Jan 14, 2009 9:47am

On TARP, PEBO Threatens to Veto

Yesterday at the Democratic Caucus meeting at the U.S. Senate, President-elect Barack Obama made it clear to Senators that if either they or the House passed resolutions expressing disapproval that the second half of the $700 billion in TARP (Troubled Asset Relief Program) funds be dispersed, he would veto such a resolution.

The threat was first reported by Sen. Joe Lieberman, Ind.-Conn., who told reporters about it after the meeting, and confirmed to ABC News by an Obama Transition Source who emphasized that Mr. Obama does not have a "veto strategy" — in essence, that he is working with Congress to provide reassurance that the second half of the funds will be spent differently than the first, to win their votes and not bully them into voting for it. And that does seem to square with what Democrats on the Hill are saying.

Still, this is his first veto threat as president-elect.

– jpt

User Comments

The Senate will have to decide who/what holds more sway for them on the bailout: Obamamania and the pull of a glamorous president-elect, or the anger of most Americans toward expending any more cash through the TARP program.

Posted by: matt | January 14, 2009, 9:56 am 9:56 am

matt: “the anger of most Americans toward expending any more cash through the” BUSH ADMINISTERED “TARP program.”
You seem to have left a couple words out of that thought. I fixed it for you above.
I’m happy to see a party where the Congress is willing to do it’s constitutional duty as a check on the President. They should certainly respect Obama’s mandate and not stand in the way (even Bush got his tax cuts and education policy through Congress after the cantankerous election of 2000), but questioning and probing is entirely appropriate.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 14, 2009, 10:28 am 10:28 am

I think this story needs a rewrite for clarity. If these are “sense of the House” resolutions then why does Obama care? And you cant veto a “sense of the House” resolution.
And Liberman said that there was “no veto strategy”. So how is a veto threatened?
Let PEBO be PEBO!

Posted by: BertieW | January 14, 2009, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Concerned in OH: “Strange… I didn’t know President-Elect’s could veto anythhing…”
Which simply shows that you know far less about how the government works than the folks in Congress (or the typical 7th grader). Obama will be President at the earliest possible time the bill would reach the President’s desk, when a veto would be applied. It is entirely appropriate, and frankly obvious, that he would be the one to discuss with Congress the likelihood of a veto.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 14, 2009, 10:34 am 10:34 am

matt, the issue is with how the $350 billion left of the original $700 billion TARP money will be spent. The money is already allocated, it will be spent. Obama wants to be able to put his administrations’s ideas into play with how it is spent. If Congress doesn’t vote to switch the remaining money over, it will be spent in the same mostly useless-to-the-economy way Paulson & company set it up to be.

Posted by: Lydia | January 14, 2009, 10:39 am 10:39 am

The problem is not with TARP itself. The problem is that Bush released the first large chunk without accountability measures. This is what has Congress and the public, rightfully so, upset. Obama is serving notice that he will not be run roughshod by Congress.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | January 14, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am

The problem with TARP was how Bush handled it and the total lack of accountability. Obama will do it right. Obama has a strong mandate from the American people to get things done now. Dems in Congress should rally behind him and not impede his swift action.

Posted by: hopesprings52 | January 14, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Ok Jake is there any truth to the British story that Bush had to declare a state of emergency for the inaugeration to clear unlimited funding for the big O, because his big day is going to cost the taxpayers 110 million dollars, maybe more???

Posted by: samhiguchi | January 14, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am

samhiguchi: It’s not “the Big O’s” big day, it is more for his supporters. And he has a larger number of supporters than any presidential candidate, ever, in the history of the US, so I’d expect his inauguration party to be a bit pricier since it is a lot bigger. Of course, complaining about ‘extravagant’ inaugurations is a pretty de rigor whine:
“As recently as last week, officials put the inaugural celebrations’ cost at $40 million-plus and said they would be the most expensive in history…Since then, the inaugural committee has come under some criticism as extravagant…”
I think they brought the office price down in the face of bad press, but that price is about what I’ve seen bandied about for the ’08 inaguration (although I’d expect it to at least reach $80M since it will have twice as many people and be in 2008 dollars).

Posted by: jhw539 | January 14, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Oops – I missed my point: The quote in my last post was from a 2004 article about the Bush inauguration…

Posted by: jhw539 | January 14, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

He is not even a President yet. It sure is strange. Glad I didn’t vote for Obama.

Posted by: anonymous | January 14, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Concerned in OH: “I wonder how many green jobs could be created with the $110M bill for the 2 minute inauguration?”
You repeat a rumor as if it is fact and throw out another one – that the inauguration is “2 minutes,” implying the unverified $110M number (looking around, I only find $40M cited although I personally double that based on the cost of the ’04 inaguration and the fact that current planning expects over FIVE TIMES as many attendees) and not a 4 day event.
State a rumor as fact and in the same sentence imply the whole budget is for a 2 minute event and not a four day festival of historic size. Cute. I’m sorry but I don’t feel an urge to debate the minutia of your past distortions.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 14, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Concerned in OH: “The 110M (British Pounds actually not USD) comes from an article linked to on the front page of drudge.
The 2 minutes was being kind, from the same article:”
The Drudge report is hardly a reputable source – I recall you getting quite excited about their big scoop on that ‘Black man carved a B in my face for Barack!’ story.
You clearly implied the full budget amount was for the 2 minute ceremony. This is laughably false. There is a huge music festival on Sunday, a ball on Monday night, the inauguration and a 2 hour parade on Tuesday, and a national prayer service on Weds.
In addition, you seem entirely ignorant of the tax windfall being brought in – ranging from the complete sale of every hotel within 100 miles to the massive influx of tourist spending (restaurants are going to 24 hour operation, bars have received permission to close 2 hours later, etc.). Not to mention the large portion of the cost privately funded.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 14, 2009, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

JHW:
All besides the point.
The question is what is the rationale for the government spending ~$160M for this event? And milking a gullible populace for probably 5 times the amount?
It shows poor leadership to have this amount of austintation.

Posted by: BertieW | January 14, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

I think you Republican whinners are getting rediculous with your criticism of this event.
If the money the Inauguration Committee is getting already from private donors like myself (just like we did during the elections) is anything to go by, Obama will have money left in the coffers of the Inauguration Committee after the $160.00 millions is spent.
The tax payers will not shell a dime for this Inauguration.
Salaries paid to the Secret Service and Police and Homeland Security Agents is already budgetted and will be spent even if just the Bushes and the Obamas show up for the Inauguration.
The city governments and businesses in and around DC will have a windfall during this Inauguration.
So stop whinning Bozos.

Posted by: Steve_NJ | January 14, 2009, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

“The tax payers will not shell a dime for this Inauguration. ”
There is no way this is the case, you cant just hand wave at it. They have raised nothing like that amount.
If you google “Palin, wardrobe” you get 1.2 million results. That was 150K of private money, and look at the ridiculous tempest in a teapot. Not $160,000,000 of public money.

Posted by: BertieW | January 14, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

BertieW: “The question is what is the rationale for the government spending ~$160M for this event?”
First, the government is NOT spending $160 million for this event. Actual net *government* expenditure will probably be lower after accounting for private support (via donations rather than the traditional lobbiest funded galas) and the direct increase in tax revenue. There is no need to falsely represent the numbers to legitimately debate the core issue.
Second, the purpose is the same as it always is, from Johnson’s inauguration during Vietnam to Reagan’s funeral: To increase international stature by showing off the stability and cohesion of the US government.
And to actually maintain national stability and cohesion. Such events do serve to reinforce the national identity. Our nation shies away from nationalism (quite rightly in my view), but it is valuable to occasionally display to the world a sincere support of our government. You won’t have such an inauguration event in Iran, even with their paid supporters. A crowd that would make Musolini blush at a handoff of power that would only occurs over his dead body is an American tradition repeated every 4 – 8 years. And that is certainly noticed.
It is also traditional that every inauguration is pilloried by the opposition as too gaudy, inappropriate in a time of war/famine/recession/etc.

Posted by: jhw539 | January 14, 2009, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

160 million is an extreme claim for the price of the inauguration, which is actually at 48 million with over 24 million coming from donations so far. The price is very steep and the donations haven’t covered it yet, but please, let’s not up the ante to almost 400% of its cost.

Posted by: kat | January 14, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

I may have been responding to major hyperbole with slight hype of my own. Let’s say that 160 million is over 300% of the 48 million dollar cost of the inauguration, rather than close to 400%.

Posted by: kat | January 14, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Brock the Crock THINKS the zillions about to descend on DC are there to cheer the coronation of His empty birthday suit.
But the ostensibly-adoring throngs MIGHT all toss their shoes, then stay in town for the General Strike against His bait-and-switch baloney.

Posted by: Belle Starr | January 14, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

“The question is what is the rationale for the government spending ~$160M for this event? And milking a gullible populace for probably 5 times the amount?”
A two for one deal on lies.
First the public’s cost for the inauguration (ie: security) then what has been raised by the inauguration.

Posted by: Ryan C | January 14, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

“But the ostensibly-adoring throngs MIGHT all toss their shoes, then stay in town for the General Strike against His bait-and-switch baloney.”
Belle who cheered for Republicans lustily during the campaign now poses as a lefty calling for a general strike.

Posted by: Ryan C | January 14, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

“If you google “Palin, wardrobe” you get 1.2 million results. That was 150K of private money”
That wardrobe (and her family’s) was bought for her by skating campaign finance rules put in by the top of the ticket.
That from a self claimed reformer.
Right wingers hate it when their hypocrisy is exposed far and wide.

Posted by: Ryan C | January 14, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

“160 million is an extreme claim for the price of the inauguration, which is actually at 48 million with over 24 million coming from donations so far. The price is very steep and the donations haven’t covered it yet, but please, let’s not up the ante to almost 400% of its cost. ”
The Daily Mail gave the figure today.
And a total amount raised by Obama of 30M pound or about $37M.
Not to say that the Daily Mail is 100% right, but what is your *current* source for these costs?
And the Federal Government doesnt collect sales tax or occupancy tax so they are never going to recover most of these costs.

Posted by: BertieW | January 14, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

“Time for you to stop blaming everyone else and blame those responsible…”
Oh the irony! The above from a right winger who blames today ill’s on a President Elect yet to take office and a President from 8 years ago.

Posted by: Ryan C | January 14, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

“”If you google “Palin, wardrobe” you get 1.2 million results. That was 150K of private money”
That wardrobe (and her family’s) was bought for her by skating campaign finance rules put in by the top of the ticket.
That from a self claimed reformer. ”
Ryan you are so far in the tank its effecting your thinking.
The $150K was private donations. And its a good thing it was spent because apparently the press felt it was necessary to report on everything she was wearing.
The $160M- that is number that is a 1000 times larger- is public money.
Being spent in a way that is more lavish and over the top than ever before. Is there any reason why the bars cant close at a normal hour instead of being extended indefinitely for Obama’s bacchanalian?
Obama just got done telling us this was the worst economy since the invention of the steam engine, perhaps he could cut things back to only $100M or $120M.

Posted by: BertieW | January 14, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

“The $150K was private donations.”
There were political donations to the party.
The party paid for her clothing vs the McCain campaign because campaign finances laws prohibited buying personal items such as clothing. The author of that legislation? John McCain.
BTW, did she pay taxes on the $60K in travel expenses for her family she charged to the state of AK?
“And its a good thing it was spent because apparently the press felt it was necessary to report on everything she was wearing.”
ROFLMAO……$200K+ to outfit Palin and her family was a good thing!
“The $160M- that is number that is a 1000 times larger- is public money.”
“Being spent in a way that is more lavish and over the top than ever before.”
Lavish and over the top is opening the Mall to the public?
“Florman deals specifically with the inauguration ceremony at the Congress, which is relatively modest. The surge in spending is partly because of the Obama’s decision to open the entire Mall to the public”

Posted by: Ryan C | January 14, 2009, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Interesting how the con-servatives are all riled up about $160M but had no problem with spending ’5000′ times that amount on an immoral war. The words ‘hypocrisy’ and ‘denial’ their goals and mantra. Yes – a republican state of mind.

Posted by: Mangey1 | January 14, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

“”Being spent in a way that is more lavish and over the top than ever before.”
Lavish and over the top is opening the Mall to the public?”
Its multiples more than anyone else has ever spend and is completely out of context of the times.
Why do they bars need to stay open all day and all night for this booze soaked bacchanalian?

Posted by: BertieW | January 14, 2009, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

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