GOP Shut Out of Stimulus Negotiations
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: A deal appears imminent between congressional and White House negotiators over a massive stimulus plan — with the bottom line likely to come in at less than $800 billion. But don’t expect Republicans to celebrate the cost savings. They’re complaining that despite Democrats’ repeated promises to craft a bipartisan deal, the package has been crafted in its late stages by a tight circle of almost exclusively Democrats. Rep. Jerry Lewis, R-Calif., was appointed to the conference committee charged with ironing out differences between the House and Senate versions. But as Democrats prepared to announce a deal, he said he had been totally shut out of talks. “In the dead of night, Democrat congressional leaders and White House officials negotiated the almost trillion-dollar stimulus legislation without a scrap of public scrutiny or bipartisan involvement,” Lewis said in a statement today. “I have never before in my 30 years in Congress seen such secrecy and blatant lack of regard for the American public. This begs the question: If the Democrat majority is so proud of this stimulus legislation, what are they hiding from?” There will be a meeting of the full conference committee today at 3 p.m. ET. But Republicans point out that it will be held mostly for the cameras, with the real negotiations having transpired privately among the White House, the House Speaker’s Office, the Senate Majority Leader’s Office, some committee chairmen and a few key aides and advisers. The only Republicans involved in most of the talks are the three moderates who voted for the package on the Senate floor. Their votes, of course, are critical to passing the measure. As ABC’s Z. Byron Wolf points out, back when Democrats were in the minority, they promised open negotiations when they took control of Capitol Hill. Republicans are also pointing out that such backroom negotiations seem to be at odds with a promise on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s Web site. “Require that all conference committee meetings be open to the public and that members of the conference committee have a public opportunity to vote on all amendments. Make copies of conference reports available to members and post them publicly on the Internet 24 hours before consideration (unless waived by a supermajority vote).” The private negotiations also don’t seem to fit President Obama’s plan, as outlined on the Change.gov Web site. “End the Practice of Writing Legislation Behind Closed Doors: As president, Barack Obama will restore the American people’s trust in their government by making government more open and transparent. Obama will work to reform congressional rules to require all legislative sessions, including committee mark-ups and conference committees, to be conducted in public. By making these practices public, the American people will be able to hold their leaders accountable for wasteful spending and lawmakers won’t be able to slip favors for lobbyists into bills at the last minute.”
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Posted by: aware2u | February 11, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
Why are Republicans complaining? They didn’t vote for the Senate and sure as hell dosen’t like the House bill. The final bill should fall in between which means that they will not vote for it. Did they really expect negotiators would chuck it and start all over?
Posted by: indy_voter | February 11, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
We love Obama’s “openness” and “transparency” in government! What ever happened to “bi-partisan”? It is hard to believe that this country put this socialist into power.
Posted by: Mihann | February 11, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
The republicans especially in the house made a pact from the very beginning not to vote for it no matter what. who needs that negativity in the room. let them fillibuster OBSTRUCTIONIST!!
Posted by: so | February 11, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
Since the GOP refuses to vote for the bill, regardless, why should their opinions matter at all?
The president bent over backwards for the GOP behaved like children. Sorry,i f you want GOP ideas int eh bill, the you have to vote for the final product, especially since we know that GOP ideas are very bad ideas, indeed….
Posted by: Mike | February 11, 2009, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Frankly, the Republicans have no moral ground to stand on in this debate. After all, the House Republicans voted en masse against the stimulus’ first iteration and have shown absolutely zero inclination to vote for it this time. Obama is reaching out to those people who have shown a willingness to listen and compromise, a gesture that hasn’t been reciprocated by a single House Republican. Bipartisanship is a double-edged sword and if the Republicans continue their behavior, they are going to find themselves personally and politically invested in the failure of the stimulus and the failure of the U.S. economy, something no politician wants to find themselves supporting.
Posted by: Bob | February 11, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Obama has tried to reach out the the GOP but, I guess, they have forgotten who is now in power. Take your toys and go home GOP your party is over!!!
Posted by: jacki | February 11, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
they shut themselves out by burying their head in the sand…and refusing to offer up any real solutions….I frankly don’t give a *&%# about their whining and nonsense….and since they can’t offer up any ideas or realistic solutions…we’re better off not hearing from them at all…
Posted by: Phil | February 11, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
At the very time when the Republican party cannot afford to be marginalized, their petulant rhetoric and their conspicuous lack of action threaten to do exactly that.
Posted by: Bob | February 11, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
“The only Republicans involved in most of the talks are the three moderates who voted for the package on the Senate floor. ”
What a surprise – the Republicans willing to play ball are getting changes made and being heard. But the ones who petulantly stomped their feet and refuse to support ANYTHING are shut out.
Why on Earth would Democrats have the Party of No there to waste time? This is why the Republican’s “principled stand” against the bill – party line even after their concerns were partially addressed with tax cuts included on day one and contraceptive funding and rehabilitation of the National Mall pulled out later – was just stupid. They removed themselves from the conversation and now they’re surprised? Are they playing dumb for soundbite purposes or are they really this dumb?
Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2009, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
The Democrats take over of the Govenment and nobody sees anything wrong with this or it does not set off any alarms to the MEDIA.
Posted by: panger | February 11, 2009, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm
The party of whiners. Cutting taxes and starting wars hasn’t worked, unless you’re one of the elite like Bush & Cheney.
Posted by: Mack | February 11, 2009, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Republican whiners. They can dish it out but can’t take it. Republicans lost the elections………b/c they’re losers.
Posted by: Sammy | February 11, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Why has Obama paid over a million dollars to his lawyers so he doesn’t have to show his college records, birth certificate (real one not the fake one on his site), medical records (all of them not one sheet), etc. America doesn’t even know who he really is. This is so sad.
http://defendourfreedoms.us/
Posted by: Fae | February 11, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Pelosi, Reid, and company are primarily to blame for this pork laden package. (with Obama’s blessing) wasn’t it Pelosi who made a comment something like “we won, this is our bill, we want the credit …” Doesn’t seem that she was interested in any bipartisan. And keep in mind those Republicans were at least listening to their constituents who are upset about all the “pork” in this bill. I will gladly allow the Democraps – whoops democrats – to take credit when the whole country is a socialist mess. But as a republican I have as much right to voice my opinion as the majority party and I will not take my toys and go home. deal with it!!!!
Posted by: mj | February 11, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
The GOP is the party of keep doing the samething over and over and expecting a different result.
Obama has tried to work with them & get their input/suggestions but apparently they want to do whatever they can to make him look bad, in turn it is only going to hurt the GOP further.
Posted by: yup! | February 11, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
The Republicans have got to be kidding. When did they ever cooperate with Democrats on anything. If they don’t have the power, they are obstructionists. They are so good at that. That’s all they care about. They only want to help out the fat cat CEO’s, Wall Street investors and Bankers, the wealthy and greedy people in this country. That’s all they have ever been good for. Hope the rest of them get voted out of office in 2010.
Posted by: geecee | February 11, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
fae – did you take your meds today??
Posted by: geecee | February 11, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
panger: “The Democrats take over of the Govenment and nobody sees anything wrong with this or it does not set off any alarms to the MEDIA.”
You must not be familiar with our governmental structure – we had an election to decide who would take over the government. The Democrats won. So now they’re in charge of the government. It’s pretty simple really, but if you’re not an American I can understand it might be different from where you live.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
What do they have to complain about – first of all they got us into this mess and their only answer to any problem is to cut taxes. Secondly, they were given every opportunity to participate had a number of their requests included and then proceeded to vote against the bill. Why give them a second chance? They don’t want the p resident to succeed – it is obvious that they will continue to try to thwart his every action. Unfortunately, the p resident will continue to try to engage them in bi-partisan fashion. I remember back when they were in charge – dems were not even allowed into the meetings. I wish I could say this was pay back – but our pres will continue to try to work with them. What a shame.
Posted by: Mary E | February 11, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
I supported Obama through the past year and still believe he is the best person for the job of those we had to choose from.
However, the stimulus bill contained garbage the utility of which eludes me at this point.
Anything that will not spark economic growth within 90 days or so is useless.
This puts things like contraception funding out of it.
Construction funding is useless for two reasons: 1) it won’t happen soon enough and 2) it won’t help those who are unemployed. People seem to think this is a New Deal idea. They forget that the New Deal work projects required massive relocation and they utilized the talents of the unemployed. If you were an artist, you worked on art at the dam or federal building. That won’t happen here. We will get the same people doing low utility jobs without hiring Lucy who got laid off last month. At best Lucy will be hired at the local Walmart when the union construction guys cash their checks.
I would make an exception for alternative energy construction and manufacturing. That won’t pay an immediate benefit but will pay off handsomely in 2 to 5 years.
No more pork otherwise.
Posted by: Mr. Coffee | February 11, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
mj: “But as a republican I have as much right to voice my opinion as the majority party and I will not take my toys and go home. ”
No, no you don’t. You don’t have committee chairmanships, you don’t set the floor schedule, and you don’t decide who is in the conference committee. Our government has worked a few hundred years like this – win an election if you want to get back in power.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Just what kind of private talks do you think Chenney, Bush, and their band of fools had behind closed doors on how to screw over the American people on thier watch come on now give me a break. Dems aren’t doing anything worse and just maybe the middle class working folks will actually get a freaking break for once.
Posted by: Debbie | February 11, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
I’m trying to figure out in just 3 short weeks, Obama went from someone of substance to a liar.
He talked a good game and I fell for it. Then he is for a bill that is so full of pork and paybacks that it is beyond disgusting. In a time like this no less.
I can sum it up with one word, duped.
Posted by: Buyer's Remorse | February 11, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Mr. Coffee: “Anything that will not spark economic growth within 90 days or so is useless.”
The big concern is of a deflationary spiral that could result in a recession that lasts years. The Republicans are betting on this one lasting at least until 2010 (which it is likely to unless a lot of best case scenarios come to pass). Sparking growth anytime in the next 12-24 months is of great value to avert this catastrophic potentiality.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
“I can sum it up with one word, duped.”
A disillusioned Obama supporter. I totally believed that, no way we’re being duped.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
House Republicans made it clear from the very beginning that they prefer political posturing over deal making. They should have been shut out. The stunt they pulled holding a news conference telling the world they had no intention of voting for the stimulus while the President was en route to negotiate with them was absolutely obnoxious.
Posted by: Paige | February 11, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Regardless of what party jersey you wear this is a lot of money and it deserved more than a few days to put together. Most felt that something needed to be done but frantically rushing anything will eventually cost us dearly.
78 billion of the first 350 billion bank bailout cannot be accounted for, the only excuse given was that they paid too much for certain assets, I am quite sure we will not get the bang for the bucks this time either.
78 billion would have paid for a lot of stuff!
Posted by: david | February 11, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Republicans quit your Damn whining! crying that is all you have done Since Obama got Elected,And Democrats kicked your sorry a@@eS in the Election,You wanted no part of it in the house or Senate,To be Honest people are FED UP With your whining and crying now we are Moving FORWARDS Without you and people could care less if your in or out SO SICK OF THE GOP!
Posted by: Angie | February 11, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
The republicans made their stand in mass. They decided prior to a bill being finalized to vote NO! NO! and NO!. Their position is not about principal it is about being obstructionist. They can’t stand the fact that the American people REJECTED their failed trickle down economic policie. They also resent that the American people rejected the policies of Bush And Chaney that the republican party supported in lock step.This country for the first time in 8 years has a President with an IQ above room temperature. A thoughtfull, well informed, intelligent leader whom this country and world can respect and rally around. Republicans made their bed now they are forced ot lay in it. It’s pathetic at how powerless and clueless they have become. They spout the same tired old talking points that the vast majority of this Country has long since rejected. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. The Republicans have not figured that out yet, and I doubt they will.
Posted by: Terry | February 11, 2009, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
For all of you asking where is the bi-partisanship, it takes 2 sides to be bi-partisan. If one side does not want to play there is not much you can do about it. The GOP were given amply opportunities to come into the game and play but they chose to ‘just say NO, unless everyone played by their rules, so it is on them NOT on Obama.
Posted by: jc | February 11, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
The GOP congressmen need to be involved.
If not, then their constituents don’t have to pay tax on it. Taxation without represention will not be tolaterated and is illegal. This huge pork bill needs to have everyone involved.
Posted by: Chip | February 11, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
This goes to show you, you can’t trust a Lennist/Socialist
DOH-BAma is a liar
Posted by: DOH-bama Cabinet of Corruption | February 11, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
The Republicans are acting like Spoiled brats, Because things arent Their way,You had 8 years and look what you have done PEOPLE DONT WANT THEIR WAYS !And Yes President Obama bent over Backwards for them,It didnt Matter the Gop is set out to Destroy him!
Posted by: Angie | February 11, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Haven’t the Republicans done enough damage to this country over the past 8 years? Now put on your dunce caps and go sit in the corner or head down to your hero’s ranch in Crawford.
Posted by: Mack | February 11, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A JOKE . A REALLY BAD OBNOXIOUS JOKE TOO . BUT THE JOKE IS ON THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS ISNT IT? NOT TOO FUNNY EH?
I KNOW ITS HARD DUMBA$$ AMERICAN VOTER BUT JUST DONT FORGET ,NO MORE REAGANS ,NIXONS ,OR BUSHES…AND THIS NATIONS INTERESTS ,BOTH HERE AND ABROAD , WILL START AND CONTINUE TO IMPROVE SLOWLY GRADUALLY BUT NOTICEABLY .
NO MORE REPUBLICANS ,NOT EVEN FOR DOG CATCHER!!
Posted by: whty not? | February 11, 2009, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
David: “Regardless of what party jersey you wear this is a lot of money and it deserved more than a few days to put together. Most felt that something needed to be done but frantically rushing anything will eventually cost us dearly. ”
This bill was introduced on January 25th and had been worked on in committee prior to that. This is what you consider a few days? What wouldn’t be rushed – 535 people plus their staffs of dozens working it over for 12 weeks rather than 4?
Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2009, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Angie you need to rehearsed talking points right. 6 years, Angie that’s 6 years, not 8. The democrats controlled congress for the last 2. congress controlls the spending.
I know you have been taken to task on this before. Your head is one thick sucka. You need a headlock with a knuckle rub on the hair…McFly anybody in there McFly….
Posted by: Angie the spammer | February 11, 2009, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Chip:”The GOP congressmen need to be involved.
If not, then their constituents don’t have to pay tax on it. Taxation without represention will not be tolaterated and is illegal.”
The funniest thing I’ve read today. Republicans were involved when they voted no en masse (even after concessions) removing themselves from the process. Thanks for the laugh.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
“mj: “But as a republican I have as much right to voice my opinion as the majority party and I will not take my toys and go home. ”
No, no you don’t. You don’t have committee chairmanships, you don’t set the floor schedule, and you don’t decide who is in the conference committee. Our government has worked a few hundred years like this – win an election if you want to get back in power.”
Sorry, comrade jhw539, this isn’t Venezuela, Cuba, or Russia and you sure aren’t Chavez, Castro, or Stalin. The minority party does have the right to voice their opinions. At least they do right now (I guess the Fairness Doctrine redux will help take care of that). If you don’t like hearing dissent, maybe you should go to a country that doesn’t have Freedom of Speech enshrined as a basic right of the citizens.
Posted by: I'm With Stupid | February 11, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
“Angie you need to rehearsed talking points right. 6 years, Angie that’s 6 years, not 8. The democrats controlled congress for the last 2. congress controlls the spending. ”
The Republican Senate waged a record number of filibusters the last 2 years to protect the status quo they put in place. Meanwhile, the Republican President had veto power (which actually made all those filibusters really unusual) and implemented his vision of the administration and regulatory enforcement structure. Plus, you are counting Liberman – almost McCain’s VP pick – as a Democrat.
Sorry if REALITY has a liberal bias.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2009, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
yeah Chip ,you go on and dont pay your taxes.
btw ,say hi to wesley snipes when you two meet up in leavenwworth.
Posted by: republicans = terrorist sissies | February 11, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
“Sorry if REALITY has a liberal bias.”
According to CNN’s exit polls for the 2008 election, only 22% of voters identified themselves as “Liberal.” 34% said they were “Conservative.” 44% said they were “Moderate.” I don’t think “REALITY” is on your side there, comrade.
Posted by: I'm With Stupid | February 11, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
I’m stupid: “Sorry, comrade jhw539, this isn’t Venezuela, Cuba, or Russia and you sure aren’t Chavez, Castro, or Stalin. The minority party does have the right to voice their opinions.”
They do not have “as much right” to do so in Congress as I clearly and specifically outlined. Do you have any counter examples to the specific examples I cited?
Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
I’m with stupid: “According to CNN’s exit polls for the 2008 election, only 22% of voters identified themselves as “Liberal.” 34% said they were “Conservative.” 44% said they were “Moderate.” ”
Good point – it is clearly documented that Obama won his historic landslide mandate through the support of moderates too.
Posted by: jhw539 | February 11, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
“They do not have “as much right” to do so in Congress as I clearly and specifically outlined. Do you have any counter examples to the specific examples I cited?”
She said she had the right to voice her opinion and you said she didn’t because she doesn’t control the government. Sorry, comrade, I don’t need any counter examples, except the First Amendment, to show that she does have that right.
Posted by: I'm With Stupid | February 11, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
If you don’t like hearing dissent, maybe you should go to a country that doesn’t have Freedom of Speech enshrined as a basic right of the citizens.
Posted by: I’m With Stupid | Feb 11, 2009 3:43:44 PM
^——I see your point. and its very true that you can indeed spout all the ignorant babble you so desire , thats the beauty of the usa .
the problem ,for you
(and the rest of the republicans ) is that you are now in the patent minority ,and as such you will be pretty much ignored ,deservedly so ,until the cows come home.filibuster is all you have so use it all you want ,it will destroy ANY remaining political relevance the republicans might have ,which is rather miniscule if any to begin with at present.
maybe the republicans can somehow lie their way back into a position of power , so they can steal and connive the country into a hole again , youd be content and satisfied then eh chucky?…thats a republican redux proper!
Posted by: dolts r us | February 11, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
“Good point – it is clearly documented that Obama won his historic landslide mandate through the support of moderates too.”
I’m not sure I would call pulling in 52.8% of the popular vote a “historic landslide mandate”. George H.W. Bush got 53.4% in ’88 – was that a “historic landslide mandate”?
Don’t get me wrong, though. I like President Obama and he has my support, but I’m tired of all of the haters – on the left and right. Keep on doing your thing, just don’t O.D. on the Kool-aid.
Posted by: I'm With Stupid | February 11, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
“I see your point. and its very true that you can indeed spout all the ignorant babble you so desire , thats the beauty of the usa .
the problem ,for you
(and the rest of the republicans ) is that you are now in the patent minority ,and as such you will be pretty much ignored ,deservedly so ,until the cows come home.filibuster is all you have so use it all you want ,it will destroy ANY remaining political relevance the republicans might have ,which is rather miniscule if any to begin with at present.
maybe the republicans can somehow lie their way back into a position of power , so they can steal and connive the country into a hole again , youd be content and satisfied then eh chucky?…thats a republican redux proper!”
I don’t know what to say, dolts r us, I’m swept away by not only the force of your argument, but the beauty with which you express it. If only you knew what you were talking about, you would be truly dangerous.
Posted by: I'm With Stupid | February 11, 2009, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm
What more did the house GOP have to add?
They made their point with their zero vote, and their celebration afterwards; and the dem congress moved on. Like the president said, all the congressional GOP wanted to do was to posture and play their silly games while Americans suffer. Good for the dems. They showed they had backbones.
Posted by: Emmanuel A. Smart | February 11, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Obama will work to reform congressional rules to require all legislative sessions, including committee mark-ups and conference committees, to be conducted in public.
key word here is “will” , and i know i am patently stating the obvious but evidently there is a problem with some people and proper comprehension of a sentence/statement.
he OBVIOUSLY hasnt made the above mentioned changes ,(i.e. CONGRESSIONAL RULES ,WHICH ,FYI DONT GET CHANGED OVERNIGHT…ESPECIALLY WITH THE REPUBLICAN FOOTDRAGGERS STALLING AT EVERY POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY ) because HE JUST GOT SWORN IN LESS THAN A MONTH AGO…
shheeeesh…
Posted by: james | February 11, 2009, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
You lefty commenters act like Democrats haven’t been in control of congress for the last 26 months. Are you people really that ignorant? Yes, G.W. was in the whitehouse, but he excercised his veto power exactly once! Congress has most of the power right now, just who do you think wrote this bill? Obama? , the Republicans? Try Nancy and Harry.
Posted by: lake | February 11, 2009, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Sure invite the clowns in when you trying to get work down. The White House was already fully briefed on the “input” that Canter and Boehner wanted to offer. They’d announced to anyone that would listen, scrap the bill, start over, using with their 100% tax cut stimulus as the starting point and just slow down. I can’t imagine why? they were shut out.
Cheap political stunt to delay n hopes of dragging down Obama’s support in the polls. slugs. you had your chance, you lose.
Posted by: KLS | February 11, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
jhw539, you are an idiot. No matter what party is in power, every American has the right to free speech. Don’t ever try to step on anyones First Amendment right’s! I’m a Democrat and I’m ashamed of you and your mean-spirited comment!
Posted by: Steve | February 12, 2009, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Is anyone going to ask Hitler his opinions of the gas chambers? The majority of republicans-the exception-#3 and 2 of those willing to compromise-women…The are taking the same stand they took as we headed at break neck speed for this precipice…do nothing-or give tax breaks to the wealthy-give capital gains cuts to people with no capital gains??come on-times awasting-the trains headed for the grand canyon-we can’t wait for the republicans to get an idea…
Posted by: cowgirl | February 12, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Bush started the USA LOCK DOWN process, Obama will continue it.
Only this time people will smile as we loose more of our freedom and guaranteed right to privacy because it is a Democrat bending us over after an unpopular Republican.
Obama is bending us over.
GOOD COP VS BAD COP
we all loose, wake up.
Posted by: DC SUX | February 12, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Republicans have only their interest at heart. Power, wealth, control. When they are in charge they feed themselves and their interests. When they are not, their only concern is to get back in power- at any cost!. These folks are why we make bad decisions. The offer no constructive policies, never a new approach, advocate solutions that feed their greed not the interests of our society or the family of nations. They seek no peace, only control over others. Yet the President continues to reach out to engage these empty-headed hedonists bereft of goodwill, courage, creativity and vision for a better world for everyone.
Posted by: al | October 13, 2009, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm