Military Commission Charges Dropped Against Terrorist Suspect Al-Nashiri

Jake – You are a bulldog. A benefit to ABC news and the public at large. Keep asking the tough questions. And, please, let us know when the Ethics Disclosure forms are available and how to find them. Thanks!

So a known terrorist has no pending charges against him?
So isn’t that prima facie making a “habeus corpus” problem where we had already resolved it by accusations made in lawful tribunal?
Also Colonel Pohl stated in his order denying 4 month continuance that “At the arraignment, the Commission will address the remaining portion of the
government motion requesting a continuance of all other sessions of the Commission”
This means this aint over until Colonel Pohl goes ahead and denies all continuances.
This will force Obama to withdraw all charges against the high value Al Qaeda terrorists, shutting down the tribunal system without anything in its place.
Ludicrous!!!!!!

OUTRAGEOUS..!!!

The President will speak with the families and Military Families United represented and I’m sure he will tell them what he intends to do with the scumbag and what he intends to do to uphold the Constitution and the rule of law. Refreshing after 8 years of a secret society in Washington. And lastly for all anti-President Obama folk – if you take a minute to read (and despite Mr. Tapper’s desire to get on the neo-con approval list) you may discover that the President of the United States understands that which he swore to uphold with hand on the Bible. Refreshing.

soft on terrorism!
appeasement!!

Can we impeach Obama yet? He gets all pansy on terrorists just so his popularity doesn’t slip. WHAT AN IDIOT! Col Pohl deserves a medal for standing up to the jerk.

The prior administration ruled that there is no right to a writ of habeas corpus so these people can be held as long as desired. These “trials” were delayed for years by the previous administration and only started when their “dictatorship” was ending.

I wonder how the parents of the 12 men that died that day fell about BO now! More BS from BO.

Commander Lippold; In all probability Obama intends to rewrite our entire civil and military legal codes to fit his perception of what it should be. Before it’s all over al-Nashiri will probably become a citizen and a decorated hero entitled to back pay and benefits. Maybe Obama intends to appoint him to the HHS post vacated by Daschle.

They’ve had this guy since November 2002 and they’re just getting around to a trial?? Speedy justice for the families huh??

“WOW, I have never seen so many folk jump to so many different conclusions and skipping right over the point of the whole thing. The BIG picture; Here is is again:
President Obama has expressed concern about whether the military commissions set up by the Bush administration are the proper way to go forward in pursuing charges ”
This is where YOU are missing it. That was set up through LEGISLATION and the SUPREME COURT. It wasn’t something the administration did on it’s own. It tried to do that, but the Supreme Court batted it down over the summer, remember? You all cheered?
Guess what, that took it out of being controled soley by the excutive branch, and brought it into the judicial as well. Obama cannot issue orders on it anymore. Dems wanted this, they got it.

And yet a President like a governor, mayor or district attorney cannot make judicial decisions. That’s what he’s trying to usurp and that’s on the face of it unconstitutional.
He appear to be withdrawing a case but then doesnt the district attorney and sheriff have to let someone free if they have no charges against them. Again on the face of it, habeus corpus suspended – unconstitutional, at least how it’s being extended to non-citizen combatants.
What exactly is Obama going to say about the guy we agree is a scumbag. We’re going to hold him (solely by executive authority) and develop a new system that will replace the tribunal system I’ve abolished
(solely by executive authority)
He like Bush can act as Commander in Chief with clear authority, but as Lawyer in Chief he has limits and he definitely in no shape or form Judge in Chief.

I thought we elected Obama to run things, it looks like we got Osama.

WOW why not just set everyone free that is in prison MR OBAMA. Well America you getting your change. It is not looking good!!!

Pohl is acting like Doug MacArthur, and President Obama – as Commander in Chief – should play Harry Truman and simply ORDER this brass-hat to either comply with the request or else resign his commission on the spot!

Obama is starting to lose the vets and at the rate he is going, he will lose the american voters before his term in office is over. You are our president but remember Chicago.

“this step is not being done to be lenient towards al-Nashiri. The move is being done to stop the continued prosecution of al-Nashiri in a court system that his administration may ultimately find illegitimate”….why is this a headline then???? why a re you makingit seem like he’s setting him free? He wants him arraigned in a court that CANNOT be found unconstitutional in the future. To be arraigned in Gitmo MAYBE later allow a loophole for the guilty to say “unconstitutional process” and they therefore, be set free. This is soooo misleading.

So I’m the new president, and I really hate my predecesssor, and the techniques he used to get information from terrorists. So I’m gonna let the terrorist that planned the Cole hit go. He’s real angry now, of course. Let’s see…he killed 17 the first time out. I wonder how many he’ll kill next time. Oh, well, I’ll just blame it on Bush.

LMAO!!! how soon we forget 9-11

Yes Doug, we are getting the change we wanted and about time, I was beginning to think America would never return to a law abiding state and would be doomed to third world dictator status forever.

“This means this aint over until Colonel Pohl goes ahead and denies all continuances.
This will force Obama to withdraw all charges against the high value Al Qaeda terrorists, shutting down the tribunal system without anything in its place.”
Have you forgotten that President Obama is the commander in chief? Colonel Pohl will likely end up a private again or out on his but if he pushes his luck much more.

“paper over the past 8 years. I hope to see the honor of it restored!”
Then I assume you too are outraged over the Executive order? Because the only way it could be followed is to usurp it and ignore the Judicial branch.

I think the president has opened up a door that was better left sealed shut!There is a reason this has been done, and we may never know the real meat of it!

I’m waiting to form an opinion on this. It sounds weird but I wouldn’t presume to have an understanding of military commissions and the ins and outs of military versus civilian courts.
The article does say that the guy (Al-Nashiri) will be held in custody, so I’m not too worried. He’s effectively in prison already.
It seems to me a lot of people here are rushing to judgment. It feels good to get all hot-headed about things, but can you honestly say that, at this point, you have a clear understanding of the situation?

Jake, I do not like the way you attack the press secretary today. Because the President is going to be more transparent does not mean he is going to let us see everythinh. If he is 20% transparent that is 20% more than the Bush white house. Also, try to be more respectful. I never liked your questions anyway to the obama administration. You can tell that you are definately a Republican and you never liked Obama.

This is the problem with electing two chickenhawks like Obama and Jody Biden who never served. Obama could care less about the soldiers he commands. What a loser.

It’s great to have a President again. And even greater that the people of this country may come to know that the Constitution is number one – NOT political parties, not arm-chair generals and NOT people working as news commentators who learned writing for Confidential magazine.

And so it begins… Slowly letting down our guard and showing our willingness to compromise. Our enemies are patient and very smart. Always looking for a way to get in and murder more or our innocent citizens. Obama is taking a page from Clinton’s book on how to deal with terrorists.

What an idiot.

Two weeks in and….
I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!
I NEVER would have guessed, not in a million…

Its a travesty these unlawful combatants are even having our laws applied to them, they don’t deserve our civility. They are not citizens but will the recieve the protections of one. They are not POW’s, as written by LAW they are not POW’s, but will recieve treatment as one.
This sends so many wrong messages to the enemy. But you asked for it, now you got it.
The left was so obsessed to tie Bush’s hands over these detainees that they tied Obamas hands too. Funny he still tried to do exactly what Bush tried to do. Consitutional lawyer?

