By Caitlin Taylor

Mar 6, 2009 10:14am

Boehner: Time for Government Spending Freeze

ABC News’ Rick Klein Reports: House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, reacted to the rise in unemployment today by calling for a federal government spending freeze. “Washington Democrats seem more determined than ever to continue pursuing tax hikes and pork-barrel spending increases that are only proving to make matters worse,” said Boehner, R-Ohio, in a statement. “President Obama campaigned against wasteful spending last year and has renewed commitment to fight it now that he is in office.  I hope he will follow through on that promise by vetoing this legislation if it passes the Senate and working with House Republicans to enact a spending freeze for the remainder of this fiscal year.” The move come as Senate Democrats scramble to find the votes to pass a $410 billion spending bill to cover federal expenditures through the rest of this fiscal year. The bill increases so-called “discretionary” spending by about 8 percent — and includes some 8,500 earmarked special projects inserted by lawmakers. The president has said he will sign the bill regardless of criticisms from Republicans and some Democrats. But it’s developing into yet another rallying point for an opposition party that’s finding its way to a new identity under the Obama administration.

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8500 pork spending earmarks.
“President Obama campaigned against wasteful spending last year and has renewed commitment to fight it now that he is in office.”
Your lead Mr. President. We all know what you said. What will you do? Live up to your word? Or be known as a liar?
Your lead.

Posted by: Brant | March 6, 2009, 10:26 am 10:26 am

I read that of the 9000 (or is it 8000) earmarks in the bill, 60% were put in by Democrats, and 40% were put in by Republicans. Since the ratio of Democrats to Republicans in the House and Senate is roughly 60/40, doesn’t that mean that Boehners Republicans are just as responsible for the spending? I’m just wondering….

Posted by: Steve From NH | March 6, 2009, 10:26 am 10:26 am

harsh spending cuts during a deep recession. Why not? Sure it was a disaster in the 30′s and mainstream economists agree it is a stupid idea, but what a great slogan for 2010! It’ll play even better than when they lambasted Clinton’s attempt to kill that Bin Laden guy as “Monica Missiles” – boy, that was a great soundbite and made sure Clinton never tried that again.

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 10:29 am 10:29 am

What an Ass.

Posted by: Thinking | March 6, 2009, 10:30 am 10:30 am

How long before the Obama appologists show up bashing this guy because he is a republican and said something logical. Cue the hatred.

Posted by: Dave | March 6, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Brant:”Your lead Mr. President. We all know what you said. What will you do? Live up to your word? Or be known as a liar?”
He’ll only be known as a liar by the 30% of hardcore Republicans who thought Bush was doing a good job and interpret monitoring active volcanos near major US population centers and common flightpaths as wasteful spending. I don’t think he’s too worried by your disingenuous threat to hate and not respect him even more.

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Dave:”How long before the Obama appologists show up bashing this guy because he is a republican and said something logical. ”
Based on the historical record and well documented economic opinions everyone just hashed out during the long month of stimulus debate – how is drastically cutting government spending logical? They are just trying to get a redo on the stimulus, gutting normal budget funding to ensure the stimulus fails.
That is the logical intrepretation. Perhaps you can explain the logic of passing a Keynsian stimulus one month and then the next month gutting the budget. Please, what is the logic in that other than petulantly trying to undo the stimulus passed by a supermajority of representatives?

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Grandstanding at its finest . I also did the math and yes the GOP had its hand in this bill. They want to act like they don’t participate in the pork but they surely do and then scream “pork” when it will get them on TV. I hope we can someday look back on this and see how really silly this has become. I say go forward bite the bullet and take no crap from the right.If we are wrong at least we were not whining and bitching about tax cuts.

Posted by: Bonnie Kimberly | March 6, 2009, 10:42 am 10:42 am

jhw
It is probably worthless to respond to you types…but it’s worth a try.
Where in my post did you find anything that suggested I “hated” the President?
The President said what he said. The Bill is full of what it is. Why the accusations of any discussion against it being hateful?

Posted by: Brant | March 6, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Now they listen to Ron Paul, but it is too late. The republicans had their chance. Now we go down in an orgy of spending.

Posted by: Huh | March 6, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am

Time to get rid of the liberal socialist idiot Obama. Impeach Obama now.

Posted by: Sluggo | March 6, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am

jhw
Another thing. Is it possible, in your mind, to be a conservative that voted for Obama? Based on what he campaigned on of course to convince us he was better to handle the economy.
Can 52% of the voting populus consist of conservatives?

Posted by: Brant | March 6, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Based on the historical record and well documented economic opinions everyone just hashed out during the long month of stimulus debate -
Does anyone remember when this happened?
Not me.
What I remember … Pelosi, Frank and the Democrats — “We Won” — deciding what would be in the stimulus without including the other party. They voted in the house and got it passed because they didn’t need ANY and I repeat ANY support from Republicans. Then they passed a bigger document page wise in the Senate that no one READ and the last “yea” vote came from a guy they had to fly back in from his mother’s wake and who also hadn’t read it ….
Is this what you think passes for debate?
Please.

Posted by: beebop | March 6, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am

this is coming from the party that got us into this mess! Ignore any and all republicans!

Posted by: cjr | March 6, 2009, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Brant:”The President said what he said. The Bill is full of what it is. Why the accusations of any discussion against it being hateful?”
For reference, you said:
“Your lead Mr. President. We all know what you said. What will you do? Live up to your word? Or be known as a liar?
Your lead.”
You inferred that he was breaking his promise. Yet you don’t cite his promise in HIS WORDS, preferring to infer use a common negative formulation (we know what you said/did). Then you proceed to aggressively challenge him, are you a liar or not, after setting up this negative allusion.
Propaganda isn’t that hard to spot. You’re a natural at it. Discussion about Obama’s policy positions are NOT at all hateful. The underhanded attack you made followed with your disingenuous “what did I do?” wide-eyed innocent look is. Feel free to post Obama’s promise IN HIS OWN WORDS, not a headline from a talking head, if you honestly believe your comment was not clearly a negative attack.

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am

this is coming from the party that got us into this mess! Ignore any and all republicans!
I know that you weren’t paying attention until The One was running for office, but here’s a newsflash …. the Dems were in control of the congress for the past two years … so the republicans were not the only ones who got us into this mess …. just an FYI for you there snooks.

Posted by: beebop | March 6, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am

The GOP Taliban just isn’t going to be happy until this country is in cinders. They are doing everything within their power to destroy us. I think Wall Street would be doing better if it wasn’t for the negativism of the GOP and its efforts to undermine Obama at every turn.
It amazes me that their prescription for recovery is to do “NOTHING”. The same mentality they used to drive the bus into the economic ditch. Inside ever Republican is a little Hoover waiting to get out and start a depression.

Posted by: J Johnson | March 6, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Someone please tell me that the Republicans don’t honestly believe what they’re spouting off about. This is analogous to curing someone’s snoring problem by strangling them to death.
At this point, the arguements about “wasteful spending” are entirely moot. We are all to blame for what we’re dealing with, and the only way out is by putting money into the system in the hope of kick-starting spending and credit flow. Is it a perfect solution? Hardly, and it scares me to think of it not working, which is possible, I grant. However, grandstanding and obstructing just to score political points and playing a cynical strategy in this climate is deplorable. And attempting to place this at Obama’s feet when he’s been in office less than two months is ridiculous.
Until the Republicans get some ideas and real leadership, until they actually do want to solve problems rather than getting back power they ably squandered, they will be doomed to minority status for years to come, as people want to feel that the government is trying to do something rather than doing nothing at all.

Posted by: stealth | March 6, 2009, 10:59 am 10:59 am

beebop:”What I remember … Pelosi, Frank and the Democrats — “We Won” — deciding what would be in the stimulus without including the other party.”
FACT: The stimulus includes admendements WRITTEN BY REPUBLICANS.
FACT: Birth control funding was pulled at the explict request of Republicans.
FACT: The national mall renovation was pulled at the explicit request of Republicans.
FACT: Aid to states was cut to make way for a Republican-championed $70 billion Alternative Minimum Tax cut (benefiting primarily those making over $60k-$200k a year) – that’s almost 10% of the bill’s total cost.
FACT: Beebop’s memory has ZERO credibility when hysterically ranting Republicans were not included.

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 10:59 am 10:59 am

stealth:”Someone please tell me that the Republicans don’t honestly believe what they’re spouting off about. ”
The fact that on average each Republican representative put in the same amount of money in earmarks is pretty good proof that this is just sloganeering for the next election.

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 11:01 am 11:01 am

40% of this bill is GOP pork, and it is a bill they worked on LAST YEAR , how does that equal an Obama spending bill. It seems to me history is being re-written as we speak. And I think given the mental state of some of the folks on the right we do have a real problem with seeing things as they really are. We have to have the back and forth of a two party system in order for America to work. We can not scream and carry on when the people in Washington are actually doing their job. However I do wish they would stop with the sound bite asides we see in the news. Fight it out and hammer out a plan and vote on it and stop all this other aside remarks for TV stuff.

Posted by: Bonnie Kimberly | March 6, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am

jhw539 … you can’t stand the truth, can you buddy?
That is why you lie about the pork he swore he would cut and knowingly twist facts about MONTHS OF DEBATE. Don’t answer questions. I really don’t care. You’re just one more deluded 0pologist. That doesn’t change reality one whit. Look ‘whit’ up. At least you’ll learn something today. Maybe something useful.
I am so happy that you are pleased with your vote.
Lots and lots and lots of us are starting — RIGHT NOW — to see that he is just one more one term Democrap(sic).

Posted by: beebop | March 6, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am

Brant:” Is it possible, in your mind, to be a conservative that voted for Obama? ”
Certainly, seeing as how there are at least a half dozen legitimate definitions of conservatives and the Republican party only fits a few of them at the moment. But if you want to use the real definitions rather than however the propaganda has pushed the label this week, both the candidates were liberal (promising a significant change from the status quo and past practices).

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am

beebop:”jhw539 … you can’t stand the truth, can you buddy?”
Can you refute any of the facts I posted that indicate your statements are fundamentally untrustworthy or not?

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am

I am sick of hearing it. I am sick of arguing about it. I have heard it from the GOP since Nixon. Same crap, same results.

