Boehner and Cantor Have Questions About President’s Housing Proposal
House Republican Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, today issued a statement on President Obama’s proposal to alleviate the housing crisis.
Boehner said, "There are many unanswered questions that remain about the proposal that was announced today. Why should we reward Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac with $200 billion in taxpayer dollars without first reforming these housing entities that were at the heart of the economic meltdown? Will taxpayers be forced to subsidize the scandal-plagued activist group ACORN under this proposal? Should a responsible plan include a ‘cramdown’ provision that could increase the monthly mortgage payments for responsible borrowers?"
Boehner and House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., sent President Obama a letter asking other questions:
"1. What will your plan do for the over 90 percent of homeowners who are playing and paying by the rules?
"2. Does your plan compensate banks for bad mortgages they should have never made in the first place?
"3. Will individuals who misrepresented their income or assets on their original mortgage application be eligible to get the taxpayer funded assistance under your plan?
"4. Similarly, will you require mortgage servicers to verify income and other eligibility standards before modifying mortgages?
"5. What will you do to prevent the same mortgages that receive assistance and are modified from going into default three, six, or eight months later?
"6. How do you intend to move forward in the drafting of the legislation and who will author it?"
Coincidentally, a few of us asked Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner question number 6, above.
He said he believed "existing authority" allowed them to make the policies, except for some regulatory changes such as allowing bankrupcty judges the ability to renegotiate the mortgages of homeowners to avoid foreclosure. Geithner said they were exploring which legislative path was the best for those changes, but the largest components of the plans Obama administration officials say they already can do.
As for the other questions, I’m working on some answers.
– jpt

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“Will taxpayers be forced to subsidize the scandal-plagued activist group ACORN under this proposal?”
The right wing’s new favorite boogie man.
Like welfare queen before it, ACORN is dog whistle politics appealing to the racial prejudices harbored by the GOP base.
Posted by: Ryan C | February 18, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Boehner and Cantor wouldn’t have supported anything Obama laid out today, so their criticisms are illegitimate.
But there are vital questions regarding the plan that the White House must answer – and soon.
Posted by: matt | February 18, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Who cares what the GOP has to say. They really do NOT care about the American people.
No wonder they are the minority party. Americans are so sick of them and that’s why their approval ratings are so damn low.
Posted by: Nancy | February 18, 2009, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Who cares what John Boehner or Eric Canor think PERIOD ?? All these GOP Bozos know how to do are write letters, stage photo ops and basically just whine NO NO NO….PATHETICALLY IRRELEVANT!!!!!
Posted by: Leprkin | February 18, 2009, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Answers:
1. Nothing.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. No.
5. See 1 above.
6. Who cares, the Obama has spoken.
Posted by: Sally J | February 18, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
#6 is a dumb question. That money is from TARP money and has already been given to the administration.
Posted by: Amoreena | February 18, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
They try so hard to be relevant.
Posted by: Clint | February 18, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Question #7: How can we make sure that we gut enough from this program so that it doesn’t work as we say you failed? Because that is what we really care about.
Posted by: Ordermonger | February 18, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
ACORN! ACORN! boo!
Does the GOP have any idea what crying “ACORN” does to their credibility? I wish someone would ask them that!
Posted by: Jo | February 18, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
I am so sick of the GOP. There is a reason why we Americans voted them out of office.
Posted by: Rick | February 18, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Question number one is easy: it is just more destructive gratuitous snark from the leaders of the GOP. Are they suggesting just giving free money to all of us just for the heck of it? Those of us who are lucky and/or prescient enough to have a mortgage and a financial situation we can afford should not be whining “where’s mine” given the overall state of affairs. To attempt to foster that sort of resentment and division during this time is small, shallow politics that does not place the best interest of the country first.
I would appreciate it if reporters started asking these GOP representatives pointed questions about whether or not they want the President to succeed in pulling this economy out of a tail spin. If so, what evidence can they point to that shows how they are positively contributing? Please don’t buy the “they wouldn’t let us participate” tripe. My two Maine Senators figured out a way to do just that. What’s wrong with the rest of them? They doth protest way too loudly.
Posted by: GM | February 18, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Is ACORN the new boogie man?
Is anybody listening to the GOP any more?
Posted by: Rick | February 18, 2009, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
I am quite concerned about Boehner and Cantor’s ability to read, never mind legislate. Many of these questions are clearly answered in the proposal. Let me guess, they had this list of talking points typed up and ready to pound on the podium before the plan was even presented, right? Way to care about leadership guys.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 18, 2009, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
Obama answered Question 1. Any house owner can refinance their mortgage at any time if interesa rates are better than what you have. We sure did five years ago.
Posted by: Teresa | February 18, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
I’ve started seeking out Tapper’s reporting because he still knows how to ask some good questions, and has the nerve to even ask the obvious questions. Makes me nostalgic for the way things used to be, when reporters may have been liberal but were not shameless advocates for an ideology.
If JT feels a tingle in his leg (msnbc) or wants to sleep with the president (nyts) at least he has the decency to keep such things to himself.
Posted by: jane | February 18, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
Where’s the GOP’s plan?
Instead of just saying “NO” all the time, why don’t the Republicans just come up with their own plan and how to finance it?
Posted by: Sara | February 18, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
I have some bad news for many homeowners and mortgage holders — your property may never have actually been worth what you paid for it.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | February 18, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Hmmm let’s take a crack at these questions…
#1 It benefits people who played by the rules by reducing foreclosures. Housing prices have plummetted as a result of bad loans and defaults, causing a flood of empty houses on the market. By limiting future foreclosures housing prices will slowly cease their plummet and will start to increase in value. Also many people who played by the rules are now underwater due to this, helping them refinance to more accurately pay on what their house is now worth due to the actions of others. To help no one is to punish everyone.
#2 and #3: Frankly this plan probably will compensate some bad lendees and some bad lenders. But much less so then giving them free handouts like in the last bailout. Lenders and lendees must renogtiate, the lenders reducing the value of the loan and refinancing at a lower interest rate. In turn the lenders get some government compensation, but still take a heat on the loans on their books. The government tried to do this same thing on a voluntary basis already, and guess what…no lenders decided to do it and probably never will. Again though, punish everyone with no help, or an imperfect solution that helps everyone including a some cheats.
More later.
Posted by: Ordermonger | February 18, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
Well do you have any better Plans Drama Queens, Instead of Bashing the President come up with Something, whats the matter Little Girls out of Ideals the Ideas of the Last 8 Years are Not gonna Work Either work with The President Think Anew OR SHUT THE HELL UP!
Posted by: Angie | February 18, 2009, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
OH GET OVER THE RACE THING THATS ALL I HEAR YOU LIBERALS SAY. IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE? IM A INDEPENDENT I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE THESE QUESTIONS IM SICK OF PAYING FOR EVERY BANK AND HOME OWNER WHO DID NOT DO THE RIGHT THING IN THE FIRST PLACE NO SYMPATHY HERE. AND ACORN SHOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY MONEY FROM THE TAX PAYERS THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND.
Posted by: natale from mass. | February 18, 2009, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Seriously did the repubs even bother to think about what they just heard. Obama already answered almost all of that in his press conference. This is a decent plan that helps all homeowners by reducing foreclosures so that the market does not get any worse and has time to recover. Since they are the party of NO now I guess they have nothing else left to do but try to find the cracks, as if a perfect solution exists to such a complex problem.
Posted by: Ryan | February 18, 2009, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Where did all these people, with questions, go when Bush was dismantling every fabric of this country for eight long years. Nobody asked him any questions. This includes the press corps. They were idiotically silent all thoses years and now all of a sudden they become idiotically obstructive with stupid questions. Here is a hard working president with intregrity and intelligence trying to get this country back on track, and all that these people can do is ask stupid questions.
Posted by: VP | February 18, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Jake, I have a question for the big O, who bails me out when I go broke bailing everyone else out….
Posted by: samhiguchi | February 18, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Why should America reward the Republican Party’s EPIC FAILURE by listening to any more nonsense from them?
“Fool me once, shame on … shame on you. Fool me … you can’t get fooled again.”
— George W. Bush
G.O.P. = R.I.P.
Posted by: R Mutt | February 18, 2009, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
That’s right Obamites. Don’t logically discuss the matter or even acknowledge there is any merit in these questions. Just follow blindly and if any questions the great one, resort to the mantra of no one questioned Bush, therefore, no one can question Obama. Brilliant!
Posted by: Kelly | February 18, 2009, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
These republicans just don’t get it! After all, they are the ones who were the main “drivers” of the downward spiral and now they are trying to do everything to sabotage efforts to help the country and its citizens for their own selfish reasons. When have you heard even ONE republican come out with a good suggestion or recommendation?? They have no ideas to help anyone and are bent on destruction so that they think this would help their cause. Show me one idea that would help us, coming out from their mouths! Running around like headless chickens will be their own self-destruction.
Posted by: Karen | February 18, 2009, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Posted by: samhiguchi | Feb 18, 2009 5:12:49 PM
Jake, I have a question for the big O, who bails me out when I go broke bailing everyone else out….
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Don’t be so selfish.If people aren’t bailed out the money that you are hoarding won’t be worth a penny!
Posted by: fempharoh | February 18, 2009, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
It’s great that Obama has moved to protect American homeowners from the predatory bankers.
Next, CREDIT CARD RATE REFORM!!!
Why are credit card companies allowed to strangle American consumers with usurious rates?
8% maximum rate or BOYCOTT PAYMENT!!!!
LIKE THE BOSTON TEA PARTY ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!
WHO’S WITH ME?
Posted by: R Mutt | February 18, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
When will we learn that both the Republicans and democrats drink from the same trough. I am glad I voted for Nader.
Posted by: Ken | February 18, 2009, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Yes, Kelly, what have these stupid Boehner and Cantor (in general Republicans) have done except for asking stupid questions and saying no? Most of the questions are answered, if these took some time to read the proposal. We should be ashamed for electing these imbeciles. We have high tolerance for stupidity and no tolerance for analytical intelligent approach.
Posted by: VP | February 18, 2009, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
More Grandstanding by the Party of NO. What I know is that if the homeowners default I am paying anyway. The Banks are stuck with a bad investment, we have to give them more money.
It is easy to see fault, hard to do anything about the problems, so the GOP is taking the Easy Way; find fault, and blame the guy who is doing the work.
Posted by: Thinking | February 18, 2009, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Kelly:” Don’t logically discuss the matter or even acknowledge there is any merit in these questions.”
There has been logical discussion of these questions, but many of them were answered in the announcement. It’s like Boehner and Cantor were asleep through class and woke up at the end and started asking questions about yesterday’s lecture. These aren’t questions, they are crass political talking points.
“What will your plan do for the over 90 percent of homeowners who are playing and paying by the rules?”
1. Foreclosures hurt everyone’s home values
2. Foreclosures are at the root of the banking credit freeze harming our economy
3. What POSSIBLE constructive point is behind this question? I’ve never received free cheese from a food bank but I’m not juvenile enough to whine about that being unfair.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 18, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
R Mutt, I am with you. The credit card companies are out of control. Obama gives them billions of our money and they jack-up out interest rates. I thank god I own my home outright it’s not much but it’s mine.
Posted by: Tina | February 18, 2009, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
Posted by: samhiguchi | Feb 18, 2009 5:12:49 PM
Jake, I have a question for the big O, who bails me out when I go broke bailing everyone else out….
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Don’t be so selfish.If people aren’t bailed out the money that you are hoarding won’t be worth a penny!
Posted by: fempharoh | Feb 18, 2009 5:28:16 PM
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Does this mean I’m going to have to spend time in Gulag…
Posted by: samhiguchi | February 18, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
When one uses credit cards they have made an economic deal with the devil.
When you buy things on credit you are using someone else’s money and are required to repay it.
Unless it is an emergency, stop using the cards and pay off your existing debt as soon as possible.
Posted by: Don'tUseThem | February 18, 2009, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Obama needs more than just teleprompters.
Another aid will be added to help Obama answer questions.
Posted by: Michelle | February 18, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
The idea i liked better was to forclose on them all and buy them out on the other side and rent em to the homeowner.
But then the banks would lose out and we cant have that can we?
Posted by: infoseeking | February 18, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
infoseeking: “The idea i liked better was to forclose on them all and buy them out on the other side and rent em to the homeowner. ”
Good lord, I tend to think federal government is the most efficient vehicle for many services, but landlord to millions? Unless they’re soldiers, just hell no. I don’t want those $1k toilets going into a rental in Phoenix thanks.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 18, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
“Either work with The President Think Anew OR SHUT THE HELL UP!”
Wow. Just wow. Yes, we can! Hope! Change!
Posted by: MIA | February 18, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
question #7: Will the mortgage bailout funds be equally apportioned to all states, adjusted for population?
Posted by: mad | February 18, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
“When you buy things on credit you are using someone else’s money and are required to repay it.”
Absolutely.
But at what rate?
At least if you borrow money from the mob, the rate stays the same.
Money borrowed at 8% that is required to be paid back at 29%, for no good reason, IS A CRIME.
TELL YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY:
8% maximum rate or BOYCOTT PAYMENT!!!
You can put it in escrow till they come around. ; )
Posted by: R Mutt | February 18, 2009, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
mad: “question #7: Will the mortgage bailout funds be equally apportioned to all states, adjusted for population?”
? How does this make any sense at all? This isn’t trying to be fair, like we’re handing out candy to a crowd of toddlers. This is designed to deal with a specific economic problem. Didn’t you ever get the “life isn’t fair” lesson?
Next you’ll start agitating that the Southern States quit sucking up all the Federal welfare funds because it’s not fair they get 30-40% more money from the Feds than they pay in.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 18, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
JHW, it is a legitimate question of funding mechanisms.
Posted by: mad | February 18, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Instead of these 2 idiots asking questions, why don’t they come up with solutions.
Posted by: Jwench | February 18, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Q: Will there be any mechanism to control mortgage rates to people buying new mortgages or who have ARMs and are paying their mortgages now?
If the banks are asked to lower rates and receive less money from millions of homeowners, they are going to look to make money elsewhere and protect themselves in the future.
I understand the idea is to keep my home price up by helping others stay out of foreclosure, but am I going to lose the difference when the banks and the government turn to me to fund this thing?
Posted by: MayBee | February 18, 2009, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Q: What limits will there be on people who take assistance if they try to take out home equity loans/2nd mortgages in the future?
Posted by: MayBee | February 18, 2009, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Ha.. I love #1. Why should we be forced to pay other people’s bills. Sheesh.
Posted by: Why are we in this handbasket? | February 18, 2009, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
I bought a new car a year ago for $20,000. When I finish paying off my loan I will have paid over $25,000 for the car.
When I sell it I will be lucky to get $10,000 for it.
Boo-hoo! Bail me out-I didn’t make a profit on my car.
QUESTION: Why do people think they are owed a profit when they sell their house???
Posted by: Debrah S. | February 18, 2009, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
All of you asking for ideas.. I have some. How about we extend 4% mortgages to anyone who wants to refi (and that includes the population who are paying their loans and new home mortgages). If you can afford the house on a 30 or even 40 year fixed… problem solved. If you can’t, then you can’t afford the home. What we are against is RESETING principal amounts. If you contracted to pay 500K for the McMansion… and you can’t afford it on a 30 year loan at 4%… well tough. We arent lowering the principal to 300K just so you can stay in the home, while 90% of the population bought reasonable homes they could afford. That, my liberal friends, is going TOO FAR.
Posted by: Here is a solution | February 18, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Billions to ACORN is completely relevant and necessary.
Who else will sign up Disney characters and goldfish to assure BO is elected in 2012?
Posted by: sammy | February 18, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
VP,
Really, you know the answers to the questions? Can you give them to me here?
jhw539
You do understand these guys are politicians? Their party was just not as good at as Obama’s party was this election. The questions are still valid. The point behind question 1 is why should those who played by the rules have to subsidize those who did not. This is just another re-distribution of wealth plan.
Posted by: Kelly | February 18, 2009, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
We are rewarding the banks that wrote the bad loans.
We are rewarding the people that lied about their incomes and/or got themselves into homes way above their means thinking they were going to live for free and turn a quick profit speculating on property.
Great, just great.
How about when these banks and people sell their troubled properties that any profits made go back to the U.S. Treasury?
Posted by: Will Stanton | February 18, 2009, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Now I know we’ve been spelling their names wrong all this while.It should read ‘John Bonehead’ instead of ‘John Boehner’ and ‘Eric Coconut’ instead of Eric Cantor.’Quite a good reflection their brain power. Don’t you all agree?
Posted by: EyesWideOpen | February 18, 2009, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
“It has ZERO relevance to the problem or the solution”
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Knowing how $275,000,000,000 is going to be apportioned is always relevent, regardless of the problem or solution.
Posted by: mad | February 18, 2009, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
gm, your two senators got to participate because they agreed to the bill. If they were against it they would have been left out. They agreed because the bill is suppose to stimulate alot of jobs in Maine. So I guess if people loose their jobs they are suppose to move to Maine and get one. I don’t understand why all the bashing is going on. These seem like valid questions to me but then again I’m not a dem willing to blindly agree with and except as gospel everything this president says just because he said it. How sad for you dems who can’t think for yourselves and take everything the dems tell you as the only truth.
Posted by: notafan | February 18, 2009, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Other channels were reporting this afternoon that they had actually written the letter and come up with their questions (gearing up for and foreshadowing their opposition) BEFORE they’d even seen the plan, which makes sense since Obama clearly answered #3, and IMO, a couple of the other questions as well. Perhaps the reason reporters asked #6 is because that question wasn’t addressed. I agree with other commenters that the ACORN issue has been debunked and is nothing more than a partisan battle cry. I think it’s important that everyone asks questions but the tone of a couple of these seems combative rather than bipartisan and ready to come to the table with actual solutions.
Posted by: alysonluv | February 18, 2009, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
mad: “Knowing how $275,000,000,000 is going to be apportioned is always relevent, regardless of the problem or solution.”
You want to know if the money will be apportioned by population when the bill is specifically targeted to deal with foreclosures. There is no relationship between population and foreclosures that I am aware of. I stand by my originally assessment of that being (charitably) an irrelevant questions. (It’s not even a matter of fairness since population is not corrolated with taxes paid.)
Posted by: jhw539 | February 18, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
alysonluv
Well if the questions have been answered already, it shouldn’t take anytime for the President to provide the answers again. Let’s all wait for that.
Posted by: Kelly | February 18, 2009, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Good Grief! None of it is any good. I would rather that my 401K made 10% instead of lost 30%. It just isn’t fair at all, I played by the rules and my money is gone.
Get a grip folks, this bad and we are paying for it if we like it or not; one way or the other there is no escaping it.
As for me I would rather get this economy rolling as quickly as possible. I do not see that 11,000,000 people defaulting on their homes as speeding up the economy, I also do not see as stopping the hemorrhaging of TAX money going to the banks.
Posted by: Thinking | February 18, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Instead of these two twits bashing everything Obama does, why don’t they sit down and come up with something useful instead of stupid questions, most of which they already have the answers to.
Posted by: Jwench | February 18, 2009, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
All of these so-described unanswered questions is why the republicans folded their arms and did nothing to help those who put them in public office for 8 years.Now that something is about happen.Its time to score a political point by asking stupid questions like “”1. What will your plan do for the over 90 percent of homeowners who are playing and paying by the rules?” Really are over 90 percent of homeonwers in their homes? Perhaps,these guys are dreaming.It feels hopeless to have deal with the bickering of good-for-nothing house members and there’s a whole bunch of them hovering all over the place.Obviously,they lied to their constituents.
Posted by: EyesWideOpen | February 18, 2009, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
As for me I would rather get this economy rolling as quickly as possible
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OK, but just because Obama came up with a plan, it doesn’t make it good. It doesn’t mean the economy will get rolling if we do what Obama wants just because he is popular right now with voters.
I’d rather there be questions asked, and answered. A good plan can stand up to scrutiny, and may even be improved by it.
Posted by: MayBee | February 18, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
I am so glad all you liberals think we are entitled to a house no matter what we make or what we did to get it.
Posted by: Cassandra Washington | February 18, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Whether its Obama or someone else,it would be travesty not to do anything under these circumstances.More so,I’m pretty sure he’d welcome some ideas from the right quarters.Not questions suggesting he should do nothing but play safe while the plague spreads ad kills all of us including ‘bonehead’ and ‘coconut’.C’mon get real.
Posted by: EyesWideOpen | February 18, 2009, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
jhw, you assume a great deal.
Posted by: mad | February 18, 2009, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
We can keep arguing (like Republicans) about every aspect of the plan until we get completely decimated by this Tsunami. We will never have a plan that is good for each and every one of us. Time is running out on us; what Obama is doing although not perfect is reasonable. If you have better ideas, I am sure he will be glad to lissten to you. I am not a Obamaite, but I see sincerity and level-headedness in him, which I have not seen in a politician for a long time, certainly not Bush.
Posted by: VP | February 18, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
To put it some other way:What’s the idea behind the questions? If you have an idea throw it out.There need to be a solution not sarcasm.Its unproductive.
Posted by: EyesWideOpen | February 18, 2009, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
“3. Will individuals who misrepresented their income or assets on their original mortgage application be eligible to get the taxpayer funded assistance under your plan? ”
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If the president answered this question today, did he say who was going to make the determination?
Posted by: mad | February 18, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Mad,
Question #3 does not supercede question # 1 which is a fallacious misrepresentation that shows the questioners are clearly out of touch.
Posted by: EyesWideOpen | February 18, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
The business world routinely brainstorms solutions as well as anticipated issues. All questions are considered.
Question #1 in no way negates any other consideration.
Posted by: mad | February 18, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
“Who else will sign up Disney characters and goldfish to assure BO is elected in 2012?”
Someone please explain to Sammy the difference from signing Mickey Mouse on a voter registration sheet and showing up with ears and no shirt on singing M-I-C-K-E-Y at one’s polling place.
Posted by: Ryan C | February 18, 2009, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
It’s certainly hypocritical that Cantor would be demanding transparency after his wife’s bank was a recipient of 267 million dollars from the Paulson TARP bailout, which Cantor helped steer. Even though the bank, New York Private Bank and Trust, didn’t need the money, the Treasury Department was convinced it was eligible for some additional capital.
Think of the 24/7 media coverage it would have been if Diane Cantor happened to be the spouse of the Majority Whip. But there’s been nothing to little to nothing about it. Girls and boys, there’s a big, under reported world outside the small world of Disney.
Posted by: kathy | February 18, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
truthseeker, the media hasn’t been independent since it started campagining for Obama. Where have you been? It is laughable that the dems always bash Tapper because he dares question the policies and programs of Obama but no one, not one dem, ever said or says anything about the media who do nothing but gush over and glorify Obama. By the way, abc will delete any post that criticizes the dems but allows every and all post that criticize the repubs.
Posted by: notafan | February 18, 2009, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
Give Jake some credit—he’s not asking questions for the Republicans and he is by far one of the more independent thinkers out there. Are we forgeting that the media and Hollywood is in the tank for Obama? BRAVO Jake, you’re a hero in my book and thank you for not swooning when the Chosen One and His Army approach.
Posted by: Truthsayer | February 18, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Don’t play race card here, please. Banks were encouraged to lend to red-line areas in 2003 in the name of fairness and the need for housing for those in what is called the lower class.
That would be fine except they got taken because the homes were overvalued and they were under qualified. When the property values went bust, they lost their shirts. The banks thought they would survive unscathed, but they were wrong and the whole world is suffering.
Posted by: mary t. | February 18, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
Another day, another mess. These are valid questions that will not be answered.
Posted by: Sigmonde | February 18, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
mad: You said: “Will the mortgage bailout funds be equally apportioned to all states, adjusted for population?”
I assumed you meant what you said. That may indeed be too much to ask for.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 18, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
mary t.:”Banks were encouraged to lend to red-line areas in 2003″
If you are referring to the Community Reinvestment Act, it was implemented in 1977 and last had legislative changes in 1999. It’s not too long a read – look it up. He in no way forces banks to underestimate risk or absolves them of their duty to rationally vet loans (other than not allowing a loan to be denied strictly because it is a minority community). The documented FACT is that about 50% of the subprime loans were made by independent mortgage companies NOT effected in any way by the CRA. About another quarter were from banks and subsidiaries only partially under the CRA. The facts to support your talking point are conspicuous by their absence.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 18, 2009, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
How does this affect a buyer who purchased a home with a “no doc” loan, who is under water on LTV, and lost his/her job last year, and cannot show sufficient income to refinance the current loan?………………………or……..
What will stop owners from “gaming” the system by letting their mortgage become delinquent?
Posted by: Sigmonde | February 18, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
kathy:It’s certainly hypocritical that Cantor would be demanding transparency after his wife’s bank was a recipient of 267 million dollars from the Paulson TARP bailout, which Cantor helped steer.
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Cantor did nothing to help steer the TARP funds. Cantor was one of the voices fighting to change TARP I before it was passed by the Democratic Congress, and he pushed for transparency for it from the start.
His wife worked for a subsidiary of a bank that took the funds. She had nothing to do with the parent company accepting the funds.
Posted by: MayBee | February 18, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
To further point out how specious the attack on Eric Cantor’s wife is, the CEO of the bank, who changed the structure of his bank to be eligible for the Democratic Congress-supported TARP I program, was a Barack Obama donor.
Posted by: MayBee | February 18, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
mad: You said: “Will the mortgage bailout funds be equally apportioned to all states, adjusted for population?”
I assumed you meant what you said. That may indeed be too much to ask for.
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I do mean exactly the question that was asked. You have assumed my motive for asking.
$275,000,000,000 is to be disbursed. Asking for specifics is not a partisan exercise.
You said the people getting the money were idiots. We need to proceed carefully. I am very careful with expenditures, whether personal, business or civic.
Posted by: mad | February 18, 2009, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
Not only that, but Howard Milstein (the CEO of the bank which employs Eric Cantor’s wife) is a $50,000 donor to Barack Obama’s Inaguration Fund. As were 3 other members of his family.
And you want to try to dirty up Eric Cantor with this guy? Good luck.
Posted by: MayBee | February 18, 2009, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
MayBee- Eric Cantor didn’t call for transparency, but for a mortgage insurance plan as an alternative to the TARP. The calls for transparency were from the Democrats and specifically, Pelosi, who were responsible for setting up the congressional oversight committee headed by Elizabeth Warren. Cantor is also known for bringing in the bipartisan support for TARP and voting for it.
His wife worked for a subsidiary of the New York Bank and Trust, the Virginia Private Bank Trust. Interestingly, It bills itself as a “haven for wealthy individuals and families.” The parent bank received 9 times the median amount given to companies participating in the bailout, even though it was solvent to begin with. It’s incredulous that Cantor and his wife, who is a director of the subsidiary, claim that they never new about the parent company applying for loan. It’s also hard to believe that the 267.2 million largesse of the bailout did not have any profitable effects for her bank.
It doesn’t really matter if the head of New York Private Bank and Trust was a supporter of Obama or not. For one, the first round of funds were dispersed before he won the election in November if I remember correctly, and TARP was thrust upon us by the Bush administration along with its disbursements.
Posted by: kathy | February 18, 2009, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm
And you want to try to dirty up Eric Cantor with this guy? Good luck.
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Again, what does that have to do with anything? Obama wasn’t behind the first implementation in September of ’08 and the disbursements of TARP. Paulson and Bush were.
Presenting facts isn’t “trying to dirty someone up.” Good night.
Posted by: kathy | February 18, 2009, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
kathy:For one, the first round of funds were dispersed before he won the election in November if I remember correctly, and TARP was thrust upon us by the Bush administration along with its disbursements.
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Senator Barack Obama voted for the first bailout, and participated in the crafting of the bill. He spoke in support of the passage of the bailout bill.
It was passed by both the Democratic controlled House and the Democratic controlled Senate.
You are talking about the actions of Obama’s fundraiser and his wealthy donor.
Cantor’s wife is merely an employee of the man who generously donated to Senator Barack Obama, Paulson Bailout Supporter.
Posted by: MayBee | February 18, 2009, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
So once again the responsible people take care of the irresponsible people who lived above their means.
Posted by: Peach | February 18, 2009, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Since young people don’t understand socialism and the education system is so bad, let’s do this to teach them what Obama is doing by this redistribution of wealth:
The next time your wait staff brings the bill in a restaurant, tell them they gave good service and deserve a tip.
But in keeping with Obama’s socialistic worldview, you are going to do your part and you have spotted someone in the restaurant who looks more needy and THEY are getting the tip $$ instead.
Posted by: Peach | February 18, 2009, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
President Obama:
“But I want to be very clear about what this plan will not do: It will not rescue the unscrupulous or irresponsible by throwing good taxpayer money after bad loans. It will not help speculators — it will not help speculators who took risky bets on a rising market and bought homes not to live in but to sell. It will not help dishonest lenders who acted irresponsibly, distorting the facts — distorting the facts and dismissing the fine print at the expense of buyers who didn’t know better. And it will not reward folks who bought homes they knew from the beginning they would never be able to afford. So I just want to make this clear: This plan will not save every home.”
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What is the process for making these determinations?
Who will have the final determination for who is a worthy lender and a worthy mortgage holder?
Posted by: mad | February 18, 2009, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Peach,
Bush moved the country to socialism in his last few months than any president in history. Got it? Bush!!!
Obama is just trying to clean up HIS mess.
BTW, you can start your teaching class with the 135 Republicans that voted for the TARP!
Posted by: JV | February 18, 2009, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
Eric Cantor? The same guy who tried to avoid paying taxes on an “under the table” scheme involving Jack Abramoff?
Posted by: JV | February 18, 2009, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
truthseeker, the media hasn’t been independent since it started campagining for Obama. Where have you been? It is laughable that the dems always bash Tapper because he dares question the policies and programs of Obama but no one, not one dem, ever said or says anything about the media who do nothing but gush over and glorify Obama. By the way, abc will delete any post that criticizes the dems but allows every and all post that criticize the repubs.
Posted by: notafan | Feb 18, 2009 7:28:03 PM
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Maybe you should point me to all this supposed “campaigning for Obama.” The media that I’ve been following has been quite critical (arguably overly critical) of Obama. There’s certainly no shortage of Obama bashing in the media (or on ABC comment threads for that matter).
Also, apparently, ABC doesn’t like for anyone to criticize them either. They deleted my critical post. That speaks volumes to me. The media (Tapper, that includes you, Bud) wants to BE critical, but it can’t take criticisms?
Posted by: TruthSeekr | February 19, 2009, 2:49 am 2:49 am
This is simply a plan to regulate the rate of foreclosures….To let some hang on just awhile longer….giving Obama and his posse the appearance of success….so they can concentrate on flim flaming us into the next stimulas bill…..
He’s only got two years to bankrupt America…..
Posted by: J Moore | February 19, 2009, 3:43 am 3:43 am
Obama got two years to bankrupt America?
I guess a country losing 600,000 jobs in a month, and Iraq gaining an $80 billion surplus from the war isn’t enough?
Posted by: Steve | February 19, 2009, 4:17 am 4:17 am
From reading these comments, it’s obvious that we can now not only hold Obama accountable for the performance of the economy from here on out – we can also hold his followers accountable since they resent any questioning of Obama and are cheerleading this as a stellar plan that we should all get firmly behind.
I for one will take no pleasure in telling them “I told you so” when the repercussions of Obama’s economic solutions become apparent. By then, we will all be wallowing in the remnants of our once-great country together.
Posted by: marylou | February 19, 2009, 4:55 am 4:55 am
Why do people that buy a house think it is their right to sell it for more than the price they paid for it?
Is there some law that says homeowners must get back more than original purchase price?
If a I buy a new car after five years I sell it at a loss from the original price. Should I get a bail out from the government?
Most people don’t realize that with the mortgage interest payments on a house they usually end up paying twice as much as the initial house price.
For example, a $250,000 home on 6.5%, 30-year mortgage will end up costing nearly $600,000. But the owner thinks if he sells it for more than the initial $250,000 price he is making a profit.
There needs to be some rethinking of house ownership and using it as an investment.
Posted by: Donna Whitson | February 19, 2009, 6:58 am 6:58 am
Cantor votes for the TARP bill, his wifes company gets $267 million.
The stimulus bill does not direct funds to his wife s bank. Cantor, and the rest of the house Republicans, vote against it.
As Father Guido Sarducci says, “Coincidencia??? Coincidencia.
Posted by: arvid0823 | February 19, 2009, 7:09 am 7:09 am