Is the message to the service men, make sure you don’t take prisoners, they will only be turned loose. When we get Osama, if he is taken alive, will he be granted some of the bail out $$$$$$

To one and all thinking Obama is fresh breath of Constitutional air, answer 2 questions:
1) How does Obama holding Nashiri illegally without charges fix the problem you see in Bush holding Nashiri illegally without charges? I don’t get it.
2) How does Obama’s plan to usurp due judicial authority – a) suspending and b)abolishing the tribunal system, c) impose a new system by executive order until Congress can approve it – how does THAT make for proper executive respect for the constitution????

“What happens if your trial is ruled in the future as unconstitutional????”
This is great. Does our consitution apply to the world or just US citizens?
Now you are seeing why these unlawful combatants should have NEVER been let in under our constitution. You just opened up a huge can of worms. Enjoy the mess you made.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!
O, WAIT!!!! It’s Obama!!! This is GREAT!!! I live in a big city and I feel like he just put a target on my back- THANKS,Barak- George Bush was pretty incompetent on lots of things, but we didn’t get attacked again, DID we!!
Just a little note, Obama- YOU CANNOT NEGOTIATE WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CUT YOUR HEAD OFF!!!!

Obama did work on Miracle though. Robert Gibbs makes Scott McClellan look like a genius

Wrong so very wrong. They attacked a military target they should be tried by the military. This is crazy.

Where were all these concerned citizens while Bush was wiping his behind with the Constitution? His gang has almost fatally compromised these prosecutions, and garbled up actual “bad guys” with many people picked up by accident or malice, tainting the whole process. Actual suggestions, anyone?

Well, Frank’s well reasoned arguments almost persuade me…NOT
How is a military trial duly authorized by Congress prima facie unconstitutional? please answer, Frank
How do you bring secrets of national security into an open court? please answer, Frank
What right do or do not a non-citizen combatant have in the Constitution? please answer, Frank

Impeach Obama!

I’m telling you, there is an easy fix.
Extradite them to their host nations for trial.
See how many of these detainees will be screaming torture then. Id put money down every one of them would take back that statement and beg to stay in GITMO. Any takers?

Don’t judge the whole story until you read the whole story! NEW charges will be brought against this terrorist. The previous charges will not stick because of the mess of legislation that Bush left behind. Again – read the WHOLE story before you jump to conclusions.

There is some weapons grade stupid up in this forum…
Have any of you read the way this whole “military tribunal” system Bush set up works? It’s ridiculous and when he was implementing it I thought it was a travesty that went against everything America stands for.
Did we not deal with criminals before 9/11 without this smoke and mirrors backroom “court system” Dubya set up? Is there not precedent in our standard court system to convict these guys with IN A WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAWS AND ETHICS OF THE UNITED STATES?
I want these guys to go away forever too but if you are gonna protect individual freedoms of the people sometimes you have to protect the freedoms of bad people. Otherwise the definition of bad people will shift and become a slippery slope where YOU might be considered bad one day.
And if you are gonna convict someone of something, we need to do it in the right way. So there will be no doubts as to the guilt or the fairness of the sentence. Obama just wants to insure that we REALLY get this guy. The right way.

I don’t even know why any of you Obamabots that were drunk off the hopeychangey rhetoric are all of a sudden shocked and upset. YOU are also to blame when this scum of the earth gets released (cause he will eventually get released) and for this disgrace Clown-in-Chief.

Idiots trying make things that are not.
The Republicans have nothing to do but blow things out of reality. Obama isnt cutting known terrorist loose but is doing things according to law and as the article says the charges may be reinstated. However if there are innocent people being held and they were arrested on the fact they are Arab alone and there is no real proof or evidence, then let those go. Its the right thing to do.

There’s nothing in this article that says President Obama has any intention of just letting the guy go. In fact it says: “Al-Nashiri will remain in custody” at the end of the 1st paragraph. I say good job Mr. President – you do what you feel you have to to make sure none of these terrorists get acquitted bc of Bushy Loopholes. That’s the last thing anyone wants. Al-Nashiri has been in custody for years, a few more months won’t make any more difference ultimately. And the families of those killed and injured on the Cole will appreciate wanting to make sure the charges stick too, make no mistake.
You can’t have it both ways; it can’t be stupid of him to postpone the trial to strengthen the process by which he’s being judged and also be stupid for just letting the trial go on and risk having the terrorist set free bc of careless technicalities. Come on people, how p***** would you all be if a court said “bc of his treatment during containment and the nature in which a confession was acquired we do not feel it lawful to continue pursuing charges against this person.”?? Oh wait – we did hear that not too long ago… and if Obama didn’t do anything to change those circumstances and the same result came of Al-Nashiri’s trial you’d all be howling like stuck pigs that Obama should’ve learned a lesson and acted differently to ensure a full prosecution of captured terrorists.

I am confident that Borack Hussein Obama coddeling terrorists isn’t going to go over very well with the American People. His ignorant actions are going to cost him and the American people dearly.

Thank god for President that knows and values the Constitution.

The arm-chair conservative nut jobs are in full force on here tonight. No one, including the prez is trying give these detainees the same rights as Americans. Get that through your extremely THICK skulls. It’s about trying these bozos the right way. Has it ever concerned you idiots for even one moment these bozos have been in custody for more than 7 years with alleged confessions, yet very few if any have been put on trial from Gitmo…? Many have been released over the past couple of years, nice and quiet like. Now you suddenly have concern.

If you think Bush ruined the economy you are a fool. Just wait and you might see what bad is. If we get attacked again the you will see bad. Bush protected us. With Obama I am affraid we are sitting ducks and thats when it will get bad. Impeach

O, Frank, Frank, Frank!!! We were attacked a scant few months into Bush’s administration- We got attacked in Clinton’s, as well, but he just let it slide- They figured they could get away with it with Bush, as well- THAT’S what I mean, dear, that we didn’t get attacked again- They messed with him ONCE and celebrated when Obama was elected- Get it???? Dear????
And why the name-calling?? You asked for this and you got it- Aren’t you happy YET?????

Get him out of office now he is a lunatic! We are all in trouble thanks democrats this is on your shoulders. I hope you all can sleep with your selves. Are children are at risk now you are all such bad people. I pray for us now!

Memo to Obama: Knee-jerk actions do not make good policy. Start serving the interests of the people, sir, instead of their enemies.

So President Obama thinks the military court is too slow? Yeah, lets move this to our even slower civilian courts, where inmates typically stay on death row for 20 years … plenty of time for the terrorist to recruit new followers.

“was he holding weapons, shooting at the time? was he just ’round up’ as many of these men were”
Some of you folks are screwed in the head… really. The crap you believe and subscribe to is disturbing. You actually believe our military, your sons and daughters, just rounded people up for the heck of it? One of the guys that got off (through the military commission process) is now the leader of AQ in Yemen. I guess he was just “rounded up” for no reason at all huh?
Disgusting.