Posted by: Thinking | March 6, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Let the GOP Taliban sink into the morass created by 8 years of Bush and now being led by Mullah al Sadr Limbaugh. I have never seen people with such learning difficulties in my entire life. Every time they open their collective mouths, Obama goes up a few points in the polls. Geese, Ray Charles could see the failure of their ways. How many times do you have to tell someone if they put their hand on the stove they will get burned? These people are just plain stupid.

Posted by: J Johnson | March 6, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am

J Johnson:” These people are just plain stupid.”
Don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. The GOP is currently in the final stages of a fling with religious fundamentalists. In the 90′s, they proved they can be a very valuable opposition. They just need to finish buring out the radical liberal leadership.
Creating Homeland security, the Patriot act, with us or against us, slashing taxes below the level of any modern economy in the world, single handledly building a democracy in the middle east – these are NOT conservative by any definition, and neither is the GOP.

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am

Freeze On Goverment Spending hahahah lololololol Where Was this Fool when Bush And Republicans SPENT SPENT SPENT? The Problem With Republicans Is the Money is Being Spent HERE IN USA Not in Iraq or Big Oil or Wall St the Republicans Aint Having it!

Posted by: Angie in PA | March 6, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am

This is an incredibly reckless and out of touch statement from the GOP. Spending freeze? And how are jobs supposed to be created?
http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | March 6, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am

A new identity? It sounds like more of the same garbage we rejected last November. You’ll notice how Boner and the rest of these clowns are now releasing statements to avoid answering questions about their leader. Weak! This is not Obama’s bill but the Repugs are just using this to get attention away from this entire week of comedy. Like McCain and his fake outrage. Maybe if he could get the Repugs to remove all of theirs people would be more impressed. But to call out the President and not his own party if more sour grapes because he got his ass kicked by Obama. I love! Republicans will get slaughtered again in 2010. I can’t wait!

Posted by: roxsteady | March 6, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am

I agree with Boehner. If we freeze government spending, we’ll have the resources for other, more important things. Like getting to the bottom of President Obama’s birth records and deciding whether Terry Schiavo should remain on life support.

Posted by: Gooofy | March 6, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am

jhw
Sorry if I don’t have the time to google all of Obama’s transcripts from campaigning through today. He talked very negatively about pork spending and I’m sure you know it. Infact, he held some sort of a fiscal summit a few weeks ago and I remember it there too.
I don’t understand what you mean by propaganda. I hear what Obama says in the news and read it on the web, like here. Then we see what he does. If the two don’t match up, how is that “propaganda”?
I can, however, see it being propaganda if I speak out about the pork spending and someone chimes in and says ‘move along, nothing to see here’.
I get it. You voted for Obama. Me too. Difference being that I don’t tolerate waste no matter who does it, especially when they make such a point to cut it.

Posted by: Brant | March 6, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am

your refund checks are going to be a box of government office supplies and old public announcement posters. If your lucky it might be a spiffy new logo, the one with the 25% machine 25% farm and 50% government.

Posted by: tirekicker | March 6, 2009, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Obama Daily Tracking Poll
Down again.

Posted by: Justin | March 6, 2009, 11:38 am 11:38 am

So says John Boehner, who has insisted that Republican staffing levels in Congress remain at the same levels despite losing a number of House and Senate seats. Instead he wants the same number of staff as the Dems despite fewer representatives.

Posted by: Ordermonger | March 6, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Boehner is a boner.. Plain and simple.

Posted by: jack | March 6, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Or maybe Boehner decided this was a great idea when you know…OBAMA DID IT FOR THE WHITE HOUSE STAFF.

Posted by: Ordermonger | March 6, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am

If out-of-control spending didn’t bother Boner for the last 8 years……….he should shut up, now. Just shut up and sit down, John. Real Americans are busy cleaning up your mess!

Posted by: Sammy | March 6, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am

That is the STUPIDEST thing I have heard in a long time. The problem right now is that we are NOT spending the way we should be doing thus the economy is going down.
The government is the last resort in terms of spending and that is EXACTLY what we should be doing right now.

Posted by: Sara | March 6, 2009, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Obama Daily Tracking Poll
Down again.
Posted by: Justin | Mar 6, 2009 11:38:56 AM
=================================
Sounds like you’ve had a
limbotamy.
How convenient. Get your talking points and your leadership from the same source.

Posted by: Omentum | March 6, 2009, 11:49 am 11:49 am

We can’t say that it is a stunt to want to freeze spending. There were many opposed to the bailouts when Bush first pushed it, the democrtic controlled congress passed it and 78 billion of 350 billion was promptly wasted. If we as earners and consumers are cutting our spending while the Government increases it then what darn good have we done? Today Obama is touting 25 jobs for policemen but is anyone asking how much those jobs cost each of us.
A hiring- spending freeze at state and federal levels a massive tax cut for everyone who pays taxes would allow people to buy cars, pay home mortgages and buy health insurance.
It just seems everything is being done backasswards.

Posted by: david | March 6, 2009, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Brant: “I don’t understand what you mean by propaganda.”
Your entire first post was formulated to convey an established opinion and persuade others to agree to it. I don’t have a problem with that. I had a problem with your “What did I do?” shocked response when I acknowledged the clear bias of your comment.
“I get it. You voted for Obama. Me too. Difference being that I don’t tolerate waste no matter who does it,”
I just don’t understand this. McCain was 100%, clearly the candidate against waste. MCCAIN actually did explicitly promise to veto earmarks (Obama NEVER did so, even when challenged point blank to meet McCain’s pledge). I am boggled that you appeared to flat out vote for the wrong candidate. I have a few friends who while quite liberal socially voted McCain strictly because he was the strongest anti-waste politician they had seen in their lives. Seriously – earmarks are this important to you and you voted Obama over McCain I will “veto every earmark pork-barrel bill”?
And yes, I voted Obama. At this point, I support his policies and I don’t have a problem acknowledging my objective in posting is somewhat to persuade.

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Again. The Repulican Senators held 100 cloture filibusters or threat to and 39 threats of veto by President Bush during the so called majority held by the Democrates after the 2006 elections. Hundreds of wasted days but still got paid and free health care benefits. At least be honest when talking about majority anything.

Posted by: KiwiTricia | March 6, 2009, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Indeed – let’s all just freeze in our spot — that’ll fix everything. Idiots.

Posted by: hang | March 6, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Seems like the stock markets are a better benchmark for how the country is viewing all the spending being done by the Democrat controlled House & Senate. The markets have taken the biggest hits since the Clinton era of spend-a-thons. Why is the faith of everyday Americans being quashed by the socialists that are now in power? If panic reins then they will surely be able to say what BHO said last fall,” that there will be changes made that America doesn’t agree with…” He gave us a heads up and some of us didn’t listen to the projected outcomes of his actions and his presidency.God Save America & God Bless Her Troops.

Posted by: Born in America | March 6, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm

KiwiTricia:”The Repulican Senators held 100 cloture filibusters or threat to and 39 threats of veto by President Bush during the so called majority held by the Democrates after the 2006 elections.”
You make it sound like that is four times as many filibusters as in the entire 19th century combined, or double the number the Democrats used to try to thwart President Bush. Oh wait – it is.
Republicans are getting their reputation as obstructionists the old fashioned way – they are earning it.

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

THis is all that OBAMAUNIST’s fault!
FIrst they socialized safety with the Police, then fire prevention with the firemans, and then sewerage with the sewer system, and then electricity with the electrical utility, and then national security with the army, and then cancer and disease research with the CDCs, and then uh,
What was the question

Posted by: Inbredbucktoothharelip | March 6, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

I’m game. (For the spending freeze.)
Spending trillions doesn’t seem to help. Infact, quite the opposite. Huge number of jobs lost again, highest unemployment, dow down again….

Posted by: Freckles | March 6, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

I say we need a freeze on consuming copious amounts of hard liquor while the house is in order……wouldn’t it be great to watch the Boner suffer through the D.T.s?

Posted by: Earl | March 6, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

YOu willa ll see what happens when the socialistic policies of the NOT AMERICAN Presdunce OBummer ruin our country!
Nah, I’m just kidding. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to think that our current problems are not the direct result of the ignorant, self-interested policies that the GOP has been pushing since the early 1980s? Boehner has no idea what to do, no power to change or shape the debate, and can sit on the sidelines trying to lob inflammatory populist nonsense like this into the mix. He’s a waste of space, to be honest, and he oversaw the defeat of his party. Why they’ve not run him out of town on a rail is the real question. The answer is, because there is a leadership vacuum in the GOP that’s about to become a blackhole, sucking them all to hell, like in that movie “Event Horizon.”

Posted by: OfficerDoofy | March 6, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

YOu willa ll see what happens when the socialistic policies of the NOT AMERICAN Presdunce OBummer ruin our country!
Nah, I’m just kidding. Seriously, how stupid do you have to be to think that our current problems are not the direct result of the ignorant, self-interested policies that the GOP has been pushing since the early 1980s? Boehner has no idea what to do, no power to change or shape the debate, and can sit on the sidelines trying to lob inflammatory populist nonsense like this into the mix. He’s a waste of space, to be honest, and he oversaw the defeat of his party. Why they’ve not run him out of town on a rail is the real question. The answer is, because there is a leadership vacuum in the GOP that’s about to become a blackhole, sucking them all to hell, like in that movie “Event Horizon.”

Posted by: OfficerDoofy | March 6, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm

NO PORK ON EITHER SIDE.DOES NOT MATTER WHAT SIDE YOUR ON. SPENDING FREEZE IS A GOOD IDEA .THE ONLY THING THEY SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT IS JUST THE ECONOMY AT THIS TIME NOTHING ELSE.

