Jill Biden Tells Oprah Her Hubbie Offered Choice of VP or Secy of State
During the taping of the Oprah Winfrey show today, Dr. Jill Biden said that her husband, the vice president-elect, was given a choice of being either vice president or secretary of State.
This revelation came after Vice President-elect Joe Biden told Oprah that after then-Sen. Obama offered the job of VP he asked for some time to think about it and talk it over with his family.
Mrs. Biden interjected: "Joe had the choice of being secretary of State or vice president." She then seemed to realize she’d said something she wasn’t supposed to have said.
Her husband laughed.
Said Oprah, trying to continue the conversation, "You said, ‘Joe…?’"
"I said, ‘Joe if you are secretary of State you will be away, I’ll never see you,’" Mrs. Biden said. "We will see you at a state dinner once in a while. But I said if you are vice president, the entire family, because they worked so hard for the election, they can be involved … They can come to our home, they can go to events, they can be with us and that is what is important to us."
Oprah turned to the VP-elect, asking "Were you worried about being number 2 because you wanted to be number one?"
"I think Barack was worried about it," the former senator said with a laugh.
This can’t be the kind of thing that would please Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY.
More to come.
– jpt
UPDATE: ABC News’ Justin Anderson reminds me of this slightly more politic version of the story, from Ryan Lizza’s Oct. 20th New Yorker profile of the loquacious Blue Hen:
"Obama also asked Biden whether he thought that he was more suited to a different position. ‘He said, "You have a great interest in national-security policy, foreign policy,"’ Biden told me. ‘He wasn’t offering me this, but he said, "Would you rather be secretary of State instead of vice president?" And I thought a lot about that.’
"Biden consulted with his closest political advisers, including Ted Kaufman, Mike Donilon, and John Marttila, all of whom have been with him since the early days of his career. ‘They convinced me that I could have more influence on policy as a vice president with Barack,’ Biden said. ‘And so the bottom line of all of this is that I said, "Barack, look, if you’re going to ask me to do this, please don’t ask me for any reason other than that you respect my judgment. If you’re asking me to join you to help govern, and not just help you get elected, then I’m interested. If you’re asking me to help you get elected, I can do that other ways, but I don’t want to be a vice president who is not part of the major decisions you make."’"
UPDATE #2: And ABC News’ Karen Travers points out, this goes against what Obama folks are claiming now, as seen in Sunday’s Washington Post.
"His first — and arguably most startling — major decision was to select Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) as his secretary of state, an idea that he had before the election and that he put on the table in his first post-election meeting in Chicago on Nov. 5, several advisers said. Obama never wanted Clinton for any other post and did not seriously consider any other candidates for the top diplomatic job, they said."
UPDATE #3: In a written statement, Elizabeth Alexander, spokesperson for the vice president-elect, writes: "Like anyone who followed the presidential campaign this summer, Dr. Jill Biden knew there was a chance that president-elect Obama might ask her husband to serve in some capacity and that, given his background, the positions of vice president and secretary of State were possibilities. Dr. Biden’s point to Oprah today was that being vice president would be a better fit for their family because they would get to see him more and get to participate in serving more. To be clear, President-elect Obama offered Vice President-elect Biden one job only — to be his running mate. And the Vice President-elect was thrilled to accept the offer."

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I really dont see why Hillary would care.
The snub was supposed to be that she wasnt on the VP short list. So why would she care that Biden was offered both slots?
Posted by: BertieW | January 19, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
I’m looking for a job, about to be homeless and Obama and his rich elite friends are spending 175 million dollars on a party..typical of Liberals
Posted by: who says what | January 19, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Sweeeeet
Posted by: Huh | January 19, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
I don’t think this is a big deal at all.
Posted by: Amoreena | January 19, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Good on Joe. May he have much influence on Number 44 who needs all our help.
Posted by: stsabc | January 19, 2009, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
… and of course the revelation — if it IS an actual revelation — sees to it that Clinton’s embarrassed and undercut AGAIN, just before the Ball.
Jill Biden’d better be careful those little glass slippers don’t cut her off at the knees.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
So? I don’t think this a big deal. I doubt Hillary, much less most in the political world, would see it as such. It’s funny that you do.
Posted by: ok | January 19, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Somebody should put a muzzle on Jill Biden before she does more harm. Hilliary will still do her best but now the tabloids, Rush, Hannity, Gibson, Coulter, etc. will have a field day.
Posted by: beto | January 19, 2009, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
who says what—he’ll be bringing jobs, so hold on. and don’t listen to Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reily and Coulter, you’ll just get angry and depressed. i don’t know where your $$ figure came from, but it’s not what Obama is spending. people will be making all kinds of money at the inauguration selling things.
just hold your head up, be hopeful and a job will come your way, better than the one you had.
being bitter and haeful won’t make you a good applicant.
Posted by: Paul Wall | January 19, 2009, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Slap now lets work together. Yeah, right lets see when ole Billy C gets mad at Obama and Joe.
Posted by: Jim Rod | January 19, 2009, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
enough with Oprah… Next we’ll hear Caroline got the senate seat. That would be an embarrassment.
Posted by: Sally | January 19, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Nice anti-woman touch from the puppet-in-waiting to have two WOMEN — Biden and Oprah — do a final hatchet job on Clinton that may be meant to obscure the unforgettable facts that Great White Joe got next to no votes in the primaries, founded his little Delaware dynasty on credit corporations
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Jill Biden? Time to move on to new topics Jake. Print something of interest.
Posted by: Newport | January 19, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
I would have thought with all of Caroline’s money she would have taken some speech classes. Clearly she can not speak well and can not be taken serious.
Posted by: Terry | January 19, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Who says what…
Good luck finding a job, I hope you do get one. Complain about 170m in an inauguration yet you have no beef against the guy that cost you your job. That’s rich!
Posted by: Obama09 | January 19, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
Belle-
I LOVE JOE BIDEN! He’s Awesome! I guess you liked little Sara because she had pretty clothes and spoke like you maybe, huh?
Posted by: Obama09 | January 19, 2009, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm
“Somebody should put a muzzle on Jill Biden before she does more harm.”
Anybody who doesn’t have braces on his/her brain will recognize that Jill Biden would NEVER have said such a thing unless she’d been sent there for the purpose OF saying it.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
what is their to like about Biden.
Posted by: Liz | January 19, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Joe would’ve been an outstanding Sec of State because of his vast foreign policy knowledge. Hillary would have been a terrible … oh shoot.
Posted by: Chris | January 19, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
Exactly why does she who spews nothing but negatives refer to President Obama as the puppet? A man of color with a Harvard Degree couldn’t possibly in your world, stand on his own, be his own man and use the gifts God gave him with out somebody telling him what to do? You need a time out!
Posted by: try the truth | January 19, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
I am not a H Clinton supporter, but I don’t understand why she accepted Secretary of State when in 4 years she could have ran against Obama and probably won. To know that she was considered after the fact is a real insult to HC.
Posted by: CW | January 19, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
“Joe would’ve been an outstanding Sec of State because of his vast foreign policy knowledge.”
Yeah: Biden’s aneurysm-enhanced drunk-uncle monologues would have been … well, they would have been SOMEthing.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Much adoooooo about nutin.
Posted by: Jim Bob | January 19, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
It should have been the other way around with Hillary V.P. and Biden S.O.S. We all know that Hillary had the most pull in this new adminstration. Look you is surrounding Obama, its Bill’s former people. This deal was struck between Obama and Hillary! The End!
Posted by: joe | January 19, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Belle, I guarantee you don’t have an uncle as smart as Joe Biden.
People rail on this guy for being straightforward and direct. Cracks me up. You all hate politicians who act like robots, yet when one comes along that’s more human, you crucify him. Anything make you people happy or do you all just like to complain from your easy chairs??
Posted by: Obama09 | January 19, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Once again Biden opened his mouth and spoke
Posted by: Jane | January 19, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
It’s going to be a long four years.
Posted by: Kitty | January 19, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
“what is their to like about Biden.”
Not his hair. Not his oratory. Not his lies about how his first wife died. Not his macho sports-and-military burbling.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
ABC News, the Disgrace to Real
Journalism, left out one important
aspect of the story.
The fact that Joe Biden tried to
shush his wife after she told Oprah
that he was offered either the VP slot
or the Secretary of State position!
If President Obama is smart he will
Shush Biden for the Next Four Years!
Posted by: reaganfan | January 19, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
“Belle, I guarantee you don’t have an uncle as smart as Joe Biden.”
