Obama Meets With Moderate Senators, Understands Stimulus Scrubbing is Necessary
ABC News’ Sunlen Miller Reports:
President Barack Obama held individual meetings on Wednesday with three leaders of a bipartisan group of moderate senators — who are now dubbing themselves the "Jobs Squad" — who are working to bring down the overall cost of the economic stimulus bill.
Following each of their private oval office meetings, Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine and Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., all received the impression from their meetings with Obama that the president understands parts of the economic stimulus package, now in the Senate, need to be scrubbed to deal with non-stimulative programs in the current bill.
“He said that he understands it needs to be scrubbed,” Snowe first said as she emerged from her midday meting, “and he’s prepared to be receptive to the ideas and to revealing some of the spending measures that were included and are raised with questions whether or not they are stimulative. And he was amenable to that process.”
Nelson, following his afternoon meeting, said that the president, “recognizes some of the pieces of this package need to come out” and that for a variety of reasons “scrubbing to bring some votes on to pass the package” is necessary.
Nelson also added that he would not be supportive of the bill as it stands right now, but that he does not have to vote against it because, “it’s going to change.”
“It really is an opportunity for us to make the changes that I think need to be made to bring about the king of support that’s not there,” Nelson said of the negotiations. “There are items – such as some research items, excellent legislation, should be in the budge bill should be in omnibus legislation not part of the stimulus bill.”
Collins and Snowe said that they each submitted to Obama a list of provisions in the House bill that they believe would not stimulate the economy.
At issue specifically for Collins are items in the current bill that she would like taken out: $1 billion to upgrade facilities and info technology at the state department, $780 million for pandemic flu preparedness and $14 million cyber security.
“The house passed bill is much more like an omnibus bill than a stimulus bill," Collins said. "I believe we need to have a more targeted and affective bill for it to pass in the senate with bipartisan support.”
Snowe said that Obama was very receptive to her list and suggested that each provision within the bill should have a job creation number associated with it so its effectiveness can be scrutinized on an individual basis.
Snowe also indicated that Obama would not budge much on the overall size of the package in order to reach the proper goal.
“He thinks that it is important to have the right size stimulus plan to affect the economy,” Snowe said adding, “He understands there have been concerns…he was much aware of the discretionary expenditures that were in question.”
Snowe said that if a rigorous standard was applied to every measure and every prevision in the bill she believes it could broaden the support in the Senate.
How much non-stimulative spending must be stripped out of the bill?
Nelson said that he and the president did not talk specifically about a dollar amount.
“But I think that everybody understands that the $50 billion at least probably is the number of the kinds of things that need to be cut out of this bill to get the broad bipartition support,” Nelson said.
Collins added she was impressed by the number of Democratic senators who have expressed unease about some of the provisions in the bill.
“I am hopeful that we can put together a package that can pass either this week or this weekend.”
– Sunlen Miller
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Posted by: BertieW | February 4, 2009, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Wouldn’t a good leader have done this from the beginning instead of agreeing to pull out the wasteful spending only after they get caught?
Posted by: James | February 4, 2009, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
“Wouldn’t a good leader have done this from the beginning instead of agreeing to pull out the wasteful spending only after they get caught?”
Addressing concerns and forging compromise is what good leaders do.
That appears to be what is happening with the stimulus bill.
Posted by: Ryan C | February 4, 2009, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
What credibility does this Obama-backed stimulus bill have following Rahm Emanuel’s comment that we can’t waste a good crisis?
Americans are rejecting a bill that is laden with pork barrel spending that will do nothing to stimulate the economy but will have the effect of foreclosing opportunity for our children and grandchildren.
This Democratic congress is dreaming its way through this terrible crisis.
Posted by: s. valenti | February 4, 2009, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
“What credibility does this Obama-backed stimulus bill have following Rahm Emanuel’s comment that we can’t waste a good crisis?”
I see the right wing still enjoys mangling a quote and presenting it out of context to create a lie.
“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste,” Rahm Emanuel, Mr. Obama’s new chief of staff, told a Wall Street Journal conference of top corporate chief executives this week.
He elaborated: “Things that we had postponed for too long, that were long-term, are now immediate and must be dealt with. This crisis provides the opportunity for us to do things that you could not do before.”
He ticked off some areas where he thought new doors were opening: energy, health, education, tax policy, regulatory reforms. The current atmosphere, he added, even makes bipartisanship easier: “The good news, I suppose, if you want to see a silver lining, is that the problems are big enough that they lend themselves to ideas from both parties for the solution.”
