Palin inserted herself in the race just enough to claim credit if Sen. Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., wins reelection, while Obama stayed just far enough away (maybe) to avoid suffering if Democrat Jim Martin doesn’t pull off the upset.

"The former University of Georgia Sigma Chi fraternity brothers face off today in a nationally watched overtime election that could tilt the balance of power in the world’s most powerful deliberative body," Jim Tharpe and Aaron Gould Sheini n report in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Palin chose the day before the election to hit the stump: "We need Saxby because we need checks and balances in Washington, and we will not have that if Saxby is not re-elected," said Palin, per ABC’s Teddy Davis. "With one party in control of the House and the Senate and the White House we need a conservative who will speak for themselves." 

No Obama visit, but if he wants to wash his hands of the race, try these details out for size: "Jim Martin, the Democrat trying for the second time in a month to unseat Republican Senator Saxby Chambliss, was standing in one of Barack Obama’s old campaign offices the other day, circled by a staff paid for with Obama’s dollars, facing a large banner bearing Obama’s image," Sasha Issenberg writes in The Boston Globe. 

Said Martin: "I have a little bit more help than I did before."

Think African-American turnout matters?

"Democrat Jim Martin staged a flurry of campaign rallies around the state, capping the day with a raucous event at the state Capitol with hip-hop stars T.I., Young Jeezy and Ludacris urging voters to return to the polls," per the AP’s Shannon McCaffrey.

Inching along, in Minnesota: "With the state Canvassing Board scheduled to meet in two weeks to finish the recount, and nearly 6,000 votes being challenged by the two campaigns, a Star Tribune tally late Monday showed that [Norm] Coleman leads by 340 votes. Coleman had challenged 188 more votes than [Al] Franken," Mike Kaszuba and Curt Brown report in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

We must be reaching the end if it’s time to entertain regrets: "I think I was unprepared for war," President Bush told ABC’s Charlie Gibson, in an interview that aired on ‘World News’ Monday.

"In other words, I didn’t campaign and say, ‘Please vote for me, I’ll be able to handle an attack,’" he said. "In other words, I didn’t anticipate war. Presidents — one of the things about the modern presidency is that the unexpected will happen."

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User Comments

Say HELLO to those tax hikes.

Posted by: Angelo | December 2, 2008, 10:27 am 10:27 am

A senior Obama aide said the new administration will create teams of diplomats and other civilian officials who can be quickly deployed overseas after natural disasters or political upheavals to help fragile countries get back on their feet. What a crazy country we live in. Pragmatic I believe is the term Obama cherishes. We criticize the heads of the BIG3 for flying into Washington to ask for handouts of taxpayer dollars, yet even as America protests he makes plans to fly diplomats and civilians all over the world delivering bags full of taxpayer money to non citizens. If that’s a pragmatic approach I’d rather be dumber than dirt when it comes to my money management.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | December 2, 2008, 10:33 am 10:33 am

I liked the strong, elaborated, wry reporting and writing of the previous Note.

Posted by: Drew | December 2, 2008, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Angelo, get your head out of the sand.how do you expect to pay for this 11 trillion dollar debt that this administration created???? All these bailouts??? Now the recession, it took the so called experts a year to find this out. The average citizen knew this a year ago

Posted by: BSKI | December 2, 2008, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Today the state governors are meeting in Washington to ask for handouts. The not yet President elect believes there will be a need to shift more responsibility to the federal government,away from the states to accomplish needed infrastructure repairs and to meet state budget obligations. Governor Randel says the funding will create jobs, good jobs that can’t be outsourced. Here we go building the federal government and taking control away from the states. More government jobs= bigger national budget. We’re going in the wrong direction already and the watch hasn’t even changed yet.Looks like $126 billion is already targeted for immediate infrastructure repairs. The governors are expected to ask for another $400-500 billion. Our democratic congress throws trillions around as if we actually have money in reserve. Who’s going to foot the bill? The taxpayers. More pragmatism at work.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | December 2, 2008, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Give em hell Monroe.

Posted by: BikernAz | December 2, 2008, 10:58 am 10:58 am

This new Note is a PIA to print.

