How Low Will Obama Go on Stimulus?

This is idiotic. We have 58 of 99 Senators and 59 percent of the House. Oh, yeah. We have the White House.
And still Obama is meeting with two Republicans and one Democrat. And you are calling them “moderate” instead of giving their political affiliation.
It’s about time that the media began reflecting the will of the people. It’s time that there were at least a 50/50 partisan representation of quotes and interviews.
That still wouldn’t be even since Democrats won the popular vote in four of the last five presidential elections, blow the Republicans out in popular vote for Senate (because a lot more people vote for Democratic Senators in California/NY than Republican Senators in Georgia/Wyoming), and the House vote (because turnout is higher in Democratic districts).

EVIDENTLY MOST OF THE DEMS have NOT read the BILL. They are just told how to vote.
If you did not read the other forum, this precluded what I just posted:(this is a Democrat talking)
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“He implied that Members of Congress don’t “read the bills and figure out whether they’re any good or not. We’re just told how to vote. We’re treated like mushrooms most of the time.” As opposed to the past, when the erstwhile Democratic Study Group would analyze legislation and provide pros and cons, “now we don’t get good information about the bill. They don’t really want you think about it. They want you to vote blindly with the Democratic leadership every time.”
Democratic leaders are often right in their analyses, Cooper said, but “they’re not perfect, (and) sometimes they’re disappointing our President.”
“The Obama White House is in a “tough” situation, Cooper said: “They want to keep the Speaker happy and the traditional Democratic leaders, but they’ve let them know privately they’re not interested in all this pork.”

I hope Obama doesn’t concede on further tax breaks. The most bang for the buck is with the infrastructure programs, so hopefully, cuts in other areas will be transferred there.

Anyone having buyer’s remorse? Can America take BO back to the store where the media purchased him from?
How many of his appointments have been tax cheats?
Obama’s presidential slogan will end up being one that we have heard many times before…
“That uuhh person is not uuhh the uuuh person I knew”

The tax breaks being offered by Republicans are only for people in the 10-15% tax bracket. (i.e. those in the top 2% of income earners).

sbv
You may be too far gone to have a rational discussion.
Tax cuts for the wealthy? Really?
When the weatlhiest 10% of Americans pay 70% of the tax load in America, my guess is that those same people will probably get the bigger tax cuts since they are paying most of the taxes. (As opposed to BO’s “95% of Americans will get a tax break” crap when 50% of Americans pay no federal taxes. Can you say welfare?
Katrina- Perhaps the majority of the population who were “stranded” down should have sold the caddy in the drive way and gotten flood/hurricane insurance when they lived below sea level next to an old levee. Just a thought though.
Have you ever wondered how
2 million get into Washington DC in sub zero temps in 1 day when 200,000 couldn’t get out of New Orleans at 85 degrees with four days notice?
Iraq war. Last time I checked 4500 was far less then 50,000 lost in Vietnam which was Kenndedy/Johnson’s crowning achievement. How come you liberals refuse to acknowledge that saddam murdered 700,000 of his own people with chemical weapons that he supposedly never had. Oh well, I guess it’s just easier to say “BUSH LIED KIDS DIED”
Military contracts-
Stay off the dailykos and huffingtonpost, they are corrupting your mind!

“Iraq war. Last time I checked 4500 was far less then 50,000 lost in Vietnam which was Kenndedy/Johnson’s crowning achievement. How come you liberals refuse to acknowledge that saddam murdered 700,000 of his own people with chemical weapons that he supposedly never had. Oh well, I guess it’s just easier to say “BUSH LIED KIDS DIED”
I have always wondered; your neighbor was beating hell out his wife and children, and you are pretty sure he is going to kill them. You call the cops, but they have not arrived yet. What would you do? Would you risk your life to save them?
You neighbors house is on fire.. the entire family is trapped inside and the FD and RS has not arrived. Would you risk your life to save them?
Maybe not good analogies, but I have always been curious what people would do?

Make the Republicans filibuster! Make them stand up and argue against the stimulus bill! Call their bluff, and they will run away crying.

“BOstinks”
You stink! Every time some conservative a.. mentions Saddam, I want him to go and check all those countries that have dictators in power. Why Bush and Cheney did pick Iraq? I think you know the answer, propaganda boy!

“On page 151 of this legislative pork-fest is one of the clandestine nuggets of social policy manipulation that are peppered throughout the bill. Section 9201 of the stimulus package establishes the “Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research.” This body, which would be made up of federal bureaucrats will “coordinate the conduct or support of comparative effectiveness and related health services research.”
Sounds benign enough, but the man behind the Coordinating Council, Health and Human Services Secretary-designate (and tax cheat) Tom Daschle, was kind enough to explain the goal of this organization. It is to cut health care costs by preventing Americans from getting treatments that the government decides don’t meet their standards for cost effectiveness. In his 2008 book on health care, he explained that such a council would, “lower overall spending by determining which medicines, treatments and procedures are most effective-and identifying those that do not justify their high price tags.
Mind you, they are not simply looking to exclude treatments that don’t work, but to exclude treatments that are effective, but whose cost, in their opinion, does not justify their use. You, the patient, and your physician don’t get a vote. This would make the federal government the single most important decision-maker regarding health care for every patient in America.”
****Our senators need to take the time to read every sentence in this 700+ page bill. I’m sure there are plenty more of these “nuggets” sprinkled throughout. And this was supposed to be a STIMULUS bill. Interesting.
My personal opinion, is that this whole thing needs to be scrapped.

oh –”Only Government dares to spend in this time. We need to create demand then companies will jump in to fulfill the demand. This will create JOBS. Tax cut in this time is terrible WRONG! Government needs money to function and stimulate the economy. REPUBLICANS! Please wakeup!!!” — sorry oh, but it you who are wrong… tax cuts places more money in the hands of the populice which are the consumers of the goods and services that companies cater to. With the extra money that companies receive, they can expand if necessary to meet the needs of the consumer increase.. all this amplifies like pusing a ball down a slope.. When government spends on itself to “stimulate” the result is that individuals have no extra money to spend to stimulate the economy, companies have no need to expand if the demand is not there, and the only ball rolling down hill is the ball that demands MORE governemtn programs to take care of people who continue to see their standard of living decrease..

ghost -”I think you are low.. something. People who died in New Orleans didn’t have cars.” — No – heres the truth, people in New Orleans died because their politicians controlled their activities. I was there after the fact, thousands of cars were scrapped still in the streets.. why? because the Governor would not open the evac routes out of town.. many who did not have cars died because there were dozens of buses that the city had access to that were never utilized because the governor and mayor would not authorize their use… more people died because the governor would not release the LA national guard to national service when the president asked… 40 years of corrupt spending left the levees at risk, 40% of the population living off government subsistance left the people at risk.. listening to a governemtn..any government .. thats says it will take better care of us than we can take care of ourselves, LEAVES US ALL AT RISK>>>

Mike C — well since it says that the body would be made up of federal bureaucrats.. let me set this up like jeapardy- “I choose 0 jobs for 200 Alex” — and the answer – “What is another example of 700 million wasted dollars?”

Don’t forget:
$745 Billion..US Healthcare Programs.
(medicare and medicaid)
To say we don’t have healthcare in this country is just not being intellectually honest.