Mr. Emanuel noted, correctly, that the U.S. largely squandered the opportunity the oil shocks of the 1970s presented to make serious, long-term changes in its energy habits — a failure that has returned to haunt the nation today.
Posted by: Ryan C | February 4, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
How are upgrading facilities and info technology at the state department along with implementing cyber security “non stimulative”? Both would provide significant employment, especially in the tech sector, and are needed for national security. There seems to be a limited perspective on what stimulates the economy among the Republicans, even the more moderate ones. They continue to demand cuts while remaining mum on where they would be transferred to in the package. I would assume the destination would be more tax cuts, even though infrastructure has well over twice the amount of compensation for each dollar spent.
Posted by: kathy | February 4, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Excellent! I’m glad they are working on getting the extraneous crap out of the bill! Obama has been trying to tell them (both Democrats and Republicans) to stop with the partisan pet projects from the begining. It seems that no one was listening.
It would be nice to find out which congressmen proposed what, so that we can get rid of these losers that are slowing things down with their stupid ideas.
Posted by: Informed Choices | February 4, 2009, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
“He ticked off some areas where he thought new doors were opening: energy, health, education, tax policy, regulatory reforms. ”
So we currently have crises in all of those areas that require legislation to be blindly past?
Posted by: BertieW | February 4, 2009, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
Let’s do this a little quieter than the Blago bribe deals.
Posted by: bill-tb | February 4, 2009, 7:26 pm 7:26 pm
“So we currently have crises in all of those areas that require legislation to be blindly past?”
Not at all.
The point is that things that were put o the back burner because they were considered to difficult or complicated or politically unfeasible now have a chance at breaking some stalemates.
We have serious issues in everything he mentioned and these are the issues Obama has campaigned on, been elected on and now legislating on.
Posted by: Ryan C | February 4, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
Obama is a lawyer and any good lawyer understands that sometimes it’s better to let outlandish demands stand for a time so that you can get what you really wanted out of the settlement.
Obama isn’t worrying about the media or public opinion right now, he’s worried about getting enough money moving through the economy to lessen the blow of the recession. And what Repubs refuse to spend in ‘government programs’ they will end up losing in tax revenues in the long run.
Posted by: Eve | February 4, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Well we are going to lose 500 million jobs a month until the stimulus is past. Then we will create or save 3 to 4 million.
Now if those numbers are correct, and we in the general public really arent in a position to judge, then it really is a crisis.
Posted by: BertieW | February 4, 2009, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Well we are going to lose 500 million jobs a month until the stimulus is passed. Then we will create or save 3 to 4 million.
Now if those numbers are correct, and we in the general public really arent in a position to judge, then it really is a crisis.
Posted by: BertieW | February 4, 2009, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Now if those numbers are correct, and we in the general public really arent in a position to judge, then it really is a crisis.
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The liberals may really have their blinders on about this. And all the while, the Democrats insist the stimulus is the fix, when it’s actually only a panacea. And panacea will be applied on panacea as we free fall from the moorings of the free market. I do fear that socialism is right around the corner.
Posted by: Heather | February 4, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
My stimulus proposal: eliminate the no-fly list. What a stupid waste of our money.
Posted by: Flash Override | February 4, 2009, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
What the country needs are spending cuts at least 5% across the board and tax cuts. We can’t spend our way out of dept, and printing trillions of dollars is insane (can you say hyper inflation) most of the stimulus is pork or worse yet social engineering. We should be getting our finacial house in order by living within our means. I don’t mean to be insulting but I don’t think Obama has a clue, I know congress doesn’t. A healthy economy does not come from a fat government.
Posted by: Philip V. | February 5, 2009, 3:19 am 3:19 am
The blaitent misrepresentation of a “stimulus” which is nothing more than quid quo pro social engineering is appalling. Especially toward “unwanted children” and our elderly with respect to tax relief and “working American families.”
Posted by: denny99 | February 5, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am
“Well we are going to lose 500 million jobs a month until the stimulus is passed. Then we will create or save 3 to 4 million.
Now if those numbers are correct, and we in the general public really arent in a position to judge, then it really is a crisis.”
The population of the US is 302 million Bertie, so those numbers are not correct (we would have all been out of a job in about 2 weeks). Someone said that statement came from Pelosi, if so it was either a ridiculous scare tactic or an honest mistake which would mean shes just an idiot.
Posted by: KR | February 5, 2009, 10:27 am 10:27 am
LOL,
Well one path to regaining Republican control of the house is now clear!!!
Just make sure someone puts a microphone in front of Pelosi’s mouth each & every day!
Posted by: Mike_C | February 5, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm