By Jennifer Parker

Jan 27, 2009 7:58am

Obama Faces GOP Fight on Stimulus Plan

President Obama is going to be meeting with Republican House members and senators on Capitol Hill today because he’s not getting the bipartisan support for the stimulus package that he wanted.

The bill is to be debated in the House today and voted on tomorrow. It could get very few, or no Republican votes right now.

Republicans argue there is way too much spending and not enough tax cuts.It’s unlikely that the president and the Democrats are going to change the package right away.

But as this bill moves through the process, they are going to be working very hard to get more Republican support. So they may take some of the GOP ideas … particularly on business tax cuts, and also drop some of the spending that has really been a target.

For example, several hundred million for family planning services and contraception … and $200-million to refurbish the National Mall.

That type of spending is likely to be eliminated as this moves through the House and Senate.

–George Stephanopoulos

User Comments

Hi Mr. S.- saw you speak on GMA a few minutes ago and thought you hit the nail on the head. It is the CONGRESS that is out of control here, not just these banking firms. They have no idea what they are doing with this bailout, other than throwing money at firms that can still justify a $50 million jet in the light of what is going on in this country.Barney Frank is an absolute joke and the people of Mass. should be ashamed for putting this man in congress-he’s a criminal and should be thrown out. He should be held accountable for this banking and bailout mess, not put in charge of it like he is now. Please, Mr. S., please keep up the good reporting for us regular people out here in America who feel helpless about the whole situation.

Posted by: Jeanne | January 27, 2009, 8:16 am 8:16 am

I liked Bob Herbert’s column today. He basically said why should anyone listen to Republican ideas right now. It was the GOP who got us into this mess.

Posted by: Amoreena | January 27, 2009, 8:17 am 8:17 am

After eight years of reckless spending it cracks me up to hear the republicans whine about spending now. I guess it’s only spending if it’s that other party? Jeanne, as you say that about Barney Frank? Palusen, the one in charge of that last bailout money? Well, he contributed to the big mess as well.

Posted by: Susan | January 27, 2009, 8:41 am 8:41 am

I am a struggling tax payer, I do not have a degree in economics…. As a struggling tax payer I Do understand, if I cant pay my bills, I will have to do without some luxuries some conveniences.
Yes, I could charge a shiny object and it will temporally make me happy, in fact, its the American Way, but at one point, I will have to pay that. So I have learned to wait until I can afford it… I took me a long time to get her but I now sleep well.
When my children were younger, they wanted all the latest and the greatest and the things their children has. Being children, they had no concept of sacrifice, but being their parent, I had to instill those values… This wasn’t easy, but as adults they have a sense of proportion.
Citicorp is just one of many banks that was received billions of taxpayer money. This money was needed for mismanagement, and after receiving the 45 billion dollars and laying off seventy five thousand workers. they company is spending 50millon dollars for a private jet that seats 12. They claim the are selling the old planes to pay for the new one.
Like my children they have no since of proportion and clearly do not want to change they way the conduct business.
Citicorp isn’t the only company, others companies we have bailed out have continued bonuses and their way of doing business after receiving taxpayer billions.
When faced with major downsizing small businesses and regular businesses sell their assets, when I was forced to downsized I had to have a garage sale.
Why aren’t these mismangers required to cut salaries and sell off there assets.? If they are asking for bailouts then their assets belong to us, the taxpayers. There is no accountability!
As a struggling taxpayer, I have asked all my representatives to vote against any more bailouts. Until there is sweeping change. The furniture, the million dollar wages and bounes (never understood the concept whereby someone gets a bonus for failure) aircraft, company residences and all the assets should be become part of the government and auctioned off.
I believe you can make a difference, but this bailout seems to be more of the same….

Posted by: RODDY | January 27, 2009, 8:52 am 8:52 am

It is really tough to know if any of these folks understand economics. It seems they continue to discuss economics in terms of politics. …………
http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/01/27/economic-illiteracy/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | January 27, 2009, 9:02 am 9:02 am

The only republicans that get press are those crying out for “tax cuts” or a personal favorite “permanent tax cuts”.
Republicans I implore you to come forward with a JOBS idea and quickly.

Posted by: Mavsreader | January 27, 2009, 9:06 am 9:06 am

The GOP spent like drunken sailors for 8 years and racked up an unprecedented federal deficit. Their president led the charge for a $750 billion TARP bailout that we still don’t know how was spent. The Republicans have absolutely no clue on fiscal responsibility, accountability or how to restore the economy. While it’s admirable that Obama is trying to build bipartisan consensus he shouldn’t hold his breath. It’s most important to keep all the Dems on the same page.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | January 27, 2009, 9:17 am 9:17 am

He should face a GOP fight! His stimulus package is too expensive and it doesn’t help all of the poor people! It does absolutely nothing to help the elderly and disabled on social security who live on less than $1000.00 a month!

Posted by: James | January 27, 2009, 9:23 am 9:23 am

The Republicans would be wise to push for as many chages as they can get and then vote against the final plan. This Plan has no chance of working and the Reublicans need to distance themselves from it so they can hold the Democrats accountable.
A very large majority (59%) of the American people are concerned that Obama will over spend. The Republicans have the path to regain control of the house and senate by opposing this wasteful and politically motivated spending plan.

Posted by: Larry | January 27, 2009, 9:45 am 9:45 am

the republicansa got us in this mess and it is rather obvious trhey want to keep us there

Posted by: mike | January 27, 2009, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Unbelievable that the only Republican idea is still tax cuts. The Republicans gave 8 years of hugh tax cuts to the wealthy, telling us that they would spend & stimulate the economy. Obviously it didn’t work.
As usual they are just playing politics & not caring about the consequence.

Posted by: kristina | January 27, 2009, 10:14 am 10:14 am

hey Mike,
before you make another stupid statement, try looking up some of the real facts instead of listening to MSNBC!

Posted by: Mike_C | January 27, 2009, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Kristina,
Instead of just spewing liberal talking points, check the real facts!
Ten Myths About the Bush Tax Cuts—and the Facts
Myth #1: Tax revenues remain low.
Fact: Tax revenues are above the historical average, even after the tax cuts.
Myth #2: The Bush tax cuts substantially reduced 2006 revenues and expanded the budget deficit.
Fact: Nearly all of the 2006 budget deficit resulted from additional spending above the baseline.
Myth #3: Supply-side economics assumes that all tax cuts immediately pay for themselves.
Fact: It assumes replenishment of some but not necessarily all lost revenues.
Myth #4: Capital gains tax cuts do not pay for themselves.
Fact: Capital gains tax revenues doubled following the 2003 tax cut.
Myth #5: The Bush tax cuts are to blame for the projected long-term budget deficits.
Fact: Projections show that entitlement costs will dwarf the projected large revenue increases.
Myth #6: Raising tax rates is the best way to raise revenue.
Fact: Tax revenues correlate with economic growth, not tax rates.
Myth #7: Reversing the upper-income tax cuts would raise substantial revenues.
Fact: The low-income tax cuts reduced revenues the most.
Myth #8: Tax cuts help the economy by “putting money in people’s pockets.”
Fact: Pro-growth tax cuts support incentives for productive behavior.
Myth #9: The Bush tax cuts have not helped the economy.
Fact: The economy responded strongly to the 2003 tax cuts.
Myth #10: The Bush tax cuts were tilted toward the rich.
Fact: The rich are now shouldering even more of the income tax burden.

Posted by: Mike_C | January 27, 2009, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Hey the CBO said this program is a sham. You name callers with no clue should read. The CBO said the entire program is way way off and based on failed ideas. You should all be embarassed.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | January 27, 2009, 10:19 am 10:19 am

“Obama and His Magic Egg of Power”
from Hillbuzz
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2009/01/27/this-is-almost-too-crazy-to-be-real-but-we-swear-its-true-obama-has-a-magic-egg-of-power-in-the-oval-office/#comments
Read the whole article, including the info about Odinga.

Posted by: Michelle | January 27, 2009, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Its funny how many people say it was the replicans that made all of these financial mistakes. Does anyone not realize that the Dems controlled the congress for the last couple of years. And THEY passed the TARP funds. And THEY are not turning the other half back in, yet adding another TRILLION to it? To sod lawns, buy condems?
Wake up. The “Change” so far is to maybe close Guantanamo in a year with no plan whatsoever as to what to do with the prisoners there (sounds like a DEM criticism of Bush). To OK states rights to set their own emmisions, thereby making cars cost more and possibly not having them available in all states (actually stupidly funny) and to tell Muslims we are their friends. Which hopefully they all believe. And the grand topper add a trillion to the deficit after campaigning on reigning in spending.
Change needs to be changed before it starts.

Posted by: Tony T | January 27, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Hey Mike – Myth #6 kinda overrides Myth #4 and #9.
And you have to remember that all of this revenue was goosed with cheap money/credit from the Federal Reserve.
End the Fed.
-DaveP Pgh PA

Posted by: DaveP | January 27, 2009, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

RODDY: I agree with you the only problem by not bailing out these idiots puts our economy at risk and the ones who suffer the most are the elderly they have worked all there lives to save a little to retire and enjoy life but if our banks go under then we are in trouble. My mother who is 81 years old lost 50,000 dollars already and she is very worried about her investments and at her age she shouldn’t have to worry like that. I so agree that we need someone overseeing these banks and insurance groups to make them accountable for there actions. My mother is not a big spender and watches what she spends but you think at her age she could have a little luxury but because BUSH and the republican party put us in this mess the elderly have suffered the most. Everyone should write there congressman and demand accountability for all who are bailed out with tax payors money.

Posted by: RJ | January 27, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

TONY T: You sound like a republican true and true come on 2 years compared to 6 years of control by the republican party do the math the republicans have messed this country up good and now Obama has to try and fix it. A trillion dollar pay out compared to Bushes stupid war that has cost us over 4 trillion dollars it is the republicans that have put us in this mess. It was the young people this election that said no more and it will be the young people that decide in the next election who to trust. NOT REPUBLICANS.

Posted by: RJ | January 27, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

And why would the Party of Stupids want to be smarter? AND THE NEANDERTHALS HISSED AND SHOOK THEIR SPEARS WHEN THE HOMO SAPIENS INVENTED THE WHEEL!

Posted by: couplewords | January 27, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

RJ,
I sure hope your never in charge of actually recording anything going on in your own life.
Jimyy Carter & the Community Reinvestment Act, Bill Clinton, Larry Summers (And yes Phil Gramm, a Republican) with the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, BARNEY FRANK with his insane press to lend to anyone with a pulse.
Tim Geithner’s role in the bailouts last year which have failed to produce results.
Plenty of blame on both sides of the aisle. Try to get it right, its really not that hard!

Posted by: Mike_C | January 27, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

This is a global recession, not just an American work stoppage.
Obama and Pelosi are using this “Stimulus” package to push through a very scary power shift to the Federal Government over our Economy. Scare tactics. Until the Global economy resets itself, America’s economy will not recover no matter how much money they print.
Ironically, the only result to this mass printing of money is going to be very high inflation, which will hurt the economy more.
And the media stands by as it happens.

Posted by: Mac | January 27, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

Why not shave a few hundred billion off of the plan and focus the plan entirely on economic stimulus? This bill isn’t just economic stimulus – it contains lots of financial gifts to organizations like ACORN and Planned Parenthood. Unlike the economic stimulus plans passed by Clinton and Bush (which were also hotly debated and opposed), this one goes far beyond trying to stimulate the economy. If it focused solely on the economy, there’d be a lot more support for it.

Posted by: Purple Crayon | January 27, 2009, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm

This plan as is should get No
Republican support!
There is too much “pork” in it and
there appears to be no “end game”!
The new president along with his
Democrat colleagues is now saying it
may take years to have any effect on the
economy. So they get to spend our
money on their pet projects with
no accountability? I don’t think so!
This economy needs a stimulas bill that
will help Now and down the road.
This bill isn’t it.
If the Dems insist on this bill then let
them pass it and take the credit or
blame for the results.

Posted by: reaganfan | January 27, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Obama wants to have transparency…here is his chance.
Post each and every expenditure in that bill online. by line item, with the name od the responsible party for putting it in there, be it Democrat, Republican or Independent.
Let the American People know EXACTLY who thought adding money for birth control or 200 million for the Mall in DC, or even the 600 million for the Digital TV conversion is somehow related to stimulating the economy!

Posted by: Mike_C | January 27, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Their president led the charge for a $750 billion TARP bailout that we still don’t know how was spent
——————————-
Hey hope,
1. YOUR “messiah” did not stand up in opposotion to TARP!
2. YOUR liberal “leaders”, Pelosi & Reid, FAILED to put adequate oversight in place because they rushed this thing through. Also Tim Geithner was a major player in the bail out of AIG, & Citigroup and was also a big player in the decision to let Bear Stearns fail !
Nice to know we have a tax cheat who gets to decide what companies get bailout money and which ones dont!

Posted by: Mike_C | January 27, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Well ………..well this stimulus bill which is more of an IOU from the Democrat Party as a pay back to their thousands of donors and supporters this past November…………..
Look what the Dems are stuffing in this IOU bill:
Republican lawmakers are raising concerns that ACORN, the low-income advocacy group under investigation for voter registration fraud, could be eligible for billions in aid from the economic stimulus proposal working its way through the House.
House Republican Leader John Boehner issued a statement over the weekend noting that the stimulus bill wending its way through Congress provides $4.19 billion for “neighborhood stabilization activities.”
He said the money was previously limited to state and local governments, but that Democrats now want part of it to be available to non-profit entities. That means groups like ACORN would be eligible for a portion of the funds.
The dirty Dems always greasing the fingers that feed them……..sad.
Why not do what’s right for America, for a CHANGE

Posted by: perceptions | January 27, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

It’s nice to see that Obama is trying to taking some steps to fix our domestic and internation problems. I hope that Congress with help shape a stimulus package that will actually benefit Americans in the long run and not just tie us over for a week or so. The war on terror will shift to the countries that are actually harboring terrorist instead of staying in a country that is now self-sufficient. Americans will get adequate health care and education, while we try to help change the image of our country for the rest of the world. One way of doing this is to help eliminate global poverty, domestic and foreign. The Borgen Project (www.borgenproject.org) has some interesting facts about global poverty and how reducing it will help our society. It would cost $19 billion to eliminate global poverty, which is extremely small compared ot the $522 billion the U.S. government spent on our defense budget last year. By eliminating global poverty we are setting ourselves up to have stronger allies or new ones, we open up the doors to new resources and help make our society safer to live in.

