GOP Strategy: Oppose Pelosi, Not Obama

What strikes me about the Republicans is their inability to compromise. They want it ONLY their way which is the same way it’s been the last 8 years and that hasn’t worked out too well.

its sad too see the same thing comming from the republicans they have to see that it just like the last eight years the me party

republicans have elected Rush what’s name to be the leader of their party. they echo his ranting and hatred of everyone – usually that means that these individuals are deeply disturbed. if you live in a district that has republican representatives – take a look at him/her. If they are preaching and ranting and raving (just like Rush) and if they are not listening to what you say. Let them know and vote them out. Unless you feel the same way and then you are on your own. Good luck

All 178 Republicans in the House refused to vote for the stimulus package. They requested one meeting with Obama and it was the president who invited them in and brought them back twice for talks. Not only did he listen to Republican ideas, he incorporated them into the stimulus — including tax cuts and asking for some Democratic provisions to be removed.
egret57 – I don’t see any compromise from your party.

I’ve always said the republicans care nothing about our country. This example of political pandering proves their disregard for the people of the US.

I find it funny that the news media wants to paint this REP vs DEM. How about PORK BILL vs NON PORK BILL. The STIMULUS only contains 12% simulus.
Thats only 120BILLION the rest, 700BILLION is PORK. So to even make this an REP vs DEM a SHAM SCAM and dispicable. I thought this was the US and reporters were suppossed to report not create news

Let those Republicans rave on.

With the grim situation we are in now, I did not expect anyone of either party to vote no.
“House Republicans said we would stand up for American taxpayers at this time of economic hardship for our nation.
Where the tax will be deducted from when people are layed off from their jobs?

The republicans couldn’t wait to give the banking giants a few billion dollars without any results. What do they have against improving our infastructure? At least we will have better bridges and roads – that might actually go somewhere. They seem to have crazy priorities.

these party generalizations need to cease. really I mean, its like checks and balances. It should be applauded that there is opposition… Im a democract but certainly no liberal. I went left of republican because of recent events over the past 6 years havent been the republican way at all. I can see the rationality of condoms in the first proposed bill (if people use condoms, less unwanted pregnancies or STDs) but I dont think it was necessary.
Good thing the GOP raised concern over this. All types of checks and balances are good. Its a party not a alligence. We give our alligence to America remember.

rassmussen poll out today suggests only 42% approve of this bill in its current form. the GOP is right to fight pelosi on this and shortly you will see obama fight pelosi on this as this bill moves to the senate. infrastructure spending is one thing, social projects is a whole other thing which we dont have the money for . people are speaking up and so far this is a very hollow and shallow victory for the democrats. this will end up costing the democrats. how about a real jobs bill? thats what the people want. this bill is being viewed by most on the street as pork rather than jobs.

The GOP lost because of this mindset. They’re going to lose even bigger in 2010. But somehow I suspect that even after forfeiting more seats, they still won’t get the message. That’s what happens when blind ideology trumps common sense. These people are so stuck in their ideology it’s almost something they should take pills for.
Tax cuts are not the answer to every economic woe. We’ve been doing it their way for 8 years. And now look where we are. In the dumpster. Thanks, guys.

Ergret
What stimulis money does the Gop want They have no Ideas! Just the same old same old Tax cuts. IT HAS NOT WORKED Explain to me how Tax cuts create Jobs? commonsense No Jobs, No money! So no Tax cut needed because your not Paying Taxes,And when you have no Job you have no Money therfore you cant spend and Buy goods in Which Businesses lose and they are forced to lay off workers and in the end Possibly close up!

thank you repubs for standing your ground, to much pork is bad for everyone

Cute real cute the right thinks it is OK to play games and put the America they so much love at peril to make a point that will be mute if the economy continues to tank. God I love these high minded hypocrets, I for one hope the Republican party ends up totally killing itself over this type of crap. The last eight years I have seen all I need to see about the high minded conservative movement. I think they will pay a price in two years people are going to hurt a whole lot more and some of the hurt will equal a vote for the Dems.If it comes down to no jobs and a very bad economy those who vote will have memories .

republicans have elected Rush what’s name to be the leader of their party. they echo his ranting and hatred of everyone – usually that means that these individuals are deeply disturbed. if you live in a district that has republican representatives – take a look at him/her. If they are preaching and ranting and raving (just like Rush) and if they are not listening to what you say. Let them know and vote them out. Unless you feel the same way and then you are on your own. Good luck
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During an innauguration, when the outgoing President leaves the White House the crowd usually cheers. For the first time in history, when Bush, the outgoing President exited the White House, not only did the Democratic crowd “boo” him but all “booed” his wife and children. You whine about the Republicans having “hate”. When YOUR party “boos” even the ex-President’s family, are they showing “love”?

“With the grim situation we are in now, I did not expect anyone of either party to vote no.”
So everyone should just vote for a trillion dollar spending bill, just because things are grim? How about they try to craft a bill that might actually help with an economic ‘recovery’ and not one that throws money around like a drunken bank CEO in a brothel?
There are some good things in the spending bill (schools, roads, energy), but there is a lot of pork, too. I don’t see why we should accept the pork and I’m surprised there is anyone feels that we should.
Pelosi could have worked on a compromise bill that would have placated at least some of the Republicans (and those 11 Democrats who voted ‘No’), but she didn’t choose to do so. That I don’t find surprising.

“I’m w/stupid – The Republican-controlled Congress, allowed a budget in surplus at the end of the Clinton administration to give way to runaway, completely out of control, deficit spending. The White House during that time did not veto a single spending bill in six years.”
Paige, you are correct. That said, the Democrats went along with a lot of it and in the last 2 years (since they took control of Congress) have done very little (if anything) to change things. I believe the President can do a lot of good for the U.S., but I don’t think Pelosi and Reid will let him.

Let’s hope that every Senate Republican will also vote against the porkulus package. Any spending pkg. that contains funding for ACORN, the organization who’s sole purpose in life is to register fradulent voters for the Democrat Party, must be defeated.

Funny, Pelosi and Reid still have higher approval ratings than Bush and Cheney…LOL. Perhaps the stimulus bill is not exactly what it should/could be…I don’t agree with all that is in it, but the way these GOPers are acting is juvenile at best. More tax cuts for the rich will result in nothing new. This country needs representatives who will work together to get the financial crisis under control, and the solution will not happen overnight. Does this mean that we have to endure stone-walling from the GOP (Greedy Old Party) for many months to come? Progressive thinking to get us out of this situation may come with a price, let it not be a price of inaction.

It would be so nice if our CON Gress ever voted for what is good for “WE THE PEOPLE”

Way to go Republicans – Who says he has a 71% approval rating. ABC News, of course.

I Am a Democrat and a Huge Obama supporter. But I do say this Pelosi Has to go! She is too Partisan and will only cause Problems for President Obama where he is trying to Be BiPartisan. on the Other hand The Republicans really have to lose the Tax cut thing it has not worked and they have to Learn to think anew!

That said, the Democrats went along with a lot of it and in the last 2 years (since they took control of Congress) have done very little (if anything) to change things.
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Bush and Paulson were on their knees with every doom and gloom economic scenario BEGGING Reid and Pelosi for help. Their mistake was believing them.
Reid and Pelosi do need to step up, but compromises were made to placate the Republicans and they have no interest. They had 8 years – I do mean 8 to do right by America and so they should probably look at other avenues to take than the one they crashed and burned our country on.
Don’t you remember Bush, Paulson and McCain telling us all how strong our country was just weeks before everything started collapsing?

Wake up !!
8 yrs of taxs cuts and what do we have ???
A CRISIS !!!!
how can anyone trust a repub …

Re: ACORN and those who believe they are the boogyman. Rush and Hannity are not the gospel.
The fact is numerous Republicans have worked closely with ACORN as they do a lot for housing and needy communities. If they are so awful why have Charlie Crist, Rick Perry, John McCain, Michael Bloomberg, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mel Martinez, Tim Pawlenty, Mitt Romney, etc. work closely with them in drafting bills for their state?

I would have boo’d too. This man took a great country to its knees. He is a rock head who is the most stubborn uncomprimising president of all time. Let daddy get him another sports franchise to run so he can screw that up. This will not harm the world.

How can Pres. Obama tell his girls and the children of America, “I want every child to have the same chances to learn and dream and grow and thrive that you girls have,” while at the same time pushing for this bill? This bill passes the consequences of our generation’s mess unto his girls’ generation as well as the generations of their children and grandchildren. Our generation needs to take the lumps for our mistakes and selfishness rather than shackle the next three genterations with chains and anvils while telling them to “aim high and dream big.”
Our generation is suffering from what our family refers to as the “Disney’s Little Mermaid Virus.” Hans Christian Anderson’s message in his story was to choose to take the lumps for your own mistakes rather than selfishly pass them on to someone else. Disney changed the story, thereby sending a message to millions that was exactly the opposite.
This “stimulus” package is the Sea witch’s knife. Our Congress and President are running to use it to kill the opportunities and dreams of the next two or three generations rather than suffer together for one generation while we clean up our mess the difficult but honorable way.

The Republicans are taking a risk in not
trying to work with the President. The President took the time to meet with them on tuesday. Apparently, it was for
naught. Concerning the bill,something
clearly needs to be done. Make it a jobs bill and leave the rest out.

The media, and the O Administration, are making a big deal out of Republicans not voting for this bill. Why? Democrats control Congress. They can (and should) just go ahead and pass all the laws in the Democrat agenda so that they can take full credit, or blame, for what comes out of this “economic stimulus plan”. Democrats are certain the massive government spending will be good for the country … so what is the fear of not having the Republicans sign off on this?

So……the Republicans took their ball and left the game when the entire House wouldn’t play by their rules? I’m not too impressed with their rhetoric, and even less so when I consider that they’re the ones who called the shots for 14 of the last 16 years – which means they own most of the blame for the current situation. Maybe a thinking Republican would realize that, and would think of a way to get along with a popular President.

The repubs are playing to the lowest denominater–gutless- obstructionist- they care not a bit about the ‘PEOPLE’… they -along with bclinton got us into this but have no plan or foresight to get us out…We get .75 cents back from taxcuts and $1.25 from stimulus—a no brainer — if the understood it!…Stupid and against the American people. Call them- 1.800.828.0498..switch board and takes some time but let them have it!

Dont Worry the repubs will pay once again in 2010 ….

I do not see why everyone is embracing this plan. The goal was supposed to be an ‘immediate’ impact on the economy. I have read this thing and I see very little of that. …and for the people asking ‘where are the republicans’ idea?’ …google it. ‘The Economic Recovery and Middle-Class Tax Relief Act of 2009.’ I believe there are good ideas with both plans, but either one in its entirety is wrong. Most of pelosi’s plan is crap, honestly. Read it and judge for yourself. I am a republican and I am proud that the package did not receive any votes from my party. I am 100% opposed to it IN ITS CURRENT FORM. There is way too much wasteful spending in the current bill for anyone to support. In my opinion, the people who are ‘all for it’ are just following their hearts instead of their heads. Do we need to do something? Yes. Should we blindly the first idea that crosses the desk? No. I don’t want Obama to fail…there is too much at risk for that. I do want to see an idea that actually makes sense…I do not care who it comes from. Democrat or Republican. People should stop the whole ‘I belong to this party, so I will do as they say’ crap. It will only make things worse…and trying to point fingers will not correct our current situation. It will only further divide our country. I cannot believe people would support the ‘we won, you lost…we will do what we want now’ mentality. It is not constructive at all. We have parties for a reason and there is a middle ground. It’s sad that the people who run this country will not put their egos aside to find it. I believe that is one of the many reasons the Republicans voted against it. Let’s quit fighting and put our heads together to figure something out instead of one group of people declaring that they are the voices of the masses simply because they won the election. Not all democrats support the plan, so that’s obviously the wrong attitude to have.

The headlines should read – “bipartisan opposition to the stimulus bill” . Has anyone who is chastising those who opposed the bill actually read what it contains?? It is full of spending programs that have little if anything to due with simulating the economy. Amtrak, NASA, museums? Come on. We need a bill, but lets spend the time to get it right. The reporters should be doing more to highlight the wasteful spending in this package to make all informed.

Stdntdrvr
The Republicans had no plans Just their big famous Tax cuts, Have you not seen TAX CUTS ALONE DO NOT WORK!Do you know why the Gop has not Compromised on this bill? Because they Have No Ideas They are still stuck in the Stoneages with their Far right Idealogy Of Tax cuts and Tax cuts only! This is why the Gop lost and this is why they will continue to loose!

What remains of the GOP can be compared to the Taliban.
These freaks are idealogues and no matter what you do to prove to them that their ideas have not worked in the last eight years and that is why they were booted out in 2006 and 2008, they keep ploughing on.
They are addicted to their ideology of “Tax Cuts, Tax Cuts, Tax Cuts” just like the Taliban is addicted to their ideology of “Jihad, Jihad, Jihad”.
They will not listen to anything else. They are blinded. They are like flies that will follow a smelly corpse to their own death when they are buried with it in the grave.
The 2010 elections are coming. Let the Repugs keep hitting full trottle for the cliff.

I Concur Sam, they have spent like Drunken sailors for 8 yrs and now they are all of a sudden fiscal experts, LOL
this is plain stupid and the only people who see’s this as good are the same 23% that thought bush was a good president.
Sad….

Kary ,The US Govt does not fund ABORTIONS !!
Sorry but you have your info. WRONG !!

Buck,
Did I ever say which ideas of the Republican plan would work? No. I said there is a middle ground. Somewhere, this is a middle ground. Both parties need to work together to find it. The Republican party did not spit on Obama’s hand…they simply asked to be heard. Nothing wrong with that…there are more than just Dems in Congress. This isn’t an argument about which party is better than the other. Simply a statement saying that they should quit arguing and work together. Why is that so wrong? That’s all I’m asking for.
Angie,
I understand 100% that tax cuts alone do not work. Again, middle-ground. As I clearly stated, I do not support either plan in its entirety. Why are you people making my statement into a political argument? Neither plan is good. I do not care WHO comes up with a good idea…when it makes sense, I’ll support it. If it’s drawn-up by the Democrats, I’ll support it. I do not care who the authors are.

I’m not against a stimulus package that is good for the economy. I don’t want O to fail, I don’t want our country to fall further into the recession….that being said, the reps should give up on tax cuts, and Pelosi should remove the idiot pork included in the package. I personally don’t want to supply condoms for people, when they are already free through planned parenthood, I don’t want to support organizations such as ACORN..this organization has made some slum lords in Chicago very rich.
Please reps and pelosi, work together or let the Senate sort it out without her interference. O should just get up there and say the same thing. After all, he is the new saviour.

STDNTDRVR
I belive thats what President Obama is trying to do! He even had Democrats in the House pull some of the Spending and the Gop still would not compromise or come up with a plan, President Obama even had House Democrats Add some Tax cuts That the Gop wanted and what do we get from the Gop NOTHING!

Angie,
So, pull the spending for condoms and sod and all is well? There is way too much waste. I don’t care if George Bush drew it up…it is a joke as it currently stands. Explain to me how this bill will provide instant impact to our economy? To me, this is not a ‘party’ issue. Can we not look past the whole dem/rep argument? This is our jobs, our future, our country…I would not stake all of that on party lines…we stand to lose too much.

Buck,
No kidding. $500 isn’t going to help out at all. Obviously nothing was learned from Bush’s stimulus plan.
I do not see how this plan will keep people employed. That’s the problem. Sure, it will create jobs…in a couple of years…but where is the ‘instant’ impact? I just don’t see it.

STNDT
I dont know about Instant Impact and yes I agree with some of the Spending it has got to go but as fas as Infrastructure and helping state Budgets I belive will in the long run Produce Jobs you have to Remember there is alot Unemployed out there Right now what are these People to do?

Instant impact would have to be 5000 per person anything short of that is would not work.
Im not looking for that but rebuilding roads and bridges are a good start.

FINALLY! A break-through!
No political BS to clog up this discussion!
I agree with the infrastructure projects. We have been hurting very badly for those.
As far as funding the states, they need money just as badly as all of us. While this will improve the future of our country, we need something to provide results quicker. I think those two ideas should be left in the bill because they do provide a long-term solution. I agree with wanting to update the federal buildings to consume less energy and so-forth. That is money well spent. We just need something that will provide an immediate impact.
Brandon, I see your point over the condom issue, but they’re already offered for free from your local health dept. As far as the $5K child tax credit, I would enjoy this. I have 3 kids…and trust me, that money would go right back into the economy. I do not rely on gov’t assistance. I work and my wife works part-time. Money is tight, but we survive. I do not think it would cause more people to just ‘live off of their children’ because there is currently a floor for the amount one has to make in order to receive the money. Granted, it should be increased.

StDNT
I really dont think there is a quick Fix sadily you cant Just Produce Jobs Overnight But here is an Idea how about they Build Factories and Have some of our Products made here In America instead of us getting Everything from China or Mexico!

looks to me like almost 10% of democrats voted against. Why is the news media ignoring this?

Agree STDNT There is Hope! But dont you agree if they took a big Chunk of that Money and rebuilt Factories and started making things Here in America Jobs would be Produced like Crazy and it would Leave us Not depending on other Countries for Goods

Buck
Thats right Buck thats what we need Manufacturing along With Infrastructure and Jobs will be created Like crazy!

Kyle,
I haven’t asked for the money. I agree, I did choose to have my children and I do not think it is anyone else’s responsibility to pay for them. The problem is not the tax credit, it is what people do with the money. If used correctly, it would be no different than offering a grant to schools. The problem is most people do not use it as they should. Personally, I would like to use the money to invest for my children’s college fund. This would also ‘help the economy.’ Stocks are low, so it would be a good time to invest. When the Child Tax Credit was implemented did they increase taxes? I honestly don’t recall, but I doubt they did. So, this was done with no negative impact to yourself. As far as ‘over population,’ it’s not our gov’t responsibility to push ‘population control.’ That is going on in China, I believe.
Angie,
I agree with you 100%. We need our jobs back. Sure, items may cost more at the register, but they’ll be costing less to the well-being of our country. Besides, more people working equates to more people buying…and we all know that when items are produced in bulk, they are cheaper. So, in theory, that would bring down the cost of goods that are made in the U.S.

Kyle,
Is that attitude really necessary? Whether you want kids or not it honestly none of my business nor none of my concern. I was providing you with a logical answer to you post. Your taxes were not increased due to the Child Tax Credit, so how is it that you believe you are being wronged? If it wasn’t going to children directly, it would be indirectly. So, either way you would, and still are regardless, contribute. My only advice to you would be to either not pay taxes at all or move. I doubt you could do anything without paying taxes which would be used for our children and our future whether the Child Tax Credit was there or not, so you’re fighting a losing battle.

the only immeadiate thing the government can do is issue checks to everyone (individuals and corporations). Which I really dont want to go through again. Everything else is going to require planning, which will take some time! You cant fold a dollar bill into a factory!

Buckfromclev,
Sorry but your info is wrong. Obama lifted the ban on the Mexico City policy which does allow US funds to pay for abortions out of the country.
It’s on ABC news….read it!
President Obama signed an executive order today reversing the ban that prohibits funding to international family planning groups that provide abortions, as first reported by ABC News.

People,
I just wish both DEMS and REPUBS would stop the political crap (that would be like hell freezing over) and get together to work on what needa to be done for the American people and this country. Clearly something has to be done in order to help us right the ship, but the way I see it, whatever the amount of the stimulus plan, why are we worrying about it? Our budget deficit is already beyond control with the amount of money we are borrying to fight 2 wars. IMO with the continuing job losses and resultant unemployment benefits, increased in health care costs for the uninsured, increasing homeless population and people who need public assistance, cuts in public safety – policemen, firemen; bankrupt school districts, etc….. why are we worried about how much it’s going to cost. Money is going to have to be spent one way or the other. With less people working, how are you going to make up taxes (needed to keep the government functioning)if you cut them?
We need a plan that addresses both the short and long term. We cannot afford to have tunnel vision when everything that needs to be done has such a intertwining effect on the here and now, and the future.
As it is now, so many of the businesses in the US today are foreign owned, we will soon be called the United States of Japan.

When Pelosi became speaker of the house, the jet the last speaker had was’t good enough for her.She had to have a much larger one which cost us tax payers millions. Her home state is 40 BILLION dollars in the red and she will make shure the rest of the country goes down in flames with CA.She is a moron.

JR,
You must be a BHO worshipper as you statement is so ignorant. Typical of Liberals–emotion and non-factual statements. Give some specifics about your assertions of “political pandering”. I be you 1,000 bucks you haven’t even look at the stimulus package.

I Hope He Fails!

For all the people who sneer at tax cuts: http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm
A reasonable stimulus would be to have both stimulus spending for infrastructure and immediate tax cuts phased out over 3-5 years. The corporate tax should be reduced and loopholes eliminated. I believe Rangel is looking at this last one.
We also need to look at cutting the annual federal budget, or at least slowing growth relative to future revenue increases. Increasing tax rates to excessive values will in long run decrease tax revenues as people find ways to avoid taxes and shift their income around or leave the USA. Businesses will eventually leave. Look at how businesses have moved around the US to get lower taxes and pay lower salaries where housing is reasonable. CA is enjoy the negative part of this now.
Should we give a tax rebate to tax payers? Definitely not the illegal immigrants. Many people said the Bush tax rebate was ineffective. Why? Many people did not spend it so we did not get full multiplier. We had a short bump which did not sustain us. Think people were afraid earlier this year and did not spend it all. How much would you spend for additional consumption if you had a rebate check. I am guess a lot of people will just pay a bill or put in bank (or under mattress) for future bills. Not exactly a good way to stimulate the economy.
We should use some stimulus funds for electrical grid. If we are ever to use wind energy in significant amount we will need a large grid in the midwest. A capable grid in southwest could be used for solar power. Solar is still better served locally so incentives(tax credits) for local solar would be money well invested.
The gas tax needs to be increased to fund the highway trust fund. This needs to be done in a transparent way to make sure funds are really used for infrastructure and not used for pork projects. Both Democrats and Republicans have abused this for decades. It is time for we the people to stop this foolish pork.
Given that by most estimates less than 1/3 of the “stimulus” spending would be done in a year, why is there the rush to get a bill passed immediately. We should be able to read it and discuss the real value of some of the projects. If those people pushing cannot allow this, what are they hiding.
If both sides cannot agree on a stimulus package that has real investments for the future, well, maybe it is time to make the prediction a Russian made of three countries from breakup of USA come true. Hopefully it is peaceful and not violent but only the time will tell.

LOL, The Republicans on this board latch onto ACORN like a squirrel afraid of losing its nuts. They can’t get their talking points straight even after Rush has given them their instructions.

Clint
Get off the kool-aid. Rush doesn’t spout lies. He simply exposes the far left, which has recently become the normal left, as anti-American, socialistm, anti-military, appeasing traitors.
This is why the liberal nuts in the media want to silence him so bad, he exposes them for what they are.
If the American people really knew what Barry O, Pelosi, reid, shumer, barney frank and the rest of the socialist dems really stood for, none would ever be eleceted again.

dave – good god, man, Rush lives in his own paranoid alternate reality which is so far from the truth that what comes out of his mouth is gibberish. Any media outlet that doesn’t agree with his warped ideas is suddenly defined as “commie liberal media”. He’d love to see Republicans in charge again, when the harsh consequences of Republican rule stares us in the face everyday. In Rush’s exclusive universe, any one not like him is an enemy; no healthy discourse or agreeing to disagree. And if you are not part of Rush’s extremely limited circle, he will savage you. Not a good plan for the Republicans to make him their mouth piece. The American people spoke clearly in the last election. Maybe Republicans, and Rush, in particular, should try listening. Otherwise, we will get to see just how many times the lemmings can be led over a cliff

Rush is what the republicans have left of a once viable political party. Stick together folks and go down with the ship – Obama 08!

How does spending $75 million to fund programs to help people quit smoking in our Stimulus BIll or spending $335 million for treatment and prevention of sexually transmitted diseases or spending $400 million for research into global warming, ….., will help to restore economy.
ARE DEMOCRATS OUT OF THEIR MIND?
I SMELL DEFEAT in 2010 and 2012

So the GOP is listing to a drug abuser.
I wonder if Rush can tell the truth. He has so much anger that he is an the biggest moron in the U.S. Both parties need to work together or they all can be the cause of our problems.

Tax cuts wont help. Think about it!!
If you are unemployed you are not paying taxes . How is cutting taxes that you don’t pay anyway going to help??
Business receives the benefits of tax cuts but not right away.. If they are not getting business, their taxes drop anyway because they are not making as much money.
Besides the fact that many if not most small businesses don’t pay taxes anyway.Yes the tax rate for businesses is high, however with the allowed deductions they don’t pay much at all in the end
The answer is to put money in peoples pockets to spend through job creation.
Build something in this country with American made products ! That is the only answer to this mess.

some polls showed Polosi=34% approval.
Obama=0% approval .

Norman Mattoon Thomas (November 20, 1884 – December 19, 1968), was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.
Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech:
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” He went on to say: “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

Are all democrats suffering from Alzheimers? Don’t you remember the healthy economy after the Reagan tax cuts and again the Bush tax cuts? Bush’s problem was that he let the democratic congress pass their pork bills and the war in Iraq that put the deficit out of the roof. Have you ever heard of a poor person starting a business and hiring people? Why do you have a mental block about tax cuts for the ‘rich’? Can’t you see Pelosi/Reid/Obama are leading you down the path to Socialism. You’re all thinking ‘oh good a stimulus check is coming for me’. Before you realize what has happened you’ll all be standing with your hands out waiting for a pitence from the government. You’ll have to get in line to seek medical care and hope to get the medicine needed. Take a look around at the Socialist countries – is this what Democrats want for America? I guess so.

Republicans still don’t get it… That equals more lost seats in 2010. MY FELLOW DEMOCRATS: IT’S TIME (NOW) TO START CAMPAIGNING FOR THOSE SEATS IN 2010. We got some of them out already, we can get those seats that are up for grabs if we start NOW… We don’t need to wait, IT’S TIME TO CAMPAIGN FOR EVEN MORE CHANGE, and let the GOP stay focused on themselves as they have always done….

FYI, according to Ben Stein:
# The House of Representatives debated the bill for eight hours, or roughly $102 billion per hour.
# Only 10 percent of the stimulus funds would be spent in 2009.
# Almost half of the $820 billion would end up in the pockets of Democratic-controlled unions, such as the Service Employees International Union, and federal, state, and municipal employee unions.
# At 680 pages long, neither Obama nor any member of the House had enough time to read the entire bill before the House voted.
# The $820 billion would be enough to give every unemployed American $75,000.

ChicagoBob,
Where have you been for the past 2 years.The media wanted Pres. Obama and the masses followed.

Republicans are just a bunch of selfish self centred politicians who couldn’t care two hood if Americans are dying tomorrow from hunger, cos they are living pretty in their own big mansions. And the mess was created by their very own republican president (re..what’s his name again?). I am not even an American; so can imagine how detestable the republicans are

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5660573.ece
Prime Minister Gordon Brown warned today that the world is headed for a 1930′s style depression, not a recession. 1980′s Reaganomics tax cuts for the wealth, big corporations and dividends won’t work! History is on the side of the democrats and the New Deal with government spending, infastructure projects…That, along with our entrance to World War II, propelled us into an economic boom in the 1950′s. The Republicans want to sell more tax cuts, which only benefit the wealthy and powerful few, there is no real evidence that tax cuts necessarily equate jobs or a stimulus of any kind, in addition, the economic period of the 1980′s was rife with a growing disparity between the rich and poor, street/gang crime, mall shootings, etc. and resulted in another recession at the end of Bush Senior’s term. It is a lie for the Republicans to assert history is on their side and to oppose Pelosi. Pelosi knows her history and understands the steps that are needed to help pull us out of this economic slump, save and create jobs, and help move us into recovery.