Hahaha. Boy are YOU wrong …
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
I love Joe Biden — and I love that he’s VP. I have a feeling we will all fall in love with Jill Biden, as well.
Posted by: hang | January 19, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Who gives a crap.Hillary will have to duck the bullets when she goes over seas,,,,Better see her there then in the White house.
Posted by: NHvoter | January 19, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
“If President Obama is smart he will
Shush Biden for the Next Four Years!”
Remember when Brock kissed Jill Biden full on the mouth onstage? Any “shushing” of Biden by Biden was pro forma, silly.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
“I have a feeling we will all fall in love with Jill Biden, as well.”
And that Michelle Obama … won’t.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
It’s comforting to know that a plagiarist is a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
Posted by: grumpyoldman | January 19, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
Obama09:
Do you call Biden’s statement that
Franklin Roosevelt when on TV after
the stock market crash of 1929 an
intelligent statement!
Do you think that Biden proclaiming that
President elect Obama will “be tested
with an international crisis within the
first 6 months of his administration”
an intelligent statement!
Do you think that Bidens lack of
knowledge of the duties of the VP shows
his intelligence!
Calling Governor Sarah Palin
Lieutenant Governor shows how
straightforward and intelligent
Joe Biden is?
You would be better off defending
Soupy Sales.
Posted by: reaganfan | January 19, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
It it was supposed to be a snub on Hillary, that would be a shame! I wonder what is the motive? They better know, that Hillary is well loved!
Posted by: Joseph V. George | January 19, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Belle, you have a smart uncle? How smart?
Posted by: Obama09 | January 19, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
HRC is a has-been politician being shipped out to the back forty. Secretary of State is a largely ceremonial role when there is a strong President… unlike Bill Clinton who let Maddie Albright set his foreign policy agenda. The idea is to keep Clinton far away and unable to influence the Washington agenda. Good idea.
Posted by: J Robinson | January 19, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Will Jill Biden be Obama’s first pardon?
Posted by: LV Dave | January 19, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
“It’s comforting to know that a plagiarist is a heartbeat away from the Presidency.”
At least Biden plagiarized from outside the US. The puppet-elect re-ran Axelrod’s speeches for Deval Patrick, Cesar Chavez, Malcolm X, and WHOever. And ripped off John Edwards, of course.
Biden-Obama go together like Leopold and Loeb.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Belle I think loved Hillary…
Posted by: Obama09 | January 19, 2009, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
I’d say VP Biden’s wife has a big mouth. I suppose this would come out some time but not quite so soon. Nothing but a distraction for now. His wife really didn’t show any class on this. Zip it up lady.
Posted by: richard warren | January 19, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
It appears that Jill has the same problem as her husband: hoof in mouth disease. Hillary’s role will definitely not be role playing. She will be THE Secretary of State and she will make sure that she is well-received. Fact is, she should have been president, not Mr. and Mrs. BO.
Posted by: suzy | January 19, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
I love it. It’s just great news. I’m so sick of the inaugeration already. But wait, they haven’t crowned him King yet. Way to go Jill Biden, and in front or Oprah, no less! The half that didn’t vote the new Messiah in can sit back and LAUGH! They are human and do make mistakes, like the one made on Nov. 4th.
Posted by: wowthatsgreat | January 19, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
I guess Jill Biden cared less about which job her husband could best serve America in but rather which one had the most perks and benefits for her and her family. That seems to be Michelle Obama’s mind set as well.
Posted by: Melody Bakken | January 19, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
jpt writes:
“‘I think Barack was worried about it,’ the former senator said with a laugh.”
See: MRS. Biden puts down Clinton, BIDEN puts down the puppet-elect.
It’s not beyond possibility that the puppet-elect’s just been stringing Clinton along until the ascension, and she’ll be gone by next week, sabbed privately by … the “Obama” machine.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Seems like Biden’s wife is just as goofy as he is. They need to learn what to say and what not to say. For the idiot that called the SOS position a ceremonial position when the president is strong, that is a bowl of crap and you know it, especially in this environment that we are currently living in, this is a position that require great skill and ability, you must be a strong minded individual and a tough negotiater as well as a great mediator. Obama could not even be SOS under someone elses administration because he is to much of a back peddler and crowd pleaser.
Posted by: Kim | January 19, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Joe Biden would have brought the key ingredients of dignity and integrity to the office of Secretary of State. Now our foreign policy image will look like a low class soap opera.
Posted by: PeteRoth | January 19, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
I must say, I am just so Happy that this is bush’s last day in office. It’s now time to open the windows of the White House and let all the stale air out. I just hope that everyone knows it is going to take a long time to clean up this mess that was caused by the whole bush-league.
Posted by: pt | January 19, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Hillary as second choice. How appropriate!!
Posted by: hillarywillalwaysbesecond | January 19, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
VP is the easer job, thats the real reason he took it. Good luck Hillary.
Posted by: w | January 19, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
It’s the Commander-in-Chief… not the Secretary of State that makes the calls.
Colin Powell? Condie Rice? Maddie Albright? Anybody remember Warren Christopher? LOL. Is the world any different because of these? No, it was the President who makes the difference for better or for worse.
Posted by: J Robinson | January 19, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
I don’t think Hillary could have handled the Vice Presidency, this deal worked out the best for all.
Posted by: Obama09 | January 19, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
“it is going to take a long time to clean up this mess that was caused by the whole bush-league.”
NOTHING Bush did was done without the craven collaboration of the hijacked “Democrats”, including the puppet-elect who’s now decided He “always thought Bush was a good guy”.
And NOBODY was more of a neo-con collaborator than hawker-than-Bush Joe Biden.
It’s nice Bush will be gone. The country’d do well to leave the White House untenanted for twenty years or so.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
If Hillary was offered the choice of working close to home or away, she would jump at any chance to be as far away as possible.
Posted by: PeteRoth | January 19, 2009, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
I think the good dr has a snarky side, wanting to get a dig in. She’s not stupid, she knew what she was saying. I smell a trouble maker, hope someone can keep a sock stuffed in her mouth for 4 yrs.
Posted by: samhiguchi | January 19, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
And remember Biden’s fear of flying … and that there are no trans-oceanic trains.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 19, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
“Biden’t say inythin…er, oh God, ah hey chuck, ah stand down er up er ah, well I smart…”
Posted by: Jake | January 19, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Maybe Jill should sit out of anything that would require her to speak. Common sense is not something that can be taught….
Posted by: Me | January 19, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Hillary can still run in four years if she is disrespected. People will watch closely, not to worry. Let’s not forget Biden didn’t get votes from the public to begin with and Hillary is way and above what Biden could ever hope to be. Some people just need their egos boasted since they are obviously deprived at home. Hillary will win in landslide if there’s any monkey business going on, so watch out Jilly Bean.
Posted by: zorra | January 19, 2009, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
I still get amazed at Bush nominating his country club buddy – the show horse organization big cheese – to run FEMA. We haven’t seen anything that comes even close to that kind of nonsense . . . that’s a change I can support.
Posted by: pefros | January 19, 2009, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
Great days to come as we look forward to a resurgent United States under the wisdom and leadership of Barack Obama and Joe Biden, with Hillary Clinton as the finest of Secretaries of State. We can all look forward finally to peace and prosperity again, under the man that is poised to be the greatest President of all time.
Posted by: Obama09 | January 19, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
The Biden’s have no class.
Posted by: zorra | January 19, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Obama would have been elected with or without Biden. Has he forgotten he hardly got any votes to be president. What’s she thinking in trying to undermine Hillary. Hillary will chew her up and spit her out. She should think before she speaks and when you watch this women on stage she is more nervous than anyone I have ever seen, which shows she isn’t comfortable in her own skin, has low self esteem and signs of being abused. Little Jill needed an ego boater and will get another Biden spanking, I bet. Again, OBAMA COULD HAVE DONE IT without your husband. Obama would have won regardless of who he picked for VP. In fact he would have won even bigger had he picked Hillary for VP. I hear we need math teachers, JILL? Opps, maybe not…
Posted by: zorra | January 19, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
And Biden is a known plagiarist. Do you expect me to believe anything he says?
Posted by: Bill | January 19, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Great point Melody Bakken. Forget the regular little guy or the American public. What’s best for us?? That’s how all the politicans think now. The minute the election is over it goes back to “what’s my take in this deal?” That’s just a fact…who cares about People magazine. They don’t know anything.
Posted by: wowthatsgreat | January 19, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
We could be celebrating our country’s first female vice president right now, but Biden didn’t want to spend too much time away from his family (of grown children). Hillary should have been vice president and we all know it. Biden actually probably is better suited for Secretary of State, and Hillary better suited for vice president. Oh well.
Posted by: Time to stop pretending | January 19, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
who says what: No, Obama is not spending $175 million. His supporters are. You got your facts wrong. Typical of right-wing idiots.
Posted by: Dantheguy9 | January 19, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
What sort of clueless lemming watches this woman’s show anymore? Anyone I know who mentions her is just shallow and ignorant. I love how she’ll say that you should sleep on sheets made out of woven hay, and these wannabes will run right out and buy the things while big old O laughs all the way to the bank? So, I guess these same dim-bulbs would actually believe what He ‘n She Biden put forth? “They said it on Oprah, so it must be true!” What an amazingly stupid nation the USA has become.
Posted by: Bill B | January 19, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Sounds to me like a little bit of pay-to-play politics going on here. Biden, a well-respected politician who knew he would never get enough votes to get the nomination was given his choice of cushy positions in payment for his support for Obama.
Posted by: Oy Vey | January 19, 2009, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
So? I am sure he considered all sorts of arrangements. The President can put whomever he wants in the executive positions. They serve at the pleasure of the President of the United States.
Posted by: jock59801 | January 19, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Well, let’s hope Mr. Biden has a little more diplomacy going for him than his wife does. She did nothing with that little piece of hearsay except ruffle feathers and make people feel less than special. Way to go! Can you feel the change a comin’??
Posted by: foxisms | January 19, 2009, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
Great days to come as we look forward to a resurgent United States under the wisdom and leadership of Barack Obama and Joe Biden, with Hillary Clinton as the finest of Secretaries of State. We can all look forward finally to peace and prosperity again, under the man that is poised to be the greatest President of all time.
Posted by: Obama09 | Jan 19, 2009 4:01:31 PM
———————
HAHAHAHAHAAAAA FUNNY FUNNY FUNNNY STUFF OBAMA09, YOU ARE SUCH A COMIC.
USA prepare for the biggest circus of smoke mirrors and deception ever seen in history of our country.
EVERYONE GO READ UP ON SAUL ALINSKY RULES FOR RADICALS.
BHO has much in store for us.
Change indeed
Posted by: rosemar | January 19, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
who says what: You’re looking for a job and about to be homeless, and I bet you’re going to blame that on anyone besides the corrupt neocons that have been in power for 8 years. Liberals have traditionally been the party that tends to the needs of the jobless and homeless. What’s typical of poor jobless conservatives is that they continue to insanely back the wrong horse. You’re criticizing the guy who cares, and supporting the ones who didn’t and don’t. Not very bright.
Posted by: justsaying9 | January 19, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
I love the liberals. When they get nervous, they start calling people names. They always throw in how stupid the people are who didn’t vote for the popular candidate. We don’t have to have our college professors tell us who’s the best candidate. That’s so funny. You can tell who the liberals are ten miles away. BTW, I don’t watch Oprah. Just go to some of the major news links. You can actually go to your computer and read about it. It has nothing to do with sheets or whatever Oprah’s pushing on her show.
Posted by: wowthatsgreat | January 19, 2009, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
rosemar . ..
Inaugural costs are usually cited as the costs of the balls and festivities. In this respect, despite inflation Obama (approx. $45 million) is in line with the 2005 Bush inaugural which cost $42.3 million. In both cases, these costs are covered by donations.
And yes, for every inauguration there are millions and millions of dollars in costs beyond this that are covered by the government and include items like security, secret service, military personnel for the parade, public transportation, emergency services, porta-potties, restraining barriers, . .. and so on.
Posted by: pefros | January 19, 2009, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Nobody really cares. I’ve seen a few right-wing haters trying to spin this into something, but that just shows how little they really have to say these days.
Posted by: justsaying9 | January 19, 2009, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
wowthat’sgreat . .. isn’t that the sad thing about democracy – the people actually get to vote.
Posted by: pefros | January 19, 2009, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Jock,
I think you mean he can appoint whomever he wants. There is still that pesky little thing called a confirmation hearing. Talk to Bill Clinton about how annoying those things can be. We got stuck with Janet Reno because he couldn’t get an Attorney General nominee through confirmation. He went through two before we got Reno. Lucky us. lol
Posted by: Jeremy | January 19, 2009, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
Did someone say Hillary couldn’t handle the vice presidency?? what’s to handle- sitting in an office with nothing to do but play wii and wait for the big guy to tell you its time to go home for the day– Hillary Clinton- like most intelligent women in this country, want to use our minds, experience and training– to go out and fix what is broken in this world (by the men in charge) Hillary, unlike Biden’s little wifey, has a will of her own and she understands the importance of using your abilities to get the greatest outcome- to benefit as many causes as one is able!! The secretary of state is a position that can make things happen- it requires not only intelligence but “a get off your ass and do something” Attitude- Biden obviously doesn’t have it?? But Hillary is not- nor has she ever been afraid of hard work!!
Too bad so many folks hated her for reasons I do not understand?? she has so much to offer and she can, as most women can, multi-task and get done what needs to “Get Done”
We have had 200 years of men presidents- what is the big “historic” thrill of Obama anyway?? To me and most women- Obama is just one more less qualified man who got the position over the more qualified woman!!
Posted by: earl | January 19, 2009, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
AM A WHITE GUY, AND I WAS WONDERING IS OBAMA GOING TO MAKE MY CAR PAYMENT THIS MONTH? AND THE HOUSE PAYMENT? THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU OBAMA09′.
Posted by: RICK | January 19, 2009, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
The first move was to get Hillary to give up her place in the Senate. The second move is to discredit her appointment. Whats next? If she gets fired from her job as SOS, she has no platform from which to challenge the throne.
Posted by: PeteRoth | January 19, 2009, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
I wonder if Mrs. Jill Biden enjoys Teriyaki sauce? You won’t see the morning coming with that one, oh no!
Posted by: Aaron | January 19, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
whatever. hillary was the best pick for anything obama had. period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Lou | January 19, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Awwww….their trashing our wonderful Messiah! The average guy who almost ascended into the heavens. It only cost how many hundreds of millions to put on. He’s not quite to the angelic great beyond just yet and someone had to rain on our parade!
Posted by: wowthatsgreat | January 19, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Great days to come as we look forward to a resurgent United States under the wisdom and leadership of Barack Obama and Joe Biden, with Hillary Clinton as the finest of Secretaries of State. We can all look forward finally to peace and prosperity again, under the man that is poised to be the greatest President of all time.
Posted by: Obama09
_______________________________
Obama09 can you name me a country that has taxed and spent it way back into prosperity? Economists say that Obama’s economic policies are the socialistic policies of Europe which have had a long history of failing miserably.
Posted by: marco | January 19, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
As a supporter of HRC from the beginning, I have to say I am not surprised. BO has hated this woman from the beginning and has insulted her every step of the way.
Initially, I praised Obama for offering her the position. It’s too late now, but I wish she would march up to his office and tell him to take the job and SHOVE it……
Posted by: opedanderson | January 19, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Did anyone listen to Hillary’s confirmation hearing? I’m glad her talents are not waisted as VP right now.
Posted by: dman 2008 | January 19, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
I just saw the oprah show and I must say that I am very dissappointed in Jill Biden, the context in which it was mentioned was unnecessary, she just tossed it in from left field, Joe looked shock and so did Oprah and when Joe tried to shut her up she just shrugged and said but he did and then continued to talk about it with a what’s the big deal attitude, it came across as very b****y and the audience even picked up on it, Joe looked very uncomfortable.
Posted by: karen | January 19, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
WOW and they only pass judgement on Blagojevich!!!!! blah DEMOCRATS are all the same…
Posted by: ME | January 19, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Jeremy
Yes, they have to be confirmed, but the congress is usually reluctant to deny the President his cabinet choices, unless there is some real problem.
Posted by: jock59801 | January 19, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
what a hoot!
The first oops of many to come. I shocked it came from the politically seasoned Bidens.
By the way, “America’s Song” sucks.
Posted by: moxmox | January 19, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
dman 2008
I agree. I never understood why people thought that Hillary would even WANT to be V.P. What a horrible waste of talent. Senator, SOS, anything would be better than that.
Posted by: jock59801 | January 19, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Interesting in Joe Biden who said Mr. Obama was not qualified, was offered the 2 prime jobs.
Seems his standing with Obama grew after that entire Lawrence Sinclair mess where Biden’s son threw a gay man in jail illegally in Delaware to try and silence him about Mr. Obama’s said copulation with Mr. Sinclair.
Interesting in Hillary Clinton who Mr. Obama slapped around after the primaries in making her beg for money and leaving her with a multi million dollar debt, got the best job in the Obama cabinet, only after that infamous Kate Snow interview with President Bill Clinton in Africa, where he kept telling ABC about the Constitution was the guide to if Mr. Obama was qualified.
Mrs. Biden has let a great deal slip in this in why the two people who said Mr. Obama was not qualified, suddenly got the best jobs.
Think Patrick Fitzgerald can find out if someone has something on Barack Obama.
Posted by: Lame Cherry | January 19, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Hey Rick,
Let’s ask George Bush to make your car and house payment from whatever is left over from the Halliburton raid on our national treasury. Oh, I forgot, there’s nothing left but a 10.6 trillion dollar Bush-Cheney deficit, which our childrens’ children must pay. Thank God for Republicans, it’s a wonderful thing to be able to share our burdens with future generations! NOT!
Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | January 19, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
I think it is noteworthy that the Bidens were invited for an interview in the cosy controlled setting of the Oprah Winfrey show. Oprah Winfrey is a close friend and supporter of Barack Obama. In the live interview, seemingly innocent questions led to Jill Biden accidentally letting it slip that Hillary Clinton is second rate. Oprah knew just how to play it. Was this a slip of the tongue, or a sly maneuver?
Posted by: PeteRoth | January 19, 2009, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
who says what said: I’m looking for a job, about to be homeless and Obama and his rich elite friends are spending 175 million dollars on a party..typical of Liberals
Maybe you should discuss that with the current Pres; if he hadn’t spent the last 8 years running this country into the ground financing a war that didn’t need to occur, you MIGHT be able to find a job!!!
Posted by: mp | January 19, 2009, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
Well, we all know who wears the pants in the Biden family. And it sure ain’t Joe. Jeez.
Posted by: neocon09 | January 19, 2009, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Mrs. Gaffe.
Posted by: Tom | January 19, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
The “Change” is a facade! Obamanation is surrounding himself with all the same Clinton and Bush retreads that have screwing the U.S. for a long long time, even the Monsanto contingent. Wake up people! This is no laughing matter! Watch and see ‘More Change you won’t believe’!
Posted by: Ford Fairlane | January 19, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Hahaha! I love how Republicans are trying to spin this into something big in order to cause dissention. Really patriotic for people who claim “United We Stand”. You guys had eight years to do something good for this nation and you simply messed everythig up; made us look like buffoons and clowns throughout the global community.
Move out of the way, you sore losers, your days have long since passed.
Posted by: Arn Anderson | January 19, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
I doubt Hillary was even his second choice for SOS. I would have put her about fifth on the list.
Posted by: Jim | January 19, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Pete Roth I notice that you entered your own little spin on things by calling Hillary second rate, that is not what was said, Hillary will never be second rate.
Posted by: kim | January 19, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
MP…
Here here!
Posted by: Obama09 | January 19, 2009, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
ANYONE CAN BE A VP!! If you don’t believe me, just look at Palin, or even at Joe the plumber!!! lol…lol However, NOT EVERYONE is able to be a Secretary of State. Now you know why GW or Cheney would never be able to make the grade as Sec. State. Kudos Hillary.
Posted by: Karen | January 19, 2009, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
Arn Anderson – Republicans are trying to spin this? Sorry, but when the Bidens are involved, no spin is necessary. This is another soon-to-be famous Biden misspeak that Republicans have had absolutely nothing to do with. Republicans are just sitting back enjoying the show – literally.
Posted by: Pardon me | January 19, 2009, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Jill Biden sure is a hoot. She just lays it out there for you and makes all that pretense and public face preparation look like it was for naught, doesn’t she? Reminds me of Martha Mitchell, the wife of Nixon’s Attorney General John Mitchell who could not and would not be shushed.
Posted by: D.R. | January 19, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Hey Rick,
No, Obama isn’t going to pay your car payment, that’s your responsibility. Maybe if you managed your finances better you’d be able to pay for your luxuries. You people are rich. Obama not even in office and you’re blaming him for your woes. Who put you in this mess? You people have blinders on. Republicans are a joke. Your leaders are stepping on your necks and you are licking their feet while they do it. I wish I could dole out the prosperity to come only the deserved but I guess you Republicans will have to get some too. Talk about biting the hand that feeds…
Posted by: Obama09 | January 19, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
I loved that Dr. Jill Biden was just being honest and wanting the best for their family to remain close with her Husband and the children with their father. Gob Bless Jill for being a honest woman, mother and wife.
Posted by: Bill | January 19, 2009, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Hillary is the name recognition factor for Obama so I am sure she was aware of this hopefully. I still don’t for the life of me see how Biden was named VP. Oh well. Better for Hillary she got the best choice even being second to VP Biden.
Posted by: Steve | January 19, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
No freedom of speech for Jill Biden.
I want to know what BHO groupies are expecting to happen after tomorrow.
I expect rioting to occur at the inauguration. Another first.
Posted by: worker man | January 19, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Is that what you’d call sloppy seconds.
Posted by: Joe da Plumber | January 19, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Jake –
This is gossip. It’s irrelevant, and it’s not “scandalous” or anything.
I’m just confused as to how you can claim that journalists are all about substance, and feel defiant at accusations of how journalists nowadays are little more than gossip columnists, and then go out and publish something as trivial and substance-less as this — and what’s more: actually try to sensationalize it and try to rile people up, claim to know what someone will think/feel about it, and needlessly indict or embarrass through it.
My own view is that Joe Biden is a wonderful, knowledgeable person and would be an asset regardless of where he was stationed. I’m glad he will be Vice President, I confident that he will continue to affect foreign policy, and I’m glad he’s Obama’s partner in this journey.
Posted by: SS | January 19, 2009, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
That proves it: Biden is stupid. He chose the job with no tasks, destined to be ignored unless the improbable happens. In which case he would loose the next election for being a *******.
He could have chosen a meaningful job where he at least on paper would be qualified.
Posted by: Sylvia Johnsen | January 19, 2009, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
YAWN…who cares?….slow news day?
Posted by: FranklyMyDear | January 19, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
What’s the point of trying to create something that is harmless into something that is hurtful, especially when the Bidens, who are both wonderful, are going to have such a big day tomorrow? Why try to mar their day of celebration or cause them any discomfort, for no worthy reason, on a day and a time that we should hope is filled with so much happiness for them?
I’m not trying to be a sap; I just want them to enjoy themselves. They are a great couple, and I hope they have a great time. It’s ridiculous that the media is trying to make them feel defensive for something that is a non-story, when they should be nothing but happy and proud for themselves and the nation this week.
Posted by: Jen | January 19, 2009, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
so does this mean he wanted hillary to be vp?
Posted by: simplecake | January 19, 2009, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Biden will be worse VP in this history. Hillary will be worse Secretary of State in this history. She, Obama, and Bill Clinton will have some personality conflict. They have never got alone. It is sad that the Democrats couldn’t rid of the Clintons and that the Democrats’ problem. It is just a playing politic.
Posted by: anonymous | January 19, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Is this some big deal?
Posted by: Scotti | January 19, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Wow, scandal of scandals. This is really old news, people. Newsweek already published an excerpt in late November detailing how, after Obama sealed up the nomination, he approached Biden and said, “There’s no question I want you to be a part of my administration. The question is, which job would you like?” That squares with this, and came out a long time ago.
Yawn.
Posted by: Will | January 19, 2009, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Does Hillary care? I think not. Go girl!
Posted by: ridicklous62 | January 19, 2009, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Joe and Jill rocks!!! He is for the little people.
Posted by: Patty | January 19, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
totaly tastless. wimpy lady, with no common sense, and she’s a teacher. Hillary has more class on her pinky finger than both of these two together. Joe got next to zero votes by the public and thanks to Obama he can grow, but with such little lady he can only go lower. She’s a drag and was also second choice if Biden had not lost his wife. We all know Hillary is intelligent, like her or not, which is something this little nerve rat isn’t.
Posted by: zorra | January 19, 2009, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
OK SO WHAT WHO CARES ITS ABOUT OUR NEW PRESIDENT SO PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO BLOW THIS UP OR MAKE IT SOMETHING TO GOSSIP ABOUT THIS ONE WILL NOT FLY ITS ABOUT A NEW DAY OKAY
Posted by: Bonita | January 19, 2009, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
Good to see Oprah already causing headaches for Obama.
Posted by: al | January 19, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
throughout the whole primary season anyone who was paying attention knew that Joe Biden would have been asked to be either Sec of State or Vice President. The same is true about Hillary Clinton once Obama locked up the nomination, so this is a non story and has nothing to do with insulting anyone not does it have a political punch. This is a non story that is just being spun for no reason. I have always been a Hillary supporter and I think she will be a great Sec of State.
Posted by: Bill | January 19, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Jill Biden is a sweetheart, and I have no doubt that she told the truth. That’s the way I understood it from the New Yorker article – Joe could have gone either way. So what? I don’t see what all the flap is about.
Joe and Jill are the best!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | January 19, 2009, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Please don’t make it a big thing. There is no juicy stuff here. They are all part of Team Obama. We like each of them to succeed, now in their respective super important office.
Posted by: gpfgp49 | January 19, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
“I don’t see what all the flap is about.”
Well so far its taken three updates to ‘clarify’!
Around the time Russia invaded Georgia it was obvious that Obama had a huge credibility gap on foreign policy. Plugs just went there so Obama lined up behind whatever he said.
The really story of the VP thing probably wont come out for a while (like Kerry’s with Silky). There was some last minute drama there since the announcement was delayed for two days and was texted out at 2 in the morning.
Whatever it was is probably much more interesting than this partial story. But I dont think HRC was ever in the running.
Posted by: BertieW | January 19, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Here we go! The Dems cant keep there mouths shut.I love watching the bickering……..
Posted by: jon jonsson | January 19, 2009, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm
I believe Hillary could be president in 4 years. By then people will be ready for a real change and all this nonsense will open doors for her even more, so keep it comig Jill.
Posted by: zorra | January 19, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Why is this that big of a deal?
Who cares.
Posted by: Amoreena | January 19, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
I wouldn’t say this is scandalous but it is an unnecessary slap in the face for Hillary. I’m not a Hillary supporter AT ALL! I would prefer her to Obama the snake oil salesman. Obama got a pass the entire nomination process on the press pouring attention on Obama. I want the country to do well and for this reason more power to the President-elect. I just think the idolatry is getting out of hand. Obama will be the first President to be sworn in using President Lincoln’s bible. All prior to him have used either G. Washington’s or their own family bible. I think the only thing we can hope for is that some how the inspirational tone of Obama’s speaking can carry us through the hard times. I remember the warm Patriotic feeling that Ronald Reagan was able to instill when he would speak. I just don’t know if Obama’s style will continue to captivate with his speeches which tend to be short on substance.
Posted by: Mattmon1 | January 19, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
“totaly tastless. wimpy lady, with no common sense, and she’s a teacher. Hillary has more class on her pinky finger than both of these two together.”
She’s a teacher? No common sense? She also is has a doctorate and being a teacher is a very noble profession? Blurting something out she wasn’t suppose to say is way more genuine than sticking to a script like a robot.
While I’m unclear of why the public was kept from knowing this information, I suppose this revels that if Biden chose to be Secretary of State, who might have been the VP choice?
Posted by: Desiree | January 19, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Hillary Clinton is the best choice for Secretary of State. She will actually have important responsibilities.
Posted by: Liz | January 19, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Good thing Hillary is the Secretary of State. The last thing we need is “loose lips Biden” rambling around the globe, especially since lovely wife Jill has turned out to have the same problem controlling her tongue.
Posted by: HC Won the Popular Vote | January 19, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Teachers are people who speak without knowing how to listen.
Listen and learn, talk and teach.
Posted by: jerry | January 19, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
I bet jill biden will be on a very short
leash from now on. I see no major
issue though, heck, if both were offered
to you, which one would you take?
Posted by: spacerook1 | January 19, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Again, reading some of these comments and watching the ABC coverage of this . . . it is no surprise People magasine is the most read magasine in America. That’s the level of complexity and depth many people aspire toward.
Posted by: pefros | January 19, 2009, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Seems like BO has had snags with all of his appointments. What’s up with that?
Posted by: korf | January 19, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
I’m sure there is a great deal of this type of stuff in any campaign. You have a lot of important roles to fill and a number of qualified people to fill them, so you consider all the possibilities. I’m sure Clinton isn’t completely unaware of this. She wanted to be President, not Sec of State. Whether she ended up VP or Sec of State is irrelevant. Her service to this country continues in ever-expanding roles. She can still be Pres or VP someday.
Posted by: so what | January 19, 2009, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Uh, well, this is bigger than you might think. No presidential candidate may pick his cabinet BEFORE he is elected. It’s illegal to do so. Hence why Biden shushed his wife. If someone wants to make a stink, this could be a bigger issue than you would think
Posted by: Ellen | January 19, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Should we believe that all of you that are trashing Jill Biden never in your entire lives said something you have regretted? I am always amazed at how readily some people want to tear down others. So she made a mistake and in the minds of some, she has now become “classless” and “unintelligent”. I feel so sorry for those who find it easier to tear down than to build up. I truly hope that if ever there comes a time in your “perfect lives” when you are in need of empathy, that those who provide it will be better than what you show yourselves to be today.
Posted by: holly | January 19, 2009, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
Jill Biden has revealed herself to be pretty junior league. This is on the same level as petty office gossip. Hopefully for all of our sakes, Jill can learn to be a little more mature and respectful in the future.
Posted by: lifesajourney | January 19, 2009, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
Make sense why the CIA and FBI always say keep your work secret from wives,
And now joe biden in the NEW ROLE will learn this lesson.
AHH WIVES you CAN’T tell or take them anywhere .lol
BTW.. Hillary is just happy to get any role.Who cares how she got it .. i wouldn’t .
Posted by: alan. | January 19, 2009, 7:45 pm 7:45 pm
I can’t believe what I just heard Mrs Biden say on the oprah show. Itjust goes to show that status has nothing to do with class!
Posted by: grannynany6pak | January 19, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
No one is trying to put down teachers. It’s just a surprise that someone like her, A TEACHER, would scoop so low to put down another woman. There was no need for her remark. SHE, opened up this can of worms and no one else. It’s even more of a surprise if she has doctotate degree, as she should be smarter than obviously is. We all know people who have graduated from Ivy league colleges who have horrible vocabularies, so save your preaching Sairee. This is simply some of us not liking what she tried to do, playing dumb and innocent, when she obviously meant to undermine Hillary. Hillary deserves better, and doesn’t deserve the loose comment by this great teacher who should be smarter and more poised.I bet her step children would rather have their real mother, but life happens. Wonder if she likes remark. Maybe we need more of her comments and open doors for Hillary in 4 years. She’s loose cannon and I’ll stick up for Hillary any day, as I have also for Obama. Didn’t know much about her, but now I now I don’t care to. She should apologize to Hillary for playing innocent and dumb.
Posted by: zorra | January 19, 2009, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
I don’t think it was a snub at all.Some people just want to make it into something it isn’t.Joe was asked which job he felt he would be most at ease with.so big deal.I am sure Hillary was asked the same questions about her being at ease with the SOS job and how it will affect B Clintons speaking and donations from foreign countries. They did not try to hide anything they just went on with the interview.Again what is the big deal I see or hear no snub to anyone
Posted by: jojobo1 | January 19, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
To Desiree…
And…I quote…’Hillary has more class in her pinky finger than Joe and Jill Biden put together.’
Desiree…
Have you forgotten during the campaign when Clinton told the world, not once but TWICE, she had to run for cover because she was being shelled by bullets…As the entire world found out, that was a LIE! Is this what you consider “class?”
Heffelfinger
Posted by: heffelfinger | January 19, 2009, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Obama had not even won the presidential election when positions were offered. Can’t choose a secretary of state until he won election. Jill Biden misspoke. Even she seemed to know she had not said it correctly. Just a political gaffe. And is not a biggie. Story is getting more media hype than it should. Just use some common sense when thinking about this.
Posted by: Sharon | January 19, 2009, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Jill, Jill Jill, we prefer you closed lips. Please for God sake, think before you speak.
Posted by: shar2008 | January 19, 2009, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Who cares everyone is happy
Posted by: Tonya | January 19, 2009, 8:16 pm 8:16 pm
Once were out of the financial hole and Iraq we can argue about items of this stature. Until then…get a life.
Posted by: Mike | January 19, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
I’m not getting the big to-do? He offered Biden two positions. He took one, that left the other one open. He offered Hillary the other. If you notice, every one who ultimately campaigned for Obama had be rewarded in some way. Biden, Clinton, Richardson, Ted and Caroline. Kennedy. Noone’s support was free or pure altruism. Everybody wanted something, and everyone in politics always does.
This is really something out of nothing imo, and the kind of trite rumblings that typically have the Democrats snarling at one another in no time. He said, she said nonsense. Pelosi and Reid have already started. I was hoping that this go around they’d have the sense to drop this kind of b.s and stick together and bask in the moment, but its already starting.
The one and only thing the Democrats need to take out of the Republican playbook is supporting each other in public and not let it be known who dislikes who in private. This kind of thing helps no one.
Posted by: Tina | January 19, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
It was a snub to Hillary when Obama and his team always talked about her being on the short list for VP when she was never on the short list at all. I did expect mote from Jill Biden – seems very poor taste- and she seems very cocky and arrogant in the manner that she brought it up. Many of us 18 + million votes will always be HIllary supporters- I wish she had stayed in the Senate- away from the nonsense. Jill and Joe have a lot in common- foot in mouth disease.
Posted by: Angela | January 19, 2009, 8:29 pm 8:29 pm
hellefinger: If I am correct didn’t Obama say he never heard his pastor say the words that were stated on TV because he wasn’t in the pew when he was all along and heard those words for years. Didn’t he also say Ayer’s was a neighborhood guy when Ayers donated money to his senate run twice and Obama had dinner at his house more than one time. Get a grip. Obama didn’t want Hillary as VP because she would outshine him knowing more about politics than he hasn’t learned yet and foreign policy. Biden cannot outshine Obama because he is in the same category.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | January 19, 2009, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
Obama09: Who isn’t as smart as Joe Biden. And Jill should learn from Michelle Obama and keep her mouth closed at all times. The wrong pick was Biden from the start. Hillary would have made a better VP since she is more experienced than Obama and Biden put together both in politics and foreign policy.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | January 19, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
Krissy: Obama won the nomination by corrupt democrats. Dean (thank god he retired} gave Obama delegates from MI and FL that he didn’t deserve and Pelosi went behind the scenes with the superdelegates to give their vote to Obama probably for favors granted. This was a corrupt win for Obama and he knew it because he himself went to the superdelegates also. His picture was in the news with them. I definately will vote Hillary if she campaigns in 2012 so we can get rid of the mess we have now especially Biden and his wife.
Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | January 19, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
To Mariann Pepitone…
Tell me please, if you were addressing some comments to hellefinger or to me, heffelfinger?
If your comments were actually addressed to me, Heffelfinger, how in the world do your comments relate in any way to my comments??? Please explain!!!
Heffelfinger
Posted by: heffelfinger | January 19, 2009, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
I rarely post comments,but I think most of what I’ve read on this blob is useless rhetoric…what’s the point? If we are to survive as a nation, we must come together. Instead of gripping because your candidate didn’t win, or tearing down those who did,let’s all strive to make a difference in this world. Not just for your loved ones but for everyone!
Posted by: kdk | January 19, 2009, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
who cares…
Posted by: 40plusfunnn | January 19, 2009, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
If it’s true that Biden was offered either job he certainly chose UN-wisely. Why would you choose to be a nothing VP over the most important job at this time in history. Secretary of State. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
Posted by: lololala | January 19, 2009, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
This secret is meanth to be revealed.. There’s no reason for Hillary Clinton to be disappointed.. At least, among all others, she was also tapped for the post..
Posted by: News Review | January 19, 2009, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Why would the Biden’s do this? Think before you speak.
Posted by: lois | January 19, 2009, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
With the worlds economies still spinning out of control look at President Obama’s popularity in 6-8 months. The economy will still be in bad shape and his popuarity will tank.It is the nature of our want it now mentality. It “is the economy stupid”as ole Bill said and our government can’t spend our way to prosperity.Only the private sector can make it happen.
Posted by: WETHEPEOPLE | January 19, 2009, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
This was NO SECRET! I knew it because was in the New Yorker article SEVERAL MONTHS AGO!!! Apparently Jill didn’t know it was supposed to be a secret, after it was published there, though it sounds like there weren’t many people who were aware of it, and apparently Joe thought it didn’t need to be broadcast on Oprah’s show.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | January 19, 2009, 9:59 pm 9:59 pm
What a Tempest in a Teapot! My guess is that Obama DID ask Joe Biden what would be his preferred post, and he chose VP. Had he not, perhaps Mrs. Clinton VP. Either way, we have two wonderful and capable people in key posts. I am glad to have them on his team, and I think he is too. No one should feel slighted in the least. Both have a place in history now that is assured. I wish them every success.
As to Jill Biden, I think she is a lovely lady, and obviously a proud and adoring wife. I didn’t think there was anything cocky or arrogant about her, she just speaks from the heart, like Joe. I’ll take that over secrecy and skullduggery any day.
Posted by: Phoenix Lady | January 19, 2009, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
Dr. Jill Biden’s comments were totally inappropriate. She sounded like an airhead, as though the vice presidency and the secretary of state positions were akin to a choice between high school football coach and principal. God Bless the Biden’s handlers in the years to come!
Posted by: Ed | January 19, 2009, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Ed,
Jill Biden is NO airhead! Get a grip, all of you people! Joe is easily qualified to be EITHER SS or VP. I still don’t see what all the fuss is about. I fail to see how this is any kind of insult to Hillary either. You all must be hard-up for entertainment!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | January 19, 2009, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Did I miss something? Never mind what Bill Clinton said, did Hillary even want to be in second place when she was running for 1st place? When putting a team together you put the people who is the best fit for each position. Hillary will do us proud as she probably was taught by the best – Pres. Clinton. No matter how good or how good you think Obama is, the Clinton’s have a track record, good or bad you can actually read, check or remember first hand. When putting a team together a smart person also knows their limitations. Mrs. Biden – good or bad, right or wrong humans do that. Besides, we can always vote them all out in 4 years. Their jobs are only temporary. Can we take their retirement away if they do a bad job? Companies do, they just fire you, unless you are a CEO and have a golden parachute. I wonder how much money the American taxpayer could save? Talk about being “era of responsibility.”
Posted by: Pati | January 19, 2009, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
the constant Hillary put downs by supporters of obama leads me to believe that they do not believe obama is capable of doing the job and that they are afraid of Hillary. Let him be and let her be!! He will do fine and so will Hillary. One does not have to belittle her to make him look bigger. In fact, to me, it makes him look smaller.
Posted by: becky | January 19, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
LOL Demo or Rep
same crap- different funny looking people finding new ways to shake you down and spend your $$$
I am gonna worry about paying my bills
Posted by: ramm | January 19, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
actually Oprah is the loser. She is so transparent and has manipulated many American women for the last time.
Posted by: becky | January 19, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Why would Mrs. Biden mention this on TV. Is she trying to say – my husband is more important to President Obama than Hillary Clinton. Look Mrs. Biden, maybe President felt a loyalty to Joe and he offered him the choice, maybe he thought Joe would take State and make Hillary the VP to be in on all the important meetings, and Joe screw President Obama up and elected to be VP. What do you think about that Mrs. Biden. By the way, my wife thought I should have been the VP. I refused – my golf game is more important to me!
Posted by: Maxy51 | January 19, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Biden reminds of the distant uncle at a wedding reception who gets drunk and wanders around saying embarrassing and obnoxious things all night.Everybody tries to ignore him until he starts getting fresh with women on the dance floor.At which time is escorted outside by some large men.
Posted by: cheney | January 19, 2009, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
I was originally a Hillary supporter and voted for Obama because he was a Democrat and I thought a brilliant and talented man and feel he would be a
a great president. However, I am appalled by the comments made on public television in regard to giving Joe Biden the choice of being secretary of state or vice-president. He would not be
my choice for either job.
Posted by: carol abrams | January 19, 2009, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
As close and Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden are, does anyone really think she didn’t know this?
I really don’t think she cares.
Posted by: Stephanie | January 19, 2009, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
The difference between the two is, she can stay sober longer than him….. But she can’t be trusted when it comes to money…. We’re screwed ether way folks!!!!
Posted by: Lumberman_63 | January 19, 2009, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
You’re right we’re screwed either way. We’re screwed no matter how you slice or dice it. This bunch isn’t very politically experienced. Hillary has more experience than the whole lot of them. Pray hard folks! That’s all we’ve got.
Posted by: wowthatsgreat | January 19, 2009, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
Not only did she insult Hillary, she implicated Obama. It’s illegal to promise anyone a seat for support BEFORE one is elected. She’s a loose cannon, plain and simple. Shame on her.
Posted by: zorra | January 19, 2009, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
It doesn’t matter.
Tomorrow, the moon will be in the Seventh House, Jupiter will align with Mars, peace will guide the planets and love will steer the stars.
This is the dawning of the age of Obama, the Messiah.
Posted by: drjohn | January 19, 2009, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
ahhh… the oprah circus and variety show continues… demonstrating once again the cartoon act that we have voted in!
Posted by: jmknight01 | January 19, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
Biden can’t keep his mouth shut so why do you think his wife would?
Posted by: Sluggo | January 19, 2009, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Hillary has become a big joke. This is too funny.
12 hours until the Messiah arrives. The earth will be saved by this time tuesday!!!
Posted by: jon | January 19, 2009, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
It’s not that big of a deal – just typical politics. Hand shakes and back stabbing, all at the same time.
Posted by: Interested08 | January 19, 2009, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
WHO CARES!
This is such a non-story!!
I’m getting kind of tired of Jake Tapper trying to make a big deal out of nothing. Find some REAL NEWS STORIES. Not this kind of garbage.
And for ABC to make this their Top Story???? Totally ridiculous.
Posted by: McInsane | January 19, 2009, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
If you want to talk “experience”, then Joe Biden has more of it than Hillary, but they are good friends and I expect them to make a good team. It may not be common knowledge that Joe could have had either job, but it was not a secret either, and I’d be very surprised if Hillary didn’t know about it anyway, and I’m sure that if Joe didn’t recommend her for Secretary of State then he heartily approved of it.
The only people who didn’t know about this already seem to be the ones who were ill informed, because the info was out there several months ago.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | January 19, 2009, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
What on earth is Jill Biden bragging about. From what is evident last few months, Joe sure is no diplimat, let alone “top diplomat”. His wife fares no better, sure no help as a perhaps top diplomat’s wife!? Country better off with Joe as VP. HRC sure as hell earn her way to be SofS. Joe can’t get past the primary with more than single digit votes.
Posted by: Cook | January 19, 2009, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm
This is such a non-story!!
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Unless you like the petty and gossip. While Israel is pulling out of Gaza lickety split by tomorrow when the transition takes place, we are subjected to an embellished drama alleging that Hillary Clinton has been slighted on Oprah. It’s been somehow assumed that we news consumers want tabloid speculation on the eve of a historic presidency.
Posted by: kathy | January 19, 2009, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
That was not very nice of her. Big mouth like her husband.
Posted by: Ken | January 20, 2009, 12:02 am 12:02 am
I think most of you people just want to hate to hate….what is the big deal? Did you ever think it really is true and he did have a choice? You must be hard up for some gossip and already on the bandwagon to hate the Obama/Biden team even before they take over and get this country back on track.
Posted by: Erin | January 20, 2009, 1:14 am 1:14 am
The bed-wetting two-year-olds take over the government tomorrow.
Posted by: One_American | January 20, 2009, 1:27 am 1:27 am
You people who keep harping how Hillary was “screwed over,” just need to get a freaking life. She lost. Got it? She lost. Later. Rinse. Repeat. She agreed not to seat MI and FL ***BEFORE*** the primaries, but when her butt saw that she could not win without them, then she tried to sound all concerned about “democracy” and then wanted MI and FL seated. THAT is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth; the rest of the world knew it, and why you Hillary supporters did not get that memo is far beyond me. Having said all of that, I initially supported her in the primaries, but when I saw what an incompetent, immature, ineffective, UNDISCIPLINED campaign she ran against the efficient, mature one ran by Mr. Obama (not to mention the racist, condescending tone taken towards Obama by some of her staunchest advocates like Paul Begalo, the bitter Geraldine Ferraro and others), it was enough to lose my support, and I fully got behind Mr. Obama. I swear I thought all of that was water under the bridge now, and the fact that some of you Hillary supporters are still campaigning for her is truly, truly sad and pathetic. Hillary got over it, why the hell can’t you? She lost. Get over it already. Do yourselves and our country a favor: if you truly RESPECT Mrs. Clinton like you say and believe that you do, quit your delusional bitching already and honor her as Secretary of State. She’ll make a GREAT one.
Posted by: R.E. | January 20, 2009, 1:28 am 1:28 am
Well Jeez…. either Jill Biden is lying and Obama is doing what he does best and throwing people under the bus, or Joe Biden is lying and is doing the same thing.
However, did Jill Biden just prove that her husband doesn’t like to work?
Or is it that Joe Biden seems to think he is better than everyone and can’t admit it.
And for the Right-wingers on here, get a life, you horse didn’t come in, the people spoke! Unless you can come up with why the Republicans got the boot, and you and the rest didn’t vote for your candidate…otherwise shutup…stop your whining!!!
No one can be any worse than the current president that is leaving…by the way where is Bin Ladin still…is Bush going to pull a rabbit out of his hat…. the clock is still ticking!
Posted by: Whyputaname | January 20, 2009, 1:32 am 1:32 am
RIP — THE U.S. CONSTITUTION — 1/20/2009
Posted by: xinunus | January 20, 2009, 1:37 am 1:37 am
It just shows, once again, what a foolish man Joe Biden is. He probably bragged to his wife that he had his pick of offices (and he likely didn’t) and his wife foolishly believed that bombast.
Joe Biden is a silly little fellow.
Posted by: Warner Todd Huston | January 20, 2009, 1:39 am 1:39 am
This story is such good reporting that I had to say something…..”So What”.
Posted by: lanawonders | January 20, 2009, 2:33 am 2:33 am
It’s shameful that Washington is about good ole boy system rather than the Best man/woman for the job. Joe Biden put forth very, very poor efforts in his Presidential run. I’m not sure why he was first choice for Secretary of State or Vice President role….Mrs. Biden needs to display more manners and discretion. HRC has always worked hard and will serve our country as Secretary of State.
Posted by: Sue | January 20, 2009, 3:41 am 3:41 am
As usual, as he has proven throughout his campaign, Obama just threw these two pieces of demo-dung against the wall and whichever one stuck he nominated!
Posted by: Aargh! | January 20, 2009, 3:44 am 3:44 am
“If you notice, every one who ultimately campaigned for Obama had be rewarded in some way. Biden, Clinton, Richardson, Ted and Caroline. Kennedy. Noone’s support was free or pure altruism. Everybody wanted something, and everyone in politics always does.”
–yes, so true. Just another example of Chicago-style pay-to-play politics, that Obama is well aware of. Of course Obama them off, and the media. It’s all for some gain.
Posted by: nic | January 20, 2009, 4:12 am 4:12 am
I can’t believe the level of the discussion here. You sound like a bunch of grade schoolers. Nah nah nah nah. For heaven’s sakes, spend your energy on something CONSTRUCTIVE. Let’s face it. Obama outmaneuvered HRC and won the presidency, despite Hillary & Bill’s monied friends and all the IOU’s they held. So please let’s quit the talk about how Obama needs Hillary. Yes she’s a smart woman, and hopefully she will be an asset to Obama. Now let’s get on with the business at hand.
Jill Biden will need to learn to be more careful in choosing her words and consider their import, just as Michelle did. This is not news. Enough. Let’s talk about what we can do to fix the mess the US is in.
Posted by: CharleneW | January 20, 2009, 4:41 am 4:41 am
Good Old Boy Sexism at its finest. When all the good old boy news people “snicker” about this gaff on Oprah.
Posted by: DD | January 20, 2009, 4:53 am 4:53 am
ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!
Conform or be Crushed!
How much for MICHELLE’s dress?
Record Amounts for Inauguration?
I thought the economy was hurting, Great One. Why don’t you donate your cash, Mr.Volunteer?
Posted by: usa lover | January 20, 2009, 5:10 am 5:10 am
this is great stuff from the liberals -”Jill, Jill, Jill”
You guys really HAVE NO CLUE, do you?
Ha, Ha. This mess will be all yours in hours. Good luck with your emperor who wears no clothes. Once the Kool-Aid wears off, you’ll see…
Posted by: usa lover | January 20, 2009, 5:21 am 5:21 am
What is with the revealing outfits worn by the first ladies? I don’t really care to see all that arm and leg. We already know that Michelle is immature and unsophisticated, but Biden’s wife, too?
Posted by: tina | January 20, 2009, 7:17 am 7:17 am
As a payback to coastal liberals who propelled him on top Obama had to take one of their own very close to pinnacle of power. He picked mild-mannered Joe Bidden who is not going to make much trouble and let him choose. After he chose VP position, that job was taken from table.
Next Obama had to make rust belt faction happy too, so Hillary Clinton got right to choose next… My feeling is that she will have more power in creating policy then Condi Rice who was just glorified messenger. Not to mention hopeless yes-man Colin Powell.
Hey, that’s how politics in Europe is conducted since first public assemblies 2500 years ago. Make enough allies and you rule.
Posted by: Mladen | January 20, 2009, 7:51 am 7:51 am
Somebody should be assigned to keep her mouth occupied and busy…. what a ditzy broad……..
Posted by: gem | January 20, 2009, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Wow!! Such bitterness over an interview…perhaps this is the reason the GOP lost; They should have tried talking of substance rather than tearing other’s accomplishments down….Now ask yourself: Is this what a maverick would do?
Posted by: Trey | January 20, 2009, 9:34 am 9:34 am
I can’t believe Mrs. Biden said that V.P. elect Biden was offered both the Sec. of State and V.P. What is it with these two? How does she think Sen. Hillary Clinton felt when she heard that. Shame!
Posted by: kim | January 20, 2009, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Does anyone rememeber that Joe biden had to step down from running for President many years ago becasue he made remarks that insulted the common man? Jill Biden saying something this ugly and spiteful does not surprise me. This entire Obama Biden ticket is is sickening. I give those dumb enough to vote for Obama one years, and they will see what a stupid mistake they made. Read Obamas autobiography “Dreams of my father” and you wioll see that Obama is a marxist, and has said he “would start a war aginst white people in this country if it were productive,” Idiots voted this man in office.
Posted by: mark | January 20, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am
This isn’t a big deal, but it is funny. Bidens’ gaffes will be SNL and Daily Show fodder for at least the next 4 years. Look, we knew what we were getting – make the most of it.
Posted by: Corwin | January 20, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am
I wonder if Vice-President Biden will be able to recognize the Thomas Jefferson statue . . . or will he pull an Al Gore . . . !
Posted by: Frank Chance Chenoweth, Esq. | January 20, 2009, 11:58 am 11:58 am
“this goes against what Obama folks are claiming now”
Of COURSE it does! Not only have they hung Clinton out to dry AGAIN, but now The Pup’s people are engaging in a SECOND ritual humiliation of The Dumb Blonde — the first being the unexpected onstage mouth-kiss — as a dig at MR. Biden.
It seems darn unlikely that Mrs. Biden said anything she hadn’t been TOLD to say.
Posted by: Belle Starr | January 20, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Jill Biden is a dumb blonde who has no business as a teacher, I would be afraid of what kind of ignorance she would be teaching my children. Hoof in mouth disease should not be permitted in schools. Stay home and open mail for you hoof-in-mouth husband. Boy did Obama make a mistake when he chose you and your husband. Impeach Joe Biden so we can get rid of dumb blonde.
Hillary Clinton has more class and intelligence in her tiny little pinky than you have in your whole plastic surgery body.
Posted by: Linda | January 20, 2009, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
Her Hubbie?
What is this? The National Enquirer?
Posted by: Doctor X | January 20, 2009, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
P.S.
The CCA jobs may serve as a stop gap measure, but the jobs the big corps sent overseas IN ORDER TO FURTHER ENRICH THEIR STOCK HOLDERS, IN ORDER FOR THE KRAPS TO BE KEPT ON AS CEOs, will have to be returned to the US.
Simultaneously, those who obtain those jobs are going to have to learn that jacking up union wages sky high will ONLY GUARANTEE THE JOBS GOING BACK OVERSEAS. No one’s asking them to acdcept minimum wages, but $75./hour? Anyone needing that much, as is the same for stock holders and their being paid ridiculously high dividends, needs to be separated from the job in question and he/she sent overseas instead!
And, most importantly, Jill is a Fox.
Posted by: amenhotep_v | January 20, 2009, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
This is just not the way to start out the administration. This smacks of something catty, and I hope it doesn’t predict tension between Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton, who was the best pick for Secretary of State.
Posted by: Heather | January 20, 2009, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Hey Palin! you might be able to see Russia from your house, but Vice President Biden can see President Obama’s house from HIS house!
Posted by: Democrats 4 Ever | January 21, 2009, 10:22 am 10:22 am
Re: Dr. Jill Biden’s True Admission
Dr.Biden, told the truth on the Oprah show..please re-examine the interview closly and you’l see it plain as day.
I believe there is more to this story, that meets the eye..What I mean, First, there was the incident involding the pay for play, inwhich the obama’s seat was to be sold to the higest bider, and now, we have learned about another forcast. A major job being offered before,the Presidential Primary’s or had election ended.
Sincerely,
Emmery
Posted by: Emmery Jones Jr Medical Records Admin,CCS-P | January 21, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
What I thought was even more interesting than this slip-up was Joe Biden talking about the neighborhood he had to frequent which was a “very rough” neighborhood and that he was one of the only “whites”. So is the vice president to our country’s first black president saying that a neighborhood not made up of white people is necessarily rough? If he were a Republican (or worse – George W.) I bet this comment wouldn’t have been ignored!
Posted by: Jenny | January 22, 2009, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
To the clearly uninformed woman who claimed that Jill Biden is “dumb” who can’t teach…
A few of my graduates had the HONOR of having Dr. Biden as their freshman year English Composition teacher. They had nothing but positive comments about her teaching.
I hate it when people post comments that they know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT.
Posted by: DEteacher | January 22, 2009, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
“Somebody should put a muzzle on Jill Biden before she does more harm.”
Anybody who doesn’t have braces on his/her brain will recognize that Jill Biden would NEVER have said such a thing unless she’d been sent there for the purpose OF saying it.
YOU COULDNT BE MORE RIGHT BUT TELLING THE TRUTH IS STILL A PRETTY GOOD IDEA EVEN IF IT DOES RUFFLE THE FEATHERS OF BILL’S WIFE. SHE WAS LUCKY TO GET ANY POSITION IN THE NEW ADMINISTRATION GIVEN HER 8 YEAR LACK LUSTRE PERFORMANCE IN THE SENATE. SHE ACCOMPLISHED LITTLE, FELT THE GENERAL STRUCTURE (SENIORITY,SENIORITY..) WAS HIDDING HER LIGHT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HER SUBSTANDARD PERFORMANCE. NO, MRS CLINTON YOUR SUBSTANDARD SKILLS AND LITTLE INTEREST IN NY STATE CAUSED YOU TO FAIL. OBAMA WAS GRACIOUS IN RESCUING MRS FROM THIS DEBACLE. SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT SHE WOULD BE A GREAT SEC OF STATE; IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN GREATNESS IS NOT WITHIN HER GRASP THE CLOSEST SHE CAME WAS GREATNESS ONCE REMOVED. GO JILL
Posted by: lavina lyght | January 27, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
‘I am not a H Clinton supporter, but I don’t understand why she accepted Secretary of State when in 4 years she could have ran against Obama and probably won. To know that she was considered after the fact is a real insult to HC.’
the statement was made for just that reason, to insult mrs clinton, who I really don’t believe can be insulted. I also don’t believe she can ever be elected potus; who would lend her money, provide services, want to hear two more years on how she was discriminated against because she is a woman where, if she hadn’t been a woman her lack of experience would have kept her out of the contest?
‘Great days to come as we look forward to a resurgent United States under the wisdom and leadership of Barack Obama and Joe Biden, with Hillary Clinton as the finest of Secretaries of State’.
you may have gotten 2 out of three here for mrs clinton will never be the finest anything. she is not brilliant but merely well educated nor is she creative and when challenged without a script she is paralized. Oh, I get it it’s her experience as a diplomat; bringing peace to ireland, risking death to get information in the balkans that will lift her out of the mediocrity she has settled for all these years.
Posted by: lavina lyght | January 27, 2009, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
I very much doubt that Dr. Biden said that to be rude to Hillary. I’m pretty sure she was just elaborating on the question Joe was answering. Anyone who finds Jill dumb is rediculous. She’s beautiful, intelligent and has a heart of gold for teaching on top of being the ‘Second Lady’.
Posted by: maria | January 30, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am
you’re my fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Malik | February 18, 2009, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm