By Nitya

Jan 5, 2009 8:21am

The Note, 1/5/09: Hope is a Verb — Obama Era Dawns with Leadership Test

By RICK KLEIN The house in Chicago is empty. He’s checked into his hotel. His team is on board (mostly). The kids are in school. And it’s the first day back to a different kind of school for a president-elect who hasn’t taken this class before. Short two senators and one Cabinet member, with his home-state governor and (maybe) junior senator making mischief for him, plus a worsening economic crisis and a fresh foreign-policy challenge on his radar, President-elect Barack Obama’s era in Washington starts (just about) on Monday. With Roland Burris and Bill Richardson and Rod Blagojevich and Al Franken and Caroline Kennedy as sideshows, Obama is just a bit weakened for the travails of the past month. But if this isn’t quite the return to Washington Obama had in mind, that only heightens the importance of the test of tone and leadership skills he’s facing this week — one that could tell us what kind of term to expect, and maybe what kind of economy we’ll be dealing with, too. The battle lines are in place: Republicans are making the stimulus bill the first rallying point for (possible) opposition to the president-elect. Moderate Democrats are experiencing a touch of early sticker shock. And the nation waits to see what kind of leader Obama will be when it comes time to turn hope into action. As first moves go, this one will get high marks for practicality (and couple that with Richardson’s withdrawal): “President-elect Barack Obama plans to include about $300 billion in tax cuts for workers and businesses in his economic recovery program, advisers said Sunday, as his team seeks to win over Congressional skeptics worried that he was too focused on government spending,” Peter Baker and Carl Hulse report in The New York Times. That’s 40 percent of a package that will clock in between $675 billion and $775 billion, Team Obama says, and that’s one big way to defang the opposition. “The size of the proposed tax cuts — which would account for about 40% of a stimulus package that could reach $775 billion over two years — is greater than many on both sides of the aisle in Congress had anticipated. It may make it easier to win over Republicans who have stressed that any initiative should rely more heavily on tax cuts rather than spending,” Jonathan Weisman and Naftali Bendavid report in The Wall Street Journal. “The Obama tax-cut proposals, if enacted, could pack more punch in two years than either of President George W. Bush’s tax cuts did in their first two years,” they write, in a talking point you will hear again. (How do Republicans frame their opposition to this?) With bipartisan Capitol Hill meetings scheduled Monday, this is Obama the deal-maker, the legislator — and it’s not a role he’s really had to play before, not at this level. He’ll cap his week with a Thursday address to the nation (though not in prime time), as he makes a full-on push for a stimulus bill that aims to rub against conventional Washington wisdom. “There are signs that the usual divisions that send so many ambitious bills down to defeat will confront President-elect Barack Obama in his first weeks on the job,” Shailagh Murray and Paul Kane reported in the Sunday Washington Post. “With Republicans holding just enough seats to put the brakes on sweeping initiatives in the Senate, the fate of Obama’s agenda may rest on his ability to deliver on another campaign pledge: to change the way Washington does business by adopting a more pragmatic and inclusive governing style.” Keep an eye on the relationships: It’s an “entirely new role” for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., The New York Times’ Carl Hulse reports. “Now she finds herself about to become facilitator in chief, working with her Senate counterpart, Harry Reid of Nevada, to advance the ideals of the nation’s new No. 1 Democrat: Barack Obama,” Hulse writes. “Ms. Pelosi said she was more than willing to make room at the top, saying she was overjoyed to be working with a fellow Democrat in the Oval Office after two years of butting heads with President Bush on everything from the war in Iraq to children’s health care to overall spending.” The quote that tells the story that will matter: “She understands strategically that if we do well, they will do well,” said Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s incoming chief of staff and a former Pelosi lieutenant. Not that anyone has set any bars: “Not since President Franklin D. Roosevelt and the New Deal have public expectations been so high — or so acute — at the start of a new Congress,” Gail Russell Chaddock writes for the Christian Science Monitor. “A new Congress with strengthened Democratic majorities convenes tomorrow with one overriding goal: speed,” Bloomberg’s Laura Litvan writes. Bold predictions for the new year, from Bloomberg’s Al Hunt: “By the end of April, Barack Obama will probably have passed an economic package, historic in size and scope, and will need to have made discernible progress on global crises. . . . Bold or out-of-the-box measures will be forthcoming, advisers to the 44th president promise, to demonstrate change. These will be selective and not ideologically driven, they say. . . . One highly likely scenario: At a critical moment, probably involving national security, John McCain could well be the president’s most important ally. . . . Equally certain, however, is that movement conservatives, both politicians and pundits, will hammer away at Obama from the beginning. This is the way to gin up their constituencies.” Already, a delay (and — just maybe — a second early win for the GOP): “It’s going to be difficult to get the package together [by Jan. 20],” House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said on “Fox News Sunday.” “We don’t anticipate that Congress will have passed an Economic Recovery and Reinvestment plan by the time the Inauguration takes place,” incoming White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said aboard Obama’s plane from Chicago to Washington. And Republicans have their own ideas. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell wants tax cuts, plus loans instead of grants to states: “We want to make sure that it’s not just a trillion dollar spending bill,” McConnell told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on “This Week.” “This is an enormous bill, it could be a trillion-dollar spending bill. Do we want to do it with essentially no hearings and no input, for example, in the Senate from Republican senators who represent half the American population? I don’t think that’s a good idea.” Bipartisanship reigns on Monday. From the transition office: “President-elect Barack Obama will meet with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Capitol Hill on Monday. Vice President-elect Joe Biden will join Obama for a meeting with Democratic and Republican congressional leadership on Capitol Hill on Monday afternoon. Meeting participants will include Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, Senate Assistant Majority Leader Dick Durbin, Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, House Minority Leader John Boehner, House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn and House Minority Whip Eric Cantor.” “Aides tell ABC News in his meetings with congressional leaders later today, President-elect Obama will try to convey urgency. With new job loss numbers coming out Friday, Mr. Obama wants to break the cycle of the recession,” ABC’s Jake Tapper reported on “Good Morning America” Monday. Later, Obama meets with his economic team in Washington, at his transition office That’s a team that’s down one: Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M., follows in the grand tradition of jettisoned Cabinet picks in getting out before it got messy for him on the Hill. (And the RNC — pushing the pay-to-play story for weeks — can claim a scalp, should it so choose.) (Plus — is there any way Obama can choose someone for Commerce who isn’t Latino?) It marks the end of the seamless transition: “The decision by New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson to withdraw his name from consideration as secretary of Commerce today marks the first visible crack in what had been one of the smoothest presidential transitions in modern history,” Washingtonpost.com’s Chris Cillizza writes. “Richardson’s withdrawal was the first hitch in Obama’s efforts to speedily assemble a government before he takes office in two weeks. The news was revealed hours before Obama traveled to Washington to resettle his family and begin an aggressive push for an economic stimulus bill that Obama has said will be his first legislative priority,” Sasha Issenberg writes in The Boston Globe. “Lobbying for the stimulus package on Capitol Hill would probably have been among the new administration’s first tasks for Richardson, a Democrat who spent seven terms in Congress before becoming United Nations ambassador and energy secretary during Bill Clinton’s presidency.” “The federal probe heated up considerably last month, just around the time Obama announced Richardson as his choice for commerce secretary, according to sources familiar with the investigation. New subpoenas were issued, and testimony was scheduled from officials at J.P. Morgan Chase who worked for the state with CDR and from the director of Richardson’s political action committees,” The Washington Post’s Michael D. Shear and Carol D. Leonnig report. Richardson is still talking like he’s expecting to end up with an administration job eventually, but first he’ll have to climb out from under this bus: “Sources tell ABC News that officials on the Obama Transition Team feel that before he was formally offered the job of commerce secretary, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson was not forthcoming with them about the federal investigation that is looking into whether the governor steered a state contract towards a major financial contributor,” ABC’s Jake Tapper reports. “President-elect Obama did not ask Richardson to withdraw his name from consideration, sources from both camps say, but the fact that the confirmation seemed untenable in the short term was apparent to everyone involved,” Tapper reports. “A Democratic source said Obama’s questioners came away empty handed. ‘Those guys were pressed for information and they gave nothing,’ the source said,” per Politico’s Jonathan Martin. “Now some Democrats are questioning Obama’s vetting process — and asking whether Obama’s team went far enough in pushing the New Mexico governor for information in face of the federal grand jury probe that has been public since August.” This, in Blago’s wake, was too much: “The inquiry is part of a national investigation of ‘pay-to-play’ practices in the municipal bond market, in which financial companies make political donations to officeholders in order to be considered for public business,” Mike Dorning writes in the Los Angeles Times. The Blagojevich scandal “made it impossible for President-elect Obama to keep him right now,” ABC’s George Stephanopoulos reports. “This Richardson hiccup is likely to be a small blip — especially if they are able to come in with a easy-to-confirm replacement for Gov. Richardson in the next week or so.” Who could see it coming? “When he ran for president, Bill Richardson touted more than an adventurous style and impressive resume. He was the guy who embraced flaws as a strength, the one who said the American people ‘don’t want blow-dried candidates with perfection,’ ” per the AP’s Ben Feller. The background, per Bloomberg’s Hans Nichols (and there had been public reports on this as early as last August): “The grand jury in Albuquerque is looking into Beverly Hills, California-based CDR Financial Products Inc., which received almost $1.5 million in fees from the New Mexico Finance Authority in 2004 after donating $100,000 to Richardson’s efforts to register Hispanic and American Indian voters and pay for expenses at the Democratic National Convention in 2004, according to people familiar with the matter.” That piece of drama avoided — Gov. Rod Blagojevich, D-Ill., to the rescue. Roland Burris, D-Ill., heads to Washington Monday to claim the Senate seat Blagojevich tapped him for — except it may not be his to collect. “On the eve of traveling to Washington, where Senate Democratic leaders have vowed to refuse to seat him Tuesday, Burris declared himself the state’s newest senator. ‘I am now the junior senator from the state of Illinois. Some people, they want to doubt that. That is their right,’ Burris said [Sunday night] at a Chicago prayer service,” the Chicago Tribune’s Rick Pearson and Jeff Long report. “Burris once again pledged to not create ‘any theater’ at the nation’s Capitol, and Reid sounded a similar conciliatory note by refusing to rule out the possibility that Burris would be seated against the wishes of Senate Democrats,” Pearson and Long write. “Burris’ mere presence to try to claim the seat will, of course, be a spectacle,” Lynn Sweet writes for the Chicago Sun-Times. “He won’t get into the chamber because the Senate Democratic leadership doesn’t want anyone sent by Blagojevich, accused of trying to sell Obama’s seat for a plum job or campaign cash.” Burris tells Sweet: “There is no confrontation here, there is no antagonism here. . . . And so we are proceeding very diplomatically, and we are proceeding with all concern about not creating any type of circus that will entertain the media.” Wiggle room? “Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the chamber has the authority to block the appointment of Roland Burris but left open the possibility that he could still be seated,” Douglas Belkin reports in The Wall Street Journal. Said Reid, on “Meet the Press”: “There’s always room to negotiate.” Speaking of: “Arrangements are under way for a Wednesday meeting between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Roland Burris, the Democrat tapped by Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich to succeed President-elect Barack Obama in the U.S. Senate," ABC News has learned, per ABC’s Louise Schiavone. The other track, per the Journal’s Belkin: “Illinois Speaker of the House Michael Madigan called for a special session on Wednesday. A vote to impeach could come as early as this week, setting up a trial in the state Senate later this month.” With the Senate appointment likely to be sent to die in committee, the impeachment timeline matters: “If the state lawmakers vote to impeach Blagojevich, Illinois Lt. Governor Pat Quinn could make his own appointment,” ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf reports. “That would not automatically nullify Burris’ appointment, but it would give the Senate the ability to seat the new appointee instead and, at that point, Burris would have to gauge whether a protracted court fight would be worth the trouble.” The Chicago Tribune editorial page keeps up the special-election drumbeat: “What about the voters in this plundered state? Is anyone asking them what they want? They elected Barack Obama to the Senate. Obama quit to accept a better job. That’s his privilege. Choosing his replacement should be their privilege, just as replacing Rahm Emanuel is the privilege of voters who live in his congressional district.” As for that other Senate vacancy . . . Sen. Chuck Schumer’s enthusiasm notwithstanding, it’s not over just yet. “The state Canvassing Board was poised to certify the results of the recount in Minnesota’s grueling Senate election in Al Franken’s favor — but that doesn’t mean the race is definitely over,” the AP’s Amy Forliti writes. “The board was to meet Monday and was expected to declare which candidate received the most overall votes from nearly 3 million ballots cast. The latest numbers showed Franken, a Democrat, with a 225-vote lead over Republican Sen. Norm Coleman.” “But after the announcement, there will be a seven-day waiting period before an election certificate is completed. If any lawsuits are filed during that waiting period, certification is conditional until the issue is settled in court.” An Obama ally, in place: “Virginia Gov. Timothy M. Kaine will become chairman of the Democratic National Committee later this month, serving as the top political messenger for Barack Obama’s administration even while finishing his final year in the governor’s mansion,” Michael D. Shear reports in The Washington Post. Might this be a higher-profile job than the vice presidency? “Kaine, a friend of the president-elect’s, is a gregarious chief executive who is known to relish political combat and helped put Virginia in the Democratic presidential election column for the first time in almost 50 years,” Shear writes. “Two sources said Obama will announce his choice of Kaine for the DNC post later this week.” The RNC fight heats up: “Republican National Committee members gathering this week in Washington to start selecting a new chairman who can help get their party back on track will hear from four candidates who have secured enough public endorsements to be nominated,” The Hill’s Reid Wilson reports. “South Carolina GOP chief Katon Dawson, Former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, Michigan Republican Party chairman Saul Anuzis and current chairman Robert M. ‘Mike’ Duncan all have the backing of a majority of delegates from three states, the threshold for appearing on the ballot. Two other candidates have yet to release enough names to guarantee a spot on the ballot. Former Maryland Lieutenant Gov. Michael Steel and former Tennessee GOP party chairman Chip Saltsman, who was criticized by Duncan and Anuzis for circulating a CD to RNC members that included the parody song ‘Barack the Magic Negro,’ are also running for the position,” Wilson writes. USA Today’s Jill Lawrence: “The RNC’s 168 members pick a new chairman Jan. 28. The race spills into public view today with a debate sponsored by Americans for Tax Reform.” New from the Presidential Inaugural Committee Monday — your new hot ticket: “In keeping with his commitment to make this inaugural celebration open and accessible to all Americans, President-elect Barack Obama will host the first-ever ‘Neighborhood Inaugural Ball’ during this year’s inaugural celebration. The ball will be the premier event of inauguration evening on January 20th and will take place at the Washington Convention Center.” Your regular dose of Sarah Palin news: “A Mat-Su drug investigator and the union representing Alaska State Troopers are alleging political meddling in the Sherry Johnston drug case, including a delay in serving the search warrant because of the November election,” Sean Cockerham writes for the Anchorage Daily News. The Kicker: “I am now the junior senator from the state of Illinois.” — Roland Burris, maybe not so much. “I’d like to see him be president some day. . . . Right now is probably a bad time. . . .” — Former President George H.W. Bush, on his son, Jeb, on Fox News. Bookmark the link below to get The Note’s daily morning analysis:
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User Comments

God help us all, the circus is in town and they just cheated and pushed the clown into the senate. I’m in the military and would rather shot myself in the head then take an order from these clowns Franken is a joke. he cheated plain and simple.

Posted by: SSGT | January 5, 2009, 9:37 am 9:37 am

Barry has the MSM in his pocket, plain and simple. Any success he has will be exaggerated and any failures will be covered up or ignored. God help us all.

Posted by: Dave | January 5, 2009, 9:50 am 9:50 am

Comment from obama…..This is not the Bill Richardson i knew.
Comment from Obama…. This is not the Wright i knew.
Comment from Obama…. This is not the Ayers i knew.
Comment form Obama… this is not the Blagojevich i knew.
Obama has a bad choice of friends and employees .
Comment from Obama…. This is not the Rezko i knew.

Posted by: Jim | January 5, 2009, 9:51 am 9:51 am

I think you will see all of this mess with Burris, Richardson, will all be handled by Obama. He is a calm person and will be o.k. The sad thing is that the Republicans will fight him tooth and nail not because he is doing the wrong thing, it’s just because they lost. They don’t want him to suceed at anything. It makes them look bad. For all their bellowing, they had 8 years to make things right and did not so if you really want to help the economy and help with solutions, I ask they keep an open mind. From what I see on t.v., they intend to fight him. Too bad.

Posted by: Pat Napolitano Marietta. Ga. | January 5, 2009, 9:52 am 9:52 am

This thing of finger pointing and ambitions to discredit the opposition in politics needs to end for the benefit of the people. Enough votes have been bought by both parties. Enough blame has been transferred by both parties. Bureaucracy building in the interest of solving private sector problems has already proven futile. It’s time to downsize government and time for the parties to understand that they exist to co-operatively serve our nation’s best interests without the party politics. Both parties have good ideas and bad ideas. The far right and far left will never be happy. Mainstream America is the majority. Even as we speak this article confirms the new administration’s approval of some of the opposing parties ideas, ideas deemed irresponsible during the campaign. Hopefully recogniton will be given to both sides of the aisle. It’s a start.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | January 5, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am

I agree with you Pat. Even though it would be best for everyone in the country to hope our leaders do well. There will always be the sore-losers and the nay-sayers.
We had to shut up about how stupid Bush was for the first 4 years. And now even his closest advisors are talking about how incompetent he really was.

Posted by: scentsofroses | January 5, 2009, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Well, it seems that Mr Obama is already making some bad decisions! Its time for Mr Obama to put his money where his mouth is! This is it; its time for him to back up all the BS he handed people to get elected! His ideas for recovering the economy is a pipe dream and his ‘solutions’ are ridiculous! Well, good luck Mr Obama; you’re going to need it! God help us all!

Posted by: brannigon1 | January 5, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am

And he’s not even president yet!

Posted by: chaos | January 5, 2009, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Mr Obama bragged about ‘change’! How can there be change when he’s hired a bunch of Clinton’s old crooks! All its going to be is a repeat of Clinton’s stupidity! Man, is there no solution to this fiasco? Get ready America! We’re heading right for it! The only change we’ve seen so far, is that our president is now black!

Posted by: brannigon1 | January 5, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Scentsofroses
When did any of you “open minded” liberals ever shut up about how stupid Bush supposedly was over the last 8 years?
The way I remember it, your side’s insults of him were about as relentless and disrespectful as possible.

Posted by: Dave | January 5, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Now Barack is thinking about tax cuts for the businesses too. He looks better already. I might be all wrong in thinking he is a socialist. So far the right is not unhappy.

Posted by: chaos | January 5, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am

Chaos
Do not forget that barry is, and probably always will be, a socialist.
One does not “seek out marxist professors” as barry claimed to do in college, or sit in reverand racist’s church for 20 years listening to the evils of capitalism, and not feel likeminded towards these insane view points.
However, with that being said, barry has made some pretty good picks so far regarding his economic advisors. So long as he keeps on listening to them and not his “angry-at-white-America” wife, this country will be okay.

Posted by: Dave | January 5, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Thanks for your support, Dave. Scentofroses rhetoric is typical of the mindset of too many people. Our congress over many years, both Democrats and Republicans have brought about this mess we’re in now concerning war, the economy, and the now so important class disparity, which I really don’t think any legislation will end any more than legislation can end prejudice. Rising in economic and social status is always ultimately up to the individual. Our government will gear up to help the poor but the poor will always be replaced by new poor because poor is a relative thing. To wit, our poor in America live like kings compared the other countries poor. Likewise our minorities have unlimited horizons unlike those citizens other countries simply kill. Some counting of blessings might be more in order than demands for handouts.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | January 5, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am

Hey Dave, you pretty much are proving how short-sightedness and your loss of memory. Maybe you should check that out. After 9/11, it was practically illegal to even mention “W”. He actually was walking on water.
And wow, mmonroe, I thought earlier you were actually talking sense. How poor have you ever been? I think you were very insulting, not to me, but to all of the single-mothers out there who, like I used to, work several jobs to feed their children. And still not have enough money to pay the bills. No, I never was on public-assistance. I did it without it. There were many sleepless nights and a lot of gray hairs later. My children have paid their own way through college and they (unlike many others young adults) work hard and are very responsible.
My youngest daughter, 21 years-old, came home last evening and told me “Mom, you would be very proud of me, “I was at a party and was offered marijuana and I turned it down. I have never tried it, why should I start now?”
You sorry pieces of B$ are what is making this country the way it is. People are trying really hard this Christmas Season, to bring back family and ’40′s traditional traditions.

Posted by: scentsofroses | January 5, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am

My husband is also very republican. He doesn’t like liberals. But we are very happily married. I respect him greatly. He doesn’t put down people. He is a self-made man, intelligent and loyal to this country. He like many of my best friends are very republican. Some of them voted for Obama! Shock and disgust is now what they think of the republicans in the later years.
Grow-up and just welcome Obama and if you are a praying man, pray that he has a lot of support for what he has to do.
Read your history and wait. Everyone was about to lynch Truman, just because he added a porch to the white house. People are so quick to judge.