Posted by: Pete Miller, Dublin, OH | December 2, 2008, 11:00 am 11:00 am

The printing issue should be solved — there’s a little button at the top that gives you a printer-friendly option.
– Rick Klein

Posted by: Rick Klein | December 2, 2008, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Obama says HE will have the last word in discussions HOWEVER, he also said “after I discuss it with my advisors” – who will, in fact, make the final decisions but Obama will take credit for it!!! No change as far as I’m concerned.

Posted by: jill | December 2, 2008, 11:25 am 11:25 am

Any debt racked up by George Bush can be greatly linked to the clinton era when banks WERE FORCED TO GIVE PEOPLE LOANS THEY COULD NEVER AFFORD.
And guess what the robin hood liberals (barney frank, chris dodd, chuck schumer, ACORN, Barry O, nancy pelosi) said to any republican who stood in the way of wiping away lending standards, credit history, proof of prolonged employment as forms of ability to pay…….. you conservatives don’t like poor people! This mentality adopted by socialist liberals has literally almost broken our capitalist society.
The iraq war has cost .5 a trillion dollars and was necessary to overthrow a man who murdered, tortured, terrorized, AND used chemical weapons AGAINST HIS OWN PEOPLE while the whole time giving the impotent United nations the middle-finger.
George Bush has been trampled on by the obamamania media and has kept this country safe nearly 8 years but somehow he is just an idiot??

Posted by: dave | December 2, 2008, 11:37 am 11:37 am

So what is considered wealthy by barry O these days?? I certainly would consider him wealthy since he just purchased michelle a $30,000.00 ring.
Are you rich if you make $250,000 (as barry said throughout the beginning and middle of his campaign), or is it $200,000 (as he said throughout the end of his campaign) or $150,000 (as biden said AFTER THE CAMPAIGN)??
WHICH IS IT??
I want biden to clarify at what level of income does the gov’t expect people to be “more patriotic and pay higher taxes”? Even though the answer would be coming from a man who has earned $2,590,000 in the last 10 years and given $3,000 to charity (.001% of his total income)- NOW THAT IS WHAT I CALL PATRIOTIC!

Posted by: dave | December 2, 2008, 11:49 am 11:49 am

dave
You have the right-wing noise machine’s talking points and buzzwords down really well. I hve never seen so many crammed into so few paragraphs. But you don’t really expect anyone to keep believing that stuff, do you? (like all debt is the Democrats’ fault because they tried to help people too much!)

Posted by: jock59801 | December 2, 2008, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Jock; In the end the only ones who got help (as always) were the Clinton cronies at Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and on Wall Street. The poor people lost the homes they could suddenly afford and now have a bad debt record that will follow them for the rest of their lives. A home foreclosure or auto repo is a long term serious credit blem. But keep on voting for the Democrats ’cause they are dedicated to helping you. No, really. This time they mean it. sic

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | December 2, 2008, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

jock59801
Spit the kool-aid out now! Democrats would rather send $500,000,000,000.00 annually out of our borders to countries that HATE the USA (which is why liberals like them) then drill here.
Also, they FORCED banks to give risky loans to people who could NEVER PAY THEM BACK. Then they wonder why America is losing its competitive edge in the world??
All the while, the liberal media is blaming bush for everthing wrong in the western hemisphere because he is an “idiot”.
If these are too many thoughts for you to process I’m sorry. to me it’s very simple.

Posted by: dave | December 2, 2008, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

Dave come on the reason we are in this mess is because of Bush he has been in power for the last 8 years how can you say this isn’t his fault he is the president and has hurt so many people financially. He and his dad are in the oil business they don’t have to worry about retirement. My mom lost 30,000 dollars because of this recession he has caused she is 81 years old maybe the US government should bail out the taxpayors because its them that have worked there butts off and are losing big time. I’m 47 years young and I feel for the elderly again put the blame were its suppose to be. EJ

Posted by: Ej | December 2, 2008, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

EJ : Please explain how Bush caused this recession? There are 3 primary factors involved. 1) Democrats pushing banks to make loans to people who weren’t likely to pay them back. 2) Shady packaging of debt by Wall Street. 3) People buying houses they couldn’t afford.
Bush is not responsible for any of that. Get off the kool-aid and think for yourself.