Posted by: natale from mass. | March 6, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

brant ,jhw is (like too many republicans ) 110% sure of his “facts”.
unfortunately for jhw , democrats/liberals don’t have a stranglehold on the truth .
we ,as democratic taxpayers ,should be objectively dissecting everything this administration does ,and subsequently evaluating/grading it’s performance just as harshly and severely as we would if there were a republican majority calling the shots in washington dc..
in that capacity,i.e. an inquiring and concerned american voter/taxpayer , i would say that there is definitely some excess pork in the stimulus bill ( which is personally ok with me as long as the richest 2% pay for it ) but to vehemently argue that there is no/little pork tacked onto the stimulus package or that the status quo earmarking is inconsequential (just because jhw says so), makes me wonder if the elephant in the room is invisible to some people ,or just convenient to ignore.
jhw ,liberals need credibility ,and your comments aren’t helping.
the democratic party ,like all political parties ,needs some reasonable introspection at times ,and with pelosi/reid at the helm with their hands (too much i think ,personally) on the wheel ,i am not as confident of actually achieving the aforementioned genuine/effective party introspection, as well as the obama campaign promises of a more transparent and bipartisan governmental process as i could be.
in a nutshell, i am a happy liberal because obama personally is doing a great majority the things i like and approve of ,but i find it hard to defend some of the other democratic career politicians in office ,some of whom are definitely guilty of unneeded/ unhelpful partisanship at this most critical time in this nations’ history.
COME TOGETHER…RIGHT NOW!!

Posted by: ricky dean the dream | March 6, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

Johnny is little more than a crybaby obstructionist mannequin who probably spends more on his tan than the budget could ever allow for. Republicans are so afraid Obama will succeed because they know they’ll end up as the permanent minority.

Posted by: pc | March 6, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

RICKY DEAN THE DREAM YOUR IN A DREAM WORLD AND ITS ABOUT TO TURN INTO A NIGHTMARE GOOD LUCK WITH THE LIBERALS IT WILL NEVER WORK. DONT THINK IN THE BOX ALWAYS THINK OUT OF THE BOX.

Posted by: natale from mass. | March 6, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

the
Omnibus bill is 410 billion with 8,750 earmarks… equaling 7.7 billion
Obama promised earmarks would be done differently and they would be “less” back to what they were in 1994 which was 7.8 billion.
Firstly, this Bill was put together last Dec. by both Dems and Reps…
next…
2006 while still under Republican Congress, their bill had 29 billion in earmarks.
In this spending bill
57 Democrats are responsible for
677 million and
40 Republicans are responsible for another 669 million…
It is a myth that Republicans are more fiscally conservative.
They just prefer to divert our attention away from themselves so we may not notice they spend just as much…

Posted by: theafalcon200 | March 6, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

ricky dean the dream:”to vehemently argue that there is no/little pork tacked onto the stimulus package or that the status quo earmarking is inconsequential (just because jhw says so)”
Just because I say so? Cute how you ignore my cited reasoning and rationale and prefer just a personal attack.
Would you care to offer any actual facts to the debate, or just continue to slander me? Does it make sense to cut spending after the need for radically increased government spending was just accepted by a super majority? And rather than sloganeering about pork, how about discussing the actual wasteful spending?
“jhw ,liberals need credibility ,and your comments aren’t helping.”
If posting my actual facts and rationale for my opinion harms credibility, then I am obviously not talking to you.

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

ricky dean the dream:”(just because jhw says so)”
Do you have any comment regarding my clearly stated rationale or have I misstated a fact? Feel free to insult me, but I don’t really see how that’s contributing anything useful.

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

natale , i prefer critical and unbiased objectivity first , creativity second.
thinking outside the box is fine and sometimes quite useful and effective ,but generally only if you have the perspective en total in focus at the same time.
watch more c-span and read/watch all you can thats even slightly relevant from rush/fox to chavez/castro . attempt to create in yourself an educated ,informed ,objective opinion with empirical facts as your sword/shield ,not rhetoric and hyperbole and you will be better prepared for your intellectual forays “outside the box”…

Posted by: ricky dean the dream | March 6, 2009, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

Why didn’t this bloated politician talk about a spending freeze at any time in the past 8 years while this whole mess was fermenting. Or while we were spending billions we didn’t have everyday in the pointless war on Iraq? He, and his opinion, are not credible or relevant. Quit giving him face time.

Posted by: DaveM | March 6, 2009, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

The media has documented that the more that the Republicans bash the president, the more their public ratings go lower. The same is happening each time that they criticize the stimulus package. Apparently the public sees them as the crybabies and obstructionists that they are. It will be a long time before the public forgets that it was the Republican policies that got the country into this financial mess.

Posted by: redrockraven | March 6, 2009, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

jhw ,the facts are what they are. you can either accept or deny them. in one instance , you are being true to yourself and the facts at hand , in the other you are misleading yourself for whatever reason ,internal or external.
i wont try to make a horse drink water ,but i will lead it to the waterhole if i can.
i am happy for you and your blissful acceptance of your own “facts” but am less forgiving when you proselytize to the masses with little or no acceptance of the empirical evidence at hand ; unfortunately that kind of blatantly partisan bias makes you less than 100% believable/credible ,sorry.
in short, rant all you like with all the bias possible ,if doesnt really affect me personally ,but dont be too surprised if you look in the mirror one day and find that you have become exactly what you hated for 8 long desperate years.

Posted by: ricky dean the drean | March 6, 2009, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Obama Daily Tracking Poll
still dropping.

Posted by: Justin | March 6, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

justin wrote: Obama Daily Tracking Poll
still dropping.
But will never be as low as your I.Q.

