Cheney to Obama: Rethink Tossing Terror Policies

yep the next big one Obama and Panetta owns, no ifs and or buts…If we are hit again then Obama is to blame for his weak appointment to the Cia..and the Media will scramble to protect Obama adn his extremely poor judgement

If we get hit again it will be by one of the many terrorists created by the Bush administration’s reckless foreign policy, so get off your soapbox.

Go into crawl into some hole Mr.Cheney…..we dont need your suggestions any more.

Cheney is wiseman,we missed you very much, Vice president.Thank for your “loving and dedication” to our country.May God bless you.

james–Please let me know how the Patriot Act changed your life so dramatically.
Also, those guys we “kidnapped” would as soon slit your, or my, throat as say thank you for your support. I’d pay to see you try and give one of them a hug.

The country can still be safe after tossing out the warrantless wiretapping and unethical torture especially waterboarding.

Thank President Bush ,Vice president Cheney and all current administration. We missed you, American people will reconize your hard works for our country in the last 8 years,although some people with “narrow mind” hated you because you are the person who kept the promise and leaded us not by polls but by principals and convictions.again, thanks all of you and your hard works.May God bless you and all American.

I do not think anyone needs the advice of a person in my opinion is war criminal.
Cheney apparently thinks he is a god or dictator and has grandoise ideas that what he says should be the law. The law should prosecute him for his actions as our vice president.
Cheney is one of reasons and Bush is the other that most of the nations of the world think we are no better than the USSR when they were trying to take over the world. Bush and Cheney has not given any nation a reason to believe otherwise.
They are the worst pair that has ever ruled this nation and I firmly believe history will bear that out.

Obama does not need to take any advice from Cheney. Look at the damage him and Bush have done to this country. Also recall he is the chickenhawk… When Cheney was asked to go to war he got 5 different diferments. What a COWARD!!!
All NEOCONS should crawl under a rock and never show their cowardly faces again

We have real enemies and real dangers to our freedom and our security. They pose one source of threats.
The other source of threats is that in trying to protect ourselves, we destroy our freedom in the name of protecting our security. The Bush Administration, including VP Cheney, seems clueless about this.
Even with all that in mind, I am very apprehensive about the Inauguration.

Yeah, I’m sure that if there’s another attack it will be only because we didn’t torture someone long enough.

The neo cons who hate the Constitution of the United States are sure out in force tonight cheering for their maximum leadee, Vice-President Richard Cheney. Cheney

WHAT’S THE BIG SECRET, CHENEY??? Because NOBODY but you thinks we’re in THAT much trouble that we have to give up most of our liberties to save us from ‘evil’. What’s this big secret that you are protecting us from? What’s this big threat that we all face, that only you and a few others get to know about?

Human Rights should matter if only because someday, dependent on what happens in this world, it may be you or one of your loved ones they come for…..
IF we tortue someone without proof of wrong doing but based only on the color of their skin or nationality? It is wrong and against the Geneva Convention that this country agreed to follow. We failed under Cheney’s watch and with his approval.
At this point I am not certain if I should be more afraid of my own governement than terrorist.

Because NOBODY but you thinks we’re in THAT much trouble that we have to give up most of our liberties to save us from ‘evil’.–eric
Wht are the liberties that you have given up? I have not noticed a single change in my day to day life since 9/11. NOT A ONE.
You Cheney bashers seem to think that the enemy plays by civilized rules. Maybe when the next terrorist attack hits America, and it will under the rookie BHO, your loved ones are the victimes. What will you say then?

“we have to give up most of our liberties to save us from ‘evil’. ‘
Tell us what liberties you have had to give up in the past 8 years.

Bush and Cheney in tandem with their minions are the sole creator of what happened in America. Any other excuses are just that. They are evil incarnate:
http://www.ronnierayjenkins.com/topics/deathinappalachia/Empty_Chairs/

ronnieray–For some reason I don’t think your source is trustworthy. Maybe because it’s your blog, numbnuts.

Bush and Chenny keot America safe for 8 years….. We’ll see how Obama does??

Let’s remember that Cheney – like his former boss Nixon – thinks the President is above the law and above the Constitution. His views on security policies reflect that view. Cheney is an extremely insecure and arrogant individual who thinks that he and he alone has the right answer on myriad issues – especially as related to “security” and controlling the behavior of others.
But do not forget that Cheney’s “real” employer has moved to Dubai. That says more about Cheney’s loyalties than most dare to consider.