Posted by: scentsofroses | January 5, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

mmonroeliveson
Trying to explain to liberals about how America is the land of the fat poor people is useless. They will still continue to scream that America is oppressive and hostile to the poor.
I just heard the traitor mike moore say last month on larry king that “we are seeing the end of capitalism and good riddance-it has not done anything good for anyone”.
Also, about the same time barney franks was one larry king talking about there is a big need for income equality.
I swear, the democrats do not even try to hide their socialist views anymore, they are now shouting them from the rooftops after the election of barry.

Posted by: Dave | January 5, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Calling people traitors is exactly what I was referring to Dave. What you don’t understand is….this is the home of the brave and the free. People should not have to resort to name-calling, when they have different views. That is very counter-productive.
I never once said that I was for capitalism. I too, think that there are way too many people, of both parties, taking advantage of the system. People, again of both parties, have become extremely lazy.
I worked for two republicans, that never even threw out their own trash, their pool, though he was biology school teacher, was dark green by July. There are lazy people on BOTH sides. “let someone else do it”
So us, so-called liberals, do have brains. We CAN see both sides. Keep an open-mind and hope this country for once and for all, heals.

Posted by: scentsofroses | January 5, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

I read an article about who voted for barack and it was alarming how many people living off the system voted for him compared to how many living off the system voted for mccain

Posted by: chaos | January 5, 2009, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Seeing how “I guess” that most of the people living “off the system” are probably minorities, that is really hard to fathom! LOL
That isn’t as important as the ones that voted republican in the past years that voted for Obama. That is the real surprise.
Get off your high-horse and just look in the mirror. Stop your judging of other people. Shame on you, your mother sure didn’t raise you very nicely.

Posted by: scentofroses | January 5, 2009, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Everything will be fine in our country. Our culture trives on the agruing but we do need get more things done in this country. Bush didnt do a thing to help this country and the republicans can thank him and his lot for shoting thier party in the face. As an Independent I can stay on the right or left to long because both sides make sense and act just as crazy or stupid.
Josh

Posted by: Josh from South Carolina | January 5, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Scentofroses; Just for the record, in my time I’ve picked zuccinis, cucumbers and watermelons to pay the rent and utilities. All I had to eat was the oversized and undersized produce I was picking. I’ve also worked as a tobacco stripper. If you’ve never done it you can’t even comprehend what terrible working conditions a tobacco stripper must endure. Never applied for welfare. Never expected anything more than protection of my rights and protection from our enemies from the central government. Through much effort I now have a respectable job with a decent
income and benefits. I earned it through diligent hard work. I did it in spite of high taxes, prejudice, and old school thought that said I couldn’t. Don’t give me this “government should do something more for us poor people BS.” It’s not the government’s job to pick us up. It’s the government’s job to protect our right to succeed, not to GIVE us success.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | January 5, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

When people like dave say Obama is a “socialist,” they are showing their ignorance of economics, politics, history, and Obama’s record. I guess if you listen to the ravings of the far right radio windbags you might fall for stuff like that. Meanwhile, in the real world, our President-elect (whose name has not been “Barry” for decades, you juveniles) is moving quickly and responsibly to deal with the huge economic problems he’s inheriting. Solving them will take time and care (and bipartisan cooperation). The American people clearly support that, and will ignore the nasty Hooverites who only know how to take cheap (inaccurate) shots.

Posted by: tmginnova | January 5, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

tmginnova
Your ability to believe everything that obama says, when his record shows a complete conrtadiction to his rhetoric, is pretty scary.
Currently there is an outspoken SOCIALIST senator from VT whose record is more to the right of barry’s.
Barry attended an anti-capitalist, anti-American church for 20 years.
Barry is “friendly” (according to dave axlerod) with the terrorist bill ayers, who has been preaching the evils of capitalism since the 60′s. Ayers also had a party for barry at his house.
Barry says in his book “audacity of hope” which was titled after rev racist speech “audacity of hope”, “in college i sought out the marxist professors”.
Barry said to joe the plumber “i just wanna spread it around a bit”
Finally, barry said in an interview via radio several years ago that “it was a tragedy that the courts did not get involved with income redistribution in the 60′s”.
Barry is a phony and a fake. How can you believe anything says?

Posted by: Dave | January 5, 2009, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

Dave — How can anyone believe anything you write when you so clearly cherry pick and take out of context quotes and anecdotes, and show no evidence of understanding the basic elements of Obama’s record or the issues the country faces? Your last post was so typical of the amazingly irresponsible (and losing) race the GOP ran last year. Rather than facing squarely and debating intelligently the serious issues the country faces, they and you chose to make this about “small” things: parties someone attended, pastors, stupid slogans, guilt by association. Obama could have responded by focusing on McCain’s dissolute youth, divorce, Keating 5 scandal,etc, etc, but chose instead to treat the American people as serious adults who could debate important issues. The exaggerated gibberish in your post has been gone over time and again, and no one cares about your obsessions (except the remnants of the John Birch Society and Sons of the Confederacy). Want to talk about real issues?

