By Caitlin Taylor

Feb 25, 2009 8:10am

The Note, 2/25/09: Getting It — Hope returns to Obama rhetoric — but what will follow?

The hope is back. And the question is the same for a skeptical Congress, a jittery public, and a Twittery set of pundits: In a time of nervous, narrow thinking, can a president elected to do big things get the nation to think big again? With no shortage of audacity, President Obama made the connections he needed between what he’s already done and what he wants to do next. There was the now-typical mastery of a crowd, a room, and a larger audience (if perhaps served with an extra helping of partisan meat). But as he looked out over a bright House chamber assembled for another historic gathering Tuesday night, the president just might have glimpsed the limits of his own power. Start with the Republicans who couldn’t quite bring themselves to rise to their feet at his cue (and who couldn’t hold back a jeer or two when Obama turned lecturer on fiscal discipline). Add to that Obama’s broader problem: that he remains far more popular than the ideas he needs to sell. And he hasn’t even picked out most of the hard items — those tough choices we always hear so much about — from his menu. Is the state of the nation’s union with the new president strong enough to make it all happen? He gets it, he says — so will the public take it? For those with long memories: “Not since Franklin Roosevelt delivered his first fireside chat, eight days into his presidency, have Americans been more hungry — and more desperate — for economic leadership. And not since FDR has there been an economic agenda as bold or ambitious, or as likely to reshape American capitalism,” Steven Pearlstein writes in The Washington Post.  “It remains an open question whether by trying to do so much so fast, Obama will be able to create the momentum and sense of urgency necessary to overcome pushback from many Republicans, the inevitable opposition from special interests and the natural tendency of the system to return to the old political equilibrium,” he writes. The president is still feeling his way through the new job (surely he’ll know how to wait out applause by next year’s speech). But it only gets trickier from here. “The young new president projected a voice of generational confidence to a public that by one measure is less confident than at any other time since Mr. Obama was in grade school,” Peter Baker writes in The New York Times. “Mr. Obama skated past his disagreements with Republicans to claim a broader mandate to seize ‘opportunity from ordeal.’ Though he pushed through a huge economic recovery package in his first month in office, he failed to forge the partisan consensus he had sought. So his speech before a nationally televised audience on Tuesday was a chance to shift from legislative leader to national leader.”  “After soaking in the applause and shaking hands on the way out of the chamber on Tuesday night, Mr. Obama now must find a way to get his own credit flowing to cash in on a big investment,” Baker writes. Obama “straddled the divide between fear and hope,” The Wall Street Journal’s Jonathan Weisman writes. “The speech, 52 minutes long, punctuated by more than 60 ovations, was billed as a rhetorical salve to a nation battered by layoffs and plunging stock prices — and a tempering of pessimistic rhetoric from the Oval Office over the past few weeks.”  “It didn’t seem like he moved everyone in the hall,” ABC’s George Stephanopoulos reported on “Good Morning America” Wednesday. “He began on hope, he ended on hope. Now, in between, there’s an awful lot of hard things to be done, and the president did not engage in any kind of happy talk. But I think he made a start in inspiring hope out in the country.”  Not wasting a crisis: “Obama spoke about the stimulus plan and financial market stability plan as immediate, short-term actions taken by his administration to jump-start the economy. But in order to fully restore the economy, he called for long-term investments in energy independence, health care, and education in order to create new jobs, industries and renewed global competitiveness,” ABC’s Karen Travers and Jake Tapper write. “In a clear tonal shift from his first month, Obama seized the bully pulpit of his office to offer more hope than angst to a nation desperate for reassurance,” the New York Daily News’ Thomas M. DeFrank writes.  “President Barack Obama gave America the audacity to hope again,” the AP’s Ron Fournier writes. “He was blunt but bullish on America. . . . In short, he reminded people that America has always seen itself as a ‘shining city upon a hill,’ as one of its earliest leaders, John Winthrop, put it — a metaphor that Ronald Reagan reintroduced effectively in the 1980s.”  More Reagan talk, from David Brody, of the Christian Broadcasting Network: “Reagan was also good at understanding that his audience was always the American people and not the people in the room. President Obama seemed to understand that as well. . . . It was pitch perfect.”  A different age? “A key question is whether voters will be as patient with Obama. Roosevelt was president at a time when the pace of politics was not measured in 24/7 news cycles, and expectations of government intervention were not high,” the Los Angeles Times’ Janet Hook writes.  “What matters is whether voters continue to trust him. And Obama — in a rigidly honest, careful way — showed last night that he will fight to keep that trust by presenting himself as the embodiment of the national interest,” writes The Boston Globe’s Peter Canellos.  Newt Gingrich was watching the tone: “Nobody messes with joe and the smiles and nancy handshake resembled a democratic pep rally not a state of the union–sophomoric and silly,” he Twittered.  (Dana Milbank collects the best of the Tweets from the House floor — and comes to a sensible solution for suddenly Twitter-mad Washington: “Should these guys maybe spend time fixing the country and leave the Twittering to somebody else?”)  The red meat was seasoned for a reason: “The entire speech was laced with shots, some more obvious than others, at the former administration. They were all harnessed to a single purpose: convince the public that every risk Obama takes or dollar he spends is to clean up the mess Bush either left behind or failed to address,” Politico’s Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen translate.  Some morsels went down better than others: “The president skipped over several complex economic circumstances in his speech to Congress — and may have started an international debate among trivia lovers and auto buffs over what country invented the car,” Calvin Woodward and Jim Kuhnhenn write in their AP fact-check.  The next steps begin: Per a Treasury official, Secretary Tim Geithner on Wednesday will announce that first-time home buyers can start applying for the newly expanded $8,000 tax credit, at irs.gov. Geithner will make the announcement at a morning meeting with HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan and other stakeholders, an official tells The Note. Vice President Joe Biden, to ABC’s Robin Roberts on “Good Morning America”: “We’re going to make sure that the people who in fact bought the five-bedroom home when they should have had a two-bedroom home, they’re not rewarded. We’re trying to reward those people who were caught in the crossfire.” And take three for Commerce: The president introduces his latest choice for secretary, former Gov. Gary Locke, D-Wash., at an 11 am ET event at the White House. “Mr. Locke, a Democrat, is viewed as generally business-friendly and pro-trade. He is likely to provide a sympathetic ear to multinational firms in the administration. He also is regarded as a skilled and experienced strategist when it comes to domestic economic-development projects,” John D. McKinnon writes in The Wall Street Journal.  Not much talk of foreign policy Tuesday night — but that changes soon: “President Obama will likely announce a pullout of U.S. troops from Iraq later this week, according to a Defense Department official,” ABC’s Martha Raddatz reports. “Obama has been given three plans by the current top U.S. commander in Iraq, Ray Odierno, for troop withdrawal — 16 months, 19 months or 23 months. The official said it appears Obama is ‘trending’ toward 19 months, although the decision is coming [from] Obama, not the Pentagon, the official said. While campaigning for President, then Sen.-Obama pledged to drawdown U.S. forces in Iraq within 16 months. But he was always careful to add that troop withdrawal needed to be done carefully.” “The timetable would give the military three months more to withdraw than the 16-month pullout Mr. Obama promised last year on the campaign trail. Officials said he was prepared to make that shift because he agreed with the concerns of ground commanders who wanted more time to cement security gains, strengthen political institutions and make sure Iraq did not become more unstable again,” The New York Times’ Peter Baker and Elisabeth Bumiller report.  “Obama has not made a final decision on the matter, but it could come during a trip to give a speech in North Carolina on Friday,” The Washington Post’s Ann Scott Tyson and Anne Kornblut report. The agenda continues: healthcare and education and service and energy . . . “He tried to strike a balance between describing the symptoms of the U.S.’s financial woes and prescribing a cure. That prescription went well beyond the crisis that has forced banks such as Citigroup Inc. and Bank of America Corp. to seek billions of dollars in federal aid, to include the expansion of the government’s role in health care, energy and education,” Bloomberg’s Hans Nichols and Julianna Goldman write.  With healthcare the topic next week, The American Prospect’s Ezra Klein reports that Obama will take his coverage plan further than he did in the campaign: “The health care proposal in Obama’s budget will have a mandate. Sort of,” he writes. “Here’s how it will work, according to the officials I’ve spoken to. The budget’s health care section is not a detailed plan. Rather, it offers financing — though not all — and principles meant to guide the plan that Congress will author. The details will be decided by Congress in consultation with the administration. One of those details is ‘universal’ health care coverage.”  As for the GOP response — Gov. Bobby Jindal, R-La., may have wanted that one back. It read better than it sounded. Paul Begala, at The Daily Beast: “It wasn’t a fair fight. Watching Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal’s painful, sing-song response to President Barack Obama’s powerful and plain-spoken speech felt like watching an over-eager child trying to box Muhammad Ali.”  Politico’s Andy Barr rounds up the criticisms: “Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-La.) hoped to step into the national spotlight Tuesday night to sound a hopeful yet defiant note in countering President Barack Obama as the GOP’s fresh and exciting face. Instead, he got panned.”  New party branding, in the making: “Republicans responded to President Obama’s first address to Congress on Tuesday by vowing to work with the White House while also holding fast to principles of limited government and fiscal discipline,” John Fritze writes for USA Today.  How does this fit in? “Republicans are expected to deliver a daylong rant Wednesday against Democratic spending legislation, yet the bill is loaded with thousands of pet projects that Republican lawmakers inserted,” McClatchy’s David Lightman reports. “Rep. Ralph Hall, R-Texas, included $142,500 for emergency repairs to the Sam Rayburn Library and Museum in Austin, Texas. Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., joined state colleagues to include $1.425 million for Nevada ‘statewide bus facilities.’ The top two Republicans on Congress’ money committees also inserted local projects.”  Advice for the president: “I would call on him to veto it,” said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. Civil war brewing in Kentucky: “Sen. Jim Bunning all but declared war this morning on his own party’s Senate campaign committee chairman and threatened to sue the GOP if committee officials recruited an opponent to run against him in Kentucky’s 2010 Republican primary,” James R. Carroll writes in the Louisville Courier-Journal.  Said Bunning, R-Ky.: “I don’t believe anything John Cornyn says. I’ve had miscommunications with John Cornyn from, I guess, the first week of this current session of the Senate. He either doesn’t understand English or he doesn’t understand direct: ‘I’m going to run,’ which I said to him in the cloakroom of our chamber.” The Kicker: “I did big wooohoo for Justice Ginsberg [sic].” — Sen. Claire McCaskill, among the Twitter-crazy lawmakers in the House chamber, applauding with BlackBerry in hand, per The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank. “Nobody messes with Joe.” — President Obama, maybe messing with his vice president just a little bit. 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User Comments

We were going to watch Obama last night but prior to his address the news media spent so much time fawning over him. It was time to turn it off and realize that there is a real life going on and not the one protrayed by the news media that elected him!

Posted by: Stoltz61 | February 25, 2009, 8:32 am 8:32 am

We kat sell hope for free. If you are in deep doodoo, we can always sing a purr.
We also have a dial-a-hope network to create hope on any issues you may encounter.

Posted by: kat | February 25, 2009, 8:35 am 8:35 am

If last nights words were his first words before he started yelling CRISIS to spend rush through a SPENDING/BRIBE bill I would buy it. NOW, all I can say is SHOW ME. SHOW ME, that you can do this without huge deficit spending and without destroying the military. You also said you will need to spend more? How do you do that and bring down the deficit?
I would love to believe in you President Obama but your credibility is shot. So you will have to prove you can do these things before I buy another word. My suggestion is you focus on CUTS first of everything NOT military
and talk about spending later. Good LUCK with that.

Posted by: ChicagBob | February 25, 2009, 8:40 am 8:40 am

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Posted by: pink stocks are a scam | February 25, 2009, 8:43 am 8:43 am

What is Obama really promising? (1) Government to make all your health care decisions. (2) Universal education through college (okay, we suppose to pay for that too and what of those who are just not cut out for college?) (3) So-called greenhouse regulations that will drive up the costs of goods and services (there is a lot of scientific dispute over the theory, repeat, theory of global warming) (4) more government control over the economy (5) more bailouts for the UAW … Sounds like he is sweet talking us into what some may call liberal tyranny.

Posted by: Patrick | February 25, 2009, 8:44 am 8:44 am

Socialized medicine and larger, more intrusive government will not help rebuild America, any more than FDR’s bold New Deal did in the 1930′s. In fact, economists now admit that government meddling and billions in ‘make work’ jobs served only to prolong and deepen that crisis. Much of the bloated welfare programs we now can no longer fund date from the New Deal era. How can more of the same possibly help any of us?

Posted by: h5mind | February 25, 2009, 8:47 am 8:47 am

The honeymoon is over. The lights have been turned off and the big tent has been taken down. Now reality sets in and Obama can make all of the great speeches he want’s but now action speaks a lot louder then retoric and Obama is not cutting it. My only question is, how long is it going to be before the MSM turns on him? When it happens it will be with a vengence.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 8:48 am 8:48 am

I thought his speech was fabulous; he showed strength, resolve and character. And I like the fact that he’s attempting to cut through bureucratic drag and make it happen now, not 20 years from now. He has my vote again. and I did vote for Bush. Shame on me.

Posted by: Rita | February 25, 2009, 8:49 am 8:49 am

Now he’s going to cut the deficit? By increasing Bush’s bloated spending dramatically? And then when of course he can’t deliver this fantasy, it’ll be “Bush’s fault”, we can assume… since he reminds of this every day.
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This speech was typical Obama, present a show with some statements to impress the plebes, sew the seeds for blaming his own deficits on the Bush Administration, and completely ignore the fact that he’s just signed the largest spending bill in US history. This is like Stalin giving a speech deploring conditions in his Siberian gulag.
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It’s about time Obama got called-out on his incredulous statements and disingenous “goals”. He’s been writing his own story while the MSM just parrots it for far too long, and very little of it squares-up with reality. Maybe the press could do their job already, we’ve had enough articles on Obama’s puppy-vetting process and how he likes to play basketball.
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Obama clearly couldn’t deliver the type of temporary, targeted, and timely “stimulus” he repeatedly promised. He completely lacks the the political stature to control Pelosi and Reid… who hit the trough hard, while bickering like siblings.
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And the paucity of GOP co-conspirators exposed Obama politically… this legislation now looks to be a huge gamble. When all this pork and welfare fails to generate real economic gains, the Democrats could face a bloodbath in 2010. Historical precedent and all common sense suggest that it will not work. This is likely to be his first and last chance to get the economy back on-track before the mid-term elections.
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One could make the arguement he knows his legacy will already be in tatters by 2010-2012.. and is ramming through as much of his far-left agenda as he can before the day comes when people cringe at the mere mention of his name… sure seems like it.
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Posted by: Reaganite Republican | February 25, 2009, 8:49 am 8:49 am

I am not at all sure that Obama “gets it.”
And I, for one, do not buy it. He sounds more like a Hitler as each day passes — he can’t let a day pass without a propaganda speech.

Posted by: macmillian&co. | February 25, 2009, 8:50 am 8:50 am

Did’nt Watch… Dont Care!!!!

Posted by: for sure | February 25, 2009, 8:51 am 8:51 am

How can more of the same possibly help any of us? >>>>>> What I like to know is the Press and commentators that stupid? How is it they sit there in total amazement when its obvious that we are getting recycled plans that did no good in the 30′s 70′s and 80′s. The people hooked on the government welfare were destroyed. It destroyed their work ethic, their belief in themselves. It created a totally dependent subculture that too decades to correct.
And if he talked about HOPE when he first started talking about the economy then I would say OK its a mixed message of reality and calm. To come from CRISIS… to Hope.. It sounds disingenuous now.

Posted by: ChicagBob | February 25, 2009, 8:53 am 8:53 am

The man thinks America invented the automobile. ‘Nuff said.

Posted by: Kitty | February 25, 2009, 8:54 am 8:54 am

obama keeps taling about education, then why is florida talking about a 4 day school week and cutting teachers, or their salaries,

Posted by: pink stocks are a scam | February 25, 2009, 8:54 am 8:54 am

Rita What about his speech could you believe? Obama does not deliver… He is a great speech maker.

Posted by: ChicagBob | February 25, 2009, 8:55 am 8:55 am

Make no mistake about it, Obama’s speech last night represents the start of a quiet social revolution. His plan as outlined last night sets the US on a path to social transformation never seen before in the US history.
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Posted by: Average Joe | February 25, 2009, 8:57 am 8:57 am

Why not call and leave BHO a comment about his so-called “spending spree” to fix the economy? Let him know his lies won’t work any longer.
Here is the number:
202-456–1414

Posted by: majorminor | February 25, 2009, 8:58 am 8:58 am

So far the only change we have is a Trillion dollars in spending of money we dont have on programs that wont kick in until the recession is over. CBO estimates 2010 without spending a dime.
The only hope he has given me is CRISIS for the past 60 days. Is there anyone that believes this man NOW? His Actions are opposite of his words. So for all folks who got you big tax break of $13 a week (WOW arent you impressed) get ready he will take double away with taxes on everything else.

Posted by: ChicagBob | February 25, 2009, 8:59 am 8:59 am

In these dire times, when we are in deep recession, please tell me WHY WE HAVE TO GIVE GAZA $90 MILLION TO RE-BUILD??????????????
Obama and his democratic congress suck.

Posted by: Kristenlee | February 25, 2009, 9:00 am 9:00 am

I wish he would make a stipulation that this stimulus helps only the registered Democrats first, since the Republicans don’t want any part of it. Let them starve so trhere will be more Democrats for the elections in 2012.