THIS MAN IS BEING HELD UNDER AN ILLEGAL SYSTEM, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are still Americans that believe in justice for all!!!!! How would you feel if another country such as Iran held one of our own in an illegal manner and tortured. How can this country lead another one when it’s policies are just as foul. There are laws that were ignored by the other Morans that the Morans elected to this great country.

Lynne,
You may try reading the Constitution. No oath or bible is even required.

This is all so predictable. Really, is anyone -on the left or right- surprised at this? I’ll bet when Obama gets finished screwing this up the guy walks out of civil court, which is probably Obama’s intent. Short pants indeed.

Good grief, you libs are incredible. These guys are not protected by the US Constitution.

ABC please, we already have Fox noise we don’t need more garbage from the press. This is a judical matter, and a legal maneuver by the President in order to stop the trial of this person until the laws that Bush created to try these people can be reviewed to ensure they can’t later be overturned and these people released. This wouldn’t be necessary if the Trial Judge, an Army Colonel hadn’t refused to delay the trail until the laws could be reviewed. So please stop the BS hype…or switch to Fox noise.

O’bummer may have a good plan, but until he sets it forth clearly, his moves continue to look idiotic, anti-justice and pro-terrorism. It was clear to me months ago he’s no one to believe in. Each passing day he’s proves it over and over again.

Frank, thank you for responding on “How is a military trial duly authorized by Congress ” question.
I’m not sure how the circumstances of “arrest” would determine the jurisdiction or authority of the military court as established by Congress? For example, if a suspected bank robber escaped, any level of law enforcement, bounty hunters or an MP for that matter could detain him and return him to the system established. Even if his treatment by the bounty hunter or other police agency was over the line, that would not necessarily effect his trial and conviction.

“Ok folks you need to start reading! The process is one that is LAW, passed by CONGRESS and backed up by THE SUPREME COURT.”
And your point is what?, however the process’ mechanics are designed to work there are loopholes in it that are setting untried terrorist suspects free. Obama wants to get that repaired before one of the biggest suspects gets the benefit of following the others out through the same loophole.

“”Why shouldn’t it? The constitution doesn’t allow us to deal with serial killers and rapists in our own country well enough?
Why does the right hate the constitution?”
Ok great im glad you answered, now stay with me.
We get into a war with Yemen. If our constitution applies to them, how do we prosecute war on them? Do we read them Miranda rights in the field? Do we offer them an attorney when we apprehend them? Can you even shoot them at all?

If they’re on our soil, they are protected. Sooooo, my dear Aunt from London can be tortured, charged with a crime without due process? Again will it be right for Afgan to capture and torture one of ours without proving what they have accused him/her of. Get Real!!!!!

This makes me angry and very upset! It is worse then I thought it would be and the
first 100 days are not over yet!
“and they’ll say ‘help us’ and I’ll say no”

“And your point is what?, however the process’ mechanics are designed to work there are loopholes in it that are setting untried terrorist suspects free. Obama wants to get that repaired before one of the biggest suspects gets the benefit of following the others out through the same loophole.”
My point his he cannot just issue an Executive order and change it up. It’s no longer his call to make. He can’t make up new laws as he goes along, and needs a court order to stop the trials, just like with any other court. He has to file an injunction to stop the trials with legal grounds as to why they must be stopped. Not just because he feels like it and wants to review and make sure they are valid. They are lawful trials, as ruled by the law passed by the people (Congress) and the Supreme Court.

I enjoy the reasoned arguments of our elite liberal friends. It is great we can have discussion at this civil level
“The arm-chair conservative nut jobs are in full force …
impressive

“Weren’t you watching the news or aware of what was going on when these giant sweeps happened right after 9/11″
How many of those are in GITMO? Give me a number and reference link, not bogus political one liners.

Easy solution: if we capture AQ in battle, extract any information we can then hand them over to the locals to finish off. The locals have no illusion of being “good guys”.

“Since when does the military tell the Commander in Chief what they will do?”
Since lawyers took it out of the military (executive) and stuck it in Judicial, he no longer can tell the judge in the case what to do. He needs a court order to force the judge to do anything, and it probably has to come from the Supreme Court.

Bush did not set up a military tribunal system, at least not the one that is IN operation until this attempted abolishment – Congress did. Supreme Court last year ordered some changes but did not abolish it.

Just becouse someone hates Obama does not mean there racist! Saying that means that you are the one with the low IQ. Just becouse someone doesn’t agree with one person does not mean they hate all of one race! That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard!

4) The Constitution applies to all U.S. Citizens, anyone within our borders and anyone that’s in our custody regardless of the location…

Graham stood by and allowed the Banks to get 350 billion and didn’t “utter” a word. This was the last harrah for the Republicans and their “fat cat” buddies on Wall Street. Now the “sicko” Cheney trying the scare tactic again, wanting to distract the American people again, bashing Obama because he has focused on Wall Street. WHAT IN THE WORLD IS HE AFRAID OF????? All of you “distracted” ones out there, Bush and Cheney ran this country in the ground, stole your money and distracted you with an unjust war.

I contributed to McCain’s campaign and voted for him and still damn proud that I did both!

Do you think the bad guys will play nice now?

“Why did Bush need to create a third system? And have you read the details of the tribunal system?”
Actually he didn’t. He wanted the military tribunal system only. However, lawyers got down there and took cases to the Supreme Court which really botched up the whole thing.
We had a military tribunal back in WWII, the spies from Germany who plotted to blow up facilities in the US. They were caught, put on military tribunal in the Justice Department (in location only, military judges oversaw the procedure), and executed (all but two).
So what we’ve done is muddied up the system by injecting our court system into warfare, a very bad idea. But, we shot ourselves in the foot on this one cause we just hated Bush so much.

semperfimamabear….
First of all thanks for your sons service.
Second of all, he is not letting anyone go, he is trying to make sure the guys is never let go by making sure he is convicted under a system that is 100% legal.

“You bunch of Liberals, Do not Pay Taxes, lives on Government Checks, have no right to tell us to leave the country.
We pay Taxes and we have every rights to say what we want to say.”
I am a liberal, and I would fight to the death for you to be able to say what you want to say. However dumb and generalized your idiotic statements may be. That’s your right.
I don’t live off government checks and I pay taxes. Thanks.

“The Constitution applies to all U.S. Citizens, anyone within our borders and anyone that’s in our custody regardless of the location”
This does not apply to War. Conduct for POW’s doesn’t come from our Constitution, it comes from International Law and the Law of Armed Conflict. Those in military custody taken from the battlefield follow international law and the law of armed conflict.

“debating the most recent terrorist attack on our citizens; please remember your comments at this time”…Huh???? apples and oranges. Had Bush DEALT with this issue in a timely manner, this would not be happening. Had Bush had REAL laywers and not tried ot ignore the constitution, maybe this plethora of suits that is working it’s way up the courts, would not be happening. But he CHOSE to throw anyone and everyone whether on the battlefield hanging out, in the same prison, torcher them and never ever actuallyl press charges, in a country that HAS a constitution, while families of those being held are getting laywers, bringing suits and Bush is clearing brush in Texas pretending none of this is happening. Maybe if I close my eyes and tap my heels three times it will all go away. well, here we have a trial about to begin that may very well have it’s conviction thrown out, the guy go free, a nd he IS a terrorist, and Obama says “cease and decist” on all trials and the military says “no”????? hello???? I think Obama, the constitutional law professor knows how to get this done so it sticks. You say ‘yes sir, mr. president!” or I hope you find yourself scrubbing latrines until retirement. and what ANY Of that has to do with a terrorist hitting us , I dont konw, but if one of these suits gets found the wrong way, and ALL of these guys get set free, then YOU think about it!!! YOU getting in the way AGAIN are the cause of getting terrorists being set free!

I will admit something. I have never been racist in my life. I was not raised to hate anyone. However, I am getting where I cannot stand listening to anything about fairness and equality. Obama is not fixing anything he is driving a wedge between the races. People where I work are saying terrible thing about coworkers that are black. Comments that would have never been said before. This is real people not just all of us arguing. People are developing real hatred for people they have worked with for years.

“The prior administration ruled that there is no right to a writ of habeas corpus so these people can be held as long as desired. These “trials” were delayed for years by the previous administration and only started when their “dictatorship” was ending.”
^^^ The previous administration was correct. These are not american citizens therefor the US Constitution does not apply to them.
Do the world a favor and learn something about government please.

robert b, you have simply pointed out one of the major problems with the entire “military tribunal” system of (in)justice: it puts too much under the executive branch. But the President – as CinC – cannot permit his military officers to mutiny when he orders that a process of questionable legality be continued while the question of legality is properly settled. This is precisely the sort of challenge that Doug Mac threw at HST, and it cannot be tolerated lest our nation become subject to a possibility of military coup: military officers must ALWAYS obey an order of the President unless they can show EXTREMELY good evidence that that order is unlawful!
What we have here is a soldier who has decided that he is more loyal to the former POTUS than to the current POTUS – and that is a VERY dangerous thing!
As far as “holding Nashiri illegally without charges”, there is a legal reason to hold him: he is a WANTED MAN in another country (Yemen) with which we likely have an extradition agreement or can craft one quickly if we need to! That makes holding him COMPLETELY LEGAL, and thus your argument moot.

” am pretty sure Bush set up the military tribunals, but you seem intelligent and I will concede that I need to research it further before I can speak intelligently about it.”
Yes he did set them up. Sorry if our lines crossed. The military commission was set up by Congress and the Supreme Court.
Before Congress and the Supreme Court got involved, the method of dealing with “unlawful combatants”, which is what these guys are, was through military tribunal. This is because POW status, and the Geneva Convention does not apply. The detainees do not meet the requirement set forth for POW status. Thus, a trial can be set forth with the penalty of execution.
But then we let lawyers in and they screwed it all up. Now we have one heck of a mess.

This turns my stomach. This ### attacked our MILITARY! Impeach Obama!
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sour grapes

America,you selected a wrong “guy” to run our Great country ! Good luck.

“He can’t make up new laws as he goes along, and needs a court order to stop the trials, just like with any other court. He has to file an injunction to stop the trials with legal grounds as to why they must be stopped. Not just because he feels like it and wants to review and make sure they are valid. They are lawful trials, as ruled by the law passed by the people (Congress) and the Supreme Court.”
I feel like he and the hundreds of lawyers he has at his disposal to advize him on this will have researched the ‘how-to’s’ at great length. The next steps, rights, and due courses of law are clear, set and established in civilian court and in military court – -this new tribunal court is a whole different branch of the judicial system. It is precisely bc it was created and thrown together by a president that wanted to get away from the regular and established rules of law in military and civil courts that the loopholes exist, and if terrorists can exploit those loopholes to get away and do more harm to the US, why shouldn’t the president be allowed to step in and clean up the system so that it is more regulated and functioning with a meritted intent? If it was as easy as filing an injunction then I’m sure that’s what he would be doing, but it doesn’t sound like that’s the case. If President Obama flat out can’t do something, isn’t allowed, is overstepping his permissions as President, then one of the other branches of gov’t will let him know and quick. You’d be seeing that as the top headline as opposed to how he dissed Washingtonians and their cold weather reactions.

“The Constitution applies to all U.S. Citizens,and the Geneva convention doesn’t apply to terrorist that do not wear a uniform or represent “A Government”.”….says you. How’s that going to hold up in court??? Habeas Corpus applies to every individual. period. Illegal immigrant, criminal, terrorist..EVERYONE! sorry. YOu can go yell at Thomas Jefferson, he was a flaming liberal and he had this thing about freedom. And we’re stuck with it. Fact is, suits are coming up the line, and what you call “weak” is actually intelligence. Obama KNOWS the ramifications of these military tribunals going forward with convictions that could all be overturned null and void in a few years a nd ALL these terrorist walking home free. ####, moan, complain all you want. wE HAVE a constitution and you MUST comply by it and if this ###### you off, then your biggest problem is with the original constructors of our government and with Bush who chose to ignore it because it was too hard for his wittle brain to hanbdle. I can see why he was liked by people like you. You think ignorance is stengtg. you dont understand something, oh, forget it, I’m not dealing with it! I”ll just rant like a child. SO much easier. well, don’t worry. We have a grownup in charge now. That allows mental midget mentality such as yours this luxury of p*ssing and moaning. Go cry in the corner while someone actually takes care of the nitty gritty details of setting this all right so it all works nad sticks in the end. Dont worry your pretty little head. Just get the h*ll out of way while the work is being done, ok Jr?

instead of all the bashing going on, why doesnt the president, or whoever has the authority, ask the the supreme court a simple question, “do these enemy combatants, have the same rights of american citizens” to me its obvious they dont, but then if the supreme court sees otherwise, then all this blethering will stop

Just another terrorist that’ll blow up something else once freed. Maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll blowup an inhabited White House. It’ll save us all the impeachment proceedings when he runs the country into bankruptcy with China.

You know what KR? I don’t really care about what the standards of other countries are, how barbaric they are and how twisted in their thinking. I do care what we are and what we do as a people. I grew up believing that Americans were the best people in the world. When I read so many of these posts it is hard to hold on to that belief.

“Just another terrorist that’ll blow up something else once freed. Maybe we’ll get lucky and he’ll blowup an inhabited White House. It’ll save us all the impeachment proceedings when he runs the country into bankruptcy with China.”
@ WhatChange
HAHA! As if we aren’t already bankrupted and under the influence of China.
Have you noticed the national debt racked up by “small government” conservative leadership under Cheney and Bush?

“says you. How’s that going to hold up in court??? Habeas Corpus applies to every individual. period. Illegal immigrant, criminal, terrorist..EVERYONE!”
That is so twisted it’s scary.
Law of Armed Conflict, Article 4
Article 4(A)(2) includes as POWs members of “other militias” and “volunteer corps,” including “organized resistance movements” that belong to a Party to the conflict. In addition, members of militias and volunteer corps must “fulfill” four conditions: (a) “being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates”; (b) “having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance”; (c) “carrying arms openly”; and (d) “conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war.”

“I don’t really care about what the standards of other countries are,”
You might if you wear a uniform like me.

Are you kidding me!!? I knew this was going to be a trainwreck from the beginning but this is a whole other level disgrace for even him. He’s going to go down as the worst president in history!!!PERIOD. LIVES, BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS HAVE GONE INTO MAKING THIS GREAT COUNTRY. Ones That allowed him be president of this great country. He must’ve forgotten this in his hope haze. He’d like to see change…well hes about to get change alright….THIS IS AWFUL!!!!!

KR I do understand the limitations of the Geneva Conventions when dealing with a prisoner who is not a combatant who can be attributed to a military of a certain country in a uniform.
I realize there needs to be rules for this type of combatant. But the policies in place now are not efficient or effectual at all and they need to be cleaned up.
It is my understanding that this is what Obama is trying to do.

“I do care what we are and what we do as a people. I grew up believing that Americans were the best people in the world. When I read so many of these posts it is hard to hold on to that belief.”
I do as well, and we should preserve that at all costs. But unlawful combatants do have a right to our lawyers or our law system. They have the right to a trial and a swift sentence. Military Tribunal was set up for the latter and we just blew it up. So yeah, I’m a bit ticked we are trying these guys like they ripped off a grocery store in Tampa.

KR As it happens my SON wears the uniform, and his father did before him and my father, a career Navy man did before that. You people think you are the only patriots, but there are people who are not afraid to buck the conventional wisdom. That is what makes them great.

“I realize there needs to be rules for this type of combatant.”
There are rules. He has the right to a trial and sentencing to include execution. That is all the law says.
Unfortunately, we interpreted trial as throwing him in front of Judge Judy instead of letting the military deal with it.

” buck the conventional wisdom.”
Maybe should read what the conventional wisdom is based off of before you buck it. Law of Armed Conflict, Geneva Convention. There are those who are not afforded the protection and it outlines exactly who they are, and its those in GITMO. Yet, we do it anyway. Thats not bucking conventional wisdom, that’s bucking common sense.

bill-tb: I am afraid I cannot disagree with you enough. Too many Americans are going to die between now and the next election cycle for me to laugh at the ads pointing out Obama’s failure to protect America.

Remember when the Cowardly Obama was was trying to show how smart and tough he was by promising to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan where “the real war was”? You should, the last time was only 5 days ago. Not so much now. Obama has decided to put that on hold why he studies his new “Hug a Terrorist” policy.

A real Republican would want us to attack China and Russia right now. Yeah, that’s the ticket!

Oh btw the cases that migrated were over the issue of whether or not the detainees would have access to civilian courts. The Supreme Court said yes, in one of the most ridiculously bad rulings in Supreme Court history.

Repeating the errors of the past, if Clinton hadn’t been soft on tterror, 9/11 would have never happened … The Willie Horton terror ads are going to be fun next election.
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Maybe if Reagan hadn’t given Hussein power in
the 1980′s, gave him the crop dusters to spread the poison (which were our chemicals) on the Kurdish, paid for the installation of those caves in Aftganistan which were used by terrorist, 9/11 would have never happened. Willie Horton is Republican.

“It is nice to have a non-partisan conversation with someone where all the stupidity and name calling isn’t necessary and the parties involved respect one another.”
Agreed there Bleeker. I try my best not to let emotions get too much into my posts. I think the only way to keep a level head is to try and get a maximum perspective and read a bit of history. Nice talking to someone who doesn’t automatically spit out political one-liners for once.

“he reason the Military Tribunal system was set up was bc of the permissions allowed the President by the Patriot Act – that’s why all of this “legality” stuff is where it is now.”
Wrong, military tribunals have been around since the Revolutionary War. Got to stop reading whack job conspiracy web sites.

Well, when we get hit, and we will get hit, I am hoping the attacks will be on a large leftist population center like NYC, Washington DC, LA, Boston or San Francisco. At least let the people who voted for Obama take the brunt of the attacks.

What a loser!!! I don’t feel safe anymore under Obama.

Brilliant. Sends a great message. I personally not concerned about treating terrorists like ballerinas. They kill any of us like pigs. Way to send a wus cookie signal to the rest of the world Prez. History teaches us that we can’t make peace by simply playing nice in the sand box. It’s not respected internationally (regardless of what is trumpeted) and it makes us seem weak.

If General Colin Powell still believes in President Obama, then so I. Powell tried to buck “the conventional wisdom” of the Bush administration, most of whom had never seen an enemy combatant in their lives, and he was shunted aside. For me he is a true American hero for trying to steer us back to the nation we once were.

You may disagree with me but personally I would much rather the military slim down and focus on covert Ops. In this day and age I only feel like we will only need one more big huge military deployment and that will be WW3.
Until then I think we should play somewhat isolationist and bulk up for the obviously ensuing world wide conflict that I think is imminent.

“It will be a remarkable moment in history to be honest. A foreign, unlawful combatant will be put in front of a civilian judge in the US court system. A great message to send to all the wanna be unlawful combatants everywhere.”
With Obama in office, al-Nashiri will probably end up suing the US Government and all us taxpayers will end up giving him a couple of million $$$ and an apology.

” Bush administration, most of whom had never seen an enemy combatant in their lives,”
Please don’t use enemy combatant. The term is unlawful combatant.
” me he is a true American hero for trying to steer us back to the nation we once were.”
Actually he was pretty ticked off that he paraded in front of the U.N. for the Iraq thing when he personally had reservations about it. He is an internationalist and thought that Iraq would be a bad idea without Russia, Germany, and France. In some way she was right, in some ways he was wrong. Either way, he did what he thought was best and I respect him for it.
Doesn’t mean I think he was right. But as an internationalist, and with all the international fawning over Obama, it would make sense he would support that.

With Obama in office, al-Nashiri will probably end up suing the US Government and all us taxpayers will end up giving him a couple of million $$$ and an apology.
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YOU ARE SOOOOOOO RIGHT!!!!!! lol, yOU COULDNT BE MORE RIGHT ON!!!!!

Jeepers. Maybe obama can get him out in time to have dinner with ahmadinejad in the white house. Won’t that be a kodak moment.

Obama is now trying to get into the judicial system. Our fathers have tried to separate him from that and he is weaseling his way in. This is one more reason he should not be in charge. He has no clue how to run this country and is making serious mistakes one after another. He has tried to appoint 3 tax-evaders, one successfully to run our IRS??? Now wants to drop these charges on a terrorists that killed our troops. Putting lobbyists in a position they once lobbied. Somebody find a way to impeach this idiot or change our motto to “home of the brave and land of the terrorists”. How many of you voted for this guy and now are sorry of it? I am ready to listen to Rush now, seems like much to my surprise, he may be the only public figure speaking sense.

After all the eloquent speeches, cute slogans, “Hisorical Moments” what have we seen the first two weeks? So far not so good.

OUTRAGEOUS WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES AS AMERICANS.

“whats next from the great fraud? perhaps making spanish the official language of the US? or ARABIC? you want our troops to fight for you and respect you? free the enemy….outrageous”
Where do people keep getting this idea he is freeing this guy.
By the way, you Republicans need to get used to the fact that the Republican fear mongering and scare tactics are over! Try reading the article again.

Rush Limbaugh for Secretary of State!!

Truly, terrorists now have a good friend in the White House!
He promised “change” – suckers who believed he would keep the country safe might be waking up to reality about now.

Im off to get some dinner, night bleeker. Nice talking to ya.

Better wake up America before another attack on us here at home or elsewhere is perpetrated.

“Dang it, people. Get a clue. Al-Nashiri is going NOWHERE. Guantanamo has been closed. Obama is asking for a continuance, not immediate release of prisoners. They’re still there, awaiting trial based on evidence. Isn’t this what you wanted?”
The problem is “evidence” is not so easy to collect on the battle field- the point of tribunals is to judge cases taking into account the environment. As soon as these guys step into a regular court they will be afforded all of the protections that people who are not holding AK’s in Afghanistan shooting at our soldiers and blowing up their own civilians get- courts will have to apply a different standard of evidence. Better just to avoid taking prisoners from now on. Also Obama is President, not Caesar- he is held to the same judicial process as the rest of us… he can’t “order” a sitting court to decide anything. Kudos to officers who do the right thing!!!!

Well, hopefully more AmeriKans are beginning to figure out that President BHO, aka Captain Coward, is everything but “tough on terror”. I’ll guarantee you the terrorists have figured it out!

Obama will betray the American people. You all can bank on this. He’s begun by hindering justice. And to those folks who helped him get elected, may God have mercy on your souls: Obama is about to destroy everything this country was founded on.

Yes these enemy combatatants should have been tried in the military court system already set up. There was no need to set up a 3rd court system to deal with them. We just needed to amend the military court system to deal with people who can’t be considered military personnel from an army of a nation. That was the whole problem to start with.

You guys are morons. The only smart conservative guy I have been talking to has left and I am about to do the same. If someone wants to legitimately engage in real conversation in the next 2 minutes, I will gladly debate and discuss these matters with you without name calling or sweeping generalizations.
I am a moderate who leans liberal. I understand this person doesn’t exist in todays MSM but trust me, there are more of us than are given credit for.

Bleeker:
“So I guess you were tickled about 9/11 then huh?”
You could not be more wrong.
As for naming a politicians who are for closing the borders…JD Hayworth, Tom Tancredo, Mitt Romney, Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee, John Cornyn, Bill Frist, Jon Kyl, Jeff Sessions and Rudy Giuliani.

What an insult to every service personnel in the military and for each and everyone who died on 9/11. I want the Obama supporters to look these brave people in the eye and say “Obama is the answer for America”. CNN T-shirts that say “Obama raised his hand and saved a nation” What a farce and insult.

Obama meets with 9/11 and cole attack victims family members and then goes about dropping charges on the terror suspects?
This guy is turning out to be huge embarrasment within 2 weeks of assuing office, how on earth did America elect this guy.

We can only hope President Obama does not intend to let any terrorist suspects or enemy combatants into civilian courts…

Many American Patriots have died securing and protecting the “rights and privaliges” we Americans enjoy. I am eternaly grateful for their sacrifice and that of their familys. May God bless them and all who serve in our military, Thank you so very much.
The fact that we extend those rights to forein nationals who come here, legaly or illegaly, is an act of grace on our part. That is a good thing, it is part of what makes us American, they really do not have a right to those rights and privaleges. In fact most of our enemeys want to abolish those paid in blood rights. Every time a forein national partisipates in a protest march and wave his countrys flag; it is a slap in the face of all our fallen patriots!
nothing less than act of war! Dont belive it – take the stars and stipes on your next world tour, stand on a capital street and protest thier government and see how far you get.
Forein nationals who want to kill and maim American citizins and then when cought want and demand our legal system
to protect them; thats an idea I can not understand or accept.
In the late 30s and 40s we allowed Japan to dictate forein policy changes to us, it set us up for Dec 7 41.You better read your history before we go down the same path again.

Ok folks, this is from the article, which you supposedly read. Read it CAREFULLY. I post it for reading again in regards to most of the comments posted below this one.
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The move is being done to stop the continued prosecution of al-Nashiri in a court system that his administration may ultimately find ILLEGITIMATE, not for any other reason, sources told ABC News.
President Obama has expressed concern about whether the military commissions set up by the Bush administration are the proper way to go forward in pursuing charges against the U.S. detainees, and on January 22 he asked all the judges supervising the trials of detainees for a continuance of 120 days, so a team of administration officials could review the best way forward.

Did someone say earlier,
“A revolution is coming”?

We’ve got Kennedy, Pelosi, & Reid to thank for messing over Hillary & pumping up the Fraud Obama. Hillary was right about the 3AM phone call, this is what No Experience gets us, present, just present.

I am so disgusted by this president. He has disappointed so many Americans in just 2 short weeks. I wanted to give him a chance, but he really isn’t holding up the oath of office to ‘protect and serve’ the United States. Americans need to get more involved and wake up, and take off your rose colored glasses.

All I know is that the terrorists who attacked Americans are one step closer to getting tried. I know nothing of military law and I don’t know the details of the U.S.S. Cole attack but hello people, the terrorists are NOT free. Action is being taken to put them where they belong. Either in prison for life or 6 feet under ground. I have no complaints.

PLEASE, start the impeachment process. Obama is totally out of control.

Obamites are completely full of interesting Hope and Change sophistry. This Obama administration decision will certainly rest among Obama’s greatest hits.

If you haven’t read Obama’s statement about the closing of Guantanamo Bay THEN DO YOUR RESEARCH. It seriously takes 30 minutes of reading and it’s pretty clear. The prisoners at G.B. were sitting there. They were detained. Some had been there for SIX YEARS. Not to mention, over the past seven years, out of 800 prisoners detained, FIVE HUNDRED were released to their homes or third world countries. THIS WAS DURING BUSH’S PRESIDENCY IF YOU DON’T KNOW. Obama is saying that an executive investigation is absolutely necessary in the interests of national security and justice. Not to mention I believe it was our fore fathers that developed the writ of habeus corpus. Obama is doing the right thing, but all of the people who are still sour that “The Maverick” lost won’t give Obama 30 minutes to do some elementary research into what is really going on. It’s real easy to sit at your computer, read 30 words and come up with an uneducated opinion. The responsibilities of a true patriot don’t end after waiting 5 hours to vote, but in the countless hours of research, checking to see what our government is really doing.

The stated reasoning appears sound. However the whole issue of dismantling the tribunals to give accused terrorists access to our liberal court system means i don’t vote for Obama a second time.

Posted by: keredte – and on January 22 he asked all the judges supervising the trials of detainees for a continuance of 120 days, so a team of administration officials could review the best way forward.
—– Understand what that is saying. The President of the United States asks you to do something. And you tell him no? The base is closing people, get over it. Obama’s doing it right. Something that nobody is used to in this country. He’s showing you what democracy is really all about and take these guys down the right way. Our POTUS is going to do just as what Apples said below.
Posted by: Apples – This isn’t about human rights. Obama isn’t doing this out of concern for Al-Nashiri’s rights. It’s a legal issue. Obama has a degree in constitutional law, by the way. As far as I can see, he is trying to prosecute this man in the right way, so that it sticks, and so that due process is followed. Like it’s supposed to be, in America..
—- I want it to stick. But I also want to be sure that these guys get a fair shake just as I would want any other civilized nation to do for my people. If they are found guity, they should be charged with absolutely everything possible and receive the same punishment we would give one of our own for what they did. This is what makes us the country that we are, and better than their countries. This sends a positive message to the world that justice will be done. Give it time. Reserve your judgement until you see what starts happening after this.

UNbelievable……..the very thing the CLINTONISTAS did……treating the war on terror as if it was a “criminal investigation”…………………….change we can believe in???

We are at war.
Too bad we do not have a leader anywhere within the US Government.

robtr: “…two chickenhawks like Obama and Jody Biden who never served” … Oh, surely you were referring rather to Cheney (“ran” the DoD under George Bush Sr., but never wore a uniform or took an order from anyone) or George Bush Jr. (joined the National Guard, but only showed up for duty when he wasn’t hung over.) Yes, they were two such exemplary military-service role models, weren’t they both?

most of you people posting,a few exceptions who try to say read the report, are either Poor losers form McCainor you don’t know our law.A buch of people like limburg who don’t know what they are talking about.I read the article and nowhere did it say the man was going to be be let free.Use common sense people no way would most of these poeple be let go but you all complain about political prisoners in other countries being kept in prisons with not charges well we are no better.Use your head if you were being tortured wouldn’t you say or do anything to stop it.I know I would.Why do you think we have cameras in interview rooms in our police departments.Because people were being forced into giving confessions weather true or not just to close cases.Thank you homeland security for taking our rights from us

The saga of the POST TURTLE……a farmer was driving down the country roads near his farm and he spied a TURTLE on top of a fence post along the side of the road………….the poor turtle was flailing its legs as it sat straddled on top of the fence post…..soon a good samaritan drove by and saw the turtle’s plight….he admonished the farmer that the turtle needed help. The wise farmer told the good samaritan that this was just a “POST TURTLE” and he had seen them before…the good samaritan asked “What is a POST TURTLE”???
The farmer said a “Post turtle” is one who was placed on top of the fence post………….he did not get there by himself….someone had to put him there…..and when he gets there, he has no clue as to what to do….or how to get down.

Jordan: You and Dan Rather really need to give up on trying to disprove that GWB was AWOL. Besides, compared to Bill Clinton and Barak Obama both GWB and Cheney are bonafide war heroes.

Keep it up, Obama. You’ll have us answering the prayer horn five times a day before long…

Well this is all real interesting. SOme of you folks trying to defend this liberal idiot that’s in the White House. HOw soon we forget; all that died on 9-11 as well as the USS Cole. You talk about the prisoners in Gitmo and that during the Bush administration many were already released… once they investigated and found no terrorist connection… as should have been done. Seems to me that the ones left were apparently left there for just reason. and that reason was not to just be set free!!!!!! And furthermore, isn’t it ironic that we’ve had no attack on U.S. soil since these terrorist have been in Gitmo…. hummmm, any connection there, i wonder
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The guy looks like a terrorist, therefore he must be guilty.
Time to change the Constitution.

Obama wanted to halt all criminal proceedings until all the cases can be revealed. I don’t think charges being dropped altogether is a part of that resolution. I think the trial should have at least been postponed to a later date.

This is exactly why I’m glad that I am no longer in the military because this so called Commander-in-Chief does not support the military. This will do nothing but put our servicemen more in the line of fire because these terroists who play by no rules have won when we play by a strict set of rules. He needs to learn that when you play with these nutcases you have to play by their rules or you are guarenteed to lose.

Here we go again, first the Clinton Cabinet is put back into office, that is the one’s that could manage to hide most of their past, the Stimlus Package that the taxpayers of America will be paying for “no telling how many years” & now telling one of the terrorists that he doesn’t have to stand trial for bombing one of our Navy ships & killing American sailors! Oh Yea, also the releasing of Gitmo terrorists, if I was any relative to a person killed on 9/11, Pres. Obama would get a personal letter from me saying how proud I am of him for releasing the people responsible for the killing of thousands of American people sitting at their desk for a days work, people going to work, people attempting to make business transactions & the heroic firefighters, policemen, but people’s lives mean nothing in this day & age. We the American people are having these things crammed down our throats by “elected politicans”, the other parts of the world must be having a side splitting laugh on us, especially the al-Queada & Taliban, our soldiers putting their lives on the fighting front everyday are probably very proud of their country & thinking about their friends (other soldiers)killed protecting American lives. Two of the articles that I have heard on Natl. News that are in the Stimlus package is the funding of conceptives for foreign countries, how is this helping “our American freedoms, also colleges that are receiving Federal funding are to remove all religious programs from their campuses, our country is losing more freedoms as the days go by with “our Democratic Senate, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi & Pres. Obama. I hope “Hell” is making renovations, it will be receiving large crowds from now on. People please “wake-up”, stay on the backs of the Senators YOU elected to read each portion of this Stimlus mess & think very hard about their voting freedoms & the people that voted then into office & to remember that some of them will soon be coming up for re-election. I was so proud the day I was of age to fill my voter registration & to right in Democratic Party, well I am no longer proud of Democrats, “most of the Democratic Senators are just followers & do not vote for the freedoms of all people” & never will, but “I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN” & hope we can continue these freedoms for generations to come.

What is going on in this country????? This so-called leader of the Greatest Country on earth is about to destroy the heart and soul of this country and the spirit of each and every true American. I am so tired of this administration and it hasn’t even been two months! The only reason the Judge is dropping the charges is Obama had put a halt to all trials by the military court against the terrorists. This killer is going to be let go by U.S. Courts and when he and his buddy’s are let go, I hope they get some real justice! To leave these killers in the hands of the failing U.S. judicial system is suicide. And we will soon see the end of a once Great Civilization…..

Tic Toc, Tic Toc, Tic Toc.
It just a matter of time now.
Perhaps those that defend Obama will be the ones that pay with there lives not me and my family.
This president is going to kill many civilian Americans. He will go down in history as the first American President to actually kill his own people.

The plan is Purification. Purify the populace. Start on Day 1 by killing the unborn. Now free terrorists to kill more unwanteds. The detention camps are next.
 
“In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
 
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
 
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
 
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.”

The president’s order honors those on the U.S.S. Cole and those killed on 9/11 by ensuring that terrorists do not erode our system of government. Once we lose the Constitution, they’ve won. Clearly, they’ve won over Pohl.
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Something which definitely bears repeating.

