Feb 11, 2009 2:07pm

Senators Grill Geithner Again on New Financial Plan: Graham Tells Him, ‘You Have No Clue’

ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe reports: After getting grilled by Republican senators for close to four hours Tuesday, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner returned to Capitol Hill today to face more questions about the lack of detail in the government’s financial stability plan, but Geithner’s second stint was no smoother than his first. One lawmaker, pressing to find out if Treasury would ask for more money to right the financial ship, told Geithner, "You have no clue."

"Many of us were looking forward to a plan that could be presented in a straightforward, clear and detailed way," said Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala. "Unfortunately, that is not what we received yesterday."

"The reviews yesterday were not good," he noted, telling Geithner, "I hope you can use the hearing today to put some meat on the bones."

But at this morning’s Senate Budget Committee hearing, the Treasury chief would go no further than the "broad framework" that he outlined yesterday.

"I completely understand the desire for details and commitments," he told lawmakers. "But we’re going to do this carefully, consult carefully so we don’t put ourselves in the position again where we’re laying out details ahead of the care and substance necessary to get it right."

Later Geithner noted, "If it means that there’s disappointment, then I will live with the disappointment."

While he would not provide more details about the plan at today’s hearing, Geithhner did emphasize to Congress that the Treasury would work fast to address the nation’s financial crisis.

"A failure to act with force and speed would be much more costly to the families and businesses across the country," he warned.

Some Republican lawmakers, such as Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, are tired of waiting for more information. Graham said he expected the Treasury to ask Congress for more money than the remaining $313 billion from the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), so today he urged Geithner to go ahead and just submit that request right now.

"I can’t tell you that at this point, but if we think there’s a good case for doing it, we’re going to come tell you how we’re going to do it," replied Geithner.

"Okay, good, so you have no clue," Graham said with disgust.

"No, that’s not the case, senator," said Geithner. "What I will not do is even if you are frustrated by — "

"See, I just don’t believe that that’s enough money to fix housing and banking and I just wish you would say that," interrupted Graham. "Because you’re going to come up here and ask us for more money, I know you will."

Another contentious exchange came when independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont wanted Geithner to call for the ouster of Wall Street chief executives, such as Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein, who testified across Capitol Hill today on the House side.

"You have a person who made hundreds of millions for himself and he led his institution and helped cause a great financial crisis," said Sanders. "We have put as taxpayers $10 billion to bail him out and we have no say as to whether or not he will stay on the job?"

"I did not say that," noted Geithner. "I think there will be circumstances, as there have been already, where the government intervention will have to come with very tough conditions including changes in management leadership of institutions. And where we believe that makes sense, we will do that."

"I just asked you if you believe that’s the case with Goldman Sachs," pressed Sanders.

"In this case I’m not gonna change my answer, but I want to just say one thing: I feel deeply offended by the judgments you’ve seen these board of directors make," Geithner replied.

"But we’re not gonna fire the leadership?" Sanders asked. "And we’re gonna keep these same guys who caused the crisis in power and who made huge sums of money?"

"Where we think that is the most effective strategy for our country, we’ll do that," Geithner said.

"I strongly disagree," argued Sanders. "I think the American people — if they’re going to pour hundreds of billions of dollars into these institutions — want a new slate of leadership."

– Matthew Jaffe

User Comments

Of course. No one on the Obama staff has a clue. It all looked so good on his College thesis paper. It sounded so good in his Marxist college debate clubs. How the government creates work Everyone should be working for the Government and the rest should pay for it. SPREAD your wealth but not MINE is Obama’s and his none tax tax paying cheats MOTO

Posted by: doobie | February 11, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

“I strongly disagree,” argued Sanders. “I think the American people — if they’re going to pour hundreds of billions of dollars into these institutions — want a new slate of leadership.”
Amen. Not only is Geithner a disaster, OBAMA’s a disaster. Even MICHELLE Obama, with today’s faux-”feminine” fawning on “fashion”, is shaping up as a disaster.
Are they just delaying the final crash until after they can transfer the entire Treasury to the corporations, for redistribution for really-really-rich people who’ll “invest” it in exile? They’re holding off on SOMEthing, betcha … lending capital to “private” entities, so they can then cite “private” investment, doesn’t make ANY, not a shred of, sense.

Posted by: Human Intelligence | February 11, 2009, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

i am an Obama supporter. and i am frustrated that a whole lot more isn’t being done to answer questions. coming unprepared for hearings is unacceptable. i’m with Sanders, if you presided over the ruin of your company and raked in millions you should not be trusted with one cent of US taxpayer money. and you should be in the unemployment line making room for recent MBA graduates who are up for the job.
things will be much easier for Obama if there is true transperency and if the perpetrators of this crisis are removed from their companies.
capitalism isn’t looking so good right now.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 11, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Human Intelligence, i mean you have to be fair to Obama. he was only running for office when this hell descended upon us (mismanagement since year one of Reagan). he inherited this mess. i fail to see how Mrs. Obama has anything to do with the topic. but whatever Rush says…

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 11, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Will the GOP and Obama haters ever stop whining? They think Obama has already failed but I can assure them they are living on mars and that kind of thinking is not mainstream.
Its only 3 weeks. Just relax.Obama is doing very good considering the fact that republicans are being obstructionists. They had 8 whole years and they still run America to the ground. Their ideas are old and Obama will not repeat those failed policies.
Simple as that.

Posted by: Krista | February 11, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

Paul wall,
am an Obama supporter too but I disagree with you. Obama is doing what he has to do. First passing the recovery program even when the Repubs are trying to obstruct.
Now with the second move to tackle the housing crisis, I agree Geithner should have given more detail but you also have to understand that doing that now will spark lots of confusion since there are lots of details to it. He should not have held that press conference.
Details will come out soon.
As for repubs all they know is tax cuts. These Reagan trickle down economics have been discredited.

Posted by: Krista | February 11, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Leave it to a limp wristed, slave state Senator (Graham) to force an important issue that has not been finalized yet. He always comes across as some tough ideologue (and McCain’s BFF), when we know what he really is. Come on out of the closet, Lindsey.

Posted by: John Parker | February 11, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Doobie,
90% of the jobs Obama is going to create will be going to the private sector and you call Obama a Marxist?
I have news for you. The self proclaimes conservative Bush signed the first 700bn bailout for the banks. Is that communist?

Posted by: Krista | February 11, 2009, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Human intelligence displays none… Lindsay Graham is another idiot who, along with McCain and the other repubs, haven’t a clue about complex economics. It’s laughable that they can even make comments like this. Did Geithner succeed in his press conference? Not really, but he has time to flesh out a plan. I’d have 1000 Geithners vs. 1 Graham in this.

Posted by: susanb2010 | February 11, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Graham,
we the `whiners` welcome this new Idea from Githner. Not your archaic Ideological deregulation that caused the mess.

Posted by: Norm | February 11, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

thanks,Krista…i agree with what you are saying. i mean i know things need to move fast. Geithner should just have postponed the hearings. but i guess he’s in a catch-22 situation. republicans want perpetual hearings while the nation slowly dies.
i fail to understand why everyone is afraid to mention Reagan in this debacle. no one likes to speak ill of the dead and his demise saddened everyone. but this laissez-faire Reaganomics and Bush I’s voodoo economics that got us here.
if socialism means more accountability and regulation then let’s have that.
we can’t all shudder in fear when we hear “socialistic” with regard to fiscal policy. Limbaugh uses alot of words that he has no idea of their meaning. and i don’t ditto anything Rush says.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 11, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

“marxist” is another Limbaugh fear word. USSR was not marxism. Mao wasn’t marxism and the Khmer Rouge weren’t marxists (although we supported them when it suited us). read Marx before you trash. he was an economist after all maybe everyone could learn something?

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 11, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

I’ve heard the bailout payments will average out to $439 a year over a thirty year time period for taxpayers. That’s over 140K. I don’t want to bail out on what amounts to criminally run companies; but since that’s going to be done, I want the best precautions and procedures for the remainder of my money. So I’m not too happy when some pundits and GOPers insist on an immediate release. The same Rethugs demanding an expedient release of TARP funds from Geithner were also the same ones trying to obstruct the stimulus bill from passing. Go figure.

Posted by: kathy | February 11, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Flimsey Graham is gonna swoon if he’s not careful.

Posted by: Trish | February 11, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

You think Capitalism looks bad, why do you think China and Russia gave up socialism?

Posted by: Frank W | February 11, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Will someone Please for the Love of god Get rid of GRAHM,I belive its you and your Party sir that doesnt have a clue look at the Mess were in because of you!

Posted by: Angie | February 11, 2009, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Frank W—i don’t know if China and Russia are capitalists or not. for the vast majority of their citizens the change has meant nothing.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 11, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

nd i would add, Frank W, that Russia didn’t “change” because of capitalism or the failure of socialism but was a revolution demanding rights and democracy. democracy and socialism are not incompatible, just look at Sweden. yeah they pay taxes, but longest life span, best health care in the world. just read up.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 11, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Obama doesn’t have a clue, either.
He’s still campaigning! Will he ever actually lead or govern?
No– because all he knows how to do is read a teleprompter and tell lies to the American people.
“No earmarks or pork”-yeah, right, Obama you liar!