Posted by: Josh | March 6, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

ricky dean the drean:”jhw ,the facts are what they are. you can either accept or deny them. in one instance , you are being true to yourself and the facts at hand , in the other you are misleading yourself for whatever reason ,internal or external.
i wont try to make a horse drink water ,but i will lead it to the waterhole if i can.”
You have offered NO FACTS. No rationale. Just rambling opinion. I stated facts, and I accept those facts. They are indeed what they are.
“natale , i prefer critical and unbiased objectivity first , creativity second.”
Great. Do you like Coke or Pepsi? That’s about as relevant to the debate. Do you offer any reasoning to support your opinions (it is quite simple to read your posts and find you have not offered even one fact)? Or just mock me for posting facts and the logic that supports my opinion?

Posted by: jhw539 | March 6, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

…”The bill increases so-called “discretionary” spending by about 8 percent — and includes some 8,500 earmarked special projects inserted by lawmakers.”
jhw…this ^^^ is called pork (by everyone except you evidently) and its a reported 8 percent increase over the previous (very porky) bush administration.
would you care to comment? i mean as far as pork = wasteful spending of taxpayer dollars?
see , i am not arguing there is no pork or that i dont approve of it. in fact , i DO approve of it .
i just dont approve of people trying to whitewash the obviously overtly democratic/liberal earmarking in this stimulus package. it is what it is ,be a liberal and happily accpet it ,flaunt it,use it to taunt and irritate conservatives but please ,for the sake of your own credibility dont attempt to ignore or refute what is blatantly obvious to anyone who is not on “kool aid” (as the repubs like to say)
btw jhw ,i never saw any posted references to your assertion that republicans put in “X” amount of earmarks on this bill.
do you have some printed facts and figures to back your stated position up , or is it just something that you decided “sounded right” to you personally? i mean , i would like to believe you ,but i do run on facts in my world.

Posted by: ricky dean the dream | March 6, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

“…8,500 earmarked special projects inserted by lawmakers.” ”
umm which lawmakers would they be referring to jhw?
democrats or republicans? i mean someone put 8500 earmarks on this bill ,and there is a “supermajority” of democrats running the show (at least according to jhw statistics ) ,so it would seem that most likely the DEMOCRATS are probably MOSTLY RESPONSIBLE for the earmarks.
(that would be the occams razor solution .i.e. the most obvious.)
or are you contending that the minority republicans stuffed all their wishlist earmarks onto this bill while nancy and harry sat quietly and did nothing?

Posted by: ricky dean the dream | March 6, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

The people in Ohio need to wake up and kick bums like him out. He is one of the reasons for the mess were in, these guys should be tried for treason.

Posted by: jay | March 6, 2009, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

OK Justin. Stop with “Obama tracking poll still dropping.
Go here:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history
The approval trend is up. That’s spelled “up” and it means “the opposite of down” or “not dropping” so please shut up. Thank you.

Posted by: Rassmussen | March 6, 2009, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

Boehner: Time for Government Spending Freeze
this is not a spending cut. re-read ,use dictionary if needed.

Posted by: james | March 6, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

How have “conservatives” and “‘R’ebuclicans” reached this frenzied state of cognitive dissonance? I feel like I am living in a totally different reality than that of hardcore conservatives. How long can you all vote against your own interests until you realize it only profits the people that never cared about your lives?

Posted by: Aaron | March 6, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Don’t you liberal apologists keep up with what Obama says?????
Obama, your hero, called the dow, the stock market, a political tracking poll.
His words, not mine.
So the Obama Daily Tracking Poll is down and falling again.
Hello, Rassmussen, that means you!

Posted by: Justin | March 6, 2009, 2:36 pm 2:36 pm

gop=the sky is falling, doom and
gloom,the usa is going to end,
why didn’t they speak up when
billions were and are going to
iraq for a good example of money
down a rathole……for nothing.

Posted by: Eldon | March 6, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm

Republicans are a bunch of immature, irresponsible whiners. Republicans made a mess of the U.S. and now they stand in the way of the real Americans who are trying to repair their damage. Republicans should get over themselves. You lost the election. Get used to the idea you are no longer driving.
After Bush’s 8-year failed Fascist Dictatorship, we have nothing to lose by trying Socialism. Afterall, Republicans economic theories have proven to be “dreck.” Their “theories” are all a ruse for making the rich richer. It’s about time we get back the money the theivies have stolen over the last 8 years. Tax the rich until they become real Americans!

Posted by: Sammy | March 6, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Republican members of Congress have added their share of “pork” or “earmarks” whatever you want to call them. Mitch McConnell (KY) said that the 53 earmarks for Kentucky ($78,000,000) were added last year. Kyle said that the 9 he added had already been approved before ($25,000,000). The contingent from Texas were reported to have added around $200,000,000 worth. Republicans and Democrats have contributed to that.
Ensign from Nevada said that earmarks are the way smaller states can get their share of federal dollars.
President Obama said he was going to work at getting this changed. We’ve discovered in the last two months that there is a terrific amount of inertia in Washington and it takes more effort to get things moving than one would ordinarily think.
Calling for a halt to government spending is not going to get things moving.

Posted by: George | March 6, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

McConnell (KY), Kyle (AZ), Ensign (NV), Cornyn (TX), etc. have all spoken against the passage of the spending bill before Congress because of the “earmarks”. Interesting!

Posted by: George | March 6, 2009, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm

Some of the blogs on here from Republicans border on lunacy to the point where medication is needed. There IS a world outside of their tiny hostile little conservative reality; a world of optimism and hope, even after the past eight years. I’m sorry you folks are so angry. Try to channel it into something productive.

Posted by: DaveM | March 6, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Boehner is a red-faced “NO” man when it’s convenient for him. WHERE WAS THIS MO………. FOR THE PAST 8 YEARS? Not a bleeping word!!!!!Didn’t Know who he was, except those out of his district, or state. Did he stand up against the “wrong” war, did he stand up when the Constitution was being trampled on. Did he stand up to the the conruption in this Administration, Wall Street, Lenders, torture, and wiretaps. HE IS THE PROBLEM. So the “phoney” wants to stop now….well, the American people are in trouble, and this President is doing all he can to right this sinking ship that was created by Boehner and his party.

Posted by: sngeorgia | March 6, 2009, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

It blows my mind that Republicans “decry” the earmarks when 40% of them came from Republicans. Talk about a credibility problem for them. Just one more step toward irrelevance…

Posted by: DaveM | March 6, 2009, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm

The Justin douchenozzle needs to give it a rest. The context for the President’s comments, you execrable moron, were that tracking polls don’t mean much. What matters, you half-witted butt-pumpkin, is the long term. So, in the President’s analogy, you idiot step-child lost in the dark, the DOW doesn’t affect strategic decisions. And, it would seem, the actually tracking polls indicate a highly favorable political environment for the President and a hostile one for the GOP, you gibbering, deformed monkey-boy.

Posted by: Jeebus | March 6, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

Boehner: Time for Government Spending Freeze
Good idea.

Posted by: damit janet | March 6, 2009, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm

If I didn’t know better I’d think BO is exploiting this decession to get all his socialist programs up and running before we rebound. Once they’re in they’re in there’s no turning back until the entitlements finally tip the ship over.

Posted by: damit janet | March 6, 2009, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

I am prepared to say the one thing that Rush would not. I want this Socialist to fail!!! is that clear enough for you? The Constitution gives no allowance for handouts to the “Whiners” and “losers” in this country. It gives you the pursuit of happiness. Work for what you get and be free!! The dirty little secret about Freedom is …….your on your own. If the Government is in your life you are not free. I know it and you also know it deep down even if you don’t admit it aloud.
God Bless you and God Bless America!

Posted by: JimOnTheRight | March 6, 2009, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm

I read that of the 9000 (or is it 8000) earmarks in the bill, 60% were put in by Democrats, and 40% were put in by Republicans. Since the ratio of Democrats to Republicans in the House and Senate is roughly 60/40, doesn’t that mean that Boehners Republicans are just as responsible for the spending? I’m just wondering….
Posted by: Steve From NH
_______________
You are right Steve! They are all crooks! Now tune in to Glenn Beck on Fox news @ 5:00 pm est. He is for the Constitution and for common sense!

Posted by: JimOnTheRight | March 6, 2009, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm

I usually back Republican, but if I hear any politician calling for a spending freeze, Republican, Democrat or lizard I will support them. Stop the bleeding now. I say support these folks that got laid off with unemployment till they get back to work. That is something I can get behind. Cut those taxes and small business will build this country back to its great free stature! Who is with me? We the people can do it. We do not need Washington.
God Bless us all ……

Posted by: JimOnTheRight | March 6, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm

God, please save America from the Republican Party.

Posted by: Steve from Danville | March 6, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm

I would like just one of you people who champion “spending freeze” as a needed solution toward solving this financial crisis. Let me start from the top ones in the news. BOA instituted a spending freeze, Citi bank did the same, AIG also, GM, Chrysler, GE, Sears Holding, Broadcom, International Game Technology, Catepillar, Eastman Kodak, Textron, Ford, Black & Decker, Walt Disney, Starbucks, Target, Time Warner, Texas Instruments, IBM, Microsoft, International, Sprint Nextel, Pfizer, Home Depot, Abercrombie & Fitch, Harley Davidson, UAL, SPX, Wynn Resorts, Clear Channel, Deere & Co. …..the list goes on and on. What do all of these companies have in common? They all instituted SPENDING FREEZES and just what did that lead to? They all have LAID OFF workers. Of course there are more. So, just what do you think would happen if the United States Government institutes SPENDING FREEZES. If you guessed layoffs, you’re 100% correct. In a financial downturn such as now, that’s exactly the WRONG approach to take. We need to do just the opposite, even if money does have to be borrowed. Spending creates jobs which creates revenue which will eventually get all of the above companies re-hiring in order to produce more for the increased demand. I grant you, the money that the government does spend needs to be spent responsibly with very good oversight. Rush Limbaugh is wrong, Sean Hannity is wrong, and John Boehner is wrong and also acting just as irresponsible as Limbaugh and Hannity. He is playing a political game and we can’t afford political games right now.

Posted by: devilkev | March 7, 2009, 12:02 am 12:02 am

Who can believe that the “borrow to buy” philosophy that got us into this mess will get us out? It won’t be a quick or asy recovery, no matter what. This is the time to re-learn a “save to buy” discipline, and the place to start is Washington. Keynesian economics is dead.

Posted by: Tom Beebe | March 7, 2009, 9:36 am 9:36 am

The only way Obama is a socialist is if you are an ignoramus.

Posted by: Jorge | March 7, 2009, 10:35 am 10:35 am

Good ..his reaction to higher unemployment numbers is….a spending freeze…republican response…Quit whining america…thats why god put dumpsters on this earth…go harvest your dinner…you people are a laugh a minute…you spent like drunken sailors when you had control, for all your rich friends and corps. who donated and kicked back to you…Now you want a spending freeze…too late…we have to get out of the mess-YOU got us in to.

Posted by: cowgirl | March 7, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am

The louder and more hysterical the political left gets in its defense of the man it elected, the more obvious it becomes that President Obama is not living up to expectations. You call republicans some pretty nasty names, but the facts are that 1.) democrats have controlled Congress, and spending, for the past 2+ years, 2.) republicans and some moderate democrats are trying to stop the wasteful spending, and 3.) President Obama is not honoring the promises he made during the election (no lobbyists, no earmarks, a new tone in Washington, blah, blah, blah.) Just words? Just speeches? Yes, sad but true.

Posted by: Jack | March 7, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am

It’s amazing that some foolish people still defend the Republican leadership. This are the same Republicans who deregulated the financial industry and rubber-stamped their complete failure of a president while he expanded the government and spent this country into deficits into the trillions. Guess what, people? YOUR WAY DIDN’T WORK. Let’s try something different. And if all you have is moronic partisan rhetoric, shut up and get out of the way.

Posted by: DaveM | March 7, 2009, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

You know, there was a time I think when every German had to have a portrait of Hitler in their house. I wonder if Republicans have to do the same with Rush Limphead? Most probably do anyway. It makes me sick to think about such twisted sickness lurking around.

Posted by: Demsrgreat | March 7, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Reactionaries, euphemistically called “conservatives” are in the midst of busily trying to blame this epic economic catastrophe the USA is in on Barack Obama and the new Democratic majority Congress. According to them, forget Ronald Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush and George Herbert Hoover Bush and the Heritage Foundation and the Club for Growth and Phil Gramm and Newt Gingrich and all the rest. The perpetually revisionist right-wingers would have you believe this is Obama’s downturn. Even though they are minority-in-number this assemblage of renegade morons who ruined this economy, i.e., they,the Republican right in alliance with big business and a fair number of blue-dog (feckless) Democrats — are all working in cahoots to oppose the interests of the American people, primarily working families — They have no credibility after the mess they’ve made. Nor do they have any new ideas of their own that will work ( still want more trickle down tax cuts that have don’t work for anyone but the already-haves) they have no ideas of their own to pull the country out of the toilet. Even though the naysayers have nothing remotely positive to offer, yet they still mount serious opposition to Democratic efforts to try something new and better things-needed reforms after 30 years of GOP inspired obstruction– As we have seen since the reign of George W. Bush, the leaders of the Republican party are un-American, and now, seditious buffoons. Yessiree Bob the likes of John B0NER, Mitch McConnelll and now, apparently the 800 lb prize hog of the County Fair, Flushbo Tush-Limbaugh are part of the right wing conspiratorial cast of seditious knuckle-walkers who are carrying out a pre-planned campaign financed by right wing oligarchic families like the Koch family to derail the attempts to dig the country out of this GOP-engineered economic meltdown caused by the GOP, not Democrats.
Right wing pea-brains still believe they are qualified to sit in carping judgment and unfairly blame a man who has barely been in office a month. The hyena-pack of the GOP and their Wall Street pirate allies, actually seem to believe the carefully crafted lies or their leadership, or else they just are either too stupid to think for themselves or maybe they even dishonestly refuse to admit the plain truth that they themselves are responsible for the current meltdown we see all around. . So: by any reasonable person’s way of thinking, this overblown noise machine of the GOP-right put forward by a vast assemblage of aggressive ignoramuses who should henceforth be known by the nickname: “the axis of weevils” or maybe “the axis of drivel”. Why not both?

Posted by: JL | March 7, 2009, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

The current leaders of the Republican party are seditious buffoons. The likes of John B0NER, Mitch McConnelll and now, apparently the 800 lb pig of the County Fair, Flushbo Limbaugh are part of this conspiratorial cast of knuckle-walkers who are engaging in a pre-planned campaign to derail the new President’s attempts to dig the country out of the GOP-made mess. that this entire party full of right wing clowns has been up to their eyeballs making for the last 30 years, but more specificalliy the last eight. The ‘in-denial’ truth-twisting GOP and its minority-in-number-army of morons still believe they are qualified to sit in carping judgment and unfairly blame a man who has barely been in office a month. The hyena-pack of GOP pirates and thieves actually believe their own lies or else they just dishonestly refuse to admit the plain truth that they themselves are responsible for the current meltdown we see all around us. It was they, not the Democrats who did this. So: by any reasonable person’s way of thinking, the vast assemblage of right wing peabrains should henceforth be known as “the axis of weevils” or maybe “the axis of drivel” or both.

Posted by: JL | March 7, 2009, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

Sweet. David Brooks called the idea of spending freeze “insane.” GOP = FAIL

Posted by: David Brooks | March 8, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

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