The so-called “Extraordinary Rendition” program, which snatched suspected terrorists and delivered them to third countries for interrogation, was begun under the Clinton Administration according to former CIA officers Richard Clarke and Michael Scheuer. In fact it was at the urging of VP Al Gore that Clinton signed Presidential Directive PDD 39 on June 21, 1995 which formerly established the policy…hmmm?

All the worlds problems are the fault of the Democrats starting January 20th!
Suck it up, Democrats – it’s a four-year slog through the slings and arrows for you!
Enjoy!

Although I have many disagreements with the Bush administration, I do respect the fact that we have not been attacked again for 7 years now. I fear that terrorism will show it’s ugly face again soon in the new administration. The appointment of the inexperienced Panetta as director of the CIA shows Obama’s dedication to political maneuvering rather than our nation’s safety. Yes, the Clinton administration is back with all it’s weaknesses. God help us all!

if the US do not want to be hit or being targeted by a terror attack. let’s not terrorize people overseas, let’s stop hitting other people and killing their children, destroying their homes, and supporting dictators to get cheap oil.
let’s the American’s Eagle Ego calm down.
I know there are some people who still say we right when we supported the Apartheid in South Africa, crushed the CIVIL RIGHT MOVEMENT HERE HOME, and for going to vietnam and loosing precious lives out there. But supporting ISRAEL AND PROVIDING THEM WITH ARMS so that they kill children and defensless people from the air, gound,sea after starving them to death for about two years, not allowing cancer patients to get treatment outside Gaza is the UGLIEST THINGS I’VE ever seen!
wake up America. let focus on our problem like Madoff business and other things that are vital to our life here.

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if the US do not want to be hit or being targeted by a terror attack. let’s not terrorize people overseas, let’s stop hitting other people and killing their children, destroying their homes, and supporting dictators to get cheap oil.
let’s the American’s Eagle Ego calm down.
I know there are some people who still say we right when we supported the Apartheid in South Africa, crushed the CIVIL RIGHT MOVEMENT HERE HOME, and for going to vietnam and loosing precious lives out there. But supporting ISRAEL AND PROVIDING THEM WITH ARMS so that they kill children and defensless people from the air, gound,sea after starving them to death for about two years, not allowing cancer patients to get treatment outside Gaza is the UGLIEST THINGS I’VE ever seen!
wake up America. let focus on our problem like Madoff business and other things that are vital to our life here.

President Elect Obama……please please signore this terrible person named Cheney. He is a walking recruiting poster for Al Queda.

I have noticed a lot of the Bush cronies lack something that is very important and yet, maybe they have a lot in common with Bush. The neocons that post here I believe lack grammatical awareness and the understanding of youe constitution that makes up the laws of your land. I can only think that they lack the education and the understanding of their own constitution. You can not post here if you do not understand the most important thing that makes america what it is and that’s your constitution. Under your constitution, you are not to attack another country unless it another country either attacks you or threatens your rights under the constitution. Iraq did not attack nor did it threaten America. It was nothing more than G.W.’s regime manipulating intelligence in order to invade a country that had no responsibility with 9-11. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice should be held with the responsibility of the lost live on both sides. The war on terror was always and is with Osama.So American neocons, go back to school and learn English grammar and study tour constitution. If you can not take the time to do so, then you are no better than the Bush cronies. get a life!!

Obama said in his book – If the political winds should change, he would stand with the Muslims. Americans need to stay awake for the next 4 years.

“If we get hit again it will be by one of the many terrorists created by the Bush administration’s reckless foreign policy, so get off your soapbox.”
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MSN exposed exposed ,
So the 9/11 attacks were done by terrorists created by Bill Clinton then

All this, “he kept us safe for 7-8 years” BS. For one the worst attackonour soil happened on HIS WATCH!!! Even with it proven that he blew off allwarnings that it wasgoing to happen. And yes, when it did happen,he sat and stared for 9 minutes. Even his own staff were freaking out because he wasn’t reacting. Yes, pubs, this is your true leader. And when he finally did react.he had the support of the world behind him only to turn 180 degrees into a private little war that has destroyed our economy and strength in the world. Now we are soin debt to China that they want nothing to do with lending us a dime and we sit here wondering what to do. Yea, that’sthe ticket,let’s give billions to the banking industry, with no accountability. What the heck is going on in this bizzaro world????

WJL,
What a crock? The point is that if Panetta weakens the agency by altering the way things get done, it will decrease our ability to prevent attacks. It has nothing to do with who reports to whom.
The part of the picture that you and other libbies that post here constantly miss is that there will ALWAYS be elements in the world who hate us.
You guys can run around the world kissing the @ss of every terrorist and giving them everything they ask for. There will still be plenty of people who will want to attack us just because we are the US.
All this BS about being the “nice guy” and sitting down at the table and talking is great rhetoric, but that is all it is. Leaders have been trying to “create” a peace in the Middle East for centuries. The simple fact is they have always fought there and they will continue to fight there.
You liberals can cut America’s b@lls off, cripple our military, and then run around the world proclaiming we are the good guys. It won’t change the mentality of these terrorist groups.
Your “messiah” is about to find all this out. Cheney is right “it’s easier campaigning than governing”. So far Obama has NEVER governed. I give him credit for keeping Gates. In the real world, the country needs him.
I am curious though with all that I have you post and espouse on, why have you not been leading the way in asking for the EXIT STRATEGY for Afghanistan? Also, shouldn’t we be concerned on how many billions/month we will spend there?
Remember that you want fair & balanced treatment of Obama, these were questions asked thousands of times of the Bush administration
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You mean Cheney recommends not throwing out the very things that have managed to keep this country safe over the past 7 years? I think I would recommend that, too.
As I have said before, it’s almost hysterical when liberals claim to be anti-terrorism and pro-America. They simply are neither.
They have complained about the war, they have called our soldiers terrorists, they have called our soldiers rapists, they have complained about Abu-Ghraib, they have complained about Gitmo, they have complained about dropping water down terrorists’ noses, they have complained about the Patriot Act, they have complained about EVERYTHING the United States has done to keep their traitorous butts safe.
Liberals are not rooting for America here. They are rooting against America, because it is “the greatest terrorist nation in the world that created the AIDS virus to kill black people”, according to barry o’s pastor of 20 years.

I get so tired of hearing “liberals this” and “liberals that”, as if anyone that doesn’t believe we should carpet bomb the rest of the world can just be lumped into one category of stupid people. I also get tired of hearing neocons decoratively state that “liberals want to do this” and “liberals want to do that”. As evidenced by what? By the statements of lunatic characters on TV? Rev. Wright speaks for everyone that’s not a neocon?
Liberals do not want to dismantle the U.S. military. That tired mantra is from the sixties. But a lot of that money might be more wisely spent, and gain us more security, than a silly, useless missile defense shield that’s antagonizing and alienating the true single greatest threat to our national security (remember Russia, the guys with thousands of nukes and run by an ex-KGB agent with delusions of Stalinhood?).
Liberals are not rooting “against” America. Again the sixties.
What “liberals” want is for the U.S. to get its head out of the sand. They want the U.S. to be great not simply by declaring that we are, but by acting that way.
You can argue all you want about how to do it, about what’s right or wrong. That’s the American thing to do. But simply labeling everyone that disagrees with you as “liberals”, some shadow group of nefarious, powerful people (“look out, there’s a liberal under your bed”), is just silly.
So “weak, sissy liberals” think, like FDR and Eisenhower and other famous Americans, that torturing people is a very, very bad idea. They worry that unscrupulous people, if given unlimited power, may someday use it to destroy the true America. That, just as Nazi Germany grew out of a democracy to terrorize the world, it could happen again.
They want the U.S.A. to have the courage to be courageous, instead of lashing out at everyone and everything in preemptive self-defense.

dave— i carry metal in my body from war i pay my taxes and work hard,and i am a democrat(you say liberal) and what i am sick of is ignorance and that is what teh republican party has been operating on for 8 years(well forever really)and you seem to think us democrats are weak or soemthing i live in clarks grove minnesota at 210 2nd ave why dont you come and find out how weak us liberals are…teh liberals you talk about are a very very very very small part of the democrat party,the rest of us are ready for war against you hateful demonic bush whorshipping nazi,s. if mccain had stole the elction liek bush did we would have had a cival war.

T
You just elected a guy who sat in a pew for 20 years and listened to an insane lunatic shout “Goddamn America” “America is the worst terrorist nation in the world” and “America created the AIDS virus”. Barry brought his kids to hear him speak.
If you are war veteran, I thank you for your service. However, I don’t think I would call you a liberal. You are more of a badly informed democrat who thinks he is a “liberal”.
Are you sure republicans have always been “operating under ignorance”? Wasn’t it Abraham Lincoln who formed the Republican party to end slavery, and Thomas Jefferson, along with the rest of the pro-slavery crazies who began the democratic party to keep slavery around? Wasn’t it the Republicans who fought in terribly bloody war to end slavery and the democrats who fought equally as hard to keep slavery?
When I say you are misinformed that is exactly what I mean. Have you ever heard of George Wallace? He was a democratic presidential canidate who also happened to be a segregationist. Or how about senator byrd, he was a klansmen- gotta love them democrats!!
In reality, the Republicans were about 150 years ahead of the dummycrats on civil rights. The dummycrats didn’t really jump on board until the 60′s when they realized that shoving entitlements down people’s throats= more votes.
Ever since the whole liberal, free love, let your pants hang down mentality took hold in the democratic party, blacks have steadily seen their #’s declining in regards to quality of life when compared to whites (education, housing, marriage rate).
Martin Luther King was a Republican.
Get your facts straight.

Obama has flip flopped on nearly every lib policy he at first, as a raving lunatic lib fantasy based quackjob spewed forth for kosoheads, when he realized the real Americans were ready to give him the hatchet for even suggesting it.
Remember stoppiong the war on day one morphing into 16 months before reductions leave just enough combat troops to… (better than mousefaced liar Murtha’s Okinawa old stone stupidity – wrong war dummy !).
So now we have his communist spend till the cows are drained and their dry carcasses crumble to the dirt plan.
What will Bambi do on the CIA and security ? He will do what he did for the southside of Chicago – not a dang thing – as the murder rate won the national record or spot #2 year after year after year.
He might TRY to take all Americans guns away while he plots to go kiss the cheeks of those who wants to slaughter us all. This is how deranged the commie freak illegal alien liar is. Sure hope the bean counting focus group pol hack campaign managers can slap some sense into dopey (flappy ears) change boy.

Been a couple of months since I have browsed the blogs – see they havent improved much!
Bottom line is if they truly reflect what the average American thinks, then frankly you guys are gone – its now only a matter of how and when.
The naievete re the real politik of world affairs is breathtaking, but must be a great boost to your enemies which some of you dont even seem to realise you have!

Great, now we have a looney-left winger on here telling us who should be allowed to vote. Wouldn’t you just love to live in a nation played by his/her rules? Say – North Korea, USSR, or Nazi Germany perhaps.

Maybe if Cheney had taken his own advice about not getting carried away with campaigh rhetoric, 9/11 never would have happened. How can this arrogant fool claim to have kept us safe when his own silly obsession with “missile defense” led him to ignore the outgoing Clinton administration’s warning that Al Queda was determined to attack the U.S. Cheney and Bush cannot claim to have kept us safe because their innaction and lack of attention resulted directly in the 9/11 attacks. Cheney is a fraud and a liar, just like Bush.

Who cares what that scumbag thinks? Cheney is a war criminal and part of a failed regime. This is just more bad advice from an incompetent loser who almost destroyed our country. The hell with him and anyone who voted for him!

David….back on the meds boy before you hurt yourself or someone else….seriously.

Brain – you’ve got your facts wrong about Clinton. Please stop taking your phony talking points from right wing hate radio and admit to the fact that 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch because Bush failed to take Clinton’s warnings about Al Queda seriously. That is the truth. Nobody believes your sad lies anymore.

Republicans are the dumbest people on the planet. It’s amazing that the dumb cons on these boards are still rehashing their same old discredited talking points and expecting the rest of us to take them seriously. Talk about out of touch… LOL

Brain – you’re full of crap. You claim that Clinton “did nothing about the first tower (sic) attacks”. That’s complete BS. In case you missed it, Clinton successfully arrested and prosecuted Sheikh Abdel Rahman, who was responsible for the first World Trade Center attack. He is currently serving a life sentence in Butner Federal Correction facility in North Carolina. Meanwhile, the guy who attacked the World Trade Center on Bush’s watch is still at large, despite Bush’s drunken “Dead or Alive” boasting.
Sorry, pal, but your Fox News bullcrap propaganda isn’t going to fool anybody anymore. From now on whenever some loudmothed Republican fool like you pops up to spew your hateful lies, there is going to be somebody like me – better educated and more in command of the REAL facts – around to shout your stupidity down.
This is the REAL legacy of the Bush administration: conservative fools like you will NEVER go unchallenged in your stupidity again. Decent, hardworking people like me are going to keep you dopes on a tight leash for the rest of your lives.

Cheney should be turned over to the Hauge to be tried for war crimes.

Al Qaeda grew and prospered under the nose of the Clinton Administration. They had multiple chances to nab or kill Bin Laden a wouldn’t do it. It will take exactly one attack on US citizens by the jihadis to get the public screaming for more security. Good luck Pollyanna!

I can’t believe that anybody still cares what Cheney or any other Republican thinks about anything now. They are completely discredited and have nothing left to offer us but more failure and excuses. Put a sock in it, Mr. Cheney, nobody cares!

Todd – why would Al Queda bother to attack us here when Bush and Cheney have given them ample opportunity to kill American soldiers without ever having to acquire a passport? You Republican apologists are a bunch of morons who still don’t get it.

Somebody needs to take Cheney hunting before he gives any more bad advice that nobody wants. I’ve got a brand new mossberg 12 gauge and would be happy to volunteer. LOL

Todd – you make alot of assumptions. First of all, I’m neither looney nor on “the left”. I just think that Republicans have displayed such spectacularly bad judgement over the last 12 years – the proof of which is irrefutable – that they really don’t deserve to have a say in our political process anymore. Of course, this is obviously hyperbole on my part, but clearly you are too much of a simpleton to understand that (you may want to look up “hyperbole”, too – since it’s well known that most Republicans today are poorly educated).
Realistically, I would like to see Republicans confront their shame, failure and disgrace honestly and without the lies and delusional thinking that marked their nadir in the Bush years. Until deluded fools like you do this, you will continue to embrace a failed, outdated ideology and that’s increasingly irrelevant in the 21st century. And you will continue to lose elections. And I’m fine with that.

Hey Cheney – Pipe down you failed hack! You didn’t protect ANYBODY by violating our civil rights. All you did is create a mess that the rest of us have to clean up. You and Bush should be tried and shot as traitors.

Anybody who thinks the Bush administration policies protected us from terrorism forgets that Bush and Cheney let 9/11 happen on their watch and then tried to blame Clinton for it – despite the fact that Clinton warned them and Bush ignored the warnings. This is a proven fact.

Todd – nice try, but the only partisan here is YOU. Like many things, Bush abused extraordinary rendition beyond all reasonable expectations – torture, clandestine prisons, etc – and partisan Republican apologists like you try to blame Clinton for it. Nobody here is buying your pathetic BS anymore, pal. Give it up. Your lies have lost their luster. Time to get a new script because the rest of us are all laughing at your expired talking points. LOL

sheesh – the nutsos are out today! Martin Luther King – yes he was a Republican, ya know why? Becausein the ’50′s the Democrats in the South were known as Dixiecrats who wanted to kill him! Until the time of FDR, most Black Americans (or Negroes as we were known by then) were Republicans. Lincoln, the man who freed the slaves, was Republican. FDR brought Black America into the Democratic party, where we’ve been ignored (except for election years) ever since.
Now, as for Darth Cheney and Little Bush Skywalker, two more weeks and they can go home. They’re having a big old party now, buying new china for the White House, telling the new Prez what and how to do…GO HOME AND STAY THERE!!!

All I can say is that when Clinton left office he left the country in peace and prosperity and with a massive budget surplus. He also left Bush with an important warning about Al Queda and Bin Laden that went ignored. When Bush’s gang leave office they will leave the country with massive deficits, costly and unresolved foreign wars, and an economy in ruins.

Todd – Nice meltdown. I accept your surrender.

Cons are dumb.

Todd – you are pathetic. Still trying to blame Clinton for 9/11? Get real. If there was a “ticking time bomb” then how come Bush and the GOP completely ignored all the warnings they were given. Sorry, but trying to blame Clinton for 9/11 is craven, pathetic and self-serving. Grow up. Nobody is buying that garbage anymore.

Todd – once again you’ve got it all wrong. What I’m saying is that Clinton understood that extraordinary rendition is, in fact “extraordinary” – not a blanket tool that you can use indiscriminately like Bush did. You really don’t understand complex ideas, do you son?

Cheney is a tool. He should go fishing and be quiet already.

Of course Clinton bares responsibility for 911. He became so overwhelmingly busy perjuring himself and playing hide the cigar that fighting terrorism just wasn’t in the cards. However, he did find time to bomb an aspirin factory in Sudan in an attempt to distract us from his lewinsky liason.
The same band of insane thugs attacked the Trade Center in 93. After Clinton TURNED DOWN taking bin laden into custody, he continued to chop the balls off our mililtary, as every democrat does. His decison to cut back on military left our agencies grossly understaffed and ill-eguipped to prevent 911.
On a more encouraging note, has anyone heard barry say in numerous speeches that “I will cut back on military spending and nuclear weapon’s research”.
God, I feel safer already.

Shelly….a tool, NOT that! Ouu that’s so fearce.

Dave….yeah, it was a Clinton CIA Director, Tenet, in charge on 9/11 as well. I hadn’t heard the speech about military spending, but not surprised.