Pelosi Defends Family Planning Spending in Stimulus Package

Is anyone more despised and/or disgusting than this woman .. it’s hard to think of one – well ok, Barney Frank is right up there! 2 pieces of filthy trash

I find it hilarious that Nancy Pelosi can insult President Bush about his intellectual capacity. Her defending “planned parenthood” for multi-million dollars of the bailout is ridiculous!!! If that is going to happen, then I want the option of paying taxes. I am pro-life and believe that our devaluation of life (killing millions of innocent children every year) is directly linked to the massive ethical failings of our congressional representatives and business leaders.
Pelosi is exactly what is wrong with a Democratically controlled congress and white house. Spend on pet projects (planned parenthood) to twist the moral fabric of our nation and screw up the youth so they are exactly like the baby boomer (60′s) generation. This is the group that first got us started down the road of “we are all victims” and taught my generation to hold out your hands and we’ll fill it with the tax dollars of actual hard working Americans. Spread the wealth.
You all might take a look at what happens to countries that provided universal health care (Germany, Japan, and Canada). They are collapsing under the cost, restricting what people can go see a doctor for, and implementing higher co-pay to discourage people from going to the doctor.
What a joke! And when you tax “the rich” they leave the country and go somewhere else with their billions of dollars where the government will take away less. It amazes me that you (reporters and congresspersons) think we are such uneducated idiots that we don’t see how you are screwing up this country! Thanks again, California….or should I say the largest welfare state in the union!!

So how does this directly stimulate the economy? Less mouths to feed?

I really cannot believe an elected official can, with a straight face, say something even remotely close to this. Perhaps Nancy is looking to advance some pleasurable stimulii that will take our minds off of the unpleasant stimulii we are about to receive.

What is next, euthenasia. This lady is sick.

I am just sickened to my very core! “…….. part of what we do for children’s health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs.” How does getting rid of future children before they have a chance to be born help their health and education Ms Pelosi?
If this is how the Democrats wish to waste taxes, I think it’s time we stopped paying. Heck, it worked for Timothy Geithner!

Nancy Pelosi has convinced me. I’ve flipped totally to the new socialist regime. I embrace our new foreign policy of feeding birth control and abortions to the rest of the world. Once these other countries see our superior logic they will embrace this. It is in their interest after all. Al Gore may not have to come there and impose carbon taxes on them which would just starve them anyway. We have not done enough however. I’d like to see same sex marriage imposed on these pesky breeders so we would have zero population growth and a lesser chance that others would cross our borders and be shot by the fascist agents trying to keep them from our new comprehensive free health care. Strike that last bit…..everybody gets in. We need to hire thousands, no millions, of people to issue plane tickets to get them here. Wow, full employment. I also want Khalid, “Miranda Rights” Shaikh Mohammed set free in San Francisco and George Bush executed for war crimes. I want Gitmo made into a new Disney destination where kids can throw fecal matter at “Jack Booted” torturers and everything is free, even the Kool Aid. People who have benefited in the past through the corrupt capitalist system will be required to fork over anything over cost plus in their ventures to get in and play.

So Ms Speaker….We need 600 Million more dollars for a plan that is ready to go 100% online in 3 weeks? How can that be with all the public service annoucments of the past year in addition to the coupon program that has already taken place?
Exactly how many more people “need” help in being ready for this widely advertised change?
Ms. Speaker, this was a very very simple problem to solve when compared to the issues facing us now. If you could not handle this appropriately and now claim you need 600 millions more dollars at this point in time, exactly why should any Amercian believe you have the understanding or capability to handle the current crop of problems at all?

“So how does this directly stimulate the economy? Less mouths to feed?”
Less unwanted children (or poorly raised children), who are prone to requiring money from the government to raise. What she’s getting at is that it tends to be the case that accidental pregnancies are more likely to happen with poor, uneducated, lazy people who are too stupid to use contraception or can’t afford it. It’s absolutely true. She’s being straight up. Easier access to free contraception will lead to less needy and, certainly less stupid people. The math is actually pretty easy.

What a country. Too bad her parents did not use contraceptives or the abortion policy she is so proud of..

Glenn Beck hit righ ton it with this quote from then Pres. Garfield.
“The people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless, and corrput, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness, and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave, and pure, it is because people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature.”
– James A Garfield
The we in this case are those people in
California’s 8th congressional district. It covers most of the City and County of San Francisco, California
I guess that explains it all !
Oh, by the way Nancy, are those car companies ready to pay back on those loans? The clock is ticking on that 3-month window that they were expected to gain with it. Any Progress to report to the American people? Oh…let me guess, you have no idea what is going on with that money either!

First off, her Bishop needs to excommunicate her. As a Catholic, birth control and abortion are both sins. When will the Catholic Church hold these people accountable. Second, expect more of this from these people. They fancy themselves ‘social engineers’. And we probably will see forced abortions for babies who will need ‘special’ care. Pelosi, Reid and Obama are all Godless monsters. This is what they are going to do with our tax money…they may as well flush it down the toilet. It is going to be a very bad 2-4 years. Whatever happened to no taxation without representation? This woman and her ilk surely do no represent me or the vast majority of American.s

The truth is coming out about Obama…..the U.S is in for a downward spiral and fast if they pass this stimulus package. But they will not listen to the American people…the majority of us do not want all this spending and we want it to stop!…but will they listen…NO!

Can we concentrate on the economy instead of this Global warming crap we are spending money on….there is not enough facts about if the world is really warming up…has anyone ever heard of the earth going thru a cycle? Why won’t Gore debate the issues and lets put these scientist under oath and hold them to the truth…..lets see how many of them would then want to go in front of a committee and under oath

“Can we concentrate on the economy instead of this Global warming crap we are spending money on….there is not enough facts about if the world is really warming up…has anyone ever heard of the earth going thru a cycle?”
Not at the pace it’s warming now, no.

“Why are the people who are so opposed to social programs also opposed to birth control that would decrease the need for these same programs?”
They don’t do things logically. They do things as they’re told or emotionally. In this case, they’re being told by the church.

“Why are the people who are so opposed to social programs also opposed to birth control that would decrease the need for these same programs?”
Shawn,
It actually quite simple, these programs are not keeping people from needing social services.
Take a good long look at those requiring the bulk of those services. Do you honestly think that they would actually use birth control if it were handed to them?
Silky,
“they do as they are told, or emotionally”… like most of those who are having too many kids or kids without a stable home are do things intelligently and would use birth control at all?
Condoms are hardly “expensive” by anyones standards. If your having sex that much that you can’t afford condoms, its your behavior that needs modification, not our social policies or my tax burdens.
this arguement is essentially the same one liberals have presented for decades on the “war on poverty”. Hundreds of billions of dollars have spent since the 60′s on this and the result has been a joke. Simply throwing money at a problem to continue to implement a failed policy is not what we need.

Who has abandoned logic?
Is it logical to love humans and yearn to destroy those that aren’t born or too weak to fend for themselves?
Is it logical that those most concerned about overpopulation are those that seem to have the most possessions and space?
Is it logical to want to preserve a world and destroy the human race?
Is it logical that those that complain about conservative irrationality generally have no foundation in history, philosophy, and the classics?
Can the feeble minds of liberals today hold a candle to Aquinas, Bonaventure, Boethius, Augustine….

The converter for digital tv is about $60 – people had years (yes, years) to plan for it and save up for either a converter box or a new television or subscribe to cable/satellite. Those who waited have only themselves to blame. The government started sending those coupons out over a year ago.
Can we please stop coddling people in this country.

“If birth control is good for the economy by reducing the number of people dependent on the government, just think what controlling immigration could do!”
Not much. Are you going to dig ditches?
Posted by: Silky
What a hopelessly racist and ignorant statement! This kind of thinking is wrong on so many levels and shows blatant disrespect not only for all of those out-of-work Americans (too lazy to dig ditches?) as well as the people who risk their lives to come here for a better life.

Glad my God is in heaven and not in the white house!!!

Just heard the Dems are going to reward ACORN (you remember them) with a couple of billion dollars from this stimulis bill. They were good and faithful servants to this President so why not give back. Shame on them all.

“Why are condoms a pain honey? See your providing the very answer as to why such a program will NEVER yield any tangible results. Why do we still have such a large teen preganancy problem? We have had programs in place to give away birth control in this country for years! ANSWER: people dont like to use it!!!!”
Because teenagers are embarrassed by condoms. Adults are not. And people are addicted to cigarettes. To compare their place in a person’s financial priorities with that of condoms is a perfect demonstration of your detachment from the reality of this subject.
“if your poor and in tough times, STOP having unprotected sex!!!!”
Further proof. People are not going to stop having sex. Period. Particularly, not the poor and uneducated.
“How easy it is to just sit back and say I don’t need a condom, I can get pregnant and the govt will send me a check!”
No way. Maybe some of these hood rats and white trash types consider that as a silver lining AFTER learning they’re pregnant, but there’s no way anybody thinks like that prior to getting pregnant.
You give adults condoms and they’ll use them.

Wow.. and she speaks for BHO ?
Wow..
I am offended by the statement she made that the states couldn’t afford kids.
WhAT IS SHE TALKING ABOUT?? Never has the ‘state’ paid for my kids..
She states that as if we are already a commie state !!

Btw, I’m a guy, so calling me “honey” is a little creepy.
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LOL….Sorry, but being a guy and calling yourself “silky” is VERY creepy!!!!

“You give adults condoms and they’ll use them.”
just a few contradictory statements there…
Your assuming people will use a condom if you give it to them. Yet in the same breath, you claim these same people cant control themselves enough to regulate their own sexual behavior.
LOL, im sure where your living, but the last thing todays’ teens are is “embarrased” about anything sexual.
Those that are, are not the ones we need to be worried about!
This entire issue will always boil down to one simple thing. Personal Responsibility! The more you make easier for someone to continue a reckless behavior, the more problem will result in that behavior.
It is the same thing as watching someone you know is chronically unemployed; taking the check the govt gives them, and buying alcohol and cigarettes instead of food and daily essentials.
There will always be a certain percentage of the population who will choose the wrong path not matter how much aid, help & guidance you give them.
In this case, the majority of those having unprotected sex are not going to suddenly switch to using birth control just because someone tells them its free.
By the way, take look around, you can find condoms for less than $1 each and as low as 50 cents or so each.
HARDLY a bank breaker!

Pelosi is smoking crack. She really trying to ram her pork down the repulicans throats. The stimulus will pass but without the Republicans. THe democrats have Pelosi and the like to blame. She thinks she is running an exclusive country club. SHe has better get over herself.

In concentration camps, the first thing the nazis did was killing the children and the elderly as that was “cutting costs”.
You get more of a bang for your buck, according to Pelosi, to keep people on Section 8 and food stamps, then it is to give tax cuts to the working people. In other words, let’s keep the poor poor and just wet their whistle with an extra $20 a month on food stamps than it is to give a small business owner a tax cut so he/she can hire another person and expand their business. This way, the dems make sure that they get re-elected in 4 years…
It’s so devious.

“LOL, im sure where your living, but the last thing todays’ teens are is “embarrased” about anything sexual.”
I understand you never got laid as a teenager, but anybody who did will tell you that condoms were a little awkward. Particularly, to aquire.
“Your assuming people will use a condom if you give it to them. Yet in the same breath, you claim these same people cant control themselves enough to regulate their own sexual behavior”
Yes, I am saying that many people would use the condoms. Even those who “can’t control themselves enough to regulate their own sexual behavior.”
“This entire issue will always boil down to one simple thing. Personal Responsibility!”
Yeah, that’d be great and all, but people are people and are going to do what they’re going to do. I prefer to address reality, not the way I wish reality was. You can address reality and make a good effort to educate at the same time.
“The more you make easier for someone to continue a reckless behavior, the more problem will result in that behavior.”
Huh? Having protected sex is now “reckless?” Wow.
“There will always be a certain percentage of the population who will choose the wrong path not matter how much aid, help & guidance you give them.”
Yeah, and those are exactly the people we want to get the condoms to so that they do not procreate.
“By the way, take look around, you can find condoms for less than $1 each and as low as 50 cents or so each.
HARDLY a bank breaker!”
You are clearly not at all acquinted to the life of those living paycheck to paycheck and below.
Mike, you’re beginning to strike me as somebody who has never lived among a population of people. Ever.

Silky-
“Because teenagers are embarrassed by condoms. Adults are not. ”
I have to say, this is quite a stereotypical statement…….
but what do I know? I’m just an uneducated, white trash, hood rat teenager, right? Maybe if I had the intellectual caliber of a liberal like yourself, I could understand how the world really works.
Thank God we have people like you to keep our country in line. I’m relieved to see that you can be so level-headed even after interacting so much with the barbaric common folk!
If only the mob and their innumerable babies would isolate themselves in the wild, where they belong… maybe then we could stop throwing money at all of their petty problems and finally deal with some real issues, you know, like eliminating conservatives… (What a great way to make room for all the immigrants!)

Flashback: Pelosi on the possibility of pork in the stimulus bill

Watch as she raises her hand and pledges that there will be no pork in the House stimulus bill. That was then:
Transcript:
BLITZER: In this nearly trillion dollar legislation that youre talking about right now, can you assure the American peopl…

Donna,
The best planning is to return to a more moral, family oriented society, where virtues are the mainstay of a community.
You, like most socialist democrats, support action without responsibility or consequence!
I think you can see the full meaning of my message, but I will expound on the single issue you addressed:
The best family planning, does not involve contraception, it involves will power; that is to say, abstinence. Our biggest problem is the youth, unwed, and generations of welfare recipients, who overwhelmingly lack morality, family values, and positive role models.
You have become dependent on my tax dollars, and are encouraged by the social programs you depend upon, and have developed an expectation for, perhaps even consider a right, while my family suffers.
I have taken responsibility for my family, why should I have to be responsible for yours?
Having said that, I am not opposed to lending a hand, but there is a big difference between helping out your neighbor, once in a while, and supporting them.

Steve,
You’re full of it. Canada is not collapsing under the cost of health care, nor are we restricted in terms of who we can see and for what. The same with your co-pay statement. Utterly FALSE. You are spreading propaganda and using fear to control. Cut the crap, you’re not Bush.
You’re also in the MINORITY as an anti-choice supporter. Wake up!

Congress has proven, once again, to be incapable of learning from previous mistakes and following President Obama’s rhetoric of “change we can believe in”. Instead, they have resorted to loading the bill with pork and special interest favors while largely ignoring the President’s requests for investments in infrastructure.
http://www.beyondthemargin.net/2009/02/productivity-vs-pork.html

We in this country enjoy freedom of speech. It was guaranteed us by our Founding Fathers specifically so we could have unrestricted political discourse. However, in my opinion, unrestricted does not mean abrasive or uncultured. I suggest that if you wish to bring someone to your line of political thought it is more effective to use simple logic rather than insults and name calling. So please let’s keep our discussion a little more civil.
Having said that, I would like to weigh in on the issue of the “stimulus package.” First I agree that many of the provisions of the package have nothing to do with stimulating the economy. President Obama stated in one of his speeches that if the government simply spent money it would stimulate the economy. I disagree with that approach. Spending a lot of money indiscriminately will spur the economy on the short term but the long term effects of the deficit would be devastating. The federal spending must be leverage to the point that one dollar of tax money spent delivers multiple dollars of effect to the economy. Simply giving money to Planned Parenthood or ACORN or the Unions will not stimulate the economy over the long term. What creates wealth in our country is business, not government and not saving money by limiting our population. Encouraging new businesses to develop and older business to compete on a global scale is what will stimulate the economy.
There are several ways that businesses can be stimulated. Lowering taxes seems to be the most popular among the conservatives in this country. I agree to a point. Our corporate taxes are the highest in the world except Japan. Japan may not be the best example of how to get out of an economic recession. However, lowering corporate taxes will make our businesses more competitive on a global basis and will be a greater stimulus than giving money to Planned Parenthood or ACORN. Planned Parenthood may have been taken out of the bill, but having it there in the first place shows a lack of knowledge concerning the economy or a desire to fund a favorite organization or both.
Tax breaks for businesses have often been referred to as “loopholes” and are seen by many as evidence of graft and playing to the advantage of the wealthy, but they have been a time-honored method of encouraging businesses to behave in certain beneficial ways. We should be providing tax breaks for research and development particularly in reference to developing alternative energy sources and more efficient use of the energy resources that we have. This country has lost its long held advantage in this area and if we are to maintain our lead in new products we must renew our support of R&D.
Going back to the issue of Planned Parenthood and birth control, which seems to have dominated this discussion so far, let me make a couple of points. First, contraception is the act of preventing conception or the fertilization of the egg. Birth control is the act or processes of preventing the birth of a child. There are 9 months between these events. In my opinion the provision in the original bill to give huge amounts of money to Planned Parenthood was to provide abortion services not to purchase and distribute free condoms. President Obama has made it clear that he favors “abortion on demand” and this provision was his attempt to fund that program. It has nothing to do with saving the states money. You will see in the near future Congress debating some sort of bill that overrides all state’s laws governing abortions. In order to take the “cost” out of the abortion bill and placing it in the Stimulus package, he would have made the abortion bill more acceptable because the abortion services would then be “free”.
Let me make myself clear, I am an opponent of abortion. I believe that this is one of the most heinous practices that this country condones. The United States was founded on the principle that all persons were created equal under the law. All of the liberties protected by our Constitution are predicated on this principle. An inseparable companion principle is that individuals are important, that individual life is sacred. If individual life was not sacred then freedom and liberty have no meaning. Your right to free speech which allows you to participate in this discussion without fear of reprisal is predicated on these joint principles.
Now the question is when does this sacred life begin? Abortionists claim that it begins at birth, but I take issue with that assertion. When life begins is dependent on how you define LIFE. The text book definition is life exists when the entity in question consumes nutrients, metabolizes the nutrients, expels waste and responds to outside stimulus. This is the universal, scientific definition of life. If you accept this definition of life, then you must accept that life begins at conception: that a Zygote or fetus is a separate, individual life. Some people claim that the fetus is part of the mother, but this is easily proven incorrect by performing DNA analysis. The fetus’ DNA is distinctly different than the mother’s. And if the parents are human then the result is a human life. Therefore abortion is killing a separate, human life. No question about it. By applying the principle that our nation is founded on, delegates this practice to the realm of euthanasia, slavery, the holocaust or any other practice by a people or government that does not recognize the principles in our Constitution that we hold so dear.

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