Gitmo Detainee to be Released Next Week

“I am a veteran and I have spent the last five years serving my country,”
Thank you for your service; however The Constitution, over which many have fought and died for, must be also be protected.

Hold on no one even says that is what this person did. Please stop saying everyone held there is part of 9/11 that thinking is how we got where we are today. And the real bad guys never have even served a day. Saudis did that

QUESTION: DID THEY ACT WITH THE RULE OF LAW WHEN THEY KILLED OVER 3,000 PEOPLE. HELL NO!!!

Cue the manufactured outrage from the conservative media and right-wing of the GOP…
Meanwhile, not a peep when Bush was releasing dozens of detainees a year.

Simply unbelievable.

I believe it, I also look for more (if not all) in the coming days…

Ryan C. but you failed to place the blame of the first attack on the White House. Wonder why?

The detainees are being released because the truth is, 90% to 95% had no clear or verifiable ties to any terrorist groups. dah! It was all a ruse to get all you duckies lined up in a row and quacking. Quack! Quack!
See how all of a sudden the so-called terrorists have shifted? They’re not in Iraq anymore? They’re in Africa, Afghanistan and where ever else the players want to lead all you gullibles into believing where they are? Can’t you all see this is just a ploy and play for world domination.

Why try him at all? At the end of World War II we had 400,000 German prisoners here on US soil, and not a single one of them had a trial of any kind. As the Obama administration has already confirmed, it asserts the right (as did Bush) to hold unlawful enemy combatants indefinitely without trial, until the cessation of hostilities.
Those who think that the civil justice system is the only avenue for dealing with these people are simpletons, utterly unschooled in international and US law.

Perhaps Jordan is unaware that each and every detainee now held at Guantanamo (except for those we are willing to release but whose countries will not accept them, or are likely to torture them) has been found by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal, convened in full accord with the Geneva Convention, to be an unlawful enemy combatant. That is not a finding of “guilt,” it is a determination of status, and that status entitles the US to detain them for the duration of hostilities. The Obama administration agrees, so it’s not merely the “Republican” way.
Tell us, Jordan, of what crimes were the 400,000 WWII German prisoners charged? How many of them were found guilty?

anon said: “QUESTION: DID THEY ACT WITH THE RULE OF LAW WHEN THEY KILLED OVER 3,000 PEOPLE. HELL NO!!!”
Amen!!!!! And how did these animals treat our people that they kidnapped? They beheaded their prisoners. Don’t forget that, folks.

Lippold, a Senior Military Fellow at Military Families United, called Mohamed’s release “dangerous” and urged the president to reconsider.
“By Mohamed’s classification as an ‘enemy combatant’,” Lippold said, “the United States is aware that he poses a threat to our country and allies. Instead of maintaining him in custody where justice can be served, President Obama is allowing him to be released to the United Kingdom without condition. This presents a danger that he may rejoin the fight to kill innocent civilians.”
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I can’t rely on 3-4 people to judge the guilt or innocence of another person who has been tortured and keep that person in prison indefinitely. Why can’t they prove it? If they could, should we know all of the details? What a quandry.
My gut tells me that we let him go that without the ability prove his guilt, we lose anyway. It looks shady, unjust, dishonest and un-american and unless we hold true to our American values, the terrorists have already won. Yet, trying to say I could sacrifice someone else for my belief is something I have yet to wrap my head around.

Jordan, they were repatriated at the cessation of hostilities, as the law provides. Get a clue.
Shannon, the “3-4 people” made no determination of guilt or innocence–they made a determination as to the detainees’ status. Just as the German prisoners’ status was determined by the fact that, unlike these men and in accordance with international law, they wore uniforms and conducted themselves in accordance with the laws of war. If you don’t like the process that has been followed, take it up with the Obama administration, which now has custody of the men and has announced its intention to keep them in custody for the duration of these hostilities. And maybe you can mobilize support for a change to the Geneva Convention that authrorizes their detention. Good luck.

For a little more perspective, here’s something I just read from Glenn Greenwald at Slate: “The British government acknowledged that it possessed ‘exculpatory’ evidence — i.e., evidence showing that Mohamed’s confessions were extracted by violently torturing him (including reports it received from the U.S. itself about the circumstances of Mohamed’s interrogations)…”

“…Mohamed, after being captured in 2002, was flown from Pakistan to Morocco on a Gulfstream V aircraft…”
The real crime here is that the Bush administration flew him around on a private jet. They held him under the guise of “protecting the country”, but they were destroying the planet in the process, leaving behind a carbon footprint larger than the crater at Ground Zero. All of these detainees should be released to make room for climate criminals like Bush, GM and Chrysler,Bush again, dairy cows, people who exhale, and Bush.
Love,
Al Gore

You all are accepting without question the detainee’s claim of being tortured by the U.S. Evidence? Is this a credible assertion?
The detainees have learned much about the U.S. legal system, media, NGOs, human rights groups, lawyers with political agendas, and exploiting U.S. domestic politics since they arrived at Gitmo. Their jihad continues through manipulation of the law, through publicity, and through an all too credulous media.
Be skeptical. Just as you take whatever the government says with a grain of salt, so too should you cast a dubious eye on anything detainees have to say.
Most of these detainees were captured on the battlefield in wartime conditions. It’s usually pretty clear who the bad guy is when he’s shooting at you. Even then, guilt/conviction is not assumed. Our soldiers really have better things to do then go around scooping up hundreds of people to detain.
In fact, these days they’d rather not have any prisoners at all.
Anon., service members pledge an oath to defend the Constitution, against all enemies foreign and domestic. The Constitution is the covenant between citizens and our government. The Constitution does not confer constitutional rights on everyone all over the entire world.
One of it’s most important precepts is that government’s principle duty is to ensure the security and safety of it’s citizens. I find most service members have a pretty good understanding of the oath, what it means, and who it applies to.

I don’t give a hoot about “proof”!
How many captured Muslim terrorists held in Guantanamo Bay Prison does this make now?
Is Yobama going to release ALL of these terrorist s.o.b.’s?!!!!!
What is our new President’s plan for War on Terrorism going to be?
Maybe he has no plan to fight terrorism here at home.
I knew there was something about him I didn’t trust.

Hey Jordan….
Go tell THAT to the families of all those who were murdered in those planes and buildings…..lest we all forget….
9/11/01 NYC

“That is, unless your name is Cheney, Bush …or Goebbels!”
Or Obama. They’re being held on his watch now, and for good reason (see my immediately preceding post.)

You can’t believe anything these guys say. I doubt if the British watch him after a year. He should be required to frequently register as a parolee; say, once a week.

“..Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes..”Article I;s9,15 ~ “..the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended..” Article III:s2,3 “The trial of all crimes..shall be by jury..when not committed within any state, the trial shall be at such place..as the Congress may by law have directed…” Amendment VIII “…nor cruel or unusual punishments inflicted.” Amendment XIV “…nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Fascist Hyena: In war, the entire territory of any nation party to that war (a “belligerent”) is considered a “war zone”, so in fact the German soldiers found on U.S. soil WERE in a “war zone” (not a “combat zone” in this case). Moreover, unless they were wearing their German military uniforms, they could rightly be considered spies or saboteurs (under the Geneva convention) and therefore executed.
The example I gave was of a citizen of one non-belligerent nation picked up by and in the territory of another non-belligerent nation and subsequently transferred into the custody of a belligerent nation and imprisoned as a POW combatant of ANOTHER belligerent nation from which he DID NOT originate at all – which at least attempts to create an analogy of the case at hand.
As far as American attacks inside Pakistan, the Pakistanis have requested that we NOT do that, and so continued such attacks COULD be construed as acts of war against Pakistan itself. In the case where there is an identified person who represents a specific threat and who is already wanted in connection with an international crime, however, there is SOME precedent for taking such action even despite the request of the “host” nation that we not do so. This is the same reasoning used by, for example, Israel in attacking Gaza, Lebanon and the Golan Heights at various times. Pakistan being a very unstable nuclear power, however (and with nuclear rival India so close) it could have grave repercussions.
Bernie Madoff is a red herring meant to demonstrate the utter stupidity of some of the arguments being made here. That you took the statement seriously merely reinforces the argument being made.

Jordan’s lengthy disquisition on what he seems to think should be the law comes without citation to any legal authority, and is simply nonsense. Where does he get these daffy notions about “combat zones” and “bellgerent parties” in connection with unlawful combatants?
Do we have the authority to seize and hold pirates, wherever they may be found, or do we have to wait until they show up in some “combat zone” or other?

Fascist Hyena: the terms are derived from the Geneva Convention – a document with which you clearly have no familiarity whatsoever.
Beam me up, Scotty. It is Friday and there is obviously little or no intelligent life on this forum!

Jordan, the term “war zone” does not appear anywhere in the Geneva Convention Relavite to the Treatment of Prisoners of War. The term “combat zone” appears three times (articles 19, 23, and 47) and in none of those places has anyhing whatsoever to do with anything you have said in this forum.
I am intimately familiar with the convention, having been obliged to observe it on those occasions when I had prisoners in my personal custody.

Who wants to start a fund to purchase a house for this looser? How about we find a house next to Dodd, Reid, Frank or Pelosi…. I am sure he would be a great neighbor….spacerook….lets see Obama promised during his campaign against Hillary that he would bring the troops home is he was elected President. I don’t think sending the troops to Afghanistan bring home the troops. I will bet you that the war in Afghanistan and Pak will cost more than the Iraq war. Besides terrorist are terrorist no matter what country they live in.

You people are ridiculous. Obama said he wanted to close Guantanimo and he did. That means we have to transport the prisoners out of there. Do you know how much it cost to keep that prison open?? Our economy can’t afford that right now. So there were neighboring countries who have agreed to take some of the prisoners. I believe England and Australia have agreed to take some of them. England is claiming responsibility to watch this guy and I think they know what they’re doing. The guy will not be able to leave England under any circumstances. & I’m sure he’ll be tapped and watched closely. So how’s he going to do anything to us when he’s going to be on complete lockdown in society in England? The only thing he’d be able to do is commit a local crime in England, and I’m sure the English government will be all over his a&& before he could do something like that in their town. So please people get off yourselves and get real!!!!

to the dumbass who think we went into Iraq because “Bush wanted to get Hussein”. The reason we went into Iraq is because the UN didn’t do their job. Saddam agreed to inspections after the first Gulf War and the UN was supposed to inspect. Saddam thwarted these efforts and 16 times the UN warned him and threatened to use force if he didn’t comply. Why didn’t he comply? Because Saddam had under-the-table deals going on with Russia, Germany, and France, and he new that he would in turn be protected by them, and their vote, in the UN. Bush finally decided that the USA would do what the UN should have done.

camp50, the Democratic leadership has more to fear from domestic fascists and their anthrax attacks.
donnie brasco, history has shown that the UN was right and Bush wrong.
emjay, we don’t have to take the detainees word for it, as there is testimony by the guards there as well now.
And finally, Lippold is mislead, there are NO charges against Mohamed.

Its remarkable how the Obama Administration and the ACLU seem to care more about the rights of an individual who was part of a group intent on taking US lives and damaging the US as much as was humanly possible. Is this just a continuation of their underlying plans? It remains to be seen….considering the record of the ACLU, I would not be surprised….

Im writing this comment in response to Marie. The Obama administration wouldn’t know the constitution if it hit them in the face. Obama apposes our second amendment, the right to keep and bear arms, and quote, Obama says, “the Constitution is an imperfect document, a document that reflects some deep flaws.” Marie do not under any circumstance talk about the document this country was built on if you do not know a thing about what Obamas administration is doing to it. On to the topic about Gitmo, Non US citizens do not have the same rights as citizens do, and other right as protected byt the fith and sixth amendments (you wouldent know about that though marie) especialy terrorist organizations who threaten the US as a nation. For the tourture,it is very necessary to do what ever it takes to get the information we need to keep people like you and I safe Marie. You seem to forget about Nick Berg,and maney other soldiers who died at the feet of terrorists by getting decapitated for this contry, letting these terrorist go completely discredits Nick and all the other soldiers fighting to keep you safe. Next time dont speak unless you know what you talking about Marie.