Posted by: howwouldiknow | December 2, 2008, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

EJ
Do some research and look up what the worst president in HISTORY (jimmy carter) came up with, something called the COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT.
After that ingenious idea, the last 20 years have been filled with democrat-controlled congress FORCING banks to reduce/erase their lending standards under the banner of making everything “fair”.
Liberals simply don’t like America. In America, our gov’t guarantees us the “pursuit of happiness”. Liberals are always trying to change America into the goverment “guarunteeing happiness”- which is why your mom lost 30,000.
Have you seen or been to any socialist, communist countries recently? It is nothing more than HUGE gov’ts, HUGE taxes, and wealthy elites at the top telling everyone else how to live. You can KEEP THE CHANGE BO.

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | December 2, 2008, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Dave: My poor uninformed friend. The following is a cut and paste from a New York Times Financial article printed in 1999 regarding the expansion of Fannie Mae. I’m not posting the entire article, just one paragraph. I quote. (“In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies HAVE BEEN PRESSING Fannie Mae to HELP THEM make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates — anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.”) end quote. It’s now unfortunate that many of these same banks who went BEGGING to Fannie Mae are now the one’s before Congress hoping for a rescue from the business THEY WANTED. There,s way more too it than this one paragraph, obviously, but you’re not going to hear or find the facts by listening to the drug addict Limbaugh and neo-nazi Hannity. Whom you’ve obviously been listening to. The funniest part is, all you people who daily drink the right wing kool-aid dished out on a right wing news network owned by a liberal leaning business mogul, and his even more liberal son, who exploit you every day as they laugh all the way to their bank. The fact remains, the damage has been done, in more than one area effecting the economy as well as national security and you either learn from the mistakes and grab ahold of the lifeline that has been tossed to you, or you continue to sink in the morass that surrounds you.

Posted by: devilkev | December 2, 2008, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Thank you for the print option. However, Blog format does not allow one to return to the original analysis and access other referenced materials later in the day. Not all have the luxury of reading the entire Note at once & also be in an environment to easily access or print referenced stories for future consumption. Please leave the entire analysis with links available somewhere.

Posted by: ELi SANCHEZ | December 2, 2008, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

devilkev
Wow, I don’t where to begin. But for starters, please give me one example of hannity or limbaugh saying something racist or nazi-like. Their entire careers are over the radio so it can’t be too hard to find if it exists. You have obviously been drinking the far-left kool-aid which is easy to do for those who don’t like to think for themselves. By the way, limbaugh and hannity are the party of Lincoln and MLK, yours is the party of George Wallace (southern segregationist), Johnson(big racist), jefferson (bigger racist) and Barry O the socialist (you can keep the change)
For every article you cut and paste that attempts to downplay the robin hood liberals’ involvement in this crisis, i will show you 10 that proves barney frank, chris dodd, chuck schumer, nancy pelosi harry reid, acorn, barry o and the rest of the socialist liberals are the reason this country has nearly been crippled.

Posted by: dave | December 2, 2008, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

dave
Simple answers are not always correct. Rarely, when the economy is the subject. Anyone, who cherry-picks one law, or one error, as the “cause of everything,” is just fooling themselves.
And take this “liberals hate America” bullsht and cram it up your ###. It is false. It is slander. And it is stupid.

Posted by: jock59801 | December 2, 2008, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

jockstrap
Let’s look at some of the liberals who just recently spoken bad about America because they DON’T like it.(I could win this argument in court)
Michelle Obama
“I have never been proud of my country in my life” only to clarirfy “I have never been proud of my country in my adult life” (that makes it so much better)
Micheal Moore
“America is an evil empire”
“We are seeing the end of capitalism and i say good riddance”
Bill Ayers and the weather underground movement
“America is an evil stain on the face of history”(Obama’s dinnner companions, neighbors and hosted BO’s political coming out party)
rev wright(the man the obama’s took their children to listen to….
“America is the worst terrorist nation in the world”
“America created the AIDS virus”
“America is run by greedy rich white folk”
Sean Penn,
Danny Glover,
Susan Sarandon,
Tim Robbins a
ll love hugo chavez and probably send him care post-cards once a month.
Cindy Sheehan
“The 9/11 bombers were freedom fighters”
“Bush is the worst terrorist in the world”
Sen. Ben Tillman (D., S.C.), 1906
Chairman, Committee on Naval Affairs, 1913-19
“Republicanism means Negro equality, while the Democratic Party means that the white man is supreme. That is why we Southerners are all Democrats.”
I would be here all day if i kept going

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | December 2, 2008, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm

dave et al.
The US economy is very complicated and it would take an unprecedented amount of coordination for any one party to screw it up! There’s plenty of blame to go around including democrats, republicans, Greenspan, uncreditworthy home buyers, and the banks. The present reality is the the damage is aleady done and all the back-n-forth bickering about who’s at fault is certainly not going to help. Like it or not, BO will soon be our president and he needs all our support. As a so-called “evil liberal,” I didn’t vote for Bush but I always wanted him to succeed. I just hope the right wing pundits can somehow do the same, but maybe I’m being too optimistic.

Posted by: alan | December 2, 2008, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm

Well Obama? What are you going to do about the economy? Its time to start moving on this pal! So far we haven’t heard anything about what you’re going to do about this mess! Where are the promises, and what about “The Big Change”? We don’t hear any strategies or plans!!!

Posted by: brannigon1 | December 2, 2008, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

dave: My friend. Love to debate with you, however, I must leave for work. You could start with the #1 website I use for my information. It’s called- http://www.senate.gov. , another is http://www.thomas.loc.com. If you’re not familiar with those, they are respectfully the United States Senate and Library of Congress website. You will find the actual floor debate, word for word. As far as the responsibility of the banking fiasco, start with the Gramm-Leach-Bliley deregulation act. You’ll find all the words, including the amendment introduced by Phil Gramm, The Commodities Futures Modernization Act,on the day the vote was taken, day before Christmas recess in 1999, with no chance to be run through a committee and tacked onto the Omnibus “must pass” budget bill. This surprise bill tacked on by Gramm had been considered dead. Again here’s a quick cut and paste from one of my archived files regarding the bill most responsible as the beginning for today’s fiasco. — “(In 1999, Gramm pushed through a historic banking deregulation bill that decimated Depression-era firewalls between commercial banks, investment banks, insurance companies, and securities firms—setting off a wave of merger mania.
But Gramm’s most cunning coup on behalf of his friends in the financial services industry—friends who gave him millions over his 24-year congressional career—came on December 15, 2000. It was an especially tense time in Washington. Only two days earlier, the Supreme Court had issued its decision on Bush v. Gore. President Bill Clinton and the Republican-controlled Congress were locked in a budget showdown. It was the perfect moment for a wily senator to game the system. As Congress and the White House were hurriedly hammering out a $384-billion omnibus spending bill, Gramm slipped in a 262-page measure called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. Written with the help of financial industry lobbyists and cosponsored by Senator Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), the chairman of the agriculture committee, the measure had been considered dead—even by Gramm. Few lawmakers had either the opportunity or inclination to read the version of the bill Gramm inserted. “Nobody in either chamber had any knowledge of what was going on or what was in it,” says a congressional aide familiar with the bill’s history.
It’s not exactly like Gramm hid his handiwork—far from it. The balding and bespectacled Texan strode onto the Senate floor to hail the act’s inclusion into the must-pass budget package. But only an expert, or a lobbyist, could have followed what Gramm was saying. The act, he declared, would ensure that neither the sec nor the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (cftc) got into the business of regulating newfangled financial products called swaps—and would thus “protect financial institutions from overregulation” and “position our financial services industries to be world leaders into the new century.)”
I would love to post the words from the Senate debate, but it’s way too long for me to pull up and post now. If you care to know the facts, look it up. As far as Hannity goes, just look up Hal Turner. Limbaugh speaks for himself as does his record. If you can post a website that can refute the word for word dialog from the U.S. Senate as recorded in the Library of Congress, please do so. I’d love to read it.

Posted by: devilkev | December 2, 2008, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Alan
I never said liberals were evil, they are just wrong about nearly everything with regard to ecomonic and foreign policy.

