President Obama Today: Gitmo & Torture Executive Orders, Special Envoys

So now we are adopting the softer gentler please don’t hurt me approach. I’m sure the terrorist will say “Oh, now we can tone it down, America likes us now”.
These places are the “head on the post” warning to terrorist. Look forward now to even bolder infiltrating, murder and mayhem by the relentless be-headers who prey on our every weakness. This is a total insult to every person and the family’s of every person who have been KILLED by the jihad that will not rest.

Promises made during the campaign, promises now kept.

Now Obama is endangering American lives at home by dismantling CIA intelligence methods. This is extremely dangerous and shows that Obama will yield to left wing loons in place of doing what it takes to protect us.

Where have all those voices been when the terrorists be-headed innocent people and showed them on TV.
God help us all.

No, this should be viewed as honouring those that have be killed by such terrorist groups. A president that says we are above the bullying, and we are above dismantling another countries right that our country may keep ours is a president we all should look up to. The old saying, 2 wrongs don’t make a right applies here.

obaba is so kind, he says he will sit down with our enemys and talk to them.
He is so “out-of-touch”. We aren’t talking to the kids on the playground fighting…..we are talking to KILLERS of Americans and the more they can kill the better they like it. Wasn’t this what his friend Ayers said???

William, to which actions do you refer? Handcuffing our intelligence agencies and putting us all at higher risk to lose our head in front of mom & dad or committing torturous acts? I don’t advocate torture, but shutting down our holding areas is a disaster waiting to happen.

Reason – “America has honor…”?
Where is America’s honor in severing the life line of the unborn while they sleep in their mothers womb? This is not honorable…this is torture. Over 1 million tortures a year. Whom out there can say they are not sickened by this?

I think some people posting on this blog have been watching too much 24 on Fox.

“William, to which actions do you refer? Handcuffing our intelligence agencies and putting us all at higher risk to lose our head in front of mom & dad or committing torturous acts?”
Sam is afraid of being personally beheaded by terrorists.
Could there be a starker example of availability bias?
Or is it just run of the mill right wing cowardice?

“These places are the “head on the post” warning to terrorist.”
Actually those places are perfect recruiting tools for terrorists.
All we did is give the nutjobs proclamations about how evil the Great Satan some meat.
“This is a total insult to every person and the family’s of every person who have been KILLED by the jihad that will not rest.”
You know what’s a total insult to victims of terror?
Cowardly right wing keyboard warriors.

“but torture methods in the past have saved american lives.”
No, they did not.
Torture gave us nothing and put trying some of these terrorist in jeopardy.
Do right wingers know that 24 is a fictional TV show?
I realize your brain dead leaders cite the show as a example of the glory of torture but you guys do know its just a TV show right?

“What do the families of 9/11 think? This is the beginning of the end for this country. End Times.”
The Bush admin gave the middle finger to the families of 9/11.
First by refusing to even hold hearings on it.
Then when shamed into holding a special commission the Bush admin promptly ignore the commission’s recommendations.
But looky what I found from last month, Thirty-three relatives of people killed in the 9/11 attacks on the US have denounced the Guantanamo war crimes trials as illegitimate and unfair.

“First by refusing to even hold hearings on it. ”
Scratch an Obaite and find a Truther.
“But looky what I found from last month, Thirty-three relatives of people killed in the 9/11 attacks on the US have denounced the Guantanamo war crimes trials as illegitimate and unfair.”
From 1/21: “9/11 Families Outraged by Obama Call to Suspend Guantanamo War Crimes Trials”

“From 1/21: “9/11 Families Outraged by Obama Call to Suspend Guantanamo War Crimes Trials”"
From where else but FoxNews war’s biggest cheerleader!
And they quote all of three people.
One of who is afraid of trials of terrorist occurring on US soil apparently unaware that such trials have taken place.
And one who is upset by the delay, not the trial process.
“I’m constantly doing my part — I want my government to do its part for me. I want those people who participated in my son’s death and the death of some 3,000 others, I want to see them punished, if found guilty, in a court of law,” he said.

You leftist have a difficult moral code.
Given them a news story and its not the right news story.
Given them quotes from 9/11 families and they arent the right families.

“It’s great to see President Obama doing exactly what he committed to do during the election … and fast.”
What? Pander?
You do realize that he has actually committed to next to nothing? The order is vague enough to be construed to move all these lovable scamps to Bagram.
You’ll have to delay your beatification for some months to see if it all works out.

Close Gitmo? “We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.” Impeach Obama!

“Who is protecting America and her children with the closure of Gitmo?”
Huh?

Listen, Bush and his administration had about 5 years to bring some of these ‘obviously guilty’ people to trial – and failed miserably.
Give credit where credit is due.
My guess is that President Obama will get it done a lot faster, and with better values applied doing it.

prefos -
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
And if I recall correctly, President Oboma promised to defend and uphold this sacred document.
Now tell me prefos, how does closing Gitmo provide the common defense of this nation?

Now tell me prefos, how does closing Gitmo provide the common defense of this nation?
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I’m not Pefros, but I’ll be happy to answer your question. Despite all the weaponry which could blow up the planet twenty times over, we can’t defend ourselves against terrorism by might alone. Nor should we. It is a shared responsibility among nations. The closing of Gitmo shows not only our potential allies, but also the world, that both principles and international law matter, which will encourage more participation with security operations and could help to put a significant dampening on terrorist recruitment. After all, they’ll be unable to use the torture of Muslims and Middle Eastern individuals as a recruitment poster. Some would call it an evolution, badly needed and unavoidable.

“Despite all the weaponry which could blow up the planet twenty times over, we can’t defend ourselves against terrorism by might alone.”
Apparently we can.
“After all, they’ll be unable to use the torture of Muslims and Middle Eastern individuals as a recruitment poster.”
But they will be able to use craven capitulation. Which is probably better.
Besides they didnt need alleged torture of these ‘individuals’ to get their little bomb fest underway in the 90′s and 2001 so what makes you think its critical to their success?

Thanks Guys- Nope, it’s evolution- something which occurs to enhance and insure the survival of the human race. The revolution has already happened and was unsuccessful. I’m speaking of the one against the Constitution and the founding principles of our nation. Good Day.

Obama we agree that torture is not a great expression of justice it is fueled by anger and resentment. Torture is rarely justified with liberty, by truth, or justice for all.

Once again I feel compelled to say that in keeping with our nation’s self-proclaimed title of ‘Home of the Brave’, we Democrats have the courage to support Obama’s efforts to uphold our principles before the rest of the world despite the right-wing fear-mongers attempts to scare us into policies and behavior that we ourselves would condemn if done by others.

bert, again you miss the point due to your bias.
Bush and his administration had about 5 years to bring some of these ‘obviously guilty’ people to trial – and failed miserably.
A couple of ‘military’ trials finally got under way. Big deal . .. what an accomplishment in 5 years.
Give credit where credit is due. The Bush administration couldn’t get it done.
My guess is that President Obama will get it done a lot faster, and with better values applied doing it.

“Give credit where credit is due.”
What am I supposed to be giving credit for?
I am not giving Obama credit for getting any speedy convictions which you seem to want to award him with.
1. He hasnt.
2. He has moved in the opposite direction.
There were 9/11 Families in the courtroom finally seeing justice administered and Obama pulls the plug because Code Pink gave him money for his campaign.
“You lost the election for very good reasons.”
Yeah, America was voting for releasing terrorists. You are so right! That was the winning platform.
Or could it be the BILLION dollars Crystal Pepsi was marketed with? Like maybe a BILLION dollars helped Obama get 7 million more votes Kerry.
Because when you spend a BILLION dollars you can get a lot of people to do stuff. Thats why if you are in marketing and you are rolling out a new product, its nice to have a BILLION dollars.
Soooo two possibilities. Maybe people were convinced that convinced that having terrorists safely tucked away for a whole 5 mean years was a bad idea … or it could have been the BILLION dollars.
Could go either way.

And seriously bert, as much as you would like to make President Obama look bad, you’re failing miserably.
And as much as you seem to want to ignore how Bush handled the situation – Bush had about 5 full years to bring some of these ‘obviously guilty’ people to trial – and he also failed at this.
Had he and his administration been even slightly less inept, this would not even be an issue now.

Yeah Joe, too bad Bush wasn’t able to get Osama Bin Laden despite all his posturing and overblown bravado.

Joe: “It will take 1 attack. Then reports like this will wonder why it happened, voters like the Obama worshippers will crap themselves, and it will be done…”
Just like 9/11, nine months after Bush took office? Let me guess: If we’re attacked in 9 months time it’s Obama’s fault, but when we were attacked after 9 months under Bush it was Clinton’s fault?

“I respect President Bush and he has been a very good President. I did not always agree with everything he did; but he did protect us and this great country.”
Where was Bush on 9/11?
Oh yeah, frozen solid reading My Pet Goat.

shame on all of you whom criticize Obama, he didnt get this country in this mess, 8 years of Busch did, Obama is for the people of this nation as we are the nation, he hasnt taken a cent from lobbyist. what you dont understand and what you cannot understand is a movement of the people of this nation to take our country back and make its decrees, constitution and government work for all people of this nation. he is on the right track to save our nation and country. God bless him and his administration.

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