Stimulus Bill On-line, Critics Say It Contains Pork

Jake any luck with those certificates yet. By the way his counsel is trying to block his records from Occidental College to be released. Jake where is the openness and transperency he promised. Don’t you believe it’s pretty simple to put an end to all of this and say here it is. I remember Bush’s first go around the media focused for a month on his military record. Jake I know you see right thru this administration. Come on man what are you waiting for.
A high-powered team of Los Angeles attorneys representing President Obama in his effort to keep his birth certificate, college records and passport documents concealed from the public has suggested there should be “monetary sanctions” against a lawyer whose clients have brought a complaint alleging Obama doesn’t qualify for the Oval Office under the Constitution’s demand for a “natural born” citizen in that post.

Jake when you applied at ABC did they ask you where did you go to school. Did they look at your grades. What else did they ask you in your interview. They made the right decision in hiring you, but what did they base that on. Surely not just your charm.

People can differ on whether spending on a particular project is worthwhile or not. Of course, Repubs. call spending which creates jobs while improving our health care, educational system, green transition and transportation infrastructure “pork”. Any money allocated by the federal gtovernment which does not flow through tax cuts or special incentives to big corporate interests and fatcats is “pork” by their definition. The GOP had their 8 years of near total control of our government and they showed what they would do with near total control. And they daxx near ruined our country.

How they try to hide
Lax housing regulation
Got us in this mess.
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Kim, you said “There must have been a lot of “pork” spent somewhere in the past 8 years. So much “pig” it called the financial system to collapse!”
Two wrongs don’t make a right. That bailout shouldn’t have happened either.

Pork to who – the Repubs? To the rest of us American taxpaying citizens, the economic recovery plan contains help – help with our infrastructure, creating jobs and improving our education and standard of living. Isn’t that what the money we pay for taxes is supposed to do, or is it just to fight Wars?

Stop spending our tax!
The format here is wonky
And has you mixed up.
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PORK Pelosi/Harry”we surrender” Reid/ and “doh” bama have a vendetta against the taxpayer.. to spend all they can till they are thrown out of office
Timmy TurboTax Geither’s”no plan” has cost billions in the market already.

Shocking, novel thought.
Leave the money where it is.
Why redistribute it?
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An earmark by any other name…..
If it walks like a pig and oinks like a pig, it’s pork….
Depends on what your definition of “earmark” is…..

This bill has as much chance of doing harm as good….so good grief take some time to weed out the chaff. Get rid of dubious initiatives. The sheer dollar amount of bill can sink our dollar value if it fails to stimulate.

You know I read what is contained in the bill and I do not see anything that is Pork – I see jobs and tax breaks for the average American and opportunities to get grants or loans for schooling, I see engergy conservation and good things for future engery useage and transportation upgrades and aid to our ailing infrastructure. None of this is pork in any way shape or form. The critics are just sore losers because they refused to participate in any meaningful way so they sit back and criticize. How very childish of them! Grow up neocons – your spoiled childish pranks are getting very old and tiresome.

eyeonyou Really you read 1400 + pages wow. Where can I go to read it.

This is ridiculous in the extreme, high-speed rail projects is pork?
Shipyards? New technologies as lithium ion batteries is pork? TSA uniforms?
All these “pork” projects guarantee jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, and more jobs.
Even when you accept these provisions as alleged “pork”, they still total only a little more than 12 billion.
That is a total of 1,534%
Far less than the 70 Billion in AMT tax which targets only the Republican PAC contributors, a Corporate Welfare Queens Project.

eyeonyou Really you read 1400 + pages wow. Where can I go to read it.
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My guess is that you didn’t even read this column as there are links posted herein to the Package.
And I also guess you didn’t read it, so you negative attitude about it is just repeats from someone else?

Jake any luck with those certificates yet. By the way his counsel is trying to block his records from Occidental College to be released. Jake where is the openness and transperency he promised. Don’t you believe it’s pretty simple to put an end to all of this and say here it is. I remember Bush’s first go around the media focused for a month on his military record. Jake I know you see right thru this administration. Come on man what are you waiting for.
A high-powered team of Los Angeles attorneys representing President Obama in his effort to keep his birth certificate, college records and passport documents concealed from the public has suggested there should be “monetary sanctions” against a lawyer whose clients have brought a complaint alleging Obama doesn’t qualify for the Oval Office under the Constitution’s demand for a “natural born” citizen in that post.

Take it from an Obama voter, me. This bill is chock full of pork. The largest pork bill in the history of this nation.
I feel like I was duped into all of this hope and change. Seems nothing has changed except the letter in parenthesis from (R) to (D).
This is a pork bill and that is fact. Calling it something other than that just proves you’re a political hack and you’d go along with any plan and follow blindly right off the cliff.
3 weeks in and I wished we could have a “do over”. I wouldn’t vote the same.

Jake when you applied at ABC did they ask you where did you go to school. Did they look at your grades. What else did they ask you in your interview. They made the right decision in hiring you, but what did they base that on. Surely not just your charm.

The Republican definition of pork is anything that benefits another constiuent’s (especially Democrat’s)voters and not their own. They are very willing to accept government spending in their district or state but someone else’s and god forbid it should benefit the nation as a whole. Enough of this crap….pass the damn bill and get on with the recovery from a recession brought upon us by the previous Republican administration!

This is the best and freest place on the planet
It was until 60mil people alot of them first time voters drank the kool aid.
How do you feel about giving the palastinians $20.3 million dollars and a free ticket to ride to the U.S. of A
$20.3mil, that could create some jobs. that could feed starving children right here, the best and freest place on the planet

For the Koolaid drinkers who are saying there isn’t any pork in the bill:
Even Democrat Senator Schumer said there was pork but that people don’t care.

Anyone else notice how much the market has tanked since Obama took office? You’d think he could buy a clue, but since he can’t even vet his own cabinet and has ended up with so many tax cheats, apparently he can’t figure out anything.

Again with the Rush Limbaugh come backs do you guys really believe alll this stuff? I listened for eight long years to fear and hate and now I listen to fear and hate you guys are not happy with a two party system you want a one party GOP system and it isn’t going to happen. What by the way is wrong with first time voters….Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh think you need to pass a test to vote, is that a thing you’ll get behind? No one votes unless you say they should…NICE.

Bonnie Kimberly let me put it another way. Approximately 10-12 middle eastern men attempt to make it in the United States each MONTH thru Mexico. Question how did they get to Mexico only to find out they want to come here. The 20.3 mil could of been spent to shore up the border. Did we really, I’m sorry OBAMA need to spend $20.3 million dollars for that. I think not. As for your veteran remark, I would rather be in PAIN.

“Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh think you need to pass a test to vote, is that a thing you’ll get behind?”
Voters should be tested to see if they are alive or dead. Those who are dead should not be able to vote.

The entire stimulus package should be scrapped, with Congress(all of them) admitting that this was a travesty. A true stimulus package could be put together with each item carefully scrutinized for pork that will actually stimulate the economy not feed the pigs. They could try coming up with something that will not turn us into a debtor nation or a socialist/fascist nation.

I wish folks would stop playing semantic games. The president pledges proudly there are no “earmarks” in the bill, knowing the low opinion most have of earmarks. But of course there are no earmarks. That is not the same as no pork, no wasteful spending, no pet projects/groups rewarded for their political loyalty or financial support of a particular politician or group of politicians. There is TONS of that in the bill. And the president knows it. Schumer knows it, admits it on the floor of the senate, and has the nerve to say the american people do not care.
Of course, he has a point. Don’t see the pork? Just see useful projects? Well, we will have to agree to disagree. My major concern is that projects that may indeed be worthy and valuable are being pushed through via the stimulus bill rather than go through normal channels, with the scrutiny and debate on the specifics that a normal piece of legislation can be afforded. And once the funding has been granted, even though the idea behind the stimulus bill is SUPPOSED to be targeted, temporary increased spending to stimulate the economy, it will be well-nigh impossible to get it back down in the future. Already we see that, when during the negotiations, moderates suggested cuts to the proposed amounts for stuff, Pelosi and company started shrieking about “cutting funding” as if existing money was being taken away. I’m talking about things like the increase in Pell Grants (my personal hobby-horse as an educator, I admit) and the school construction funding. This is extra-ordinary, supposedly one-time, beyond the regular budget funding for special needs, not ongoing funding of normal operations.When people start demagoging about money for police officers and school children in this way, I worry about where this is headed. Next year, if this increased level of funding of such things is not continued, might Pelosi and company not talk about evil, unpatriotic people who are cutting funding for these things? It’s maddening.

Even Democrat Senator Lautenberg (sp?) was complaining yesterday they had not been given the chance to read the bill.
Now it’s been announced that the bill was distributed last night at 11:00 p.m. It’s over 1,000 pages!
This isn’t a representative government. It’s insanity and all being pushed by Pelosi who wants to leave at 6:00 p.m. for an 8 day European trip.

Even the bipartisan Congressional Budget Office says a lot of the bill is pork and won’t stimulate the economy. And more and more economists are attacking it every day.
We can see how Wall Street is reacting – they hate the bill.
And could we stop calling it these Orwellian names. It’s the anti-stimulus bill.

The Congressional Research Service, the public policy research arm of the U.S. Congress defines earmarks:
“Provisions associated with legislation (appropriations or general legislation) that specify certain congressional spending priorities or in revenue bills that apply to a very limited number of individuals or entities. Earmarks may appear in either the legislative text or report language (committee reports accompanying reported bills and joint explanatory statement accompanying a conference report).”
Earmarks don’t stop being earmarks because the President redines them for the moment.

US consumer confidence polls out today: Fall sharply.
Mr Hope and Change — buy a clue. Wall Street isn’t confident of your ability to lead. American consumers aren’t confident of your ability to lead. Your own party has lost confidence in you. The UK papers have been a hoot to read and they’ve largely lost confidence.

No earmarks? Right. Let’s call it Wagyu beef instead.

Gee Obama,
Most of who aren’t high realize you can’t spend your way out of debt.

When even John McCain, who seems to live for accolades from Democrats and reaching across the aisle, calls the Porkulous Bill an abomination, we know it’s bad.

Lisa, perhaps you didn’t hear one of the 9/11 victim’s mothers say that she was a lifelong Democrat and voted for Obama but given his position on stopping the trials and closing Gitmo, she’s sorry she supported him.
Obama campaigned on:
no lobbyists (his cabinet is filled with them)
no backroom deals (the Dems closed out the Republicans in the House 2 days ago)
more transparency (how is it transparency when you try to ram legislation through that will force all Americans into having medical decisions made by the feds)
Said we all had to sacrifice and could no longer heat our homes at 72 degrees but David Axelrod was quoted in the NYT saying Obama likes it warm and you could grow orchids in the White House it’s so hot
said he’d call out those who injected pork or earmarks into bills (the porkulous bill is loaded with them)
said he’d put all legislation on the WH web site for 5 days before he signed any bill (promptly signed 2 bills — Lily Ledbetter and SCHIP — without putting them on the web site)
lectured repeatedly about needing more bipartisanship (but immediately went into a roomful of Republicans and attacked Rush Limbaugh and Fox News)
And you think that it’s not possible that some posters are legitimately sorry they voted for the poseur? ROFL

For the kool aid drinkers — even today’s Washington Post says that despite promises, there’s pork in the (anti) stimulus bill.

Sigmonde – you’re absolutely correct.
It didn’t work with the Japanese. It didn’t work in the depression. If spending stimulated an economy, the USSR would still be in business. Instead, they spent themselves into oblivion trying to outspend Reagan on the arms race.

So the largest spending bill of our lifetimes is being voted on without our Congressmen reading it. How does that make you all feel?
The bill was finally released last night at 11:00. The bill was finally released in PDF formating which means you can’t keyword search it. Lots of people can’t easily use PDF downloads.
This is a scam.
Don’t we have a watchdog media?
I’m trying to imagine what the media would be saying if Republicans did this. Imagine Trent Lott saying we have to vote by 6:00 so I can go on an 8 day tour of Europe.

Does anyone know:
Will Congress exempt themselves from the healthcare provisions in this bill?

“The bill was finally released last night at 11:00. The bill was finally released in PDF formating which means you can’t keyword search it. Lots of people can’t easily use PDF downloads.”
“Our” representatives ought to go try to download that pdf on dialup, for example. (Did all the Congressional and “Obama” organization websites suddenly er CRASH, or what?)
Uh … and wasn’t one of The One’s non-op “promises” that NO legislation would be passed without time for discussion?
Slipping in the “Lily Ledbetter” bill and pretending it provided for “equal pay” was ONE thing, but rushing THIS piece of crap into being is DEFINITELY dictatorial.

Sigmonde: epic fail. New labor and employment *is* created with the brick. It didn’t exist before.
After the brick, the glazier has work and now HE has the potential to commission a suit from the tailor = two jobs.
Before the brick, only the baker had potential to commission a suit = one job
But your analogy is flawed even more because your premisse only exist in a fixed moneysupply economy. Stimulus is deficit spending, also called investing.

We, America, demonstrated the highest level of selfishness in November when we put an inexperienced man in charge of the most powerful position in the world. We wanted to be the first generation to break the racial barrier, and vote for the first African-American man as President. We are now paying for that inexperienced candidate…I voted on experience and intelligence regarding economic matters. The person, I believe who had a chance to lead us out of our present troubles..Alan Keyes…Unfortunely Mr. Keyes was not afforded the same respect as McCain and Obama, not included in debates..Now we can only look forward to 2010 Congressional elections…

“The feds are going to force our medical records online”
Yes online medical records where one’s doctor has access mean fewer mistakes or duplications especially with people who see several doctors or have to take many medications.
They are not going to be online on Thomas.gov.
“but they were hysterical when Obama’s passport information was illegally released by people who hacked online.”
The State Dept employees who were unauthorized to access Obama, McCain and Hillary Clinton passport files (among several dozens other celebrities) and did so anyway were fired, went to trial, pled guilty and will serve a little bit of jail time.
The records were not hacked online.
All the right wing has are scare tactics.
And because some many dittoheads are gullible, the tactics work on them.

“The bill was finally released last night at 11:00. The bill was finally released in PDF formating which means you can’t keyword search it. Lots of people can’t easily use PDF downloads.”
Gee you mean you might have to actually read the bill instead of skimming it and posting false information like Betsey of the Hudson Institute?

Only a few billion for ACORN after they helped get Obama elected?
And after they worked so hard to sign up dogs, cats, goldfish and Disney characters.