Posted by: dave | December 2, 2008, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Housing Crisis: Fannie, Freddie and Democrats
The Democrats in Congress believe no one can own a home without government involvement. They believe everybody, whether they can afford it or not, should own a home.
The Democrats used two quasi government agencies to buy up fraudulent mortgages to create a market for more fraud. This started in 1977, under the Carter administration—Carter has lived his life as a guilty party to slavery. Jimmie used his presidency to beg forgiveness, with your money and the dignity of millions.
The Free Market Works. Government Destroys. That is the lesson from the last 30 years. The destruction of the US economy was started by the policies of Carter—and the Democrats refused to fix the problem when confronted with the evidence of the impeding crisis. Of course Obama lies about it—he blames McCain, when it was McCain who wanted to stop the bigotry and economic disaster of the Democrat/Obama policies. What do you expect—Obama knows he can never tell the truth.
Pass this along, let your friends understand how we got into this mess and who is responsible.
When Fannie And Freddie Opened The Floodgates Misdiagnosing the causes of the crisis could lead both to regulatory overkill and to more reckless risk taking.
by Stuart Taylor, National Journal, 10/18/08
President Bush, his Securities and Exchange Commission appointees, other free-enterprise dogmatists who have stood in the way of regulating risky and opaque financial manipulations, and greedy Wall Streeters deserve the blame heaped on them for the financial meltdown that has so severely shaken America.
But the pretense of many Democrats that this crisis is altogether a Republican creation is simplistic and dangerous.
It is simplistic because Democrats have been a big part of the problem, in part by supporting governmental distortions of the marketplace through mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, whose reckless lending practices necessitated a $200 billion government rescue last month. It is dangerous because misdiagnosing the causes of the crisis could lead both to regulatory overkill and to more reckless risk taking by Fannie, Freddie, or newly created government-sponsored enterprises.
Fannie and Freddie aside, it’s worth pointing out that many, if not most, of those greedy Wall Street barons are Democrats. And that the securities and investment industry has given more money to Democrats than to Republicans in this election cycle. And that opposing regulation of risky new financial practices by private investment banks and others has been a bipartisan enterprise, engaged in by the Clinton and Bush administrations alike.
But the roles of Fannie and Freddie are my focus here. Powerful Democratic (and some Republican) advocates of affordable housing, including Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd, D-Conn.; Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.; and House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., have been the GSEs’ most potent and ardent champions in recent years. Meanwhile, the agencies and their employees have orchestrated a gigantic lobbying effort (costing more than $174 million between 1998 and 2008). They have also made campaign contributions of more than $14.6 million between the 2000 and 2008 election cycles, with some of the largest going to Dodd and Barack Obama.
A leading illustration of this Democrat-GSE symbiosis came in summer 2005. The Senate Banking Committee adopted a bill to impose tighter regulation on Fannie and Freddie, with all Republicans voting for it. But the Democrats voted against it in committee and killed it on the floor.
Also in 2005, Fannie and Freddie began buying vast amounts of subprime and “alt-A” mortgages with, in many cases, virtually no down payments, that had been taken out by people with low credit scores and low incomes relative to their monthly payments. To finance more and more affordable housing, as leading Democrats, and some Republicans, had urged, the GSEs dramatically lowered their traditional underwriting standards.
Between 2005 and 2007, Fannie and Freddie “sold out the taxpayers” by financing almost $1 trillion in such highly risky mortgages, according to “The Last Trillion Dollar Commitment: The Destruction of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,” a carefully researched essay posted on the conservative American Enterprise Institute’s website by Peter Wallison of AEI and Charles Calomiris of Columbia Business School.
They base their trillion-dollar figure, which is much higher than most published estimates, on detailed analysis of what they call “accounting practices that made it difficult to detect the size of those exposures.”
Fannie and Freddie appear to have played a major role in causing the current crisis, in part because their quasi-governmental status violated basic principles of a healthy free enterprise system by allowing them to privatize profit while socializing risk. That is, their special privileges as GSEs — created decades ago to promote homeownership by buying mortgages from banks, which could then use the cash to make more loans — enabled them to lend at high rates to reap enormous profits for their private stockholders and executives and to borrow at low rates based on the government’s implicit promise to rescue them from any failure, as it has now done.
Unbeknownst to the investment banks, the experts at Fannie and Freddie knew very well that their bosses were taking reckless risks.
Many conservatives have gone so far as to blame Fannie, Freddie, and their Democratic sponsors for the entire meltdown. Some (not including Wallison and Calomiris) also blame the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, which forced banks to lend and invest more in minority and low-income areas.
This accusation has spurred furious rebuttals by Democrats and their media friends. Some have been well reasoned. Some — especially a July 14 column by New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, who was awarded the Nobel Prize in economics this week — have been flat-out incorrect.
As Wallison and Calomiris demonstrate, Krugman was egregiously wrong in writing that “Fannie and Freddie had nothing to do with the explosion of high-risk lending.” He was wrong again in stating that “they didn’t do any subprime lending, because they can’t … by law.” He was further wrong in writing that the GSEs were “tightly regulated with regard to the risks they can take.”
Others in the don’t-blame-Fannie-and-Freddie camp reasonably point out that private Wall Street investment banks and others financed even more of the $3 trillion in substandard mortgages than Fannie and Freddie did, and that these investment banks and many of the mortgage lenders who made (and then sold) the loans were not covered by the Community Reinvestment Act.
Wallison agrees that the 31-year-old law does not appear to have been a major cause of the current crisis. He also notes that although the Clinton administration pushed the GSEs to finance more affordable housing by purchasing subprime mortgages, it was not until 2005 that the GSEs began financing risky loans in huge amounts.
Why did Fannie and Freddie dive into the subprime mortgage market? And were their practices just one facet — or the most important cause — of the crisis? The questions are related and the answers debatable.
Freddie and then Fannie had been ravaged in 2003 and 2004 by accounting scandals that led to the departures of top executives, including Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines, a former Clinton administration official who had collected $90 million in compensation from 1998 through 2004. The scandals brought warnings from Alan Greenspan, then the powerful chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, that the government should restrain the mortgage giants’ growth. Meanwhile, three Fed economists published a study casting doubt on whether Fannie and Freddie had much effect on mortgage interest rates. All of this put the two agencies on the defensive in Congress.
By the time Daniel Mudd succeeded Raines in 2004, according to an in-depth New York Times article on October 5 by Charles Duhigg, “his company was under siege. Competitors were snatching lucrative parts of its business. Congress was demanding that Mr. Mudd help steer more loans to low-income borrowers. Lenders were threatening to sell directly to Wall Street unless Fannie bought a bigger chunk of their riskiest loans.
“So Mr. Mudd made a fateful choice,” Duhigg wrote. “Disregarding warnings from his managers that lenders were making too many loans that would never be repaid, he steered Fannie into more-treacherous corners of the mortgage market, according to executives.
“For a time, that decision proved profitable. In the end, it nearly destroyed the company and threatened to drag down the housing market and the economy.”
(So much for Krugman’s analysis.)
Duhigg added, “The ripple effect of Fannie’s plunge into riskier lending was profound. Fannie’s stamp of approval made shunned borrowers and complex loans more acceptable to other lenders, particularly small and less sophisticated banks.” The banks had little incentive to avoid risky loans as long as they could sell them to the GSEs and others long before any defaults.
Duhigg also implies, however, that Fannie and Freddie joined the junk-mortgage binge, rather than led it, to avoid losing business to private companies such as Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, and Goldman Sachs. Other analysts plausibly argue that what started the ball rolling was an August 2004 decision by the big bond-rating agencies, Moody’s and Standard & Poor’s, to loosen their guidelines for rating mortgage-backed securities.
Wallison and Calomiris disagree. “The most plausible explanation for the sudden adoption of this disastrous course [by Fannie and Freddie] is their desire to continue to retain the support of Congress after their accounting scandals in 2003 and 2004,” they argue. In an October 15 Wall Street Journal op-ed, Wallison adds, without qualification, that this was “the source of the financial crisis we are wrestling with today.”
But why would investment banks take foolish risks with their own money, as well as that of investors, just because Fannie and Freddie were doing so? In an interview, Wallison theorizes that the companies wrongly assumed that these must be sound investments because the leading experts on the mortgage market — Fannie and Freddie, with their vast databases and sophisticated computer programs — thought so. But unbeknownst to the investment banks, the experts at Fannie and Freddie knew very well that their bosses were taking reckless risks.
Perhaps a congressional investigation will someday sort out the extent to which Congress itself — by pressuring Fannie and Freddie to take such risks — brought about the current crisis.

