Bottled Scorpions in Obama’s Budget

Healthcare right now; emission limits later this year or in next year’s budget. Thanks Mr. S.

I’m all for health care, but not for funding it by decreasing the deduction that “wealthy” individuals can take on charitable gifts. That’s not going to help anyone.

It is past time for both plans. This economy is showing why we need universal healthcare. I am afraid, however, that, like the stimulus, the WH will bow to pressure from the Congress and not do what truly needs to be done.

I’m following George on Twitter, I’ve been ready for health care reform for years. Why should money decide who gets to live and die.
I”d like all medical be free to everyone and the only way that would happen is to socialize medicine.

Here’s the fixed link: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/02/the-budget-heal.html

Why bottled scorpions? Why not bottled dreams? Bottled needs? Bottled change? Bottled choices?
I understand the media’s need to create controversy — but why equate either solving significant health care issues or world health issues to venomous, life destroying creatures.
Personally, I reject your need to do that, and frankly, I expect more.
Why not moderate a discussion on the merits?

global warming can’t be ignored but health care (coupled with health education)needs the lead now.

“Am off to visit a neighbor who has had a triple bypass.
He will leave the hospital and pay nothing. It’s called National Health. As a non-EU Yank I pay $450 per year. Visits to doctor, hospital care and all medicines are free. If this poor country can provide universal free healthcare, why can’t the USA? And this country ranks second only to France as top in health care. The USA is down, just ahead of third world countries.”
Wow, Molly, what wonderful country are you in? I’ve never heard of a country in which doctors worked for free, drugs cost nothing to manufacture, hospitals cost nothing to run… it sounds amazing that everything is “free” there.
You didn’t happen to get there by steering towards the ‘second to the right, and straight on till morning’, did you?

I want us to protect our planet as much as human beings can.
That said, I would really like the media to disclose the scientists and NASA astronomers that also point to Sun spots and solar flares. They are having an impact, too.
Obama and Gore want to blame us Americans because we drive SUV’s, but there are many more factors.
Keep destroying business and industry and you will see your advertising revenue decrease. Think about that, Mr. Media.

The best health care is a planet with a sustainable environment. I vote emissions limits.

Health care reform strikes me as the higher priority. Unless Congress addresses entitlements, the combination of our current massive deficit spending and the accelerating Baby Boomer retirements will eat our tax base alive. The interest on the national debt, the Pentagon budget of whatever size and entitlement spending alone will more and more crowd out discretionary spending something fierce. I will remain skeptical until someone points out where the new middle class tax base will come from. The wealthy cannot support the level of government commitments outlined by the President on Tuesday. I see health care as a growth industry with potential to create lots more jobs, particularly with the aging of America. Energy, on the other hand, seems to me to be more of a trade-off on the jobs front. Green energy production of whatever kind will create new plants and related jobs, but it also will reduce employment in the “old” coal burning plants, nuclear plants and higher-carbon emission plants sacrificing those jobs. The numbers are so hard to make work under any scenario absent massive spending cuts or tax increases.

I am just your average jonnie, maybe a little better just a little then the average Joe. I pay my taxes like a good American, for thing I did not agree with for example
The war in Iraq I repeat IRAQ, the American spying program, torture I don’t condone. I could go on and on, but never once did I stop paying my taxes. Now we have
a very popular, component president who wants to reinvest in America and it people and you all are coming out of the wood works, you’re out rage with his proposed
budget and stim package.
I have a 29 year old productive daughter and son in law; I am going to be a grandmother in a few months.
I to have vested interest in the next generation future, I want their tomorrows to better them mine. We send money all over
the world, why can’t we start taking care of our home and it people.
It is coming increasely clear to me that if this president success, the right wing knows it will be erailavent especially after
The last 8 years. I think the right will do everything in its power to bring down this administration even if it cause
devastation to this great country its economy and it people. In the word of Gov. Bobby Jendal (I pair a phase)
who amount us would do that to the next generation

George — This is important !!!
There are several scientific comments that I would like to make about “Global
Warming” and “Global Climate Change”. There is a basic principal
involved that has been overlooked by most of the non-scientific media.
These are covered in great detail in the references presented at the
conclusion of this discussion.
FIRST — is that this is NOT a new effect. It has occurred five times
during the past 500,000 years! The basic cause is Methane (CH4) and
NOT man-made Carbon Dioxide (CO2). The present global warming
cycle began about the time man was crossing the frozen land bridge
from Siberia to North America.
We need to understand the sources and mechanics of Methane that
are actually the basic cause of our global warming. Anything that has
grown, ranging from yard clippings to a decaying body, produces
methane as it decomposes. Methane gas from permafrost is a decay
product. Methane gas from the deep ocean (methane hydrate) is totally different.
Methane gas from oil wells is yet a very different composition. These
must all be recognized as such and understood as to their manner of
existence, production, and/or release.
Deep Sea Methane appears to be the waste product of a bacteriological
process and is therefore a renewable resource! ( See Reference 2).
It is a relative clean product of our environment. It has recently been
produced (as clean natural gas) in continuous commercial quantities
by Japanese & American scientists in Canada in 2008. It is this Methane
gas that has been bubbling up, for eons,from the continental shelfs
around the world that is the real culprit
and basic cause of our present situation.
Oil well Methane gas is a very dirty gas mixture — it is methane with
huge amounts of sulfur and other noxious gases mixed with it. The
Methane often mentioned in the media as “Bubbling up from Undersea
Permafrost” is a decay product. It is NOT from a Hydrate!
NEXT — Drastic Global Climate Change has taken place at least FIVE
different times during the last 500,000 years. Our present cycle is
the only one during which man has been a factor! (Ref. 1 & 2). Methane
gas which bubbles up continuously from the deep ocean sources (and
which in turn disassociates into CO2) is the true source of the “Greenhouse
Gas” that has operated in the previous five interglacial cycles — all
of which have been extinction cycles! As will this one!
These five previous cycles are NOT man made effects, nor is the
present cycle, and it IS TOO LATE to change our present cycle, we
may actually now be past the peak. We can only learn to adapt!
We cannot STOP the process although we might slow
it down for a few years, which in geological time is nothing.
We MUST ADAPT to survive! ADAPT! ADAPT ! ADAPT !
REFERENCES
There are several prime references associated with the material that I
have covered, if ever so briefly.
(1) EARTH’s CHANGING CLIMATE. Lecture Series by Dr. Richard
Wolfson, the Benjamin F. Wissler Professor of Physics at Middlebury
College. This is a six hour lecture series (12 segments of 30 minutes
each) on two DVDs produced by The Teaching Company of Chantilly VA
20151-1232.
http://www.TEACH12.com
This series covers in-depth detail of the science and methodology of
climate change. It is not an advocacy program. Interestingly, Dr.
Wolfson does not even mention Methane-Clatherate in this lecture
series — knowledge on that subject is almost too new to have been
included. It was first discovered on a moon of Venus by NASA about
1985. At the time we did not even know that it existed on Earth!
(2) FIRE IN THE ICE. Quarterly Journal , U.S.Department of Energy,
Office of Fossil Energy, National Energy Technology Laboratory. Also
known as Methane Hydrate Newsletter. Recommended reading is all
issues to current issue from about 2000 forward. This is the best of
several technical journals devoted to the science of Methane
Clatherates.
http://www.netl.doe.gov/about/index.html
(3) HIGH TIDE by Mark Lynas. Picador, 175 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY.
10010. ISBN 0-312-30365-3. This well written book clarifies the problems
of Global Warming “… The American People have been subjected to one
of the most pervasive misinformation campaigns ever undertaken … “
http://www.picadorusa.com
(4) WITH SPEED AND VIOLENCE [Why Scientists Fear Tipping Points in
Climate Change] by Fred Pearce. Beacon Press; 25 Beacon Street;
Boston, MA 02108. © 2007. “We are on the precipice of climate system
tipping points beyond which there is no redemption”
http://www.beacon.org
(5) Natural Gas Hydrate Studies in Canada; Hyndman & Dallimore from
The Recorder, 26,11-20, 2001, Canadian Society of Exploration
Geophysicists.
JCSpilman, P.E. (Ret.) Huntsville, AL
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Chuck,
Iagree you have point with respect of those that elect not to help themselves. However what do you think the percentage is of XXX. Do we exclude all for a few, and do nothing or could there be prevision put in place to make sure the program is targeted those who pay taxes in this country.

“Health care does not matter when your crops die, your cities flood, and dry forests are consumed by fire. Let’s work on global warming and stop being stupid. The coal companies can kiss my you know what.”
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reason ,
Yes, the world is going to end. The economy is going do die! Losing the Auto companies will collapse the country!
Sense a pattern here???????
Crisis, Crisis, Crisis, …Catasthrope…, Crisis, Crisis, Crisis.
Every week this Pres. backs up another set of trucks to the treasury and rides away with another half a trillion or more.
Hey, Screw Global warming/Climate Change!
2012 is the end of the World anyway!!! Just check the Myan calendar!

Obama submits the largest budget in the history of the United States. Show us how he intends to pay for universal health care, without increasing taxes or the national debt. Even though I make less than $75,000, I can see my taxes going up. Like Bill Clinton, he’ll try hard, but couldn’t do the tax cut. Obama ran as a liberal, acted like a moderate for about two weeks, and is back to his liberal ways.

I guess my quibble is that COBRA still requires payment of the entire premium. It wouldn’t matter much to people who can’t afford to make the steep premiums on COBRA. If this is extended, then COBRA should be subsidized, and I would also like to see more provisions for caregivers. Unemployment insurance for people on leave to care for an ailing relative or child would be nice. Universal health care would be the ideal, as free market and basic human needs don’t seem to mesh well

The first issue regarding healthcare should be to stop allowing the production of things that make people sick. If diseases are prevented, healthcare costs go way down. In pennsylvania an army installation dumped radium into the water a short distance from a school. Four children got bone cancer as a result. Treatments will exceed 4 million dollars at least. Fluoridated water has been shown to be more cancer causing than lead, yet it is put into the water to help industrial business. It disrupts the thyroid gland which causes a myriad of diseases. Europe banned the practice a decade ago and enjoy better health than we do as a result. It’s time to ask why Americans are so sick and stop practices that sicken us. To slove a problem you have to go to the source of that problem.

If we would just raise the minimal wage to $75 we would not have this problem.

The key here for a successful budget is to get the workers to support it. Define workers? Anyone that uses their own physical being to expel energy in supporting our way of life. That makes a worker a very large group, so if you take in more resources than you need, the government should be able to tax you in order to benefit our society. We all need to understand it is the worker that provides for the worker, that provides for the worker. If you do nothing to expel resources to support the worker, you should be limited in your ability to vote for the country’s leadership. That alone should be incentive enough for people to be a worker.

As per Governor Dean’s response on healthcare, “President Obama is not proposing a new plan that people won’t understand. What he is proposing is if you want what you have you can keep it. If you want to have private insurance you can. If you want to have Medicare you can have that too.” It sure does not sound like socialized medicine to me, like GOP tend to fabricate to their base.

MORAL COMPASS GONE,NATION LOST IN WOODS
Personal Experience: My father had an unknown brain aneurysm 2 weeks before his Dec 15th scheduled surgery. They saved his life, and put him on non-FDA approved medicine to thin his blood and keep the pressure low in his veins so the blood vessel in his head could heal. The heart doctor moved his heart surgery from Dec. 15 to January 15th. 30 days later. My dad had a major brain explosion and was on experimental drugs. A “test case” for the FDA. I asked my dad if this was wise, his blood so thinned and is state so weakened. What he told me is ” I am a professional whom ppl come to seek advice. I sought this man’s advice and although i am scared (never before had i heard that from my father!) I am going to take it. I am not a doctor.” My dad bravely went into surgery January 15th cracking jokes and singing little songs and they lost him on the table. They couldn’t keep his blood pressure high enough for an open-heart surgery. Because of the experimental drugs in his system to keep the blood pressure low, he died. Guess what? We paid almost 100,000 dollars although the “advice” this doctor gave my dad took away the bread-winning patriarch of our family, a man so loved by his family, friends, and ppl who just met him, that the nurses at the hospital set up a fund in his name that benefits renewed teaching for nurses (ironically NOT doctors)every year. The “doctor” still wanted full payment on the bill. Our family paid in more ways than one.
Now when a mechanic destroys your car when it was just running rough, you do not have to pay. In fact he pays you. When you call in the refigerator repairman and he dismantles your working, yet old ‘fridge and can’t get it back together, you don’t have to pay. When the lawn mowing kid down the street comes to your house and mows your lawn and runs over the family dog, you don’t have to pay. Part of what is wrong with the medical community is this sense of immunity from consequence. At the very minimum, there needs to be a check and balance system in place so they are answerable, at least financially if not morally, to the ppl they “experiment” on. One would think that for being a “test subject” that resulted in death, at the very least the bill would be waived. The biggest problem with ALL aspects of American business is the loss of it’s “moral compass.” The insurance companies, who rule over many aspects of our lives here in America, are the real culprits. They force ppl to treat each other the way they do these days. No courtesy, no manners, no “going the extra mile” for anybody anymore. I’ll tell you, the same father that got taken from us was the same guy who would pull over at 2am coming back from a fishing trip to help a fella whos truck had broken down. He broke out all his tools and worked on that truck till 8 in the morning when me and my brother woke up to the two men having coffee from a campfire and laughing about the “hell of a night” they just had wrestling with that motor. I just wonder what “moral compass” the doctor was using when he went ahead with the decision to commit my dad to that heart surgery, then charge us all that money.
America’s business “moral compass” has just vanished in this litigious society we live in, resulting in a landscape of paranoid ppl who would rather shoot their neighbors than get to know them.
Healthcare coverage would help mollify this, as ppl in this country would feel that their quality of life was better, that everyone was valued, not that just those with insurance are worthy of health and life. I am all for coverage for everyone in this great country, so we can all feel like we are being taken care of. I think this would be the start of a new American Era, as ppls mental attitude would change. Stop paying all this money to the insurance companies, and stop paying doctors more than they are worth. Note: the actual surgeon who as directed by the “doctor” was a real hero. The guy stayed at the hospital for 3 days sleeping in the faculty room, was at my dads bedside 20 hours a day and did a second surgery to try to save his waning life. He thought the advice to have the surgery was bad, but my dad wanted it. Thanks for reading this, i just wanted to share that story, it is just a piece of history that is part of what makes up the composition of my family and I. Many blessings to you and yours.

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