Just one example of how the government can NOT manage ANYTHING!
The Digital TV conversion…..
House version…..
DIGITAL-TO-ANALOG CONVERTER BOX PROGRAM
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, and in addition to amounts otherwise provided in any other Act, for costs associated with the Digital-to-Analog Converter Box Program, $650,000,000, to be available until September 30, 2009: Provided, That these funds shall be
available for coupons and related activities, including but not limited to education, consumer support and outreach, as deemed appropriate and necessary to ensure a timely conversion of analog to digital television.
SENATE version….
DIGITAL-TO-ANALOG CONVERTER BOX PROGRAM
For an amount for ‘‘Digital-to-Analog Converter Box Program’’, $650,000,000, for additional coupons and related activities under the program implemented under section 3005 of the Digital Television Transition and Public Safety Act of 2005, to remain available until September 30, 2010: Provided, That of the amounts provided under this heading, $90,000,000 may be for education and out reach, including grants to organizations for programs to
educate vulnerable populations, including senior citizens, minority communities, people with disabilities, low-income individuals, and people living in rural areas, about the
transition and to provide one-on-one assistance to vulnerable populations, including help with converter box installation: Provided further, That the amounts provided in the
previous proviso may be transferred to the Federal Communications Commission (Commission) if deemed necessary and appropriate by the Secretary of Commerce in consultation with the Commission, and only if the Committees on Appropriations of the House and the Senate are notified not less than 5 days in advance of transfer of such funds: Provided further, That $2,000,000 of funds provided under this heading shall be transferred to ‘‘Department of Commerce, Office of Inspector General’’ for audits and oversight of funds provided under this heading.
Final version….
??????
650 Million dollars more for a program that was supposed to be 100% up & running NEXT WEEK!!!
approx 1.3 BILLION spent on it already and with incredible success…
As of 4 PM on Wednesday, The Govt had mailed out 47.9 Million coupons out of 52.4 Million requested coupons. Of the 47.9 million already mailed out, 15 million have EXPIRED!!!! 31% of them have EXPIRED!!!! What a complete joke!
So, with all the efforts to get the word out over the past year-plus, we are now holding the complete turn-on date back and spending 650 Million more!

Even FDR’s Treasury Secretary admitted that throwing money at the depression didn’t help and made it worse.
I know Ryan C will have a hissy fit and deny it, but ya’ll can google the words:
FDR Treasury Secretary said money didn’t work

So Obama’s promise to give 95% of American a tax cut was a lie. Naturally.
What he’s doing is giving workers a $13/week cut in the social security tax they pay and next year only an $8/week cut.
#1 – 95% of American’s don’t work. There are seniors, college kids, etc. So that 95% break isn’t true.
#2. It makes zero sense given that Social Security is nearly broke.

Willem van oranje…..
Being an “historian” as you claim to be, is the following true or false?
“FDR’s Treasury secretary and close friend, Henry Morganthau, conceded this fact to Congressional Democrats in May 1939: “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work.”

“What he’s doing is giving workers a $13/week cut in the social security tax they pay and next year only an $8/week cut.”
Think positive. You can use that 13 or 8 bucks to help pay your income taxes.

Sigmonde – Exactly correct regarding FDR’s Treasury Secretary’s quote.

“FDR’s Treasury secretary and close friend, Henry Morganthau, conceded this fact to Congressional Democrats in May 1939: “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work.”
Its appears every wingnut has been sent this quote.
I have traced it to a right wing nut book on FDR that came out lat last year but I can’t find his original sourcing.
And while Morgenthau and Roosevelt did not always see eye to eye, I’m not taking some wingnut’s word for it on this quote.

Not one Republican voted for the stimulus.
Thank goodness for their bravery even with threatening radio spot ads from Americans United for Change and AFSCME.

“I’m beginning to think you are an expert on writing platitudes.”
Google gave me a couple of hundred thousand hits on the quote.
All right wing posts/or sites.
Its a talking point with no original sourcing and given the right wing author’s propensity to make things up or misrepresent them, I would like an original source.

“Just check out the article: Ruin your health with the Obama stimulus plan by
Betsy McCaughey.”
You mean the bought and paid for by Pharma lady who was shown to be LYING in her bloomberg editorial?
You know the lie I showed you yesterday that you continue to repeat.

I notice that Jake has reported on what Obama says earmarks are. It’s always interesting to see the left change the definition of things.
Oh, and Ryan – historians have been writing about FDR’s Treasury Secretary for years, but apparently history books aren’t your thing.

Ryan C..I believe you would agree that our current economic and foreign issues take priority …….and follow me…
Social issues are a luxury of a healthy economy and safe and secure Nation..
And again, I am not a conservative nor a liberal. I am a realist…

I find it interesting that all you Rush Limbaugh fans are under the impression Obama is losing support, people who voted for him are now regretting it, etc, etc.
Every opinion poll I’ve seen has Obama’s job approval ratings in the 60s or higher. Given that he received something like 53% of the vote in November, that means roughly 10% MORE people approve of what he’s doing than voted for him.
Mathematics is fun.

Bush and now Obama think it’s in our nations best interest to leverage our independence with Chinese investors.
So Bush could topple Saddam and now the Pelosi, Reid, Obama pipe dream.
No fiscal responsibility in either party.

“Why don’t you show us how that article by Betsey is a lie?”
Well let’s see she claimed the bill created a new bureaucracy the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology when that has been in existence for 4 years now.
Then she outright lies about its purpose
“will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). ”
The relevant and referenced passage
(3) reduces health care costs resulting from inefficiency, medical errors, inappropriate care, duplicative care, and incomplete information;
(4) provides appropriate information to help guide medical decisions at the time and place of care;
All the pathetic right wing has are fear tactics supported by outright lies.

“Yes, you are correct – he’s in the low 60% approval right now. Two weeks ago it was 83-85% approval. ”
The 80% number was approval of how he was handling the transition.
Job approval numbers started when he took office. And the numbers are about the same as they were two weeks ago.
Gallup & Rasmussen do daily polls with 3 day rolling avgs
For today
Gallup: 66%
Rasmussen: 60%
One off polls that are less that a week old include
CNN: 76%
PEW: 64%
CNN is a likely outlier.

Here is Betsey’s excellent article which talks about how healthcare will be rationed, especially for the elderly.
It will be interesting to see if Democrats exempt themselves from the provisions in the bill.

“Ryan C..I believe you would agree that our current economic and foreign issues take priority …….and follow me…”
So how does Keyes position of Israel Uber Alles and his non existent background in economics help in either field?

“Here is Betsey’s excellent article which talks about how healthcare will be rationed, especially for the elderly.”
Also feel free to take a gander at Media Matters which shows how the bought and paid for opinion of Betsy was brought to you by the same folks who did the lying Helen and Louise ads during HillaryCare.
You can also see how she quotes the bill out of context and outright lies about elements contained within.

“Ryan dear, you said Betsey lied. You haven’t shown how she lied. She talked about a new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology. It is quite new and has never really been up and running to do much.”
Its over 4 years old.
It is not new and its certainly not newly created by the bill which is how she describes it.
She is lying.

“Still waiting for you to prove what she lied about….tap, tap, tap.”
I already did. That you reject reality is your problem.
“No hurry – I know you need your talking points from somewhere.”
Talking points…roflmao…you mean how this article went from Betsy to Drudge to Rush to Foxnews and back to Rush again.
When the original article was made up!

Of course, lying is nothing new to Obama.
He said while campaigning that:
1) He couldn’t employ lobbyists. His cabinet is filled with them.
2) He said he would have a transparent administration. Yes, so transparent he threw in a steal nationalized healthcare plan that rations care for our elderly. So transparent the Democrats locked the Republicans out of a committee hearing room 2 days ago and so transparent the bill wasn’t available to be read until 11:00 last night.
3) He said during his inauguration there would be no backroom deals. See #2 above.
4) So Congressmen, who had to vote on the bill today, didn’t have it until 11:00 last night, but lobbyists sure had their hands on it. Even Democrats were complaining about this one.
5) Obama says we all have to sacrifice and can’t heat our homes at 72 degrees but keeps the WH at greenhouse temperatures.
6) Hires tax cheats although he said we had to get the corruption out of politics.
7) Said we had to be more bipartisan and immediately went into a room filled with Republicans and attacked Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. classy /sarcasm

Gosh there’s an article out now quoting a DEMOCRAT who says not one member of Congress has read the bill.
Thanks for ramming something down our throats that none of the idiots in Congress has read.
If Obama had a brain in his head he’d tell them all to do their darned jobs and send it back to Committee.

Obama said he wouldn’t sign any legislation without putting it on the WH web site for review and comment for 5 days.
“He broke that promise within the first week in office when he signed the Lily Ledbetter legislation and given that he intends to sign this new legislation on the (anti) stimulus next week, I can see he intends to break that promise yet again.”
The Ledbetter legislation was debated and passed then vetoed by Bush.

“Gosh there’s an article out now quoting a DEMOCRAT who says not one member of Congress has read the bill.”
Anybody pretending to represent OTHERS who “voted” for something without knowing what he/she voted for should be arrested, removed from office, and locked in a dungeon somewhere.
Congress voted for the Patriot Act the very SAME way. If we have a dictatorship, why spend all the money and aggravation to provide the marginally-decorative window-dressing of several hundred Congress-persons?

Human Intelligence – I agree with you 100%.
This is the largest spending bill we’ve ever seen in this country and a democrat congressman is guaranteeing that not one member actually read the thing.
I well believe it because I’ve seen several legislators interviewed on various channels and they are clueless about what’s in there.
And when asked why it makes sense to spend so much money and put our country into debt, not one of them has a good answer.

Ryan C – are you really unaware that Obama signed the Lily Ledbetter legislation his first week in office? Really?
Wow.

Ryan C -
Obama signed the Lily Ledbetter legislation his first week in office. He didn’t put it on the WH web site for 5 days which was a campaign promise he made.
Now, I know you’ll call me a liar again.
For posters who are interested in the truth, google these words:
Lily Ledbetter+Obama

Mike C – Exactly.
Giving Democrats control of our healthcare and even more of our money is insanity. These people can’t manage their own money.
There’s a relatively famous story that’s old now and I think I remember the details.
The Senate used to use our tax dollars to run the Senate dining room. The food was awful and expensive and every year cost more and more tax dollars to support.
So legislation was passed to give the running of the restaurant to a private contractor. In the first year he improved the food and made a profit.

Ryan…It’s OK for you to make a mistake once in a while. Don’t be so defensive. People will think you are thin skinned.

This is on the WH web site:
One significant addition to WhiteHouse.gov reflects a campaign promise from the President: we will publish all non-emergency legislation to the website for five days, and allow the public to review and comment before the President signs it.
Maybe the president considered the Lily Ledbetter legislation to be an emergency.
If so, heaven help us in a true emergency.

Peach, thanks for posting that Huffington Post article. The left is furious that Obama broke his promise to post legislation on the web. You know you’ve made a huge mistake when even Gibbs admitted they goofed.

“Peach, thanks for posting that Huffington Post article. The left is furious that Obama broke his promise to post legislation on the web”
How funny.

Has the media fallen down laughing yet whenever Obama lies and says there is no pork in this bill?

“The congressional record shows that the law was passed in the senat eon 1/22/09. Passed in the House on 1/27. Signed by the President on 1/29. So there were only 2 days between the final passage and the signature.”
The House Bill passed 1/9/2009.
The Senate Bill passed 1/22/09.
The WH posted a link to the bill on their Blog on Jan 25th.
The House passed the Senate bill 1/27/09.
Obama signed it 1/29/09.
“That’s NOT what the president promised.”
Considered that you lied about what was promised not sure how you can complain about it.
You will complain of course but that is another issue.

“Not one House Republican voted for it. LOL”
And yet it will pass, peach, and President Obama will sign it into law. Who’s LOLing now?

Would any of you sign a 1,000 page contract without reading it first? Then how could any Representative vote FOR and how can any Senator vote FOR this spending bill WITHOUT FIRST READING the entire document?

“Democrats own it. Don’t blame anyone else when it fails to deliver.”
Obama has already stated this is on him.
Which is a refreshing change.

Peach, google “Lily Ledbetter and Bush” for the history of the bill. no one thinks you are a liar just not informed.

Hmmm. It sounds like Obama was telling the truth, no earmarks.
The stimulus bill is a tournequet needed to stem the bleeding.
As far as anyone still talking about Obama’s birth certificate, you’re divorced from reality. The main proponant of the fake certificate theory had to admit that his handwriting experts verified that signatures were valid.
At least talk about something real.