Posted by: dave | December 2, 2008, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

Yes, the original Democrats were the white racists of a post-reconstructionist South. Black people who had the right to vote and declare their party (usually not in the South) were Republicans in honor of Lincoln until the FDR presidency. The Dixiecrats were Southern (and more than a few Northern) Democrats who opposed integration, initially in the Armed Forces,but also in the schools and in American life in general.
Unfortunately, in the last half of the 20th century, Republican became a nasty word to many Black people, as the Republican party began to court and encourage the nasty right-wing racists who were floating around up for grabs after the Dixie Democrat (Johnson) signed the Civil Rights acts in 1964.

Posted by: NatFrankie | December 2, 2008, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

liberalshateAmerica
“jockstrap?” This is how you want to begin your arguments? With 10-year-old potty insults? (and then claim it is those “liberals” who are hateful?
Comgratulations. You picked out several liberals who have said things you don’t like. Therefore, “all liberals hate America.” Huh?
1906? Ben Tillman was a conservative.
Cindy Sheehan is a nut. Liberals were extremely dismissive of her (after this became apparent).
Do you claim that America is NOT run by greedy rich white folk (as an over-generalization)?

Posted by: jock59801 | December 2, 2008, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

Dave
If I wanted to read your term paper, I would have asked for it.

Posted by: NatFrankie | December 2, 2008, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm

jock59801
jockstrap was a rebuttal to your “cram it up my ###” comment.
But you are right, name-calling was way too liberal of me to do and I apologize.

Posted by: liberalshateAmerica | December 2, 2008, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm

Dave’s term paper is over four pages, over 1700 words and over 9000 characters. My thought is that a blog should be concise and to the point if the author wants anyone to read it.

Posted by: DaveM | December 2, 2008, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

Especially when the author is spewing rhetoric crap…

Posted by: DaveM | December 2, 2008, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

DaveM
so exposing democrats for their HUGE part in the housing crisis is now called “spewing rhetoric crap”..
How about calling it just “truthful rhetoric”.

Posted by: dave | December 2, 2008, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

I feel if Republicans or Democrats are staying in an ideological/partisan mind set during these times (2 wars /recession), they focus not on what is right for America or its citizens, but their own policies preparing for senate, governor,congressional, and presidential elections every 2-4 years. Also, when you refer to history to push blame without learning from it or creating a solution for now or the future; its just rhetoric nothing we can really use substantively to fix or stabilize our situation.
I feel confident in the new administration not because Democrats control the Congress/Senate or that Prez-elect Obama was elected; I am confident because of the new presidents vision and his ability to place persons in his cabinet that reflect competence, intelligence, and experience not just yes people. I will give everyone the benefit of the doubt until they fail (badly). Republicans must be willing to work with Democrats to fix our current situation; they should not continue the same old-school political low-balling that has given politics a bad name and has kept them in control so long. I am a Constitutionalists but mostly lean conservatively, but I understand during times of crisis we must work together as one nation. If we ask citizens to do this, our politicians should lead by example.

Posted by: chris | December 2, 2008, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

I just hope Obama’s administration keep thier promise.Leave Veteran’s & Veteran Affairs when it comes to cutbacks.It seems we are the first one to get cut in the past administrations.Just think we might not be here if we didn’t show the world that we had the best Arm Service’s.

Posted by: Mark Ansley | December 3, 2008, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Obama is not yet in office but he is already spreading the wealth around our wealth to thos ewho should not be getting anything.Now is the time that those who were STUPID enough to vote for Obama will see exactly what they are going to get and what they deserve for putting a SOCIALIST Wannabe in the White house.GOD I pray will help those SMART enough not to vote for Obama while he is living at the White House.

Posted by: Jesse Tomblin | December 3, 2008, 9:41 am 9:41 am

To Chrysler: DO NOT MERGE WITH GM!. If GM is asking for help or hand outs as someone might put it then they are in the same “boat” that you are in. Logic is if you were to merge and they had to cut back, you would be the first “cutback”. If Iwere Chrysler, I would down size and regroup. Look at the marketers: people in the 60′s and the young folk and go from there.

Posted by: JM - OPINION | December 3, 2008, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Jock59801; Good morning and merry Christmas. Following up on your heated discussion from yesterday. Liberals in general don’t hate America, with the exception of some extremists who openly condemn our nation. The major difference between liberals and conservatives is the vision they have for America, their perception of what is right and wrong, what they think the government is responsible for. Everyone wants freedom but how is freedom defined? It means different things to different people. My observation is that freedom which carries a heavy weight of personal responsibility and accountability has been interpreted to mean we can do whatever we want to do. The concept of right and wrong is defined for us all in the laws of our land. These laws restrict our freedom and should be minimized in my opinion. However, rather than adhering to the law many seem to make a game of finding ways to get around the laws or to use the laws to their advantage so the laws are evertightening to hedge against the corrupt nature of man. More laws mean more administration which means bigger government and bigger government budgets which necessitate higher taxes. Unfair taxes are the factor that brought about both the American Revolution and the War Between The States. So how big should our government be? My opinion is that the government should never grow beyond whatever level of financial commitment it can comfortably afford without overstressing the taxpayers. Our government is obviously already overstressed financially even as commitments are being made to increase the dependence for government support in our personal lives through increased benefits which means higher taxes for an already financially overburdened workforce.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | December 3, 2008, 10:59 am 10:59 am

liberalshateamerica and monroe. Please get off the news blogs and post on a site called SodaHead. They’ed LOVE you over there. I am a liberal and FYI, we DO NOT hate America, just dangerous extremists-left OR right. Can there EVER be PEACE btwn people? If 1/4 of the time fighting, warring and bickering was spent on something CONSTRUCTIVE, imagine what a wonderful place the world COULD be?

Posted by: ummagumma | December 3, 2008, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm

P.S. Thank you Chris for a post with insight and a little faith. It is people like you who at least are willing to give PE Obama and the incoming Administration a CHANCE. This country AND the world is facing the biggest challenges we’ve ever known and “United we Stand,Divided we Fall”.
If I knew where you are, I’d shake your hand.
In the midst of all the hate-mongering, I at last can smile a little!!!

Posted by: ummagumma | December 3, 2008, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

BTW Dave, why don’t you join the other 2 and defect to SodaHead too? If I hear the words Socialist, Kool-Aid and all your other tired phrases bashing us because we vote Democrat, I think I’ll throw up!!!
People like you are just SO depressing and hateful. The minute someone posts something upbeat about the incoming PE, they’re a brain-washed Kool-Aid drinker, stupid, Socialst, yada-yada-yada. If you want to keep “spreading the hate”, surf the internet and you’ll find PLENTY of blogs to trash the liberal base of your own free will complete with allowing curse words and death threats.
Please go to those sites so the NEWS blogs can stay relatively civil? Bye now!!!! Happy Holidays!!!!!!

Posted by: ummagumma | December 3, 2008, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm

Dave,
This in response to your request for an example of hannity or limbaugh saying something racist or nazi-like.
Just a few, selected Great moments of Limbaugh….
“The Clintons have a cat, but their nanny has a dog,” during a tirade against the Democratic National Convention, 8/28/96. Limbaugh had referred to Chelsea Clinton as the “White House dog” in 1993. Apparently, he liked the remark so much he decided to repeat it.
“… If you want to know what America used to be — and a lot of people wish it still were — then you listen to Strom Thurmond,” 9/1/93.
Limbaugh once told an African-American caller to “take that bone out of your nose.”
“The NAACP should have riot rehearsals,” he announced on another occasion. “They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.” When Sen. Carol Moseley-Braun’s name was mentioned on his program, Limbaugh played the theme song, “Movin’ On Up,” from the 1970s black sitcom, The Jeffersons.
“Have you ever noticed how all newspaper composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?” he once asked listeners.

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