Posted by: Michelle | February 11, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

Geithner was supposedly so gaddamned important that he had to be Treasury Secretary, despite having cheated (yes, cheated) on his taxes. I saw him on television yesterday, and he was less articulate that Rosie O’Donnel and showed less gravitas, somehow, than Dan Quayle.

Posted by: Mesquito | February 11, 2009, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Does Lindsey Graham think he is the king of America? Somebody tell me where his arrogance comes from. SC, please get rid of him.

Posted by: Question | February 11, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

I just hope you Obama supporters have a plan B. Boy are you gonna be upset when the one and his band of tax cheats fall flat on their faces and take us down with them. They are “playing” government-they have no clue-Geithner is an idiot and all obama can do is read and listen to his closest advisors who are lying to him! He needs to get rid of his yes men if he wants to really make his presidency work.

Posted by: Judi in Texas | February 11, 2009, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Two weeks ago we were told this tax cheat was “Mr. Indispensable.” Now we discover that he couldn’t find his ass with a five-hand working party.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | February 11, 2009, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

“Later Geithner noted, “If it means that there’s disappointment, then I will live with the disappointment.”"
Secretary Geithner takes the Fifth, and if you don’t like it, you can suck eggs. He can live with that!
Either Geithner’s got no plan or he’s afraid to put it on the table for actual exegesis. So far, only the maneuvering is transparent. We’ve got your deus ex machina governance coming right up.

Posted by: JM Hanes | February 11, 2009, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

JM Hanes, well how ’bout cutting the polysyllabic trash and just resurrecting Reagan since republicans have all the answers. not only are they responsible for this mess but are obstructing its solution as well.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 11, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

The GOP all they do is grandstand. Will someone ask them what happened to all those tax dollars they reduce for the wealthy? How did that help this country? Did it reduce the national debt? Did it create well paying and stable employment? NO.
If you tell the GOP what your going to do they complain about it, if you don’t they whine about it.
I think he is telling them to stick it, which is something he needs to do.
The GOP their only purpose is to be negative. The “can’t do” GOP. Weak and ineffective.

Posted by: Thinking | February 11, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

tax shelter, tax shelter, tax shelter, LEGAL!!!!!!!!! get rid of every tax cheat on capitol hill, and pass a usage tax where EVERYBODY has no choice but to pay taxes.

Posted by: brenda | February 11, 2009, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

Judi in Texas, the Obama administration has released plan A. it’s time for the republicans to come up with plan B, which will mean tax cuts for the corporations who caused this mess, tax breaks for the wealthy and a little $300 check to make us grateful to the republican party. the mess won’t get fixed.
to all the haters, the facts are this: the republicans have no plan. they are simply pretending to be concerned about the american taxpayer and obstructing Obama’s efforts.
2008 was a demand for change. no change from the republicans. no change from even the McCain republicans.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 11, 2009, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm

brenda—yeah there should be a tax for everything. offshore tax havens have to become illegal (but a republican fat cat no likely to disappear). all the tax cheats aren’t on capitol hill. they are the bankers and corporate CEOs who created this mess. tax them heavily. they are rich people who make millions of dollars which is deposited into carribean banks. that’s as unamerican as you can get.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 11, 2009, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Give the tax cheat a chance.
Why question Obama’s judgement about Geithner?
Rezko,Ayers,Wright,Bagojevich, Richardson, Daschle, Kellifer–Obama’s history of poor judgement.

Posted by: harry | February 11, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

harry, jeesh! look at the repub crooks in the previous administration. tax cheating were the least serious of their problems—outing CIA agents, firing career prosecutors for political reasons, war crimes…

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 11, 2009, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

Geithner to Graham: “I can’t tell you that at this point, but if we think there’s a good case for doing it, we’re going to come tell you how we’re going to do it,” replied Geithner.
Did not he say, “.. tell you how the hell we’re going to use it”? That is what I heard.

Posted by: nm | February 11, 2009, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm

For the poor, somewhat hysterical Mr. Paul Wall, it may be soothing to recollect that no one in the Bush administration has been charged with any war crime; and a special prosecutor investigated allegations that CIA agents had been unlawfully outed and charged no one with any such crime. There was a single criminal conviction in connection with the whole thing, whereas the Whitewater investigation alone resulted in 17 felony convictions and an impeachment.
As for what got us into this mess, there is no literate person alive who does not recognize that it was a benign, well-intentioned government policy of encouraging home loans to people who couldn’t pay them back.
What is curiously absent from any of the rantings of these loons is any expression of belief that what Nancy Pelosi has just done will help the country. They’re simply reduced to praying that it will, and complaining about Republicans. Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Franklin Raines (the Democrat CEO of Fannie Mae who made off with $90 million from buying up bad bank loans) seem to escape scrutiny. Not very persuasive, dopes.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | February 11, 2009, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm

Thinking states: “If you tell the GOP what your going to do they complain about it, if you don’t they whine about it.”
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Wow thinking…….did you hear turbo tax Geithner say anything about what the Obama administration was going to do??? Has the “transparency” suddenly disappeared??? Is it about jobs and reducing the national debt??? Please be intellectually honest and let us know TWO years from now how it all worked out.

Posted by: socialism101 | February 11, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

socialist 101 says: “…there is no literate person alive who does not recognize that it was a benign, well-intentioned government policy of encouraging home loans to people who couldn’t pay them back.
I say: Wow, you present a real chicken or the egg conundrum; did your arrogance facilitate your ignorance, or did your ignorance facilitate your arrogance?
Either way, the result is the same. You’re just another reliable stooge for the right wing echo chamber, faithfully spreading this new idiocy; blaming the Community Reinvestment Act for taking down the entire global financial system. And the CRA cratered wall street in just two short years making the same closely regulated loans they’d been making for the previous twenty eight! A heinous, racially-tinged assertion designed for and spread by the fools that really want to believe such b.s.
It is a categorical and indisputable fact that deregulation, leading to over leveraged securities and unfunded credit default swaps is at the heart of our current crisis.
The two bipartisan actions that allowed this melt down to happen:
The Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 that allowed banks, brokerage firms, and insurance companies to offer exactly the same services.
The Commodities Futures Modernization Act of 2000 which, amongst other things, deregulated lending derivatives thereby making it possible for banks, brokerage firms, and insurance companies to issue and trade credit default swaps without any government oversight.

Posted by: KLS | February 12, 2009, 1:13 am 1:13 am

Somehow I don’t think Lindsey hurt Geithner’s feelings. There wasn’t a Senator in the room whose economic theories meant squat to anyone but his or herself. Geithner and Obama are perfectly fine with letting Republicans do what they do best, winning the news cycle and then losing the war.
Obama knows he doesn’t need approval from the sniveling privileged of Wall Street, the semi-hysterical, uninformed pundits, or the puerile Republican opposition. Cool breeze is five steps ahead, eyes down-field, setting up plays for games they don’t even have on their schedules. Obama leads while his slow witted, overweight opposition flails at thin air before plodding to a spot on the field he’s already left.
Barack Obama,
Making Republicans cry like your little sister since July of 2008

Posted by: LarryCraig20012 | February 12, 2009, 2:15 am 2:15 am

The great brilliant Obama and his genius treasury secretary Geithner have decided to spend another trillion dollars on the bailout. This is after liberals criticised the first bailout.

Posted by: Greg h | February 12, 2009, 4:04 am 4:04 am

So this is change?
Geithner sounds like Barack Obama III with his evasive answers which promise change but acts on status quo.

Posted by: Der Kempt | February 12, 2009, 5:01 am 5:01 am

There they go again!!!!!!!!!!!!Graham should run for Prez, since he couldn’t pull his limping side-kick across the finish line. What a Fraud! I didn’t hear a “peep” from you sir, when your former party boss was robbing the country. What was your cut?

Posted by: sngeorgia | February 12, 2009, 9:34 am 9:34 am

“If it means that there’s disappointment, then I will live with the disappointment.” That sounds like the FBI guys in Die Hard -Agent Johnson1 “We’ll lose 20 – 25% of the hostages” Agent Johnson2 “I can live with that”

Posted by: W Miller | February 12, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am

This adminstration is in so far over their head they don’t know which way is up. Obama is lost ! And Geitner, how can a man who could’t figure out Turbo Tax have a clue of a plan. And this is the guy who had to be nominated because he was part of the original bailout plan. What a joke! Obama in the press conference did’n want to take “Tim’s” thunder away and talk details. There is no plan, no details. Welcome to CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN. I’m nauseous.

Posted by: Joe | February 12, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

meanwhile in Texas where the crisis is beginning to hit hard and people are being laid-off Cornyn skips the US Senate vote on the stimulus package to pal around with Wall Street friends. this has got to be the most hypocritical, obstructionist, corrupt politician. sad thing is he was once a judge on the state’s supreme court (paid for by corporate donations). Senator Cronyn, even though you were just re-elected millions of texans will remember your hypocritical corruption and make sure you never see another 6 years in the Senate.
pretending you were so concerned about the package and dodging away for lunch with corrupt CEOs while the vote was happening.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 12, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

aw, Joe’s nauseous…got throw up and go back to your fancy job or playstation. solving the financial crisis is an occasion to take cheap shots then you’re not hurting enough. you probably have off shore accounts. at least Geitner paid his taxes and penalties. do you pay taxes?

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 12, 2009, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

Fascist Hyena—i believe someone was charged in the outing of a CIA agent in the field. this person was convicted, sent to prison and pardoned. (Libby ring a bell?, probably not but rest assured he has a nice job on Wall Street). i never said anyone was convicted of war crimes, only that they were committed. back to your howling or playstation or whatever it is you do.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 12, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Hummm….still trying to find that clause in the ‘big document’ they’ve all sworn to protect & uphold: The Constitution. Guess I missed in college where extended UNEMPLOYMENT, funding STD research (which is already done in the PRIVATE sector) or frisbee golf courses they 1) are allowed to give $$ (MY taxes) to, 2) create/save jobs (what happens when that course, bridge, road, etc. is FINISHED??)

Posted by: David D. | February 12, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Wow, Paul Wall. Why all the hate and wealth envy. Attack the person instead of the valid points they bring up. But no, any ‘peon’ that did what Mr. Turbo Tax did would already BE in prison. Now go and enjoy your extra $13/week ‘our President’ will be signing (don’t forget to pay the TAXES on that ‘extra’ either)….*roll eyes*

Posted by: David D. | February 12, 2009, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm

Paul Wall wrote that the current crop of top bank executives “should be in the unemployment line making room for recent MBA graduates who are up for the job.”
While I agree that these greedy CEOs should be in the unemployment line (or better yet, prison), it seems to me that they should be replaced with competent bank regulators, not MBAs.

Posted by: pointus | February 12, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

pointus, thanks. i agree that regulators should replace the executives.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 12, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

David D.—i don’t hate the wealthy, just the wall street crowd that put us in this mess. if sitting and doing nothing would improve the economy i would be for that. what do you propose to help the economic situation? since you are obviously wealthy and have multiple sourses of income and no corncern for you finances you can see that wealthy people make omissions honestly. yeah i can use Turbo Tax but i don’t think the average person with 15 sources of income can. and people make mistakes.
but the IRS will spend $100,000 to fine someone using the 1040 $50 before they will ever look into individuals with complex income situations. i guess that’s how the rich get and stay rich.

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 12, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

We should not of bailed them out, the free market would of allowed those companies that are running well and not needing a “hand out” to rise and those that are doing bad to fail. We have instead propped up these businesses artificially. When a lion gets older and can no longer protect its territory, another, younger healthier lion takes it place. We have intervened in the circle of free market enterprise.

Posted by: Thomas | February 12, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

There was a GOP proposal that the MSM didn’t really voice: I forgot which Congressman from TX but it was a tax holiday. Basically, the gov’t thinks $800 billion is a good stimulus package, which is how much money the Feds collect in income and payroll taxes in 6 months. So, we taxpayers don’t pay any of these taxes for 6 months, instead we keep it and spend it how we see fit. That way, the people who earned the money get to decide who receives economic stimulus, rather than lawyers in Washington, DC. Not a bad idea. The lawyers on the Hill wouldn’t like it because it reduces their power (and, what would happen when the tax holiday ended?…), so you won’t see it happen without A LOT of pressure from us voters.
The better choice, of course, would be to just stop taxing production altogether — just tax consumption. Overconsumption got us here (both private and public) fueled by the loose monetary policy of the Fed Reserve, so tax that. Why tax production? Isn’t that by definition counterproductive???

Posted by: svedberg | February 12, 2009, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

Thomas—”can no longer protect its territory, another, younger healthier lion takes it place.” i agree with you. but know that the new lion will not be the US but China. perhaps the market should decide. it will collapse, then what?
there are many countries with less arrogant and selfish populations and more vibrant, productive economies with strong regulations that will plow us under.
i don’t know what to think. numbers mean nothing any more. trillians of dollars. it’s so abstract.
how bad are things going to get?
and i understand some will say blame obama for this mess or the republicans for the crisi, but at the end of the day…what do we do?

Posted by: Paul Wall | February 12, 2009, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

So what is going to happen to Barney Frank and Chris Dodd? They were overseeing the financial part of the housing fiasco and report to the Bush administration that everything was fine and no adjustments were needed just a year before the bottom fell out. Oh…they stay and the private sector upper managment is terminated. Typical Democrat B.S. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should be fired by the voters. But they actually are there CHASTISING THE CEO’S…unbelievable!!!

Posted by: DJSGT | February 13, 2009, 10:37 am 10:37 am

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