This guy is a national security threat. And I’m not talking about the terrorist. We’re in deep crap. He’s nothing but another Jimmy Carter. Maybe worse if that’s possible. Thanks america.

all:
Does anyone here have family members that were on the U.S.S. Cole? Or were 9/11 victims? or further back were Beruit marine barracks bombing victims?Cause these are all splinters of the same groups that were supposedly trained by the U.S. China and Pakistan Gov as far back as of July 3,1979 due to covert operations carried out by our Government for a period of 10 years. That is several administrations back and inclusive of several administrations culpability.Each with a unique excuse for why it was someone else’s fault. the thing that concerns me the most as mentioned before is expost facto and amnesty laws . Those are soverign laws and international laws and in order to hold someone without charge in an undisclosed location you have to follow that country’s laws or you get off on a technicality because they are very intricate and involved and involve as I said immunity if the defense can prove it’s case. If the tribunal is declared unconstitutional, on the legal grounds of what charge against the Patriot act , that the language of ‘good faith ‘ was ambiguous and vague ? then it, the Patriot act falls to do what? Taking the higher moral ground against Al-Nashiri? You don’t set the standard very high there. You will be letting the shark go with the guppies. Did the surveilence and evidence against Al-Nashiri just dissapear?. Al-Nashiri is a freakazoid of epic proportions he commits atrocities against ‘his own’ when it suits him or he gets bored with blowing us up and .the Military Code of Uniformed Justice has no jurisdiction , becasue we are declaring the patriot act unconstitutional and unpatriotic? Again this is a slap in the face to the families and victims that we as a nation are willing to ‘stand on principles of the constitution for enemies of the state, what was that based on ? If He (al-N) were here illegally, and if it was “illegal” for them to be here doesn’t the very act of terrorism make Al-n an enemy of the state and not subject to the constitution? … The last time I checked the victims and families of these attacks were U.S. citizens with the higher need for accountability as to the constitution. They were obeying the law when they were victimized. Are we not in esssence aIding and abeting a terrorist on a technicality? That would make the defense lawyers guilty of the same things everyone seems so hot on acusing Bush and Cheney of ‘war crimes’ ? Or are Bush and Cheney not afforded the same good faith rules that the defense lawyers and the current administration will no doubt! so vehemently cling to when this whole thing goes not the way it was expected. !Bush and Cheney are not victims of this crime !.the families are…Our accountability is to the victims in this case not the perpetrators.and sense there no pevious legal ‘presedence’ to base any of this fiasco..Have you seen and heard the accounts of the attack on the Cole? They were approached by the terrorists as if they were in some kind of garbage boat. A boat that is common to that area and easily recognizable as harmless. The terrorist were waving at them . There was no way of knowing it was coming. They were not rushing the Cole. They were coming up to the cole looking like they were civilians and needed assistance and did not detinate until they were hullside. To witness or be there would scare the crap out of you.This is not the only crime they have this Al-N for , and I’m supposed to beleive the terrorist is the victim? In what freakazoid messed up marvel comic world would I ever beleive that I would want to let this nut back into my country to “try him humanely” or beleive that he was ‘victimized’ by my country for the act of comitting terror in my country? What’s more would he do the same for me? He was not a law abiding citizen he does not need a ‘loophole” He should be tried by the military. That won’t be happening on Feb 9th or in 120 days if the scope of it is made inadmissable due to evidence being declared as illegally obtained on the basis of moral high ground or the amnesty laws kick in or the holding time runs out first becasue it has been heldover until the statute of limitations runs out . That is not high ground that is low ball. He is an enemy not a victim. Excuse the vent but this one touches a really raw nerve.
Does the standard “I am sorry , or I screwed up’ apply as an explaination to the families past present and future? let me know how that works for them…

Groups representing victims’ families were angered by Obama’s order, charging they had waited too long already to see the alleged attackers brought to court.
The survivors of the USS Liberty have waited since 1967 for justice and America should be focused on the terrorist attack on the USS Liberty on June 8, 1967 by Israel. This war crime by Israeli monsters on patriotic Americans serving their country is a tragic, sad chapter of how America betrayed these patriotic Americans and did not hold Israel accountable for this savagery
Meeting a survivor of the attack on the USS Liberty was a profound experience. As he recounted that brutal terrorist attack by Israel, tears rolled down his face He recounted how Israel attacked the USS Liberty, a US intelligence-gathering ship in international waters off the Sinai Peninsula on June 8, 1967, killing 34 sailors and wounding 172. He talked about the bravery and valor of Captain William L. McGonagle and the crew in saving the LIBERTY He said he could remember it as clearly as if had happened yesterday. America must remember this also! It was a colossal mistake not to have confronted Israel! I recommend that you get in touch with a survivor of this war crime committed by Israel and ask him if he believes Israel is an ally of this country. (ASSAULT ON THE LIBERTY — by James M. Ennes, Jr.

Perhaps BObama and the rest of the liberal idiots will hold a tea party for the little darling.

I understand the legality issues of this order. But it’s still a victory for our terrorist enemy just to print the headlines of this matter to the whole world. I can’t help to somehow feel nervous about it because of our flawed legal system. There is loop hole for everything. Transparency ends with war criminals and top secret national security information, which is the way this order should have been treated until completion.

“The new team at the Pentagon did not push for action. On the contrary, Rumsfeld thought that too much time had passed and his deputy, Paul Wolfowitz, thought that the Cole attack was ‘stale.’”
9/11 Commission Report, Page 202
Did. Not. Push. For. Action.
STALE.
How do you think the families felt when your little tin gods were in the Pentagon?

Please………………dittoheads and neo cons have no corner market on national security and patriotism…no more than Tinky Winky has on his purple purse. Fatboy drugger Rush gleaned his expertise from where again? Watching D List Raygun war movies doesn’t count. Try Again Ace!

At least the headline, which was worded that Obama dropped the charges against Nashiri, was changed with the update of the judge who dropped the charges. The headline was particularly inflammatory because a picture of the USS Cole with the hole in it with fire superimposed around it.
I see my previous concern about the headlining and the impact it was having on the postings was removed — even though it wasn’t incendiary, and a number of postings, which are distinctly fear mongering, remain. It’s just an observation of what is and was.

These are either POW’s or they are criminals, but Democrats are bending over backwards to provide the dirtbags with the rights of both.
If they are POW’s they are tried in a military tribunal. To do otherwise violates the Geneva COnvention.
I can’t wait for Obama to relesase KSM.
That will certainly make us all safer.

Get a grip. If we don’t get back to using the constitution the terrorists have already won. Bush/Cheyney trampled that.
If we choose to ignore the Constitution, laws, etc and do things however we damn well please then we are no better than those countries that wish us harm.

If America sacrifices it’s laws and it’s Constitution for an illusion of “safety”, the terrorists will have won. Anyone who argues differently is no more than a traitor. And the biggest terrorists are Bin Laden, Bush and Cheney. All three use terror (fear-mongering) for political gain.

Disappointed, try to actually understand the details and reasoning behind this judgement…you’ll feel better…

I served in the United States Navy for the past five years. I know many people that have served on the USS Cole, and at Gitmo. What the hell is OBAMA doing? How can he call himself the COMMANDER IN CHIEF when he does CRAP like this? SHAME ON YOU OBAMA!!! HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE WORLD TRADE TOWERS, THE PENTAGON, AND THE PLANE THAT WENT DOWN IN PENNSYLANVIA!!!!
SOME PRESIDENT YOU HAVE TURNED OUT TO BE.

What a slap in the face to the familes of the men and woman killed in the Cole bombing. This guy will get an easy chair and perhaps a white guy to fan him and then he will be turned loose upon the American people so he can kill. Well the lefties got their way and now we only have to wait until we are attacked on our own soil by these nuts that Obuma is going to welcome with open arms. What a fraud this guy is. Obama should be tried for treason and the military should be in charge of the trial.

no one should be surprised that obama is taking care of his muslim friends either directly or by applying pressure as in this case. obama is already appeasing the muslims, arabs, palestinians, hamas, hezbollah in the middle east. obama is america’s chamberlain, britain’s diplomat, who appeased germany’s dictator prior to ww2.

I can honestly say that I am scared, this is going to be a long 4 years!

come to Serbia and face real problems!