Gates and Mullen Say Surge Success Provided ‘Opportunities’ for Today’s Announcement

EAT THAT OBAMA..I bet he fires Gates tomorrow

Synopsis of the article: Thank you President Bush. The left demanded we lose. You stood firm. That’s what a REAL leader does.

Victory in Iraq!

Gates? Petraeus? Odierno? Why listen to the rantings of those right-wingers when, as Kat points out, we can rely on the General Accounting Office for a more trustworthy assessment of the political-military facts on the ground in Iraq? I’m sure the Commander-in-Chief will be getting briefed daily by the strategists at the GAO.

Silly J – What do you mean “So you would rather that we killed them instead of give the money?” We did kill them, and kill them, and kill them some more. And when those in control finally realized it wasn’t going to work, they pulled out their smoke and mirrors and decided to just pay them not to fight, and they hid that little fact behind a slight increase in troop strength so that people like you would think they were brilliant war strategists. If they and you are so brilliant, why wait 5 years to implement a winning strategy? LOL

I see that LibertyRulz is the military genius here. I’m going to Google right now to find all the left-wing recommendations from five years ago that we whip out our checkbooks so as to win the war. Hell, everybody knew that was all that was needed, right?
And everyone with experience on the battlefield in Iraq knows that the Surge had nothing to do with our success. They’re just engaged in a vast right-wing conspiracy to keep that a dirty little secret. But they can’t fool LibertyRulz, nosiree?
“The Iraq war is lost.”
–Harry Reid, April, 2007

It disgusts me how Obama takes credit for simply following the plan. We aren’t getting out of Iraq any sooner or later than we would’ve under McCain (or even Bush, for that matter). But taking credit for the inevitable has always been a useful liberal trait. I especially enjoy the liberals who are upset they weren’t allowed to “press the genocide button” this time, like Vietnam.

“It disgusts me how Obama takes credit for simply following the plan.”
When its the plan he proposed and campaigned for, he gets to take credit.
“We aren’t getting out of Iraq any sooner or later than we would’ve under McCain (or even Bush, for that matter)”
Try again McCain and Obama differed substantially on when any troops would be withdrawn.
Bush followed Obama’s lead.

“Let me say this as plainly as I can: By Aug. 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end,” ………..
Obama is the first President to be able to predict, to the very day, the end of a war.

I’ve never seen, in my life, more posts by people who have absolutely no clue. These flag officers dedicate their life to defending this country, spent more years in that role then probably most of you have been alive, and you have the nerve to post things like this?
You can say whatever you want, thanks to the dedication of these men who served, years away from their family putting thier life on the line, but make no mistake your words are disgracefull and offensive to those of us that have served and still serve.
The only people who deserve any credit for the success in Iraq are our officers and enlisted who lived the war day in and day out, not fly by ignorance of the TV watchers back here, or the empty words of ignorant politicians.
The melding of politics and national security is the most attrocious development that this country has ever done. That is because the people, and politicians, who are vastly uneducated in national defense and the threats we face, manipulate emotions for political power on the backs of soldiers.
If your furnace is busted, you don’t call on a plumbers opinion. When its national defense and war, you don’t call on a politicians opinion. Take the word of experts in the field, not power hungry politicians.

From the right-wingers at ABC News, July 3, 2008:
“Obama’s openness to adjust his 16-month withdrawal plan was somewhat at odds with the stance he took during a recent ABC News debate. At the time, Obama seemed to stand by his campaign manager’s unambiguous pledge to have troops out of Iraq in 16 months ‘at the most.’”
When Mr. Obama “seems” to stand by an “unambiguous pledge,” stay tuned…

“If your furnace is busted, you don’t call on a plumbers opinion. When its national defense and war, you don’t call on a politicians opinion. Take the word of experts in the field, not power hungry politician”
OK KR I admit that I agree with some of what you posted however I must point out that it is important that this country’s foreign policy is not decided by the military. They are experts at fighting, not making peace. We need the military to be safe, that’s for sure, but we don’t call the military to make peace. That is the job of diplomats. If the military had been in charge during the Cuban Missile Crisis we probably wouldn’t be here right now.

“WASHINGTON (AP) — Ali Al-Marri, alleged to be a U.S.-based sleeper agent for al-Qaeda, is now facing criminal charges, but the Obama administration is refusing to rule out the future use of indefinite detention for terrorism suspects picked up in the United States.
“The administration urged the Supreme Court on Friday to dismiss al-Marri’s challenge to the president’s authority to detain people in the United States indefinitely and without charges.”
Has the White House been taken over by some frothing right-winger? How can they possibly hold these people without charges? Is there no justice for terrorists in this land?

I was against the invasion of Iraq in the beginning, and think the war was a mistake, but I applaud President Bush’s decision to implement the surge as it provided the military with a sense of success, and preserved the reputation of our armed forces. How horrible if they had returned with their tails between their legs in abject defeat. How devaluing that would have been for all those who sacrificed so much.

The Dali Obama got to act like a big man today at Camp Lejeune due to the efforts of a military plan that he openly opposed, ridiculed and mocked.
Chalk one up to “Audacity!”

The right-wingers at the UK Guardian think The Messiah’s withdrawal plan is reckless and irresponsible:
“President Barack Obama plans to withdraw most major combat troops from Iraq by August 2010. According to reports, Obama will remove about 90,000 combat troops of the current 140,000 soldiers in country, leaving 50,000.
“While it’s nice to see a politician try to keep a core campaign promise, the decision is an unnecessary strategic gamble that will play with both American and Iraqi lives.”
On the other hand, Mrs. Pelosi thinks The One has welshed on his promise…

If we pull out and have to go back in (as Obama has already said we might – which the liberal media has avoided repeating as best they could — Propagandize what they like & Sweeping the rest ‘under the rug’) then unfortunately it may be more like 50 thousand American Lives (instead of 5 thousand) if we have to land troops D-Day style (if we pull out and the area explodes this is very possible – 80% chance) as opposed to already being there.
American Lives were almost invariably saved by dealing with Hussein now, instead of later. If Iran, N Korea, Libya, Syria acted up then Hussein would have just seen it as an opportunity to act up himself (apparently none of you liberals thought about that). We were Ultimately going to have to deal with Hussein eventually, and he had been given enough chances and had the ‘Most Barbaric’ past of any of them (he was a Modern Day Hitler – Bush & Cheney preempted him and most of the world is CLUELESS).
Lets Bust another Myth: — WMD was not Bush’s only Stated reason for dealing with Hussein: His Genocidal Past; Breaking 15+ UN Resolutions over ~ 10 years and refusal to comply on SO many fronts, Including Lighting Up and Firing on our Jets for years (in the N. & S. No Fly Zones) etc, etc. Also since he was captured he has admitted that he was trying to make the World think he had WMD (mostly as a deterrent to Iran, the US & also probably Israel). Do you think that is why Tenet (CIA Chief and a Bill Clinton Appointment) made the ‘Slam Dunk’ Comment. Keep in mind Hussein was putting on a
‘show’ for our overhead satellites.
…….Also, Prior to the ‘First’ Gulf War most all of the ‘So Called’ Experts (many from the UN) said Hussein was ‘at least’ 3 years away from a Nuclear Weapon, but probably more like 5 or 6, maybe 7 or more………. When the inspectors got in they found he was only 9 to 18 Months away…….. This point is HUGE……… Without American boots on the ground how were we ever going to know, and obviously with Hussein’s “Barbaric Past” we were going to have to err on the side of caution (most libs won’t understand this point – it doesn’t suit their politics).
Iran also comes to mind with this point, but I fear Obama will Botch it (the inexperience question or just his naïve belief systems). However, Israel may be the one to deal with Iran and save Obum, and us, from a far worse outcome.

“Even if conquering China was even possible, which I highly doubt, do you really think the American people would have consented to another giant war less than a decade after wwII? Would Russia and the rest of the world tolerated our use of atomic weapons? I think Truman more accurately assessed the situation at this point even though his initial policies toward China may have incited their military involvement.”
Sorry I didn’t reply sooner skip. At the time, an invasion of China, and defeat of China would have been likely instead of unlikely. China had very few modern assets at the time (short of the very good Mig-15), and no Navy to speak of. Militarily, an engagement of China wouldn’t have been a match against the U.S. Also strategically, they were in a poor position, with the vast majority of their organized army in or near the Korean peninsula.
It is true, the US population wasn’t in the mood for another war, but Korea was already a war we were in. When China crossed the river, it became a war with China, whether people wanted to admit it or not.
I seriously doubt we would have dropped nukes on China in the war. If we had a hair trigger to drop nukes, we would have done it in the winter of 52 when US forces were being overrun in northern Korea.
Most military historians would disagree with Trueman’s assessment of the Korean situation, probably label it as mis-managed. It set a precedent that eventually led to the major mistakes of the Vietnam war, instead of fighting for a termed victory we fought for an acceptable outcome.

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