Posted by: bob | February 25, 2009, 9:00 am 9:00 am

INVENTION OF AUTOMOBILE — The milestone vehicle was built in Germany in 1889 by Gottlieb Daimler and Wilhelm Maybach. Powered by a 1.5 hp, two-cylinder gasoline engine, it had a four-speed transmission and traveled at 10 mph. DID NOT EXPECT THIS KIND OF ERROR FROM OBAMA. BUT, I ADMIT, WHEN HE SAID IT IT SOUNDED GOOD.

Posted by: Geo | February 25, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Illegal aliens can apply for mortgage relief under the Obama administration’s $275 billion plan, according to immigration experts and a group the government will use to help homeowners modify loans.
Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies in Washington, D.C., told WND approximately 1 million households headed by illegal immigrants acquired mortgages through the beginning of 2007, before the housing bubble burst.
“There is no legal prohibition against illegal immigrants owning homes,” he said, “and in most cases mortgage lenders will accept a taxpayer ID or a Matricula Consular card issued by a Mexican Consulate office as identification to illegal immigrants from Mexico.”
Chad Buchanan, a manager at SaveMyHomeUSA – a group cooperating with the Obama administration that assists homeowners facing foreclosure – told WND illegal immigrants who own a home “could certainly apply under our program.”
“We don’t target or go after illegal immigrant customers,” he said. “But if an illegal immigrant owns a home legally, we could try to help them under our program.
SaveMyHomeUSA is seeking job applications for loan modification processors to work in the Obama administration mortgage modification program.
“A lot of mortgage modifiers out there never ask about the legal immigration status of the homeowner, and we do not ask either,” Buchanan said. “This is the first time I’ve had that question asked. All we are looking to do is to modify the current note, regardless what the legal immigration status of the client is.”

Posted by: Bing | February 25, 2009, 9:05 am 9:05 am

President Obama Does get it! Great Speech we will Rebuild, but its going to Take time. Whats up With Jindal Speaking to People like they were 5 Year Olds what an Awful Speech no Hope No fired up Nothing,The Gop are in Trouble!

Posted by: Angie In PA | February 25, 2009, 9:06 am 9:06 am

Pub the Republican War Criminals in Prison NOW!

Posted by: 33Greeper | February 25, 2009, 9:06 am 9:06 am

The real solution would be to give all the rich people and corporations more tax breaks and give them a stimulus package of $1 trillion. Then they could hire more illegal immigrants to save money for themselves. That would really stimulate the economy. Can’t you all see that?

Posted by: rich | February 25, 2009, 9:06 am 9:06 am

so all you youngsters, simple-minded middle-aged whites and ALL blacks—–now that you have “made history” by voting for a far far left liberal community organizer, WAS IT WORTH IT?

Posted by: jacked | February 25, 2009, 9:08 am 9:08 am

Angie In PA You were looking at your next president, Jindal

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:09 am 9:09 am

so all you youngsters, simple-minded middle-aged whites and ALL blacks—–now that you have “made history” by voting for a far far left liberal community organizer, WAS IT WORTH IT?
Posted by: jacked | Feb 25, 2009 9:08:44 AM>>>>>>It was worth more than electing the guy who completely ruined our great nation>>>BUSHIE!

Posted by: bob | February 25, 2009, 9:10 am 9:10 am

rich I have one question for you. How many poor people have put you to work?

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:10 am 9:10 am

Where was your “conservative” outrage when Bush was ripping off your tax dollars and giving it to his war profiteering buds who electrocuted our troops in their shoddy showers in Iraq?

Posted by: 33Greeper | February 25, 2009, 9:11 am 9:11 am

Oh, you guys pounding On Obama and his horrible policies are SO CORRECT. If only GEORGE W BUSH and Rumsfeld were still in there- those days were sweet.

Posted by: Jon | February 25, 2009, 9:14 am 9:14 am

Where was your “conservative” outrage when Bush was ripping off your tax dollars and giving it to his war profiteering buds who electrocuted our troops in their shoddy showers in Iraq?
Posted by: 33Greeper | Feb 25, 2009 9:11:47 AM
WHAAAT?????

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:14 am 9:14 am

I am amazed that people are saying he is just a great speech maker. He is a highly intelligent man who has the want for change. We as Americans have to want to change as well. Look around — children are disrespectful, our schools are more concerned with the state tests that they are graded on than if our children are actually learning anything,our healthcare keeps rising while our pay rates stay the same and we need some serious change in order to stabilize this country. As Obama said this is something that has been brewing for decades. If people open there eyes, truly look at what is happening around them they will see things need to change. Will the Stimulus pkg chg this??? Who knows but at least he is trying to go forward with everyone in mind not just a certain group. I am always amazed when members of Congress do not stand up and clap for the President when everyone else does. Can you imagine doing that in a meeting at your job?? You may not like what your President is doing but they have a business to run and your job depends on how they handle the business. The President has the entire nation to look out for – Congress needs to support and guide with their knowledge. Don’t act like 2 year olds!! Accountability needs to be top priority! In everyday life we need to be accountable for our actions let’s start making our elected officials accountable as well. We placed them in these positions make them work for us and if they don’t pick someone else the next time. Change is hard but it can be a great thing!!! He and the rest of our elected officials definitely have a tough road ahead of them. I wish them luck as my childrens future and their childrens future depend on it.

Posted by: Penny S | February 25, 2009, 9:14 am 9:14 am

So what do you Haters purpose we Do?Do things the Same? continue the Same road We have Been Traveling for 8 Years?If you keep doing things the same and nothing gets better, Then its time to try New things. Like the President said we can take this crisis and turn it into
Oppurtunity and Rebuild this Country Better. We are America we will Bounce Back! but its going to take time and Patience!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:14 am 9:14 am

High risk? Anything the inept government and its elected bunglers try is high risk. Get the public trough feeders out of the way and let the free markets do their job. And don’t whine to me about some CEO that took advantage of the system . . . jail him and get on with it. The more you let the politicians bungle. the more you decrease the longevity of this once great Republic. You’re choice is simple . . . let the free enterprise system revitalize itself or prepare to live in “Idiocracy”.

Posted by: rplat | February 25, 2009, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Jon I would take those days in a second compared to what we have now.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:15 am 9:15 am

“Illegal aliens can apply for mortgage relief under the Obama administration’s $275 billion plan, according to immigration experts and a group the government will use to help homeowners modify loans.”
OH NO- NOT ILLEGAL ALIENS!! No wonder the market fell 7000 points.

Posted by: Jesus Christ | February 25, 2009, 9:16 am 9:16 am

PENNY S
Great Post spoken like a true American!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:16 am 9:16 am

I hope everyone wore their boots last night because the ____ was deep. First talking about what he has spent and he will spend,and in the next breath talking about fiscal responsibility. What a joke with Nancy and Harry in charge.
He needs to quit blaming Pres. Bush. He did inherit a deficit, but he “slyly” asked Pres. Bush to go ahead and release the last $350 billion of TARP before he took office so that wouldn’t be added to the $1.2 trillion he has already spent in the first month!!!!

Posted by: ssmith | February 25, 2009, 9:17 am 9:17 am

ANGIE IN PA YOU WERE LOOKING AT YOUR NEXT PRESIDENT
In your Dreams Billy Bob in your Dreams ha ha hahahahahahahahah

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:17 am 9:17 am

Our prosperity and international standing has gone up in flames over the last eight years, and it seems like the Republicans are toasting marshmallows over it.
We are about to lose our automotive industry, we have lost billions to fraud in rebuilding Iraq, our banking sector is tettering on the brink, and Republicans are milking the situation for the sake of “rebranding” themselves as fiscal conservatives (after getting us into this mess in the first place.)
Obama isn’t perfect, and yes, I see through the showmanship, but give him points for DOING something, and at least TRYING to make us look competent to the rest of the world.

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 9:19 am 9:19 am

Angie in PA Your niavity in falling for the CHANGE line of BS is going to make this recession last a lot longer than it should. The Republicans have offered a lot of different solutions but were told to sit down a keep quiet. Good luck with your CHANGE.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:19 am 9:19 am

He Didnt Inherit a Deficit from Bush
Now thats Laughable! Just Laughable! Bush Spent us in this Hole with 2 Wars most of our Money if not all went to the Wars and Oil! Keep Telling yourself that nonsense Haaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaa

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:20 am 9:20 am

“Let them starve so there will be more democrats in the elections in 2012″ Ha! Dems believe in gay marrige and abortion! Pretty soon you will be the extinct party! Also, you do know there is another 450 billion dollar spending bill making its way through congress right now don’t you? If this keeps going there won’t be anyone left to vote. I also agree with the poster who asks why in this time of “crisis” is Obama planning on sending 90 million dollars to rebuild gaza when some americans can’t even afford to feed their children? Oh, I know. Do you?

Posted by: notafan | February 25, 2009, 9:21 am 9:21 am

Amy Why are you so worried about what the rest of the world thinks about us???? Are you one of those that worries about what your friends think about what you do???

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:22 am 9:22 am

hope is not a strategy. And what is ABC talking about buy into.—WERE BROKE. Bail out these banks that charge you $50.00 being 1 minute late on a payment but now want the same people they extort money from to help them. CRAZY!! Just a simple thought, if a person was spending more than they earn and go’s to the bank and says–I’m in financial straights and lending me money will get me out of this, what do you think the answer would be. A loud NO!! And the “messiah” thinks spending is how you fix it. YOu fix it by not spending like ordinary americans due. Stupid is as stupid does

Posted by: brian Burkart | February 25, 2009, 9:22 am 9:22 am

If Obama wants to change the US and restructure the econmomy as he sees fit, then he better tell the average Joe out thee to prepare for double digit unemployment rate. Restructuring is not without pain and the Obama loving media refuses to point it out.
As for deficit reduction, Obama is a joke have increased spending by a trillion dollars within a month of coming to office.

Posted by: Rational American | February 25, 2009, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Billy Bob
What have the Republicans offered oh wait dont tell me I Know More of the Same, More Tax cuts Right? Tax Cuts,And More Tax Cuts. The Republican Party needs to Think Anew Get up with the Times into the 21st Century, We tried their way look around It didnt Work!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:23 am 9:23 am

Angie in PA Keep laughing. I want to hear from you in four years.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:23 am 9:23 am

No way, No How! I’m not buying what he’s selling. What’s he selling? Our kids futures, our retirement savings, our liberties and country.

Posted by: bo | February 25, 2009, 9:24 am 9:24 am

Billy Bob
The Republicans Have a 37 Percent Approval Rating, The People do not Trust them With this Economy. why would you support a party that Put us here in the First Place? We Tried their way Look at what their ways has Done!Are We suppose to Continue Their ways?

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:27 am 9:27 am

Angie in PA You do not know what working is but you are about to find out. Business is the only thing that always gets us out of a recession, not the goverment. Keep standing there starring into the headlights but do not be suprised if you get run over.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:27 am 9:27 am

This is the first time in decades I hear a President state what he is going to do in clear and understandable language….he is having a health care meeting placing someone in charge next week…he said this cannot wait and must be taken care of. He is going thru port and things that are not necessary with a fine tooth coomb which will help the deficit along with taking troops out of Iraq….
He gave a fabulous speech and was sincere…it’s the first time in a long time I actually listened to a president and he made sense and I didn’t get bored and turn off the tv.
I’m fed up with people who are bashing him…he has been in a month and has done more to help straighten out this country than Bush did in all 8 years.

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 9:28 am 9:28 am

Barb If this is straightened out I would hate to see this country when things are bad.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:30 am 9:30 am

By ALL MEASURES a “Great Speech!” A’s on Articulation, Content, Context, Delivery and Cross-Party Acceptance & Assessment.
Now the NeoCons are simply limited to “Preaching Fear!” And that’s to maintain a semblance of a Political Support Base (of the political-spinners, the mis-educated and ill-informed.)
Now before the “Slick Republican’s” spin “their web” on Taxes, most of us know this; On TAXING THE WEALTHY -that’s increasing taxes on those with NET INCOME (after Decuctions) exceeding $250K (Gross Income would likely be 2 – 3 Times the $250K figure.) And that certainly WILL NOT cause 95% of Small Businesses to be Taxed at a higher rate!!!

Posted by: bobj72 | February 25, 2009, 9:30 am 9:30 am

It was hard to watch this whole speech. I couldn’t keep my eyes off the two idiots sitting behind “The Savior” – This man will never be my President. I believe in America but I cannot put any faith in this man… Author Rick – what does Mr. Obama “get”? He sure doesn’t “get” how I feel about this whole mess…

Posted by: Tess | February 25, 2009, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Billy Bob
Please do not tell me What working is. I work 2 Jobs! And yes Business is what drives the Economy, But look around The Private Sector is Falling Collapsing. What are we suppose to do Nothing? Now I am no fan Of big Goverment. But this is No ordinary Recession.Businesses are closing Left and Right The Banks Have To Start Loaning again so Business can stay in Business

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Well, unfortunately the nation had to “buy” it regardless of whether it wanted to or not.
All of barry’s talk about transparency turned out to be nothing more then a lie with the passing of the “stimulus’ bill. The American people were given 6 hours to look it over before washington voted, and with the positive poll #’s for the bill slipping drastically everyday, barry simply stepped up his “doomsday” rhetoric in order to achieve his socialist goals.

Posted by: dave | February 25, 2009, 9:32 am 9:32 am

“Why are you so worried about what the rest of the world thinks about us????”
We want the world to invest in our businesses, to buy our products, to support our military actions, to join our diplomatic efforts, yeah, it matters what the world thinks of us.

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Another 450 billion dollar spending bill! wonder if he’ll “go through it line by line” like he did the last one? Yes We Can! give the government all our money! What a joke the democrate party is with all their defending of this inexperienced man. He is going to bring this country to our knees. This guy is all talk but please don’t dig too deep or you’ll make him angry and we don’t want that do we? By the way, did anyone hear Joe Biden couldn’t remember the web site for the recovery program he is in charge of? What a bafoon!

Posted by: notafan | February 25, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am

Billy Bob
We Need to worry what the world thinks of us We are in a Global Economy!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Angie…the liberal CONgress has an even lower approval rating. The lowest in history.

Posted by: bo | February 25, 2009, 9:34 am 9:34 am

We kat sell hope for free. If you are in deep doodoo, we can always sing a purr.
We also have a dial-a-hope network to create hope on any issues you may encounter.
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Good leaders can infused bad situations with hope and inspire action. Dial- a – hope or prayer has become obsolete nowadays with landlines disappearing and Internet menus prevailing. Get with the 21st century, Ajax, and stop imitating women and cats.

Posted by: kat the real one | February 25, 2009, 9:35 am 9:35 am

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama knows Americans are unhappy that the government could rescue people who bought mansions beyond their means.
But his assurance Tuesday night that only the deserving will get help rang hollow.
Even officials in his administration, many supporters of the plan in Congress and the Federal Reserve chairman expect some of that money will go to people who used lousy judgment.
The president skipped over several complex economic circumstances in his speech to Congress — and may have started an international debate among trivia lovers and auto buffs over what country invented the car.
A look at some of his assertions:
OBAMA: “We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages. It’s a plan that won’t help speculators or that neighbor down the street who bought a house he could never hope to afford, but it will help millions of Americans who are struggling with declining home values.”
THE FACTS: If the administration has come up with a way to ensure money only goes to those who got in honest trouble, it hasn’t said so.
Defending the program Tuesday at a Senate hearing, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said it’s important to save those who made bad calls, for the greater good. He likened it to calling the fire department to put out a blaze caused by someone smoking in bed.
“I think the smart way to deal with a situation like that is to put out the fire, save him from his own consequences of his own action but then, going forward, enact penalties and set tougher rules about smoking in bed.”
Similarly, the head of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. suggested this month it’s not likely aid will be denied to all homeowners who overstated their income or assets to get a mortgage they couldn’t afford.
“I think it’s just simply impractical to try to do a forensic analysis of each and every one of these delinquent loans,” Sheila Bair told National Public Radio.
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OBAMA: “And I believe the nation that invented the automobile cannot walk away from it.”
THE FACTS: Depends what your definition of automobiles, is. According to the Library of Congress, the inventor of the first true automobile was probably Germany’s Karl Benz, who created the first auto powered by an internal combustion gasoline engine, in 1885 or 1886. In the U.S., Charles Duryea tested what library researchers called the first successful gas-powered car in 1893. Nobody disputes that Henry Ford created the first assembly line that made cars affordable.
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OBAMA: “We have known for decades that our survival depends on finding new sources of energy. Yet we import more oil today than ever before.”
THE FACTS: Oil imports peaked in 2005 at just over 5 billion barrels, and have been declining slightly since. The figure in 2007 was 4.9 billion barrels, or about 58 percent of total consumption. The nation is on pace this year to import 4.7 billion barrels, and government projections are for imports to hold steady or decrease a bit over the next two decades.
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OBAMA: “We have already identified $2 trillion in savings over the next decade.”
THE FACTS: Although 10-year projections are common in government, they don’t mean much. And at times, they are a way for a president to pass on the most painful steps to his successor, by putting off big tax increases or spending cuts until someone else is in the White House.
Obama only has a real say on spending during the four years of his term. He may not be president after that and he certainly won’t be 10 years from now.
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OBAMA: “Regulations were gutted for the sake of a quick profit at the expense of a healthy market. People bought homes they knew they couldn’t afford from banks and lenders who pushed those bad loans anyway. And all the while, critical debates and difficult decisions were put off for some other time on some other day.”
THE FACTS: This may be so, but it isn’t only Republicans who pushed for deregulation of the financial industries. The Clinton administration championed an easing of banking regulations, including legislation that ended the barrier between regular banks and Wall Street banks. That led to a deregulation that kept regular banks under tight federal regulation but extended lax regulation of Wall Street banks. Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, later an economic adviser to candidate Obama, was in the forefront in pushing for this deregulation.
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OBAMA: “In this budget, we will end education programs that don’t work and end direct payments to large agribusinesses that don’t need them. We’ll eliminate the no-bid contracts that have wasted billions in Iraq, and reform our defense budget so that we’re not paying for Cold War-era weapons systems we don’t use. We will root out the waste, fraud and abuse in our Medicare program that doesn’t make our seniors any healthier, and we will restore a sense of fairness and balance to our tax code by finally ending the tax breaks for corporations that ship our jobs overseas.”
THE FACTS: First, his budget does not accomplish any of that. It only proposes those steps. That’s all a president can do, because control over spending rests with Congress. Obama’s proposals here are a wish list and some items, including corporate tax increases and cuts in agricultural aid, will be a tough sale in Congress.
Second, waste, fraud and abuse are routinely targeted by presidents who later find that the savings realized seldom amount to significant sums. Programs that a president might consider wasteful have staunch defenders in Congress who have fought off similar efforts in the past.
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OBAMA: “Thanks to our recovery plan, we will double this nation’s supply of renewable energy in the next three years.”
THE FACTS: While the president’s stimulus package includes billions in aid for renewable energy and conservation, his goal is unlikely to be achieved through the recovery plan alone.
In 2007, the U.S. produced 8.4 percent of its electricity from renewable sources, including hydroelectric dams, solar panels and windmills. Under the status quo, the Energy Department says, it will take more than two decades to boost that figure to 12.5 percent.
If Obama is to achieve his much more ambitious goal, Congress would need to mandate it. That is the thrust of an energy bill that is expected to be introduced in coming weeks.
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OBAMA: “Over the next two years, this plan will save or create 3.5 million jobs.”
THE FACTS: This is a recurrent Obama formulation. But job creation projections are uncertain even in stable times, and some of the economists relied on by Obama in making his forecast acknowledge a great deal of uncertainty in their numbers.
The president’s own economists, in a report prepared last month, stated, “It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error.”
Beyond that, it’s unlikely the nation will ever know how many jobs are saved as a result of the stimulus. While it’s clear when jobs are abolished, there’s no economic gauge that tracks job preservation. The estimates are based on economic assumptions of how many jobs would be lost without the stimulus.

Posted by: the mesiah | February 25, 2009, 9:35 am 9:35 am

CHANGE——you’ll be lucky to have any in your pocket after Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Franks are done. That you can believe in.

Posted by: bo | February 25, 2009, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Mr. Obama – I am sick and tired of hearing you tell us WE have to take responsibility. I HAVE!!!! To say you inherited the problem – yes to a point, but it is the government in which you were a part of as a Senator that has caused this mess. Not just Mr. Bush. It is the Democrats and Republicans that run this country that did this. The Democrats had power since 2007. Not the American people who foolishly voted for each and everyone of the people that sit in the house cheering as if they did nothing to create these problems. I pay my bills, I pay for college because we make too much for a student loan and our child can’t get one,(Already $20,000 in debt) I had a Roth that is pretty much gone at this point thanks to the government ran Ponzi scheme. I will have to work forever. Unlike our government workers that have the glorious life to not pay taxes, take elaborate vacations, health insurance for life. This US government which you were part of and still are ruined this great country. Not the American people that you are asking to fix it. Washington broke it – not us. It is time for government to take responsibility.

Posted by: emw511 | February 25, 2009, 9:36 am 9:36 am

Jindal could be a good Simpson’s character. And he should know better. Doing the opposition response to the SotU is the Bermuda Triangle of national politics.
“This man will never be my President.”
Well, you feel free to live in denial, because he *is* your President.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 9:37 am 9:37 am

“Mr. Obama – I am sick and tired of hearing you tell us WE have to take responsibility. I HAVE!!!!”
Good for you. Plenty of people still haven’t.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Our President kicked A last night. Repubs are loading their pork into the budget as we speak. What hypocracy! Why don’t you ignorant losers just keep jacking off to Winking Bible Spice.

Posted by: 33Greeper | February 25, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am

I listened to him speak about his plans to educate our children, that’s great! BUT, what about the adults that need education? I struggle to take care of my children and pay my student loans. How can this help those of us trying so hard now? So many of us are in default. Student loans are the only thing that cannot be on a bankruptcy. I am putting tickets on a bankruptcy, but student loans have to be paid. That is so stupid. When you have to choose between feeding your children, and student loans, you know we have reached a sad state. We need more changes. How can the president not see that this is a problem? The president and his wife just paid off their student loans. What about all of us that have been laid off. How can we pay? Or those of us who are paying for an education we don’t utilize and now need more education? We say that education is power. Well, we need help to get it. Education is a business. That’s where we need immediate reform. How will these new jobs matter if no one is trained to do them? This needs to be rethought.

Posted by: immichalus | February 25, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Man Angie >>>>> WOW get a clue. Businesses close, thats a recession.
The economy is shrinking why? ASK WHY?
So you spend a Trillion how does that help? Man I tell you some folks just cant ADD.. This is Bushes fault? NOPE. Clinton pushing bad loans down the throats of banks. Thats what started this mess. Is there more blame? YES. Barney Franks for calling folks racist when they said Freddie and Fannie was found to be over leveraged.
There were lots of dumb republican things done as well but since you want to hang everything on one side.. I will just remind you its NOT that way.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | February 25, 2009, 9:39 am 9:39 am

I love the way Billy Bob trashes the President. This is why our country is in the mess it’s in today…people like you.
It’s not his fault that a lot of people overspent, that Bush let his rich friends on Wall Street have their way. He DID inherit a mess…..
No matter what I or Angie say you and people like you are like broken records. You have no clue and no solution. Like the Republicans who went against Pres. Obama but are licking their chops at the money they will get!!!!! They ruined our country and now are bashing him. And Jindel or whatever his name is is a jerk!

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 9:40 am 9:40 am

We impeached the last presidential democrat who lied to the American people. With barry’s extensive experience in the field of lying, I am sure he will eventually be exposed just as clinton was.
The liberal media can only protect him for so long.

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 9:40 am 9:40 am

>>>>>>It was worth more than electing the guy who completely ruined our great nation>>>BUSHIE! ?:>>>> You still breathing? Well thanks President BUSH.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | February 25, 2009, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Hey that’s great. Jindel would make a good Simpson’s character! They should write him into the script!!

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Republican leaders see economic recovery as being able to go back to doing things the way we were doing them back when the DOW was at 14,000. President Obama sees it as getting back up on our feet and then heading off in a more sustainable direction. I really don’t think we can keep doing business the way we’ve been doing it the last 10 years. I know it made quite a few people very rich, but a lot of it turned out to be smoke and mirrors and that weakened the nation. However, I doubt that many Americans have the patience it will take to redirect our economy towards more sustainable growth. Americans don’t like to wait–they don’t like to wait for recovery, and they don’t like to wait for their payoffs either.

Posted by: Hil | February 25, 2009, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Bo
The Democrat Congress as Of yesterday Has an Approval Rating of 50 Percent. People look at it like this We tried the Republicans way and not to many are Happy with the Results, Lets try the Other Party, If it Doesnt work then Republicans Will Gain Power again. But Lets be Patient with Obama and The Dems and stop assuming

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Billy Bob
Please do not tell me What working is. I work 2 Jobs! And yes Business is what drives the Economy, But look around The Private Sector is Falling Collapsing. What are we suppose to do Nothing? Now I am no fan Of big Goverment. But this is No ordinary Recession.Businesses are closing Left and Right The Banks Have To Start Loaning again so Business can stay in Business
Posted by: Angie in PA | Feb 25, 2009 9:31:41 AM
I was referring to what is working for the economy. The rest of the post we are in agreement on except you think Obama is making the right moves to help the economy and I as a business owner think he is making all of the wrong moves. In facy i strongly believe he is making matters much worse than if he did nothing at all.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Chicago Bob
And Bush SPENDING BILLIONS AND BILLONS OF MONEY In Two Wars has nothing to do with the Deficit please wake up!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:45 am 9:45 am

They ruined our country and now are bashing him. And Jindel or whatever his name is is a jerk! >>>>> This is something you bought into. Its NOT true but its what you believe. I can tell.
No changing your mind but its truely not the case. Much went right and much went wrong in the last 8 years.
Why is Jindel a jerk for believing what he believes? OH Yeah cause his name isnt Obama? Obama has lied since he came to office but you want to be lied too so you must have loved Clinton as well. Good liars have fans.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | February 25, 2009, 9:45 am 9:45 am

Good Posts!
The honeymoon is over. The lights have been turned off and the big tent has been taken down. Now reality sets in and Obama can make all of the great speeches he want’s but now action speaks a lot louder then retoric and Obama is not cutting it. My only question is, how long is it going to be before the MSM turns on him? When it happens it will be with a vengence.
Posted by: billy bob
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How can more of the same possibly help any of us? >>>>>> What I like to know is the Press and commentators that stupid? How is it they sit there in total amazement when its obvious that we are getting recycled plans that did no good in the 30′s 70′s and 80′s. The people hooked on the government welfare were destroyed. It destroyed their work ethic, their belief in themselves. It created a totally dependent subculture that too decades to correct.
And if he talked about HOPE when he first started talking about the economy then I would say OK its a mixed message of reality and calm. To come from CRISIS… to Hope.. It sounds disingenuous now.
Posted by: ChicagBob
I did not watch the speech lastnight…too much blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: Michelle | February 25, 2009, 9:48 am 9:48 am

Billy Bob
What are your Suggestions What do you purpose He do? NOTHING! It may not be all Right in what hes doing, It may not all work No One has a Crystal ball But give him credit he is Trying

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:49 am 9:49 am

I have two raspberries to pass out: One for ABC who has not made a video of the Presdient’s speech avaiable. (I had to go to CNN.) The second raspberry is for the President who promised that the country that invented the automobile would have an auto industry that would prevail. (Wikipedia credits German Karl Benz for that invention.) America did not invent the automobile; Henry Ford invented the assembly line.

Posted by: warrottjr | February 25, 2009, 9:49 am 9:49 am

And Bush SPENDING BILLIONS AND BILLONS OF MONEY In Two Wars has nothing to do with the Deficit please wake up!
>>>>> And OBAMA spending a 800 BILLION was a mature thing to do? Dont be fooled.
Obama also BACKED TARP. Thats another 800 BILLION. Democrats never saw spending they didnt want to do. Its irresponsible. ONLY childdren expect whine UNTIL THE get a YES. Adults have to be grown up enough to say NO.
Obama is just keeping the CHILDREN happy by giving them candy. The only problem is he is STEALING the money to do it. You want me to justfiy BUSH? You justify the tax increases that will come to pay for this crazy spending.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | February 25, 2009, 9:50 am 9:50 am

I am not buying it because it makes zero sense. Would a financial adviser tell a family who had been living on borrowed money and was now in financial crisis that the way to solve their problem was simply to borrow more money? No, and for all his hype, Obama makes no sense either.

Posted by: brian | February 25, 2009, 9:51 am 9:51 am

I don’t feel very united today. This guy is in way over his head. He can deliver a good speech but so far everything he has done has made my 401k drop even more than under the idiot Bush.

Posted by: BO is a socialist | February 25, 2009, 9:52 am 9:52 am

bobj72–in the speech the other day, Obama said the words “crisis” over 20+ times to get the stimulus package thru. That is “preaching fear” in it’s purest form. Obama is following the Bush playbook page by page. Even former president Clinton said for him to stop all the negative rhetoric. I agree with you that small business will not be taxed at a higher rate, but they didn’t get a break either. EXplain to me how a small business can excel when for ex: an employer brings in $100.00 dollars in revenue. That revenue is split 50/50 but the employer/employee, but the employer has to spend their 50% on payroll tax, local and state taxes, rent, water,heat and power. they make about $10.00 on every $100.00 brought in. How can a small business grow and hire new people making only $10.00 MAx on $100.00 dollars of revenue?

Posted by: brian Burkart | February 25, 2009, 9:52 am 9:52 am

Too bad the president didn’t speak of the need for swift justice for the WAR CRIMINALS of the Bush Administration.

Posted by: 33Greeper | February 25, 2009, 9:53 am 9:53 am

Jindal is not a Jerk He feels strongly about his Principles and his Party, But what the Republicans fail to Realize is the Country and the People are Changing. Jindal is too far right, People want MODERATE!Not to Many Americans out there are Happy with the Same old Policies of the GOP, They need to appeal to ALL People and not Just 30 Percent of the Country their Base!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 9:53 am 9:53 am

BELIEVE THIS——OBAMA AND HIS PINHEAD IVY LEAGUE people have no clue and do not “GET IT” as Obama claims. The idiots do not understand that people are out of work and all their feeding the friends of the democrats is not and will not put people back to work anything soon. AMERICA is hopeless with PINHEADS in charge!!!!! GOD help us and these loons will not.

Posted by: rockychance | February 25, 2009, 9:53 am 9:53 am

I love it when people say they did not listen to his speech…then don’t complain.
And I do not like Jindal…sorry…he is way too far right and right now we need him and everyone else to stand behind the President and try and straigthen this country out instead of the same old same old.

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Anyone actually believe there wont be taxes on everything from gas, food,
clothes etc. And we will ALL pay to try and pay for the insane multi trillion dollar debt we are buying. WHO made these bad loans that forces us to bail out banks? OH YEAH CLINTON a DEMOCRAT
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9c0de7db153ef933a0575ac0a96f958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

Posted by: ChicagoBob | February 25, 2009, 9:56 am 9:56 am

“I don’t feel very united today. This guy is in way over his head. He can deliver a good speech but so far everything he has done has made my 401k drop even more than under the idiot Bush.”
lol. You must be joking.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Angie why did you say Jindal is not a jerk? In a previous post you said he gave an awful speech and spoke like he was speaking to five year olds??
that’s why I said he’s a jerk..

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Angie in PA OK you asked. They shot down the fix housing first part of the bill that gave ANY new homeowner a $15000 tax credit for purchasing a new home. WHY???? That would have gotten millions of people off the fence. What about going to a flat tax???? Where is the stimilus for the small business??? Obama plans to raise taxes for anyone who makes over $250,000. Guess what, that is most small business owners. What kind of stimilus plan is that???

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 9:58 am 9:58 am

“Obama said the words “crisis” over 20+ times to get the stimulus package thru. That is “preaching fear”"
No, that’s speaking truth. We are in a crisis, and he and his advisors believe that things have the potential to get significantly worse if aggressive action isn’t implemented. Now that he has gotten it passed, he can start trying to get people feeling positive again. Try to use his oratory skills to inject as much confidence into peopel and the market as possible. What’s the issue?

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Barb
Thats the Thing when you ask the People on Board who are Bashing him what do you Purpose He do, If he did Nothing they would Complain, Hes trying They complain, and not one of them can offer Suggestions on what should he do.Maybe If Bush was A President and Actually cared about this country and not Just IRAQ AND OIL,And payed more attention to America, we might not be in this mess!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Hey Rich….you bet voting for Obama was worth it! All you old timers (backward thinkers) who put Bush in office won’t be paying the real price of that terrible choice, we will. I’m 50, do you think that I’m ever going to see the retirement that your generation have enjoyed from the Clinton years, hell no! We’re all going to be working till our 70′s instead of touring the country in RV’s. We have Bush and his backers to thank for this. Gee Rich, do you have any children and grandchildren? Let me thank you for them for screwing the coming generations out of our retirements.

Posted by: mom | February 25, 2009, 10:01 am 10:01 am

I sat there last night and watched this guy Obama make all so many promises and I know that not one of them will be kept. When he was a community organizer in Chicago I bet he told the masses the same old BS, he was going to do this and he was going to do that. Is the black community any better today in Chicago than it was back when Obama was a community organizer? I doubt it. The most important issue is you have to deliver but you have to deliver realistic goals. This guy does not get it. When he was saying how they were going to take the subsidies away from the farmer to meet his budget demands guess whats going to happen. The price of food is going to go up considerably. This is the part that you have to re think what this guy and his cabinet are thinking. No thought, keep throwing stuff against the wall and maybe something will stick. We are in for one hell of a mess.

Posted by: Oldrtoy | February 25, 2009, 10:01 am 10:01 am

“Angie why did you say Jindal is not a jerk? In a previous post you said he gave an awful speech and spoke like he was speaking to five year olds??
that’s why I said he’s a jerk..”
Many of Republican voters who aren’t the elite wealthy have the intellect of 5 year olds. He was talking to them. He also has to sell himself to the good ol’ boy faction of the Republican party who were sitting in front of the tv saying, “I’m not voting for that #####!”

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 10:01 am 10:01 am

mom 50 years old, and still have not learned anything. Amazing

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 10:04 am 10:04 am

Billy Bob
They did not Eliminate The Tax credit For first time Home Buyers,And if you read the Bill you will see there are alot of Tax credits For Small Business as far as The 250,000 That is not GROSS BUT NET You have to NET THAT!I Dont Know of any SMALL Business Owners who NET 250,000 A year

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:04 am 10:04 am

I received $600 from the Bush stimulus which was about $23/paycheck. It’s my understanding that Mrs. Obama said this about that stimulus: “You’re getting $600. What can you do with that? Not to be ungrateful or anything. But maybe it pays down a bill, but it doesn’t pay down every bill every month..Barack’s approach is that the short-term quick fix kinda stuff sounds good. And it may even feel good that first month when you get that check. And then you go out and you buy a pair of earrings.” Now I’m going to get approximately $13/paycheck from BO. What does she have to say now. No, he didn’t sell me at all with his speech that someone else wrote.

Posted by: Fiveftfury | February 25, 2009, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Obama did what he said he was going to do for an entire year before he got elected, and that was help to solve our national crisis, I dont recall him ever promising that he was going to beg and plead on one knee for a bunch of aging, senial, republicans to see it his way, he took charge and got it done, and that is why he sleeps in the white house and not John Mccain. We have a leader now not a donkey.

Posted by: ryan | February 25, 2009, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Oh no, even though Obama delivered a good speech last night, the DOW is going down again.
I think any president who thinks its a ‘great’ idea to spend your way out of a recession is proving to be the wrong choice.

Posted by: Louisa | February 25, 2009, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Barb
Just because Jindal is Boring and Doesnt Know how to Give a Speech Does not Make him a Jerk but you Know what Does make him a Jerk refusing Unemployment Money for the People of LA,Because he cant get out of the far right Lane therfore the People can suffer and Thats why BILLY BOB He will not be President

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am

The President’s speech was both inspirational and sound. I applaud the direction our Country is heading under the leadership of President Obama. I admire his integrity and values. Finally we have a leader who’s looking beyond just the four years of office. President Obama is doing a great job of drafting legislation to address the Country’s short term problems without sacrificing our future.

Posted by: Mark S | February 25, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am

President Obama has shown more leadership in the last month than Bush has the last year or his last term.

Posted by: phoenix | February 25, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Angie, that’s exactly how I feel. We finally have a President with a brain and no one has a better suggestion than to bash him. That’s why I don’t like Jindal…he and his fellow republicans are happy to go against our President but are also happy to take his stimulus money…It’s a joke. They had 8 years and look where we are…At least give this man a chance. We gave Bush a chance for eight years although I can’t understand why…after the first four he should have been gone.

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 10:09 am 10:09 am

what a beautiful day the birds are singing the dow started out down a 100.

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Fresh off his barnburner of a speech to the Congress last night–what’s not to love in an address that had a whopping 85 percent of listeners feeling “more optimistic” after hearing it?–I sure am!! President Barack Obama is poinsed to become a truly great president. Pray for him and success for our great country.

Posted by: 33Greeper | February 25, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am

AWESOME SPEECH!!!!!!!! Those who keep churning out all of this negative doom and gloom rhetoric will be left behind as those who want to move forward will transcend those hanging on to dis-unity and divisiveness. OPEN YOUR MIND and start looking for ways to help this country instead of complaining. OBAMA GET ITS!!!

Posted by: amber | February 25, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Angie in PA Yes they kept the $8000 tax credit gor first time home buyers. Its better than nothing but barely. Most sucessful small businesses NET over $250,000k. Obama is now forcing the people who drive the economy to pay for all of his grand plans. OH YEA, he did mention somthing about re-distributing the wealth when he ran for president. Why should I be suprised, silly me.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Jindal is too far right, People want MODERATE!
________
yes, people want a moderate. which is why Obama (well actually more pelosi, reid, franks and gang) are wrong for us right now. they are so far to the left that a conservative just cannot relate to them and will probably never agree with their policies.
I am starting to think Clinton could have done a much better job of bringing the country together.

Posted by: Louisa | February 25, 2009, 10:12 am 10:12 am

I hate to burst the Bush hater’s bubble, but the 110th Congress, both the House and the Senate, under President Bush was controlled by the Democrats. If my understanding of how things work is correct, the spending bills, the war, etc all go through Congress before being presented to the President for signing. If Congress does not approve a bill, it’s dead. If Congress approves a bill and the President signs it, it goes into effect. If Congress approves a bill and the President Veto’s it, then there are measures available to override the veto. So with that said, any of the conditions of the country that the Bush haters blame on President Bush would have had to be approved first by the Congress which is a majority of Democrats, including Obama, assuming he was actually available to vote and not out campaigning. So the current state of the nation, the outrageous bailout plains and the fact we still have troops in Iraq are as much the fault of the Democrats as it is the Republicans and President Bush.
The only way this country will ever recover is to oust all of the lawyers, professional politicians and rich folk out of the Legislative Branch of the government and replace it by common folk to make it a Government of the People, by the People…

Posted by: timefuze | February 25, 2009, 10:12 am 10:12 am

Barb
30 Percent of the People are against President Obama,Thats not alot of People But what Kills me those 30 Percent still think Bush did a great Job, Laughable Like I said If Bush were A president and cared and Payed more Attention To this country and not Wars and Oil, And didnt SPEND ALL OF OUR MONEY TO FUND THOSE WARS AND BUY THAT OIL We would not be in this mess. and these 30 Percent of People want to Blame President Obama now thats LAUGHABLE!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:13 am 10:13 am

amber: do you have a 401k?

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 10:13 am 10:13 am

Our prosperity and international standing has gone up in flames over the last eight years, and it seems like the Republicans are toasting marshmallows over it.
We are about to lose our automotive industry, we have lost billions to fraud in rebuilding Iraq, our banking sector is tettering on the brink, and Republicans are milking the situation for the sake of “rebranding” themselves as fiscal conservatives (after getting us into this mess in the first place.)
Obama isn’t perfect, and yes, I see through the showmanship, but give him points for DOING something, and at least TRYING to make us look competent to the rest of the world.
Posted by: Amy
______________________________
Of course you didn’t mention that YOUR party controlled Congress for the last two years of the Bush administration with good old boy Barney Frank and Chris Dodd controlling Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which were the direct cause of the recession. As I also recall, it was Clinton who first administered home loans to those who hardly qualified for them.
And what is Obama’s answer to every problem? More government spending which is like giving a new brand of alcohol to an alcoholic in order to make him sober.
Clinton was asked one time if he could name a country that has taxed and spent its way back into prosperity. Clinton did not have an answer. I doubt if Obama will either.

Posted by: marco | February 25, 2009, 10:13 am 10:13 am

“what a beautiful day the birds are singing the dow started out down a 100.”
Stop measuring Obama’s effectiveness as a leader by the Dow. It makes you look like a fool. The performance of the Dow has very little to do with him and your continuous doom and gloom attitude doesn’t do anybody any good. He’s not killing people with his paranoia like the last guy…he’s taking aggressive measures to try to fix the mess this country is in, at the advice of his very qualified economic advisory team.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 10:17 am 10:17 am

In times of crisis people are far too willing to surrender their lives and problems and let someone else (in most cases government) manage them. It happened in 19th-century France, it happened in what became the Soviet Union at the start of the 20th century, and it happened to Germany in the 1930s. Had it not been for the conservative faction it could well have happened to the United States during the Depression. With government money always comes government strings, and once on that slippery slope it’s not easy (if even possible) to turn back. Before I applaud any vague proposals to sell any more control of this country to the government, regardless of how charismatic a leader may be, I’ll remember the past and to evaluate just what I’m giving up for promises of security.

Posted by: Publius | February 25, 2009, 10:17 am 10:17 am

Billy Bob
What small Business owners Net 250,000 I have a Friend that owns a Deli, She does not Net 250,000 After her Expenses and Please stop with the Fox news Spread the Wealth, President Obama never said that, Fox News Edited that Video of Obama and Joe the Plumber and Made it look like Obama said that, do you Know of any Plumbers who NET 250,000 A year? if you do they must be Expenseive For their Services

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:17 am 10:17 am

Angie, yes some of these people really are laughable but you know part of the reason we are in this mess? them! They voted for Bush twice. I don’t understand the mentality. I guess if Donald Duck were a Republican they would vote for him. I am a Democrat BUT I always look at all the candidates and vote accordingly….Most of the time I do vote Democrat but if the Republican is a better candidate I go with them. We can’t have these people with blinders on. And when I see posts that say they didn’t listen to his speech, it’s all blah, blah, blah, like Michelle posted, how do you know it’s all blah, blah, blah? That’s just sheer ignorance.
Wait and see in a year we will be on the road to recovery. And people also don’t understand is what took 8 years to create is not going to be fixed overnight.

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 10:18 am 10:18 am

When will people realize ALL politicians are the same regardless of party. It took both parties to get us in this mess and it will take both to get us out. The president is right that the time for partisan politics is over, so step up to the plate for the sake of ALL Americans.
No, I did not vote for him but, he is my president and I want him to succeed, don’t you? I am a registered Independent, as the party faithful mentality left me long ago.
You Republicans are reaping what you have sown in the last 8 years so, take a seat and try not to be too obstructionist. Gov. Jindle made the mea culpa to the American public for his parties mistakes of the last 8 years, it might take 8 more to restore that confidence. He is not ready for Washington in my opinion and his speech last made that clear.
Finally, I would like everyone to talk to their family elders about what they have gone through over the years. You may be surprised to find out you are much better off than they were back then. You are not ENTITLED to prosperity your whole life, because you live in American, get over it.

Posted by: vnvet69 | February 25, 2009, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Silky: that’s right, Obama doesn’t control the Dow…I really wonder what is in the minds of some of these people

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Barb
30 Percent of the People are against President Obama,Thats not alot of People But what Kills me those 30 Percent still think Bush did a great Job, Laughable Like I said If Bush were A president and cared and Payed more Attention To this country and not Wars and Oil, And didnt SPEND ALL OF OUR MONEY TO FUND THOSE WARS AND BUY THAT OIL We would not be in this mess. and these 30 Percent of People want to Blame President Obama now thats LAUGHABLE!
Posted by: Angie in PA | Feb 25, 2009 10:13:26 AM
OH, you have a problem with OIL??? One question, do you have a car and do you put gasoline in it????

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Barb
I agree President Obama has only Been President for 30 Something days and he is Being Judged Little Immature dont you think? But then again they did vote for Bush twice see where Im going with this!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:21 am 10:21 am

“Of course you didn’t mention that YOUR party controlled Congress for the last two years of the Bush administration with good old boy Barney Frank and Chris Dodd controlling Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac which were the direct cause of the recession.”
LOL. Yeah, that’s it.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Silky: Also yes he is asking for advice and has smart people to ask..he is also asking people to email him with suggestions.
Can you imagine Bush doing this? Not!
Pres. Obama is a good man and he is involving people in fixing our economy.
How some people can be so negative I don’t know. You are so right.

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Lousia
President Obama is Not Far left he is a Moderate

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Why doesn’t the president put an end to the speculation and just tell the Hawaiian Public Records to release an actual copy of his original birth certificate? Why is he spending so much money trying to block the release?

Posted by: Terry | February 25, 2009, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Obama says he’s going to send me $13/wk. starting April 1st. He says he’s not going to leave a big debt for my children. He’s going to jump start the economy. He says healthcare and education are in the bag and we’re going to end war. What more could anyone want? We don’t even have to pay attention anymore. He’s got it all under control. Oh happy day!

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | February 25, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am

billy bob is a poser. He is really Sean the Manatee

Posted by: 33Greeper | February 25, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am

“I think any president who thinks its a ‘great’ idea to spend your way out of a recession is proving to be the wrong choice.”
Actually, most economists agree a government CAN get a country out of a recession with a large enough and well timed stimulus package. It worked for Japan when they were in a recession, except that as their economy recovered the government decided it was more important to pay off its debts – too soon!- the economy tanked again and struggled for another ten years. A few years ago The Netherlands went through a huge banking crisis, much like our own. The government bought the debt, supported the banks, and, eventually the tax payers actually made a profit because the plan worked! We are not flying totally blind here, history is showing us the way out of this crisis.

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Angie in PA I know of several plumbers that net over $250,000 per year, although we refer to them as mechanical contractors (commercial work). You have no idea of what you are talking about. Just exactly how did fox edit obama telling Joe the plumber he was going to re-distribute the wealth??? I cannot wait for that anwser.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Yup I understand where you are going with this Angie…AND they are still harping on his birth Certificate…same ones who voted twice for Bush…Need I say more?
:–)

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 10:24 am 10:24 am

BO ‘s policies directly effect the direction of the DOW. If he is going to nationalize the banks, bank stock plummet. If he is going to bail out GM it directly effects gm stocks. this is fact like it or not.

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 10:24 am 10:24 am

monroe, it was a speech to boost moral. When was the last time anything of substance was mandated in the State of the Union. I mean, since Bush used it to lie to us about Iraq.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 10:24 am 10:24 am

Billy Bob
Yes I have a car and I use Gasoline, But I do have a problem With going to War for OIL, And Bush getting Kickbacks from the Saudis for Buying oil stocks yes Billy Bob I have a Big Problem Bush got Kickbacks and Made Profits off the war and Oil!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Angie in PA – Can you please tell me exactly what we were supposed to do after 9/11 – invite the terrorists over for tea? I would rather have a deficit due to defending this country than bailing everybody out in this country who made bad decisions. Nothing was done by Clinton after the first World Trade Center Attack, the attack on the Cole, etc., which just emboldened al Quada to strike on 9/11. If you don’t confront evil and appease it you are asking for trouble. Do you remember Adolf Hitler? Also, I would like to know how you would go about your daily business without oil? Alternative energy (to fully run this country) is so far down the pike it probably won’t happen in our lifetime. Republicans don’t want or like war, but do realize that evil exists in our world and we have to defend ourselves against it or we make ourselves a target. Ought not take your freedom for granted, because it is definitely not free.

Posted by: Laurie | February 25, 2009, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Stop measuring Obama’s effectiveness as a leader by the Dow
____________________________
Silky – Just who do you think is going to be funding the messiah’s grand old spending spree???? The DOW is a great indicator as to confidence in the business world.
But you keep telling yourself that its not true !!!!

Posted by: Louisa | February 25, 2009, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Hi Ed,
Now really, would you expect anything different from the Republicans?
In response to Obama dynamic and forward looking speech they trotted out Gov.Jendal who had nothing to do with the last eight years to make their case.
It failed miserably. While he is an attractive spokesperson he and they are on the wrong side of the issues again. What I thought was particular of interest was their attempt at revision history.
Jendal is being primed to be the next Republican Presidential Candidate and while he may not have any attachments to the failed Bush years he will fail to win because the Republicans Agenda is a failure.
I found the setting for the President’s speech to be very interesting, an address in front of both Houses of Congress and not being a state of the union but a state of our economy address.
From a delivery standpoint he knocked it out of the park. No more doom and gloom and while we may be in deep stuff, we can and will come out of it better, wiser and stronger.
I concur with the President that when the American people make up their minds to do something they do it and nothing stops them until the deed is done.
God bless America and God bless our leaders.
Charles
“Spiritual truth is learned by atmosphere, not by intellectual reasoning. God’s Spirit alters the atmosphere of our way of looking at things, and things begin to be possible which never were possible before.”
Chambers.

Posted by: Aracoma | February 25, 2009, 10:26 am 10:26 am

Is it me, or has the President made more television appearances than any modern day President. Why not just have the President have a weekly tv appearance. I “get it”, when it is good he’ll be on tv. When it is bad he will be on tv and try to spin the situation.

Posted by: R Garcia | February 25, 2009, 10:27 am 10:27 am

stock market is tanking. All the people who really understand investment and business are selling. Obama is getting an ” F”.

Posted by: brian | February 25, 2009, 10:28 am 10:28 am

“Angie in PA – Can you please tell me exactly what we were supposed to do after 9/11 – invite the terrorists over for tea?”
No, go into Afghanistan. Which we did, to the universal applause of all Americans. Iraq is an entirely different thing. And the fact that there are those who still don’t get that is mind-boggling to me.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Why doesn’t the president put an end to the speculation and just tell the Hawaiian Public Records to release an actual copy of his original birth certificate? Why is he spending so much money trying to block the release?
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There is only speculation among the ignorant wingnut class.

Posted by: 33Greeper | February 25, 2009, 10:28 am 10:28 am

Laurie: Pres. Clinton most certainly did do something about the first attack on the WTC. Those crazies are behind bars for life….The caught them and they had a trial, it was all over the papers, and they are in jail.
And do just go after Iraq when they had nothing to do with 9/11 was senseless.

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 10:30 am 10:30 am

For those of you who don’t know who George Soros is, get ready to live by his ideals, that obama supports and is committed to.
Do some homework “Google” the name
George Soros

Posted by: Paid my dues | February 25, 2009, 10:30 am 10:30 am

What is heaven’s name do you obama haters wants him to do? Nothing? He is trying to do something to stimulate the economy..yet you criticize him..what is the hell do you want him to do..All you Republicans can do is criticize, criticize..Bush left us in a pool of dog mess and you obama critics think that is okay! Let me give you a fact..No Republican president has ever left our country with a surplus..three Democrat presidents have including Bill Clinton..doesn’t that tell you something about the Republican economic policies? I believe if Obama is given a fair chances to lead and implement his policies..he would balance the the budget too and leave us with a surplus at the end of his tenure. I am sick of you Republicans who criticize what Obama is trying to do to turn things around yet you do not have plausable advice on how to turn things around..you criticize but give no solution of your own..you know why? because you don’t have any..I think America has and is “wising” up to the Republican crap and their voodoo economics foolishness about trickle down economics. Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans..I am not even a Democrat but I have read enough and have enough sense to know that the Democratic party is the better of the two evils..God bless president Barack Obama and God bless America!

Posted by: Stanley | February 25, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am

What is heaven’s name do you obama haters wants him to do? Nothing? He is trying to do something to stimulate the economy..yet you criticize him..what is the hell do you want him to do..All you Republicans can do is criticize, criticize..Bush left us in a pool of dog mess and you obama critics think that is okay! Let me give you a fact..No Republican president has ever left our country with a surplus..three Democrat presidents have including Bill Clinton..doesn’t that tell you something about the Republican economic policies? I believe if Obama is given a fair chances to lead and implement his policies..he would balance the the budget too and leave us with a surplus at the end of his tenure. I am sick of you Republicans who criticize what Obama is trying to do to turn things around yet you do not have plausable advice on how to turn things around..you criticize but give no solution of your own..you know why? because you don’t have any..I think America has and is “wising” up to the Republican crap and their voodoo economics foolishness about trickle down economics. Heaven help us all and save us from the Republicans..I am not even a Democrat but I have read enough and have enough sense to know that the Democratic party is the better of the two evils..God bless president Barack Obama and God bless America!

Posted by: Stanley | February 25, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am

BARB
They really dont know how Dumb they sound with the Birth Cert thing They sound like Immature children
BILLY BOB
Fox News Picked apart that tape put it together Their way to Make Obama sound like a socialist!And no Billy Bob SMALL BUSINESS NOT CORPORATE DO NOT NET 250,000 A YEAR you do Know what NET MEANS

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:32 am 10:32 am

The Constitution was wrote to protect us from the Government. President Obama and the Democrats want the government in our lives from education, health care, mortgages, financing and so on…Too much government in our lives. We the people need to govern ourselves.

Posted by: R Garcia | February 25, 2009, 10:32 am 10:32 am

LAURIE
Dear Iraq had NOTHING I repeat NOTHING TO DO WITH 911

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Barb….If more people would vote that way we would not be in the mess we are in. The people that voted for Bush are hypocrites,,,,we are spending to much…who created this spending mess…Bush never vetoed a spending bill
113 trillion dollar deficit after receiving a surplus. This is conservatism????
Is that the best they could do to rebut….Jendal///// McCaain reminded me of a defeated dog with a tail between his legs.. Jendal??? I think Palin would have done a better job on the rebutal

Posted by: BSKI | February 25, 2009, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Barb
Poor things they still are Intoxicated on the Bush Kool-aid so to speak Blaming Iraq for 911 HAHAHAH Too funny

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:35 am 10:35 am

How refreshing to have a president who is intelligent and articulate. We no longer have to be embarrassed when our president opens his mouth. Yes, he gets it…far more than the Cro-Magnon reactionary right.

Posted by: dano | February 25, 2009, 10:37 am 10:37 am

marco
Get your facts straight. This recession was not caused by Freddie and Fannie loaning money to unqualified buyers. That is simply not true. F and F did get into trouble when they followed the industry trend of buying derivatives (paying too much for bad loans bundled with good.) Blaming poor people has become the rightwing’s latest favorite smear job. It fits people’s prejudice, so they think its true.
Do you remember all those commercials urging home owners to refinance their homes, to get money to go on vacations, add on an extra bathroom, pay down credit cards? Do you remember when you couldn’t buy a two bedroom ranch house for less than 200,000? Do you remember when your neighbors were ruining neighbors by building McMansions? Do you think THAT might have had something to do with the housing bubble that triggered the recession when it popped?

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 10:37 am 10:37 am

If the Republicans think Steele and Jindal are gonna Bring their Party Back hahahahahah Well Folks Look Forward to the Democrats being around for a Long While

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:38 am 10:38 am

I can tell you the stock market was not happy with his speach last night. It is tanking again. It does everyone talks. Stop talking and do something. This stimulous package is doing nothing!

Posted by: Frustrated | February 25, 2009, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Jindal is that the best they have???
That is the rising star for the Republicans….heavens forbid

Posted by: BSKI | February 25, 2009, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Do you remember when your neighbors were ruining the neighborhood by building McMansions?

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Frustrated
The stock Market is Not reacting Because President Obama did not stand up There and Say he is going to BAIL WALL ST OUT And Fund the Banks with Money thats why

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Every time President O opens his mouth, the market starts to tank! What do you think of that you bunch of liberal Kool Aid drinkers. I tell you what, wipe that kool aid mustache off your faces and get to work…

Posted by: R Garcia | February 25, 2009, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Silky–the stock market is letting the congress and president know what they think. And more than half of investors of ordinary workers like you and me. Obama is creating class warfare and I’m not rich or poor. Just middle-class who fears the Obama Admin. is going to have me working myself to the lower class. Just what my college education was looking for!

Posted by: brian Burkart | February 25, 2009, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Obama spoke again last night, and the market dove this morning. Am I the only noticing this trend? He does not get it. We ALL want to fix healthcare, education and power but not by spending TRILLIONS WE DON’T HAVE. People spending behind their means and institutions (government and banks) enabling them created this mess. We are where we are because people spent money they did not have. That is exactly what this clown proposes. He brags about pay as you go, but then shoves a trillion in debt down our throats. And I am getting really tired about him pointing the finger at Bush. Was he not part of congress for the last few years? Didn’t congress approve Bush’s budgets (republicans AND democrats). He talks about personal responsibility and accountability, but will not acknowledge that he was part of the group (congress/government) that got us where we are. I lose more and more respect for this clown every day that goes by.

Posted by: USA-NC-)* | February 25, 2009, 10:42 am 10:42 am

There is a precept offered by several highly successful (Honest & Ethical) Senior Executives in Corporate America who said; “CHANGE without doubt, Creates OPPORTUNITY. The Major Difference between “The Winners” and “The Losers” in ANY ENDEAVOR is their Desire and Ability To Effectively ADAPT TO CHANGE.”
It would be safe to say, “We could all benefit, by sharpening our desire and ability to “carry this out!”

Posted by: bobj72 | February 25, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Liberal! Kool-Aid! Nobama! Messiah! Birth Certificate! POOOORK!!!!!

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Okay maybe this was just my wife and I, but did anyone else think that Jindal sounded like Mr. Rogers?

Posted by: Ordermonger | February 25, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am

USANC
What do you purpose he do? Any Suggestions?

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Was Sen BONER…the minority leader there????

Posted by: BSKI | February 25, 2009, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Angie,
Dear, when you finally address the fact that there are groups and leaders of countries that want you dead and are secretly attempting to build nukes that they can pass off to groups like al Quada you address them as well, not just the people who actually carried out 9/11. Al Quada is not located in 1 country and your own Senators and Congressmen stated that there was a link between Sadaam and al Quada before they voted for the Iraq war. I suppose you would have voted to wait until after he gave the nuke to someone and they managed to attack us again before you went after them. You people are so naive – KUMBAYA!

Posted by: Laurie | February 25, 2009, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Angie: That’s right, Obama did not say he will bail out Wall Street, in fact he did say he wanted bonuses stopped and the huge salaries….that’s why it’s tanking…
give it a chance and it will come back and things will be more reasonable.
Finally a President who will stand up to these Ceo’s and people who are making millions and millions…it’s not right….they want bail out money and their millions. About time we had someone with some sense in office.

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Silky
Those are Rush Limbaugh words the Parrots are out!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Barb
That is why the Market is Not Responding no more Corporate welfare!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am

I will forever remember this speech as the “Throw Money” speech of 2009!

Posted by: southern_conservative | February 25, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Oh and the market is down because house sells fell 5.3 percent in January, making Obama’s mortgage plan all that much more relevant to stop the sliding depreciation of homes in the US and to help free up credit. Oh and I doubt that bankers like Obama’s responsibility talk but the American people should. Over the long term we will be stronger for it.

Posted by: Ordermonger | February 25, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am

I want to thank Obama for removing a good portion of my 401K. Every time he opens his mouth, I lose money. He needs to just shut-up and stop giving speeches. Since he was elected in November, I have lost 40% of my retirement because nobody believes in his “pile on the debt” approach.

Posted by: brian | February 25, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am

It would be so easy for the president to release a copy of his original birth certificate. Why doesn’t he do it? Just wondering…

Posted by: Terry | February 25, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am

Laurie
Bush is no longer President! Thank god Please stop pushing his Lies down our throats Dont Insult Peoples Intelligence!

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Does Obama want to get 95% of the country behind him 100%? It’s easy. Now that the Stimulus has been approved, go back and remove all the spending that is not needed (Pork) and make sure any new spending doesn’t contain any pork. And stop telling us there isn’t any pork or special interest spending in the package because we all know better. If he does that, he will get 95% of the country 100% behind him. We heard too many promises from Obama during the campaign about Earmarks and Pork. Now it’s time for him to put up or shut up. I really hope he chooses to trim the earmarks and pork so we can get it all together.

Posted by: Willy | February 25, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Great speech – I heard him promise the cure for baldness, small breasts, diabetes, parkinsons, Althzimers, blindness, erectile dysfunction, heartburn, high blood pressure, bad cholestrol, bad breath, big noses, and cancer. WOW. I’m impressed.

Posted by: Heavenislikethis | February 25, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am

“You people are so naive”
No Laurie, it is you who is naive. Simply because there are people out there who want us dead doesn’t translate to justification for the Iraq war. Get it?
And you don’t need to tell me about people wanting us dead. I was in NYC on 9/11 and lived about a mile from the Pentagon prior to moving up there. I lost two acquaintences at the WTC and one who killed himself later because he was so traumatized by it. So, snap out of your little naive manner of viewing the actions of the Bush Administration. The needlessly killed 4000+ Americans. More than OBL.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Brian
Thats not true 67% Percent of the American people do, Sorry the President isnt catering to the Wealthy Ceos!And wants to Fatten their Bank Accounts with our Tax Dollars

Posted by: Angie in PA | February 25, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am

USA-NC-)*….I agree with you and I asked that question a few days ago before the speech. Lets see what the market does and guess what, its tanking again. I knew it and so did a lot of other people.

Posted by: jim3857 | February 25, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Terry,
He has released his birth certificate, news organizations have validated it, there are records at the hospital he was born at. Please, please quit believing all the rumors you hear, and you can actually go online and see a copy if you take a moment. This is a non story and an example of rumor-mongering designed to smear Obama during the campaign that just won’t die.

Posted by: Ordermonger | February 25, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Republicans have a lot of nerve and little sense. I think Richard Nixon started the ball rolling when the Dollar was taken off the Gold Standard, which by the way, the founding fathers warned against doing, and he also started the for profit model of healthcare insurance with Kaiser-Permanente and the words “preexisting medical condition” were born. Reagan and Bush I Increased the deficit by record amounts in order to bankrupt the russians, which they did, but at a heavy price to this economy. They also started to institute trickle down theory which has caused the middle class to make less and less every year and allowed companies to outsource to foreign workers to make a buck. Bush II and people like Sen. Phil Gramm (R)and their hands off lack of regulation aproach in order to allow big business to flourish at the middle classes expence practically killed this economy.
I don’t know if this President can fix the problem but he deserves a chance because obviously he has a vested interest in how history will judge him regardless of who started it. people with no ideas should keep silent and those with good ideas should share them with their representatives for possible implimentation. The time to Bi-ch is over, It wont help. The time to do is now. It’s time to get to work and make a better society for all.

Posted by: GENE | February 25, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am

What should be done to turn the economy around?..You Republican bloggers! Can you give another way other than the way the president Obama has outlined! I know none of you would because there is not other way..The man is trying to do something and for once we have a president who cares about all of America not just the rich..Do you guys really believe that Bush cared about those soldiers in Iraq? He got us into a baseless war in Iraq and spent billions of dollars of our(tax payers money) to fund that poor excuse for a war in Iraq and if any of you think there is no connect between the billions of dollars spent on the war and the current economic situation then I know some of you must be on “crack” or some drug..that money could have been invested to make America’s economy stronger. If people would only read and forget about partisanship they would find out that under Republican presidents we are always left with a big deficit..even Reagan who postured as a fiscal conservative spent trillions and left us with a big deficit..George W..the same and all the other Republican presidents..knock, knock! does anyone have the commonsense to see that the Republican party poses as fiscal conservatives but borrow and spend more than the democrats..When the Republicans spend they spend on wars..when the democrat spend they do on social programs..you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure out which one makes more sense. Me thinks Americans are ignoring Rush(the comedian)Limbaugh and the likes and are seeing the Republican party for what it truly is a Party for the rich and those who pretend to be..but the current situation is hard on the pretenders and a few of them sucked up their foolish pride and voted for Obama after acknowledging that the Republican party is crap and got us into this mess. God bless president Barack Obama and God bless America and save us from the Republicans!

Posted by: Stanley | February 25, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Obama doesn’t get it. If he did, then the markets wouldn’t be down almost 200 points this morning.

Posted by: D | February 25, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Apparently I saw and heard something completely different than most of you. Obama is not reassuring or inspiring. He is the most negative president I have ever seen. All he does is spend money we don’t have and make empty promises

Posted by: scott | February 25, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Ordermonger
A copy of the original birth certeficate has not been issued – just a recently created “abstract”. What hospital was he born in?

Posted by: terry | February 25, 2009, 10:53 am 10:53 am

‘BHO gets it’. . . my hind quarters!
This neophyte is in way over his head. He hasn’t a clue what economics is all about.
His solution to EVERYTHING is; make a speech. Talk, Talk, Talk ad infinitum.
If it doesn’t have to do with Marxism he doesn’t understand it.
All that could be gleaned from this latest ‘great speech’ was that the media is still fawning over this moron and any lie he tells will eventually be declared the truth.
‘It’s Bushes fault’ I thought BHO was soooo smart he could fix it, guess this is just one more lie he can’t deliver on.
How long can he keep making excuses for not having any solutions? Rhetorical I know – as long as the MSM is unwilling to take responsibility for electing this incompetent president.
You gotta admit though he is much better than Bush in one respect. It took Bush 8 years to get the deficit to where it was when he left office. It only took BHO 60 days to double it! And his failed speeches have driven the stock market to the lowest levels in 20 years.
Good job BHO . . . looks like it’s time for another speech.
Analyst, Ph.D.

Posted by: LastRanger | February 25, 2009, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Acutally the market would tank whenever Bush went on TV to address the nation as well. But people have to stop thinking that Wall Street is some separate elitist entity in this country or believing that the economy is moving forward when the market drops. The price is set by the INVESTORS, not the CEOs, and those investors represent Main Street residents who have a vested interest through their IRAs, pensions, and 401(K) plans. The market reflects the strength of the economy and a weak market means that the economy is continuing to tank, not that the greedy execs are being properly punished by the administration.

Posted by: Publius | February 25, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Terry,
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
He released it to factcheck.org, they scanned it, they took pictures of it, you can see it for yourself. Please stop.

Posted by: Ordermonger | February 25, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am

“‘It’s Bushes fault’ I thought BHO was soooo smart he could fix it,”
Pssstttt…he’s been in office not even 5 weeks. We’re in a very serious depression. Just a heads up. Fixing something like that takes time.
My God, I’m embarrassed for some of you.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am

Terry,
Follow the link and you can see: The certificate was released to factcheck, they scanned it, they took pictures of it, you can see it. Please stop.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Posted by: Ordermonger | February 25, 2009, 10:59 am 10:59 am

sliky:
If he can do this much damage in only 5 weeks. What’s in store for 4 years?

Posted by: Last Ranger | February 25, 2009, 10:59 am 10:59 am

Angie in PA–easy solution, the gov’t should adopt a spend as you go Budget. Isn’t that what responsible Americans do? And we want our Gov’t to be responsible. To all of you who didn’t know this. The Clinton era of zero deficit was created by Bush 41 trying to get the country of a recession. He initiated the pay as you go budget. BUsh 41 didn’t get credit for the economic turn around because he was a 1 term president. So kudos to Clinton for not reversing the Bush 41 decision

Posted by: brian Burkart | February 25, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am

terry
Yeah, Obama can’t be a natural born American, he’s too intelligent.

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am

BILLY BOB
Fox News Picked apart that tape put it together Their way to Make Obama sound like a socialist!And no Billy Bob SMALL BUSINESS NOT CORPORATE DO NOT NET 250,000 A YEAR you do Know what NET MEANS
Posted by: Angie in PA | Feb 25, 2009 10:32:06 AM
Well I guess ABC, NBC, CBS, ect used Fox’s picked apart version of Obama telling Joe he was going to re-distribute the wealth. I hape i know what net means, because I am a small business owner. You really are clueless.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am

All you hostile right-wing bigots (especially you jacked)for the last time get over it, work on getting a canidate for 2016 because the office is booked until then. You expect this man to resolve problems causes by 8 years of incompetency and larceny in one month. There has been so much swept under the rug that he still doesn’t know what all he dealing with. You need to look in the mirror and repeat after me “we blew it”.

Posted by: raymon' | February 25, 2009, 11:01 am 11:01 am

dow down 185. That is reassuring

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 11:02 am 11:02 am

All you Obama haters are scared of change. You all are so used to crap that never work, that you bleed it.
I guest trying something is considered socialism or failure.

Posted by: nubiangent08 | February 25, 2009, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Eight years and a $10 trillion national deficit is the LEGACY of the Bush Republican administration. Do you know how much money that is? Neither do I, and I can’t imagine how long it will take to repay it. What we DO know is that we can’t trust the GOP when they say all they care about is keeping America out of debt. It would be funny if it weren’t so serious.
Love the way Republicans published their “response” to the President’s speech BEFORE he made it. Even better that the beloved GOP is still saying the same thing they’ve been saying since at least the Carter administration over thirty years ago. This saves us the time we’d otherwise waste by watching or listening to them, since we already know their argument well after having heard it ad nauseum during the two year campaign when we rejected it. Still offering no solutions, the GOP just says “no” to Mr. Obama.
Mr. Bush and his band of merry Republicans left us with a $10 trillion deficit. They are out of power, so NOW they claim to be concerned about the government piling up debt that our children can’t repay. Too late, because they’ve already done that.
Bush and the GOP gave the average wealthy person a $700,000 annual tax cut since 2001. Those who didn’t get that cut have to pay for those who did. A massive redistribution of wealth. Bush didn’t “get” Bin Laden, so he lost the Afghanistan war. There are two new enemies in Iraq that weren’t there when Bush invaded, so he lost that war. Al Queda and Iran wouldn’t have dared enter Iraq when Saddam was in power, so killing him actually made us LESS safe.
Bush “spread democracy to the middle east” but then the Palestinians elected Hamas as their government, so Israel’s worse off than before. Similarly, the Iraqis elected the Shiites who are the puppets of Iran, so that’s much worse than Saddam. Likewise, Bush sought to weaken Syria’s influence in Lebanon, but that resulted in a proxy war against Israel that then Lebanese actually won.
The tired old notions the Republicans keep screaming at us have been tried, but they have failed us miserably and it’s time to tune them out entirely.

Posted by: dmjakers | February 25, 2009, 11:03 am 11:03 am

Ordermonger
I’ve seen that and I don’t dispute that it is an authentic document. But it is not a copy of the original birth certificate, the one that was created back in 1961. It is an abstract. Why doesn’t the president put an end to the speculation and have a photo copy of the original released? You mentioned the hospital where he was born. Which hospital was that?

Posted by: Terry | February 25, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Silky,
3000 Americans needlessly died because of Bill Clinton. Our soldiers believed in their cause – your representatives were traitors throughout this war calling them murderers and saying the war was lost while they were in battle.
So by your reasoning if you saw your neighbor loading TNT, plutonium, etc into his house you would just wait and see and would not call him out on it. We tried to deal with Sadaam through
the useless UN and he laughed in our faces. Exactly at what point would you have dealt with Iraq?
I am truly sorry for your losses and I surely hope that we never have to endure another 9/11 again.
Barb – The first World Trade center bombing was an Act of War and Clinton handled it as a “crime”. Really eliminated the threat putting them in jail huh?

Posted by: Laurie | February 25, 2009, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Finally a President who will stand up to these Ceo’s and people who are making millions and millions…it’s not right
_______________________
I will say it again. Who do you think is going to pay for Obama and pelosi’s spending spree?? Corporate america hires the employees who pay taxes, they also pay HUGE corp taxes (2nd highest in the world).

Posted by: Louisa | February 25, 2009, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Angie in PA: Your ignorance is amazing. Bush is the one who inherited a recession from Clinton, the one who expanded the CRA. Since you are an Obama voter, I will explain that the CRA is the ‘Community Reinvestment Act’ which pressed banks to give loans to poor blacks. It was Clinton’s way of buying votes. Any banks who did not increase loans to the poor would be sued. Citigroup for example was sued because of this. It was a case titled Bucks-Renyolds vs Citigrop. And who was the trail attorney for the group claiming discimination? You guessed it… Barack Obama. LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER.

Posted by: mm | February 25, 2009, 11:05 am 11:05 am

dow down 185. That is reassuring
The smart money knows the difference between a used car salesman and a president.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am

“sliky:
If he can do this much damage in only 5 weeks. What’s in store for 4 years?”
He hasn’t done any damage. The accounting on his actions isn’t going to come for quite a while. But nice try.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Funny how the DOW drops everytime the President uses accountabilty , Wall Street and Banks in the same sentence. I guess Wall Street and the banks do not being told they will not be able to rip off the American public anymore.

Posted by: CAW | February 25, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am

“The smart money knows the difference between a used car salesman and a president.”
lol. You guys are funny.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Now we have a bright, intelligent, articulate, president who cares about all of America..not just the rich and well to do and Halliburton! This man wants to make a difference in the lives of all Americans.. Well I say thank God. There will be naysayers like the ignorant few on this blog who will tell you with a straight face that Bush was the best president we have ever had and we won the war in Iraq..these people are drinking spiked koolaid and have the nerve to criticize Obama..None of you Obama critics have a solution to the current situaton but you have the nerve to criticize a man who is trying to make a difference to turn this economy around..

Posted by: Stanley | February 25, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am

If this were truly the day of reckoning, then this “bail out” would stipulate that these funds would truly not go to help the irresponsible. Although he said that, all his people admit that there’s no way to assure that and they likened it to you still put out the fire for the guy smoking in bed. What crap…the day of reckoning at this spending pace will come when my grandchildren are my age. Without concrete assurances that what he was saying will indeed be fact, we might as well have been listening to Mickey Mouse. At least with Bush there was still a shadow of a doubt about the WMD’s that he was accused of lying about…with Obama we now no he will straight up lie to us. Here’s a fact check on his “inspiring speech”:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29377101/

Posted by: Watchinig_In_Amazement | February 25, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am

DMjakers: I agree with you. And people like Terry who keep harping on a birth certificate, this is the type of person who has blinders on and voted for Bush twice and thinks he was just ducky.
We finally have an intelligent president. I’m so tired of some of these ridiculous remarks on this blog….I can see why we are in so much trouble.

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Every time he speaks, the DOW drops. The Chosen One needs to shut up.

Posted by: Ricky | February 25, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am

An easy CHEAP SHOT from Rick Klein. You can call anything rhetoric if you are too lazy or too pessimistic to follow. I think President Obamas call to action last night was nothing short of inspirational and absolutely hopeful.

Posted by: PRESIDENT OBAMA | February 25, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am

“Silky,
3000 Americans needlessly died because of Bill Clinton.”
How so?
“Our soldiers believed in their cause”
MANY of them most certainly did not. But they stayed and followed orders anyway, which is what we need them to do. So, God bless them.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am

am i the only one who thought Pelosi looked like she had smoked something last night. She is a trainwreck that needs to go back to her liberal island…

Posted by: Louisa | February 25, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Why do people use the market drop as a argument against Obama. I love the fact these CEOs, Banks, and Wall Street are going to have to account for their spending. Unfortunatly the aboved mentioned doesnt like it.

Posted by: CAW | February 25, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Republicans…wake up…..is that the best we have.. Palin????? Jindal…..
HEAVENS HELP US

Posted by: BSKI | February 25, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am

The best thing Obama could do for the country is shut up. Every time he opens his mouth the economy gets worse and the markets go down. He’ll have this entire country in the garbage can within a year.

Posted by: rplat | February 25, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am

The mouths of the Republican party have got to be the most masochistic group of airheads to come down the pike in quite awhile. They criticize the efforts of one of the most (momentarily) popular President’s yet offer nothing but the same thinking that just got them defeated in the House, Senate, and the White House races. Any good points that Republicans have to offer cannot see the light of day in these times because they are completely buried within the mini-minded rhetorical swill being spewed about by so called “Leadership” that should have died, or better yet, committed suicide with the last gasps of the Bush fiasco.
Republicans are squandering a golden opportunity to regain stature. This young and inexperienced President is taking the entire Republican Party to school and they don’t even realize it. This is a time for Republicans to show some selective unity behind an administration that is way out on a limb politically. They should do this for the sake of the country as a whole. . . .and selfishly for the sake of a Political Party that needs to regroup and postulate their differences as “warnings” and “insights” which can be remembered as thoughtful alternative recommendations as opposed to stupid senseless loser posturing. Today is NOT your day, Republicans, and tomorrow isn’t going to be either at the rate you are going. Waste the present opportunity and say “hello” to your minority position for years to come!

Posted by: chuck, Illinois | February 25, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am

Liberal! Kool-Aid! Messiah! Nobama! Birth Certificate! POOORRRRKKK!!!!

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am

CAW That has nothing to do with why the market dropped. It dropped because business has no faith in the actions of the democrats and Obama, plain and simple.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am

“We will rebuild..” reminds me of Deep Impact. in fact, IMO Morgan Freeman might even did a better job.
So we will recover because, we will be receiving an extra $13 a week! He is really a con salesman.
Then Obama said that we will be able to save 2 Trillion in ten years, Wow! Can please somebody tell him him that he will be just one term President.

Posted by: Jeff B | February 25, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am

I have a dream…we will speeeeeend money by the hundreds of billions and rescue all of the banks. We will rebuild to be better. We will strengthen in the future. Some of you may not believe…but I ask you to have hope…it will get better

Posted by: Obama King | February 25, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Finally we have a president that stands up to Celebrities, and sport stars. Its about time that Morgan Freeman, Will Smith, Beyonce, and Tiger Woods be cut down to size.
Tiger makes 40 million per year. Beyonce makes 80 million per year.
Will Smith about 50 million per year.
I’m a CEO making 1.2 million per year.
Darn it.

Posted by: heavenislikethis | February 25, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am

I voted for Obama and cant stand Pelosi. She and others like her are part of the problem. Senator Lieberman sure looked like the poor loner of the crowd.

Posted by: CAW | February 25, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Terry, Where do you think Obama was born? Huh! You Republicans would not drop this birth certificate crap story..you know its a lie yet you perpetuate it. Obama is a born American..Hawaii is an American territory when I last checked..Why don’t you Republicans spend your time thinking about what to do if you win the general elections in 2024?

Posted by: Stanley | February 25, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Silky; I gave upbeat my best effort. What? Me worry? The man has a plan. He intends to totally upset the proverbial applecart and build a new applecart his way, with our money on our time without our permission. He’s doing it for us. It’s long overdue. He is going to do what he’s going to do and nobody better get in his way. So be it. I get the message. May God’s providence shine down on this, our only nation. I’ll be working extra hard today, doing my part.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | February 25, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am

“3000 Americans needlessly died because of Bill Clinton.”
Only a hardcore rightwing Republican would try to spin our national tragedy into a partisan talking point.
Osama bin Laden is responsible for those 3,000 deaths.

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Why is it that whenever this guy speaks the stock market tanks?

Posted by: LongT | February 25, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am

“Why do people use the market drop as a argument against Obama. I love the fact these CEOs, Banks, and Wall Street are going to have to account for their spending. Unfortunatly the aboved mentioned doesnt like it.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Stop whining about a few crooked CEOs . . . jail them and get on with it. If we don’t turn lose the free market economy this poor sick country will collapse under its own weight. Obama and his inept socialist policies are driving the entire nation into oblivion.

Posted by: rplat | February 25, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Americans love negative stuffs and president Obama is not for that. That’s too bad for some people.

Posted by: Debo Taiwo | February 25, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Stock tip, when Obama is going to speak, SELL SELL SELL.

Posted by: billy bob | February 25, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

CAW That has nothing to do with why the market dropped. It dropped because business has no faith in the actions of the democrats and Obama, plain and simple.
Posted by: billy bob ————–Maybe for both reasons but the market also dropped everytime Bush spoke too. What was that reason and that happened with a Rep lead Congress as well.

Posted by: CAW | February 25, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Bobby Jindal, the next president of the United States? Hold on while I puke!

Posted by: what667 | February 25, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

“Why is it that whenever this guy speaks the stock market tanks?”
I see this is pillcRUSHer’s copy/paste item for the day. Good work, my little sheep!

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am

long t : because the market doesn’tlike socialism.

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Stanley,
Just wondering why the president doesn’t issue a copy of the original birth certificate. It would be so easy to do. It would certainly put an end to a lot of speculation…

Posted by: Terry | February 25, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am

I am middle class I have always paid my bills. When time got hard I work two jobs. I have never file chapter 13 never had my wages garnished. I took care of my life with no help from the government. I was against the bail out of the banks but the got are money and just keep on partying. I am against the home owner bail they should have bought something they knew they couldn’t afford. I have lost 30% of my 401k. I want the government to stop giving away my tax money. The middle class did the right thing and now we have to pay! THIS IS CRAZY!!!

Posted by: Bill | February 25, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Americans in generals are quite receptive to what President Obama is trying to do. The question is not whether his ideas will go over with us, but whether they will receive any support from the so-called Republican leadership that wants to do nothing and see nothing happen, in hopes that it will increase their chances of picking up more wins next election. As usual, their narrow agenda has nothing to do with the best interests of America.

Posted by: iamwomaninmi | February 25, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am

“Just wondering why the president doesn’t issue a copy of the original birth certificate. It would be so easy to do. It would certainly put an end to a lot of speculation…”
There is no speculation. There is a small room full of people with cute little tin foil hats who keep each other entertained with such talk. But that’s the extent of it.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am

I heard a lot of raw raw raw but not really how this is gonna work. I am middle income with a child in college, no FAFSA for us…now we are having problems finding a student loan…how is all of this rhetoric gonna work…somebody please spell it out for us. The middle income families are gonna drown before help comes. An extra $13 on my check is gonna do what? Put a little gas in the tank, it sure won’t pay for my childs college. This is all a bunch of B. S.

Posted by: irritated | February 25, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am

I heard a lot of raw raw raw but not really how this is gonna work. I am middle income with a child in college, no FAFSA for us…now we are having problems finding a student loan…how is all of this rhetoric gonna work…somebody please spell it out for us. The middle income families are gonna drown before help comes. An extra $13 on my check is gonna do what? Put a little gas in the tank, it sure won’t pay for my childs college. This is all a bunch of B. S.

Posted by: irritated | February 25, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am

The stock market continues the Obama Crash of 2009. Every time O’Babble opens his mouth, the market takes another header, it would be beneficial if he would just shut up !

Posted by: Ron | February 25, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am

“An extra $13 on my check is gonna do what?”
It adds up and it puts it back into the economy. A lump sum tends to be saved or used to pay down debt. This way, you are more likely to spend it.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am

so the GOP strategy is: “oppose everything, offer the usual supply side arguments, and hope he fails”…sounds risky strategy for the GOP and even worse for the country…get onboard folks…and get on with it.

Posted by: indithinker | February 25, 2009, 11:30 am 11:30 am

ok I’m off this blog….It’s sickening to hear people asking about a birth certificate when our country is in deep debt and trouble. I can see why judging by some of the remarks on this blog.
God help President Obama and all of us because with people like this we’re gonna need all the help we can get. I can see why my overseas friends make fun of us.

Posted by: Barb | February 25, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Ridiculous! Obama DOES NOT GET IT. Its not the people who caused the problems! Its big banks and he is going to give them MORE money even more than the $787 billion! He says banks need to loan money??? Loaning money to people who cant afford it is how the economy got broken in the first place. How much money did he alot for unemployment a measly $120 billion (out of $787 billion) and we are on the brink of the 2nd great depression and the biggest loss of in the history of the USA. He isnt taxing big companies who shipped our jobs to China and India! So why would private sector companies hire americans who want $18-25 an hour when they can hire overseas workers for $8 an hour to do the same jobs! The president is not doing anything to encourage private sector companies to hire Americans! A typical democrat all he knows how to do is spend and he is even spending while claiming he will save $1.3 TRILLION!!! He can lie all he wants (every polictician lies). But the truth is we are not going to get jobs as bridge builders, windmill makers or laying fiber optic cables!!! We dont even need more fiber optic cable! They have wireless internet all over now moron. Bottom line is people with no job dont buy new cars, they dont get bank loans etc. Unless Obama starts taxing big companies to the tune of $100K per overseas worker they have on the books & hire we are all doomed job wise in America. He wont cause the big companies and banks are in his pocket.

Posted by: Paulie | February 25, 2009, 11:33 am 11:33 am

When I heard the word “crisis” within the first few lines I had to change the station. I couldn’t watch another downer speech. Everytime this guy talks I have to work 5 more years into my retirement! I hope my kids can get student loans because their college fund is non-existant!

Posted by: opinionatedinpa | February 25, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am

I’m going to save my $13 a week and buy anew car inthe year 2089. ah, wait i’ll be 129 years old. scratch that, I’ll just smoke 2 more packs a week. thanks BO.

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Tired of hearing all this birth certificate stuff. If his mother, born in Kansas, was an American citizen, he’s an American citizen, regardless of where in the world he was born. But wait, was he born in the world or…maybe he’s an alien….from another planet…only part human….

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | February 25, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am

silky what are you going to do with your $13 a week?

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Obama’s ideas had better not be sold. Socialist policies will result in failure. How much bailout money are Hollywood, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, etc getting? Even the 80% tax consumers in Baltimore slums can tell you that SOCIALISM IS FAILED. The strings of government dependence are deadly and Obama will KILL incentive to work hard and KILL this country if he is successful in selling his policies. You media folks are a huge part of the problem and you sure know how to manipulate some of the public.

Posted by: govtdependentsRus | February 25, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am

OBAMA: “Over the next two years, this plan will save or create 3.5 million jobs.”
THE FACTS: This is a recurrent Obama formulation. But job creation projections are uncertain even in stable times, and some of the economists relied on by Obama in making his forecast acknowledge a great deal of uncertainty in their numbers.
The president’s own economists, in a report prepared last month, stated, “It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error.”
Beyond that, it’s unlikely the nation will ever know how many jobs are saved as a result of the stimulus. While it’s clear when jobs are abolished, there’s no economic gauge that tracks job preservation. The estimates are based on economic assumptions of how many jobs would be lost without the stimulus.
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This is the great piece of Obama “magic”! Since there is NO definition or mechanism for reporting a “saved” job, the administration can pull any number out of the air and justify it by saying “we say so”.
The only possible way to record “saved” jobs is for every company to report them. In oerder to report them, you would have to define them, the natural assumption is that a “saved” job is one that has been slated for lay-off, but then did not occur. Reporting this would create an even larger problem related to confidence.
So, since there is NO real way to report saved jobs, DO NOT bother with it! Just give us the estimates on REAL, TRUE job creation!
The fact is those numbers would not impress or inspire anyone!

Posted by: Mike_C | February 25, 2009, 11:39 am 11:39 am

2009 45% of the pop is dependent on government. 2012 65% of the pop is dependent on goverment and so on. Is this what he meant by change?

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Study: Network news coverage favored Republicans from 1992-2004.
It’s a truism among conservatives that the media has a liberal bias, but a study of campaign coverage released by Indiana University has found that ABC, CBS, and NBC favored Republicans in each of the presidential elections from 1992 through 2004. The study, which is the “first major research project analyzing the relatively unexplored territory of visual coverage in presidential elections,” found that “production decisions” such as editing techniques, camera angles and shot lengths were more favorable to Republicans. The study also looked at “who is given the last say in a piece,” finding that “GOP candidates were favored in terms of having the last say in all but the 2004 election.”

Posted by: BlueJerssey | February 25, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am

silky : read the article at the new york times in 1999 about fannie and freddie and you will change your mind on who created this mess.

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am

“silky what are you going to do with your $13 a week?”
Drink beer. Ultimately, put it back into the economy.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am

The market doesn’t think much of Obama’s speech. They are down again. Obama knows how to give a speech. Nothing else. The guy is a “catastrophe” for America.

Posted by: CW | February 25, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am

Stanley,
“Just wondering why the president doesn’t issue a copy of the original birth certificate. It would be so easy to do. It would certainly put an end to a lot of speculation…”
Hey idiot.. look on the WH website.. It’s there you ignorant tool.

Posted by: BlueJerssey | February 25, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am

“socialism, socialism, socialism!”
- pretty laughable coming from a bunch of folks that don’t even have passports and have never even seen or experienced “sociaism” – would love to hear your “experience” in socialism that makes you all experts…trust me you are WAY off….
even after GWB, expanded government and government spending and nationalized AIG, we dont even approach socialism.

Posted by: indithinker | February 25, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am

“silky : read the article at the new york times in 1999 about fannie and freddie and you will change your mind on who created this mess.”
I’ve read it.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am

1992 through 2004. >>> I wonder if this is based on something that cant be pointed to as bias? Measure how many favorable articles were out in 2004 on the republicans and how many favorable articles were out on the Democrats. I think it tells a different story.

Posted by: ChicagBob | February 25, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am

If a man needs $100 I will gladly give it to him. If I give $100 to the U.S. government to “distribute” to him, how much of that money actually will make it to the man in need?

Posted by: govtdependentsRus | February 25, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am

Silky, smart money is real money. You don’t have money if your stupid

Posted by: brian Burkart | February 25, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am

bluejersy: then with that study we should have the fairness doctrine implemented at abc nbc cnn cbs too. correct?

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Just posting the resultys of the study. I’m sure your request would be the same. Why don’t you reseach it?

Posted by: BlueJerssey | February 25, 2009, 11:45 am 11:45 am

“You don’t have money if your stupid”
You obviously haven’t met many people with money.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:45 am 11:45 am

i heard half the speech and read the rest while on the treadmill. the man can talk and sounded good,then when i had converted to text without all of obamas passion i saw a dfferent speach then that which i heard. i am not knocking the man for dreams. thats cool. but i dream i win the lottery everyday.
my concern is how do you do all of that and only tax the upper 2
percent of society and cut the deficit in half in 4 years. the math doesnt work or the devil is in the details. i will be honest if i could get all the things obabma prommissed last night without paying any more tax….i wouldnt work nearly as much and keep my income low enough to avoid paying anymore tax. my healthcare costs my family 17.000 a year and i have 2 kids left to put through school. if i can get this all for the govt…i will not work or as much as i do and i will vote for obama….sounds way to good to be true….which always means it isnt.

Posted by: catman | February 25, 2009, 11:46 am 11:46 am

I don’t care about ant fairness doctrine. The media attemps to favor one side over the other was defeated. That”s fair enough for me..

Posted by: BlueJerssey | February 25, 2009, 11:47 am 11:47 am

Bill Clinton left office with a 2 trillion dollar surplus.
George Bush left office with a 4.2 trillion dollar deficit, national engagement in two simultaneous wars, and millions of workers added to the unemployment roles.
In response to Obama’s address last night Jendel called up memories of Katrina, $4/gallon gas prices as images of Bush and “Brownie” and floating human of so many human corpse floating in the Mississippi River came across my mind along with the fact that each time I had to shell out over $4 for each gallon of gas I had a Texas oil man sitting in the Oval Office and deregulation not only of banks, Wall Street investment practices, but also other important sectors that effect our families and our health.
We need to move on and to do that we need to create our own day, each day, working together.

Posted by: cieocom | February 25, 2009, 11:47 am 11:47 am

catman: I’m thinking about quitting my job and going on govermnet help. It’s easier and can drink more beer with silky . My kids will need alot of care in the next 50 years and so why not let the gov pay for it. I don’t need to work if Bo is going to pay for everything. I think i will quit paying my mortgage today and see if the timing is going to be right for a bailout.

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am

MEDIA = Manipulative Egomaniacs Determined to Implement Anarchy. They have pompously decided who would be the next president and got him elected. By bashing on Bush and Republicans for years and growing their audience of stay-at-home government dependents. Same folks have been running Baltimore for over 30 years (there are exactly ZERO Republicans in office) and it’s a complete urban disaster, high crime, high taxes, miserable schools (and yet the highest per student funding!!). The only successful businesses in this socialist city are illegal drugs and illegal guns. But that’s what you get when the government “takes care” of everyone. 20% tax payers, 80% tax consumers in an urban disaster zone. NOW Obama wants to take the entire U.S. that direction. And people swoon over him like Adolph Hitler. Check out your old videos of Hitler or more recent ones of Chavez. Free handouts sure sound nice but the strings of government dependence are DEADLY.

Posted by: govtdependentsRus | February 25, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am

People may be all “a twitter” but Wall Street is tanking again….hummm……guess Bernanke’s one liner yesterday was more powerful

Posted by: Judy M | February 25, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am

bluejersey ; I have a funny feeling running up and down my leg.

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am

BlueJerssey
I was wondering why the president doesn’t release a copy of the original document, the one created in 1961. We’ve all seen copies of the recently issued abstract.

Posted by: Terry | February 25, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am

“I was wondering why the president doesn’t release a copy of the original document, the one created in 1961.”
Because he is already the President. And he’s a little busy.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Obama never promised us the moon with a fence around it tied in our back yard. To all the naysayers — GET REAL! There aint no free lunch! From all the bellyaching, griping and thumbing of noses on this board one would think Americans never heard of hard work. The spirit of the American people, the ability to rise above pettyness, to make lemonade when circumstances hands us lemons, the ability to innovate and embrace change are the qualities that made our nation great. The hide-in-the-corner denial of the toxicity of the legacy from the past 8 years is a defeatist reaction of ‘we can’t', the antithesis of the can-do philosophy that spurred us to achieve and to overcome once thought to be insurmountable bumps in the road.

Posted by: nanameow | February 25, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Silky-please give an example of someone who is stupid that has money?

Posted by: brian burkart | February 25, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am

louisa Kinda got it backwards did’nt you? You say you have a President that stands up to CEOs and then you say the employees will pay the taxes?? Kinda has us all screwed does it not? CEOs just move on and so do Presidents. We have heard what he is saying for more than fifty years in my time and no one has kept a promise.

Posted by: Jim Rod | February 25, 2009, 11:58 am 11:58 am

I hope venting on a blog is as cathartic for conservative Republicans as they make it out to be. Despite the flooding of blogs the country by a large majority approve of Obama’s approach to resolving the crisis. During the election cycle blogs drove news coverage. Republicans are only getting that now though. Kinda funny. I am pleased that my formerly red county is doing everything possible to keep the people that turned my Texas county blue actively involved. 2010 is right around the corner.

Posted by: Texan American | February 25, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am

“Silky-please give an example of someone who is stupid that has money?”
PLENTY of people. Much of the wealth in this country is inherited. One need not do anything but be born to get it in that scenario. Also, many sales people are idiots, but are good at bs’ing and have no moral fabric to speak of, so they’ll lie and cheat their way to getting money. If you really think you have to be “smart” to get money, you are in serious need of a real world education.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

I love the claim that America invented the autombobile. (It was Karl Benz – a German). Typical American, blithely taking credit for absolutely everything!

Posted by: mike friday | February 25, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Barry’s socialist agenda, which he learned by being a devout member of reverend racist’s church for 20 years, is being rammed down our throats.
The liberal nutjob media can’t even protect barry anymore. His honeymoon is over.

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

The first the BHO can do to inspire hope is to SHUT HIS TRAP. Each time he opens it the stock market falls 200 points. No one is buying his socialist fix. They have never worked.The will not work here.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I miss BUSH!

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | February 25, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

“No one is buying his socialist fix.”
Doesn’t matter. It passed and is going to work or not work, regardless of whether or not you “buy” it.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

silky ———Why dont y7ou also mention that their are many smart sales people that are honest and look after their customers best interest. I assure you the these type of salesman do much better than the dishonest ones because they have return customers.

Posted by: CAW | February 25, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

You gotta hand it to Obama – he can sell you beachfront property on Mars and have you walk away smiling. He just did this to us twice. When will we ever learn?

Posted by: Mike | February 25, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

The man gives great speeches. But it is going to take more than great speeches to repair this country’s ills. If some action doesn’t back his words up soon, I think people will get really, really angry.

Posted by: SR | February 25, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Did I watch the same speech as everyone else??? I thought it was upbeat, positive and filled with information as to what needs to be done. Once again, please give him a chance. He is our best hope for things to turnaround, and given the classless behaviour of some Repubs, he’s our only hope—so if you have nothing positive or contributive to add, shut the blank up!

Posted by: Ginette43 | February 25, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Republicans and Conservatives are such holier than thou sour pusses. THey look a gift horse in the mouth and say I don’t want what you’re giving me as if they speak for all Americans. They don’t want to give America a hand to help in unemployment, education or healthcare. They want Americans to struggle in dead end jobs and have to go to the ER for healthcare. Hello? That is the status quo and Americans are NOT liking it. Bobby Jindal says Americans can do anything. That may be true but we can’t do much when we’re getting screwed by Wall St and by your Republican friends. One step ahead and two steps back. Where was Bush when people started getting foreclosed on and banks were failing? Why didn’t he act? If a Republican were president now, things would continue in the harsh way of the Herbert Hoover era. Americans would end up in bread lines with no food, no education and no healthcare. Where are the small businesses Bobby? Why aren’t they hiring? Do you see the shantytowns being constructed in American cities for the homeless? Do you see poverty in the streets? You should recognize it coming from India. Open sewers, trash strewn around. People living with tuberculosis around children. Is this what Republicans want? It would be so easy to continue the rich vs poor way of the Bush days. Yeah – who cares? Give the rich another tax cut. Maybe it’ll trickle down – NOT

Posted by: Bob | February 25, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

PLENTY is not an example. Also, it is blatantly obvious that you are the outsider on this blog with your views. With this many posts, you definitely don’t speak for the majority—QUACK QUACK

Posted by: brian burkart | February 25, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

The Republicans I gather would rather go back to a President that considers a complete sentence “Executive Privilege.”
These same complainers are willing to judge a President that has been in office 5 weeks. They want failure and yes even at the sacrifice of the over all good of the country just so they can say I told you so. Plus they know if Obama is only 50 percent right the Republicans will loose in 2012. I recommend working on your own party and start training Palin now. Palin- Ha!

Posted by: CAW | February 25, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Cieocom dont forget to blame your govenor and mayor. They are just as bad and more at fault for what they did.

Posted by: Jim Rod | February 25, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

“PLENTY is not an example. Also, it is blatantly obvious that you are the outsider on this blog with your views. With this many posts, you definitely don’t speak for the majority—QUACK QUACK”
I’m absolutely fine with being an outsider in this group. The only reason you ahve numbers is that Drudge regularly links to this website. As for my plenty comment, I’m not going to name the names of the people I know, you moron. If you don’t know what I’m referring to, you simply are either a child with little experience inthe world, or blind to what’s going on around you. But I’ll repeat, there is very little correlation between money and smarts.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

CAW–silky must not have a skill or talent to make money. 99% of all sales people have a talent to befriend people, earn trust and foster a repeat business like you said. Silky likes to drink the water you and I carry

Posted by: brian burkart | February 25, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

BO is a moron,,,i agree with your assessment. my rage is gone because those who wish not to see wont. if he could do all of this i will vote for him beacuse i will be on a beach dinking pina coladas. he is a dreamer.it doesnt take a degree in economics which i have or a math degree or an mba in finance or a C.p,a which i have to figure out that the math doesnt work….hence wall streets reaction. i want a mistress for christmas too.

Posted by: catman | February 25, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Where were all the critics the past 8 years when 1. we invaded a country because of their weapons of mass destruction ? 2. one billion bucks a month for a war 3. lack of regulation on the financial industry 4. Bush’s final act, no accountability for the TARP money given out

Posted by: 4answers | February 25, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

“CAW–silky must not have a skill or talent to make money. 99% of all sales people have a talent to befriend people, earn trust and foster a repeat business like you said. Silky likes to drink the water you and I carry”
Seriously, you are a buffoon. Being a bulls hitter has absolutely NOTHING to do with being smart. Maybe you just have the wrong idea of what constitutes “smart.”

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

silky
Stared into the light and followed “change” a long time ago. He has blindly followed it to God knows where.
He is someone who has invested so much time and energy (particularly on these blogs) to promoting BO’s “change”, that he will never admitt that BO is a socialist with NO experience and a horrific vision of America.
He will keep spouting change! change! change! up until the next socialist leader starts running for office.
Silky, would you campaign as adamently for Hugo Chavez or Castro? Both dicators have publicly supported BO, and all 3 men’s visions of the world seem to be quite similar.

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Obama gaffe? He lies so much and ‘invents’ so much as he goes along in his ‘eloquent’ speeches, that he doesn’t even know the difference when he states something that is factually UNTRUE.
Shame on those 909 speech writers of his.

Posted by: amusedamerican | February 25, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

“Silky, would you campaign as adamently for Hugo Chavez or Castro?”
Well, gee, since they support him then he must subscribe to the same ideology that they do! Stop being a moron.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

barryisasocialist didn’t take his medication this morning.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Re: health care, if America really wants to solve the crisis here it has to move to a some kind of fully “socialized” single-payer system. The kind of response Obama is proposing that just involves huge subsidies for the already incredibly bloated bureaucratic private insurance companies will not work. Obama really needs to pushed on this.
One of the most insidious pieces of propaganda I see in the US is the idea that a government run system is necessarily bureaucratic and involves the government having control of your health care decisions. I have lived in Canada and the US, and I can tell you that the Canadian system is both bureaucracy-free (at least for patient — it’s one of the reasons that can deliver the same services at such lower cost than in the US) and gives you COMPLETE freedom as to your health choices. The govt has NO say in the doctors you see (they just pay for them). In fact their is much greater freedom regarding health care choices in Canada than in the US, where patients are subject to the dictates of insurance companies and HMOs.
I know it is often hard for Americans to get their head around this — there is just so much propaganda and misinformation around this, but do the research (from Canada or other countries with single-payer systems — not US lobby groups!) and find out for yourself.

Posted by: john robinson | February 25, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Mt Wife, a Mater Chief with 29.3 years in will be retiring next year. Obama mentioned a pay raise which would be great help. Regardless she will receive 75 percent of her ending pay for the rest of her life. I have been married to her since she was a E-1. The military as been good to us and I recommend any young man or woman that is having a hard time with employment in these rough times to consider serving. If nothing else until times are better and even maybe make a career out of it. My 401k is about worthless these days so the pension will be a great help.

Posted by: CAW | February 25, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

The best part of the speech was watching pelosi doze off. is she really part of the government? democrats, where did u find this airhead??

Posted by: irf9 | February 25, 2009, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

silky I thought you didn’t care if anybody but your friends and relatives were truthful adn honest

Posted by: BO is a moron | February 25, 2009, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

silky———–Book smart and street smart are two different things. Some share both. I know Doctors that cant hook up a CD player or hang a curtain rod yet can do open heart surgery with their eyes closed. Being smart isnt a black or white thing. Everyone has their own smarts and their is nothing wrong with either.

Posted by: CAW | February 25, 2009, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

“silky I thought you didn’t care if anybody but your friends and relatives were truthful adn honest”
I didn’t say that and I don’t get your point. What I said was that I’m not a stickler about politicians being absolutely clean so long as they are effective. That if we’re talkinga bout friends and family, then yes, then I’m more concerned about morality. But politicians? I don’t care.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

THEY SAY THAT OBAMA READS HIS MAIL AND THAT HE GETS IT.I SENT HIM A PACKAGE AND HE HAS NOT GOT BACK TO ME YET.I SENT HIM A WAY TO HELP WITH ENERGY.I HAVE PERPETUATED THE CYCLE OF ENERGY.IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS.IT MEANS I CAN POWER YOUR HOME WITH NO POWER BILL.THIS MUST NOT INTEREST HIM.I SENT HIM VIDIO PROOF.I GUESS NONE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THIS.SO YOU CAN CONTINUE PAYING THAT HIGH ELECTRIC BILL.I USE ELECTRO MAGNETIC ENERGY.I HAVE DESIGNED A NEW KIND OF PLUG,AND YOU WOULD BE AMAZED WITH WHAT I HAVE DONE FROM A DREAM.SO I GUESS THIS DOES NOT BOTHER BARAK OBAMA.BUT IN HIS SPEACH THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT HE WANTED TO ADDRESS ALL THREE TIMES WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE TOPICS HE WANTED TO ADDRESS.THANK YOU//MARSHALL NICELY 865-209-8016///

Posted by: marshall | February 25, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Once again the stock market shows it is FAR more aware of the damage socialism can do to a free market then the obamabots are.
CHANGE! CHANGE! CHANGE! Right, Silky?

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Why is this editorial piece posed as a headline? This is not a news item but an opinion. Average Americans know that ABCNEWS is in the bag for Obama, but please don’t insult our intelligence by making your bias so obvious.

Posted by: Daemp424 | February 25, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

“silky———–Book smart and street smart are two different things. Some share both. I know Doctors that cant hook up a CD player or hang a curtain rod yet can do open heart surgery with their eyes closed. Being smart isnt a black or white thing. Everyone has their own smarts and their is nothing wrong with either.”
My point is that I’ve run into plenty of people with money who have neither.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

“CHANGE! CHANGE! CHANGE! Right, Silky?”
You need to actually TAKE the medication in order for it to work, barryisasocialist.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Yea Obama is a socialist, a terrorist and doesnt have a legal US BC. Please take this to the 2012 campaine Republicans. Maybe even pick Palin as your canidate. Hannidy, Rush and Savage are great and you should every work they speak.Please make it easy for a Obama win in 2012.

Posted by: CAW | February 25, 2009, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

“He is someone who has invested so much time and energy (particularly on these blogs) to promoting BO’s “change”"
I’ve never noticed Silky promoting Obama. He sounds more like a guy who just can’t help pointing out the absurdities sprouting from the rightwingers’ keyboards. Now me, I promote Obama!

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

silky-(FACT)those with a GED make less than those with a college degree. So that fact supports my position that smarts make money. There is always an exception to every rule. As for name calling(you calling me a moron) you demonstrate very little intellectual position. Name calling is the first response people have when they don’t have an answer

Posted by: brian burkart | February 25, 2009, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Silky
And you actually have to read history in order for you to realize that socialism/communism does not work. They have has also been responsible for the deaths of an estimated 100 million people in the last 100 years.

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

My point is that I’ve run into plenty of people with money who have neither.
Posted by: silky——-Isnt that truth. I have too. We agree then that smarts isnt everything. I know a couple of guys that make Jethro look like PhD. Those guys opened their own business and are quite sucessful.

Posted by: CAW | February 25, 2009, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Silky
And you actually have to read history books in order for you to realize that socialism/communism does not work.
Both have has also been responsible for the deaths of an estimated 100 million people in the last 100 years.

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

He could sell bazookas to Krishnas and make them feel good about their purchase.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | February 25, 2009, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

“There is always an exception to every rule. As for name calling(you calling me a moron) you demonstrate very little intellectual position. Name calling is the first response people have when they don’t have an answer”
And your QUACK QUACK comment that precipitated it?
Brian, you and I have different ideas of what constitutes smart. Again, I’ve met plenty of people with college educations who I would not consider smart. Hell, I live in Florida…home of the straight A idiot.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

The best part of the speech was watching pelosi doze off. is she really part of the government? democrats, where did u find this airhead??
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Pelosi was like a performing seal, jumping up and down clapping….

Posted by: Louisa | February 25, 2009, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Amy; You? Support Obama? Really? Don’t you feel naked having admitted it? You’re a shameless woman. I admire that.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | February 25, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

Anybody wanna finish my workday for me? I’d like to go home and pound Guinness and Jameson, eat Triscuits® and brie, and watch the return of Tiger Woods. In the name of Obama, hook a brother up!

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

“Pelosi was performing was like a seal”
-that’s pretty funny!

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

brian burkart
I guess you are right! People who make more money ARE smarter. In 2008, 52% of voters making over $200,000 a year voted for Obama.
http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/ExitPolls2008#Pres_All

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Tiger’s playing today? Finally, a piece of useful information! ;-)

Posted by: Watching in Amazement | February 25, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Tees off in less than an hour. Match play against the #64 ranked player in the world, Brendan something or other. Jason Sobel at ESPN is blogging from the driving range as Tiger’s warming up…lol…
http://proxy.espn.go.com/golf/columns/story?columnist=sobel_jason&page=liveblog

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

Tell Mr. Gingrich that a little levity in this serious situation is a good thing. He likes Biden and respects him and all of the people who work for him. Our last president worked for Cheny and K. Rove and anyone who was stronger than he was. Anyone who disagreed with him…was not around too long after that. Obama does not restrict criticism and that is a sign of a man who has confidence and knows himself.

Posted by: talmag | February 25, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Amy…that’s a poll…not a fact. Please be aware that they didn’t ask everyone making over $200,000…in fact I’d be surprised if they really talked to enough people making over $200,000 to get a true sampling. People that make that much money don’t take time to answer polls.

Posted by: Watching in Amazement | February 25, 2009, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

And the useful information keeps piling in:
“Tees off in less than an hour.”
Ah, that means I’ve got to go…priorities can be a funny thing!

Posted by: Watching in Amazement | February 25, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Curse you, Watching in Amazement!!! Tip one back for me.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

Concerning people with lots of money and no brains…how about ARod, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemons, Mark McGuire, Michael Phelps and LeBron James who can barely communicate. Speaking of athletes, why is it CEO’s get hammered for their exorbitant incomes but athletes get a free ride on that issue?

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | February 25, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Obama thought he knew who invented the automobile. That statement was part of a premise for concluding America can do anything. His premise was wrong but his conclusion may be true. Similarly the economic premise that literally dumping a trillion dollars into the economy will stimulate ‘economic growth’ is another faulty premise. It will definitely stimulate ‘monetary growth’. Obama urges you to be responsible citizens. Great! Then learn a bit more about economics. Learn how inflation is created. Learn about how wealth is created. (Google: how is inflation created) Some are saying, ‘We cannot spend our way into prosperity.’ Do you think this might be true? Obama is a passionate speaker, but can you be certain he’s taking us down the right path? Do you merely ‘hope’ so? I urge you, please educate yourselves rather than putting your faith in hope. Wisdom comes from knowledge, not hope.

Posted by: picomanning | February 25, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Talk is cheap – you can’t believe a word this guy says.
Obama is all schmoozing obfuscation meant to capture the imagination and fog the absence of substance! :(
Rhetoric may trump praxis for Obama but the rest of us want him to walk the talk!
Campaigning may capture imagination but it doesn’t seal the deal! :(

Posted by: aware2u | February 25, 2009, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Posted by: mm | Feb 25, 2009 11:05:48 AM
mm, you said; “I will explain that the CRA is the ‘Community Reinvestment Act’ which pressed banks to give loans to poor blacks. It was Clinton’s way of buying votes. Any banks who did not increase loans to the poor would be sued. Citigroup for example was sued because of this. It was a case titled Bucks-Renyolds vs Citigrop. And who was the trail attorney for the group claiming discimination? You guessed it… Barack Obama. LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER.”
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I am keenly interested in this type of “Political Slight-Of-Hand”, please provide the associated Link/s to Validate your charge. Thanks.

Posted by: bobj72 | February 25, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

I’m not saying it didn’t happen, but I’ve never heard of that. I’d like to see a link, too.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

Lighten up and pay attention dissenters. It’s only a little socialism here, a little there, a little capitalism over there. Seriously speaking, no tongue in cheek whatsoever…what if we come out of this confusion with a savory blend of the two? That doesn’t solve the complication of Keynesian economic principles but bottom line is our children will live in a world that is the only world they know and it will seem just right to them. Change is coming and there’s no resisting. Once the changes have been instituted there will be no turning back. Might as well take a window seat and enjoy the ride.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | February 25, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

What am I saying? Our children will live in the only world they know and they’ll want to change it. They will screw things up even worse than we have. Our founders came up with a near perfect plan. Every generation since has changed it to the point the original plan no longer works.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | February 25, 2009, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

The insurance companies are a multi trillion dollar annual profit industry in America. What are we going to do about their lobby? Sounds like from everything I’ve heard they get to keep their parasitic middleman position between consumers and providers. In fact our government will soon be feeding them with more and more insured citizens so they will become more and more profitable and powerful.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | February 25, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

I’ve been hearing the accusation of Obama giving legal representation on behalf of people or groups of people who filed suits against the lending industry for discrimination against minorities. Have been hearing accusations since last summer. It would be interesting to see some documentation.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | February 25, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

mmonroeliveson
You can sit by and “enjoy the ride” all you like. As for me and the rest of the anti-socialism crowd, we will go down swinging. I am not going to give my country, which has givenhuman beings the greatest prosperity and quality of life the world has ever known, over to the anti-American, liberal traitors without a fight.
Even as I type this, people all over the world are dying to try and enter the USA. I wonder how many are dying to enter france right now?
The republicans have lost their nerve and the democrats have lost their mind, true conservatives are the only ones who can save this country now.

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

mmonroeliveson
You can sit by and “enjoy the ride” all you like. As for me and the rest of the anti-socialism crowd, we will go down swinging. I am not going to give my country, which has givenhuman beings the greatest prosperity and quality of life the world has ever known, over to the liberal traitors without a fight.
Even as I type this, people all over the world are dying to try and enter the USA. I wonder how many are dying to enter france right now?
The republicans have lost lost their nerve and the democrats have lost their mind, conservatives are the only ones who can save this country now.

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

I’m dying to go to France!

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

“Even as I type this, people all over the world are dying to try and enter the USA.”
LOL. You’re funny.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

I’ll be going to France before long. Somebody talking smack of France speaks volumes about them. It’s very revealing.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

All you negative…people make me sick. What the… is your….plan? Bet you don’t even have a …solution? You all are so cruical and probably wouldn’t know what to do if you were in the presidents shoes. So shut the …up!!! With God’s help I hope he proves you all negative … wrong!!!!

Posted by: Olivia | February 25, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

I watched President Obama last night and yes I believe he is trying his best to repair the damage done by the GOP and the Bush administration. Where does the GOP get off trying to act like “financial experts” all of a sudden. If it weren’t for their backwards ideaology and stupidity we would not be in this mess. Now all of a sudden they know it all. This is just another of GOP distractions, they hope they can distract the nation so we don’t blame them for taking the nation to the brink of disaster. WRONG! Only a samll fraction of dummys refuse to acknowledge this mess is a result of the GOP “gaming the system” and Bush’ generous spending to enrich his friends and the corporations. The GOP policies are a nation for the rich, by the corporations and only for the wealthy.

Posted by: Ann Marie | February 25, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Silky, you are my fantasy lover, except for that professional golf thing.

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Heh.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Sorry, Amy. I played competitively from 8 years old through college. If it makes you feel any better, I was generally the only one in the tournament with long hair and a deep disdain for everything most of the people playing represented.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

“long hair and a deep disdain”
Ok, now I’m really excited.

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

It isn’t hard to realize where barry formed his dark views on America. He sat and listened to some of the most anti-American sermons for 20 years. He even called racist racist his mentor and he wrote a book titled after one of his speeches.
It is pretty obvious that we just elected rev wright, only with MUCH better marketing.

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm

I watched snipits of the speech but couldn’t stomach all the hot air that would come from the socialist love afair. I instead watched the History Channel. Obama said America invented the first car, actually, it was in Germany by Mercedes-Benz. Then again, Obama said we have 57 states and couldn’t remember what concentration camp his uncle was in. Of course, all Obama’s major increases in social spending programs made Queen Nancy jump up with joy I see. I find it hypocritical that Obama keeps putting more responsiblity to “no one messes with Joe” yet, they kept harping on Cheney for his power as VP! These people kill me! Obama and his minions will ruin this country, we are so doomed!

Posted by: justrighttoo | February 25, 2009, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Silky
I was just in france last year, you will love it!
-1/2 of your wages go to the gov’t to provide for all that excellent “free healthcare”.
-30-35 hour work weeks with 2 hour lunches.
The only problem with all of this “gov’t run utopia” is that the poor in france really are very bad off. They are actually skinny. Imagine a concept like that in America, skinny poor people!
In evil America, our “poor” people weigh 300+ lbs and smoke cigarettes while waiting in line for the food kitchens.
Also, becareful not to get involved in any of the many riots that France seems to be plagued with when the gov’t tries to increase the working hours in a week.
Good joke for you to tell while there….
How many frenchmen does it take to guard paris? No one knows, they have never tried!

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

Im back – Silky/Amy – been on here ALL day hey…
“I’ll be going to France before long. Somebody talking smack of France speaks volumes about them. It’s very revealing.”
Well my in-laws live in france and everything you just heard is true. they are a complete nanny state. nobody can work more then 35hrs a week – which means no overtime to buy any kind of luxury good i.e. cars, just making enough to get by.
I have also lived in England and paid A LOT in taxes every month to the so called ‘free’ health care, and then paid for private healthcare on top of it because you cant actually get treatment (some cancer patients wait months for their treatment).

Posted by: Louisa | February 25, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

“Im back – Silky/Amy – been on here ALL day hey…”
Off and on, yeah I spend all day at work on a computer.
“Well my in-laws live in france and everything you just heard is true. they are a complete nanny state. nobody can work more then 35hrs a week – which means no overtime to buy any kind of luxury good i.e. cars, just making enough to get by.”
What’s your point?

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

Louisa
The UK and France aren’t run by dictatorships. If the populace doesn’t want universal healthcare, they can vote to CHANGE the system. Same with Australia, Sweden, Denmark and Canada. Funny, I haven’t heard of any big movemements in those countries to do so.

Posted by: Amy | February 25, 2009, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm

Why don’t Amy and silky go run off to france and make little babies and charge them all to the gov’t? Why do you liberals insist on making America the next Cuba/France ect? Just move!
Please go live in one of these countries which you feel is so superior to USA (aka the wealthiest, most generous, most powerful, most desirable country to live in the history of the world).
How many people are floating on rafts to get to france these days? I hear the cubans would rather face drowning while attempting to come to the USA, then one more day of “free health care” in the utopian socialist system fidel has going.

Posted by: barryisasocialist | February 25, 2009, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

I love reading the comments of the far right-wing zealots that pretend to be Republicans destroy each other with shrill squeals of outrage, barely literate screeds against “Socialism” and “Fascism” (make up your mind, which is it?), attacking moderate Republicans, and revising history by pretending this crisis wasn’t entirely of their making.
I support your efforts to drum “RINOs” out of the party, anything you can do to marginalize your party and make it even more irrelevant is certainly welcome after the 8-year nightmare we’ve just been through. Keep up your efforts; as long as Palin and Jindal and Rush Dimbulb are the face of your party, your congressional power will continue to deteriorate and you won’t win the executive branch for another 20 years.

Posted by: Jet City Libertarian | February 25, 2009, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

Hope is back? Really? Someone should tell the Wall Street brokers that hope is back – somehow, they didn’t get the memo.

Posted by: Copy and Paste | February 25, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm

Man, you need some help. Someday I might want to live in France, but this is my home, thanks.

Posted by: silky | February 25, 2009, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm

I fell asleep during his speech. But what I did hear didn’t seem to have any substance or plan to me. Clear as mud. Can someone explain what he said & how it will get the economy back on track?

Posted by: from Ohio | February 25, 2009, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm

One thing is for sure President Obama did not ceate this mess and he has to help the economy. I would like to hear a few of your suggestions as to if you were the President where would you start? I love my country and I support My President.

Posted by: Tara Wilson | February 26, 2009, 5:24 am 5:24 am

Posted by: from Ohio | Feb 25, 2009 9:19:21 PM
“I fell asleep during his speech. But what I did hear didn’t seem to have any substance or plan to me. Clear as mud. Can someone explain what he said & how it will get the economy back on track?”
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You can remain in your slumber. You may be awakened as we navigate our way around the ‘Big Obstacles’ that impede our path!

Posted by: bobj72 | February 26, 2009, 8:04 am 8:04 am

It will not matter. There are no checks and balances, not debate in either the house or the senate.
Moving left has never been this easy. But lets not forget about the 46 some odd million that voted against Obama. There needs to be discussion and it is not happening with Team Obama. Which is a big failure.
And to pretend to put Rush L out there as the voice of the conservatives is an old tactic.
It use to be called deception and bad politics but now it is seen as sincere politics as we have taken people to the next level of thinking it must be done.
I can’t wait till it turns back hard right. Maybe we will then be at the center. I think we are creating an atmosphere for radicalism on both sides.
Which could be a bad or good thing. Just depends on how open a society we
really are…
Obama didn’t create it but with his Gargantua budget packages developed by the appropriators and not by Obama, he has surpasses the 8 years of debt of Bush in less than 40 days in office. More pork than ever and two wrongs do no make a right. No earmarks and now we have more than ever.
Reshape it while you can, do it early, and do it often so peeps won’t be able to derail the train till later.
We are not going to be out of Iraq ever.
His letter to Russia was misunderstood??
Blah blah blah. He has broke more promises in his few days as a president than any president on record…

Posted by: Detter | March 4, 2009, 11:38 am 11:38 am

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