Posted by: cougar_gal06 | January 27, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

President Obama has the votes to get this Stimulus passed as it is right now and still he is willing to reach out and listen to the Republicans.
I’d say he is the Bigger Man, and Republicans are pushing the envelope at the expense of the American people.
also,
it’s amusing to read comments that blame our current economic crisis on the Democratic Congress which held control for the last two years.
The effects of a problematic economy may have become “Obvious” over the last couple of years but, Democrats are not alone in putting the country’s economy at risk.
I am not an economist but, I do work with the root of the home building industry. I could see the problems long before the last couple of years. Outrageous, overblown housing prices, loans going to people that didn’t qualify and credit card debt of people living beyond their means.
On top of all that is a leadership that believed that the economy was fundamentally strong.
That all has been going on for awhile now folks… a lot longer than the last two years…
There are Democrats and Republicans with their hands filthy from that mess.

Posted by: braith morgan | January 27, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

The Republicans were right in standing up against this bill. How does a job come from funding birth control? How does a job come from ACORN ? The Stimulus Plan is to help create jobs nothing else. So cut out the PORK and resubmit your plan. If you need birth control you can either A. abstain from sex B. Use birth control. I am a single mom who pays her bills and works for a liiving. I have no problem with the creation of jobs by fixing our highways but also people need to do the work not call in sick, not go on strike, work the hours required not just what you want. America’s biggest problem is we don’t like doing the ugly job. We allow others to do it. This situation is all of our fault. We can also start picking up trash around our city, offering to help eachother so we can lower our costs. Start thinking how you can help yourself and be self motivating. Stop waiting for someone else to figure your situation. Be proactive not reactive. I am a Republican who voted for McCain but support President Obama. I know many want him to solve their problems but he can’t neither could President Bush. They are our Heads of State basically Figure Heads. They are not the MESSIAH. If you so called Democrats truly believe in what you are saying you would stand up and fight for your life yourself. Forget about how you think its everyone elses fault for the life you live. Its your fault. So help President Obama and stand up for yourself. If you lose a job there are others and no it may not be what you desire but it is a job. If you don’t make enough you may need a second job. I did at McDonalds. Pay is decent plus benefits.

Posted by: Colleen | January 27, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

LOL, you liberal puppets….
By all means lets just make this package 2…no 4 trillion dollars…. just keep sloping your pork into it….come on now….
lets be proactive here….lets just give the auto makers 500 billion now so we dont have to listen to them whine & beg in a few weeks.
You guys wanted 200 million to work on the National Mall ….lets make 600 million!!!
come on every one….lets jsut add a few more on to it…

Posted by: Mike_C | January 27, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

I think it’s funny that Obama is giving Rush an audience over all of this. Either way, I think Obama is going to have to give the Repulicans some of what they want.

Posted by: elementaryfinance | January 27, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

4 billion for ACORN?
How is this economic stimulus?
Liberals, you have been had. Or paid off.
Either way, it’s a national disgrace, Mr.Obama!

Posted by: usa | January 27, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

4 billion for ACORN?
Economic Stiumulus?
Okay Obamabots, better load up on the Kool Aid and start explaining this one…
The Treausry guy and his taxes was amusing. This is disgusting!

Posted by: usa | January 27, 2009, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Oh, I forgot…
IT’S ALL BUSH’S FAULT
200 million for contraceptives?
Liberals, come on now. Where does it end? Spend, spend, spend….BROKE!

Posted by: usa | January 27, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

Don’t be hating MY PRESIDENT.
He is God and can do what he wants. You are a racist!

Posted by: kkk hater | January 27, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Stimulus package? Bad idea.
Government abortions? Bad idea.
Gitmo closing? Bad idea.
Tax cuts? Non existant.
Obama? So far so bad.

Posted by: AmericanPie | January 27, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Stimulus Package: sorely needed. Great idea
Government Abortions: bad idea. Good thing he is not proposing them.
Gitmo Closing: outstanding idea. A return to habeus corpus and the rule of law and the constitution.
Tax cuts: coming for the vast majority.
Obama so far: so damn good.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | January 27, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Absolutely correct.. WJ LePetomane!
AmericanPie… you and your sour grapes don’t deserve the name.

Posted by: xycan19 | January 27, 2009, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

LePetomane,
How many condoms were you planning on taking home?
Or were you hoarding DTV conveters?
Or are you looking to retire by riding lawn mowers on the National Mall ?
YEP….Lets all turn our heads & cough as the great liberals shove their idea of stimulus up the country’s collective butt!

Posted by: Mike_C | January 27, 2009, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

“Government Abortions: bad idea. Good thing he is not proposing them.”
LOL…no he is authorizing us to send money to foreign countries so we can pay to theirs

Posted by: Mike_C | January 27, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

“Tax cuts: coming for the vast majority.”
Famous last quotes from President….CLINTON!!!!

Posted by: Mike_C | January 27, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

Let’s see if I have this figured out correctly. We spent the last 8 years under Bush control and 6 years of Republican control of Congress which gave the wealthy tax breaks in order to strenghten our economy. This failed philosophy just put our country in the worst recession since the great depression and cost the Republicans the last election. But these same Republican clowns are now trying to convince Obama and the American people that they have the best ideas on how to fix the economy that they screwed up. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Posted by: PhilBgood | January 27, 2009, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget

Posted by: Abel Tsegga | January 27, 2009, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm

Question? How can Barney Frank get 12 million for a bank in his home town? When he was the cause of Frannie and Freddie going down the tubes and forcing banks to give bad loans.Northing has change they are all looking out for themselves. It should be a true stimlus package not the same old Pork that Pelosi pushes and pushes
How is that stimulating the economy?
There is so much bull crap spending in this bill anyone with half a brain would not vote for it.

Posted by: kaz | January 27, 2009, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

kkk hater, sounds like you are a kkk lover to me. you have that Limbaugh gut hatred that is a dead giveaway as is the pilonidal smell.

Posted by: Paul Wall | January 27, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm

Mike_C posts:
“Government Abortions: bad idea. Good thing he is not proposing them.”
LOL…no he is authorizing us to send money to foreign countries so we can pay to theirs
++++++++
No Mike, that’s not true. Rescinding the so called “gag rule” frees up money for organizations that offer [among other services] family planning counsel to poor nations. They were denied these funds for even mentioning abortion as an option (even in the case of rape, incest or danger to the mother’s health).
These organizations DO NOT advocate abortion as birth control.
Please read up on this before you just spew regurgitated talking points.
Thanks

Posted by: serena | January 27, 2009, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

FIGHT GOP FIGHT CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS this stimulus stinks. You can stop it and if you dont I will be voting against you in 2 years.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | January 27, 2009, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

Stimulus package? Bad idea.
Government abortions? Bad idea.
Gitmo closing? Bad idea.
Tax cuts? Non existant.
Obama? So far so bad.
I agree completely

Posted by: ChicagoBob | January 27, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

This stimilus plan gives my husband and I 18 dollars more aweek. Our health insurance went from 138 to $151.00 aweek, My husband is a automechanic and he was told there are no raises this year. I was told at my job there are no raises this year. exactly what is 18.00 aweek going to do for me. We are already minus 13.00 with the health insurance. That 18.00 is not going to make us spend more money on the economy, we are still going to be trying to make ends meet.

Posted by: bete | January 27, 2009, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm

It is great for people to have opinions, but the opinions should be with ideas, comments or suggestions that will help this country. Time for childish name calling and rehashing old campaign trash talk is long past. People are hurting, families are being destroyed by the financial crisis, and there is no political affiliation, religion or economic status that isn’t impacted in some form or fashion whether it be friend of foe. It may make some feel good to get a few words in a blog to bash the President, Democrats or Republicans, but when tomorrow comes, this nation is still in crisis. President Obama took this burden on and honestly seems to be trying to pull it out. But it is going to take every Senator, Congressman and American who voted for and against to try to be creative with ideas and suggestions vs being divisive and harmful. I challenge every person who blogs on this issue to offer an idea to help. Now with all this said, here are my suggestions: (1) every high school graduate or dropout 18 years and up should be required to spend 18 months in military service, but never leave U. S. soil. This will provide training to millions of young Americans, provide them with health insurance, and most of all teach them discipline and provide a source of self-esteem and self respect. After 18 months, they can decide to stay in the military or to be discharged. If they stay, they can be deployed to the location of their choice if circumstance permit. If they choose to be discharged and it is honorable, they still qualify for the educational and other GI benefits. (2) interest rates for all mortgages, auto purchases and credit cards should be capped at 5% for all banks who receive bailout funds, no exception. (3) Any organization receiving bailout funds should be audited by an outside agency and report monthly how the funds were spent to stimulate the economy. (4) Reduce payroll taxes by 2%. Can you contribute your ideas! I challenge you.

Posted by: michea2345 | January 27, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Why do liberals INSIST on saying the Bush tax cuts were only for the rich? That is a lie. We ALL had our taxes cut and those of us who are married had the “marriage penalty” virtually eliminated. When Obama lets the Bush tax cuts sunset, that $500 ($1000 for a married couple) is not going to make up for it. We will all be paying MORE taxes.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | January 28, 2009, 6:34 am 6:34 am

“When Obama lets the Bush tax cuts sunset, that $500 ($1000 for a married couple) is not going to make up for it. We will all be paying MORE taxes.”
Considering he’s now talking about cutting taxes, that appears to be irrelevant.

Posted by: Silky | January 28, 2009, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Everytime one of you mouth-breathers say the word “messiah”, it conjures the putrid image of you felating Rush, you realize that, right? That’s par for the course, considering the recurring hypocracy of the right. Are any of you people capable of an original thought?
As for “pork”…Obama has made his position clear regarding earmarks.

Posted by: Silky | January 28, 2009, 9:21 am 9:21 am

The Republican party is now playing the role of ‘Obstructionist’s’ under the leadership of Rush Limbaugh. Republicans are intent to make Obama fail no matter what the cost is. The heck with infrastructure projects that will create needed jobs, the Republicans are singing the same old tune of tax cuts for the wealthy. Shameful.

Posted by: Audrey E | January 28, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Silky – If you actually read what he wants to do, they are not tax cuts, they are credits – which is far different & most taxpayers will not be able to take advantage of them. They are not truly tax cuts.

Posted by: ellsbells930 | January 28, 2009, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Obama has already won this phase of the Political Parlor Game. He brought his Oracle of Politics to Washington and he is making brilliant plays. ……….
http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/01/28/political-parlor-games-and-obamas-oracle/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | January 28, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Quit your whining GOP
Obama is doing what people elected him to do: Bringing Chicago politics to the rest of the country. Chicago politicians endorsed him because they knew that he would go along with the program and permit Chicago corruption to extend into the rest of the country.
If Obama (who, as an aside, has wasted no time in reaching out to Muslim terrorist sheltering nations as he promised he would)wasn’t a crooked democrat team player, there is no way that the democrat controlled Chicago machine would have helped him to the white house. We should thank the crooked democrats and all the media supporters for giving us Obama who as POTUS , by sending this country into a depression, will bring back demoncrats into power.
We should ignore those whiny republicans because we democrats got who we wanted as president: a terrorist-sheltering-nations supporter; a far left Chicago-machine corrupt politician who has done well for himself and Chicago politicians who are still surrounding him; a “spread the wealth and control the means of production (through bailouts)” socialist/communist who will bring us to the level of all the other socialist/communist countries so the U.S. will not be prosperous anymore and make other countries feel bad (maybe instead of the 5% unemployment we had under the Bush administration, we will have a 25% unemployment under the Obama administration so that the US won’t look prosperous to other countries of the world and they will, therefore, like us more).
Obama is our new leader and those of us who voted him in are going to get exactly what we deserve…. hey, we’re already getting it. If it means losing our jobs and paying higher taxes, we should still thank Obama for his leadership because he is giving us Change! Don’t forget that we wanted Change!!! We’re getting change; be strong and proud all democrat liberals!
George Stephanopoulos has the back of all of us who voted Obama into office.
We should all praise George Stephopoulos for screwing over anyone who isn’t a comrade, by spewing the democrat playbook rhetoric. Thanks George!

Posted by: JamesJr | January 28, 2009, 11:39 am 11:39 am

OMG!! This is why 1/3 of my income goes to taxes?
“…several hundred million for family planning services and contraception … and $200-million to refurbish the National Mall.”
Bush was bad but this is ridiculous! Give me my money back! I can spend it better than this!

Posted by: Disgusted with Obama Already | January 28, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

This is what America gets for voting for a man without knowing his voting record. God help us.

Posted by: Rich | January 28, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

we should eliminate all taxes for anybody makeing under 100,000 and triple tax the super wealthy,they have raped america for long enough,

Posted by: T | January 28, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Obama, Pelosi and the gang know that the vast majority of Americans are stupid and believe that the Government can just hand out money with no consequences. They’ll get their check and go vote those people right back in office.
They can blame Bush for this all they want, but we dug our way out of a recession caused in part by the tech bubble burst in the late 1990′s by a Bill Clinton sponsored act to lower lending standards for homes. This policy was carried on through Freddie and Fanny.(governemnt ran private lending agencies)
All of this created a long building bubble that is now bursting at a monumental level.
All parties are at blame, but those hearings in 2004 are very telling.

Posted by: Mac | January 28, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

For “T”
If you eliminate taxes for everyone under 100K and tax those who make more than that heavily, what do you think will happen?
A good bet would be that those people who own small businesses that make more than $100K would go out of business. Then there would be a lot of people who would be out of a job.
But you are right, at least then everybody would be on the same level…unemployed. Sounds fair.

Posted by: Mac | January 28, 2009, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

mac—um whatever! no if you tell a business owner there taxes will go up they will invest in equipment and wages to cut how much taxes they have to pay. my brother-in-law hired five more people and gave raises and bought some new equipment so he had write offs on his taxes..that is what would happen because bush gave teh rich and business huge tax cuts and guess what alot of companies are closed have shipped jobs overseas or layed off massively…huge tax cuts for business breeds complacentcie,

Posted by: T | January 28, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

T – Your brother-in-law must be as dumb as you are. There is no way a small business owners would spend more money when they know they are going to be paying more in taxes. They will save that money to pay it to the government. Less investment and more complacency is always the result of higher taxes.
By the way, learn to spell and punctuate correctly and maybe you can find a job so you can pay more in taxes like the rest of us.

Posted by: What? | January 28, 2009, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

Who knew a “change we can believe in” would be higher taxes, $600 billion in hand-outs for “…family planning services and contraception … and $200-million to refurbish the National Mall” and a kinder gentler stance on terrorist Islamic fundamentalists.
Umm…us who voted Republican that’s who!

Posted by: Change we believe in. | January 28, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

what?—ok whatever keep believeing taht republican lie. i have a small cleaning company if i want to save from paying taxes i buy equipment or give out bonus to the two part timers i hire,so i can write that off..that is how it works and if you dont spend it on yourself the government will take it…oh an dthsi is blogging not a english paper,so i type real fast. i donttype for a living so not prcticed at it. i am not a rich republican with all day to sit on my butt why working people make me rich.

Posted by: T | January 28, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

T – You’re telling me you give bonuses to your two part time employees so you don’t have to pay taxes on the money? That is asinine. You give away $10 to save $3. What a bunch of BS. You can only save the taxes that you would have paid on that money by giving it away in bonuses not the full amount you are giving away. That is typical Democrat accounting. Go feed your lies somewhere else and hire an accountant before the IRS catches you. BTW – I work two jobs (one full-time and one part-time) and worked my way through college while working two full-time jobs so you can kiss my not so rich, republican butt. Or to put it how you can understand, kis bi repubiclian bett.

Posted by: What? | January 28, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

ABC LOCAL NEWS BORDERS ON PROPERGANDER(WHERE IS THE SPELLCHECK).In this peanutbutter killer food out break is really not beeing reported to the public in Georgia lik it should be.The elected officals ARE NOT BEING QUESTION. THE LOCAL NEWS SEEM TO BE DOWNPLAYING IN HOLDING ELECTED OFFICALS ACCOUNTABL. Same thing happened in our energy shortage WITH LOCAL NEWS. I ask the rest of the country this republican state is herting the rest of the country! Please help.

Posted by: JAY | January 28, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget

Posted by: Abel Tsegga | January 28, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

what? ok keep up the lies. maybe you need to see a accountant and find out how to hied profits so you dont pay taxes. because that is how the rich people do it. you buy equipment make capital investments and give raises or bonuses to keep from paying it in taxes.. wake up grow up and get smart.

Posted by: T | January 28, 2009, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

We can all judge his performance after the honeymoon is over. We all need to be responsible for the choices and direction we choose. We shouldn’t look to the government to take care of us or solve our problems. Only permanently disabled or handicap veterans should get my taxes for assistance. The current global economic slow down is due to sky rocking energy cost in the last year. Brought on by oil speculations and our friends in Iran, Venezuela, Opec and Russia who wanted to have a voice in our election system. We are spoiled in the USA our energy cost is one of the lowest in the world. The democratics cried the loudest when gas was $4.00 gal. They are on record for stopping every advancement of energy, Nuclear, oil drilling, Coal. We all overspent and ran up credit to false load the economy. We are now in a reality check. The economy is based on available cash to spend and population growth. I want an efficient government to protect my homeland and minimize my taxes so I can spend the excess the way I see fit. All politicians should be limited to two terms and put on the same social security system they have for us. Politicians tell you what you want to hear. They say they can solve all our problems by spending our tax dollars. This only makes them become popular to get elected. This country is in a mental recession from listing to all the negative news and politicians putting down their own country for political gain. I think the government needs a layoff of excess fat and cut programs that aren’t working. Give all working taxpayers and people on unemployment a bailout of $6000 each. If you haven’t paid taxes in the past 3 years you don’t need a bailout.
Is pork barrel money sent to accorn to buy votes any different from the governor of Illinois selling senate seat? The Democratic stimulis package is a joke. I do not want to pay for condoms, Nancy. You can put lipstick on it but its still a porky pig.

Posted by: Russell La. | January 28, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

How much of this is going to ACORN but stated under disguised terminology?! PORK PORK PORK
And as a former Dem, I would like to state: The Dems in Congress got us into this financial mess with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac!

Posted by: Michelle | January 28, 2009, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

How much of this is going to ACORN but stated under disguised terminology?! PORK PORK PORK
And as a former Dem, I would like to state: The Dems in Congress got us into this financial mess with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac!

Posted by: Michelle | January 28, 2009, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Obama doesn’t need votes from the Republicans.
He just wants them to share the blame for this ridiculous dirt sandwich.

Posted by: Michelle | January 28, 2009, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm

I apologize for the double posts. I only pressed “post” once.
Here’s an interesting article from the Washington Times:
BLANKLEY: OBAMA’S “BLANK SCREEN”
Subtitle: Beware of Deception, New Nationalism
from the Washington Times
Link here:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/27/obamas-blank-screen/

Posted by: Michelle | January 28, 2009, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm

Obama has 90 percent media support. And they’re working on shutting up the other 10 percent. He can’t have everything! Obama doesn’t have the experience to have both Houses just bow down without questions.

Posted by: zeke | January 28, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Why does anyone care if Obama has the Republicans on board or not? We already know they are sore losers and want him to fail. Rush Limbaugh said he wants Obama to fail and i believe the rest of the Republicans do as well. They do not care about the good of the country, they care about their party ideology and their fat cat patrons with whom they are in alliance. So I don’t see why anyone cares what the Republicans think or if they are on board or not. They have already shown they are not interested in being truly bi-partisan. To them, bi-partisan means ‘their way, or the highway’.. Besides, isn’t this the party that drove our country over the cliff in so many ways during the last eight years? Since when were they concerned about “overspending”, seeing they ran up multiple trillions in debt during the tenure of George W. Bush when the Congress was also under GOP control. So why all of a sudden is their opinion so important? I believe the mainstream media is complicit in giving too much play to the right wing noise machine. I mean, after all, these people LOST at the polls during the last election. They set up this economic depression we are in, they ruined our international alliances and fostered terrorism by their stupid, short-signted jingoism, so again. WHY are we supposed to care what these un-American hypocrites think? They are not interested in helping out the average citizen. A lot of them should go to jail for the crimes they committed while the GOP was in power.

Posted by: JL | January 28, 2009, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm

T – The only one you are hiding (noticed I spelled it correctly) your profits from is yourself.
JL – George Bush and the great men and women of the armed forces kept the war in the Middle East and away from us here in the U.S. Clinton let terrorism come over to N.Y. when he pulled out of Somalia letting the terrorist have it and did nothing about the attack on the USS Cole in the port of Aden. Clinton also did nothing when U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania were bombed. In Nairobi, 12 Americans are among the 291 killed, and over 5,000 were wounded, including 6 Americans. In Dar es Salaam, one U.S. citizen was wounded among the 10 killed and 77 injured. And don’t forget when a bomb in a van explodes in the underground parking garage in New York’s World Trade Center, killing six people and wounding 1,042 Clinton allows the investigation to stop here in the U.S. allowing Osama bin Laden to continue building his terrorist organization. A Democrat allowed the mess and a Republican cleaned it up. Unfortunately President Bush couldn’t clean up the economic mess Clinton made before the lies told by the liberal press allowed and facilitated an inexperienced clearly weak man to win the presidency. Obama’s first formal TV interview was with the Arabic cable TV network Al-Arabiya were he basically excused much of the America-hating Arab world and said he would bring a more pro-Arab policy to the U.S. Obama is saying terrorism works to change U.S. policy so keep it up. Now you want to criminalize the previous administration? The one that kept us safe? You and your kind are pathetic. We’ll see what mess the next Republican President has to clean up.

Posted by: What? | January 29, 2009, 9:10 am 9:10 am

JL,
You right!
We are strong and liberal democrats and we don’t need the republicans to help us give the change the country needs and voted for. Remember, we wanted Change and we getting change. Had a job? Change! Had money for junk food? Change! Had a dream of getting off welfare? Don’t have to dream of getting off welfare anymore because it aint gonna happen! Change! This country was feeling too proud and fine. We had cars and food and shopping malls and music and McDonalds and not too many people was starving. Now we will have a change. Our unemployment is already climbing way over what we had with the f__king GOP. The Wall st. people know things aint going to get better with the bailout so the market is crashing and companies are firing people…if the stock market knew things going to get better the stock market would not be crashing so bad. Man, things are getting bad we heading to a bad depression. And because the bailout is about welfare and food stamps and not about creating jobs, the democrats will be able stay in power.
You probably right that republicans set up the economic depression we are in, but the democrats will make sure we stay in it. Repubslicans may have ruined our international alliances and fostered terrorism but Obama is making it right by going on terrorist tv and telling them we will do right by them and give them money and support so they can keep on doing what they doing.
We will be able to show countries that the US can be a third world nation too. They gonna love us for being one of them.
Gop out. Dems rule

Posted by: JamesJr | January 29, 2009, 9:34 am 9:34 am

I kind of thought I was in business to make a profit.
That would be the liberal way, though. Work hard to make sure you don’t make a profit.
How long will people work harder to make less? Not long. I’d rather just go get a Government job and work less to make less.

Posted by: Mac | January 29, 2009, 10:29 am 10:29 am

What some don’t realize is that as the owner of a moderate sized small business, I had better makes a very good profit. The people that work for me count on that paycheck. It’s a co-dependancy thing. I need them to produce and they need me to manage it. If the Government does not allow me to make a good profit in order to save money for slow times, I cannot afford to pay workers through the slumps.
My people have house mortgages and car payments, if I do not make any money and barely make it, the first down turn that comes along forces me to lay them off. Then they lose their house and car.
We can discuss this all day long, but history has proven that tax cuts actually increase revenue to the Federal government. Those are facts.

Posted by: Mac | January 29, 2009, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Mac,
Man, you just don’t get it. We democrats don’t care about you troubles. We wanted change. We wanted people to suffer. We like it when people suffer because they vote democrat. Then democrats work they magic and blame republicans and people suffer more and vote democrats. We Democrats LIKE it when people have hard times…. THEY VOTE DEMOCRAT. Aint you paying attention? You miserable but we democrats like it that way…. keep talking …we like to hear it.
Course tax cuts help business. We know that. Tax cut will motivate the man to create companies and jobs. We know that, but it don’t help the democrats get or keep control by keeping people hurting.
Brother, all you pretty talk about hurting make us DEMOCRATS HAPPY!!!
We love that George S is __horing for Democrats…. don’t now how he is getting paid, but we know he is getting paid by ‘tuking for the democrats. Thanks George S for servicing the dems for the team.

Posted by: JamesJr | January 29, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am

The tax and legal structure put in place under the Bush administration did benefit the rich. Too many of them apparently, although aware of the right thing to do, instead allowed their greed to get the best of them and made short-sighted, selfish decisions. When Obama said we are all to blame for “collectively failing to make the hard decisions,” in part he was referring to this behavior on the part of the rich and the failure to stop it on the part of everyone else. It makes no sense to wrangle over which party was to blame for what. There are rich on both sides. That sort of divisiveness is a tool the campaign consultants used. Now its time to give it a rest and use our bipartisan system as it was designed, as a check and balance. If the republicans have legitimate grievances with the stimulus package, let them itemize their objections and suggest more effective replacements. They would be serving the public good in doing so. If on the other hand, they simply are being obstructionist in order to make political points, they are delaying the passage of a bill whose effectiveness is diminished the longer it takes to pass it.

Posted by: colinalcarz | January 29, 2009, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

colinalcarz,
GOP aint obstructing nothing. We passed the bill. Gotta pay attention Man.
Dems had the votes and we passed the bill. We dems can do whatever we want without any GOP votes. How they obstructing anything?
And, who cares how GOPs vote? We dems are doing whatever we want because we don’t need GOP votes.
Where you getting your information, bro?
Bill passed without GOP.
Or do you just like calling names?
Ob-struction-ist. I can go for that, even if it don’t mean nothing and aint necessarily true. You go, bro.

Posted by: JamesJr | January 29, 2009, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

The bill passed the house but has not passed the senate. You may be forgiven for not being aware of these little intricacies of our system as you may be for thinking I was name calling. We have yet to see if the senate becomes the site of practical, constructive criticism on the part of the GOP or if in fact the basis of their arguments are ideological rather than practical.

Posted by: colinalcarz | January 29, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Colinalcarz, You forgive me for not being aware of intricacies. Big of you man!!!
What if the GOP doesn’t give criticism? Who cares. We democrats don’t need their votes to pass the bill in the senate. We have the power to call for a vote. We have the votes. The GOP can argue ideologies or practicalities (see man, I can use them big words too), and can disagree with provisions all they want, but we democrats have the votes. We do what we want.
You afraid of passing the bill without GOP support? Why Man? The bill does what the dems want it to do….spread the money from the richer to the poor, support social programs, provide for contraceptives, make it look like we’re doing something for the little people.
Make the little people think we care about them. You know the game.

Posted by: JamesJr. | January 29, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

THE REPUBS ARE GONNA FIGHT AND DEFEAT OBAMA

Posted by: JANDJ | January 29, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

HES GONNA FEAR THE REPUBS LIKE HE DOES RUSH

Posted by: JANDJ | January 29, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

yeah, I wasn’t gettin your sarcasm or duplicity or whatever rhetorical device you are usin there.
Appear to be on one side but make arguments for the other… thing. I’m out of the loop on your style of discussion bro.
Frankly however, I don’t think the stimulus package is about the appearance of “doing something for the little people” I think it does something for them. Dems may roll with the numbers they have, but that may not be the best thing for the country. Having bipartisan support is its own reward, but it also means broader-based support at the implementation level plus the more people come to ideologically buy into a program for improving the economy, jobs, and protecting the planet along the way, the better.

Posted by: colinalcarz | January 29, 2009, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

colinalcarz,
Rhetotorical device. I like that. Yeah, I use rhetorical device.
I like you Man. I get you.
You want it to look like the GOP had input so that if the bill sends this country deeper into the dirt we dems can say it was a bi-partisan thing. Good thinking, but we strong dems know what we’re doing and can stand tall without blaming the f__king republicans. Bunch of obstructionists anyway.
Like you say:We rolling with the numbers, we tell people we are saving the planet, we are letting people believe we are helping with the economy and jobs.
But, you wrong if you think we need the GOP to help implement because we have the power and they want to eat, they do what we say. But if they help implement, when it gets screwed up, we can always point at them, right?
Like I say, I get you Man. You go, bro.

Posted by: JamesJr | January 29, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

colinalcarz,
Rhetotorical device. I like that. Yeah, I use rhetorical device.
I like you Man. I get you.
You want it to look like the GOP had input so that if the bill sends this country deeper into the dirt we dems can say it was a bi-partisan thing. Good thinking, but we strong dems know what we’re doing and can stand tall without blaming the f__king republicans. Bunch of obstructionists anyway.
Like you say:We rolling with the numbers, we tell people we are saving the planet, we are letting people believe we are helping with the economy and jobs.
But, you wrong if you think we need the GOP to help implement because we have the power and they want to eat, they do what we say. But if they help implement, when it gets screwed up, we can always point at them, right?
Like I say, I get you Man. You go, bro.

Posted by: JamesJr | January 29, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

I don’t think you really do get me. I don’t think the GOP should get on board so they can be blamed if things don’t go well. My whole point is that this crisis is beyond partisanship. We need both sides because it will take both sides. We can’t let divisiveness continue. That was a tactic for election purposes, it doesn’t serve as well now, even though you could say there is always an election. The object isn’t to find blame if it fails its to make sure it doesn’t fail. Most of the pork provision on this bill are long standing hold overs from the past that are just coming up for votes. I don’t mind omnibus bills, both sides use them, but the compromises that inevitably come as a result have to be made carefully and for the country not the home-state constituency’s best interest. Not this time anyway.

Posted by: colinalcarz | January 29, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Man, oh man, you are either new to politics or very experienced.
Either way, I get you. Believe it.
You talk pretty. You talk like you think we democrats really want to hold hands and snuggle with the GOP and make things good.
Bro, we don’t want it good. We democrats want it really bad. We want people needy and wanting to be helped out with social programs. We want people thinking we care and the stuff in the bill is good and will help them and that “pork provisions are long standing” and don’t mean nothing. We dems want the votes that come from the needy and hurting and failing.
Here’s a secret: We used the “crisis” to get elected. We knew what we were doing and we have the power now. We want the “divisiveness” to continue because if anything goes wrong or takes too long to get what we want, we can always say that the GOP is a bunch of obstructionists. We Love Divisiveness because we dems know how to use it to make people think we the good guys.
You bore me. I’m outta here.

Posted by: JamesJr | January 29, 2009, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm

That the crisis played in “our” favor is beyond question, so I suppose “we” used it. But I’m sorry if I don’t share your cynical attitude about wanting people needy and government dependent to get votes, that’s like suggesting “they” want republicans to be southern evangelical “christians” because then they’ll vote as a bloc for conservatives for their positions on social issues. Or “they” want them to be wealthy business owners dependent on government de-regulation so they will return the favor and vote GOP. I’m probably naive, but I think people have become sick of thinking either party deserves their loyalty either for providing subsidization, entitlements,etc. or for relaxing rules and regulations that favor greed. I’m not so closed-minded that I can’t see merit in the ideology of a given party. If the dems have been using divisiveness and dependence to win votes in the past, the time for that is over. The GOP has its forms of corruption as well and it should reform too. Unfortunate that you won’t be seeing this. I appreciated the exchange.

Posted by: colinalcarz | January 29, 2009, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

$820 billion: Recently passed stimulus plan.
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
Political priorities by the numbers. Read more about it on the BORGEN PROJECT website (borgenproject.org)

Posted by: Yelena | January 29, 2009, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Shame to be a Republican. Republicans should not get any money from this stimulus plan. They should cut their own spending. Republicans do not need help. All House Republicans voted “No” for this stimulus bill. They rather see people dying on the street than helping them. Poor people do not have money to cut spending! Tax cut alone can not stimulate the economy! People are jobless! What tax cut will do for them? People are scared and will not spend even if they have little more money. Somebody must spend correctly to stimulate the economy. I see that Republicans do not or do not want to understand! Republicans are best in attack, blame, and lie.

Posted by: uhh | January 29, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

Wake up America!! I am registered as independent and am so sick of the democrats blaming the republicans and the republicans blaming the democrats. They are all to blame. They don’t care about us – only themselves. This financial problem started with the Clinton administration and Bush did not help it. Democrats have already forgot about 9/11 – so sad for your short memories. Instead of everyone being so ignorant – start reading your history and exactly what is in the so called stimulate package. IT IS MORE GOVERNMENT SPENDING and has nothing to do with stimulating this country. I don’t care who or what spent so much in the past – it is more spending that WE CANNOT AFFORD now. Do you really want to spend money on a ATV path when people are losing their jobs!!! This current congress and senate have their heads in their @#!. You keep wanting to blame Bush for all your problems, but this congress has been in place for a couple years and have done NOTHING right. Start getting mad and demanding more from our politicians. They work for us not themselves. This stimulus package is a joke and if Americans don’t start to wake up it is going to be a shame. Stop blaming the presidents of the past and start demanding more from your congress and senate. WAKE UP!!

Posted by: Diane | January 29, 2009, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

To continue from my last post – Stop being Democrats and Republicans and start being Americans who care about this country and the people who have made it a great country. Stop blaming and start doing something. GROW UP!! Read exactly what is in this stimulus package and honestly look at yourself in the mirror and say this is going to stimulate this country. There is nothing to stimulate anyone. Do they really want to create jobs? Then bring all our jobs back from overseas. Give the corporations a tax break if they keep the jobs here and penalize the corporations by extreme taxes if they send their jobs overseas. Why doesn’t congress want to deal with this problem? Start demanding answers and help from our elected officials.

Posted by: Diane | January 30, 2009, 12:11 am 12:11 am

George – Why does ABC, NBC and CBS NOT report all the garbage that is in the stimulus plan? Why do you not tell us everything that goes on and only what you want us to hear. Isn’t the news in this country suppose to be non-biased. Aren’t you suppose to just report the truth and not just what you want to sway people’s opinions. These news stations are a disgrace.

Posted by: Diane | January 30, 2009, 12:20 am 12:20 am

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Mike_C posts:
“Government Abortions: bad idea. Good thing he is not proposing them.”
LOL…no he is authorizing us to send money to foreign countries so we can pay to theirs
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No Mike, that’s not true. Rescinding the so called “gag rule” frees up money for organizations that offer [among other services] family planning counsel to poor nations. They were denied these funds for even mentioning abortion as an option (even in the case of rape, incest or danger to the mother’s health).
These organizations DO NOT advocate abortion as birth control.
Please read up on this before you just spew regurgitated talking points.
Thanks
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Serena,
I had not looked at this blog in a few days, but your ingnorant reply demands a response!
You may “THINK” this is not about abortion, but your wrong! Indeed itis you that NEEDS to read up before you “spew” on a subect you do not understand!
First, Lets see how the Media Reported it….
From CNN (Hardly a proponent of conservative views!)
“WASHINGTON (CNN) — President Obama struck down a rule Friday that prohibits U.S. money from funding international family-planning clinics that promote abortion or provide counseling or referrals about abortion services.”
ABC :
“President Obama signed an executive order today reversing the ban that prohibits funding to international family planning groups that provide abortions, as first reported by ABC News.
President Barack Obama is expected to sign an executive order Friday reversing the ban that…
President Barack Obama is expected to sign an executive order Friday reversing the ban that prohibits funding to international family planning groups that provide abortion. The move is expected to draw heat from the right, but is a victory to abortion-rights groups.
(AP/ABC News)Under the hotly debated “Mexico City Policy,” the U.S. government could not provide funding for family planning services to clinics or groups that offered abortion-related services overseas, even if funding for those activities came from non-government sources. It essentially barred recipients of U.S. foreign aid from promoting abortion as a method of family planning. ”
Wall Street Journal :
“WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama will issue an order restoring U.S. funding for international family-planning groups involved with abortion. But he chose not to do so on Thursday, the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.
President Obama was breaking with the tradition set by his recent predecessors to make an abortion-related order on the anniversary of the Supreme Court ruling, another example of his attempt to support liberal policies he believes in while trying to defuse emotional political debates.”
MSNBC :
“WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama on Friday struck down the Bush administration’s ban on giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide abortion information — an inflammatory policy that has bounced in and out of law for the past quarter-century.”
Now The White House itself…..
“The Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2151b(f)(1)), prohibits nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) that receive Federal funds from using those funds “to pay for the performance of abortions as a method of family planning, or to motivate or coerce any person to practice abortions.” The August 1984 announcement by President Reagan of what has become known as the “Mexico City Policy” directed the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) to expand this limitation and withhold USAID funds from NGOs that use non-USAID funds to engage in a wide range of activities, including providing advice, counseling, or information regarding abortion, or lobbying a foreign government to legalize or make abortion available. The Mexico City Policy was in effect from 1985 until 1993, when it was rescinded by President Clinton. President George W. Bush reinstated the policy in 2001, implementing it through conditions in USAID grant awards, and subsequently extended the policy to “voluntary population planning” assistance provided by the Department of State.”
It was in the beginning and still today about ABORTION and the concept that many feel it is wrong for the US to fund foreign abortions!
I dont care what side of the policy you support, IT IS ABOUT ABORTION!
So next time you READ FIRST, before you “spew”!!!!

Posted by: Mike_C | January 30, 2009, 8:45 am 8:45 am

The GOP should stick to making peanut butter – the perfect metaphor for what the party represents. …………..
http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/01/29/republican-peanut-butter/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | January 30, 2009, 9:08 am 9:08 am

Obama faces GOP stimulus fight…. what kind of headline is that… I’m not a republican and i have some serious issues with this bill… get rid of the pork spending and put more stimulus spending plain and simple

Posted by: alakazan54 | January 30, 2009, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

It is hard to listen to the content of the stimulus bill and see any real short term stimulus being generated from this spending- and I thought this was the intent of the whole bill..wrong!
For all the rhetoric on pork this bill contains lots of it even though it is being covered up by lots of basic B>S>.and making us feel guilty if we question the content of the bill..no change!!!

Posted by: Don | January 30, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Each and every comment by Demint made it clear why the GOP continues to run as a herd of Happy Hoovers – while we lost 102,000 job just last week – relying on the Heritage Foundation – no matter how wrong every projection it made has turned out – denying reality no matter how bad it gets – message to GOP – My 401k tells me quite clearly how little credibility you have! Also, I think an awful lot of reasonably paid jobs come from renovation of the National Mall – truck drivers, landscapers, seed farm laborers, and just maybe our capitol wouldn’t be such a disgrace. When American want to see how competent DC is at governing we have only to look at how well they take care of DC! The GOP objection to stimulus is that they haven’t figured out a way for their cronies at Halliburton to run it yet! They ruined our infrastructure, healthcare and education systems with a break-the-bank privatisation plan and now we’re broke and we still have no health care – why is anyone still listening – 30 years of middle class decline on a mantra of tax cuts, wage cuts and war profiteering.

Posted by: abql | February 1, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am

This bill will fail, Repukes have stated they want Obama to fail. They only care about the rich.This bill had too much pork. The President has fulfilled his campaign promises,the repukes have stopped it.In other bailouts, Wall street can spend freely, while autoworkers have to acount for every nickel. Maybe the President has to call a National Emergency,federalize banks,nationalize all oil wells. Take charge until this crisis is over. Let credit unions manage loans, they are non-profit. Federal money must be lent with the authority to prosecute thieves and unauthorized spending.

Posted by: Electricric | February 1, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

I don’t quite understand why more tax cuts are required. How much more money do the wealthy need? It’s a shame that Wall St and corporate executives have taken all those bonuses over the years while bringing the world’s economy to halt. I’m sure the amount in bonuses just from the financial firms would be plenty to stimulate the economy so why are we considering more tax breaks? I can’t help but think the money that was pilfered from every unethical mortgage transaction went to bonuses for the extremely wealthy, it’s as if it was just taken from our economy and now we, the tax payer have to replace it.
What’s going on here?

Posted by: Center City Dave | February 2, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

The bill ha some flaws which Obama is addressing i.e. the reason for the closed door meeting last night with his democratic party. However, the republicans, as predicted will not give him an inch. They seem to forget that these problems came to be while they were in power. Where were their ideas then. How come they did not press Bush for some answers like they are doing to Obama. And Mr. Mc Cain, weren’t you the one who said “the economy is sound.” Now you want the whole plan revised. With your ideas, I don’t think so.

Posted by: Pat Napolitano Marietta. Ga. | February 3, 2009, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

I thought I’d blow a fuse when the Bush admin.didn’t regulate these executives paychecks if they recived TARP funding. They did it anyway because they still had control and these execs were huge contributors to these GOP folks running the show at the start. Did you know it used to be a FELONY to BET on the stock market when you didn’t OWN the stock you were betting on to fail? Talk about TOXIC We must address THIS ISSUE before another taxpayers dime gets sent in another millionaires pocket.

Posted by: faxbot88240 | February 4, 2009, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Republican Party = TOTAL FAILURE PARTY. They have done TAX CUT for more than 8 years under Bush’s administration. What do we have now? JOBLESS. That’s all.

Posted by: oh | February 5, 2009, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

Republican Congress actions explains WHY McCain failed big time in the last election.

Posted by: mmm | February 5, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

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