Posted by: tmginnova | January 5, 2009, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

So mmonroe, where did you ever hear me say that the goverment owes anyone anything? Wow, do you read between the lines. You also have a prejudice about what the “other side” is saying because you are not reading what “I” wrote.
I have never said that I agreed with BIG goverment nor did I ever say that I agreed with the goverment helping everyone, “Or sharing the wealth”.
I just think that “W” was the worst president in U.S. history. And I knew it before he became PREZ. He has a rich-man’s sense of over-entitlement. He definitely was born with a silver-spoon in his mouth and no intelligence to back it up.
I would like to have a centralist goverment. One down the middle to benefit everyone. Some of the welfare recips. are perfectly content to stay there and think nothing is wrong with that. I know of three families that are taking advantage of the system, personally.
But you just go ahead and assume all you want about me. You are showing your lack of intelligence and integrity.

Posted by: scentsofroses | January 5, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

tmginnova,
what record??? all he has ever done was run for some kind of office.
I give him a chance, let see what happens.

Posted by: Lizzie | January 5, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

How sad it is to think that the best we may have to look forward to in the future is equal incomes, equal taxes, equal everything. I feel fortunate to have known the American Dream. If only my children could enjoy the same prospect. In my 62 years the only place in time the idea of an American Promise has come up was during the Obama campaign. During my life there have been no promises of success. I really don’t think the government can promise individual success. If everyone does have government sponsored success what happens to the incentive to be productive? What happens to the term excel? What choices does the individual have to make if the government is the Daddy?

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | January 5, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Obama is doing exactly what we elected him to do: appointing qualified people in top positions, getting cash into the pockets of working people and small businesses as fast as possible, working with the Democratic leaders in the Congress, and addressing the concerns of Republicans without freezing them out, as the last President did. We are on the road to recovery; recovering our self respect if not our fortune. I say, three cheers for Obama and his transition team. Hip, hip Hooray! Hip, hip Hooray! Hip, hip Hooray!

Posted by: Amy | January 5, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

tmginnova, Some of these people just keeping saying the same lines that they have been fed on “right”radio. They are as usual putting words and actions in what everyone else is saying or doing, without any real truth in it.
Their truth is whatever their latest chants are.
I just want to put the last eight years behind us. I would like our country to become reunited again, just like after 9/11. We need to fix all of the nasty doo-doo that has enveloped us.
The extemist terrorists are probably pretty happy that we have sooooo many angry republicans right now. That makes all of us weak. And we are so busy calling names that we aren’t going to be aware of it until it is too late.
I only hope that Obama has good advisors and they are smart and aware enough for all of us. Reagan had really good advisors. And he was smart enough to listen to them. And he was going senile! LOL

Posted by: scentsofroses | January 5, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

You tell em’ Dave!

Posted by: sam | January 5, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Lizzie — You’re right. We should all give the new team a chance. And more than that: we need to do our share to help rebuild the country, not just rely on government as “mmonoroeliveson” notes. This will take ordinary Americans who can do it saving and investing wisely (not chasing instant returns), the very wealthiest of us “sacrificing” that next yacht and returning to the kind of tax rates of a few years ago, and all of us supporting common sense steps like rebuilding crumbling roads and schools, conserving energy by eliminating wasteful practices, and building the kind of economy our children can thrive in. We can’t get there by just being critics or passive observers, but by rolling up our sleeves and working together (once again).

Posted by: tmginnova | January 5, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

What a surprise, the Republicans are lining up to oppose the middle class tax cut.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | January 5, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

tmginnova, RIGHT ON! Why don’t you run for public office. You (so-called ordinary people) is what our nation needs. Inspiration, not in the religous sense but in the common sense is what is really needed right now.

Posted by: scentsofroses | January 5, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

I am at once amazed and amused by the number of bloggers here who do not understand the concept of “change.” They rant and rave that the new Cabinet does not represent change, Obama lied about change, where’s the change, there is no change, etc. etc. etc ad nauseum. Change is not a bunch of totally new faces as your top advisors. Carter did that and his adminstration was a disaster. Change comes from the leader. The agenda he sets. The tone he sets in dealing with Congress. The goals he sets to reform our image abroad. His leadership style. THAT is where change comes from. Obama rightfully surrounded himself with a good, eclectic mix of experienced people who will implement his agenda of change. End of story.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | January 5, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

chaos,
The state of Maine went overwhelmingly for Obama. Are you really going to imply we live off the dole up here? Maine pays more to the federal government than it gets back in handouts, unlike the top 5 neediest states, all Red States. Maine is not a rich state, but we are self sufficient, with a high number of high school graduates and a low crime rate. We are hard working people and we support Obama.

Posted by: Amy | January 5, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Thanks, scentofroses. I appreciate your posts, too. It’s important to try to set the record straight. At times I find it hard not to get into the same kind of nasty comments and ad hominem charges our right wing friends engage in. I’d like to try to be as positive and inclusive as our new president.

Posted by: tmginnova | January 5, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

amy: What I am saying is that the blue states, mostly coastal, have an overwhelmingly higher welfare rate than say North Dakota South Dakota. they might recieve more highway funds per capita but thats because they are large states with few people. But you can’t argue that most welfare recipients are going to vote for the guy that will give them more money.

Posted by: chaos | January 5, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

dave: You are right on and the fact that most of Obama’s supporters ignore or call your facts misleading is ignorant. He is a Socialist from the core and that is why he has been elected. The majority of the people want a handout. My next “stimulus” welfare check is going to pay for all the new taxes. Thanks Obama

Posted by: chaos | January 5, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

We had to shut up about how stupid Bush was for the first 4 years. And now even his closest advisors are talking about how incompetent he really was.
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scentsofrose,
exactly WHO had to shut up? You libbies have spent the last 8 years whining & whining & whining. Even when you controled congres…you whined.
Now you have congress 7 the White House….AND YOUR STILL WHINING!!!!
OMG, shut up already and try to realize that if you really had shut up after Bush won, you would have a valid point. Instead you whined for 8 years that he “stole” the election. Claimed everything he did was illegal.
So now Obama and the vaunted vetting team have proven they are either incompetent or they were willing to try to push Richardson through.
You don’t like the fact that your golden boy has managed to get tarnished all on his own. Face it, you elected a “Chicago-Style” politician to the Presidency. You got what you asked for!

Posted by: Mike_C | January 5, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

“Hey Dave, you pretty much are proving how short-sightedness and your loss of memory. Maybe you should check that out. After 9/11, it was practically illegal to even mention “W”. He actually was walking on water.”
Well, lets see….He only kept the US safe for more than 7 years. One thing is certain, NOBODY would be saying that today if Al “global warming, no lets call it climate change” Gore had been elected in 2000 !

Posted by: Mike_C | January 5, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

We can see Sam Huntington was right in his book Clash of Civilizations if we will only look and be rational. But too many are not prepared for logic or rational discourse and resort to hurling racist insults. If we are realistic and look at the havoc caused by the millions invading Hispanics on our communities, culture, crime, economy, welfare and standard of living the only conclusion possible is that no Nation can withstand or assimilate Millions of citizens from another culture without changing to the very same type of culture and society the invading millions have created, built and sustained for 100,s of years and are now fleeing in their own Countries!
We really need the infrastructure and construction jobs so we can put the millions of Illegal Aliens back to work, so they can send money home to support Mexico! The contractors can charge the tax payers union scale, hire Illegals at slave wages, pocket the profits, and hit the tax payers for both their wages and the billions in cost to educate their many children, provide medical and welfare.
Sounds like the same old scam, reward the invading horde and soak the tax payers! You would think the Politicians would be content with just outsourcing all the jobs that are possible but No they want to bring in Slave labor ( while ignoring Article IV Section IV of our Constitution against invasion, the rule of Law, and their Oath of office) to take the jobs that cannot be outsourced! To add insult to injury they make the American citizens still working pay billions in extra taxes to educate, provide medical, welfare and jail cells for the invading horde that are taking our jobs and driving down our standard of living! While keeping busy Robbing, Raping and Killing American citizens at an rate that Ben Laden can only dream about!
But the Republicans love the slave labor for their Pay Masters in the Chamber of Commerce and business. The Democrats love the millions of Welfare votes. So there is little or no hope for American citizens and the future viability of this nation as we know it.
The future is an over populated, Spanish speaking third world Nation that is an Cesspool of Corruption, Crime, Poverty and Misery modeled on Mexico!

Posted by: Black Saint | January 5, 2009, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

tmginnova
Calling barry a socialist is not a scare tactic, it’s called exposing.
Also, the GOP lost this race because we did not nominate a conservative.Hillary clinton is about as conservative as john mccain.
The media hand picked McCain to be our nominee because they knew he would NEVER win. They began building him up during the primaries while badgering Romney and the others whenever possible.
The media would have chosen hillary over McCain, but when the smooth-talking socialist descended from the slums of chicago poltics, they found themselves a new hero, and they ate hillary alive.

Posted by: Dave | January 5, 2009, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm

The Democrats like the Republicans have met the Culture of Corruption and have found it is Good!

Posted by: Black Saint | January 5, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

I am at once amazed and amused by the number of bloggers here who do not understand the concept of “change.” They rant and rave that the new Cabinet does not represent change, Obama lied about change, where’s the change, there is no change, etc. etc. etc ad nauseum. Change is not a bunch of totally new faces as your top advisors. Carter did that and his adminstration was a disaster. Change comes from the leader. The agenda he sets. The tone he sets in dealing with Congress. The goals he sets to reform our image abroad. His leadership style. THAT is where change comes from. Obama rightfully surrounded himself with a good, eclectic mix of experienced people who will implement his agenda of change. End of story.
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William J. LePetomane,
LOL…I am amazed that anyone is dumb enough to think that Obama is anything but well polished, well spoken Chicago politician. The other thing I find amazing, is that you need to redefine “change” for this guy. Reminds me of those fun old days when we were debating the meaning of “is” !!
Get it through your head, there is no “change” coming. There will be a lot of “retreading” of the Clinton years and it will be painted with a fresh coat of “change”, but it is still the same old politics as usual. This entire situation with Richardson PROVES it.
LOL, Like he actually raised 3/4 of a Billion dollars and there is no “payback” being looked for from various circles. He is without question a fantastic campaigner, but the campaign is done. Now you actually have to come up with ALL those half baked ideas you told people were coming as part of this “change”. It is indeed strange, that the bloogers are talking about what the “change” is, but not PEBO!
Its a lot like the Wizard of Oz… Keep your eyes on the theatrics, dont pay any attention to those curtains!!!!

Posted by: Mike_C | January 5, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

We really need the infrastructure and construction jobs so we can put the millions of Illegal Aliens back to work, so they can send money home to support Mexico! The contractors can charge the tax payers union scale, hire Illegals at slave wages, pocket the profits, and hit the tax payers for both their wages and the billions in cost to educate their many children, provide medical and welfare.
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BINGO! How many of you out there are asking the single most obvious question about this infrastucture “scheme” ???
HOW MANY OF THE NATION’S UNEMPLOYED ARE ACTUALY CONSTRUCTION WORKERS???
All those laid off from retail & high tech and yes even those who lost jobs from the banks & Wall st. firms. Exactly what does all this foolish hype about infrastructure going to do to help them ?

Posted by: Mike_C | January 5, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Where’s silky?

Posted by: chaos | January 5, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

chaos, would you say ‘Those Blue States’ probably overwhelmingly have 37 people ‘on welfare’ to only one (1) in the ‘Red States’ of ND and SD??? Guess what? That’s called “fair and equitable.” Hope this is not too difficult for you; CA and NY combine for a population of 55,000,000. While ND and SD combine for a total population of 1,500,000, that’s a 37 x 1 ratio, and that’s fair and equitable. Or is your problem the political party of the recipients receiving welfare? (that’s the nice way to get at the obvious.)

Posted by: bobj72 | January 5, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

Class disparity legislation will demand an end to the premise that the cream will rise. Our freedom to succeed or fail according to our own choices and efforts will become history. With additional government commitments our already financially overstressed government is destined to give up its last gasps of life. Who will invest in a corporate America that produces no returns on the investment? Then from what source will the government derive funding to cover its commitments? By design the Obama administration admittedly intends to end the existence of capitalism, even as Americans cheer. Soon a world bank will be formed, then a world government. National sovereignty will be history. Our freedoms will be compromised. By the time Americans fully realize the impacts of socialism they will be so desperate for relief they’ll beg for world government. That’s the direction we’re heading. Only now it seems we’re no longer content to inch our way toward self destruction. Already many cannot wait to surrender because they lack faith in themselves.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | January 5, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

chaos
Where are you getting your statistics showing coastal states voting for Democrats have greater numbers of welfare recipients?
And in my experience, most truly poor people don’t vote.
Please site your source.

Posted by: Amy | January 5, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

As Reagan would say “liberals aren’t ignorant, it just that they know so much that isn’t so”.
This is apparent in nearly every single obamabot’s post!

Posted by: Dave | January 5, 2009, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

Bobj; The problem is not the party. The problem is the concept of government liability for the poor choices and poor performance of its citizens. Whatever comes our way is the result of choices made by us or someone else. Choices won’t be available soon so the problem of bad choices will soon be eliminated. That in itself is a problem bigger than poor choices.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | January 5, 2009, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm

I’ll have to find it, but also in that same article the states that voted for obama also had 4 times higher murder rate. Where I live (city) if we have more than 1 murder in 10 years it is strange.

Posted by: chaos | January 5, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

I did find that the murder rate in chicago is up 18% last year. according to chicago tribune “swamp”. I have to look on pc at home for the article.

Posted by: chaos | January 5, 2009, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm

Pat Napolitano: good post. It’s a shame, because if Obama fails the country is in trouble, but many people would rather see that than admit that someone they voted against might do a good job.

Posted by: 1bluestocking | January 5, 2009, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

Dear folks, Here is my take on Senator Pelosi’s desire to have an “Intelligence Professional” become Director of the C.I.A.
Recent history does not give very high marks to “Intelligence Professionals”.
Please note that the greatest fiascos that American foreign relations and Intelligence occurred while there was an “intelligence professional serving as the DCI. Here is a short list of the failures that can be directly attributed to Intelligence Professional leadership at the C.I.A. This list is not exhaustive:
1. Pearl Harbor,2. Gary powers U2 fiasco 3.Chinese “volunteers in Korea,4.Creation of Magsaysay dictatorship in the Phillipines,4.Disaster while attempting to unseat Sukarno in Indonesia,5.The Myagueze incident,6 the u.s Pueblo incident, 7.the Bay Of Pigs debacle,6. Failure to detect Russian missiles in Cuba 8.C.I.A Secret war in Loas 9.failure of monumental failure in Vietnam;(the Pentagon Papers was written by agency man;papers really are chronicle intelligence failures in s.e asia 10.Incredible C.I.A. failure during Grenada incident 11.C.I.A, F.B.I,D.I.A, all failed concerning Bin-Laden 12.Also allowing Noriega free reign in Panama because he eas a paid C.I.A informant 13. Of course we must not forget the C.i.A.’s decades long and deadly involvement in S. America.
14. Also we must not the loss of life in Bosnia,Croatia etc,ect, ad nauseum.15.Irag
T¬¬he fact of the senate leatership statement regarding the C.I.A. vividly exposes the ignorance and and incompetencein our Congress.
The matter of America Intelligence failures deserve a lot of attention from the press. I think that American Foriegn Policy is the dog that is wagged by the C.I.A. tail. The history of Air America is a good place to start.
Anyone have comments. I would love to more posts on this subject.

Posted by: bernie | January 6, 2009, 9:54 am 9:54 am

Monroe, sounding smart catering to your ‘conservative cess-pool’ is your calling card. Don’t patronize me with your ‘mammy-made political philosophy!’ “Government Liability for citizens Choices & Performance.” As usual, you and other hacks of your ilk take an after-the-fact issue and assign a “created causal factor”……..and you expect ‘thinking adults’ to buy into that crap??? Your psuedo-intellect should be reserved for the fawning sycophants who seek your guidance.

Posted by: bobj72 | January 6, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

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